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IT'S BACK BITCHES!

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IT'S BACK BITCHES!
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For WHO

We wouldn't be able to find SMBZ appealing without going back to being 12 years old ourselves.
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>>78799465

I am too old for this shit.

It is time for us to grow up and watch Home-tv shows like the rife-man or looney tunes. Or M*A*T*C*H
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>>78799465
Who fucking cares?
It won't be good.
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>>78799656
dunno, watched the first episode and it's a lot better then the original
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>>78799701
That's not saying much
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>>78799465
Inform /v/ instead.
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>>78799465
Why should I care?
It was gone too long to stay a guilty pleasure and the way he treated his fans is just another reason not to go back.
At least the guy who does arby n the chief got a film degree before cumming back.
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>>78799465
Just sent a link off to my uncle who works for Nintendo's legal team. I'm sure they'll love this.
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>>78799465
>>>/v/
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Didn't even include a link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-ErbSrTOc

Come on.
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>>78801591
DUDE LEL Xdddd
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>>78802257
Alvin, please go.
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>>78799465
>>78801877

>A good sprite animation
>in 2016

What a time to be alive.
You think internet sprite animation will ever make a comeback?
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>>78799465
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>>78802609
fuck off you child
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>>78802649
Calm down faggot.
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>>78802746
Um, that's not me.
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>>78802649
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>>78802746
What are you doing?
This thread is already dead, no need to make it shit with your internet bravado.
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>>78802873
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>>78802962
I actually need some reaction images so keep on going
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>>78802873
Keep going anon!
Your anger brings me great joy.
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>>78802990
that's kind of a sad way to spend a friday don't you think?
why cant you just watch the video and enjoy it man, why you gotta be like this
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>Newgrounds shit

Ugh

Anyone here who likes this is a fucking idiot memelord
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>>78803041
Okay child
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Holy shit, it's been so long. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't lost his touch.
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Wait, he's rebooting the story? Why?
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>>78803121
I have to wonder where would he be now if he concluded it back in the Newgrouds era and continued sprite work.

>>78803164
He realized how shit/lackluster eps 1-4 were and thought he could improve the story.
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>>78803164
from what I heard in the decade between the first episode of the original series and this reboot was that he wasn't happy with some of the choices he made for the story, and as he continued the original series he had begun to work more on re-writing it then doing actual work on the remainder of the series
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I thought it was okay, but he needs to keep his dumb OCs out of it.

>LOL IT'S HULK HOGAN AS A CHICKEN XD
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>>78799465
>He didn't call it ZMB Kai
So close, but he stopped short of perfection.
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>>78803666
>hulk hogan as a chicken
thats rawk hawk mah nigga
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>>78803666
I seriously hope this is bait.
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>>78803666
http://www.mariowiki.com/Rawk_Hawk

TURNS OUT YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE

THANKS FOR PLAYING, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE. YOU WON'T BE GOING HOME EMPTY HANDED, SO PLEASE ENJOY THIS COPY OF THE HOME GAME!
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>>78803666
>OC

HAHAHA. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN EVEN HAVE AN OPINION OF THIS WHEN YOU KNOW JACKSHIT?
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>>78803666
>Calling Rawk Hawk an OC
You uneducated swine.
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>>78803666
>Rawk Hawk
>OC

You're breaking my heart anon
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Fuck yeah, I'm hype as shit.
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You know what the best thing about this is? He uploaded it to Newgrounds too.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/668690
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>>78801877
>1st ep is 32 minutes

Man, I forgot how long he made these
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>>78804019
Sup Flup?
Hows the site these days?
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>>78803666
>you
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>>78799612
>M*A*T*C*H

Jesus fucking christ
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>>78803666
>OC
Fuck off Satan, it's like you didn't play the Paper Mario series
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>>78803666
He's definitely not OC, but you're right about Hulk Hogan as a chicken. That part's pretty accurate.
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>>78803666
Fuck off Lucifer.
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>>78803666
>rawk hawk
>OC
Anon..
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I like that the Mario Kart from the original episode one was replaced with a Smash Tenkaichi Budokai.
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>>78803666
Guaranteed replies, but I don't really care cause RAWK HAWK MR SATAN WORKS
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that was the first time i saw an actual penis besides my own
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>>78803666
I don't remember much from the old ones, but didn't he never use his own OCs? I think that made it stay pretty genuine to all series included
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>>78805074
Only things I can think of are fire sonic (which was cool) and the edgy wolverine koopatrol (which he's taking out of the remake), but he wasn't that bad anyway
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>>78805074
Alvin made this guy. He won't be in the reboot though since Alvin felt he was an unnecessary addition in hindsight.

He had a cool fight though

>>78805278
Oh right, he also made fire sonic
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I love it when people need to force themselves to be angry, bitchy, whiny, hateful, etc of something. It's like they have this unstoppable need to go into a thread about something they don't like and announce to everyone just how much they don't like/care about something, write paagraphs about why they hate/don't cate about it, and then act like they're incapable of understanding how anyone in the entire world, all 9+ billion other people on Earth, could like what they hate.

If you're doing it just to get kicks on the internet, I laugh at you. If you're so empty and bitter in real life that you need to do this, I pity you.
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>>78805423
>Hey the thread seems to be recovering and a few people are having a nice discussion
>Better ruin everything by climbing on my high horse!

Kill yourself.
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>>78805365
Any word on what he has to say regarding Big Yoshi, his tribe, the island fight and the Axem Rangers?
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>>78805423
Do you even know where you are?
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>>78805711
Chances are, they won't be the Axem Ranger heads pasted onto MMZ bodies since that was profoundly stupid as well. I mean, they're in the opening, so it's not like they'll be replaced.
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>>78805711
Nothing about that ac yet. Considering K. Rool is in this, it might be replaced with a DK Island arc.
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>>78805918
>Possible DK fight
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>that intro
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>>78805711
>>78805918
He mentioned that Yoshi's Island would be back.
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>>78799465

How long until he gives up on it and goes back to drawing furry foot fetish porn?
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>>78806035
At 5k an episode?
I'll give him until episode 7
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How did you feel about the first episode?
I thought it was fucking great.
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>>78806160
I want to like it, but showing enthusiasm for and enjoying anything is considered the greatest autism on 4chan, so to fit in and follow our board culture I must say that I hate it and hope everyone associated with it dies a cruel death.
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>Mario puts the beat down on Bowser
>No SMACK MY BITCH UP

>>78806160

It's okay.
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>>78806280
>but showing enthusiasm for and enjoying anything is considered the greatest autism on 4chan

On /v/ sure but on /co/ if you like something it'll get canceled after 1 season or have poor sales that lead to an earlier cancellation.

So in other words hate this as much as you can so that Alvin doesn't give up or end this show on a cliffhanger.
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>>78806283
He has to be aware of what music he puts on videos so that it doesn't get pulled.
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>>78806280
stop fucking whining
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Who fucking cares?
You'd have to be 12 to put up with DBZ itself, but a mario DBZ knockoff is pure autism.
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>>78806401
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>>78806514
See what I mean? Everything is autism. You people don't even know what the word means anymore. Everything in existence is autism, especially when it's something you don't like. It's the king of the meme words on 4chan, which is ironic for a place that despises memes yet adopts other sites' memes as fast as possible.
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>>78806717
Psst anon, you know what you should do to alleviate this issue?
Stop caring and discuss something you like, all it takes is one reply to blatant bait and some faggots hurt feelings to ruin a thread.
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>>78806717
much like how faggot used to mean a pile of sticks, the word autism has evolved and come to describe the following;

Something I like but don't want others knowing I like
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>>78806514
>You'd have to be 12 to put up with DBZ itself

Okay.

Why?
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>>78806982
Because I said so.
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>>78803666
>OC
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>>78807045
And you are? what?
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>>78807114
Obviously a skinny white dude
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>>78807045
Someone who isn't an autistic child enjoying this garbage.
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>>78807176
Nice job.
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>>78807176
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Finally watched it, and holy shit, it's fucking perfect. The fighting is as awesome as ever even in the first fucking episode (Especially impressive since it's been so long since Alvin's last SMBZ episode), the slapstick humor is still in top form, and the animation and audio are even better than before. Even the overall presentation is more polished, with the new opening, eyecatches, credits, and music for all these things (along with the music for the closing seconds before the credits, DBZ-style) is just sublime.

I thought it wouldn't live up to my expectations, but it fucking surpassed them. I can't wait until the next episode in like May.
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>>78805917
>MMZ

It was Megaman Battle Network, actually. Sorry for nitpicking but BN deserves more recognition.
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well since the one on /v/ got pruned cause of rampant autism gotta keep this one alive
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>>78808776
But stupid anon all of 4chan has autism and it includes you
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>>78808776
Wasn't it deleted?
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>>78808848

When everyone's autistic, no one will be
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>>78808108
S'fine. Almost all of them were MMBN bodies on looking back, save for Axem Red, who was using MMZ series Zero's body. Weird how he was the odd one out.

But yeah, like I said, I doubt they'll have the Mega Man bodies in the reboot, since I'm almost positive that Alvin dislikes that he did that back then.

So we'll probably see some custom sprites or something. Maybe.
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>Mod deleted the /v/ thread

Why the fuck
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>>78808978
I believe I saw Alvin say that the Rangers would look different this time around and not employ the use of megaman sprites.
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>>78808978

I guess I was only half right. I just assumed Red was using Protoman's body, and I don't even know what black and green are if they aren't just palette swaps.
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So this is a reboot and not a direct continuation?
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>>78809262
Affirmative.
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>>78809262
Yes
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>>78809081
Nice. Now, I didn't mind the Mega Axem Ranger Men back when I was a kid, but looking back, I can see how... lazy it was, I guess? Good on Alvin to put in an effort to really differentiate the reboot from the original quality-wise.

I'm glad he finally snapped out of his funk and whatnot. Shame it took Monty and Iwata dying to do it. With the first episode of the reboot done, it looks like he's really been making sure that he's putting out a product worth that 5k he gets per episode, and then some.
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>GAME
>OVER
>MARIO
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N E R D S
E
R
D
S
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>>78809404
>IT'S SHOWTIME!!
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Comparison between the old and new episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbE7pH613E0
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>>78809559
God damn, it's like night and day. And I just now realized how awful Bowser's SS sprites are.
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>>78809559
Look at that, depth of field.
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>>78799465
Musha Musharoom No Gattling!
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>>78809559
You can do lots of things, when you have money.
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>>78809559

Orginally the first two episodes were meant to be one big one, but Alvin had to split it up because the technology wasn't good enough
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>>78810112
God bless Bowser's Inside Story for the smoothest look Bowser ever had.
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>>78810219
Also years of experience and renewed passion might have something to do with it
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>>78810219
>needing money
>for a sprite animation
it takes time dude not a budget.
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>>78810391
More money means more time spent not working, which means more time to devote working on this.
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>>78806717
Its a common hobby for autistic people/mentally deficient to take an existing property or two and mash it with another.
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>In the original series, there was going to be a feature length episode that had Chaos as the main antagonist.

I really hope Alvin keeps that in the reboot. Mario and Luigi vs Perfect Chaos would be amazing.

>Mecha Sonic was going to hold a tournament, similar to what Cell did in Dragon Ball Z.
>Smithy was to serve as the Big Bad of the second arc, with the rebuilt Axem Rangers at his side. He would have also used Mecha Sonic's parts to build an Axem Ranger Blue.
>The third arc would have featured Princess Rosalina.

These as well.
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>>78810391
>>78810330

The patreon funding helps is what I'm saying.
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>>78810465
It's also common for autistic people to call every thing any other person does autistic
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>>78810465
Must be an awful lot of autistic people on Earth, then, especially in high places in the entertainment industry. Do they all also have the real symptoms of autism, not your "I don't like it therefore it is this" definition of the disorder?
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>>78810482
Man I'm just looking forward to the K. Rool mini-arc

>Potential DK fight scenes
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>>78810571
I'm not saying that there aren't retarded people, I'm just saying you're all retarded for liking something thats one step away from being sonichu.
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When did the word autism become correlated with imagination and fun creativity?

Do you unironically believe every child who makes things up and had innocent fun with them is autistic? Do you believe all actors or directors or any people with a creative mind are autistic? Do you believe that people who spend all their free time anonymously shitting on what other people do and hating them for it isn't autistic?

Seriously?
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>>78810735
>you're all retarded for liking something i dislike
I'm pretty sure you might actually be autistic.
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>>78810735
No one in SMBZ is trying to cure gayness using their magic blood and railing at Gamestop, so it's nothing like Sonichu.

>everything I hate is the exact same thing!

Seems like you're the one with the mental problems hee.
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>>78810745
Welcome to 4chan where fun and enjoyable are synonymous with a mental illness.
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>>78799465

>Scooter music

I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>78807045
You are not Stone Cold, so I don't care if you say so
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>>78810482
Also Blaze the Cat will be added as the 6th ranger during the Smithy Arc
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>>78811517
blaze is best girl
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>>78811517
He's thinking about it. It's not been confirmed but he's thought about it. Lets just hope we reach that point first.
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>>78811517
>>78811700
That's at least 8 years down the line
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>>78803666
A grand troll, has to be.
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>>78809448

>I've heard less boos in the Forever Forest
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>>78811517
But I thought everyone from Sonic's world died.
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>>78799465
I remember announcing this a little while ago.

Oh and I remember when I saw Alvin Earthworm arguing with people in the comment section about Death Battle's Pokemon vs Digimon, and he was probably trolling, but it was kind of surprising.
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>>78812255
Blaze is from the Sol Dimension.
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>>78811517
That'd be real neat; maybe somewhere down the line, they could add Silver too.

On another note, did anyone else notice that Link was among the Smash fighters that didn't make to to the finals? Think we might get Link as a surprise seventh Ranger somewhere down the line? Could it mean a potential Hyrule Arc? Or am I overthinking this and it was just a nice little nod to the Zelda fans?
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>>78812955

You're over thinking it. Link was in Mario Kart 8, so it's not hard to imagine him being in SMBZ

Alvin's response
>Nope [he won't appear down the line]. That was just a little easter egg, since Link has appeared in Mario kart. Honestly, I was going to have nothing but Smash bros characters filling up the tournament grid, but a friend of mine suggested I change it.
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>>78812955
Isn't Silver from the future though? If Silver existed at some point he was probably erased after everyone in Sonic's World was killed, That or maybe his world still has some survivors. Doesn't make that much sense for a single robot to destroy every single sentient living being on Sonic's World after all.
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>>78812955
Link was merely an Easter Egg
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>>78803041
>fucking idiot memelord

Being creative today I see
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>>78812955
Alvin loathes Silver.
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>>78813029
Ah well. Having Link show up would probably have been as likely as Mega Man showing up.

Though one has to wonder if, in the EXTREMELY unlikely case that he was, would they use the Power Battle/Power Fighters spritesets, or would he use something a bit more esoteric... or would he go the extra mile and use something completely custom-made?
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>>78813195
Buh buh muh Sonic comics!
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Huh. Wasn't expecting this today.

Not terrible, either. Hope he keeps going with it this time. And doesn't get cease and desisted up the ass.
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>>78814048
hooray for the legal grey area that is paetron.
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>>78812955
That's a dangerous lane. Crash Retold[/ spoiler] lane.
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>>78813240
Probably something of a similar height to Mario and Sonic, so I'd guess... the MM7/Power Battle/Power Fights spritesets? Unless he's willing to modify the more detailed MM8/MM&B spritesets.
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>>78814251
Should I know what that is?
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>Yoshi will get btfo by Metallix in the next episode.
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>>78814377
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It's back? And I agree with some people here. Newgrounds isn't what it used to be, like when Randy Solem was around, making Mario vs Sonic, Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom, etc. Still pissed off about the first series being cancelled. I'll give the new one a chance though. Doubt it will be exciting as it was years ago.
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>>78802444
Death Battle has been doing a good job reviving it.
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>>78803666
Literally can't tell if b8 or serious.
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>>78814684
It's bait, it's been posted in all the threads word for word
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>>78814608
I thought they switched to 3D models now.
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>>78803273
>>78803357
He said that his job was causing him stress and making the flashes were becoming a chore for him. He even threw a bitchfit around the release of ep 7.
Funny, he planned on making three sagas, each saga having 15 episodes. Took him like 6 years to make 8 eps. If he never cancelled it, it would be finished around 2025 or around there.
But he said he lost his job and now has all the time in the world to reboot it.
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>>78805074
He made custom sprites. Captain Basilisx and Fire Sonic were OCs. Add the Axem Rangers X too. Mecha Mario is also one. In a way, Mecha Sonic is also an OC. His sprite appeared in the first couple of Classic Sonic games, just not with the role and personality he had in SMBZ.
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>>78806283
I forgot about that. It's not the same without music from Prodigy
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>>78799465
>Done in Adobe flash CS3
Woah

>>78814846
Now I'm curious as to what his job was.

>But he said he lost his job and now has all the time in the world to reboot it.
And at 5k an episode.
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>>78811517
>>78811580
>>78811700
>>78811750
That's if he doesn't drop the series again.
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>>78812291
>death battle
>legit
Surprised they didn't make the Pokemon side win, seeing how they pander to fandoms all the time.
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>>78812955
Sonic 2006 isn't canon.
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http://alvin-earthworm-smbz.deviantart.com/journal/SMBZ-FAQ-563390400

>Are we going to see Princess Peach get into any fight scenes in this reboot?

>Princess Peach has always been a dumbass in distress and that's how she's gonna stay.

Aw, I wanted to see a frying pan or a flying hip somewhere.
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>>78814796
Depends on the characters and the gameplay of their series, I guess.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzH7eSOwAc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sbbhEgl95W4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrvEWWYLDHM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Efq9rCs_M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NBK0stoukBQ
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>>78814459
YFW the reaction when it happens...again.
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>>78815378
>Princess Peach has always been a dumbass in distress
What are Paper Mario: TTYD, Super Princess Peach, and Super Mario 3D World?
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>>78815428
I hope for another close up.
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>>78815438
She was the best character in Super Mario Bros 2, bitch could FLY
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>>78815481
>filename
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>>78815481
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>>78815510
bros 2 was a legally published rom-hack
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>>78815420
>That Bowser Jr. vs Metal Sonic video
>Classic Metal Sonic tries to stop Jr.
>Gets Blown the FUCK Out by the SMBZ design
>Beats the FUCK out of Jr.
>Stares Bowser down in the rain
Holy shit that was great. I've always hated Death Battle for some of the bullshit they've done, but I might get into 1-Minute Melee if they're all like that.
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>luigi does nothing but get his ass kicked back and forth
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>>78814205
You say that. That injustice porn game just got taken down.
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>>78815772
>injustice porn game
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>That animation
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I just want star fox the animated series already
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>>78805365
I'm pretty sure Basilix was an antagonist from Asterix and Obelix.
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Guys I'm really tempted to donate to the patreon. $10 every ~4ish months doesn't sound bad for supporting something I enjoy so much and having my name in the credits forever makes me feel fuzzy inside

Should I do it?
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>>78816888
If you want to, go ahead.
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>>78816888
>Triple 8

Yeah sure, just try not to give him the /co/ curse.
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>>78817176
>>78817127
Trips convinced me, I already feel fuzzy

Godspeed Alvin you wonderful bastard
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>>78817366
Enjoy being able to watch the newest episode 3 days before public release please share the link when you do
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>>78817366
Why am I not surprised people who patronize this also patronize Breeding Season
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>>78815642

A legally published rom hack with Mario sprites, and therefore better marketability in America.

If there was a better way to sell Doki Doki Panic in America, preferably without giving kids nightmares with those decapitated heads, I can't think of it.
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>>78817394
It's weird how I'm able to see the post with the episode when you're only supposed to get that with $20+, hmm

No can do anon. I'm not going to backstab him if I'm willing to give him my dollarinos. 3 days is barely any time anyway, hardly a bonus
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Where can I download this episode and the old ones in good quality?
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>>78817729
I believe you can get them on Alvin's newgrounds.
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>>78815893
There was a slave trainer game set in the DC universe. It got shut down recently, before the demo builds even got to proper sex.
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>>78801877
I forget, did shadow ever actually appear in the originals, or was he just in the intro?
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>>78817919
Shadow was the best fighter on Team Mario
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>>78817919
Yes. He appeared along with Sonic in the originals. Was a total twat, too.
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5,000 UNITED STATES DOLLARS
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>>78818186
Per episode aka roughly 4 months of work

That's not that much anon
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Time to get some food and spend 30 minutes pretending to be 12 again.

I am okay with this.
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>>78817919
I think he was supposed to be like Vegeta.
He was fairly edgy, as per usual after Sonic Adventure 2, but not unbearable.
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>>78817366
>28k per month
Holy shit, that porn game better be the best thing ever because damn, that's a lot of cash being invested into it.
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I know Nintendo and Sega have never really payed mind to this, but he really should cut back on the fucking trademarks.Now that he's making money, he needs to keep be more careful. Unless he has enough money to spare when the day comes where he BTFO of Ninty in court like Game Genie
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>>78810745

This. At least Kiwi Farms pretty much calls themselves autistic because they like to hunt down lolcows.
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>>78815642
A legally published rom-hack that was planned to be the original SMB2 before NoJ decided SMB1 with harder levels is a better sequel.
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>>78799465
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>>78801877
>that OPM soundtrack
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>>78813240
>>78814276
>Adding a third series to an already crazy crossover premise

Don't wanna spoil that broth there, eh chef? I mean yeah, I'd love to see Mega Man too, but I doubt it'd work unless Alvin actually plans for that to happen far enough down the line to make sense or something.
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I wish he would tone down the usage of meme sounds. Maybe hire some voice actors to read lines instead of bouncing back-and-forth between low quality voice clips.
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>>78812291

He doesn't know that much about Pokemon does he?
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>>78806123
kek
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>>78823132
>meme sounds
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>>78817919
>>78817988
>>78818346
Alvin hyped up his edgeyness to make him more a direct link to Vegeta, since Shadow wasn't really that bad in SA2.

In Universe they claim he changed due to rogue dying
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>>78805980
>tfw DK is only a shonen-tier badass in his own games, but a dipshit goof and general buttmonkey whenever paired with another franchise
Skylanders seems to be an exception though
I hope Alvin remembered he punched the entire moon out of orbit onto the final boss in DKCR
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>>78803666
>>78803041
>>78799612
I love how these comments are in every one of these threads
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>>78814485
WATER FIRE
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>onepuch-man sad theme starts playing
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>>78815612
So he uped Bowser from his SS look to his BiS look, why not the same for Mario and Luigi?
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>>78827733
For the exact reason he upped the SS bowser to BiS bowser. The more expressive and easier to edit sprite won out
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>>78815481
>filename
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>>78827733
SS Bowser was garbage for what SMBZ does. SS Mario and Luigi despite their dated quality still works well.
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>>78827733
Nostalgia purposes
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>>78827712
>The look on Luigi's face.
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>>78799465
>JUMP JUMP GATLING
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>>78815481
>dat filename
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>>78801877
Was the audio unsync for anyone else?
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>>78815378
>Him being this much of a bitch
Aw, this cuts into my enjoyment.
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>>78836042

He's a furry. I enjoyed his videos, but the less I know about him, the better.
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>>78836201
Orson Scott Card should have taught me this lesson and I thought he did.
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>>78815378
>I'm not sure, really. I felt Fire Sonic's appearance in the series had more impact since it was the first time a Sonic character used a Mario power up. Doing it too often could end up diluting the experience.
Actually, Sonic used the star back in episode 6...
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>been watching AGDQ 2016 all day
>come back to check /co/
>mfw this

I am overdosing on pixels right now
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>>78838216
The Star didn't give him a new form though.
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>>78815378
>Will all the fights be completely different form the original series?
>For the most parts yes. At the very least I'm remaking the fights from the ground up.

Aw, I was hoping that he would basically remake the big Yoshi's Island brawl with a lot more polish thanks to his increased animation prowess and maybe some added shots. I mean, how much could you really improve on that fight? Hopefully when we get there it'll at least feature some throwbacks to the original fight, like how Mario vs. Bowser did.
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I prefer Heroes of the Stars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLzJweDRGbM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETUWRlLLg1A
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>>78838358
I'm pretty sure that with the added depth of field he's exhibiting, he'd be able to do some of the more memorable moments from new angles alongside new setpieces. Imagine, say, the Sonic vs Axem Green & Black section, the one where they form a giant axe wheel, with a greater ability to show the chase with depth instead of just Sonic running away from it on a 2D plane.

Honestly, it's sort of a minor fight, but I'm very interested in how he's going to update the Mecha Sonic vs Yoshi fight, which will probably be in the next episode of the reboot. I always loved that one in particular for just how one-sided it was and all the spots using Yoshi's tongue. Seeing all that shit with more depth should be fantastic.
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What if episode 2 is all about Sonic's backstory, episode 3 is them finding Yoshi (and him battling Mecha Sonic), and episode 4 is them versus the Koopa Bros? Will episode 7 go straight to original episode 8's plot, or will Alvin just replace episode 7 with a different plotline? A real shame about him not liking the original episode 7 by the way, I loved it.
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>>78838766

I don't even hardly remember the series apart from the Yoshi's Island fight. I need to go back and rewatch them.
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>>78838766
Episode 2 will likely what episode 3 was orignally.
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So Sonic's friends aren't getting killed off this time?
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>>78838984
They are.
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This was cool back in 2007, but now its just cringey.
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>>78839048
>2007 was 9 years ago
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>>78815378
>Since you have Swivel, are you going to put textures on the Omega Doomship like you originally wanted?

>Oh, I will be collaborating with a talented 3D animator for the new version of the Omega Doomship. Trust me on this, it's gonna blow your mind.

GET MOTHERFUCKING HYPE
I liked the Doomship as it was though, I thought the low-poly aesthetic meshed well with the sprites
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>>78839188
I actually do like pre-rendered stuff with sprites but I'm a crpg guy.
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>>78838766
Episode 7 is mainly finding a Chaos emerald in a Ghost House instead of the pipe maze since King Boo is in the Silhouette.
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>>78799465
Whoa, did the same guy make almost the exact same thread across two boards?
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>>78839573
Not the OP of this thread, but I did make a thread on /v/ about this using the same image yesterday. Different text in my post, though.
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Just finished watching the episode. It was pretty okay but I miss having the ability to smash the space bar through all the dialogue.
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>>78839573
OP here, I made this thread on /co/ rather then /v/ for to reasons;

content may be game related, but it's an animation at it's core. kinda how RvB is more /co/ then it is /v/

/co/ doesn't hamfist rageposts anywhere CLOSE to what /v/ does, so we'd get more talk about relatively close to the content at hand instead of "stop liking this"
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>>78839838
>/co/ doesn't hamfist rageposts anywhere CLOSE to what /v/ does, so we'd get more talk about relatively close to the content at hand instead of "stop liking this"
Ah, I understand.
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I'm so glad that this is back. The Yoshi's Island episodes from the original series are undoubtedly the the pinnacle of sprite animation and the series as a whole still holds up pretty well today.
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>>78838591
>>78838766
New- Episode 2 will be the Yoshi fight of the original Episode 3, Maybe Take the first part of episode 4, Sonics backstory, and add it too New-Episode 2.

That would allow for an extended Yoshi tribe fight and maybe an initial Axem fight.

Apparently the new Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal. Be interesting to see both the new sprites duking it out
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>>78839883

Yeah it's pretty neat that he's still putting good work into this.

That cape feather fighting was the tits.
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>>78839909
>Apparently the new Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal
>even more brutal

Fucking how?!
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>In memory of Monty Oum
Wonder what the story behind that is.
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>>78839962
>prominent animator that inspired other animators died
That's it
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>>78839962
Probably just professional respect. Monty may have been kinda shitty in some ways in his personal life but his work DID inspire a lot of people.
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>>78839909
>Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal
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>>78839962

I thought it was weird too, but it's probably just professional respect rather than a direct dedication.
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>>78839909
>Apparently the new Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal
Can't wait for Metal to just snap Yoshi's limbs and continue his streak of edge.
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>>78839962
I didn't see a direct source, but apparently Monty's death is what got Alvin inspired to reboot it. He realized that he really had something with SMBZ, in regards to fight choreography, and remembered that it was actually a cited inspiration of Monty's. Apparently, he realized that now Monty will never see any closure to one of his inspirations, and decided to get off his ass and give it another go.

Gotta be honest, the side-by-side dedications to Oum and Iwata kinda took me aback a bit when I saw them.
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eh, the Axem Rangers bout is all I remember all that fondly
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>>78840146
>Original SMBZ inspired Oum's animations
>Oum's praise of OG SMBZ and his subsequent death inspire Alvin to revive the series and put the furry stuff on the back-burner
Man, that's kind of sad that a guy had to die to bring back one of my guilty pleasures.
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>>78839962
>>78840146

http://alvin-earthworm-smbz.deviantart.com/journal/RIP-Monty-Oum-517722740
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>>78799465
>last one I saw was when I was 10
Why do I feel so old all of a sudden?
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>>78840300
>Yet... I have taken it all for granted. And now, because of my procrastination and demotivation, Monty will never get to see it completed.
>I feel responsible. I feel like I have betrayed him. Betrayed everyone.
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How does he know who Mario is?
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>>78840146
>SMBZ was a huge inspiration for monty oum's work
I never knew that, call me stupid, but it's neat to know.
>>78839909
>even more brutal
Holy shit, how? I remember it being pretty barbaric.
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>>78840590
He's been in crossover games with him. Or it could be a plothole.
Since Mario has no idea who he is, it's likely the latter.
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>>78840590
That's going to get covered next episode.
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>>78840590
They went to the Olympics together.
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>>78840590

That's the cliffhanger for next episode, silly.
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>>78839909
>Apparently the new Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal.
Man, SMBZ is one of the most violent things I've ever seen to not feature a drop of bloodshed
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>>78840647
>>78840653
>>78840662
The thing is that the same plothole was in the original version and when you see Sonic's backstory a few episodes later, it doesn't make sense.
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>>78840731

I'm going to explain it away as >>78840656
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>>78840731
Shit, I forgot about that.
I should rewatch the original.
Does it still hold up, or is it somewhat awkward?
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>>78840438
because >>78839182 is why.
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>>78840784

I haven't rewatched it in several years, I don't remember myself. I'm going to go back and check it out again, just for comparison's sake.
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>>78839824
Well you can do that over at Newgrounds.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/668690
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>>78841146

Jesus, I can't believe Newgrounds is still a thing.
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>>78841146
You can't make us go back Tom.
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>>78815644

Eh, as a homage to SMBZ it's neat, outside it, it's just stupid since the whole reason Metal Sonic stayed around was that it was by far the best of the Sonic-Bots.
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>>78841257
Newgrounds is too big to die like that. It needs to make a comeback, a lot of talented people came from this place.
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>>78841146
Thanks, Fulp
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>>78840784
The fight scenes still haven't been topped to this day.

A lot of humor is just slapstick involving Luigi, but it's still pretty funny after all these years.

Keep in mind that it's an old Newgrounds series, so you're gonna be seeing quite a few mid-late 2000s memes, and some cringey snippets of dialogue and backstory.

Other than that, it's great. The downsides I listed aren't even that bad, in fact I honestly think they're half the reason every 12-15 year old found the series so magical and endearing,
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man that really took me back
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>>78840784
Episodes 1 through 3 aren't really anything special, though 3's Mecha Sonic vs. Yoshi scene is kind of intense
Episode 4 is where the fighting starts getting really good and episode 6 is where the series started really peaking
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>>78841146
Actually, no you can't, because Newgrounds forces a fucking video player now. Why can't I just view the flash file, as it used to be?
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>>78840784

The dialogue is shit but literally no one watches this series for the plot apart from twelve-year old kids.

I'm actually going through and rewatching the original series now to compare and the biggest difference is that the effects have gotten a lot more detailed and better-used in fights, and he makes use of a lot more perspective shots, whereas a lot of the first episodes have fights take place on a strict 2D plane.
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So does anyone remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUk-8yPFAUo

The plot's even shittier than SMBZ, but I really liked the animation. I'd hold it to at lest EP4 levels of quality. But I never learned who the guy was that animated these.
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>>78803041
Hello reddit!
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>>78842870
Anon that post you replied to is a day old.
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>>78843164
In that guy's defence, the age of the post doesn't mean the poster is any less of a faggot.
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>>78799465
>BOO YOU STINK

So perfect I honestly didn't even expect that.
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>/v/ thread 404'd
I guess the mod who allows fan animations went to bed and the anal faggot took his pace.

>>78843209
There are better ways to bump a thread if that was the goal.
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>>78799465
Holy fucking shit it's happening?!

I'm high is the episode out I'm down for this!
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>>78843398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-ErbSrTOc
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>>78843594
Looks just as shitty as when it originally ended
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>Plot summary:
Metal Sonic has gone rogue and turned against Dr. Robotnik. Fusing himself with all of the older Sonic robots to become a new super robot called Metallix. After nearly taking all the Chaos Emeralds, he goes on a genocidal spree in Mobius, killing nearly all the Sonic characters with the exception of Sonic and Shadow. Being hopelessly outmatched, Sonic and Shadow, in a last ditch effort, use their powers to teleport all the Chaos Emeralds to an alternate universe. That universe happens to be the Mushroom Kingdom. The Chaos Emeralds are scattered throughout the land and the combined forces of Sonic, Shadow, Mario, Luigi and Yoshi, must find them before Metallix gets to them.

>>78843338
I was the OP of the /v/ thread

The thread was pruned because they thought it was advertising and mod ended up giving me global block
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>>78843676
>The thread was pruned because they thought it was advertising
Who the fuck hire these mods?
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>>78799465
>it even has a fucking DBZ style commercial break card
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>>78843676
>advertising

Literally the only way it could possibly construed as such is if you linked his patreon in the OP. Did you?

If not this is blatant "I don't like seeing this on the first page" bullshit.
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>BOI-OI-OI-OI-OIING MHEHEHEH
It's like I'm 12 again
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>>78843719
Same thing happened yesterday

One of the mods let the thread live, then another just killed the thread. But then they allowed the very next thread to be open?

>>78843841

The OP just had a link to the video and text saying "It's back". There was no link to the patreon throughout the thread.

There's been recent complaints of perfectly good threads being deleted on /v/ too.
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>>78800823
There were several threads about this on /v/. They were actually pretty hyped, which is saying a lot since they hate every fucking thing.
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>>78843944
>There's been recent complaints of perfectly good threads being deleted on /v/ too.
Sounds like you're getting /a/'d
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>>78803666
>Rawk Hawk
>OC
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From a comment on the video
>Only the first episode will be a combination of older episodes. The old eps 1 and 2 were originally meant to be a single episode, but due to technical and resource limitations at the time, I had to split them up.
The next one will be pretty much the events told in episode 3, though I'll be bringing a few new things to the table.
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>>78840590
They listened to what was going on while being stuck in the capsule? Atleast, that's what happened in the first series. Haven't seen the new one yet.
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>>78799465
Why do I care? At this point I could produce smoother animation than the original. Did Alvin improve his skills or get a new animator?
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>>78846839
>watching videos is hard
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>>78843944
>There's been recent complaints of perfectly good threads being deleted on /v/ too.
Why are the /v/ mods deliberately making that board worse?
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>>78847092
>Thread on /v/ talking about the Rift
>People talk about the Rift
>People in thread being up RIFT cons
>Mods delete thread
Are the mods on /v/ shilling for the Rift?
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>>78842191
You could, but it's not a flash file.
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>>78799465
Woah woah woah, what does he need 5K for, exactly?
>Very few of the images he uses were created by him and not by Sega or Nintendo
If this guy is unemployed, he could easily poop out an episode once a month. That means he can make roughly 60k a year. Do you think nintendo is gonna send him a C & D anytime soon?
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>>78847800
Making money motivates people to work more than doing shit for free. Remember that he already quit this series once.

>Do you think nintendo is gonna send him a C & D anytime soon?

It's all a question of how visible his money making is. Nintendo is very inconsistent and unpredictable with what they kill and what they spare.
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>>78842770
That shit was on another level.
if Akuma makes it to SFV somehow I hope he has a beard also.or at least make that something you can customize in T7
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>>78815438
3D world was pretty recent, and nobody cares about SPP. Damsel in Distress has been her role since day 1, anon.
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>>78815481
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>>78809559
I liked the Mario kart scene better
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>>78848260
The point that anon was making was that Peach has plenty of show for not being a dumbass damsel.

>Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA)
>Super Mario RPG
>Super Paper Mario
>Super Princess Peach
>Super Mario 3D Word

While I can't imagine Peach getting a good fight scene in SMBZ due to her limited sprites, she does have more to offer than damsel
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>>78848191
I think it's pretty visible dude. He already knows how to use flash and he doesn't have to draw up a lot of his own images other than some custom sprites. Sprite animating isn't that difficult. I think Alvin or one of his friends are the people circulating the new episode online. If enough people donate to him he could pull in some money and quit his day job if he hasn't already. Nintendo would have to be silly to not to see the gain this guy can make.
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>>78848858
>I think Alvin or one of his friends are the people circulating the new episode online.
>implying he needs to
He doesn't have to. Some people were waiting years for this. They'll do the work for him. Shit, I was gonna make a thread for it, but I already got beat to it
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>>78847800
>If this guy is unemployed, he could easily poop out an episode once a month.
With this level of quality? I don't know.
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>>78848858
Considering that there are still people just learning that SMBZ is back at all and will remain unaware of the Patreon stuff, I'd say it's still not visible enough. Though like I said, Ninty is a bit unpredictable with lawsuits.

Difficulty isn't what made Alvin quit. Boredom, artist blocks, and getting tired of whiney fans are. Money though can motivate him to not sit on his ass for long periods. And he already lost his day job.

>Nintendo would have to be silly to not to see the gain this guy can make.

Nintendo is a dinosaur that takes like 10 years to adjust to changes in the world. They STILL think all modding is piracy stealing their money and their Pokemon underlings will sue a college kid out of 5k for holding a damn party just because he sold fliers with Pokemon characters.
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>>78801877
It's great!
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>>78849651
Speaking of mods , what the hell happened to Project M?
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>>78850366
Dev team pussied out just because they learned that Nintendo doesn't need to C&D them and can just drag them to court. Apparently, they got convinced that Nintendo was waiting for the next PM update to sue them. They don't seem to realize the most dangerous time was when PM was being hosted by MLG and Twitch allowed it to have its own game section.

But whatever. Development is dead, Majors don't run it, and sponsors are scared shitless if its at a big tourney. RIP Knuckles, Lyn (who were both pretty much done), Isaac, and Sami.
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>>78849493
>>78847800
These take months to make.
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>>78850794
So they killed their own competitive scene?
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>>78851229
It's still alive local wise. But with no more updates and less exposure thanks to major tournaments pretending it doesn't exist, it's not in a good place. There's also the whole thing of the unfinished update leaking with the balance changes and incomplete characters. Most want to "respect" the ex-PMDT's wishes and keep using the last official version, but its a tough pill to swallow.
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>>78850794
god damn nintendo. they have never changed. not since they tried to ban game genie
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>>78853517
Like I said though, there was no proof that Nintendo was ever going to skip their usual C&D thing or even contact the PMDT at all. They just didn't want to take the risk of Nintendo suddenly dragging them to court. Like the guy in Seattle who got dragged to court by The Pokemon Company. (more or less owned by Nintendo).
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>>78848858
I doubt they can do anything, this probably falls under parody like any given abridged series.
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>>78853665
The fact that it they turned a blind eye on PM for so long makes me doubt they were going to do anything in the first place. It's been up for years, and was even the most popular Smash scene for a while. It being competitive was basically a giant neon sign on its back.
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>>78850858
He apparently made the OP in 2 days.
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>>78827733
He prefers their SS sprites.
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>>78801591
It falls under fair use.

Something tells me Charles Martinet would love the fight scenes in this episode, since they all stay in character so well.
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>>78827733
I'm pretty sure he used whatever has the most animations made, fan or otherwise.
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>>78815182
He stopped the series because he was dealing with school and work and he had a lot of weird emotional issues he's since worked out.

He started continuing it again because a young friend of his who looked up to him as an animator died, and Alvin realized he had wasted his time drawing furshit. I think he'll see this thing through this time.
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>>78803041
>anything from Newgrounds is automatically bad because it's from Newgrounds
Do you people just shitpost on autopilot now or something
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>>78857144
I thought it was originally from Sheezyart, like Eddsworld.
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>>78810735
It's not remotely similar to Sonichu anon. Video game crossovers are not automatically similar to Sonichu. You're in no place to be calling others retarded.
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Does NG even have relevance anymore?

What does that site even do? Same old shit?
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Anons, stop. Newgrounds is kill, and sprite animation is a hollow shell of what it used to be. Newgrounds is dead, just like YTP is.
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>>78857238
Fuck you, you're not my real dad.
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>>78857209
>>78857238
Newgrounds is dead the same way 4chan is. Stop this meme.
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>After nearly taking all the Chaos Emeralds, he goes on a genocidal spree in Mobius, killing nearly all the Sonic characters with the exception of Sonic and Shadow. Being hopelessly outmatched, Sonic and Shadow, in a last ditch effort, use their powers to teleport all the Chaos Emeralds to an alternate universe.

Who wrote this edgy garbage
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>>78857361
Alvin, ten years ago,
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>>78857361
I have a feeling that story will be changed. At least I hope it will.
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>>78857371
>ten years ago
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>>78857361
Besides everything involving about Metal, there is nothing edgy about SMBZ.
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>Mecha is now Metallix

GOD DAMN IT
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>>78857402
Shadow is edgy in anything he appears in.
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>>78857402
You didn't know? If your series isn't sunshine and rainbows shooting from peoples asses 24/7 that means it's edgy.
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>>78857457
My favorite meme.
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>>78857457
Shadow struck me as a bit of a guilty loner bitch in SA2.
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>>78857448
>Metallix defuses because plot
>battle royalle between the heroes and the Sonic robots
>they all struggle but ultimately get their shit stomped in, except Mecha
>Mecha absorbs all of their power
>Mecha is somehow more powerful than Metallix now, but more unstable
Eh?
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>>78857457
>What is every appearance after '06
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>>78803666
Replying to ebin bait :^)
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>>78857531
>What is every appearance after Shadow The Hedgehog
ftfy
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>>78857539
He was pretty cringeworthy in 06

I hope Alvin plays Shadow's demeanor for laughs this time, like the comics do.
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>>78857476
He's quite the emotional type
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4OSFkcKAs
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>>78857546
>I hope Alvin plays Shadow's demeanor for laughs this time, like the comics do.

I hope he doesn't. The series strikes a good balance between it's serious moments and it's humorous ones already. Not everything needs to play out like a dumb gag.
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>>78857588
Fuck off Shadow. Having a serious brooding character with a few serious moments in a kiddy cartoon world is fine, but it shouldn't be played totally straight all the time, that's stupid.
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>>78857608
Are you trying to say SMBZ is a kiddy cartoon?
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>>78857622
Can you not read?
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>>78857608
You're wrong. You can play off Shadow's angst in the comics for laughs because he usually doesn't have a reason to be so angsty and brooding a lot of the time. You can not do that in SMBZ because Rouge and Omega were most likely killed not to long ago and their killer is still around. Here, he has a reason to be angry and emotional and trying to make jokes off of that just comes off as out of place and awkward instead of funny.
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>>78857608
The correct use of a brooding character is to force them into silly scenarios

A character who tries desperately to keep his dignity in silly scenarios and fails is much, much more amusing than a character that doesn't try, and infinitely more amusing than a character that tries and succeeds
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>>78857682
We don't know that yet.
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>people unironically buy into the ebin ow the edge meme
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>>78857730
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>>78840784
The quality goes up dramatically starting from ep 5. While the reboot ep 1 is leagues better than the original ep 1, the original ep 8 isn't far behind.
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I SEE NO HEAR NO EVIL
BLACK WRITING ON THE WALL
UNLEASHED A MILLION FACES
AND ONE BY ONE THEY FALL
BLACK HEARTED EEEVIL
BRAVE HEARTED HEEERO
I AM ALL I AM AAAALL IIIII AAAAAM
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>>78848858
>Sprite animating isn't that difficult.
Making sprite animation good is.
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>>78858145
Shadow the Hedgehog (+ Deviantart) was a mistake. The only thing good about it is the true ending.
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>>78858199
Wasn't too fond of him in Adventure 2 either. His initial premise that was presented is that he's a Sonic lookalike that acts arrogant/moody and causes trouble, right? He'd probably benefit from looking more like Sonic than he does.
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I prefer the old MechaSonic

He was much more threatening
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>>78857361
Showing Cream dying is abit edgy but killing the Sonic cast isn't necessarily edgy. Alvins point is that the series is a Mario parody and that as Sonics cast is already bloated its easier to just cull it. Otherwise it raises questions of why they would stay in Marios world at all at the end of the first series (which at the time he envisioned 3)

It also gives Sonic and Shadow greater motivations and raises the stakes in general.

I personally don't mind it but I'd like to see Knuckles and Omega put up a good fight against Metal. At least expanded.
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>>78859474
I guess that's a fair point.

And yeah, Knuckles is confirmed. Blaze is a possibility.
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>>78859436
G̕͜ȩ̢͠iỳe͏̕g̕u̧m̷̧
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OFFICIAL CURRENT POWERLEVELS

1. Metal Bowser
2.Fire/Cape Mario
3.Mario
4.Bowser
5.Wario
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>>78799612
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>>78859686
In the original at the end of ep 8 it was something like (averaging powers in base status and power-ups)
1. Mecha Sonic (Mecha Mario implied to be on par)
2. Bowser
3. Basilix
3. Mario and Sonic, about on par
4. Shadow
5.Yoshi
6. Luigi
7. Koopa Bros and Axem Rangers, more or less all on the same level
.
.
999. Wario & Waluigi

I wonder if the reboot is gonna give the Waaaahs a spotlight in combat scenes other than as comic relief, Wario games have a lot of potential for good and original power ups and special moves.
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>>78860114
I'd argue the Koopa Bros where weaker. Yellow could slip a mountain after all and Green/Black special could cut shit up. Red Axem could handle Mario for a moment Red Koopa not so much.

Shadow was probably the strongest of the Heroes, if we're talking about base form.
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>>78860311
I'd say Mario is on par or just slightly better. He way slower than the rest but he the was the only guy to make Mecha grunt in pain a few times.
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>watching the old series
>Mario Bros vs Koopa Bros vs Axem Rangers
>Texas Faggott kicks in

If Mark includes this song in a reboot episode, I will fucking die of hype.
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>>78855359
The use of copyrighted sprites, music, and trademarks is more than enough ammo for Nintendo to destroy Alvin. Parody doesn't protect that much.
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>>78856801
Monty Oum wasn't a friend. He was just another fan who contact him and credited him as inspiration. His death made Alvin confront the fact that SMBZ was an internet inspiration for a generation and that he was more than some obscure furry on Deviantart despite his attempt to return to that life.
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>>78817840
>>78815893
it was DCAU sex game based on the episode with the grill fight club
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>>78859474
I don't like Sonic's supporting cast getting killed off but I understand that it's a central conceit of the series. If Metal Sonic doesn't tear shit up in Sonic's world we have no story, and you can't really dump a dozen of Sonic's friends in a world that has a robust cast of its own. Alvin has stated that it's first and foremost of Mario series, and I'm okay with that.

It's just... why Shadow? Of all of Sonic's cast, he is literally the worst choice.
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>>78861631
Which can be used legally as long as it falls under parody. Even if he directly profited from it it would still be legal, as long as it falls under parody.
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>>78861739
Knuckles is alive and powering Mecha Mario
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>>78858976

I enjoyed Shadow in Adventure 2, but man has he been run into the ground since then. Much like ALL of Sonic since Adventure 2.
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>>78861739
Why is Shadow the worst choice?
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>>78861739
because shadow was already a sonic parody of vegeta, so might as well stick to what was already parodied
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>>78861932
His fighting style is just Sonic with angst and teleporting, he doesn't bring much variety to the table. Would've been cool to see Tails as the Krillin, maybe the incident on Mobius shaking him up and forcing him to mature a bit. Would have been a nice character arch.
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>>78861820
Parody arguments are pathetically weak when you literally rip the original work and put it into your work. It'd be one thing if he was using look-alike sprites and trademarks and soundalike music, but he's literally taking the original artwork and shoving it into his own work. That will not hold up in court.

Seriously, what parody argument is going to save the Nintendo trademark all over the stadium? Because all Nintendo has to say is "the use of our trademark makes people think we approve of this work".
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>calling Sonic's world Mobius

What a bizarre anachronism this is. I guess Mark needed a name to differentiate Sonic's world from Mario's, but Mobius was literally never canon in the games. It's a relic from 20+ year old American cartoons.
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>>78861739
I think I noted elsewhere in this thread..or maybe it was a /v/

Shadow just works better I guess. As a direct foil to the other heroes, as a vegeta analogue and his powers are a good excuse for plot.
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>>78862027
Mobius was canon to the comics until a few years ago I think. Ultimately though, people just prefer it over the Sega sanctioned "Sonic's world".
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>>78862027
It was called Mobius in the original Sonic bible. Are you saying Sonic isn't from Christmas Island either?

Not saying it's still game canon or whatever, I stopped following Sonic a while ago. But at one point it was.
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>>78862027
I remember in the Sonic 2 manual Mobius was stated to be Sonic's home world.
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>>78862144
I believe that was just a translation error and the original was just talk about the mobius strips on the level.
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I want a Birdo fight.
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Fire Sonic was one of the cooler things SMBZ ever did.
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>>78859436
>sonic uses a metal mushroom
>turns into metal/mecha sonic
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>>78857448
The Metallix name doesn't get enough play, as far as I'm concerned. Growing up with the Fleetway comics I always thought Metallix was the shit.
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the fuck is this? I remember this on newgrounds from like 2008. Why is it getting new episodes and why are people older then 10 still watching this?
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>>78864180
>Why is it getting new episodes
Guy who made it got inspired to reboot it after the guy who made RWBY died.

>why are people older then 10 still watching this?
Nostalgia and the fact that no matter how many years pass, the series had good fight scenes.
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>>78864282
>good fight scenes.
>Sprites
>Good
lel
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>>78864282
>the series had good fight scenes
as good as flashing sprites all over the screen could get.
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>>78864464
>>78864500
Would you prefer I say entertaining? Because the fact is they did bring joy to a whole lot of people. And I'll always enjooy the fights after ep 3.
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>>78861929
I think the hardest part about a Sonic game these days is attempting to jam every single fucking character into the games and also how to portray 'fast' without being 'too fast'.
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>>78864464
>>78864500
Yep, they are good. Animation in low resolution isn't inherently worse than in high resolution, if you know how to work with that.
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>>78864180
>why are people older then 10 still watching this
>Saying that on /co/ of all places
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>>78865120
it's not about low res or high res, It's about a fucking mario sprite spinning around with flashing "hit" particles.
Complete DeviantArt trash.
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>>78857402
But Metal is the main plot.
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>>78865242
k
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>>78857361
What's funny is the series has Sonic and Shadow totally unaffected character-wise. Mecha Sonic might as well have put them all to sleep they're so nonchalant about it.
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>>78865242
It all depends on execution, of course. Stating what it is then saying it is bad for that alone is a weak and shallow criticism.
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>>78865405
lmao, no it's trash because Sonic and crossovers are autistic, you child.
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>>78865592
Well, you've won this argument.
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>>78865592
Shit, can't argue with that.
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>>78803041
I found out about 4chan from newgrounds.

Back in 2005.
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>Everyone wanting these character fights.

Are you guys seriously forgetting the best fight was the Smithy fight? Especially when they all got rekt'd in one go Imagine that fight in Alvin's up to date animation and dedicated work. I'm watching this series again just because I want to see what he will change in that.

Also I want to relive the 8-bit call back episode.
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>>78866587
>Implying I'm not waiting for him to get to the Yoshi Island episode.

Don't think you're alone anon.
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>>78860114
Shadow easily was more powerful than Mario and Sonic, which was a bit annoying as he made the others feel a bit useless sometimes.
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>>78866587
I don't remember that at all actually, what episode was it form?
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>>78865242
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>>78865592
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>>78866740
All that power in exchange for not understanding the true power of teamwork.
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>>78866764
MY MISTAKE.
I meant the Axem Rangers.
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>>78866851
Oh, yeah
That'll be cool.
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>>78815420
lol remember when those fucks thought Lightning could beat WW?
and when the comment section had people saying that WW was female Supes?
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>>78867621
>Lightning
FF13 Lightning?
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Just finished rewatching the original episodes. The amount of growth Alvin showed in the time span between the first episode and the last was fucking phenomenal. Go back and watch the Doomship Offensive and look at all the work that went into custom spriting and creative fight choreography with them.

>>78866846

Pretty much, he winds up jobbing just because he charges in and tries to do everything himself instead of working together effectively with the rest of the characters.

The one thing that bugged the hell out of me is why the fuck they needed the Emerald radars if Shadow can sense where they are on his own.
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>>78867782
The Radar would be more for the others. To locate it.
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>>78867782
>The one thing that bugged the hell out of me is why the fuck they needed the Emerald radars if Shadow can sense where they are on his own.
Because Dragon Ball had Dragon Ball radars. So fuck it.
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>>78857608

Hilariously, he's probably the best part of Sonic 06 because the main villain assumes he's an edgy motherfucker and keeps trying to talk Shadow into taking over the world with him.

And Shadow just spends his entire storyline telling him to go fuck himself and kicking him in the face.

Even though that game overall is shit, I thought the way they wound up playing Shadow's character was pretty effective and made him come off as the only straight man in that trainwreck of a plot.
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>>78867782
Can't he only sense them nearby. Not like over long distance? Thought that was the reason
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>>78862027
The Classic Sonic games took place on South Island. The modern ones probably take place on Earth.
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>>78856519
Kek. This is what I mean, back in the day flash and editing software was a lot more limited back then. Now we have after effects, Flash & Photoshop CS6+ and I'd imagine Alvin is much more adept with flash than he ever was. I've seen plenty of animations the same quality as this new episode on youtube, albeit they were usually under 5 minutes. If he's chilling at home working on SMBZ all day and possibly night he can easily produce an episode monthly or bi-monthly. This guy can make a modest killing using nintendo, sega, namco and various other sprites. I'm not condemning Alvin for it, but he's clearly just pocketing the cash to buy more furry porn and vidya. You can't really put money into flash animation and to say you need money to motivate yourself to do something like this is a little sad.
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>>78868026

No, on Yoshi's Island, he specifically said "over long distances".

I'm more inclined to go with >>78867888
explanation though. Ultimately no one gives a shit about the plot and we all just hammered the space bar through the cutscenes to get around to the fight scenes. (and holy FUCK there's a lot of talking in the last few episodes. The pipe maze one was goddamn interminable with all the dialogue.)
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>>78867923
This .
Straight man agent guy Shadow >>>>>>shit>>>>> edgy Shadow
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>>78866587
The minus world isn't going to return, sadly.
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>>78861598

EVERYBODY GROOVE TO THE MUSIC
EVERYBODY GROOVE TO THE MUSIC
EVERYBODY GROOVE TO THE MUSIC
EVERYBODY JAM, AAAYYYYYI
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>>78868093
1 takes place on North Island, 2 takes place on West Side Island, CD that takes place on Little Planet/the Death Egg (above Never Lake) and 3&Knuckles which takes place on Angel Island.
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>>78868265
>north island
oops, meant south :p
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>>78868265
For a hedgehog who can't swim he sure goes to a lot of islands.
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>>78868159
I dunno man, as a straight man he's just a decent-to-meh character, but as an edgelord he goes into hilarious "so bad it's good" territory.
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>>78868356

I dunno I like him better as a pragmatic straight-man too. It makes him the Batman to the rest of the Sonic characters' Justice League.
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>>78868482
He couldn't be more different than Batman, but calling him the Vegeta is fair.
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>>78868538

Point taken. I'm more familiar with /co/ stuff than /a/ stuff so that's the comparison I defaulted to.
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>>78799612
>M*A*T*C*H
is this real
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>>78803666
I really hope this doesn't get posted in future threads.
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>>78840647
>>78840590
It would hilarious if Mario just completely blanks on Sonic's name
>"Hey, you're Mario, right? We met a few years ago at the Olympics!"
>"Hey...you..."
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>>78862003
>Would've been cool to see Tails as the Krillin

But nobody likes Krillin.
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>>78869410
Except 18
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>>78869484
>tails instead of shadow
>eggman cybernetically enhances and brainwashes daisy
>daisy for some reason has a thing for tails

It's horrible and cheezy as fuck but why do I want this?!
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>>78862003
Luigi is krillin
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>>78869410
Fuck you Krillin is the best character

>>78869987
If anything he's filling the role of Gohan
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>>78848531

Same here, I was REALLY disappointed when I saw he went for just a straight-up fight tournament rather than a kart race.

God damn a Mario Kart race with his current style would be INCREDIBLE.
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>>78870116
>If anything he's filling the role of Gohan
how?
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>>78870196
>weak crybaby coward
>dependent on their godlike older family member
>has unbridled raw potential that they have a hard time translating into skill

Does that sound like Krillin or Gohan
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>>78870116
>Krillin at average height
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>>78868322
He's got a airplane you fucking casual
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>>78870424
Maybe he's sitting in a booster seat
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>>78869620
B-but Diasy is Mario's bottom bitch.

And you shouldn't ship humaniods with anthros.
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I'm upset luigi blatantly cheated an no one was upset at this
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>>78870723
You could argue Waluigi was cheating as well. Since he was summoned Via an Assist Trophy he should have only been up there and only done his assist attack. And not taken that fire flower. At that point it became a two on one.
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>>78870723

To be fair, Wario and Waluigi kind of cheated first. Instead of doing his Assist Trophy thing and then disappearing, Waluigi stayed in court and them the Wa's ended up tag-teaming Mario into the ground.
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So is there an ETA on the next episode?

Because god damn I want some more glorious sprite animation, and I'm half-considering going back and watching shit like Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom to scratch it now.
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>mfw Alvin might use Metal Gear Rising music(s)
>mfw RUUUULES OF NAAAATUUUUUURE
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>>78870833
3-4 months could be less considering the only fight in the next episode is Metallix vs Yoshi
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>>78870905
>Metallix vs. Yoshi
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>>78868973
It already has.
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>>78870903
>picking the worst song in the game
>not ONLY LOVE IS WITH US NOW, SOMETHING WARM AND PURE
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What if Alvin dies before finishing this?
What if we die before he finishes it?
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>>78865592
Wew lad.
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>>78871560
Then nothing of value will be lost.
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>>78871435

The biggest problem with Rules of Nature is that it's got one hell of a chorus but doesn't do anything else really interesting.


Besides, everyone knows the best song is TIME TO LEAVE
THEM
ALL
BEHIND
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>Post YFW if Alvin manages to combine episodes 5 and 6 into one hour long special
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>>78872058

The big Yoshi's Island fight?
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>>78872058
>>78872103
Nah they'd still be seperate episodes.
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>>78872103
The one and only.
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>>78872143
Eh, most likely, but a man can dream.
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>>78872149

I just rewatched the series after the new episode came out this weekend, and honestly I'm still blown away at how well he manages to do a nearly twenty-minute fight without it getting boring. I mean, it's obvious where he lifts influence from (just look at the title of the series after all), but he strings together some really neat little face-off sequences to keep the pace of the battle moving.
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>>78803666
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>>78870132
Yeah. It also showed they were more capable than just fighting. I at least hope they show Mario's talents as a licensed doctor. Thats the funnest thing about Mario, hes a canon jack of literally all trades.
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I'm not sure that three-way fight will be good in the new series

I just rewatched it and noticed it's was in 2D, but more importantly, faster paced than the new series. Look at how the Bowser-Mario fight is compared to the old series fights.
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>>78872727
>5th chaos emerald is put into a trophy
>mario and team must enter the double dash koopa cup to win the trophy
>antics much like the dbz episode where goku had to learn to drive ensue
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>>78872765
Bowser's a lumbering heavy-hitter with solid defense fighting Mario one-on-one, of course they're not going to be pulling off the kind of fast moves we saw back in those team battle royales.
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>>78872058
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>>78872765
The First Bowser fight was slow compared to the others too.
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>>78857448
does he look the same?
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>>78875348
Yeah, I can't wait until it picks up completely. The Axim Ranger return is going to be so hype.
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>>78878854
metal sonic head on a megaman X body, the "final form" of mecha sonic from the original run of the series
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>>78868248
Y-you lie!

MINUS WORLD WILL RETURN! YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.
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>>78882234

That was kind of a weird tangent in the story anyways and Alvin wasted a LOT of time in textdumps explaining all that shit.

I mean for fuck's sake I just went through the original episodes again and that one is literally almost an hour long, with not even as much time spent on fight scenes.
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>>78882234
2: The Pipe maze episode will be removed
The whole episode in general was filler suggested by a fan of the series because I didn't know what to do for the 5th Chaos Emerald. With that said, I feel it was poorly executed on my part. It was too dialogue heavy. It spouted out unnecessary exposition that had no bearing on the plot. And who can forget the ridiculous Deus Ex Machina moment with Kolorado's stopwatch. The 8-bit parts were kinda cool, but to me it couldn't save it from being a bad episode.
http://alvin-earthworm-smbz.deviantart.com/art/Sprite-animation-practice-SMBZ-ep-1-remake-405291459
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>>78882349

The only bad part was getting bogged down in exposition to explain the Minus World. If he had just stuck to "everyone gets lost in the Pipe Maze" it would've worked a lot better. Especially if he uses the scenario to split off the team in interesting ways, and having the big fights in a confined space makes them feel a lot different than, say, the big brawl on Yoshi's Island where bitches get punted through mountains.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and push this over the bump limit.
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>>78882685
By the way it's derivative trash and the only people who like it is retards and nostalgic retards.
Sprite animation is lazy and hacky, ripping music and sprites isn't fair use and I hope Nintendo shuts this fucking degenerate down.
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>>78882722
Oh and I didn't even watch it but I honestly didn't need to. Fuck you all.
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>>78882759
I know one of you autists is going to start a new thread and I honestly don't care.
That's 500.
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>>78882788
If you didn't care you wouldn't have taken the time to go to the bump limit dumbass and ignored the thread.
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>>78882722
>>78882759
>>78882788
>I didn't look at it, but here's my opinion
>>>/v/
>>>/trash/
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>>78883099
Why'd you link to /v/ twice?
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>>78883099
You don't need to watch it to know what it is. I watched the original trash back on newgrounds and I'm surprised people miss it.
It's basically """"animated"""" fanfiction.
But feel free to take your vidya fanfiction to /v/ or /trash/ where it belongs.
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>>78883386
>people should listen to my single opinion
Again, please refer to
>>78883099
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