Alot of shit I tend to notice in some forms of media is how comics and cartoons like to put the military,technological and even human factions as the bad guys which I down right hate sometimes forcing us to go though boring gurellia organizations of mutants or how humans are so weak and technological inept they cant fight the forces or aliens and lastly the worst contender in this. Squad of soldiers who gets sent into a base always gets wiped out by some random ass virus or monster EVEN THOUGH they were highly trained soldiers they couldnt fight this one new combatant all of a sudden.
Why do some people do this?
anyone remember that Starship troopers cartoon
We will never know if they managed to defeat the bugs...
Space marines are pussys
Imperial Guard is where its at
There was a DC miniseries I saw storytimed here a while back about a branch of the military specially trained to fight aliens, and then wound up getting involved with demon shit that ended in a battalion marching into a level of Hell and securing it as a strategic asset. Can't for the life of me remember what it was called though.
Is this fucking Doom? Sounds kinda like 40k aswell
>Why do some people do this?
Why do they do what?
You're asking about what here? Narrative structure? A narrative structure is individual; you can make generalizations about multiple narratives, you can recognize certain commonalities between disparate narratives, but ultimately each narrative is unique. The choices made in the creation of that narrative may follow certain expectations, and may even be derivative of other works (in which case the responsibility of choice isn't borne by that work, but by the original), but they are still unique. Usually, "write what you know" holds, and things go a certain way because it's what would realistically happen, or what the audience expects to happen, and a sudden, shocking departure from the familiar would detract from the story rather than add to it.
To answer your specific points:
>Alot of shit I tend to notice in some forms of media is how comics and cartoons
This is just pure garbage. You don't even know what you're saying. You notice this in what, operas and talk radio? Then it's second-hand and not derived from primary experience, so you don't notice it directly. This isn't the board for discussing operas or talk radio. If you mean comics and cartoons say comics and cartoons, you fucking faggot.
> military,technological and even human factions as the bad guys
There's a lot that don't, but don't let that stop you being butthurt about it. I assume you mean sci-fi/fantasy? Because you didn't specify. Still, the number of military dictatorships, sanctioned massacres by uniformed forces, technocratic impositions on civil society for personal gain, and, you know, humans who want to kill each other/everything else in the real world is non-negligible, unless you live under a rock and haven't noticed. So that's why they do that: because it's credible.
>which I down right hate
Color me surprised.
> forcing us to go though boring gurellia organizations of mutants or how humans are so weak and technological inept they cant fight the forces or aliens
Really this is a completely separate argument you've tried to start here, and I'm not sure you understand that it is because you appear to be a retard of some kind. Guess what tho: humans are mortal. We're not gods. We frequently, in everyday life and in military operations, come up against our own frailty and limitations. Often this is the result of poor planning or delusional belief in our own superiority.
>EVEN THOUGH they were highly trained soldiers they couldnt fight this one new combatant all of a sudden
There's a lot of reasons that might happen. Threat-building - showing something to be very powerful so that even a dumbass can see it's a credible threat - through demonstrating the folly of arrogance or the reliance on tactics and weapons designed to fight other threats; hell, anybody who's served in a combat theater will tell you without good intel you are dogmeat. A new threat? You're probably dogmeat. You will take casualties.
Again, real world: look at how hard it is for real, highly-paid, highly-trained, heavily-armed and highly-mobile armies to fight insurgencies of drug farmers and people traffickers. If your argument had any merit, these insurgencies should be over in hours. The same applies with high-human cultures descending on inept aliens the galaxy over and beyond: just because we spent more and our spaceships look like spacedicks doesn't mean we're gonna win.
I just wanted a humanity fuck yeah thread
but I GUESS you make some good points
Marvel had a New Mutants arc like this
the army unit got cut off and they survived like 10 years in it with most of the guys having demon limbs because they lost their own limbs in fights
Being a BPRD grunt is suffering
>get turned into Frog Monsters
>get mutated by sentient blood mist
>get eaten by fucking vampires
>get killed and have your corpse possessed by you superior officer
I dunno a lot of those "HUMAN BEINGS BREATHE ROCKET FUEL!!!" claims are pretty stupid because any form of life will need to use some volatile shit to produce enough energy to be active enough to create complex society and innovations.
But there was one really cool analysis I saw that explained that humans would most likely be a heavy-world species since Earth's size puts it right on the upper-end scale of gravitational pulls that would be possible to escape with conventional rocketry. Any bigger and escape velocity would be impossible to reach.
I can't find that screencap now though and it's driving me nuts.
>tfw 40k has a chapter full of wolverine space marines
To bad in classic 40k fashion not alot of people like them
>Imperial Guard or Astral Militarum or whatever the fuck they are nowadays
>in a setting where humanity is decaying from within and getting slowly whittled down from outside threats
Dont forget the chaos gods already won
There was some shitty fanfiction Warhammer 50k that had the Black Templar's and what ever humans left go on a constant crusade
only good part of it
Humans being on top of their game makes many people's fantasies inadequate, because their fantasies are precisely an escape into a higher order of relevance than they can achieve in reality. People don't like thinking some guys with guns can be that good, after all, they're guys too and they're not so good.
Besides, when we actually do things right, it doesn't look as impressive as we wish it would. Even the actual pro-human stuff forgets how damn good we are at killing from afar rather than doing silly heroics, all our obscene artillery and ballistic rocketry and precision air power, it has never once seemed 'fair' or honorable, but i kinda like that we are not, because the one who's trying to win the hardest actually cares about what he's fighting for.
>look at how hard it is for real, highly-paid, highly-trained, heavily-armed and highly-mobile armies to fight insurgencies of drug farmers and people traffickers.
Mostly because of political reasons rather than the military itself. If you actually think that a highly organised armies can't outright destroy any petty threats like farmers and wannabe communists then I don't know what kind of history you're reading.