>>78824820 This Electro costume is GOAT, but I don't think it would have worked for what they were doing (dorky scientist turned killer rather than a thug with powers) nor would I want it tainted because they would find a way to fuck it up
Because it CAN not aways but can ruin the experience, gravity, tension, believability, immersion into the story and world. Same with Godzilla, showa fans are all like why you hating on the late 60s/70s suits it's not meant to be realistic, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER if it is outlandish, we still want bad ass suits that look visually impressive and believable not Adam west garbage.
Because most of them were created 40 to 50 years ago and capeshit aren't timepieces so the material gets dated in the same way you don't wear bellbottoms or have mutton chops and nerds get sent to school in Kohl's t-shirts with New Balances and faded bootcut jeans now instead of sweatervests and bowties.
>>78826790 >Villains are suppose to be threatening and badass. His costume has nothing to do with this. Miles is a light hearted joker but wears black and red. The Joker is a threatening badass but his most popular image is a purple suit. If you think generic black costumes are cool then you're pretty fucking lame.
In a comic book, costumes are defined by line weight and exeraggered gesture rather than real world material like faberic or spandex. It's just one of those things thay can't translate to live action well, because it ends up looking silly rather than pulpy and badass. Compare Golden Age Batman's design to Adam West, Adam just doesn't have the advantage of being a drawing and being as dynamic an artist could make a character. Even Batfleck's costume is missing some of that.
Does thay mean studios shouldn't try? Nope. Faithful attempts are still better than tacticool bullshit or putting too much detail into the designs to where they're cluttered (suicide squad).
>>78831309 Captain America's suits have been vastly better than the same one he was using since the 50s. The fact that it took the movies for them to finally change it a couple years ago is astounding.
Other than that I mostly agree, but Hawkeye costumes are shit in all mediums, desu.
>>78831368 This applies to pretty much anyone in this thread that's saying shit like 'it's too silly'. Are people even going to remember a single comic book adaption in a few years? The comics on the other hand have existed and will continue to exist for decades. Always keep that in mind when saying how 'silly' and 'dated' these are.
>>78827173 >In a comic book, costumes are defined by line weight and exeraggered gesture rather than real world material like faberic or spandex. It's just one of those things thay can't translate to live action well, because it ends up looking silly rather than pulpy and badass
The silly the better. The costumes were always colorful and absurd, trying to make them functional is missing the point. Spider-man doesn't dress the way he does for being pratical, he does because it looks cool, silly, iconic, colorful.
Because, from a plot perspective, unless the character is super rich (Iron Man, Batman), or from another world/land (Thor, Wonder Woman, Black Panther, Green Lantern in a way), they will likely lack the skills and/or resources to make a costume like that. It's not like they're going to commission someone else to do it.
And if they're government agents (Black Widow, Hawkeye), it makes sense that they wouldn't wear something gaudy. Cap is one of the few exceptions because he was a mascot-turned-war hero, and even he gets a more stealthy suit for TWS.
Spider-Man is one of the few exceptions because Spidey's young and wants to become a superhero in the traditional sense, as opposed to your Iron Mans and Batmans who see themselves more as just a vigilante/someone-trying-to-do-good.
>>78824820 Because, unlike comic book universes, the movies don't have an implied cultural pressure for costumes. Both Marvel and DC have sliding timelines going back years, new heroes and villains put on costumes because that's what superheroes and villains wear and being a superhero or supervillain is about the spectacle as much as anything else. Comic book movies don't have that. In comic book movies heroes and villains are new and rare, there isn't much reason for either of them to run out in costumes. Take a look at OP's pic. Looks good, is "realistic," and still harks back to the original. But there is no reason for Electro to wear it within the timespan covered by a film. He's some power company repairman given powers in a freak accident lashing out and using his powers to satisfy his greed and base impulses before being stopped by the hero after a few weeks at best.
I don't know about you, but my first thoughts after getting electrical powers and robbing a bank isn't going to be getting a custom bodysuit made.
>>78831775 I agree with you so much, no one ever says this but its true on top of many other factors. I wish they would just do a fucking time skip ten years ahead or something. I feel like the mcu is already at this point but they're still not really taking advantage of it at all with the biggest offender being Jessica Jones.
>>78831784 But they do, Superman is the movie that made all capeshit movies popular.
It's not so much me as it is the filmmakers. I think the reason why Christopher Reeves' Superman, Adam West's Batman, and even maybe the Schumacher Batman films got free passes were because we were still getting to see a lot of these characters in live-action for the first time.
Now that we've had those experiences, I think filmmakers want to try making more grounded heroes, who live in a world we can relate to - people just like us, but who find themselves in extraordinary circumstances. The whole costume thing comes with that.
Superheroes don't wear the silly costumes in film for the same reason the devil in film no longer wears a red velvet onsie. What worked in one very specific context during a very specific time period does not work any longer, despite (or maybe because of) how iconic it became.
>>78831861 Who's we? People over 35? No one not expressly interested in capeshit is going to go back and watch decade old capeshit movies. The same way 25 year old bitches are just watching Star Wars for the first time now.
You can't really make that comparison though, because artistic tastes were different back then, not to mention it was uncharted waters for the medium at the time. Didn't Adam West's Batman come out only a few years after color TV became the standard? The first adaptation of anything gets a free pass because people just want to see how it looks in the new medium. Where as now, we take adaptations more for granted, so we have a lot more room for criticism.
Video game devs weren't concerned about making immersive, open-world games back in the day either, but now that the idea of being able to play a video game at home in your living room isn't as ground-breaking as it was decades ago, the audience wants more depth.
>>78832459 Movie honestly gets a lot more hatet han it deserves. Oa looked nice and the alien designs were awesome, and I liked that his outfit actually looked like an alien construct instead of spandex and white gloves. Still easily better than Thor.
>>78832410 >I don't think "silly" costume comics would be as acceptable in this time period as they were back then. If anything, they are more accepted now than ever. Compare caps suit in winter soldier to cyclops running around as a matrix cosplayer and saying 'ummm a-at least it's not spandex, amirite guys?'
>>78824820 I've never liked Electro's costume. Not only does it look stupid but it just looks bad. I can't believe the same guy who designed the sleek sexy classic that is the Spider-Man costume also came up with a costume that looks like something your 6 year old would draw and you'd put on your fridge for like a day at most.
>>78832410 >>78832509 No seriously, what the fuck are you even talking about? How is this any more cheesy than in the 70s? How does the Tim Burton costume look incredibly more cheesy than the Dark Knight costume?
I was referring to Superman's spandex look, sorry. That's a dated look because spandex doesn't work within a modern mythos. It's not so much the times we live in as much as the times the movies are set in, but all of these movies are set in the modern age, and I don't think any 2016 real-world adult male superhero would consciously choose to wear spandex. Where as, back in the day, I could genuinely see a Superman having been alive and active in the 60's wearing that iconic suit.
For the world the Dark Knight was set in, the Burton costume didn't make sense. Too camp. It's not an objectively bad costume though; just think the cowl needs some work.
As for Superman, his costume is the cornerstone of the superhero briefs debate, which a lot would love to see on screen, and a lot would hate. I think Superman Returns showed us the best compromise between something classic-looking made out of modern material.
Then again, you don't have much room for changes with Superman before it stops being Superman, so he's probably one of the exceptions. A costume like Batman's or Captain America's though, you can do some redesigning while still keeping the iconic look.
Not that guy but it kind of makes sense though. Spidey has his spider sense to avoid taking hits from most thugs, so he doesn't need body armor. He swings around, so he needs something that doesn't weigh too much or could get caught on things. And he needs maneuverability, because his fighting style is acrobatic and he's always climbing.
>>78833537 I can't stand that costume desu. Yeah, everytime there's a live action thing the google images gets swamped with it. Fuck, you can't look up the Riddler withoug getting a bunch of shitty NPH fan posters and and Batman Forever
>>78831309 Not every character is Ironman. Not all characters have the same origin or the same abilities. These 'Shitty' movies people judge harshly are adapted not for the hardcore fans but all movie goers. And regardless of whether or not you think it's shitty, they make bank. So yeah, don't spend your money on shit you think is a waste.
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