How's Your Webcomic? #230

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed) (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
John Cleese on Creativity [YouTube] John Cleese on Creativity (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>(NEW!) Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

IT'S DOING OKAY.

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inb4 autistics complain about the op

>>78891674
Sorry, why shouldn't we?

Stop fucking it up.

Make the thread right.

Holy shit.

>>78891674

oh great.

.JPG

>>78891760
bones go to bed

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Just updated. Also, I made a new background for my blog if you guys want to check it out.

littlebotcomics.tumblr.com

>>78892340
slightly darken and desaturate your backgrounds. makes the characters stand out better-

>>78892403
I darkened the background of the fifth panel for that reason. I don't really think it's needed in panels 2, 3, and 4. The focus of those panels is supposed to be the things behind the bots.

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Went to copy store to make a cardstock copy of it, and did gray scale marker stuff on it. Might do more stuff like this in the future, it seen like good "multiply" pass for coloring.

>>78892340
IMO its too loud and draws the eye away from the comic.
Personally I'd remove either the red and blue dots or the eyes, having both seems excessive.

>>78893339
Rad.

>>78893339

I like it. movement is a bit stiff looking but the use of line makes up for it a bit.

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I want to get three of these done today.

>>78895277
Why not all four bruh,

Push it to the limit

>>78895538
Because one doesn't have a deadline and i still have to do normal work.

Has anybody ever tried scanning individual panels and tying them together digitally instead of doing the whole thing on one page?

>>78896112
Personally, no. But I know someone who does.

>>78896112
It's what I do. I scan single panels then patch them together in Manga Studio and add the lettering.

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>>78896112
Absolutely.

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Reposting my page from over the weekend in case anybody missed it. What do you guys think?

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Just officially uploaded page two of AfterDeath to comic fury and Tapastic. Seems most folks would rather have speedy updates while I'm in the introduction portion of the series, so I'll start updating twice a week (Mon/Fri) at the expense of some of the bells and whistles I normally put into my pages.

A link to the series if you wanna follow it: http://tapastic.com/series/AfterDeath

I've been having a rough time deciding on a name for my webcomic.

>>78888471
I like it when the main character's family (usually the dullest characters) are funny goofs. as long as not EVERY character is. this works in paranatural too (fuck doesnt he have a sister? why doesnt she ever appear)
>>78887573
congratulence

>>78888471
Since the last comment just linked to this; this is what I was thinking too but I couldn't find a way to put it into words.

Actually I think there's several creators in this thread that try really hard to be super-cool-anime-style than they overdo it and/or neglect other things.

>>78891636
i like how it's not even a link

>>78896963
we can help! what's it aboot

>>78896963
The Incredible Butthole Adventures of Dan & Steve

>>78897661
Well it's about this pedophile who marries an old lady because he falls in love with her grandaughter... but there are more aspects to the story than that.

>>78897779
I was going to suggest Unregistered Sex Offender before I realized that was an appropriate title.

>>78897779
cant go wrong making the granddaughter's name the title.

>>78897779
"Absolutely Halal"

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Finished this page! How do you guys like that tears in the camera effect?

>>78897779
>reflection

your welcome

>>78898035
I wanna fuck evil Sora.

>>78898105
That's nice anon.

>>78896412
The word bubbles direct the reader's eye away from the majority of panel 3, pulling the reader into panel 4 before they've perhaps had a real chance to take in the art in the third panel.

>>78898035
tears in the camera? I don't get it.

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And here's a WIP of the next page!

I actually got it in so fast because I brought my comp to school today, and page 17 has been done for hours. but I didn't have a connection to post here.

>>78898462
panel 9.

>>78898461
Advice over a year late, I'm afraid.

But notes can be taken.

>>78898940
that's what I thought, but what does it mean?
>>78898915
oh shit now sora and annabeth can be GHOST BUDDIES

>>78898915
>that first panel pose
There's no way Annabeth is a guy.

>>78899165
I was actually writing a script for an animation last night, and most of annabeth's text was coming off as pretty gay, so I just decided to go with the Sam and Max's author's saying 'if it makes the joke funnier than they're gay.

>>78899165
Is this a funny game to you?

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What is the best way to profit from a smut comic?
Webcomic with tip jar and extra stuff on patron?
Sell individual chapters?
Sell the whole graphic novel as a single thing?

I already asked this on /aco/ but I still haven't heard a conclusive answer[/]

>>78899534
>Webcomic with tip jar and extra stuff on patron?

Probably this.

People fucking hate paywall stuff.

YOU GUYS ARE ALL SO TALENTED I AM SO JELLY JUST STOPPING BY TO SAY KEEP ON BEING AWESOME

>>78899666
Nice try, Satan, but even sarcasm won't make us accept your faustian bargains for talent!

We're gonna make it like every other great artist before us - by praying really hard to god and hoping we're gonna wake up one day and suddenly know how to draw.

>>78899485
Waifus are not a game.

>>78899634
>People fucking hate paywall stuff.
Man.

This used to be how... everything was.

You'd have to pay to get something.

And now you're an asshole for it.

>>78900239
and people did without
but for the first long while on the internet everything was free and people made shit for the love of making shit

>>78900239
Intellectual property isnt the same as physical property~

It follows new and different rules and as a business person your goal! Is to take advantage of that. Complaining about what was in the past ain't gonna get you anywhere

>>78899534
I sell all mine as issues on gumroad. I don't know if it's the best but I usually make 500-600 an issue at first and still get trickle.

If you set it so it has a minimum but people can donate more a lot of people usually will.

From the old thread:

>>78874353
> Manga Studio decided to merge all the baloons and ignore the overlapping tails as I rasterized the layer. Kill me now.

Did you have all the balloons on one layer? It's a useful feature in MS that it will combine multiple speech balloon vector shapes on the same layer into a single balloon, but you need to be aware it's going to do that.

I think ideally each individual text unit should be on its own layer, with its own speech balloon attached to that layer.

Note that you can have multiple text blocks on the same layer. Watch the cursor when you go to add a new piece of text; if you're close enough to an existing piece of text, it will have a + on it, and will insert the new text into the same layer as the existing text.
If the cursor has a "sheet of paper with folded corner", then it will put the new text on a new layer.

>>78902120
shit dude, that's nice.

>>78902120
What is your comic?

>>78903009
He's never going to reply to this post because his comic doesn't exist. Ignore him and move on.

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www.chaosinthetropics.com

Next page is on the site tho.

>>78903250
seven brillion points to kiki

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>>78903009
It isn't "a comic." It's individual stories.

>>78903136
I know you're probably baiting to get someone to respond but what about that makes you think it's a lie?

#1 started through paypal. #3 Also sold on Patreon.

>>78904000
Nice trips. What kinda stuff d'you draw?

>>78904000
There's a guy that frequents these threads that makes up stuff about his comics and their success, but it's clear he's talking out his ask.

May I ask who you are or at least see a sample of your work?

I'm curious if my own porn is good enough to make any money.

>>78904074

>>78895277

>>78904000

What am I looking at here...

>>78904000
Post links or fuck off.

>>78904099
Gumroad products page.

>>78899534
I have a patreon for Ennui GO! Patrons get to see the uncensored strips.

I'd honestly rather have a tip jar system, where everyone gets to see the titties and if people like me they can pay me to work. I think that's a bit more honest. But so far my paywall is working alright.

>>78904102
You fuck off, please.

Our threads would be well rid of you, whoever you are.

Not him btw. Shouldn't matter, but I'm not.

>>78904097
So it's basically all pregnancy fetish stuff?

>>78904260
Yeah. Does that discount it as profit?

>>78904228

Nother anon here, it gets annoying when that guy just posts profit images and doesnt back shit up, regardless, it gets annoying.

>>78904228
If he doesn't post links he's a 100% confirmed fake faggot. That's all there is to it. We live in an age where proofs are a ctrl+v away but strangely he refuses to provide them.

>>78904284
Nope, just curious.
What kind of marketing do you do? Just word of mouth? I imagine the pregnancy fetish community is a fairly small one.

>>78904293
this guy has posted art many times before, this is the first and only time he has ever posted about what his product actually is, what money he's making, or anything like that.. so you're thinking of someone else.

>>78904418

I have no idea who that guy is, is he SexyVerse?

>>78904414
My girlfriend does vore fetish art. It's a pretty damn small community but she makes a lot of money off of it.

People spend money on things that make them happy.

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>>78904414
Mostly just link it on Deviantart which is where most of them hang out. I could probably do more but I have hang ups about drive by linking things.

>>78904296
>>78904293
You can get banned for advertising you know. Even if "other people do it too" I wouldn't put it past you chucklefucks to report me since you're so salty today. I'm not hiding who I am.

>>78904097

>>78904296
Again, we'd be well rid of you and the fact that you lose your everloving shit right in front of us.

Stop.

>>78904506
no. i don't know if he ever had a name. he just posts very samefacey and extremely well drawn (and colored) pictures of this super beefy guy, these slightly homely old pregnant ladies, and this satyr demon guy.

strangely similar to another we briefly had where a faggy guy on a bike runs into a demon and they get all fagtastic on each other.

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Crawling progress, still waiting on an inset panel to be scanned and sent over before finishing.

Penciller and I are in disagreement over the water in the first panel here - I'm trying for simple, almost flat colours, and he's pushing for more detail and more of a realistic rendering of an ocean.
Anyone got any thoughts?

>>78896112
They do get scanned altogether but my penciller and I definitely tweak the hell out of the panel layout digitally.

There's a panel here that need flipping for it to be spatially possible, for example (I need to get on with that) and then I'll neaten out the gutters later too.

>>78904506
No it's the one about a bunch of eternally pregnant women. I think there's a satyr and a few dudes, too.

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>>78904707
http://peaceoneers.tumblr.com/
Need to get in habit of sharing link, even if only one page up so far.

>>78904707
The text bubble in the first panel is a bit cramped at "another".

I don't know about the rendering, but I'd definitely make the water darker to imply depth and make the ship stand out better.

>>78904640
>>78904719

Shouldn't that be in /aco/ than here if its majority smutt and fetish content?

>>78904615
Every fucking body posts their comic link in this thread. I'm through with you.

>>78904781
yeah jagged wordbubbles always require EXTRA space

>>78904819
Pregnant women having adventures isn't NSFW.
I don't know if there's any actual nudity in the comic but there hasn't been in the pages posted here.

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>trying to do backgrounds take 120

Its the only thing keeping me from atleast trying to do a webcomic, is this enough? I know its shit but would people still read something with such art.

>>78904823
My comic is not my gumroad account? You want to see that?

http://www.olympic-dames.com

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>>78904781
>>78904825

Very good call. Jagged bubble will be going with the inset panel that's being waited on, which will be a tv screen, so it might change quite a bit to fit that, but yes, you're right, it definitely needs more space with the jags hitting the text like that.

Thanks!

Pic is the colour test I did a while back when trying to figure out the page with some of the penciller's rough sketches - trying for 60s bright colours that they loved on Thunderbirds and Stingray, where everything had to push the boundaries of the new colour tvs.

>Comic doesn't exist
>It does.
>Provide proof or you're a fake faggot!
>Provides proof
>Fucking get out

The butt hurt is real tonight.

>>78904962
Clean it up (the lines are waay too feathery) and I'd say that's pretty good. Try to keep it fairly light unless it's important - drawing a background that doesn't distract from the actual action is an art of its own.

>>78904962
>keeping me from atleast trying to do a webcomic
Also, there's no better way to learn how to do backgrounds for a comic than to actually draw a comic with backgrounds. Get to it.

>>78905025

Where does the last on come into play?

>>78904823
Can't we just be done with you instead?

>>78905278
Seconded. I got tired of the bullshit the moment proof was provided.

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Lines are hard, yo.
How would you guys feel about this design for a main character? I'm not sure if she's too weird to have appeal.

>>78905454
I think if the legs were shorter, but just as spindly, but less hairy (i find that personally obnoxious) you'd have a super great design on your hands.

>>78905454
Her face looks like the frog girl from Boku No Hero Academia.

>>78905454

>leg hair

no

>>78893456
I think it looks ok. But, I can try to mess with it to make it less attention attracting.

>>78905454
Looks fine to me.

>>78904819
it would be if he actually posted much, but he has said he'd rather not bother us with that, only showing up to share (quite useful) art tips and such

>>78904962
turtle lair / 10
>>78905454
oh hey it's frog witch! I always liked her
I'm not super fond of the 90 degree angle that the spiral at the end of the hat takes, I think I'd rather see it just go straight and then curl
wasnt expecting the long bristly digitigrade legs either. Kinda unbalanced, possibly too long.. but I'd have to see her in action before making a final judgment

>>78905930
leg hair is fine, especially on something that aint even human (though it's odd seeing it on a frog thing.) but maybe not THAT much busy hair detail in a style that doesn't even have nostrils. I'd like to see just a few hairs along the trailing edge, that way it hints at there being more without your eye being glued there.
fine as frog's hair. aw yeah

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>>78905478
About the legs, I probably should have mentioned, she's only standing up here so you can see her properly - the idea was she'd usually go around in a frog stance so the reader would only really notice how huge they were when she stretches them out to jump or kick or something.

>>78906132
>hat
You mean something like on the bottom right? I considered it, but the extra bend feels like it would help her stand out in a lineup of witches.


>>78905930
>>78906132
>>78906201
Yeah, I figured the hairy legs wouldn't be super popular but it's kinda sorta on purpose - like, if her legs are smooth she feels too neat, when she's supposed to give off a bit of a "weirdo mutant freak" vibe, and putting leg hair on an amphibian seemed like it would really drive the point home that she's a freak of nature. (it also fits well with her character's lack of hygiene)

>>78905733
Well for once I can't claim I didn't know about the character beforehand, but in my defense it's really hard to make an appealing frog person without having them look pretty similar.

>>78906201
I see your point about the over-detailing. Gonna see about toning it down a bit.

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>>78906929
yeah I assumed as much about the frog legs, but frogs don't go on tiptoe (well they do while totally crawling sometimes)
and their knees don't stick up over their shoulders like that. So I'd still shorten them a little (another fun frog anatomy tip, they have a really long pelvis. i think it looks neat!)
and yeah that other hat is better I think. I'm with you though, being unique is fun.. howbout have the same bend, but a sharper angle, and in the opposite direction? So more like a number 2 attached to her hat?

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>>78907160
in fact, just because I had such a vivid picture in my head, this is how I'd do her anats
and if it's not your bag, I'll use it myself!

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>>78907160
I guess if I take some length of her legs and add it to her feet I could still achieve something like pic related when she jumps while having her legs be more human length.

>>78907353
Yeah that hat's really not doing it for me.

Thanks for the feedback dude, definitely given me some stuff to consider.

>>78907593
cool, glad I could help
one more bit of unsolicited feedback, if youre gonna lengthen the feet, just lengthen the toes. Granted you have this neat kinda dinosaurish stub-toed look right now, but long ones would enhance her weird mutant look. she could grab things with them!

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Possible villain for the Peaceoneers.

Or just me dicking around with a new stylus.

Don't know whether this has been considered for the OP links (or whether it is better covered elsewhere) but I found this really useful for getting the formatting right for writing the Peaceoneers script:

http://images.darkhorse.com/darkhorse08/company/submissions/DHScriptFormatGuides.pdf

>>78908642
>tarred feathers
i dig it

>>78908642
Bird Sixing Paint?

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>>78908810
I'm guessing I meant skull paint, but it very obviously does read as sixing paint.

The penciller's sketchy take on the chicken, which will feature as a one panel throwaway in the little rogues gallery scene.

I really like the Colonel Tsunami he did beside him. I don't know what I expected from a Colonel Tsunami, but that definitely looks like a Colonel Tsunami.

>>78908642
Nice.
Is there abit of Metal Gear inspiration from this?

>>78896112
This is what I do - I make all the panels on individual index cards, scan them in, and compile them on SAI.

>post stupid little comics on instagram and tumblr
>a popular artists start following me
>get super stressed out about what i post
>if i wait too long to post ill lose followers

Fuck

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Today's comic, had to take a quick nap and head to work right after upload this morning so finally showing it on /co/ too.

>>78912805
Love those expressions

>>78912743
"If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

>>78898915
*Sora* is missong the face on her cap in Panel 1

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>tfw you hate a page after inking it, and you have to redo the damn thing.

At least it came out better the second time, and I had time to redo it. How's everyone's day so far. Pretty bummed out when I heard about Bowie.

Enter main antagonist for this chapter and his body guard.

>>78912805

I love your expressions and choice of action.

>>78913173
Tonight's penciling soundtrack

http://youtu.be/aVgpPFb-RSw

What kind of music/podcasts does /hyw/ like to listen to?

>>78913471
I usually go to spotify (I used to live in Grooveshark before) and pick different albums according to the mood or mindset I'd like to set.

Today, I'm listening to Sarah Brightman. Hoping I manage to make a new strip and paint the Sentai pic I made yesterday.

>>78912826
>>78913352
Thanks guys, one comic that was a big influence for my approach to expressions was One Piece, though I've loved drawing weird faces before reading it too!

>>78913471
It depends, for this current page >>78912805
I was playing back a lot of jazz but I want to branch out some more in terms of genre in the future. I tend to listen to some rap fairly often because I'm the type to replay some things I like a million times over before feeling tired of it/

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So begins the greatest story ever told.

How will our heroes survive being... TRAPPED IN THE CHEAP-O MART??

Gonna be doing a story arc where a bunch of characters are stuck in a wallmart analogue for a few weeks. Figured now was as good a time as any to start.

http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/

Anybody else get their stuff posted elsewhere and not by them? My Deviants comic gets posted on sad panda. 31 votes and averages 4.4 stars. Pretty flattered.

>>78916430
I doubt anyone cares enough about my comic to post it elsewhere.

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>>78916762
Ditto. I've been asked to put my vidya comics on certain circles on DeviantArt, but it wasn't because what I did was good per se, they wanted the vidyart.

Showin' WIP

I find that there is no greater demotivator for me that a very cold room.

I cannot work if I'm cold.

But here's what's worse! If I open the heat vent in my room, I will not be able to stop sneezing. The dust from the attic is insane.

I just thought I'd share.

>tfw shit at art and haven't improved at all in years

>>78917316
http://amzn.com/B001L1R3O8

>>78917316

You know what's worse? Being warm with frozen fingers. Can't type or draw when I want to. FML

>>78917336
It's all about focused practice, anon. You can do it.

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>>78917409
>Price: $70.92

>>78916430
Eat a dick you smug fuck.

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Managed to finish this. I'm way too sleepy to notice any mistake ATM, but I promise to look after them once I wake up. From the top of my head, Ebony and Amazon are too similar in colour, I may have to re-colour one of them later.

Hope you like it. I'll try to get a full design for each for you to see.

>>78918179
Can't wait to read this comic!

These guys look pretty cool.

>>78916430
Why did you take your name off?

>>78919398
To make you ask questions.

>>78919474

Your a drama stirring little shit.

>>78919398

On my phone and I took it off to post in other threads. Forgot to put it on.

>>78919581
It's true, I am.

But I'm not the guy you're asking the question.

If you care to keep the peace, then just keep the peace m8.

Don't ask silly questions.

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My first ever completed ad.

What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ev88ij5mo

>>78920057
Looks pretty pro. Good job.

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I can finally get off this wild ride.

>>78920465
Why'd you get rid of the rolled up long sleeves? They looked much better.

>>78920587
Easier and faster to draw, mistake proof.

With rolled up long sleeves I can't make bend elbow in some angle looks right.

>>78920057
Looks kickass

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>>78920465

Fingerless gloves. Just throwing it out there. Or more nudes. I'd be fine with that.

>>78920057

Just like for my Japanese manga! That's a compliment.

>>78918179
>>78916938

Looks great! I dunno why, I keep thinking Megaman.

>>78914155

I'd imagine that all the really, really, REALLY bad and obscure stuff is left behind. There should be a comic where Bear Grylls is surviving in there as well but it turns out he can leave at any time and just stays at a Target instead.

>>78913173

I don't know if I'd have the patience to finish a page and then start from scratch again. More power to you!

>>78912805

Very nice! Love "villain escapes but fails miserable in the process" humor.

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>>78895020
>>78895105
Thanks, man. Yeah, I probably need to use more reference on that one.

>>78918179
The top two figure's color scheme are very similar. Its hard to make out their individual silhouettes. I suggest using thick outer-lines or some sort of rim lights or color contrast to distinguish them more.

I like the design tho, looking forward to the comic. They look like fun characters.

Here is the page I was working on last night. It was penciled mostly, but its replaced with makers today. The sound effect panels hadn't turn out as well as I had hope but it'll do for now.

>>78922238
I wanna pee in this page's butt.

>>78922238
Unf. Love that BOOM. SFX that use panels like that are always great.

>>78910227
For sure. From Snake Eater face camo to Peace Walker goons in big parkas.

>>78908642
So many names for a one panel throwaway. I like 'Fowl Play', penciller suggested 'Chicken Big' which is golden...also 'Ruester', 'Smother Hen', 'Fat Cock'...I quite like my 'Cock Strangler' but that might be too on the nose.

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>>78922310
Maaan, I don't understand your metaphors.

>>78922385
Thanks! Although I always worry those can become distracting, I am never really good with using sound words tho.

Here is next page, I haven't shaded it yet. I am reworking the dialogues.

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What annabeth is gonna look like next chapter.

Side burns babee

>>78922626
Dewd, what happened to you taking a month off to actually improve your goddamn art

>>78923822
>taking time off
>improving art

You don't improve art by sitting on your ass retard, if you did you'd know how to draw.

In order to improve you've got to work every day.

>>78922626
Girls don't have sideburns.

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>>78923871
You don't improve your art by tirelessly satisfying deadlines (even nebulous ones) either.

It takes introspection to improve.

And it takes time and space to introspect.

>>78923939
How about you take a month off of shitposting and when you get back, maybe you'll be better.

>>78923939
don't bother with the people in these threads, anon. any sort of criticism is viewed as shitposting. the people in this thread just wait to be praised for their mediocre art and stories

Thread question: if your comic were to cross over with another /hyw/ webcomic, which one would it be?

>>78923822
I said I would do that after the current chapter.

Also this is me improving my art, improving how my characters look.

And I don't know if I want to take a whole month off because of how many people said I shouldn't.

>>78923926
It's to make Annabeth look more boyish and ambiguous.

>>78924080
Probably Kiwi day N, I actually thought about doing a crossover chapter for a while, then decided against it.
The gang trying (and failing) to do a case with The Sisters would be fun too.

Alot of these characters in these threads have appeared in the comic though, usually as students in the school.

>>78924080
mostly lizard

>>78924080
Sisters or Outer City Limits

>>78924128
>sideburns
>boyish
Dewd when you give someone facial hair that's not boyish, that's straight up a masculine male man.

I think >>78923939 is giving you very good advice here - The feeling I get from your work is that you're churning these pages out at a speed where you're not really capable of stepping back, taking a deep breath and going "okay, how do I make this better" because the second you get something that kind of works, you're already moving on to the next page. That moment of reflection is the key to getting better. I think it would be a very good idea to work that into your schedule once you're done with your break (that doesn't necessarily mean "update less" - just having a buffer and working on several pages at once would give you a huge benefit).

>>78898915
>legally dead
Clinically dead. You need a doctor to declare someone legally dead (laypeople can "assume" that someone's dead, and have it recognized legally, but that's only in really obvious cases like "I found this severed head, I'm pretty sure he's dead".) /pedant

>>78924080
Prooobably The Green Knight is the best fit. KWN is also an option but I don't know how I'd write it. I did consider a short Sarah/Skalmöld joke but eh.

>>78925516
He's also making pages so fast it's obvious he's not doing quality control checks on them either, leading to multiple errors on nearly every page.

>>78925516
I do not even know how I would even start to work on multiple pages at once...

Would that mean, like, doing all of the line art and then doing all the color or something?

Also about the side burns, I'm sticking with it because I think it looks cute.

Also, I do usually take breaks in between pages then check them later to see if there are any errors.

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>>78925516
>>78925688
I'm with Dewd on this one actually - lots of women have sideburns, though it is more common in non-caucasians. So it fits with Annabeth's appearance. You probably don't realize how many women naturally have sideburns because we get rid of them after being told we shouldn't.

>>78921252
>Looks great! I dunno why, I keep thinking Megaman.

Megaman was a great part of my youth, so I don't think it's an coincidence, though I didn't plan for it to be like this specifically.

>>78922238
Yeah, that's what I said about recolouring one of 'em. I'm looking into it now to see what colour should I use for the top one. By the way, love how you made a panel out of an onomatopoeia.

>>78922626
You love sideburns, huh? Saw that picture of yours before. Also, thanks for >>78919056

>>78920465
I remember coming to this threads around the time people made turn your guy into a girl. Man are you finally taking off with this?

>>78924080
Being a slice of life, I can't think of a crossover that suits what I do. Maybe with Omega I can think of Kiwi Day, or West Tree, maybe Melee?

>>78925796
And some (or a lot) women with sideburns have long hair that naturally covers it anyway so most people never even know.

>>78920465
It's been a year or something like that, right?
Holy fuck, time flies

>>78925688
Let's say you're updating daily.
>day 1: do the layout and sketch for page 1
>day 2: layout and sketch page 2, ink page 1
>day 3: layout and sketch page 3, ink page 2, color page 1
>ad infinitum

As opposed to doing all of page 1 on day one, this gives you three days of looking at each page and being able to go "hey, this would work better if I did this other thing instead". Doing it before you get too far in the process means you're in a much better position to actually fix things.

>>78925796
Didn't know that bit of hair was considered sideburns. Still, the ones AB's sporting seems waay too masculine to belong to a woman.

>>78924024
HOW is that shitposting.

That is remarkable advice.

>>78926155
I guess I can try that next chapter.

But I often get hasty and work on the next page (because I have too much free time and get bored easily) what do I do then? And I'm also worried that I'll forget to do a page until it's too late because that's how forgetful I am.

Also, I guess I can tone down the hair a little bit on the sideburns.

>>78926181
Any post I don't like is shitposting. That's the way it works.

>>78926272
If you've got extra time you don't know what to do with, I'd suggest sketching more pages so you have even more time to think of how to improve them or (and this is the part where I find I really improve) redrawing pages you've already sketched out - like Cleese sez up in that video that never gets linked right, your second idea is usually better than your first. Or you can do some serious studyin' on your problem areas or just go enjoy your free time.

As to forgetting, get a calendar and have it remind you.

>>78926473
I'll think about this. I'm not sure if I want to do this, just thinking about this system stresses me out honestly, and to be honest, sometimes there are pages that aren't sketched out and I just go straight to line art.

Also, there's that expression, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And im already like 20 pages ahead with my current system.

And I like pretty much all the pages of the current chapter and nothing that I wish I could have done different.

But as I said before, I'll think about it.

>>78923939
Well anon, you're fooling only yourself if you really believe that you're going to improve at all while you "take time off from art". Take a break all you want, but your art isn't going to magically get better and you're not going to be gaining "introspect". You'll be like all those kids who browse Tumblr or Deviantart all day believing that they're actually improving their drawing skills by doing nothing but look at other people's art all day long.

Good luck. Don't be disappointed when you come back and find yourself in the same spot you were when you left.

>>78923926
Believe me, some do

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Hot off the baking rack!
It's Will Draw for Food!

>>78926181
>fucking off for a month is remarkable advice

Well then by all means, take your own advice and fuck off for a month.

Or better yet, don't come back until you're not a faggot.

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HEY.

"Will Draw For Food Guy"

Telegram.

Cold Fusion guy is banned for something trivial.

He wants pic related.

>>78926624
>Well anon, you're fooling only yourself if you really believe that you're going to improve at all while you "take time off from art".
No.

Stop misunderstanding.

It's taking a break from constantly doing the same bloody thing over and over.

You don't get better at playing Street Fighter 2 by only picking one character ever. You gotta switch over to Dhalsim sometimes, and see what you were taking for granted when you were playing Ken all those times.

>>78926922
Haha, tell him I'm sorry, I don't have a NSFW page. It's just commissions.

>>78926609
>if it ain't broke, don't fix it
If it ain't broke, why do so many people think your results suck?

>And I like pretty much all the pages of the current chapter and nothing that I wish I could have done different.
In that case I suggest you search them until you find something you wish you'd done differently. I cannot overstate the importance of learning to recognize your mistakes.

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Taking some time off today to work on my raven-lady martial artist's portrait. Yesterday I got two more pages inked though. I think that level of quality is sustainable for twice a week updates, though it's certainly lost some quality.

>>78922626
I still have the pic saved from when you said Annabeth was gonna get boobs and the whole cast was gonna physically age.

Hey, Status-Q guy, or whatever your comic was called. If you're reading this, please toss a tumblr or something I can follow your work at.

>>78926922
Did he post a nsfw strip in a sfw board?

>>78925796
We call those ear tails.

>>78927246
Who knows how that would happen though? Sarah's spell going wrong? Something gone wrong with SD's tech?

And these may be something that could be resolved at the end of that future chapter.

Maybe annabeth is gonna age in a completely different way.

It's the element of mystery that I love to shroud my series with.
>>78926962
But making a comic is the same thing over and over again.

Are you saying I should do the comic in a different style? Because I have a few styles I could try out.
>>78927461
Then I guess annabeth will have square shaped ear tails.

>>78927507
What happened to your comic where the West Tree characters are all in college?

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Next page is on the site!
http://www.chaosinthetropics.com/

>>78927507
>But making a comic is the same thing over and over again.
That's why you can't just do a comic and expect to improve, yes. You don't necessarily have to try out a "new style", but you definitely should study things like anatomy, composition and perspective to figure out how best to incorporate them in your comic.

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Is it okay to make a comic in a sketchy style like so? It may be lazy but trying to do cleanup lineart kills me and takes all the fun and personality out of it. Either this or I try and grit my teeth with the binary tool

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>>78926272
little sketch

>>78927621
I only draw it when I feel my farmers blood burning because of David willis doing stupid shit.

So it's on a hiatus for now. But it will return probably soon.

>>78927665
But I do try to do something new that I've never done every few pages, chapter 14 had alot of these, and this chapter had the cast in winter outfits I've never experimented before, usually it's just the generic shirt with a different color.

This comic has alot of experimentation.

>>78924128
>Also this is me improving my art, improving how my characters look.
>And I don't know if I want to take a whole month off because of how many people said I shouldn't.
If it's really you forgetting your trip and not some shitposter, then you're beyond help. Have fun going the Dobson-Jacques way.

>>78927811
If you are not going to take any advice stop replying to people with arguements. It clutters the thread.

>>78924067

This anon speaks the truth...

>>78927889
Well, I just don't like it when people say I don't try to incorporate things in to my comic like perspective and anatomy when I definetly do.

Especially perspective.

What I'm basically saying is don't tell me that I don't do something when I do.

>>78927727
The problem with sketchy stuff is that once you get more than a few elements in a shot it rapidly becomes really hard to make sense of. If you've got some way to make sure that isn't gonna be a problem, then go ahead. I'd suggest at least getting rid of totally superfluous lines like the part of her head that's under her hair, though.

>>78927811
>winter outfits I've never experimented before
Honestly Dewd, it seems like you're trying to run before you can walk. You're more in need of working on much more basic stuff like line weight, form, posing and composition than superficial stuff like different styles of clothing.

>>78927759
the girl in the back looks like a pizza in the thumbnail.

>>78927727
Its fine if you don't mind being Megatokyo

>>78928008
I do work on posing alot, I make sure it fits the character and how it fits the personality.

>>78928153
You should work harder on making Annabeth even more fuckable.

>>78895277

>Tumblr

>It's not going to be one of those piece of shit SJW feminazi comics is it?

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>>78928009
kek it's true

>>78924067
Well it would be up to the artist to differentiate what is helpful criticism and what is shitposting.

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>>78928602
this should be enough!

>>78929052
>can't see the crotch
Nice try Dewd.

>>78929052
If you think this is attractive, you're autistic.

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Two for one special!
Get it fresh!
Will Draw for Food!

>>78930589
You mean retarded, I think.

I dunno why you're still using that annoying buzzword.

Just say what you mean without this false medical legitimacy.

>>78930887
autism is a form of retardation, anon.

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>>78930919

>>78930919
Weeeaaaaak.

Although I do agree Dewd's art is just repugnant and he needs to improve. And he obviously isn't.

>>78931218
No, he's obviously improving.

And his characters are grotesques. They're not meant to be attractive. But I wouldn't expect an autistic mongoloid to know any of this.

>>78931310
>No, he's obviously improving.
Obvious on what planet.

Do you realize how long his art has looked like that?

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>>78931218
This is the very first West Tree page.

You cannot seriously tell me that he has not already improved immensely.

>>78931379
You can go back to stuff a year ago and two years ago and, I don't know, maybe three, and you'll clearly see slow, steady improvement.

It's not particularly fast improvement, but that doesn't matter. I've seen improvement in the time I've been here.

Can't say the same for others.

>>78931402
You're him.

>>78931468
What do I have to do to convince you I'm not Dewd?

>>78930589
Annabeth isn't even supposed to be attractive in the first place.

>>78931553
You're on /co/, no matter how ugly you make your characters (or how ugly your art is) someone will want to fuck them.

>>78931592
I'm just surprised they're saying that Annabeth's ugly now.

>>78931511
How about you all shut the fuck up.

>>78931511
Don't let him change the subject, anon. He was trying to argue that Dewd doesn't improve, and then when you posted evidence to the contrary he just tries to weasel out of it like a huge pussy.

>>78931767
You're him

>>78932075
No, YOU'RE him.

Lies, it is I

>>78932075
>>78932479

This is some straight up "The Thing" shit here, we need flamethrowers on the double... or... is he a triple agent?

>>78896737
you'd think a guy who sees his wife and his favorite superhero disappear would be able to put it together

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Freckles or no freckles? I'm trying to make Maude cute, but maybe not over the top cute.

I'll never understand why these threads are always so focused on Dewd. His comic isn't anything special, the writing and art are very mediocre.

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I've been popping in and out rarely over the course of the last year. And finally I've started writing shit out, having a writefag friend help out. Took me a while to find one that wasn't trying to turn my idea into their idea.
I'm gonna go over and redesign these two to be better/more unique. Kind of hard to figure out what a fist wizard would wear.

>>78934042
Because you know who thinks Dewd is the next guy up on the totem pole and is trying to drag him down.

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>>78934031
Telegram.

first time in months that I've been able to sit down and draw for a little. New job is pretty tough and makes it hard to find time for anything except sleeping and eating nowadays

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>>78934220
it would help if I actually posted the image, wouldn't it

>tfw the holidays funk you down and you don't touch a pencil for 3 weeks
I was in such a good mood art-wise all year long but December just killed me for some reason. Now I'm trying to pick up drawing again and it feels like dragging a boulder up a mountain.

>>78934267
Might be all that holiday food. Take some vitamin C and go for a walk to get that blood pumpin.
>>78934234
>>78934220
This looks pretty kick ass so far. Keep it up.

>>78934216
I'll play around with that idea when I get home. Just got out of work and I'm currently warming up my car before I take off. Will upload more Maude. I'm currently in the mood to draw more of her to help loosen my hand.

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Took a little while, but I finally got this page done!

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Also testing out breaking Manga Studio.

Leafy gets a little bit angry in the upcoming epilouge

>>78934092
nice to see you again! last i remember you were redesigning them and I was disappoint in some of the choices for the girl (you were gonna lop off that perfect nose!)
as for a fist wizard's clothes... yeah something beyond overalls. Maybe a baldrick with amulets on it. Maybe a caplet (that shoulder thingy sherlock holmes has attached to his coat, but without the long coat). definitely a big ol' belt with a big ol' belt buckle.. and some gauntlets are a must.

>>78927657
not sure if I'm digging the beatbox

the flashing is kind of out of place

but I think I'll get used to it

>>78922626
If I might implore on ya for one more reconsideration, what if it's just little locks of hair, not necessarily attached. that way it's more ambiggs

>>78923926
You probably think that they don't have body hair either, do you?

>>78938178
having some hairs on the side of your face isnt the same as having full thick sideburns with a flat edge at the bottom

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Alright, got flats done. I have a comic fury page for my comic and a drunk duck page but I'm thinking I should have a tumblr for it now. I like having back ups.

Need some help coming up with a title for my comic.

>>78938797
Is it the one about the pedophile?

>>78938797
what's it about?

>>78938839
No that was a different anon. Mine is about a girl who tries to prove the existence of paranormal things in her home town.

>>78934505
fuck you jamil

>>78938893
call it.. Prove It!
or Spooks or... uhh.. Miss Mystery
any other details?

>>78939049
The main character is really timid and meek, and basically spends all her time on her computer all day. Like a neet. Also she's in middle school

>>78938681

Looking nice and... wait is that a crystal coming out of of his face???

>>78938893
call it gravity falls

>>78939225
Wow perfect thanks!

>>78939107
Hmmmmm maybe call it 'I KNEW IT!'
either way I like this idea. The only other thing I can think of to add to the title is dependent upon what KIND of paranormal stuff happens.
>>78939205
>Don't Escape 3 crossover confirmed

>>78939366
The paranormal things start off really small (Objects being in weird places, animals doing strange things ect.) then she stumbles upon a cult performing a strange ritual and they progressively grow (Strange monsters tormenting her/putting her life in danger)

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>>78934216
Just for you anon
>>78938896
Hello.

>>78939205
...yeah. Things are about to get worse than that though. Wait until I start rendering it.
>>78939205
My names are lame and bad.
Saranormal
South of Weird
Seventh-Grade Ghosthunter
Girl VS Evil

>>78939607
Those title suggestions are for me right? lel I really like Saranormal and Seventh-Grade Ghosthunter. Main characters name is Becky though.

>>78939502
oh okay. so more magical creepy shit, not so much bigfoots and nessies. Righto. maybe something like Weirded Out or The Relatively Interesting Life of Main Character's Name

if her initials are BY then you get 'trilby'

>>78939558
oh that's WAY cute. don't you think? I want to kiss her nose now.

>>78912805
>Wesley
My name!

>>78939791
I actually really like the latter of those two.

>>78939774
lol, they were for you. I still can't into 4chan sometimes.

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update

belongingtonobody.tumblr.com

>>78939107

Character or place names might be good. What's the name of the town? Or the middle school? Is there a monster she investigates in the first part with a good name? Maybe "the Blank Blank and Other Tales."

>>78940013
Main characters name is Becky and the middle school is Crowley Middle School

>>78939952
I really like Saranormal. I don't know why lol

>>78939817
Yeah she does look pretty adorable. I think I'll keep her that way. Thanks for the suggestion

>>78938893
So weird.

Wait that's taken.

>>78939922
Becky Yates maybe?

>>78940013
in the third panel, shouldn't that second balloon be miss birch?
also not to be a picknitting dicksausage but it's generally not a great idea for the first panel of a comic to follow THAT directly from the previous, literally finishing the thought. Best to just make one long comic in that case.

How do you stay positive and motivated, pure delusion? Narcissism? Teenage hormones?

>>78940103
Okay then, Rebeckulous.
>>78941199
A combination of crack and yogurt.

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>>78941199

I'd rather have a 1% chance of being successful than a 0% chance. And the only way for it to be 0% is to not try at all.

>>78941199
stubbornness and habit.

>>78941199
90% of the people here won't make it.
10% of the people here will. That 10% will make it because they did not give up, they did not let criticism discourage them, and they did not stop making comics and doing what they love to do.

I aim to be in that 10%

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Big thankout to Carrion Girls guy for inspiring the guards' armor from a fanart he did one time.
I am embarrassed I never drew guards here before. All the other major castles I drew guards.. and this is the home of main characters! we DID see their crossbow corps once, but that's more the army
first panel was a last minute addition. it definitely goes in the pile for "jokes my parents will never get, and if I explained them it wouldn't be funny anymore"
not that it's terribly funny now. I considered leaving it out like four times.

>>78941572
Or they will succeed or not succeed because of luck
also show us your nsfw commissions i wanna see that shit even if it isnt a comic page.

>>78941753

Oh man Flanders is about to get some!

>>78941199
Realism.

>>78936815
I'll take these into consideration. The only thing I'm changing about the girl is the ears and costume.

>>78942287
oh okay
but still pointy ears right?
just maybe not with those earlobe corners. maybe more zelda type or spock type

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>Have a great idea for a webcomic
>Got stories, characters, and everything else thought out and I love every bit of it
>Can draw decently, but only single characters standing in a normal pose, because I haven't learned to do anything else other than that
>Can't draw scenery, really detailed emotions, or even simple stuff like houses and shit
I know I know, I need to practice, but shit man I really want this project to get started asap

>>78942716
Start comic. Draw different perspectives and poses and scenery that you need. Use references. Get better while drawing the comic. The chances that your first comic will be "perfect" from the get go are actually zero anyway, so better have fun and get better while doing so.

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Mostly drawn with a mouse because I'm a lazy shit.

Based on a tr00 story.

>>78942716

WWDD
What Would Dewd Do?

>>78942716
then start writing and do character sheets
in between writing, practice your art
once you're ready, you can just turn that writing into comic pages on the quickfast

>>78942952
heh. i once saw a pigeon glide for a ludicrously long amount of time, 3 inches above the ground, without flapping. theyre bugs in the matrix i tell you
so what's in the garbage bag

Hey there anons!
Will Draw for Food is coming to a DeviantArt near you!

Now you can enjoy all the joys of Will Draw for Food in the company of mouth breathing amateur fetish artists, dramatic attentions whores, and that one creepy guy who just posts pictures of his dog in various women's underwear.

Drama! Action! Romance! Comedic Everyday Situations! Horrifying Existential Revelations! And the Amazing Journey of Being a Webcomic Artist!


http://willdrawforfoodcomic.deviantart.com/

>>78942716
I started out with a light-hearted slice of life comedy comic. Something that benefits from nice art, but doesn't depend on it, you know?

>>78943053
That's the problem though, I have done both of these things
I've even done repeats of character sheets because I've had this idea for years now, and I've actually seen me get better at this stuff. Just recently I finally came up with the full story so both of those things are complete
The only thing left is my incompetence and me not knowing the basics of scenery or even how to make anything that isn't a character I've drawn over the past couple months

>>78943072

Who knows? I got really bored trying to stock the darn shelves with the typical fare. This was like a really really tiny bird. I was expecting a rat at least.

>>78943122
Is dA a good place for a webcomic? How about a serial?

I finally got a comicfury account the other day and I'm please with the new readers I'm getting.

>>78943122
woot. gonna put the commissions on there?

>>78943175
well that sucks dude, it sounds like you've put off eating the banana runts and now they're the only ones left in the bag. better get eating or i'm not buying you another one.

>>78943247
it's a lousy place for navigating a comic but it's fine for getting attention and great for fielding comments

What's the minimum amount of daily viewers before your comic is considered not shit?

>>78943247
Not the best place to start, I recommend Tapastic, or your own website.
I'm expanding my audience and driving traffic towards my Tapastic site (and in the near future, my own website) to drive Ad Revenue and make more money.

DeviantArt, as far as my knowledge of it goes, has steadily been lowering in quality since 2008. But, its still a great place to build a fanbase if you don't have one.

>>78943256
You really want to see these NSFW things, don't you?
Sorry bro, I never hang on to them for long. I usually delete them after I send them off to my clients. I get paranoid about that stuff on my computer.

>>78943344
nah it's not that i desperately want them or anything. I'm just curious. every day for a while now I check your comic and tapastic is all 'join us lol' and i'm like 'no' and it's like 'but this guy drew nsfw things' and the comments are all 'this isnt even nsfw what the hell' and now i REALLY wanna see them.

>>78942716
Just take a look at the average webcomic here and you'll feel better. No one can draw

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>>78943451
Oh that!
Oh, haha, it wasn't even that bad.
Here, I'll post it now that I know what you're looking for.

>>78943508
>that thing where you don't want to sound desperate and crazy so you don't specify what you're asking for, but in the process people don't know what you're asking for
pretty tired of that happening all the time. but i've tried being myself. nobody responds properly to that!

wait wait wait...

taptastic will pay you advertising revenue if you go through them?

>>78943578
Yes. Once you've made a webcomic and met certain requirements (a.k.a. Not fresh off the boat) then you can participate in their Ad Revenue program.

I'm making $0.06 for every 100 views.
It's not bad; mo' views, mo' money.

>>78943634
What do you mean by not fresh off the boat?

>>78943668
Not signed up the very same day, and I think you have to have a certain amount of subscribers.

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WIP of the next page!

though there are some spoilers though, so read at your own risk!

>>78943696
Do you remember what the minimum was?

>>78943722
I was already beyond any minimum that was set when they initiated the program.
Don't go into making webcomics because you want to make money, go into because you want to share your story. The money is secondary.

>>78943770
No, no, I've been doing this for almost a year now with no other intention than to tell a story and entertaining a few people. The idea that I can make some pocket change off of it is entirely new to me. Maybe some day.

>>78943816
Just don't think of it as your traditional 40 hours a week, for 40k a year kind of job.
Being an artist of any kind usually means you'll be receiving your finances in small doses, passively, from multiple sources. You need to slowly build your empire, and if you can find a source that you'll make even less than a dollar while doing nothing for, explore that source.

You'll get there, anon.

>>78943721
exorcism*
very nice expression and tilting of features in panel 6.
I have no idea what's going on and for once I feel like that's intentional! Good show

>>78943853
Right, no, I've got the well paying career job anyway. I do this as a hobby and making money would just be a little padding to declare on income taxes. Pay the gardener to do the backyard as well as the front. Maybe take some art classes at the community college.

>>78943933
Ah, my bad, I assumed you were pursuing this as a career.
Well, enjoy your hobby then!

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Felt like doodling these two.

Kind of wish I could start this comic too, but I'm too busy with Little Bot.

>>78944322
she's really shaping up. I think it's good you've waited this long because it's really different from your original designs.. and I think better.

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>>78944389
Thanks. I think she looks better too now. Although, I feel a little bad abandoning the old design. Sentimental attachment, and stuff.

I'm probably going to put the old design into another story, if she fits into it. Not as a main character though.

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>>78924080
I was actually planning to have Carrion Girl's main characters as background characters at one point; problem is that it would be for the THIRD arc of the story, so I hope CG is still ongoing by then, at least to keep it more relevant
Kiwi Day N could also work, since that world is also a mismash of various mythologies and many characters walk around topless.

>>78925516
>Thanks! Although I always worry those can become distracting, I am never really good with using sound words tho.

Don't be, I think lettering is usually one of the most neglected aspects of comics; for too many artists (inclusing too many professional ones), I feel they see it almost as an afterthough. It's good to have the lettering as a part of the illustration, it's something comics can do that no other medium really can. Obviously it also dépends on the tone of the comic and you shouldn't overload your page with them, but one nice onomatopaeas really give pages more energy

>>78925812
They did not make me change. I was considering switching MC's for a while.

>>78943072
Pigeons are fantastic flyers with really powerful wings for their size. This is kind of the reason why you see a lot of pigeons, they're very strong animals.

are there any good writing guides out there? i really need help organizing my thoughts into something cohesive and not complete garbage.

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>>78946674
I really like Joseph Campbell style story circles. Adding character growth is an easy way of creating a story that feels complete and narratively satisfying, and doing story circles for at least two of your main characters (more for subplots or taste) can create a really nice skeleton to build the plot events around.

So just start abstract doing story circles, then figure out what events could facilitate each stage.