No. They've already finished Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman is currently filming and JL starts filming in like 3 months. Sage because there's already like 3 DC shitposting threads you could have posted this in.
>>78841110 Pretty much, except they've already got two other movies under lens and another probably ready to go.
It'll be another rolling reboot like after Catwoman and Superman Returns failed and they had to abort the planned crossovers with Batman a decade ago. It's not necessarily the end of the world if the other movies make money, but they'd have to make a lot because they'll be paying down the losses from this. They'd just recast a lot assuming it succeeded.
>>78841160 With low budget estimates falling at $200m it has to make in excess of $400m just to break even. When you take Snyders 10% of the gross into account - the same 10% he got from Man of Steel - it's even worse. I wouldn't put too much faith in the idea that they cast a movie with an (at the time of signing) A-list co-star and the same lead and supporting cast from the previous movie and somehow managed to reduce costs by $30m either; it's more likely they've spent $250m+, maybe before you even get to Affleck's appearance fees. He was reported to have received in excess of $12m just for a 10 second cameo in Suicide Squad, so fuck knows what he's getting for this.
>>78841241 JL won't start if this bombs. They will blame Affleck if that's the case, and they will end his appearances as a result.
>>78841276 TASM2 didn't make money. It spent too much on production and marketing and didn't make a big enough gross as a result. That's the whole reason they went for another reboot.
>>78841276 >WB will make money Not if their marketing budget is egregiously huge.
This movie is their attemp at breaking in a new business venture (A cinematic universe) in a big way, if they aren't able to make a big splash, doubt anything of the proposed movies (Shazam, WW, Flash) would follow. They are betting all.
>they would have stopped with making the mcu. But Iron Man 2 happened. Thing is, plans change, Marvel Studios was a small studio with no other goal on sight, WB on the other hand has the means to pull the breaks if something is wrong. They already did it with Green Lantern. Man of Steel happened fast due the legal needs, and as you can see its sequel was retooled to have Batman in the forefront. You can bet that if it fails WB will jump off the trainwreck fast.
And business dictates you don't kill your brand image. Failing to create a cinematic universe with the whole DC property at your disposal will do just that.
Think of it like the situation with Marvel and Fox over F4. Fox just lost over 100 million and suffered a HUGE embarrassment entirely out of pride. Losing Daredevil only to have Marvel create ANOTHER smash hit with it, something Fox couldn't do, ANOTHER black eye.
>BvS doesn't do well critically >reduces from 2 films a year to 1 I'd be all smiles desu Marvel films are already wearing thin so it'd be nice to slow down. Although it may take a while to get to the interesting and non-JL stuff this way
>>78843052 >"I'm going to take my whole family out to see Civil War just to make sure that the DC Menace never tops a Marvel Production. I'm telling all my friends to do the same with their families as well!"
>>78841110 Time Warner will make it´s money back on the lego game so they don´t care if yet another Warner Brothers movie flopps. Hell the way things are going they may even accept the Disney or Fox bid.
>>78842410 There was a Batman/Superman movie planned for 2007; this would either have been Nolan/Singer's versions, or a reboot of both franchises. Since only Nolan made money (but ironically, less gross than Singer, whose budget was 50% higher), they carried on with Nolan instead. The fact they were considering a crossover as far back as 2004 (which is on record) suggests that had Catwoman not flopped they'd have crossed over with her as well - the obvious one being Batman/Catwoman with Nolan Batman.
Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman are both either under lens or in post production, I really haven't been keeping up. There are set photos and everything. The first JL movie start date is after the BvS release, presumably to get a last-minute chance to make changes to things audiences bitch about. Low-end estimates for the BvS budget are $200m; but Man of Steel cost $225m in 2013 (equivalent to $229m in early 2016 at 1.9% inflation), and in line with the studio's last superhero budget sequence at adjusted prices (the Nolan Batman movies) a 12.5% rise between each is expected. That would put the budget here (presumably without Affleck's fees, which are likely to be considerable given that he signed as a recent Oscar winner) around $260m. Affleck's cameo in Suicide Squad was rumored last year to have earned him $12.5m, which is a figure that seems in-line with his expected earnings as an A-list male star, but could, admittedly, be made up, or include his BvS fees as well. As he costs a lot of money (which is not in question - he isn't working for scale here), and has brought his own pet writer into the BvS project *after* shooting began, cost overruns and audience hate can neatly be pinned on him - meaning nobody has to work with him again, and he's out of his contract. If the audience really doesn't like him (and they didn't like Clooney, who was far more personable at the time he took the role), he's gone. That would mean putting off the JL movie until they recast.
>>78842410 Zack Snyder's earnings in 2013 were widely reported at about $68m, which is roughly 10% of the MoS gross, which was the only project he worked on that could possibly have paid him that much, and was released in 2013. It's possible that had the film made more he would have received less than 10% or more than 10% of the total worldwide gross, but elevators/gross points are far from unusual, and tend to be more generous either if the project is not expected to ever make money (which MoS wouldn't have, had half the rights and therefore earnings remained with the Siegel estate, as they had through production of MoS), or if the figure in question is considered to bring something essential to the project and is expected to push up earnings as a result.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 had a total budget (including marketing) estimated at $330m by industry professionals; it had a production budget estimated at $200m prior to release (though the true figure is likely in the leaked Sony emails somewhere, and without looking I can tell you is much, much higher than $200m - nobody ever spends $130m on marketing one movie, and again, the previous movie cost more; it's likely that the $200m figure was part of the damage control by Sony to stop their investors getting nervous about cost overrun).
Despite making $708,996,336 worldwide, ASM2 would have paid around $355m in distribution costs (because that's what the theater model costs - no, it doesn't come back to the studio even if it goes out through theater chains that are part of their group, they have overheads like staff and rent and so on) and would then have to pay marketing and production costs from the rest. 708-355=353, 353-330=20. $20m for a three-year stake of in excess of $300m is a pathetic return on investment, and BluRay/home video sales failed to make up for it, on top of which the movie was panned by critics and lukewarm with audiences.
>>78845942 Honestly its just easier to talk shit about the DCEU because its still relatively nonexistent and judged by a single installment. MCU has more under its belt and had a better start with Iron Man 1. However MCU films get a spike in criticism when introducing a new hero
>>78845942 Its easy to shit on DC though because their production outright said that this movie needs to make a lot of money Its kind of hard to root for them when they are so very obviously playing from a moneymaking perspective instead of a quality perspective
I mean DC needs to make a movie with an unproven property that isn't an active, flaming turd like Green Lantern.
Moving away from the Marvel style of comedy-action was the smartest choice they could make. It's clear they can't do the same thing the MCU does, Green Lantern is what happens when Warner Brothers tries to do "light fun."
I don't know if Dong of Justice is going to be any good, but it at least doesn't have the flaming, screaming alarm signs that Green Lantern had.
>>78846148 The unknown factor is really helping Marvel. What I hope DC does later on is introduce lesser known supporting characters like The Question, Doctor Fate, Red Tornado, Blue Beetle, or whoever to keep things fresh.
>>78846113 literally all of my normal friends/co-workers are looking forward to BvS. Even Chris Evans is wanting to see it. Only /co/, /tv, &, /v/ thinks there is this battle taking place in the shadows between Distributors/Comic Publishers & moviegoers don't care who's producing. The Audience isn't a bunch of brand loyalist cucks like said boards.
>>78841746 Are you implying the movie won't make half a billion dollars? Cause that is a retarded implication. Look I know this board gravitates toward the young side but as a middle aged man, let me tell you that everyone is gonna see this. You know how your generation grew up with Marvel in it's face? Mine grew up with DC everywhere. I think you are naive and have no point of reference and are only taking your own age demographic into account when you make these unfounded claims.
>>78849452 as a not middle aged man, I think we can say that this movie is going to make a lot of fucking money. Doesn't matter if it's shit or not. I'm not saying the new Star Wars is shit but half the people who've seen it haven't seen any other Star Wars film, not being elitist, I'm just saying this shit snowballs and it's fucking batman and super man in one film. Nobody cares about wondy.
>>78849528 I think females and young boys WILL care about Wondy as well. I think we are actually going to see Wondy's recognition and popularity explode after her solo movie. She's already a decently big icon but this exposure will push her over the edge.
>>78849579 They might "WILL" after this movie, but for this movie to make money people have to care about it BEFORE they see the movie, basically. That's why Batman and Superman are headlining this shit and not Batman v. Wondy or Wondy v. Supes.
And honestly, being an icon doesn't always equate to ticketsales and merch sales. I also almost feel that maybe for AD 2016 Wondy's image is too clean for mainstream women to care, look at how they eat Harley Quinn up. I know that there's more tastes and whatnot but these movies are going for the big audiences. But we will see. I am curious to see how things will end up.
>>78849757 People who pretend to be into geek culture and batfags are basically super hero cinema's target audience, guy. Superhero movies and tv series are literally what would-be pseudo-"nerds" consume instead of actual comic books.
The superman reboot barely squeaked by, story wise This will be an uphill battle for this movie, and to be quite honest mainline DC has always had an uphill battle, storywise
>>78842591 >>78842519 what is this the "Producers"? why does crap keep getting bought? Is there a threshold where after your consumer base gets big enough, people without taste outnumber everyone else?
>>78850800 As I recall it, the kids at the hospital saw that Ghostbusters was being filmed near them, and so they put up these posters on the window hoping that the actors would see them. They all visited, and because it'd be shitty to deny a sick child a picture because they're not photogenic, they probably just took a picture with all of them.
>>78841160 If it has a god awful reception, which seems kind of unlikely even though they're kind of marketing it strangely, they could just go Flashpoint rather early on or something. But I imagine they would prefer to save that for quite a bit later when actor's contracts expire or some such so they can recast if some get too old or something.
>>78841110 Even if it fails (it won't), DC still has Suicide Squad to close the summer. Which is a movie with Harley Quinn in it.
Mark my words, come the holidays Harley Quinn will be a worldwide cinematic sex symbol, fit to mention alongside the likes of Marylin Monroe and Ellen Ripley.
Even if everything else, literally everything else in DC's slate fails, there is no way in hell Harley won't get a solo film. And it will happen before Marvel makes a solo film with a female lead. And it will unquestionably be the first female superhero film (and even the first action film) with a solo female star billing to make a billion dollars. And then it will have sequals.
Again, that's IF every other DC movie fails. Which is nonsense. Man of Steel was already a runaway hit in theatres and it only gained more popularity once the rest of the world saw it and learned to never listen to manchild Superman fans again. And when has a movie with Batman in it ever failed?
And we haven't even gotten to the Justice League movie yet!
So yeah, don't get your hopes up OP you fag: the DCCU is here to stay.
>>78841110 It won't, but even if Metacritic movie score is even 1% lower, and in the wake The Force Awakens changing our standards on what is or isn't a success. We'll probably say it flopped despite turning a profit and actually not sucking like Green Lantern.
I swear between you, /tv/, & /v/. I don't know which board is the worst at doom shouting at everything.
>>78859183 /a/ atleast has facts to go on with stalkerpoint shit, but they're become faggots over it, I'll give you that. /tv/ just wants more trainwrecks so they have something to meme about, and /v/ is yelling at proverbial cruise ships to sink because TOR.
>>78864993 They're still doing solo movies, they're just not doing the set-up origin story because no one cares about those. The vast majority of the people who saw Avengers didn't bother to see the other phase 1 movies beyond Iron Man 1 and 2. People want to see team ups, which is why Marvel is now doing team up movies for every movie they make.
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