Is Spider-Gwen's popularity/reason for her own ongoing entirely due to her costume?
On a similar note, is this the same reason why Gwenpool's popular?
>is this the same reason why Gwenpool's popular?
Gwenpool is popular for one reason anon.
It's her booty
Can someone explain to me why Spider-Gwen's costume is a fan favorite while Spider-Woman's is an affront unto God?
It's just as skin tight as Jessica's, and it even does the same thing in its design where it sexually emphasizes Gwen's body, with its design emulating a revealing evening gown's top.
It's literally just the hoodie, isn't it?
It's pretty much the hoodie and the slippers.
Plus Gwen's costume has a full mask like Spider-Man's, while Jessica (and Julia and Anya) only covered the top half of their faces and leaves their hair and mouths exposed.
>Spider-Woman's costume is/always has ugly as fuck.
It's had a lot of subpar artists take wacks at it.
It's not exactly easy to pull off, and the few instances where it is pulled off are rare as fuck.
That said, new costume is boring shit.
Oh no, Spider-Gwen oppresses women, better give her a shitty jacket costume.
Not just her latest solo. She's been drawn primarily by cheesecake artists or in a cheesecake way for quite a long time now.
Maleev drew her costume as body paint, Cho drew her the way he always draws women, etc. You could draw the costume on the left with the body on the right and vice versa, but people associate the old costume with sexiness.
I dunno, I'm not a character designer.
Maybe make the yellow parts white and the red darker? And maybe make the net lighter blue.
Again, I'm not a character designer. Just as that guy above me said, those colors look gaudy.
Yellow and red is an eyesore. And what is up with the triangles? It's like that had no idea what to do with her costume and slapped on some shapes. also her mask is stupid. Lowest teir mask.
>still no gwenverine ongoing yet
Get with it marvel.
What else do we need? Gwendevil? Iron Gwen? Gwen Cage? Baron Gwen Von Strucker?
Lets see some ideas.
>everything has to be black, no color allowed
The red and yellow color scheme and the hourglass like markings are meant to look like poisonous spiders.
There was a character who had costume that looked like a darker version of Jessica's for reasons I don't think were ever explained.
I mean it's better to look at than the red and yellow but but it still just screams "generic" to me you know? The gloves and boots are just standard superhero shit and the patterns don't stand out at all. They could use that design on some random chick because nothing about it really says "Spider-Woman" more than it says "this is a super hero"
>I don't know
My post you just linked to gave several reasons why its bad.
Flash's designs really over power yellow with red. On Jess yellow takes front and center along with red instead of just emphasizing a few parts.
That really depends on the armor for the same reason as the Flash. I never really liked IM's older armors for that reason.
Yeah, I guess you are right. Other than the little nets, there is nothing spidery about it. It feels generic.
Some dude above said the triangles are supposed to look like poisonus spider's, but they really look more like random triangles.
Gwen's costume isn't all that spider-looking either but at least it's a damn good costume.
Spider-Gwen is probably the perfect example of fad character. She has existed for a year now, and I can't tell you what her personality is or what she has done. She's either the super anxious and social introvert in her own book, or the in-your-face cool girl who is taking selfies and acting all hip outside her book. Months after her creation, people were already speculating that Sony could be making a film about her. But about a year later, nothing has been done to make her stand out as a character. She's just a nice costume for girls to cosplay, but that's it. She is an idea that seems fresh, but turns out has no potential.
she just finally started wearing a sports bra
My LCS always used to say "Nobody stays dead in comics except Bucky, Jason Todd and Gwen Stacy". And yet, all three have come back, and are probably more popular now than they have ever been before. Hell, Jason Todd was voted to be killed off by fans, and now I think fans would riot if he was killed again.
Is this the underlying gimmick that these companies are slowing catching onto? Bringing back dead characters = massive sales boost?
>point of the spider's body is right between her breasts
>back legs of the spider point at her crotch.
Well, yeah. I mean, her universe seemed to have potential, but then they had to go and make "SHIELD and Captain America" and I gave up. Really? You're gonna start making SHIELD and Cap as top dogs in a universe you could make very fresh and new?
Bucky was brought back by a bucky fanboy. Spider-Gwen was made because almost everyone Peter knows has an AU or three where they became Spider-person but it would be harder to get a bit of extra drama out of, say, Spider-Betty
I doubt any of Spider-Gwens fans ever really gave a shit about Gwen Stacy beyond indignation at yet another love interest getting fridged
>She has existed for a year now, and I can't tell you what her personality is or what she has done.
>But about a year later, nothing has been done to make her stand out as a character.
>She's just a nice costume for girls to cosplay, but that's it.
>She is an idea that seems fresh, but turns out has no potential.
You could say the same about Carol Danvers and America Chavez and Jane Foster Thor
I have a theory. The more people talk about a dead character, the more likely they will get brought back. Both in and outside universe.
For example, when Captain America died in Civil War? Nobody would shut up about it in universe. Every comic would keep hammering in that he's dead and they can't move on, so what do you know, he comes back. This applies to the real world too because people constantly just bring up Gwen, Bucky and Jason.
But it seems like characters like Mettle and Wallflower will just stay dead because neither Marvel nor the fans are talking bout them anymore.
Cassie got lucky cause of the Ant-Man film, as the YA fandom seems to pretend that Vol 1 never existed.
And you know what's even worse? Characters like Kate Bishop, Carol, Chavez, and whomever the other popular females are right now won't change at all as characters. They don't learn any life lessons or grow as people because they are always supposed to be right in their own books. There is no story with them because we're supposed to listen to every word of wisdom they say.
At least Kamala actually learns life lessons.
Spider-Gwen is a rebellious teen that doesn't wanna disappoint her cop dad, likes making music but hates her band's frontliner (MJ) who is a stuck up bitch, and tries to mask her clinical depression so that people won't guilt trip her about how she treats herself.
Carol is a soldier first, superhero second person with a sadistic streak that has only a few friends due to amnesia fuckery
America Chavez is a self-serving, pompous gay tourist who cares more about seeing cool shit and being right than helping the common folk
Jane Foster Thor is a deranged, insecure loon with a martyr complex that would rather die than go back to being a civilian
I always liked julia carpenter best
i mean shit, she inspired venom. this isn't just me liking the 90s iron man series
It probably doesn't help that most people don't see many brightly colored spiders.
I mean people know they exist and we've all seen pictures of them but most of us will never have stumbled onto one in the bathroom late at night or been warned by our parents never to poke them because those are the dangerous variety.
Massively increasing the amount of black in the costume would probably make it a lot more generic but it would also bring it much more inline with the dangerous spiders most people are familiar with.
Her exboyfriend Shroud apparently went evil at some point and was becoming the head of the criminal underworld on the West Coast, rivaling Kingpin and Owl
So Julia flew out to see Shroud but got kidnapped to be used as a pawn against him
She's still blind but she didn't seem to use any of her powers. No psi-webs, no spider strength, no precognition.
It decentuates the boobies and the butt aka the places women feel self conscious about.
Unlike some other spider prefix characters she doesn't have muscles which is also a big nono for female readers.
The hoodie is a nice touch but the pink shadows around the eyes are what is used to give the impression that it is a woman and not a non-muscular man.
But it is more than the costume, it is also the crap art style and making Gwen into a hipster piece of shit just like most other female aimed comics.
costume's cool enough to interest people. I'm mostly reading it just because I want something different than the usual expectation. I don't want to read the same thing over again. It's different enough to surprise me and keep me interested.