RYAN COOGLER TO DIRECT MARVEL'S 'BLACK PANTHER'

>>78906039
Agreed.

noice, great get and good to get confirmation

>It’s official, Marvelites: Ryan Coogler will step up to direct Marvel’s “Black Panther,” in theaters February 16, 2018!

>Chadwick Boseman will star in “Black Panther” after debuting as the character in the upcoming Marvel’s “Captain America: Civil War,” in theaters May 6.

>“We are fortunate to have such an esteemed filmmaker join the Marvel family,” said producer Kevin Feige. “The talents Ryan showcased in his first two films easily made him our top choice to direct ‘Black Panther.’ Many fans have waited a long time to see Black Panther in his own film, and with Ryan we know we’ve found the perfect director to bring T’Challa’s story to life.”

>Coogler wrote and directed his first award-winning feature film, “Fruitvale Station,” in 2013. Most recently he directed the critically-acclaimed “Creed,” which earned Sylvester Stallone a Golden Globe for Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture.

>Black Panther has been an important character in the Marvel universe for 50 years. He is the king of the technologically-advanced nation of Wakanda, and Panther has served as a member of the Avengers in addition to his many solo adventures.

>Coogler is represented by WME and Cohen Gardner LLP.

Kinda old news.

Good director, but going only for nlack directors was pretty racist.

>>78906039
Yeesh, after a dozen fake-outs, it's nice to finally get some confirmation, hope he teams up with the Creed/The Wrestler cinematography lady again.

Excellent.

>>78906039
Great choice. Legacy and throne carrying was handled perfectly in Creed. I don't think there's a better choice regardless of color for this movie.

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>>78906142
White director
>"That's rasist!"
>B-but...

Black director
>"That's racist"
>pic related

>>78906281
it's a white guy posting that

people cry racism when the other side gets points

Who will Michael B. Jordan and Sly Standalone gonna play?

>>78906281
As a black guy I agree with you.

>>78906410
As a black guy I disagree with you

>>78906281
Saying a white director is racist is just nonsense, though.

>>78906387
Sylvester Stallone will play Black Panther's white best friend side kick.

>>78906410
>>78906433
As a black guy. You're both right.

>>78906410
>>78906433
As a grey guy I have no strong opinion one way or the other.

>>78906466
No, Black Panther will have a blacker friend.

>>78906387
>Michael B. Jordan
Ulysses Klaw
>Sly Standalone
Erik Killmonger

>>78906281
>>78906465
I wasn't clear I guess. I meant when the movie comes out and shitheads try to stir up controversy about something.

>>78906522
Klaw is already Andy Circus.

>>78906522
Klaw was already cast in AoU. He's Andy Serkis.

>>78906514
Okay, Sylvester Stallone in blackface then.

>>78906142
wouldn't that be like saying Marvel only went after white directors for their other movies?

>>78906556
>Circus
MADAGASCAR FLASHBACKS

>>78906556
>>78906583
Then he is White Tiger

>>78906039
I can't be the only one whos a little apprehensive still. Marvel movies have had a few esteemed directors but they all end up with pretty similar Marvel house styles anyway. The closest one felt to being unique was a few scenes in Winter Soldier.

its most likely gonna be the same as ant-man and thor, decent summer blockbusters but pretty derivative towards the brand.

>>78906609
Did they not?

>>78906624
But he's not a tiger

>>78906609
Not really, it was a coincidence they were white, but they purposely looked for a black director for a "black movie"

>>78906662
Can't a white man play a white tiger?

>>78906626
Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man 3, Thor, and Captain America: FA all felt unique compared to the Marvel house style. Regardless of your opinion on the movies themselves.

Since they been blackening existing white characters, like Johnny Storm, Nick Fury, and so on, will they cast a honky for Black Panther to even things up? As a black man, that's the only fair, logical conclusion I can come up with for equality.

>>78906140
>Marvelites
????
Is this an actual thing? I thought Marvel fans were 'True Believers'

>>78906719
Pretended to be retarded doesn't make anyone believe the lie that you're black.

>>78906681
Was it? How do you know?
Maybe they avoided asking Antoine Fuqua to direct Captain America 2 because they thought it'd be too 'urban'.

>>78906734
I thought they were 'drones'

>>78906681
>Not really, it was a coincidence they were white

how do you know that for sure?

Its an assumption because white is the default. You assume it was talent based at that point. But then, they've been hiring literal whos either way.

Typically speaking, the only way minority writer/directors/etc get a shot is by directing things with minorities in them. Its a cycle. But until the black directors are considered for Iron Man, Cap, or Avengers, its kinda bullshit to complain about one getting hired for Black Panther.

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Come on, Coogler, you're better than capeshit.

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>>78906466
Can Stallone pull off playing Everett Ross?

Didn't we know this?

>>78906778
Safe to assume that, with most English-speaking directors being white, it was a coincidence.

>>78906734
They are Marvel Zombies, actually.

>>78906845
Not because white is the default, but because (due probably to racism) it's the overwhelming majority of the pool to choose from.

>>78906140
>“The talents Ryan showcased in his first two films easily made him our top choice to direct ‘Black Panther.

You mean third choice.

>>78906849
I do believe he can, yeah. I got faith in him.

>>78906142

Wouldn't the racism be that this is there only black director so far out of like, 12 films?

>Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa / Black Panther.
>Martin Freeman as Everett Ross.

Confirmed cast so far, Andy Serkis will also probably return as Klaw and Ernie Hudson was linked to the role of T'Chaka.

What other characters might be in it?

>>78906870
Only rumours and implied statements. This is official.

>>78906847
>better than
I don't get this argument. A truly good director can make great things while constrained. It's a whole thing in other forms of art. It can be done, even if you thing it hasn't been done before.

>>78906917
It's funny how blatantly they can lie about that.

>>78906961
Name 10 black directors without using Google.

>>78906845
>>78906778
Coincidence was a poor choice of words. More so like others have said it's a larger talent pool to pick from, but choosing a black director for your one black superhero movie after so many white superhero movies.is kind of shitty.

It's like when people say only black writers should work on the books with black characters.

>>78906964
They'll have to cast T'Chakka, and probably some of those skinny women from the AoU trailers. Maybe another Villain besides Klaw. Maybe Bucky appears as well, if he's related to the Panther assassination like it's been talked about.

DC on suicide watch.

>>78906039

WHAT GIANTS DO!

>>78907235
Those were false rumors. Bucky is linked to an attack on the UN, if more recent reports are to be believed.

>>78907655
It's a lot harder to take him seriously with that big-ass head. It looks goofy.

>>78907674
Okay, but Panther clearly has something against him, and it's not like both things are mutually exclusive.

>>78906477
kek

>>78907454
lmfao ok

>>78907708
Yes. The attack on the UN. You know, where T'Challa would have been. Maybe somebody gets hurt.

Now they can continue to have white men direct their other movies because they got a black guy directing the Black Panther token movie.

I am half kidding, but they made such a big fucking deal about getting a black director for this one as if there was some implication it excused them for hiring one for some other movie.

Plus a buncha the directors they asked just didn't seem like ones that would be interested in a cape franchise. So that was just a waste.

Hell, this almost seems like a waste, but he seems up for doing such a big franchise so good for him.

Sick of seeing this shit in films and comics. If you have a white male character you can still have a black or female for writer or artist or director.

>>78907454
lolno

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>>78906140
>“The talents Ryan showcased in his first two films easily made him our top choice to direct ‘Black Panther.’
>our top choice to direct Black Panther

>>78906917

Well if you can't choose your first two choices they aren't really choices, are they?

>>78907885
I guess it makes sense.

>>78907901
You know what? I agree.

He's a fantastic director especially for his age, so why is he being limited to BP? Why not Thor 3, r Cap 3, or even the Inhumans?

>>78906140
>The talents Ryan showcased in his first two films easily made him our top choice to direct ‘Black Panther.’

But what about the other directors before him that declined?

>>78907454

I'm shocked Marvel snatched him from them.

Marvel has some real power in Hollywood.

>>78907956
>Cap 3
Nigga the movie is coming out in four months. They weren't even looking at Coogler until Creed, and you know it.

Now if they really like what he does with BP, they MAY get him for Inhumans, but that's still to be determined.

>>78907994
>I'm shocked Marvel snatched him from them.

From whom? Coogler did one film for WB.

Coogler is too good a director to have his career derailed by the inevitable trainwreck this movie wil be.

Who will Wallace from The Wire play?

>>78907991
You do know they never interview these things in order, necessarily. Just because they looked around doesn't mean that they didn't have a favorite that probably wasn't available because he was thinking of doing creed. Also, even though he is the best choice now, he wasn't when they started looking for people, since he hadn't released Creed. Although yeah, he wasn't their first choice, but they didn't need to scrape the barrel or anything, and it's probably the best choice, black OR white to do it.

>>78907994
They have a pretty good run of not terrible movies that are well received critically, despite what 4chan thinks of them. It's also a guaranteed jump up in a career of a young director if they don't fuck it up during or straight after.

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>>78906039
I wonder how much it costs for one's pride?

>>78908077
Fuck, now I'm imaging John Stewart fans on CBR making a big fuss about not getting this guy to do a Green Lantern film starring John.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVq5mRBfnmk

oh nice, Disney now has their uncle tom to boss around.

>>78908861
The only good thing Hudlin made BP related

>>78906039
>meow

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>>78908931
Rarrrrr

>>78909260
>Getting strooong noooow
>Gonna flyyy noooow

>>78908328
Russos said they made more money on Community than they have directing TWS. Being a TV director for Disney is just being a gloried overseer. You're just making sure milestones get reached at certain dates.

I imagine he'll drop out over creative differences in a couple months.

So Feige has managed to replace
>Bendis
>Quesada
>Perlmutter
>Alan Fine
>Buckley
for
>Russos
>Gunn
>Waititi
>Coogler
>Derrickson
>Reed
Bonus of getting rid of Whedon as well. And people complained...

>>78909492
That's probably before extending the contract to IW.

>>78909506
The movie is in two years, so it'll take one year for that to happen if it does.

>>78909587
Only person missing is the director for Cap Marvel. Wasn't Michelle Maclaren being looked at? Or am I thining of Wonder Woman?

>yfw Carol has her own pet tiger
>yfw when the tiger is actually the best part of the movie and Bendis butchers it by putting it in every comics and missing the point of what makes it cool and spamming memes.
>yfw when the tiger is a Guardian of the Galaxy and wears a banana costume

>>78909690
A gossip rag said Jolie but it was almost certainly BS

They're probably debating whether to assemble a dumptruck of cash for Bigelow

>>78909770
No way they cast Jolie. It's the opposite of their MO of backing young-ish unknown directors with heavy comic-book background (for the most part)

>>78909690
>yfw when

>>78909770
>Jolie

After the Sony leaks and By the Sea, she'll be lucky if she still has a career.

Bigelow would never do a superhero movie.

>>78906609
>>78906681
>>78906281
>>78906472
>>78906410
>>78906845

F. Gary Grey was originally going to direct Captian America before he gave commitment to the NWA biopic

Silly /co/mblr

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>>78908861
I really want both that theme song and the floating panther head throne to make it to the movie.

>>78906039

>tfw you know the director's nephew

I dunno how I didn't put two and two together. Shoulda stayed in contact with him. He worked on the Creed OST

>>78909587
>>Russos
>>Gunn
>>Waititi
>>Coogler
>>Derrickson
>>Reed


If they get Kathryn Bigelow for Captain Marvel phase 3 is literally perfect. Godtier.

>>78909838
The movie is only in 2019, they can wait this whole year for someone to make a female Creed.

>>78909587
I wonder what /co/,/tv/ and /pol/'s reaction would be if Marvel actually went full madman and hire Mel Gibson for an Iron Man 4.
>have 300million
>go nuts
If there's something disney is anti-semitism anyway.

>>78908861
I wish, but I imagine the soundtrack is going to be something along these lines https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEL0cic2_dw

>>78909919
Oh shit, I never knew that Kathryn Bigelow directed both the hurt locker and zero dark trinity.
Looks like a bit higher profile than even coogler, so I don't see it happening, but you're right, it would be GOAT.

Reed and Derrickson are the only ones there I'm still not entirely convinced, although reed did do a pretty good job on ant-man.

>>78909873
MEOW

>>78909838
>>After the Sony leaks

I still feel bad for Rooney Mara desu

>>78910037
What happened to her?

>Mahvel hiring a black cuck director

Of course, pussy whipped yes men are Disney's forte

https://archive.is/hqa08

>>78909260
why is he suppose to be a panther but looks like a cat lol

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>>78906039
Why can't Marvel put as much effort into their comics as they do their movies?

>>78910090
Because the movies are making fat bank and the comics are only making fat wank.

>>78910090
One makes money the other does not, i hate it too but its the way it goes

>>78910055
She wanted to do sequels to Fincher's Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, but the studio wasn't interested. The leaks had these kind of pitiful emails she sent to Amy Pascal where she was basically begging to at least have a meeting discussing the possibility of sequels, but Pascal kept dodging her and making excuses to avoid talking to her.

Shame, because she has all the talent her sister doesn't.

>>78910090
Return on Investment.

>>78906039
i really want to get hyped for this shit but i am sure it will be "We Wuz Kings and shiet and white man are evil" and it kind of breaks my heart

>>78910163
He's not actually a member of the black panthers, you know.

>>78909260

Does Black Panther running get anyone else ridiculously hype?

>>78910163
smfh

>>78910163
>We Wuz Kings and shiet and white man are evil

Nigga please. Knowing Marvel, they will just do the fucking Lion King with people

>>78910135
Aw, well now that is just too bad really. I feel bad for her now also.

>>78910251
That would be good actually

>>78909690
I remember that Olivia Wilde and some director both said they would actually like doing Captain Marvel, they were just waiting for Marvel. Given how hard ATJ lobbied for Quicksilver, I imagine that Wilde can get Carol.

>>78910163
>whitey mad that a movie will finally show us with the space technology and mind powers we had before Europeans took it all away

>>78910251
How's that a bad thing? Michael Cera and Jonah Hill for Timon and Pumbaa.

>>78910311
Jesus, I think Olivia Wilde is hot as hell, but she ain't no Carol. 5 years ago I would've loved a Jessica Chastain doing it, but she'll be too old to do a potential trilogy starting in 3 years.

>>78910311
He lobbied for the part, just to die in the fucking movie.

top kek

>>78910340
I'm black and not even from Africa. Why you niggas holding out on that shit from the rest of us, eh?

>>78910304
Of course it would, lion king kicked ass.

>>78910349
I'd rather a long-haired Emily Blunt, but I won't complain about blonde Olivia Wilde.

>>78910381
If you're not from Africa, you're colluding with the enemy, you Negropean.

>>78910352
Lets be honest, we all know he will be back in Infinity War due to Gauntlet shenanigans.

Same with Cap

>>78910403
Jamaican, actually but I can see your point, brother.

>>78910381
>the rest of us
You had your chance to return to the mother land, and you chose your captors even after you were freed so you don't get dick for space age technology. Maybe you can have my old fleshlight, I'll see if it still works.

>>78910398
Emily Blunt is in the same problem as Jessica Chastain as in she'll be a bit old to make a trilogy if they so choose.

I honestly hope Marvel pulls a Chris [Evans|Hemsworth|Pratt] and picks out someone perfect out of fucking nowhere. Heck, maybe even some Daisy Ridley 2.0 that no-one knows about or has even heard anything about.

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>>78909690

the only right choice

>>78910460
>Jamaican
>still living anywhere near the AmeriKKKas

shaking my damn head to be honest

>>78910487
Literally worst pick

>>78910487
Can she even act?

>>78910487
>terrible actor
>hype train derailed when she got her shit kicked in

no thanks

>>78910487
Jesus Christ man, I know we are all misogynists who would rather have a good male director than a shoe-in female one, but you can't do that for the main character.

It will be interesting to see how poorly this film will do in China compared to the other Marvel films. I wonder if Disney can somehow push Donnie Yen in there somewhere.

>>78906465
Yeah, it's only racist when black people are directors.

>>78910543
i haven't heard much about her since that fight, she still talking shit that her ass can't cash again?

>>78910482
Yeah, age is starting to become a problem. It's one of the reasons I'm glad they're actually doing high school Pete, since everyone else in the MCU is going to be pushing 50 if not 40. Save for a few exceptions that is.

Hemsworth is good in the role, but that's only when he's allowed to actually be Thor. Otherwise, he's worthless. Pratt and Evans are fucking fantastic, though.

>>78910487
Why the fuck would you want that

>>78910566
>TFA drops 65% in China after one day

I don't know whether that's because China doesn't have the kind of nostalgia for Star Wars that America does or whether they just hate black people

>>78910487
Go Holm, Ronda, you're drunk

>getting an african-american to direct an african superhero

are there no real african directors? this is like getting an american to direct a james bond movie...

>>78910579
What's racist is that Black Panther is from Africa and people are thinking African and American black are the same thing.

>>78910648
The original Star Wars never played in China. I do find it hilarious how Disney's heavy marketing of Star Wars in China failed

>>78906847

he did a rocky spin off. no he isnt

>>78910304
Considering the Lion King is basically Hamlet with animals, sure.

>>78910648
>Go Holm, Ronda, you're drunk

You try getting your head kicked by someone who wasn't a soccer mom trying to lose weight and see how well you think.

>>78910786
I could go for some honey glazed hamlet

>>78910686
The story of Black Panther is one of legacy and throne carrying. After Creed, Ryan Coogler could be fucking purple and still be the best choice for the chair.

>>78910699
>implying you can have any /tv/ thread without it sinking to a sea of cuckposting.

That board is more gay for black cock than /lbgt/

>>78910251
You mean Macbeth?

>this is how stupid the target audience for a Marvel movie is

>>78910711
B-But this music video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK1V14s66a0&feature=youtu.be

>>78909919
>Russo bros
>Gunn
>Reed
>Derrickson
All garbage yesmen

>Waititi
Not suitable for Thor

>>78910877
The Lion King is Hamlet, not Macbeth.

>this is how stupid shitposters are

>>78910877
Nigga it's Hamlet

>>78910890
They played the trailer on the great wall of china kek

>>78910877
You mean Hamlet you dumb fucking faggot. Kill yourself

>>78910925
Heh, maybe that offended them.

>>78906847
Don't kid yourself, Rocky is just as formulaic and episodic as capeshit, what matters here is the delivery. Might not be as constricting studio and executive meddling-wise but it was still a legacy character that was on his hands. It's the same premise.

>you're better than
Better than a safe paycheck? He's got what, 2 movies under his belt and now his name is in the spot light, who in their right minds would refuse this in his position.

>>78910693
Exactly. That's why american movie directors should remain whites only.

>>78910968
>rocky is formulaic
That's the fucking point of it though.

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>>78910877
>calls audience stupid while citing the wrong Shakespearean work

>>78906847
>better than capeshit

Fox, Sony, or WB sure.

But Marvel's a whole other category right now. They're the hotttest thing going in Hollywood.

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>>78910487
Charlize Theron... I can not unsee it

>>78911010
I don't follow the logic, but I'm not arguing either

>>78910968
The difference is that Creed was a passion project for Coogler. The Rocky movies had a big impact on his life. Doing an MCU movie is just a check and an something to put on your resume because they cannot fail.

>>78911025
I don't think you know what "the point of it" means.

>>78910877
>Guy shitting on the movie
>"The marvel audience"

Real general marvel hate on /co/ is pretty much unbearable. I only discuss dc here now to avoid the blind rage.

>>78911050
>this delusion

Star Wars has already dwarfed the MCU. Literally everyone wants to be apart of it.

>>78910890
>>78910711
>>78910925
>>78910951
I don't get it, Sony's emails more than implied that black stars are box office poison on a international scale, so why did they bother?

>>78911100
>I only discuss dc here now to avoid the blind rage.

wut

DC threads are the epitome of blind rage. There's a reason there's been MoS shitposting for 3 years now.

>>78910634
Yeah Peter Parker is being propped up to be the ticket seller after Tony for the Avengers movies, so it'smart that they don't get a 30 y.o.

MCU thor has tons of problems but casting wasn't it. He's just never had a good enough writer or director. Branagh obviously came the closest.

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>>78910877
>You mean Macbeth?

Seriously? Really? You tried to fire shit at me and couldn't even get it right. It's HAMLET not Macbeth. Get outta here with your stupid ass.

>>78911159
Breh, Hemsworth is fucking awful. Not even Ron Howard could get a decent performance out of him.

>>78911159
>MCU thor has tons of problems but casting wasn't it.

Hemsworth is terrible as Thor, he has no personality, he can't act for shit.

>>78911147
Welp, 164 comments. It was a fun thread, everyone.

>>78911111
Heh, Sony isn't the authority on anything. Heck, if they knew what they were doing they wouldn't be where they are.

>>78911262
>>78911212
Fine, maybe I don't know enough about Thor, then. He seemed pretty spot on in his naivité and in stuff like the lake scene in AoU. I just don't think he's been directed by someone who gets through his thick skull. He's missing righteousness and willpower for sure, though. He always seems to be pushed around.

>>78911212
Rush was alright.

>>78911349
The movie was, not Hemsworth.

>>78911050
Fox = WB > Marvel > Sony.

It's the truth, take it or leave it, faggots.

>>78911349
No thanks to Hemsworth, Bruhl was acting circles around him.

>>78911321
>Heh, Sony isn't the authority on anything. Heck, if they knew what they were doing they wouldn't be where they are.

Fair enough, but what they said in those emails were no different than how other distributors play, only difference is Sony was dumb enough to get caught saying that shit while at the same time pissing off a country with nothing but time to hack your shit.

>>78911212
He was decent in Rush, that movie had perfect casting. Also you're acting like Ron Howard is anything but a competent director, I don't get the praise in your post. He's remarkably bland if anything.

Regarding Hemsworth, he's not amazing by any means but he has some presence and comedic timing, he was good in the first Thor movie and could do better. Thing is no single movie in the MCU has had a decent Thor script so he'll never be what you want him to be in the big screen - you know, space viking god hammer wielding conan the barbarian. They can't fucking write him at all.

>>78911479
He has no presence as Thor, there is a reason they have to bring Loki back each time.

The only thing Hemsworth can do is shout his lines to show how strong he is, I've seen better acting from school children.

>>78906707
I love that we're ignoring that White Tiger is Hispanic...

>>78906039
Don't know if this has been said, but he looks like a mother fucker power ranger.

>>78911619
Sadly no one gives a fuck about Hispanics

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>>78911423
>>78911109

Wrong faggot

Marvel>Fox>wb

Sony is now Marvels bitch.

>>78911689
Yet they loved Michael Pena in Ant-Man, the only Hispanic person in the MCU so far. Though I give it to the guy for not only inventing how his character was, he based it on a real person.

I'd like White Tiger to pop up somewhere. Maybe Netflix so Hector Ayala can be an inspiration to the eventual handover to Ava.

>>78906472
>>78906477
>>78906410
As a black guy i hate all of you.

Coogler's good though, i hope he reads Priest's run for inspiration

>>78911764
>MCU
>21 movies

Nice reliable source you got there.

>>78906847
I really need to start hitting the gym

>>78911764
But Harry Potter is WB, so Fox doesn't even appear on the list

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>>78911833

Numbers are accurate. Don't know why they list the numbers of movies the way they do.

Anyway here is the update.

>>78911855

Thought we were going by strictly cbm's.

>>78906964
>Martin Freeman as Everett Ross.
Not confirmed.

>>78911882

If you added Pixar in there Disney would have 1,2,3.

It's over folks.

>>78906847
Your dumb post aside, I'm glad MBJ had something good after 4%

>>78911833
>>21 movies
>>78911882
>Don't know why they list the numbers of movies the way they do.

I think it's the number of announced films.

>>78911554
I genuinely liked him in the first Thor movie, even if he was overshadowed. Next to Hiddleston, everyone looks like a toddler. But you have to admit that no one in production simply gives a fuck about Thor enough to put some fucking effort in it.

I mean, RDJ isn't the most compelling actor around and he barely breaks a sweat doing his MCU Tony persona, but thanks to him no one noticed how crap the last two iron man movies were. Evans is a naturally quiet guy and he can't bring to the screen the commanding presence that Cap's supposed to have, but his movies have a good support cast with strong enough scripts and directors that we don't seems to mind. The Thor movies get no love in any department.

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>>78911811
Why bother when there's Hudlin's run?

>>78911913
Even then, how would Fox be ahead of WB? After inflation, the 1978 Superman movie alone likely made more than any two Fox CBM's put together. Then there's two Batman movies that made over a billion dollars.

Marvel is pulling in a ridiculous amount of talent for phase 3.

>>78912038
>Evans is a naturally quiet guy and he can't bring to the screen the commanding presence that Cap's supposed to have
He also makes up for it with his charisma. He'll say something and you'll just want to rally behind him because he's Cap. We may get Commando Cap in CW, but probably not. Evans may surprise us.

I'm glad someone actually said that RDJ is fantastic as Tony, though. A lot of the posts around here are focused on how the MCU is focused around him, but not actually noting that he's nailing it. I'm pissed they didn't go through with Demon in a Bottle

>>78912041
What's supposed to be wrong here? The fact that Black Panther beat a white man?

And isn't this referencing an old comic not written by Hudlin?

>>78912414
It's a retcon. In the original comic, they fought to a standstill.

>>78912414
The fact that Cap was jobbed out to a character that's not even T'Challa literally just so Hudlin could say "These Wakandans ain't no joke"

>>78912303
It does seem like Marvel really wants Phase 3 to kick it off in a major way. The only film that has me worried is Thor 3.

>>78907045

Name 137 white directors without using google.

>>78909587
He also lost Wright and Favreau.

>>78912540

After seeing 'What we do in the Shadows' and with Cate Blanchett joining, Thor 3 might be one of my most anticipated.

>>78912487
That's not even T'Challa? What the fuck.

>>78912481
My bad.
And I was kind of shitposting.
How the hell was T'Challa even able to go toe to toe with Cap?
Does being Black Panther give you super strength?

>>78912616
>Does being Black Panther give you super strength?
Yes, you're essentially a magic super-soldier with Wolverine super senses and Spider-Man agility.

>>78912616
It's his dad. How would T'Challa be around with WW2 era Cap?

>>78912375
Ehhh it wasn't an exact praise in the way you put it. I mean I saw Chaplin, the guy can act if required - he just doesn't have to in the MCU. He's found his nice and it fits him so well that it's barely work to him now and it overshadows everything else in production. I don't think he's the "perfect" Tony - like you said Demon in a Bottle needed to be adapted and they exaggerate with the Stark-centric stuff and quips - but it can't be denied that he's one of the biggest reasons for the general success of the brand. For all intents and purposes, he'll be the definitive take on the character now forever.

I mean it could be worse. We could've been stuck with Tom Cruise.

>>78912414
>What's supposed to be wrong here? The fact that Black Panther beat a white man?

You got it!

>>78912609
Watch 'Boy' by Waitit. It's a beautiful little movie. He really nails optimistic naivité and childish rage in that. Also a couple Hulk references. Waititi is the fucking man.

>>78912608
Those were problems with the committee, but yeah, terrible losses for sure.

>>78912303
>>78912540
See, this is why having DC trying to step up their game as a competition works. It's probably too late in the for DC to have any meaningful impact in pop culture with their movies (justice league is inevitably going to be compared with the Avengers as a concept, which sucks for them), but both companies will keep eachother on check which will result in good shit from both sides, hopefully.

>>78912721
That's kind of interesting. And the Black Panther is kind of like the protector of Wakanda, right? I'm assuming it's like Iron Fist where multiple people take the mantle and inherit the powers/responsibility.
You're telling me Wakanda is technologically advanced as fuck, but also has ancient cat god magic?
And doesn't the Black Panther also being the king a little too much? I imagine he'd be out of country a lot.
And while the concept of a magical protector is interesting, it's kind of stale too because you need to stay in Wakanda.

>>78906039
BP is now my most anticipated MCU flick. Coogler will do a great movie, just hope that Mahvel doesn't restrict him too much.

>>78912609
It was a good comedy, nothing else. Say what you will about Brannagh, but at least he got close in tone with the first try. They'll never get it right. And Cate's too old for Enchantress, are they going to have her just play a basterdized version of Galadriel? On top of it all, there's still Hulk in the mix for some fucking reason. Yay. Hype.

>>78906039
>lol let's get a black man to direct amovie about a black man, but if we put a white man to direct a movie a bout a white man we're racists

>>78912982
>lol let's get a white man to direct amovie about a white man, but if we put a black man to direct a movie a bout a black man we're racists
Oh wait

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>>78906039
>marvel goes out of their way to get a black director for a black movie
>white people still don't understand why that's still racist

It's a diversity hire and a long drawn out and forced one at that. It's like Marvel wanted to say "hey I got a black friend!" You think black people want to be given jobs just because they're black? No. They'll still take the job (some actually might not on principle) but they know the main reason why.

>>78912945
>And the Black Panther is kind of like the protector of Wakanda, right? I'm assuming it's like Iron Fist where multiple people take the mantle and inherit the powers/responsibility.
Yeah, it's exactly like Iron Fist actually. It's a ritualized title that you're either meant for or you're not, so the lineage isn't exactly linear. Might go cousin to cousin instead of father to son.
>You're telling me Wakanda is technologically advanced as fuck, but also has ancient cat god magic?
Yup.
>And doesn't the Black Panther also being the king a little too much? I imagine he'd be out of country a lot.
Wakanda was mostly isolationist, they didn't really fuck with other countries besides maybe sending aide to a neighboring one and the odd absorption of other tribes into theirs. They might send out an odd ambassador or two to protect their interests, but no Panthers really traveled when they became Panthers until T'Challa. And that was mostly because with the dawn of the heroic age people like the Avengers needed to be kept tabs on.
>And while the concept of a magical protector is interesting, it's kind of stale too because you need to stay in Wakanda.
BP's been retconned too many times to know what direction they're going with the movie, but Wakanda itself is interesting enough for an entire movie to be set there easily.

>>78912982
lol, why don't you fuck off back to your containment board.

>>78913086
If you're Coogler, you take this gig because if you nail it, your next movie gets to be basically anything you want it to be. Do another Fruitvale sized movie, go do another blockbuster IP or possibly even start your own, go do Creed 2, whatever. And that has to be damn enticing.

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>>78912982
>but if we put a white man to direct a movie a bout a white man we're racists
But they've done this 12 times, I don't know what the point here is.

>>78913250
this. It's basically buying a mario star.

>>78911764
I was talking about quality, actually. Fuck your fucking box office, I'm not getting a cut of that cash anyway, so until I become a Disney executive and they start cutting me some checks from their super hero movies quite frankly I don't care about how much those greedy motherfuckers make off Marvel and Star Wars.

I want Tumblr and /pol/ to leave.

>>78913194
>Might go cousin to cousin instead of father to son.
Oh, that's cool.
> but Wakanda itself is interesting enough for an entire movie to be set there easily.
Is it really? Maybe I just haven't seen the right pictures, but it always looks so boring, visually at least.
>And that was mostly because with the dawn of the heroic age people like the Avengers needed to be kept tabs on.
Then what the fuck happens in Black Panther comics? Is it just politics and black family drama?

And Fiege said that the movie was going to be geo-political action adventure that ties directly into Infinity War.

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>>78913280
>I was talking about quality,

>>78913293
As far as the BP movie goes, there's at least two options for connecting it to IW.

a) Its about using wakanda technology to take the avengers into space

b)the soul gem is in wakanda (hence the soul-ish powers of BP's line) and indirectly bringing all the other gems closer towards it.

>>78913293
>Then what the fuck happens in Black Panther comics? Is it just politics and black family drama?
That's actually literally what most of Priest's run, the most celebrated BP run, consists of.

>>78913320
You left out The Dark Knight trilogy and X 2 and DOFP.

>>78913293
>And Fiege said that the movie was going to be geo-political action adventure that ties directly into Infinity War.


I just hope it doesn't end up essentially being a commercial for Infinity War, but Marvel Studios isn't known for giving directors too much creative freedom.

>>78911050
>>78913320
>>78911764

I really hope that Marvel/Disney is paying you because defending something on an anonymous image board so fervently for free is just sad.

>>78906039
well at least he isnt going to be preachy about black rights right?
thats something that worried me about the 1st choice

also why did HE have to be black, that's kinda fucking retarded it should be talent not skin

>>78913430

desu posting on this site in general is pretty sad

>>78913430
>>78913390
>>78913320
>>78913280
>>and so on
shut the fuck up with console wars and take it to /tv/ or reddit.

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>DC hires Asian director for Aquaman
>Marvel has to go after exclusively black directors for their flagship African superhero

Coogler's a good director and all but something's fishy going on at Marvel.

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>>78913474
they're just trying to win brownie points, DC isnt tho DC still has yet to show me what they can do after the DISASTER of Man of Steel

>>78913465
>also why did HE have to be black, that's kinda fucking retarded it should be talent not skin

Well then i guess it's good that Coogler is a very talented director then ain't it. Seems like You're the one going nuts about "skin color" , anon

>>78913382
I'd be quick to say that sounds like shit, but I should probably read it and form my own opinion.

I've just seen so many shitty black dramas.

>>78911764
Where do I apply to shill for Disney on anonymous image boards because I want some of that money.

>>78913474
>>78913512
Skin color means a lot to you people doesn't it. I mean you just can't stop bringing it up.

>>78913537
nice projecting there anon, never even said his skin was a problem, i said the problem was they EXCLUSIVELY were looking for black directors and that there 1st choice just smelled of sjw race issues

>>78913579
tumblr pls, we aint dissing his skin we're dissing that they only wanted black people im happy they got a good choice im not happy that marvel's checklist had "make sure he's black" on it

>>78907045
Tha lady that did the MLK film
Spike Lee
Coogler
12 years a slave guy
Tim Story
The madea guy

Best I could do :/

>>78910891
>Russo bros
>Gunn
>Reed
All their movies were good tho

Seriously you'd think people would be discussing how potentially cool the fight scenes will be based on how well shot /choreographed they were for Creed. Instead you have faggots constantly bringing up race and one even mentioning affirmative action because "reasons".
Asspained little faggots the lot of you .

>>78913472
Fuck you faggot, we're gonna fight it out on here.

>>78913579
Not really, but when a studio only want's a black director to pull of there black hero then well that's problematic

im happy it's a good choice you caboona baboona boo

>>78913285
Saying a black character needs a black director is racist.

Tumblr would argue the opposite, and /pol/ would argue against black directors altogether.

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>>78913728
yeah i'm sorry that i'm not happy with Marvel's practice of hiring skin color over talent

the choice is good sure, but do you really think Marvel didn't try to pull that off

>>78913728
Fuck Black Batman, I want a Creed sequel.

>>78913554
Why is it a 'black drama'? It's just a story with black people in it, my nigga.

For the record I don't like Priest's BP that much, but there's not much better.

>>78913611
So what's your argument? It's racist because it's cognizant of race? Because last I checked there's a bit more to bigotry than that.

>>78913807
>So what's your argument? It's racist because it's cognizant of race? Because last I checked there's a bit more to bigotry than that.
what, it's not racist it's just cowardly and stupid that instead of going through a list of directors they went through a list of only BLACK directors

it's not something i want in my capeshit, I want talent over skin

>>78913807
>So what's your argument? It's racist because it's cognizant of race?
Assuming that a director would be a better fit for a character purely based on their skin color (BP is African royalty, and has nothing in common with African-Americans) is objectively racist.

>>78913807
Well, I don't know if it's a black drama, I haven't read it.
It's just a lot of times black creators get so far up their ass in the fact that they're black that the only create things with black people about black people.
I'm not sure how to explain it exactly, just look at Tyler Perry and Spike Lee. Or any movie starring black people from the early 2000's.

>>78906477
You God Damned Neutrals!

>>78906039
What Marvel should've done was get Coogler for Captain Marvel and a woman for BP; then they could cast directors however they want afterwards.

>>78913918
Now that truly would have been fucking daring, Anon.

So of course they would not do that shit.

>>78913801
My nigga.

Finally, someone in here who has his priorities in order.

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Wakanda mines.

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>>78914137
>>78914151
this from Civah Wahr or Age of Quiptron

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>yfw Emily Blunt is cast to play Captain Marvel

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>>78910487

>>78913713
Nope.

TWS was a Bourne film, Ant-Man is still Wrights movie with a generic style of execution, and GOTG is stupid shit that rides on it's soundtrack for any relevence.

>>78907045
I don't think I can name 10 white directors.
I give zero fucks about famous faggots.

>>78913863
>what, it's not racist it's just cowardly and stupid that instead of going through a list of directors they went through a list of only BLACK directors
I'm still not seeing the functional problem with limiting the scope of talent. I think you're confusing the message being sent as 'only a black person could do this' with 'we're going to make an effort to have a black person do this'. What WOULD be a problem to me is if this is the only movie in the MCU with a black director.
Also knowing what I know about black people and the way black people are viewed globally (looking at you East Asia) it's very important that blacks in America don't actively boycott this movie because it's not going to make much internationally.
>I want talent over skin
That's understandable, but that's not the world we live in, and sadly never has been. Literally never.

>>78913891
>Assuming that a director would be a better fit for a character purely based on their skin color (BP is African royalty, and has nothing in common with African-Americans) is objectively racist.

That's some SJW-tier flexibility in the definition of racism.
Again, being cognizant of race isn't racism. Racial blindness is no one's ideal.
Also Wakanda is a fictional country with a fictional culture, black isn't a fictional race. So it stands to reason there's more importance of perspective on that which actually has real world ramifications.
>Ryan Coogler: Yeah, I think it’s important. Perspective is so important in art. It’s an important thing. That’s not to say that you can’t work outside yourself. When I was coming up, I made movies about things that were close to me; I made movies about things that weren’t close to me. But I definitely think that it helps when you are close to a subject. Like, I was an athlete for most of my life before I was a filmmaker. And that helped to inform me when writing this script, when directing. Having had those types of experiences helped me inform this process.

>>78914330
I'm more excited for the new Bourne movie than Civil Skirmish. At least Paul Greengrass is a good director.

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>>78913285
You're better off just leaving /co/

>>78910222
yes, looks sick t b h

cap is probably just playin and will outrun him

They should've gotten Michael Mann to direct it had it be an African action thriller.

Hell yes, this just became one of my most anticipated MCU movies. Coogler is a rising star -- young, smart, ambitious, talented -- he's got a lot to prove, and now he's got a Marvel budget as well as a super fucking talented lead, a super talented writer on the script, and Coogler's a good co-writer himself in addition to being a damn fine director. This has the potential to be amazing.

Also, lmao at ya'll who think Hollywood is even close to an actual meritocracy. Dream on. Marvel looking specifically for black directors would be racist if all hiring was on an equal opportunity basis, but the industry is so fucked in that regard that it launched a federal investigation for discriminatory hiring practices. In 2015. Folks talk about "liberal media" but it's actually one of the most regressive industries in existence. Coogler is too good for you, but despite everything you got him on your side. You're welcome.

>>78915324
>it launched a federal investigation for discriminatory hiring practices

Which is entirely for show. Absolutely nothing will come of it; anyone with enough clout can get an EEOC investigation launched. You'll notice no court cases have been filed and the whole investigation has largely just been female directors going to interviews with the EEOC and complaining that the studios are ignoring the investigation and refusing to comment even though no one in their right mind is going to comment on an investigation they are the subject of.

I'm saying this because you seem to think it's impressive that a federal investigation was launched.

>>78915432
>Which is entirely for show. Absolutely nothing will come of it
Agreed, which is why it's so dismal. The endemic disease has been brought to light and little will come of it. I work in science/bio industry, which is seen as way less liberal, yet we have way more parity than the entertainment studio systems.

There's a current fed investigation on how BAD the Hollywood system is, yet it will be ignored by the system, and it will be ignored by the fans, who seem to think everyone who deserves it will get the same shot at being hired onto a major project (NOPE).

>>78915647
Not the anon you were talking to but two wrongs do not make a right. I say this as a man of color, this doesn't and shouldn't change anything to the point I am trying to make, however.

>>78915647
>I work in science/bio industry, which is seen as way less liberal, yet we have way more parity than the entertainment studio systems.

STEM industries prioritize actual skill and ability, the entertainment industry doesn't. That's what people never consider: there are other factors at work, like foreign funding and audiences and the choices directors make. If you read that NYT piece or any of the accompanying Variety/THR pieces about Women in Hollywood, a whole bunch of female directors just refused to even think about doing fantasy/sci-fi genre fare or action movies because they consider it beneath them. They want the studios to give them Oscar-level dramas and romances only. Studios want to make money, and the genre stuff and action movies do well globally compared to dramas.

And when you're marketing a big movie overseas, your talent really doesn't matter. No one is going to claim Daniel Day-Lewis brings in huge audiences even though he's probably the best actor in the world right now. Intangible factors like global awareness and popularity are more important than skill for both actors and directors when it comes to deciding who should front and star in a film. Intangible factors don't matter much in science industries. Why would they?

Again, you seem to think it's impressive a federal investigation was launched. It would be impressive if anyone actually got dragged to court over it, but no one will. At best they'll release some findings which some blogs will interpret as a "stinging rebuke", and then two months later everyone will forget about it. It's little more than a pressure tactic.

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>>78907956
>He's a fantastic director especially for his age, so why is he being limited to BP? Why not Thor 3, r Cap 3, or even the Inhumans?

Sheeeeeet, if I were given the choice between all of those, I would choose to direct The Black Panther.

Regardless, I say good for him. Now, we have the director. Can we give him a script which isn't some god awful live-action version of The Lion King story?

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>>78911811
>As a black guy i hate all of you.
As an Nigerian/Aboriginal you all suck.

>>78916286
I don't think it's you, mate.

>>78913250

It's still a little insulting but yes. Still racist.

>>78907045
Ryan Coogler
Steve McQueen
Spike Lee
Tyler Perry
F. Gary Gray
Jon Singleton
Lee Daniels
Ava DuVernay
Quentin Tarantino
..

Yeah, more difficult then I thought.

>>78915195
who is that?