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I found an old VHS copy of Phantom Menace, which I have watched again.
The Neimoidians are terrible villains. Too obviously stooges, no menace.
>The battle droids and rolleypolley robots are cool.
Darth Sidious shows up in like the first ten minutes, for a phone call.
Jar Jar's high pitch whine is particularly obnoxious, and the Gungan king is nearly as bad with his tics and slobber.
>The gungan city and ship is beautiful.
That the trade blockade is a gigantic thing holding the entire planet hostage is really poorly conveyed.
Queen Amidala's escape sort of just happens without fanfare and the enormity of the situation is sort of just forgotten.
>R2D2's intro is fun and functional enough.
>Watto's CGI has aged fairly well.
That the Trade Federation has assembled an entire army is really the main plot, and how & why they have so much military power is not conveyed at all.
Jake Lloyd is not great, the writing is worse. Jar Jar continues to be unfunny.
C3PO's intro is obnoxious.
There's a scene between Sidious and Maul that's shown really late after the escape and doesn't really illuminate anything.
If everyone understands that Queen Amidala would be signing a treaty under duress, why would it be legal?
The entire plot to get the money for hyperdrive by betting on the pod race is really contrived.
>The twist that Padme is the Queen is actually really clever, hidden in plain sight.
The divine birth thing is awful.
A lot of boring scenes between Anni and his pod, aliens kids, Smee & Quigon.
Darth Maul arrives on the planet, sends out some droids, and does....nothing.
If Tatooine is lawless and isn't under the Republic's domain, why can't Quigon just kill the slave-owning Watto? Why is he allowed to gamble for a slave?
>Sebulba is a great villain.
>The pod racers are cool. Lots of neat designs.
>"Naked" C3PO is a pretty cool puppet
Jake Lloyd look like a baby in his pod.
Just what has Obi-Wan been doing for days?
I don't know much about trading cards but can someone who is tell me how much a certain Star Wars card is worth?
I recently bought a pack of force awakens cards on a whim and I got the foil variant of pic related (084/250). I noticed that the normal card goes online for roughly $0.50 to $2.00 and I was hopeful that this might be worth something.
Why doesn't Darth Maul scout tatooine himself? Shouldn't his sith abilities guide him to what he wants?
Holy shit Terrance Stamp is in this movie, and he's completely wasted.
Why wouldn't the Senate acknowledge Naboo's invasion by the Trade Federation? Was the transmition jam not immediately suspcious?
A 9-year-old is too old to become a Jedi?
Samuel L Jackson and the Jedi council are mostly decent.
Let me explain midichlorians to a child an hour into the movie.
Why return to Naboo?
Queen Amidala's plan is an 11th hour peace treaty with the Gungans? All it takes is her bowing and the threat on invasion? It's so arbitrary.
Why bring Annakin to a war zone? Does the Jedi temple not have a day care?
Seriously this kid is ducking laser fire.
So like twenty naboo ships are supposed to take down the droid control ship. With no plan other than to shoot it?
>The battle droid army is really cool.
Motherfucking Darth Maul shows up and the movie wakes the fuck up.
Annakin 'accidentally' does everything right to pilot the ship.
Why did Sidious have such confidence that Maul could take on two Jedi? He's getting his ass kicked for much of the fight.
Where dooes the glowey room they fight in have weird shields that pop up?
>Quigon and Maul having a stare down that puases their fight is great.
Annakin has zero narrative tension in the film
Amidala's plan to counterkidnap the Viceroy also makes no sense.
>Rey Park is better with a single bladded lightsaber than with a double.
Annakin saves the day with no plan, no training, by accident. Motherfuckers call Rey a mary sue.
Obi-Wan kills Maul by doing a flip over his head from below? Maul had him completely at his mercy.
Yoda makes a big stink about Obi-Wan training Annakin, but if Annakin is so dangerous *and* important, why can't Yoda or Mace or another master train him?
The entire Jedi council shows up for the Gungan/Naboo ceremony, when they couldn't be bothered before to help before?
Best story reminder:
Star Wars: Alien
Following a rumor, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and his grumbly ragtag crew pilot his whale shark freighter to a wasteland planet with a derelict spacecraft to hunt some Rathtars
The Rathtars slowly hunt the crew-- more about their disposition and phisiology is revealed, such as, they "go into heat" explaining their aggressive behavior in TFA, and also that they require sapient fluids to construct their nests (explaining abducting Finn in TFA)
In the end, Chewie and Han use each other as live bait to trap them in the holds
[/spoiler]IN SPACE, NOONE CAN HEAR YOU TELL THEM THE ODDS[/spoiler]
>Giant Tentacle monsters
>they "go into heat"
Oh boy, I hope they brought lube or a bacta tank for their asses.
What happened to Inqusitors?
Were they already finished by ANH?
Does anyone know if there are model kits of this ship?
It's probably my favorite ship out of all of the PT stuff.
I'm fairly sure Vader told the lot of them to stay the fuck away from Luke. His origins are essentially a state secret you wouldn't want in the hands of a branch of imperial intelligence which, by nature, wants to climb the ranks to the top...
There doesn't seem to be that many of them and with the Jedi mostly dead they're starting to become obsolete. Hopefully we get more information on them in Rebels over the seasons, they're a pretty interesting organization.
I honestly don't know why I got so attached to him.
The big question is why we haven't seen then outside Rebels, the comics would make a prime place to show them more, but nothing about it so far.
Although i can get behind the anon who said that Vader probably told them to stay the fuck away from Luke
Can Zabraks be sexy?
Muh storeh has a lot of them.
>I WANT MY SON TO HAVE MY LIGHTSABER WHEN HE'S OLD ENOUGH
why did Obi lie to luke?
Maul and Savage are both ultra black. All Dathomirian Zabrak males are. The coloration is from tattooing.
"Hey Luke, want to be a Jedi Knight? Your dad used to be one but then he betrayed and murdered all the other Jedi including stabbing a bunch of kids in the face. With that very lightsaber in your hands! He was a good friend."
There's a Certain Point of View™ at play where Obi-Wan would rather Luke remember his dad as a hero rather than a murdering, tyrannical bag of cybernetic dicks. I can't really blame him.
>didn't read Before the Awakening to be introduced to Nines before he became a meme
It's sad how many people this encompasses.
>This, unfortunately, may be the end of the story of Nines, since Han shot him. But Boba Fett fell into the Sarlacc Pit, and he’s definitely still alive. Which leaves plenty of room for, like, a 2021 release of Boba and the Nines: A Star Wars Story, featuring helmets.
Why are these people allowed to officially write things? There's no proof that the Boba movie would be after ROTJ, and no proof that he is even still alive!
>There's no proof that the Boba movie would be after ROTJ, and no proof that he is even still alive!
They must have heard about Boba's armor being found in Aftermath and assume he's still alive. Not solid proof to argue whether he is or isn't alive, but people want their Boba.
>no proof that he is even still alive!
He's too marketable to have dead. He will make a cameo in at least one of the next two movies, and al the spergs in the theater will have a collective orgasm.
I never got Boba, Jango was a badass through and through, but Boba never seemed to do anything, most of the time I remember him he's being overshadowed or falling into a sand vagina.
>Why are these people allowed to officially write things? There's no proof that the Boba movie would be after ROTJ, and no proof that he is even still alive!
>One of the most popular characters in the franchise
>Tons of cosplayers and merch just as him
>So popular a entire culture and slew of characters were made to flesh out his backstory
>disney is gonna keep him dead
>So popular a entire culture and slew of characters were made to flesh out his backstory
That didn't stop Disney from discarding literally everything about him, that wasn't in the movies or TCW. The idea behind Mandalore was even changed as well. :^)
You do realize the reason people think he's cool is because 1: he managed to beat Han Solo, 2: he reminded people of the man with no name, and most importantly 3: he had tons of comics and novels written about him in the EU. Nobody just has Boba Fett as their favorite character because of his helmet. Also >inb4 you say 'well his EU stuff was shitty!' because what matters is that he was fleshed out despite his small role in the movies and because there's now so much Boba Fett media in the EU people like him.
Reading Darth Plaguies right now and it's really, really high quality. I enjoyed Lords of the Sith but it wasn't on this sort of level. What other EU books are this well-written and don't directly conflict with Nu-Canon?
>1: he managed to beat Han Solo,
No, the Empire did. He just claimed the money from it. He actually was beaten by Han Solo.
>and most importantly 3: he had tons of comics and novels written about him in the EU
>inb4 you say 'well his EU stuff was shitty!' because what matters is that he was fleshed out despite his small role in the movies
Development doesn't matter if it ruins the character and is absolutely shit.
I was referring to both characters roles in the movies alone. Of course I know Boba has much more going on in the EU. That doesn't change the fact that Boba, just like Phasma, is just a "cool armor character" in the movies.
I just think it's a bit hypocritical to complain about how Phasma doesn't do anything interesting in the film, when Boba didn't do much of substance either. The only thing that makes Boba better than her is, like you said, that he has over thirty years of expanded universe stories to flesh him out. And I admit that is a valid and completely understandable reason to like him.
On a random note, is Phasma even going to be IN the next movies? The old empire would hear one word about the person who put their own life above the glorious starkiller bases shields, and execute anyone who had even said her name in passing. Heck, Sheev almost killed Vader for the death star 1 thing, and it wasn't even his fault.
Plagueis does actually have some contradictions, like Maul's origin and there would need to be clarification on Dooku's involvement since TCW altered it.
Also, it's kind of odd that Palpatine's real name wouldn't show up in the book at all, though that's pretty minor.
Anyways, I don't know whether or not there are any huge contradictions, but the Jedi Apprentince and Jedi Quest books are good. Some of the books centered on Jedi between RotS and ANH are good too.
>Boba Fett purposefully looked like an absolute retard and was hit by a blind man causing himself to fall into the Sarlaac and die.
She's confirmed to return for Ep8.
>She's confirmed to return for Ep8.
Either on the run from the First order and turned into a support character, or Snoke is Really forgiving, and mercy was not Imperially approved.
She'll be back. But does anyone actually want her to? To me shes kind of done, she's a total joke. They advertised this iron willed chrome trooper and when she meets the enemy she immediately surrenders and is literally thrown into the trash.
I mean at least Boba Fett accomplished bad guy stuff before he was comically undermined. Phasma didn't even fire a shot, all she really manages to do is fuck over her own forces and cause the destruction of her own base. It's bizarre cause the marketing and everything they were talking about made it seem like they were really intending her to be the new cult favorite.
Boba round 2,we know how much the audience goes for these characters now so we're not gonna make the same mistakes as last time. Whoops we made her an even bigger loser than he was.
It's gonna take a hell of a lot of work to build her back up as a credible threat after that shitshow.
Yeah, she's going to have to earn her reputation now. The general fanbase has dismissed her, most people forgot she exists next to Nines.
Boba at least had some cool shots in ESB for the fanbase to jizz over, even if he did nothing. Phasma just gets thrown into the trash offscreen.
I don't even like Boba, but he is clearly a more interesting and favorable character here.
Though I do like the idea of her being demoted down to the leader of a single squad and chasing after Finn or someone in an attempt to clear her name, Along with the miraculously revived Nines,
Actually a commando droid, bugged to only yell "Traitor"
>most people forgot she exists next to Nines.
The fact that an unknown, supposedly nameless, one-scene wonder of a character became so popular while Captain Phasma herself is now forgotten, is saddening to me, Gwen deserved better. If an anon said, months before the movie even came out, that a regular stormtrooper would have gotten so popular that the creators gave him an official name I would have called him a faggot. And yet, here we are.
The thing people love about Boba (or at least me), is he comes off as kind of a wildcard. He's the man with no name in space. Since hes not part of the Empire you're not really sure what hes gonna pull. Especially when he starts giving lip to Vader (in the movie that popularized Vader force choking all his goons) The fact that hes not just another boot licking goon makes him intriguing.
He looks cool standing around and has some great body language too. For example the way he just stares at Lando while Han screams in the background, or how he instantly goes to shoot the shit outta Chewie when he starts going nuts. ROTJ has a few moments like this too, like the nod he gives Leia or (special editions anyway) flirting with those girls.
The thing is Bobas popularity was almost a complete accident, pure lightning in a bottle. Phasma was engineered and they fucked it all up. Unless they have some plan up their sleeve.
To be fair, he had an official name before he got popular. We just didnt know he was Nines.
It's possible that they retroactively made him the same trooper as Nines after he got popular though, just so he could have a backstory.
I doubt it. The other books similar to Before the Awakening (Smuggler's Run, etc) all have the pictures with certain things colored red. Said things end up important at some point, and Nines' hair was red, showing that he would be important at some point.
Phasma is actually the thing that peaked my interest the most in that first trailer. An imposing stormtrooper??
I thought she was going to be the head of some squad that'd hound the heroes wherever they go. Kind of a miniboss deal. She's still a stormtrooper, but she's a little more independent. Leaning into bounty hunter or inquisitor territory, purely for the First Order.
You really should see it. I'm pretty tired of hearing idiots say how "unoriginal" the new movie is for copying the same formular that has been used for every single Star Wars movie before it.
what he cant make any thing star wars any more? if he wanted to make a furry c3po with a vcr axe he couldn't? make a book about geonosians? any input what so ever?
correct, he cannot make anything star wars, unless Disney lets him.
Disney owns it, they get who they want to make their things. If Lucas makes anything star wars without their permission, they can sue his fat ass.
>what he cant make any thing star wars any more?
He probably doesn't want to, with how the rabid fanbase acted all the fucking time whenever he was around. I wouldn't either, the Star Wars fanbase is more or less broken and if I were a content creator I wouldn't want to touch this franchise with a ten foot pole.
>Perlmutter ain't exactly happy with them either.
Perlmutter wouldn't be happy unless Marvel consisted solely of himself in a room with a phone, licensing Marvel properties to other companies.
>"rehash" than every other SW movie after ANH.
It might not be a complete rehash, but this movie bored me to death and felt un-inspirational and too safe. Yeah, it was ok, but that's about it. The locations were too boring and didn't feel that exotic and the aliens themselves were lacking.
Sorry but I really dont agree with this.
He is saying that having the ambition to attempt something new isn't a good thing, and that staying with a sucessful formula is A-OK.
But I don't think that is fair at all, the prequels added a lot to the franchise just for the fact that they did new and daring stuff.
I'm not even one of the people mad about TFA, I liked it, but saying that being unoriginal is fine as long as it works is just being way too willing to accept laziness. And it discredits the effort of when the creators try to do something new.
Poe. He may as well have been a bit role, regardless of how charismatic he is. The fact that his surviving the TIE Fighter crash was revised last minute doesn't help. I like the character, but like with Phasma he could have been handled much better.
Finn was a joy through and through. Ethnic representation doesn't matter nearly as much to me as it does to most, even if it is nice to see more racially diverse entries these days. What makes or breaks that however is the treatment of the characters within - if they're relatively bit parts, stereotypes or wish fulfillment as opposed to actual living, breathing people, then what's the point?
Fortunately Finn was the latter and that made him much more all encompassing. Like Lando and Mace, kind of. They made their roles fit into their shoes and now it's hard to see them any other way.
Yes, because a well written, well directed, well edited, well shot and well acted movie is somehow "bad" because it doesn't have unique CGI locations, right? We finally got a good movie again and you are complaining for no reason.
>a well written, well directed, well edited, well shot and well acted movie
Bob Iger, is that you?
To add to this, I'm saying that ALL creators are being discredited. Lucas, Filoni, and yes, even JJ. Creativity should be encouraged. There's only so much pottery I can take before it just becomes straight up laziness, and I think JJ went too far in TFA.
But I will gladly praise him for anything new and interesting he did too.
Have you even watched the review? He is saying that it's unfair and stupid to criticise TFA for using the same plot beats of ANH when every other beloved sequel did the same. If you watched the review you would've seen that the only "different" Indiana Jones film (crystal skull) was also the only bad movie in the franchise.
Empire Strikes Back was bashed by journalists and haters for being exactly like the first Star Wars movie back then. Now everyone loves it.
>It's unfair to criticize because everyone else does it
>I would've given TFA a pass if they at least did the same formula right. They didn't.
It was fine.
>Yes, because a well written, well directed, well edited, well shot and well acted movie is somehow "bad" because it doesn't have unique CGI locations, right?
>But I will gladly praise him for anything new and interesting he did too.
Finn being a storm trooper who rebels was all him.
In Ardnt's screenplay from Lucas's story, Sam is the son of Han & Leia, who works as a junker.
It all just boils down to people rather being content with what they know as opposed to having to go through new things
Lessons in change. People wanted exactly what they'd been told of what happened in the OT with the Prequels, but George instead actually quite cleverly hit them with a "reality bites" subversion of the "truth" given to us in the OT. The stories Obi-Wan and Yoda were telling were through rose colored glasses. That should have been obvious from the start but people are always looking to take others at their word that they leave little to no room for interpretation. People only know how to think literally
That said, though, while Poe > Finn in my books, it doesn't change the fact that I liked them both a lot. It's like comparing your favorite food with your second favorite.
Isn't that every internet argument ever? They drop evidence in favor of senseless violence or childish namecalling?
Yeah, I am watching the review.
I still disagree with it. I would be more ok with it if it wasn't for the fact that chronologically, the movie before it was ALSO about a Death Star rip-off needing to be blown up.
Again, there's only so much sticking to a formula that I can take.
If you watch the movies chronologically, then there's a 4 movie period where 3/4 of the movies are about blowing up a Death Star. That's just not right, it's really showing off the laziness.
I also completely disagree with the notion that something has to "feel Star Wars", and my reason is this; To FEEL Star Wars, it's really meaning to "feel like the OT". But Star Wars isn't just the OT.
The OT is only HALF of the movies. Someone growing up on the Prequels, Star Wars feels more like the Prequel movies to them.
This isn't like Indiana Jones where there's an "odd one out", we're talking about literally half of the entire franchise. You can't just dismiss half of the franchise, and say "well TFA is good because it feels like the half that I like".
Do you see what I mean?
And yes, I know about the Empire bashing. I personally don't listen to reviewers. Everyone has different tastes. I have loved every Star Wars movie (with the exception of 2) rom the moment I watched them, I have never let the opinions of others bring me down, and never will. I judge each movie individually and if I like it, I like it. If I don't, I dont.
Again, I liked TFA. I really did, thinking about going to see it again soon. But saying that it was too similar to ANH is a very legitimate critisism. At the very least, the execution of Starkiller Base was.
I would have actually completely forgiven it if they failed to blow up the base. That would have been enough to be different IMO.
The characters were much better than in ANH. Kylo Ren was an actually interesting villain and not just a henchman like ANH Vader. It's unfair to compare them to the older characters because we've just been introduced to Rey, Finn, Poe and Kylo but we knew Luke, Han, Leia and Vader for decades. But if just compare ANH to TFA, then TFA has the morer compelling characters.
People post their criticisms of TFA all the time here, and it always just leads to contrarian shits like you shouting "NO UR WRONG IT MADE A BILLION THAT MEANS ITS GRRRREAT"
Fuck off, idiot.
But the prequels were often criticized for "not feeling like Star Wars". Now fans are complaining about TFA feeling "too much" like the OT. You really can't please Star Wars "fans".
>I would have actually completely forgiven it if they failed to blow up the base. That would have been enough to be different IMO.
Same here. Starkiller was not utilized well at all. Would have done better to last into the next film, at least. Or hell, throughout the trilogy somehow. And maybe not have it as a random snowy planet. Maybe even as the capital of the First Order or something.
Look man, maybe if the movie didn't need a damn guidebook to better understand the motivations, settings and characters better I might be more impressed with it. But, as it stands, the movie is so half assed that you have to buy a guide book for it. Which I'm sure the merchandising element loves.
>Rey's character ruins it desu
She's fine. She's a redressed Luke Skywalker with Annakin's skill level.
If you have a problem with her, you better regard Phantom Menace as the nadir of Star Wars, because 9-year-old Annakin brought down a droid control ship and killed like thousands of people....accidentally.
Everytime this threads start are like heaven, now it's a fucking battlefield in here.
>the movie is so half assed that you have to buy a guide book for it.
Or you can just wait for the sequels. They will certainly explain more about the state of the galaxy or Kylo Ren's past. Can't put too much stuff into one movie.
That's true. Star Wars "fans" are never happy. Thats why I love these threadas. Sometimes there is pointless argueing, but we also have plenty of discussion about stuff we love, which I don't really see anywhere else.
If I try talk about Star Wars anywhere else, it's either "Lucas/JJ/Filoni/Disney sucks and ruined star wars and raped my childhood!", or complete circlejerking where negative opinions arent allowed.
There needs to be a balance for healthy discussion IMO.
I was hoping Starkiller Base was going to be a recurring threat that would finally be tackled in the final movie. But now it just seems like they're going to have "Starkiller Base 2" and my god I will not be ok with that.
Well that's the amazing thing.
Anybody who has watched TCW will know, Star Wars doesn't have one feel, and it never should. Star Wars is an entire GALAXY of stories. Stories of love and romance, tragedy, adventure, horror, politics. You can have a story about monsters, a story about witches, a story about family, or a story about betrayal. You can emulate ANH, or RotS or do something completely new, and as long as you dont discredit the stuff that has come before you, you are contributing positively to the franchise.
That's my take on what it is to feel Star Wars.
I still remember the sheer HATRED of Ahsoka in 2008.
People were foaming at the mouth, saying George has destroyed any credibility he had, raped Vader by giving him a spunky teen girl apprentice.
You couldn't look anywhere online without seeing how Ahsoka was worse than Jar Jar. It sounds weird now, but I am serious, it was very common to see Ahsoka listed as worse than Jar Jar.
Now she is beloved by almost the entire fanbase, beat Luke in the official poll, and people tear up at the very thought of Vader killing her.
I want the First Order to pull a coup against the remnants of the Empire still in the Core, resulting in their taking Coruscant in Episode VIII
And then the New Republic/Resistance eventually have to team up with the old Empire to take Coruscant from them in IX and usher in a new era of peace
>But now it just seems like they're going to have "Starkiller Base 2"
It's going to be a giant ass Super Star Destroyer like the Freudian Nightmare that has a giant laser cannon and is powered by black holes.
>"Lucas/JJ/Filoni/Disney sucks and ruined star wars and raped my childhood!"
That is literally the first reply to any post that says they liked something by any of those people.
seriously, this place is a shit hole for discussing Star Wars.
>There needs to be a balance for healthy discussion IMO.
Healthy discussion? Most people here hate and bash Lucas, Abrams and Disney. They still like Filoni though for some reason.
Details from Michael Arndt’s screenplay from George Lucas’s story:
Kira and Sam (renamed Rey & Finn) were the main protagonists. Sam is depicted as white as shares a resemblance with Kira in some art.
The opening scene was a Rebel Cruiser hauling a dilapidated Imperial Star Destroyer, an ironic parallel to the opening of A New Hope.
Sam was the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa, he worked as a junker with Chewbacca and R2D2. Something would go wrong and he would crash on a Junk Planet, separated from Chewie and R2.
Kira and other scavengers on the planet would see this and begin scavenging the crashed Star Destroyer. The Junk Planet (Jakku in the film) was a partially flooded world, with dozens of pieces of concept art depicting its environment ranging from wetlands to glacier-like to industrial. Seriously, it’s what most of the concept art was focused on, for it to simply become a desert like Tatooine in the final film is disappointing.
The Macguffin for the film was the helmet and ashes of Darth Vader, originally in Luke’s possession, and later falling to the Jedi Killer.
The Jedi Killer (Kylo Ren) was a distinct character from Sam and/or the son of Han Solo. He wore as mask to literally impersonate Darth Vader, to prey upon Luke Skywalker psychologically. He hunted down Jedi and plundered Jedi temples. He wore multiple lightsabers from slain Jedi. He would ‘eat’ the solar energy from stars to gain power.
-A later story revision from JJ Abrams changed Sam to a storm trooper who witnesses Rebels being executed by firing squad or ventilated into space, and deciding a to rescue a nameless bounty hunter dubbed John Doe (Poe Dameron), who resembled Djimon Hounsou a bit, who has a floating droid companion.
Han Solo's place in the script changed around a lot. At one point he'd be found in an exotic city on a junk planet, take Kira & Sam to the jungle Felucia (seen in the prequels) to hunt aliens (Rothars).
Well this is /co/, Filoni has been responsible for giving us stuff we like for 8 years now, so naturally there's a bias towards him.
That is true, there's definitely a lot of negativity sometimes. I just think it's a lot worse in other places, and this place has certainly had plenty great discussions about all aspects of the franchise. For that alone, I like this place.
Can't we just talk about Broad City instead?
It's amazing to me that people can get so worked up over this. I mean, they're just goddamn movies, and most of them are not particularly well made or written or acted at that.
There's no reason to go around yelling about anything. It's like yelling and screaming about Flash Gordan.
So I've just caught up with the Vader/Star Wars comics, but why was Vader distracted on the planet in the Vader down arc? Who did he say how dare you too? Is ghost obi wan fucking with him?
I'm reminded somewhat vaguely of Legacy II
>He would ‘eat’ the solar energy from stars to gain power.
I'd nut if Llana and Abbi showed up in a Star War.
If the Raid guys can be in TFA, Tyler Perry can be in Star Trek, and Key & Peele in Fargo, then some Abbi & Llana can't be far away from Episode VIII or IX.
>Most people here hate and bash Lucas, Abrams and Disney.
This is 100% bullshit.
You can actually discuss Star Wars here and not have to face severe repercussions for liking something unpopular. When most people fly off the hinges, it's because of shitposters making things difficult. This is the only place I can discuss Star Wars and not have it turn into 100% shit. I would know, I've been all over the damn net.
>She's got a bangin' set of titties.
TFA is much like JJ's Trek movies.
A visually gorgeous spectacle with nothing to say, no point to make, no message to send, no reason for being, and no reason to give a shit about it in a decade.
All I said is that I disagree, so allow me to explain.
I feel the very similar to >>78870176. The pacing is the worst in this film. You have the beginning of the movie focused on the search for Luke Skywalker, that takes a grinding halt for the 1/4 of the movie until the last two minutes. In between, we switch between so many sequences so quickly that's it's like a Marvel movie.
Also, the editing is awful, which ties back into the pacing of the film. There is very little visual downtime in this film. People like to meme about Lucas 'So dense' statement, but that criticism can be levied against TFA too.
The film was being edited basically right until release, and it shows in the pacing and the soundtrack. Since the film was never locked to picture, the OST is the worst Star Wars soundtrack yet, with the Main Title being the weakest its ever been in 40 years since ANH.
Why is the film not well written? Starkiller Base, and the current state of the galaxy.
>B-but all that stuff will be in the sequels!
That doesn't excuse the poor world building they did. The rule of threes does not apply here. A third death star with another trench run was dumb. The only logical place for it to go now is to have a bigger Starkiller Base in IX.
Everyone want to shy away from politics because they think it wasn't done well in the PT. Well, you can't have a narrative that is partly driven by politics and ignore them. All the real answers to the state of the New Republic and why the Resistance exists are in the guidebooks.
I also don't think Lawrence Kasdan is a great writer. He complains for years after the ESB/ROTJ, writes a few things nobody cares about, and suddenly gets the opportunity to return to Star Wars years later only to write the OT film he wasn't involved in.
It means using a wrong to try and solve a wrong. Having the argument 'Well CREED didn't get criticized like TFA for having the same problems!' or 'Well the prequels were criticized too so any criticism for a new Star Wars movie just means Star Wars fans can't be pleased!' is using a wrong to defend a movie that has problems.
>Love it when she doesn't wear a bra on the show.
I love it when Abbi gets shit on
I enjoyed the humor as well. The exchange on Jakku between Kylo and Poe was funny to me, and this too.
Everyone want to shy away from politics because they think it wasn't done well in the PT. Well, you can't have a narrative that is partly driven by politics and ignore them.
>what is A New Hope
>people who like a movie admit it has flaws
>people who love the movie put their fingers in their ears and go 'NANANANANANA I CAN'T HEAR YOU'
Every internet argument ever. And before you ask 'well were are the explanations' don't act stupid because you know there are some very legitimate criticisms in this very thread.
There hasn't been a line on 4chan between "I liked the movie and it had flaws" and "it was dogshit because it had flaws"
there is an abhorent hate for the film that hinges on things like "soul" and "heart"
>The exchange on Jakku between Kylo and Poe was funny to me, and this too.
Jesus fucking christ. I bet this makes you giggle uncontrollably too.
I was the guy who posted the thing about how this threads are hell. This is what i'm talking about. Someone posts something and some other people needs to attack his opinion. We get it, it's not canon. It can still be discussed. Believe me, the only EU thing I know is KotOR and some comics.
>There hasn't been a line on 4chan between "I liked the movie and it had flaws" and "it was dogshit because it had flaws"
There is literally someone arguing that the movie was great but went a little too far in borrowing from Episode 4 in this thread. Ironically you're being the person who's irrationally trying to make this a black and white thing where anyone who dislikes some things in the movie must hate the whole movie for reasons that aren't actually legitimate.
Well lets look at the OT, anon. Each episode were movies with unique expansions to the heroes of the franchise. They didnt depend on the original Star Wars success to regain their fans' interest. They tried to be original in its story and expand its characters, its story, and its lore. It didnt come back to the original places too much and just moved on. To relate to repetition, some star wars fans did not like the repeated death star in ROTJ.
So when a movie comes out to solely repeat the past, not determined to create its own story, it comes out as a very disappointing movie. Some fans want to see a new expansion to their series, not a callback, similar to what the OT did, and the prequels attempted to do, with their ever expanding stories. Yes, the OT was great and all, but it attempted to define itsself. TFA just tried to remake a new hope, and with less success and appeal to some star wars fans. Basically, the theme of star wars is that Star Wars was supposed to introduce something new and magical with each movie. Some scenes are similar
muh potterybut they have different purposes. TFA mimicked Star Wars: a new hope, with the exact same purposes, and drastically similar plot lines. Its unfortunate and true, and that is why some anons, like myself, were sorely disappointed, but accepting of the movie. We know its trying to be like new hope, and its fun, but its not star wars fun, just repeated fun, if that makes any sense. Were not asking you to reconsider your opinion, but you cant dismiss that the movies were trying too hard to be like the OT, when star wars, ib my opinion, is supposed to be a consistent, but also expanding and fun story. Im not asking for star wars with depth, but just new chapters in the big arc of this simple galaxy, far, far away.
>Someone posts something and some other people needs to attack his opinion.
We've been invaded with trolls. We knew this would happen with TFA. However, they are slowly disappearing. Rebels is about to air again so, rest easy soon.
The guy that made the review that anon posted earlier literally mentions the flaws of TFA before he talks about the stuff he liked. I also think the movie has flaws, but the good outweighs the bad BY FAR. I was surprised by how much hate this movie received after I watched it in the theatre because for me it was the first time for years that I honestly enjoyed a new movie.
Sorry if you haven't been online enough to see that discussing TFA on 4chan is about as much fun as eating a bowl of nails. That "black and white mentality" is very much a real thing, and I have been called a shit eating pleb for liking this movie
I'd go elsewhere if posting non-anonymously was even worth it
>Rebels is about to air again so, rest easy soon.
We barely discuss Rebels in here since it's not very good in the first place. It's mostly the waifufags looking to get their rocks off to Hera and /ss/ fantasies.
>Basically, the theme of star wars is that Star Wars was supposed to introduce something new and magical with each movie.
You mean like a deserting stormtrooper, a villain who is drawn to the light side or completely new force abilities?
Plus the hype for TFA basically overshadowed it but things will eventually go back to normal only for it to return to this state before Rouge One. This is now going to be a yearly occurrence for these threads
Because nobody wants to watch the fucking Ahsoka show.
Filoni ruined it.
>a main character who lives on a shitty desert planet who then meets an old man to go on an adventure where they will become a jedi
>a rebe- I mean resistance droid hiding plans from the empi- first order
>a giant planet destroying space station
>a cocky pilot
>the saving of a captured resistance member from the first order
>the Jedi extinct
>the republic destroyed
>a small rag tag group of rebels led by Leia
>the old mentor character killed by the new black masked bad guy whom he had a past with
And many many more. I loved the movie but you can't just deny that it was taking very heavily from Episode 4. I even understand that they HAD to do that but necessity still doesn't mean that the movie playing so safe wasn't a bad thing. It suffers in that it will be remembered as being too similar to Episode 4 and possibly (due to the modern dialogue) not timeless like the other movies.
It wasn't a horrible episode, just boring. What I don't get is why after one or two dull episodes people were already screaming "SEASON 2 IS CRAP REBELS IS OVER FUCK THIS FUCK FILONI FUCK DISNEY"
That would help make the first episode slightly better. Sabine wanted to be friends with her and Ketsu needed her to get out of that situation and played the fool? Something like that. She'll probably seek revenge for failing her mission
>nothing new or innovative
Not being shit doesn't mean they are the same thing, for christs sake.
>I don't actually follow these threads but I'm gonna pretend I do
You obviously don't pay attention to threads either. Or you just got here.
When Rebels is in season, the thread is fucking slow.
Some pottery is fine but there comes a time when a franchise has to have an actual, REAL sequel. Look at Metal Gear for example, it never grew out of pottery and ended up shitty because of it. MG2 is just MG1. MGS1 is just MG2. MGS2 is just MGS1. MGS3 is MG1. MGS4 is MGS3 and MGS1 with a little bit of MGS2 in there. MGSPO was just MGS1. MGSPW was just MGSPO. MGSV was just MGSPW which was MGSPO which was MGS1 which was MG2 which was MG1.
Except MGS is hailed as one of the best video game series, and though people note the plot similarities they don't detract from its reception.
>So a fucking snail's pace because everyone is going to jump ship again?
That's exactly what I would like. The discussions are usually better minus random people like Star Wars dad appearing
>It suffers in that it will be remembered as being too similar to Episode 4 and possibly (due to the modern dialogue) not timeless like the other movies.
It's way too soon to say that already. We would definitely think differently of ANH now, if they would've never made other Star Wars movies. I guarantee that Episode VIII and IX will change the way we view TFA for better or worse.
Anyway speaking of Rebels we're getting a new trailer for the second half of season 2 this week (if not next week) Freddie talks about it on his twitch stream.
jrtwitch1 (archive fallout friday 16:40)
Rebels has been airing on Wednesdays so I think its probably going to come back on the 21st or 28th.
>I would rather our threads go at a snails pace rather than 200+ posts of shitposting and memes.
But when they move at the snail's pace, they're usually just people projecting their mommy issues onto the show with their desires to fuck Hera and see Ezra get raped.
That's because Kojima keeps retconning the story for his own ego.
"Hey players you know how you fought and beat Big Boss at the end of MG1?"
"IT WASN'T HIM IT WAS HIS PHANTOM! AREN'T I CLEVER?"
>people want MORE OLD SHIT instead of going into the future
But they wont. People don't want interesting and new Star Wars movies. They want rehashed stories about the heroes and events of the OT.
Any interesting and creative stories outside of that are going to be regulated strictly to comics and books, where casuals wont be bothered by them.
> the red and blue light on Kylo's face was amazingly subtle
Anyone else triggered?
Stuckmann can be full of it sometimes, but ohh, don't criticise me, I'm just grandstanding my opinions!
Anon, I loved those parts, but they were shoved aside for accidentally stumbling upon a wise old mentor, defeating the first order's starkiller base, and another trench run to blow up the base. They even had a rescue mission, although instead of accidentally stumbling upon the first order's base, it was purposeful, but still repeated. Albeit, with a different ending, we again see the mentor dying.
I also liked how there was a map of Luke in BB-8, but that was quickly resolved with the appearance of r2-d2 having the plans. i expected Kylo Ren or Phasma to have the plans, but that hope was quickly shelved and a potentially exciting story arc was overlooked and resolved too quickly in sacrifice for the nostalgia moments. Played too safe. And again, Finn's arc had a lot of potential, but they barely went into it. They should have focused more on his feelings, if he was confident in his decision due to being a new stormtrooper, or if he had a secret guilt for killing his comrades.
This is unrelated to new stuff/repeated stuff, but in extension to new story arcs, but i never expected Rey to be a pro-engineer and pilot if all she did was collect and clean scrap for a living.
So, besides the last paragraph, I feel if thats evidence to why the force awakens played too much into nostalgia rather than making it Star Wars again.
Explain how the substance was different from the entire OT, and ill be willing to change my opinion. Im not saying you're wrong, or im right, but I might have missed something. But, wasn't the substance the same with another base threatening the galaxy, and other main plot details? Like, i explained to the other anon, the new plot points were poorly developed in favor of the new hope storyline. Im still open for change of heart, though.
> well anything
I would say it was functionally executed. It was certainly not an example of perfect editing. The pacing is a big gripe. And the writing? No one likes starkiller base.
>i never expected Rey to be a pro-engineer and pilot if all she did was collect and clean scrap for a living.
This is a lot of people's critiques of Rey, but she says things like that she's a pilot, or that its her master's ship, or whatever that people seem to ignore.
>like Rey, Sabine and Ahsoka's characters
>none of them have big titties, not even adult Ahsoka
>literally only big titty canon waifu is that one jedi master
why is this allowed?
Whenever I think about the Phasma/Nines deal I think of how Zoroark was supposed to be the cool one in Pokemon Black/White... Because Nintendo said he was going to be. But then everyone ended up liking Scrafty instead and all that fuss over Zoroark was for nothing
True. I get she's a nobody, and she had dreams of being a rebellion pilot or whatever, but at least one visual scene would've helped that. Maybe the bloatfish alien guy telling the scavengers to work on his ship(the falcon)? I dunno, but I guess I can look past that point now.
So i wonder... are any of you anons just here because you like Revels? Like is there anyone here who's just here because they haven't seen or liked any of the movies and their first experience is this shit for babies and TFA?
>dialogue and the humor were perfect though
If by perfect you mean one long drawn out wink and nod at the audience, yeah, perfect. Anyone can get a laugh out of breaking the 4th wall, that doesn't mean its good.
Rewatching The Clone Wars, I completely forgot how bad they were at showing how many troops or characters they had running around.
Shadow of Umbara is a good example. They make it seem like were following about 100 or so clone's, but one shot makes it clear there numbers way higher. Oh, and there's the Citadel arc, where they kept adding, or taking away from the expendable troopers, this even extended to R2s battle droids when they forgot one was destroyed in a previous episode, only to bring it back in the next.
There's a scene where Rey puts on an old pilot helmet, and looks up at the sky. Most people just right that scene off, but I think it was supposed to clue us in on how badly she wants to fly and shit.
I enjoyed Rebels for what is is, but really there's very little to talk about it other than being hopeful for the future and sour for the
past my sweet sweet Tua
So I welcome larger Star Wars discussion, so long as it isn't people bitching about the same things over and over and over and over and over again.
So there's really no reason for me to be in these threads at this point.
If I understand you correctly, the reason why characters that get killed/removed appear later in the series is because TCW did not premier in chronological order. Google the list.
the whole sequence of Rey's home is supposed to clue us into a number of things.
She's clearly a fan of the Rebellion, having made her own doll of a pilot, and having an actual flight helmet, and it's hard to think that she got these things while on Jakku, though the helmet might very well just be from there. It's a clue in that she probably has some connection to a pilot from the Rebellion, or is, at the very least, someone that wants to fly.
I think thats stretching it. There were lots of AT-AT wreckage there that implied a big battle. And there was a star destroyer as well, so it must've been easy to get all the war relics as a scavenger.
I come here to talk about a whole plethora of Star Wars materials, regardless of what it is, so long as there is actual discussion and not the same type of trolling I've seen lately. The threads now are a little calmer and most of the regulars are returning.
I just can't fap to extremely off-model shit. I don't mind if the ass or breasts are a little bigger. But most of the time when it's off model, it's to the point of being grotesque.
I didn't explain myself clearly. It's not about named characters, it's the amount of troops they have in the episode.
Like in Shadow of Umbara, they make it seem like the amount of walkers are almost depleted after the initial landing, but a later shot has at least 20, and no other shot has this many again.
In the Citadel, they actually forgot a few of the expendable characters in the last episode, since the only characters that boarded the Gunship were named characters, they forgot a few of the clones that were clearly still alive.
I think the reason that Rey's character offends so much is not that people can't believe a woman like her exists, but that they think JJ has some malicious intent in putting her in the story.
I mean, we couldn't put a label on TPM Anakin apart from "literally space Jesus", but he's also ridiculously gifted.
true, but the pilot doll is a key thing there. all the stuff they scavange through are wrecks, and star wars ships don't tend to wreck themselves in a salvageable way unless you're a main character. Rey must have seen a rebellion pilot in the flight suit, or had it descrbied in detail, to know what it looked like. charred corpses wouldn't do that for ya.
I remembered when that game was announced and right after the starters, they showed Zorua and Zoroark and everyone was saying how they were obvious attempts at being Lucario clones. They tried to pull a Poochy by making him seem cool as hell but it was too in your face.
Like i think the design for Phasma's character was literally "Like Boba Fett but Cooler" and it came at the cost of making the other side characters less interesting so as to not overshadow her.
In ROTJ, when Palpatine is directly tempting Luke, he looks at his black-gloved, robot hand - as in, the part of him that physically resembles Vader. That was just as blunt.
To be fair they have a point because 1: SJW shit is 'in' nowdays so a company as big as Disney would push it, 2: Disney has pushed it (look at Marvel comics today), 3: JJ Abrams did say some remarks to the effect of "Wow there are too many white men in movies so I wanted to make a movie with black people and women in it", and 4: they pushed Phasma and Rey being female really hard even though Star Wars has always had strong female characters.
That was blunt because it wasn't any deeper than Luke realizing that he was turning into his father and doing the same shit his father did (brashly going into battle with anger and losing your body parts as well as your soul). The scene with Kylo had no reason to be so blunt.
>even though Star Wars has always had strong female characters.
Aside from Aunt Beru, Princess Leia and Mon Mothma, there are no other named female characters in the OT.
Beru dies, Mon Mothma has five minutes of screen time, and Princess Leia is carrying the whole show for the entire gender.
You mean Darkness on Umbara?
I never got that feeling. The show the walkers getting shrekt, but that doesn't mean they've lost them all.
Rewatching the end Citadel Rescue, and yeah only named characters board. But since I didn't watch the entire thing, maybe they Clones the freed got killed off during the escape and I don't remember. You're probably right.
I really hate to be -that guy- but there have been way too many instances of people defending TFA with logical fallacies in here since it came out. Now I'm not on either side, I loved it but thought it could have done some things better, but I just think we need to all go over this image so we can have better discussion without resorting to arguments like 'Well this movie also had problems so that excuses TFA's problems!'
Finn by default
> Poe is this ace pilot who knows jack shit about operating as a commando, but still manages to pull it off.
> Secures the vital info with BB-8 and tells him to sod off so as to avoid capture by FO
> Sees an oldfag rebel get BTFO by Kylo Ren. What does he do? He Shoots First!
> Managed to resist a brand new sith mind trick for a little while with no force training whatsoever.
> Took a Tie Fighter against a Star Destroyer, and would have won if Fuckboy didnt stop shooting for the sake of exposition.
> By the sheer force (heh) of his Balls (perhaps made of mandalorian iron) not only survives the crash landing, but a subsequent FO attack on said planet, returning to the Resistance, and saving Finn and Rey from being BTFO by the FO in the cantina.
Im not gonna mention Starkiller base at this point, because Based Poe needs no more explanation.
I never said I hated it, only that I loved it and admitted it's problems and find that people defending vehemently with logical fallacies are giving the movie's defenders a bad name.
>Finn was supposed to be the new nope for black Star Wars fans
>Instead he'll forever remembered as that guy who got his ass beat by TR-8R
>IT'S OVER OBI-WAN, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
>Lol, that's simply not true.
But will you agree i
this will begin to make things right.
You don't have to look far around these parts to find plenty of disaffected, insecure young nerds who are threatened by damn near everything tht isn't a straight, white male. It's not pretty, it really isn't.
Why do people even still give a shit about the race of characters? Unless you're getting a black guy to play Hitler who gives a fuck about being 'exclusive' or 'inclusive' towards races? Why do black people even care about being represented in media like they can't emotionally link with white characters? I have never had a problem emotionally linking with black characters.
>no other named female characters
But in Star Wars, doesn't everything have a name? What about that pilot with a man's voice in ROTJ?
Yeah, but that gossip stopped pretty soon after he was cast. For the longest time the gossip was that he would be a caretaker for Rey, watching over her.
Instead he's just some guy who has the map and dies. That's it.
>I have never had a problem emotionally linking with black characters.
My dad repeatedly referred to John Boyega as "The nigger they gave Star Wars"
You don't get to ignore race and racism because you're not a racist.
To be fair we live in an age where people SHOULDN'T care about race/gender/sexualiyy but still do. And I mean that on both sides. Companies saying 'Look at us! Look at us! We have a gay/black/female/etc person in our movie!' gets annoying so it's understandable that people would be so tired of it that when a company that has pushed it tries to make a big point out of them using black and woman actors they lash out.
>Instead he's just some guy who has the map and dies. That's it.
There's people who saw the movie and still assumed Tekka was taking care of Rey, even when it was clear she was a loner sold to Unkar Plutt.
Comic relief janitors are great though
Guess what? Until we're a bunch of weird transhuman robots living in the Matrix where you can simply 'turn off' racism there will be racist people. It's like making a big deal over people spitting in food at fast food places. It will always happen so there's no reason to further divide people or make them feel guilty for only a few of their race (which in itself is ironically racist) and make them think it's a big deal.
That's not racist though. That's just the fact that more white males want to be actors than anyone else. It's like complaining about women not being in STEM classes when most women are taking women's studies.
>cowardly guy who grows into a hero and bluffs his way to staging a rescue op for his friend and duels a force user for a minute
>durr hes a janitor so lame
for fucks sake
Well, since we've completely stopped discussing Star Wars, lets bring it back on track.
Was Queen Amidala right to push the Chancellor into Republic aid for Naboo? Keep in mind the Trade Federation's blockade of the planet was perfectly legal.
>That's just the fact that more white males want to be actors than anyone else.
That's not true at all. Roles are routinely limited by ethnicity, which limits exposure for PoC actors, which predisposes white actors to greater prestige and opportunity.
>It's like complaining about women not being in STEM classes when most women are taking women's studies.
Women are institutionally and socially discouraged from pursuing STEM fields.
>The blockade was legal, the invasion wasn't. Amidala had every right to try and get the senate to intervene.
Whats even weirder is the that two Jedi Knights sent as ambassadors were apparently not good enough to testify to the Senate that there was indeed an illegal war being waged.
She wasn't wrong, but there was a lot more evidence she had at her disposal. Heck, why didn't she have Qui-Gon and Obi-wan, the two Jedi Knights Valorum himself sent to Naboo to diplomatize the situation show up on her senate podium to testify against the Federation?
But of course, the point of that whole scene is to show how easily Sheev could manipulate the lolita geisha on the throne and get his way. Oh heavens, such a despicable villain is he.
I bet they refused to pay space sales tax. Star Wars is a universe of fantasy dressed up as sci fi, and if to be learned anything from DnD you don't fuck with merchants. They make 100% profit on every item!
>It could've been any planet. Sheev just ordered Gunray to blockade Naboo in particular because it would set up his rise to power.
Because as a senator he had minimal power and the chancellor was mostly a ceremonial position.
So he had to drum up a war to get himself chancellor, to get the chancellor position more power.
It's all very elaborate.
Naboo didn't do anything. Palpatine used the outrage over the taxation of trade routes to persuade the Trade Federation that boycotting Naboo, conveniently his home planet, would affect some sort of change. This was all in a move to create a paradigm shift in the Senate that would move power from the Chancellor to the bureaucracy, showing the Chancellor and the Senate as weak and paralyzed by procedure in the pursuit of action to the point that the office needed a fresh, powerful face running things. Palpatine was from Naboo, which helped his cause of getting elected as Chancellor on account of sympathy vote.
Does it bother anyone else that we didn't see that scene of Kylo Ren lighting up his saber in the snow from the first trailer? I wanted to see that in its full context and it would have fit perfectly well in the Rey/Finn duel.
The Jedi weren't supposed to have been sent in the first place. Senate diplomats would have been sent first, which would be followed by procedural check ins with the Senate. In the case of a catastrophic breakdown in negotiations, the Jedi would go to force a settlement. Valorum essentially gave the middle finger to procedure by sending the Jedi in first because sending diplomats would have legitimized the Trade Federation's actions, "legal" or not.
Not to mention the Senate had been kept in the dark about whether or not the Trade Federation's actually having blockaded and invaded Naboo was true. This is discovered in the Senate meeting on Coruscant, where Lott Dodd and Aks Moe said that the Senate first needed to set up a committee that would ascertain the truth of the allegations. Sidious did mention that he had the Senate bogged down in procedure, after all
The Jedi testifying on the matter would have opened up a whole nother can of worms regarding Valorum's bypassing constitutional procedure.
I finally watched the first episode of Rebels and I thought it was pretty good. The scene where Kanan reveals he's a Jedi was hype.
How come the model they used for 30 seconds in Rebels for Obi-Wan was better looking than the one they used for all of TCW, yet the Wookies look like literal shit?
Kenobi's hawtness was more important than making the wookies look good. I think they had their priorities right.
>How come the model they used for 30 seconds in Rebels for Obi-Wan
Rebels budget is considerably lower, so they changed the art style and such.
I miss the lighting of TCW though. I hope Disney gives the show a bit higher budget next time around/
I really like that the cinematography style is literally "every frame a painting".
See OP for pic related.
But back to what you're saying, if the lighting boost that S2 had is an indication, then it *should* keep improving.
They did, but then they almost doubled the episode count as well so I think each episode only is getting a bit more cash than it was in s1. The real benefit is that as the show runs on longer their model library will be slowly increasing, freeing budget up from making new models to use towards making everything look good.
Anyone else watch Auralnauts here? Scumbag Obi is gr8.
Bonus points if you read
Darths & Droids[/spoilers]
Lee was honestly one of the most manly and incredible actors of our time. I'm not even talking about his career, but his life before acting.
Guy was a soldier, spy, professional nazi hunter,
rumored anti-occultist task force, etc...
You should see his commentary in RotK, he hinted more than once to have stabbed a man in the back and heard the sound of his dying.
Peter Jackson has a better one, saying something to the effect of.:
>We were doing this scene and I was telling Christopher the kind of sound I wanted him to make when he was stabbed and then he stopped me and said "Peter, do you know what sound a man makes when you stab him in the back?" and I told him "No."
>"Well I do."
>And that's when I remembered that a lot of the things he did during world war two are still classified.
Is Poe Dameron the most instantly likable character in Star Wars? I already loved that guy after seeing just the first ten minutes of the movie.
no one pays enough attention to school teachers to see if they are favoring the scientific interest of boys at the expense of girls and being misleading about the career options available to their girls due to thinking 'I just don't think it would suit her'
There's no actual Black Squadron, though. Poe's called Black Leader as a special designation since he has command of several individual squadrons. So he's basically Red Leader, Blue Leader, etc. at the same time.
No doubt it's already been discussed here, but one of the niggles I have with TFA (I still think it was great), is the way it implies Han's never noticed how powerful the bowcaster is before. It's as though he's seeing it for the first time when he remarks that he's 'got to get one of those things,' and asks if he can use it on Takodana.
Just seemed like a weird exchange for two guys that have been pretty much brothers for forty years.
>Star Wars not nominated for a single Golden Globe
Holy shit I want to murder someone right now
>Best Original Script
>Best Actor: Adam Driver
>Best Actress: Daisy Ridley
>Best Supporting Actor: Harrison Ford
If you don't think it has a serious chance at all of those you are fucking retarded
It's happened a few times. I hate to say it, but Williams's prime is behind him now. TFA's score was good but not fantastic, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him not be nominated for it.
Obi-Wan's voice in her vision and the fact that she has a similar accent to Obi-Wan's.
>3: he had tons of comics and novels written about him in the EU
He got comics and novels written about him because people thought he was cool, not the other way around.
He hasn't won an Oscar for best score since Schindler's List. I was floored, I could've sworn he'd won a few more times after that, but he seriously hasn't won an Oscar in over 2 decades
TFA's score wasn't as great because
1. Abrams works differently than Lucas which meant Williams was only getting scenes individually to score, not the whole movie like with Lucas.
2. He also couldn't use the LSO because of this, so the music is noticeably less "full" with instruments.
The music itself is fine, and there are several great new pieces. But its nothing like the quality we got with the prequel soundtracks.
Right here. Just managed to get the Sheev last night.
Now I'm debating whether to next go for Old Dakka or the FO Officer (for those team shenanigans I've been hearing about so much). Barring that, I've gotten most of the peeps everyone says are worth having (Luminara, Dooku, Phasma)
Very grindy, but a pretty cool roster of characters.
I'm reading that the cutoff date was December 10, but apparently that's not directly tied to actual release date and you're able to submit the movie for award consideration even before it's released. Revenant for example didn't get a nationwide release until the 25th, and its premiere was on the 16th.