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Has there ever been a character that's done a complete 180 from how they were created and no one has cared much less their creators have applauded it
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>>78825812
Silk went from complete shit to kinda cute
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It's not like anyone but casuals reads the Harley Quinn comics anyway. Meanwhile the original cartoon will forever be a classic that stands on its own without relying on shitty marketing gimmicks like "New 52" or "Suicide Squad movie!".
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>>78825812
Fucking newfag do you even 80s?
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>>78825848
Harley Quinn is one of the consistently top selling comics right now.
So. Ya know.
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Rogue was an old terrorist
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Killer moth used to be an actual threat.
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>>78825883

And why is that? Because casuals buy it.

Thanks for proving my point.
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>its another "I'm salty about Harley's popularity" thread
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>>78825812
I don't think that's quite as dramatic a shift for her character as that time in the older Harley series where she went from her cartoony self having wacky adventures and antics to a humorless, stoic ninja in a weirdly serious noir-like setting
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>>78825926
I'm salty that she stole crazy semi heroic clown girl schtick from Duela dent.
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>>78825910
But anon the market decides what's important, not pathetic overweight critics.
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>>78825812

>it was NEVER any of my fault: the page

Fucking christ...also, why is her nose red?
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>>78825987
>stole
Nigga, she doesn't exist anymore. Take it up with DC.
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>>78826044
Cuz she's an alcoholic.
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I think Ambush Bug going from legit villain to one of the wackiest characters ever is a bigger 180
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>>78826051
>she doesn't exist
Sadly she does but only as a leatherface twit.
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>>78826014

Of course, but just because something is popular doesn't mean it isn't shit.

Just look at every Adam Sandler movie. Harley Quinn is the Sandler of DC.
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>>78825987
Christ, that art is awful. Everyone's faces are so tiny.
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>>78826044
Like, I don't wanna blame tumblr again, but...
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>>78825812
Deadpool
Swamp Thing
Animal Man
Cyclops
the hundreds of other characters sent down the villain->anti-villain->anti-hero->hero route
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>>78826126

Oh sure, blame Tumblr for EVERYTHING that's gone wrong.

Harley Quinn? TUMBLR!!
Steven Universe? TUMBLR!!!
ISIL? TUMBLR!!!!
9/11?!! TUMBLR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tumblr isn't the root of all evil, 4chan. Grow up.
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>>78825812
Why are you implying nobody cares that she's apparently a hero and role model now? She's committed causeless mass-murder on a scale few manage to achieve.

But apparently it's okay because women think her make-up is cute.
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>>78826051
#justice4OGHarlequin
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>>78826289
Yeah, Palmiotti/Conner definitely aren't tumblr.
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>>78825926
I'm not mad or even salty
I just think its weird how she became feminist icon for all the reasons tumblr usually hates

Hell the initial reaction for nu 52 harley was 1:1 with how they usually take things and then all of a sudden harley quinn is feminist and just like me special snowflake
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>>78826289
You're an idiot and a disgusting namefag. Filtered.
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>>78826044
tumblr nose
Its how they like their characters now
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>>78826063
who?
no joke isn't ambush bug basically the 4th wall breaking chanel 52 character?
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>>78826389
Read comics some day. You may actually fit in here.
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>>78826361
>>78826289
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>>78826289
>9/11?!! TUMBLR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They blamed it on muslim terrorists, but it was actually a woman's group who were tired or looking at those phallic skyscrapers every day
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>>78826316
Nobody cares about those things which is exactly why I said nobody cares
I mean Harley Quinn killing kids and stuff should be a big deal but Tumblr was deaf to it
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>>78826051
Unfortunately she does and now also lusts after her "dad".
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remember when DC stopped caring about the morals of their heroes
They'll do more of this in the future and you could have stopped it
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>>78826652
I'll never understand how they could justify Harley going good like this
I mean shouldn't her mental illness make her want to kill WW
shouldn't WW remember when she tried to kill her and Superman?
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>>78826652
Harley Quinn
Catwoman
Poison Ivy

All are pretty much anti heroes
I was never comfortable calling them villains although they do straddle that line
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This comic has been more in-character for Harley than she has ever been in non-TAS based comics.

She's a ditzy, romantic clown, not a psychopath murderer. If they're keeping that characterization, it's important to move her away from the Joker, who IS a psychopath murderer.

And if you're gonna have her on her own, it's a good progression to have her resent the Joker who she can no longer have.

I'd rather her be "DC's Deadpool" than just "poor man's Joker"
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>>78827087
>this is what Harley Quinn fans believe
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>>78827087
Bait?
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>>78827087
>ditzy romantic clown
>psychopathic murderer
She could be both. Correction: she should be both.
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>>78826729
>Harley quinn
>Poison ivy
>not actually Supervillains
What the fuck is wrong with you anon?
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>>78826729
>women can't be villains
Way to be sexist, shitlord.
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>>78827087
I prefer injustice Harley
She misses the Joker terribly but moves on
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>>78827384
>injustice harley
Gross
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>>78827300
>>78827335
I regard them as anti heroes
Villains are people who do evil things whereas people who do bad for a ethical cause or for money aren't evil
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>>78827384
this is why we need an injustice book in the main continuity
Detective chimp!
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>>78827166
>>78827227
>>78827257
>I only started reading comics last year!

She's not an edgelord, she was never meant to be. Being a shitty murderer is what lead to the Forever Evil issue where she killed a bunch of fucking children.

Just because the Joker has been ruined by "muh realism" edgy fags over the years doesn't mean Harley does too. I'm not even a fan of her, and I'm not saying this to be "feminist" or whatever bogeyman you want to use to discredit other people. But in a time where the Joker no longer has a need for a sidekick and serial killer villains are a dime a dozen, I'd much rather DC return to a more unique identity for the character.
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>>78827492
>people who do bad things for money are not evil
Wut?
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>>78827513
Fuck off, we could have Detective Chimp without something as retarded as Injustice. Read Day of Vengeance and Shadowpact some day.
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>>78827384
>Injustice
These are the kinds of people who want edgy Harley back.
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>>78827552
I did
I want more detective chimp
Talking racoon bitch please
come one you would never have seen that stuff in shadowpact
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>>78827552
Detective chimp is just as retarded as Injustice
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>>78827513
I bet you want to read about those retard talking animals in the GL corps too
did you not get enough zoo crew as a child
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>>78827492
Yeah and both Harley and poison ivy have done evil things ergo they are villains.
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>>78826093
Adam Sandler has some funny movies, he's hit and miss. I don't even read comic books but fuck off with your elitist opinion titty boy
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>>78827584
>Injustice Harley
>Edgy
Yeah man, look at those edges. I am sure the writer listened to Linkin Park while he was writing the plot. So much edge belongs in the 90s
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>>78827609
Well memed, my friend. Did you read his bio in Wikipedia?
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>>78827682
Yes, she helped nuke a city and trick a man into killing his wife and unborn child, and she never gets comeuppance for it. Pretty edgy if you ask me.
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>>78827492
Who is this semen demon?
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>>78827729
Are you an idiot?
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>>78827694
I just dislike talking chimps. Talking apes and monkey I'm cool with but fuck chimps.
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>>78827729
The unknown soldier.
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>>78827729
Do you just skim through threads and ogle at the pictures?
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>>78827770
You don't?
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>>78826289
>Getting this triggered
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>>78827721
It's not like Superman hasn't tried
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>>78825883
Precisely. Nu!Harley a meme character with a massive boost in popularity that will go away or revert to the Paul Dini version when normies decide comics aren't cool anymore.
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>>78827694
To me detective chimp is just too tryhard. >oooh a talking chimp who solves mysteries isn't that just fun and weird?
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>>78827817
why couldn't Superman simply kill her again?
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>>78827929
Because he has bigger things to attend to. I mean, this is Emperor of Mankind we are talking about, there's bigger worries than some chick. It seems like you haven't read the comic
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>>78825812
Batman.
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>>78825812
Mr. Freeze
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>>78825812
I just wish she wasn't using that terrible costume
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