I am too old for this shit.
It is time for us to grow up and watch Home-tv shows like the rife-man or looney tunes. Or M*A*T*C*H
Why should I care?
It was gone too long to stay a guilty pleasure and the way he treated his fans is just another reason not to go back.
At least the guy who does arby n the chief got a film degree before cumming back.
>A good sprite animation
What a time to be alive.
You think internet sprite animation will ever make a comeback?
What are you doing?
This thread is already dead, no need to make it shit with your internet bravado.
that's kind of a sad way to spend a friday don't you think?
why cant you just watch the video and enjoy it man, why you gotta be like this
Anyone here who likes this is a fucking idiot memelord
I have to wonder where would he be now if he concluded it back in the Newgrouds era and continued sprite work.
He realized how shit/lackluster eps 1-4 were and thought he could improve the story.
from what I heard in the decade between the first episode of the original series and this reboot was that he wasn't happy with some of the choices he made for the story, and as he continued the original series he had begun to work more on re-writing it then doing actual work on the remainder of the series
I thought it was okay, but he needs to keep his dumb OCs out of it.
>LOL IT'S HULK HOGAN AS A CHICKEN XD
TURNS OUT YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE
THANKS FOR PLAYING, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY GOODBYE. YOU WON'T BE GOING HOME EMPTY HANDED, SO PLEASE ENJOY THIS COPY OF THE HOME GAME!
You're breaking my heart anon
Alvin made this guy. He won't be in the reboot though since Alvin felt he was an unnecessary addition in hindsight.
He had a cool fight though
Oh right, he also made fire sonic
I love it when people need to force themselves to be angry, bitchy, whiny, hateful, etc of something. It's like they have this unstoppable need to go into a thread about something they don't like and announce to everyone just how much they don't like/care about something, write paagraphs about why they hate/don't cate about it, and then act like they're incapable of understanding how anyone in the entire world, all 9+ billion other people on Earth, could like what they hate.
If you're doing it just to get kicks on the internet, I laugh at you. If you're so empty and bitter in real life that you need to do this, I pity you.
>Hey the thread seems to be recovering and a few people are having a nice discussion
>Better ruin everything by climbing on my high horse!
Chances are, they won't be the Axem Ranger heads pasted onto MMZ bodies since that was profoundly stupid as well. I mean, they're in the opening, so it's not like they'll be replaced.
How did you feel about the first episode?
I thought it was fucking
I want to like it, but showing enthusiasm for and enjoying anything is considered the greatest autism on 4chan, so to fit in and follow our board culture I must say that I hate it and hope everyone associated with it dies a cruel death.
>Mario puts the beat down on Bowser
>No SMACK MY BITCH UP
>but showing enthusiasm for and enjoying anything is considered the greatest autism on 4chan
On /v/ sure but on /co/ if you like something it'll get canceled after 1 season or have poor sales that lead to an earlier cancellation.
So in other words hate this as much as you can so that Alvin doesn't give up or end this show on a cliffhanger.
See what I mean? Everything is autism. You people don't even know what the word means anymore. Everything in existence is autism, especially when it's something you don't like. It's the king of the meme words on 4chan, which is ironic for a place that despises memes yet adopts other sites' memes as fast as possible.
Psst anon, you know what you should do to alleviate this issue?
Stop caring and discuss something you like, all it takes is one reply to blatant bait and some faggots hurt feelings to ruin a thread.
Finally watched it, and holy shit, it's fucking perfect. The fighting is as awesome as ever even in the first fucking episode (Especially impressive since it's been so long since Alvin's last SMBZ episode), the slapstick humor is still in top form, and the animation and audio are even better than before. Even the overall presentation is more polished, with the new opening, eyecatches, credits, and music for all these things (along with the music for the closing seconds before the credits, DBZ-style) is just sublime.
I thought it wouldn't live up to my expectations, but it fucking surpassed them. I can't wait until the next episode in like May.
S'fine. Almost all of them were MMBN bodies on looking back, save for Axem Red, who was using MMZ series Zero's body. Weird how he was the odd one out.
But yeah, like I said, I doubt they'll have the Mega Man bodies in the reboot, since I'm almost positive that Alvin dislikes that he did that back then.
So we'll probably see some custom sprites or something. Maybe.
Nice. Now, I didn't mind the Mega Axem Ranger Men back when I was a kid, but looking back, I can see how... lazy it was, I guess? Good on Alvin to put in an effort to really differentiate the reboot from the original quality-wise.
I'm glad he finally snapped out of his funk and whatnot. Shame it took Monty and Iwata dying to do it. With the first episode of the reboot done, it looks like he's really been making sure that he's putting out a product worth that 5k he gets per episode, and then some.
>In the original series, there was going to be a feature length episode that had Chaos as the main antagonist.
I really hope Alvin keeps that in the reboot. Mario and Luigi vs Perfect Chaos would be amazing.
>Mecha Sonic was going to hold a tournament, similar to what Cell did in Dragon Ball Z.
>Smithy was to serve as the Big Bad of the second arc, with the rebuilt Axem Rangers at his side. He would have also used Mecha Sonic's parts to build an Axem Ranger Blue.
>The third arc would have featured Princess Rosalina.
These as well.
Must be an awful lot of autistic people on Earth, then, especially in high places in the entertainment industry. Do they all also have the real symptoms of autism, not your "I don't like it therefore it is this" definition of the disorder?
When did the word autism become correlated with imagination and fun creativity?
Do you unironically believe every child who makes things up and had innocent fun with them is autistic? Do you believe all actors or directors or any people with a creative mind are autistic? Do you believe that people who spend all their free time anonymously shitting on what other people do and hating them for it isn't autistic?
No one in SMBZ is trying to cure gayness using their magic blood and railing at Gamestop, so it's nothing like Sonichu.
>everything I hate is the exact same thing!
Seems like you're the one with the mental problems hee.
>I've heard less boos in the Forever Forest
I remember announcing this a little while ago.
Oh and I remember when I saw Alvin Earthworm arguing with people in the comment section about Death Battle's Pokemon vs Digimon, and he was probably trolling, but it was kind of surprising.
That'd be real neat; maybe somewhere down the line, they could add
Silvertoo. On another note, did anyone else notice that Link was among the Smash fighters that didn't make to to the finals? Think we might get Link as a surprise seventh Ranger somewhere down the line? Could it mean a potential Hyrule Arc? Or am I overthinking this and it was just a nice little nod to the Zelda fans?
You're over thinking it. Link was in Mario Kart 8, so it's not hard to imagine him being in SMBZ
>Nope [he won't appear down the line]. That was just a little easter egg, since Link has appeared in Mario kart. Honestly, I was going to have nothing but Smash bros characters filling up the tournament grid, but a friend of mine suggested I change it.
Isn't Silver from the future though? If Silver existed at some point he was probably erased after everyone in Sonic's World was killed, That or maybe his world still has some survivors. Doesn't make that much sense for a single robot to destroy every single sentient living being on Sonic's World after all.
Ah well. Having Link show up would probably have been as likely as Mega Man showing up.
Though one has to wonder if, in the EXTREMELY unlikely case that he was, would they use the Power Battle/Power Fighters spritesets, or would he use something a bit more esoteric... or would he go the extra mile and use something completely custom-made?
Probably something of a similar height to Mario and Sonic, so I'd guess... the MM7/Power Battle/Power Fights spritesets? Unless he's willing to modify the more detailed MM8/MM&B spritesets.
>Yoshi will get btfo by Metallix in the next episode.
It's back? And I agree with some people here. Newgrounds isn't what it used to be, like when Randy Solem was around, making Mario vs Sonic, Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom, etc. Still pissed off about the first series being cancelled. I'll give the new one a chance though. Doubt it will be exciting as it was years ago.
It's bait, it's been posted in all the threads word for word
He said that his job was causing him stress and making the flashes were becoming a chore for him. He even threw a bitchfit around the release of ep 7.
Funny, he planned on making three sagas, each saga having 15 episodes. Took him like 6 years to make 8 eps. If he never cancelled it, it would be finished around 2025 or around there.
But he said he lost his job and now has all the time in the world to reboot it.
He made custom sprites. Captain Basilisx and Fire Sonic were OCs. Add the Axem Rangers X too. Mecha Mario is also one. In a way, Mecha Sonic is also an OC. His sprite appeared in the first couple of Classic Sonic games, just not with the role and personality he had in SMBZ.
>Done in Adobe flash CS3
Now I'm curious as to what his job was.
>But he said he lost his job and now has all the time in the world to reboot it.
And at 5k an episode.
>Are we going to see Princess Peach get into any fight scenes in this reboot?
>Princess Peach has always been a dumbass in distress and that's how she's gonna stay.
Aw, I wanted to see a frying pan or a flying hip somewhere.
Depends on the characters and the gameplay of their series, I guess.
>Princess Peach has always been a dumbass in distress
What are Paper Mario: TTYD, Super Princess Peach, and Super Mario 3D World?
I hope for another close up.
>That Bowser Jr. vs Metal Sonic video
>Classic Metal Sonic tries to stop Jr.
>Gets Blown the FUCK Out by the SMBZ design
>Beats the FUCK out of Jr.
>Stares Bowser down in the rain
Holy shit that was great. I've always hated Death Battle for some of the bullshit they've done, but I might get into 1-Minute Melee if they're all like that.
>luigi does nothing but get his ass kicked back and forth
I just want star fox the animated series already
I'm pretty sure Basilix was an antagonist from Asterix and Obelix.
Guys I'm really tempted to donate to the patreon. $10 every ~4ish months doesn't sound bad for supporting something I enjoy so much and having my name in the credits forever makes me feel fuzzy inside
Should I do it?
Trips convinced me, I already feel fuzzy
Godspeed Alvin you wonderful bastard
Why am I not surprised people who patronize this also patronize Breeding Season
A legally published rom hack with Mario sprites, and therefore better marketability in America.
If there was a better way to sell Doki Doki Panic in America, preferably without giving kids nightmares with those decapitated heads, I can't think of it.
It's weird how I'm able to see the post with the episode when you're only supposed to get that with $20+, hmm
No can do anon. I'm not going to backstab him if I'm willing to give him my dollarinos. 3 days is barely any time anyway, hardly a bonus
Time to get some food and spend 30 minutes pretending to be 12 again.
I am okay with this.
I think he was supposed to be like Vegeta.
He was fairly edgy, as per usual after Sonic Adventure 2, but not unbearable.
I know Nintendo and Sega have never really payed mind to this, but he really should cut back on the fucking trademarks.Now that he's making money, he needs to keep be more careful. Unless he has enough money to spare when the day comes where he BTFO of Ninty in court like Game Genie
>Adding a third series to an already crazy crossover premise
Don't wanna spoil that broth there, eh chef? I mean yeah, I'd love to see Mega Man too, but I doubt it'd work unless Alvin actually plans for that to happen far enough down the line to make sense or something.
Alvin hyped up his edgeyness to make him more a direct link to Vegeta, since Shadow wasn't really that bad in SA2.
In Universe they claim he changed due to rogue dying
>tfw DK is only a shonen-tier badass in his own games, but a dipshit goof and general buttmonkey whenever paired with another franchise
Skylanders seems to be an exception though
I hope Alvin remembered he punched the entire moon out of orbit onto the final boss in DKCR
>I'm not sure, really. I felt Fire Sonic's appearance in the series had more impact since it was the first time a Sonic character used a Mario power up. Doing it too often could end up diluting the experience.
Actually, Sonic used the star back in episode 6...
>been watching AGDQ 2016 all day
>come back to check /co/
I am overdosing on pixels right now
>Will all the fights be completely different form the original series?
>For the most parts yes. At the very least I'm remaking the fights from the ground up.
Aw, I was hoping that he would basically remake the big Yoshi's Island brawl with a lot more polish thanks to his increased animation prowess and maybe some added shots. I mean, how much could you really improve on that fight? Hopefully when we get there it'll at least feature some throwbacks to the original fight, like how Mario vs. Bowser did.
I'm pretty sure that with the added depth of field he's exhibiting, he'd be able to do some of the more memorable moments from new angles alongside new setpieces. Imagine, say, the Sonic vs Axem Green & Black section, the one where they form a giant axe wheel, with a greater ability to show the chase with depth instead of just Sonic running away from it on a 2D plane.
Honestly, it's sort of a minor fight, but I'm very interested in how he's going to update the Mecha Sonic vs Yoshi fight, which will probably be in the next episode of the reboot. I always loved that one in particular for just how one-sided it was and all the spots using Yoshi's tongue. Seeing all that shit with more depth should be fantastic.
What if episode 2 is all about Sonic's backstory, episode 3 is them finding Yoshi (and him battling Mecha Sonic), and episode 4 is them versus the Koopa Bros? Will episode 7 go straight to original episode 8's plot, or will Alvin just replace episode 7 with a different plotline? A real shame about him not liking the original episode 7 by the way, I loved it.
>Since you have Swivel, are you going to put textures on the Omega Doomship like you originally wanted?
>Oh, I will be collaborating with a talented 3D animator for the new version of the Omega Doomship. Trust me on this, it's gonna blow your mind.
GET MOTHERFUCKING HYPE
I liked the Doomship as it was though, I thought the low-poly aesthetic meshed well with the sprites
OP here, I made this thread on /co/ rather then /v/ for to reasons;
content may be game related, but it's an animation at it's core. kinda how RvB is more /co/ then it is /v/
/co/ doesn't hamfist rageposts anywhere CLOSE to what /v/ does, so we'd get more talk about relatively close to the content at hand instead of "stop liking this"
>/co/ doesn't hamfist rageposts anywhere CLOSE to what /v/ does, so we'd get more talk about relatively close to the content at hand instead of "stop liking this"
Ah, I understand.
I'm so glad that this is back. The Yoshi's Island episodes from the original series are undoubtedly the the pinnacle of sprite animation and the series as a whole still holds up pretty well today.
New- Episode 2 will be the Yoshi fight of the original Episode 3, Maybe Take the first part of episode 4, Sonics backstory, and add it too New-Episode 2.
That would allow for an extended Yoshi tribe fight and maybe an initial Axem fight.
Apparently the new Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal. Be interesting to see both the new sprites duking it out
>Apparently the new Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal
>even more brutal
>Yoshi vs Metal fight is going to be even more brutal
I didn't see a direct source, but apparently Monty's death is what got Alvin inspired to reboot it. He realized that he really had something with SMBZ, in regards to fight choreography, and remembered that it was actually a cited inspiration of Monty's. Apparently, he realized that now Monty will never see any closure to one of his inspirations, and decided to get off his ass and give it another go.
Gotta be honest, the side-by-side dedications to Oum and Iwata kinda took me aback a bit when I saw them.
>Original SMBZ inspired Oum's animations
>Oum's praise of OG SMBZ and his subsequent death inspire Alvin to revive the series and put the furry stuff on the back-burner
Man, that's kind of sad that a guy had to die to bring back one of my guilty pleasures.
>last one I saw was when I was 10
Why do I feel so old all of a sudden?
>Yet... I have taken it all for granted. And now, because of my procrastination and demotivation, Monty will never get to see it completed.
>I feel responsible. I feel like I have betrayed him. Betrayed everyone.
How does he know who Mario is?
>SMBZ was a huge inspiration for monty oum's work
I never knew that, call me stupid, but it's neat to know.
>even more brutal
Holy shit, how? I remember it being pretty barbaric.
He's been in crossover games with him. Or it could be a plothole.
Since Mario has no idea who he is, it's likely the latter.
Shit, I forgot about that.
I should rewatch the original.
Does it still hold up, or is it somewhat awkward?
The fight scenes still haven't been topped to this day.
A lot of humor is just slapstick involving Luigi, but it's still pretty funny after all these years.
Keep in mind that it's an old Newgrounds series, so you're gonna be seeing quite a few mid-late 2000s memes, and some cringey snippets of dialogue and backstory.
Other than that, it's great. The downsides I listed aren't even that bad, in fact I honestly think they're half the reason every 12-15 year old found the series so magical and endearing,
Episodes 1 through 3 aren't really anything special, though 3's Mecha Sonic vs. Yoshi scene is kind of intense
Episode 4 is where the fighting starts getting really good and episode 6 is where the series started really peaking
The dialogue is shit but literally no one watches this series for the plot apart from twelve-year old kids.
I'm actually going through and rewatching the original series now to compare and the biggest difference is that the effects have gotten a lot more detailed and better-used in fights, and he makes use of a lot more perspective shots, whereas a lot of the first episodes have fights take place on a strict 2D plane.
So does anyone remember this?
The plot's even shittier than SMBZ, but I really liked the animation. I'd hold it to at lest EP4 levels of quality. But I never learned who the guy was that animated these.
Anon that post you replied to is a day old.
>BOO YOU STINK
So perfect I honestly didn't even expect that.
>/v/ thread 404'd
I guess the mod who allows fan animations went to bed and the anal faggot took his pace.
There are better ways to bump a thread if that was the goal.
Metal Sonic has gone rogue and turned against Dr. Robotnik. Fusing himself with all of the older Sonic robots to become a new super robot called Metallix. After nearly taking all the Chaos Emeralds, he goes on a genocidal spree in Mobius, killing nearly all the Sonic characters with the exception of Sonic and Shadow. Being hopelessly outmatched, Sonic and Shadow, in a last ditch effort, use their powers to teleport all the Chaos Emeralds to an alternate universe. That universe happens to be the Mushroom Kingdom. The Chaos Emeralds are scattered throughout the land and the combined forces of Sonic, Shadow, Mario, Luigi and Yoshi, must find them before Metallix gets to them.
I was the OP of the /v/ thread
The thread was pruned because they thought it was advertising and mod ended up giving me global block
>it even has a fucking DBZ style commercial break card
Literally the only way it could possibly construed as such is if you linked his patreon in the OP. Did you?
If not this is blatant "I don't like seeing this on the first page" bullshit.
Same thing happened yesterday
One of the mods let the thread live, then another just killed the thread. But then they allowed the very next thread to be open?
The OP just had a link to the video and text saying "It's back". There was no link to the patreon throughout the thread.
There's been recent complaints of perfectly good threads being deleted on /v/ too.
From a comment on the video
>Only the first episode will be a combination of older episodes. The old eps 1 and 2 were originally meant to be a single episode, but due to technical and resource limitations at the time, I had to split them up.
The next one will be pretty much the events told in episode 3, though I'll be bringing a few new things to the table.
Woah woah woah, what does he need 5K for, exactly?
>Very few of the images he uses were created by him and not by Sega or Nintendo
If this guy is unemployed, he could easily poop out an episode once a month. That means he can make roughly 60k a year. Do you think nintendo is gonna send him a C & D anytime soon?
Making money motivates people to work more than doing shit for free. Remember that he already quit this series once.
>Do you think nintendo is gonna send him a C & D anytime soon?
It's all a question of how visible his money making is. Nintendo is very inconsistent and unpredictable with what they kill and what they spare.
That shit was on another level.
if Akuma makes it to SFV somehow I hope he has a beard also. or at least make that something you can customize in T7
The point that anon was making was that Peach has plenty of show for not being a dumbass damsel.
>Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA)
>Super Mario RPG
>Super Paper Mario
>Super Princess Peach
>Super Mario 3D Word
While I can't imagine Peach getting a good fight scene in SMBZ due to her limited sprites, she does have more to offer than damsel
I think it's pretty visible dude. He already knows how to use flash and he doesn't have to draw up a lot of his own images other than some custom sprites. Sprite animating isn't that difficult. I think Alvin or one of his friends are the people circulating the new episode online. If enough people donate to him he could pull in some money and quit his day job if he hasn't already. Nintendo would have to be silly to not to see the gain this guy can make.
>I think Alvin or one of his friends are the people circulating the new episode online.
>implying he needs to
He doesn't have to. Some people were waiting years for this. They'll do the work for him. Shit, I was gonna make a thread for it, but I already got beat to it
Considering that there are still people just learning that SMBZ is back at all and will remain unaware of the Patreon stuff, I'd say it's still not visible enough. Though like I said, Ninty is a bit unpredictable with lawsuits.
Difficulty isn't what made Alvin quit. Boredom, artist blocks, and getting tired of whiney fans are. Money though can motivate him to not sit on his ass for long periods. And he already lost his day job.
>Nintendo would have to be silly to not to see the gain this guy can make.
Nintendo is a dinosaur that takes like 10 years to adjust to changes in the world. They STILL think all modding is piracy stealing their money and their Pokemon underlings will sue a college kid out of 5k for holding a damn party just because he sold fliers with Pokemon characters.
Dev team pussied out just because they learned that Nintendo doesn't need to C&D them and can just drag them to court. Apparently, they got convinced that Nintendo was waiting for the next PM update to sue them. They don't seem to realize the most dangerous time was when PM was being hosted by MLG and Twitch allowed it to have its own game section.
But whatever. Development is dead, Majors don't run it, and sponsors are scared shitless if its at a big tourney. RIP Knuckles, Lyn (who were both pretty much done), Isaac, and Sami.
It's still alive local wise. But with no more updates and less exposure thanks to major tournaments pretending it doesn't exist, it's not in a good place. There's also the whole thing of the unfinished update leaking with the balance changes and incomplete characters. Most want to "respect" the ex-PMDT's wishes and keep using the last official version, but its a tough pill to swallow.
Like I said though, there was no proof that Nintendo was ever going to skip their usual C&D thing or even contact the PMDT at all. They just didn't want to take the risk of Nintendo suddenly dragging them to court. Like the guy in Seattle who got dragged to court by The Pokemon Company. (more or less owned by Nintendo).
The fact that it they turned a blind eye on PM for so long makes me doubt they were going to do anything in the first place. It's been up for years, and was even the most popular Smash scene for a while. It being competitive was basically a giant neon sign on its back.
He stopped the series because he was dealing with school and work and he had a lot of weird emotional issues he's since worked out.
He started continuing it again because a young friend of his who looked up to him as an animator died, and Alvin realized he had wasted his time drawing furshit. I think he'll see this thing through this time.
>anything from Newgrounds is automatically bad because it's from Newgrounds
Do you people just shitpost on autopilot now or something
It's not remotely similar to Sonichu anon. Video game crossovers are not automatically similar to Sonichu. You're in no place to be calling others retarded.
>After nearly taking all the Chaos Emeralds, he goes on a genocidal spree in Mobius, killing nearly all the Sonic characters with the exception of Sonic and Shadow. Being hopelessly outmatched, Sonic and Shadow, in a last ditch effort, use their powers to teleport all the Chaos Emeralds to an alternate universe.
Who wrote this edgy garbage
I have a feeling that story will be changed.
At least I hope it will.
>Mecha is now Metallix
GOD DAMN IT
Shadow struck me as a bit of a guilty loner bitch in SA2.
>Metallix defuses because plot
>battle royalle between the heroes and the Sonic robots
>they all struggle but ultimately get their shit stomped in, except Mecha
>Mecha absorbs all of their power
>Mecha is somehow more powerful than Metallix now, but more unstable
>I hope Alvin plays Shadow's demeanor for laughs this time, like the comics do.
I hope he doesn't. The series strikes a good balance between it's serious moments and it's humorous ones already. Not everything needs to play out like a dumb gag.
Fuck off Shadow. Having a serious brooding character with a few serious moments in a kiddy cartoon world is fine, but it shouldn't be played totally straight all the time, that's stupid.
You're wrong. You can play off Shadow's angst in the comics for laughs because he usually doesn't have a reason to be so angsty and brooding a lot of the time. You can not do that in SMBZ because Rouge and Omega were most likely killed not to long ago and their killer is still around. Here, he has a reason to be angry and emotional and trying to make jokes off of that just comes off as out of place and awkward instead of funny.
The correct use of a brooding character is to force them into silly scenarios
A character who tries desperately to keep his dignity in silly scenarios and fails is much, much more amusing than a character that doesn't try, and infinitely more amusing than a character that tries and succeeds
I SEE NO HEAR NO EVIL
BLACK WRITING ON THE WALL
UNLEASHED A MILLION FACES
AND ONE BY ONE THEY FALL
BLACK HEARTED EEEVIL
BRAVE HEARTED HEEERO
I AM ALL I AM AAAALL IIIII AAAAAM
Wasn't too fond of him in Adventure 2 either. His initial premise that was presented is that he's a Sonic lookalike that acts arrogant/moody and causes trouble, right? He'd probably benefit from looking more like Sonic than he does.
I prefer the old MechaSonic
He was much more threatening
Showing Cream dying is abit edgy but killing the Sonic cast isn't necessarily edgy. Alvins point is that the series is a Mario parody and that as Sonics cast is already bloated its easier to just cull it. Otherwise it raises questions of why they would stay in Marios world at all at the end of the first series (which at the time he envisioned 3)
It also gives Sonic and Shadow greater motivations and raises the stakes in general.
I personally don't mind it but I'd like to see Knuckles and Omega put up a good fight against Metal. At least expanded.
In the original at the end of ep 8 it was something like (averaging powers in base status and power-ups)
1. Mecha Sonic (Mecha Mario implied to be on par)
3. Mario and Sonic, about on par
7. Koopa Bros and Axem Rangers, more or less all on the same level
999. Wario & Waluigi
I wonder if the reboot is gonna give the Waaaahs a spotlight in combat scenes other than as comic relief, Wario games have a lot of potential for good and original power ups and special moves.
I'd argue the Koopa Bros where weaker. Yellow could slip a mountain after all and Green/Black special could cut shit up. Red Axem could handle Mario for a moment Red Koopa not so much.
Shadow was probably the strongest of the Heroes, if we're talking about base form.
>watching the old series
>Mario Bros vs Koopa Bros vs Axem Rangers
>Texas Faggott kicks in
If Mark includes this song in a reboot episode, I will fucking die of hype.
Monty Oum wasn't a friend. He was just another fan who contact him and credited him as inspiration. His death made Alvin confront the fact that SMBZ was an internet inspiration for a generation and that he was more than some obscure furry on Deviantart despite his attempt to return to that life.
I don't like Sonic's supporting cast getting killed off but I understand that it's a central conceit of the series. If Metal Sonic doesn't tear shit up in Sonic's world we have no story, and you can't really dump a dozen of Sonic's friends in a world that has a robust cast of its own. Alvin has stated that it's first and foremost of Mario series, and I'm okay with that.
It's just... why Shadow? Of all of Sonic's cast, he is literally the worst choice.
His fighting style is just Sonic with angst and teleporting, he doesn't bring much variety to the table. Would've been cool to see Tails as the Krillin, maybe the incident on Mobius shaking him up and forcing him to mature a bit. Would have been a nice character arch.
Parody arguments are pathetically weak when you literally rip the original work and put it into your work. It'd be one thing if he was using look-alike sprites and trademarks and soundalike music, but he's literally taking the original artwork and shoving it into his own work. That will not hold up in court.
Seriously, what parody argument is going to save the Nintendo trademark all over the stadium? Because all Nintendo has to say is "the use of our trademark makes people think we approve of this work".
>calling Sonic's world Mobius
What a bizarre anachronism this is. I guess Mark needed a name to differentiate Sonic's world from Mario's, but Mobius was literally never canon in the games. It's a relic from 20+ year old American cartoons.
I think I noted elsewhere in this thread..or maybe it was a /v/
Shadow just works better I guess. As a direct foil to the other heroes, as a vegeta analogue and his powers are a good excuse for plot.
It was called Mobius in the original Sonic bible. Are you saying Sonic isn't from Christmas Island either?
Not saying it's still game canon or whatever, I stopped following Sonic a while ago. But at one point it was.
Fire Sonic was one of the cooler things SMBZ ever did.
>Why is it getting new episodes
Guy who made it got inspired to reboot it after the guy who made RWBY died.
>why are people older then 10 still watching this?
Nostalgia and the fact that no matter how many years pass, the series had good fight scenes.
>the series had good fight scenes
as good as flashing sprites all over the screen could get.
I think the hardest part about a Sonic game these days is attempting to jam every single fucking character into the games and also how to portray 'fast' without being 'too fast'.
it's not about low res or high res, It's about a fucking mario sprite spinning around with flashing "hit" particles.
Complete DeviantArt trash.
>Everyone wanting these character fights.
Are you guys seriously forgetting the best fight was the Smithy fight?
Especially when they all got rekt'd in one goImagine that fight in Alvin's up to date animation and dedicated work. I'm watching this series again just because I want to see what he will change in that.
Also I want to relive the 8-bit call back episode.
>Implying I'm not waiting for him to get to the Yoshi Island episode.
Don't think you're alone anon.
I meant the Axem Rangers.
Just finished rewatching the original episodes. The amount of growth Alvin showed in the time span between the first episode and the last was fucking phenomenal. Go back and watch the Doomship Offensive and look at all the work that went into custom spriting and creative fight choreography with them.
Pretty much, he winds up jobbing just because he charges in and tries to do everything himself instead of working together effectively with the rest of the characters.
The one thing that bugged the hell out of me is why the fuck they needed the Emerald radars if Shadow can sense where they are on his own.
>The one thing that bugged the hell out of me is why the fuck they needed the Emerald radars if Shadow can sense where they are on his own.
Because Dragon Ball had Dragon Ball radars. So fuck it.
Hilariously, he's probably the best part of Sonic 06 because the main villain assumes he's an edgy motherfucker and keeps trying to talk Shadow into taking over the world with him.
And Shadow just spends his entire storyline telling him to go fuck himself and kicking him in the face.
Even though that game overall is shit, I thought the way they wound up playing Shadow's character was pretty effective and made him come off as the only straight man in that trainwreck of a plot.
Kek. This is what I mean, back in the day flash and editing software was a lot more limited back then. Now we have after effects, Flash & Photoshop CS6+ and I'd imagine Alvin is much more adept with flash than he ever was. I've seen plenty of animations the same quality as this new episode on youtube, albeit they were usually under 5 minutes. If he's chilling at home working on SMBZ all day and possibly night he can easily produce an episode monthly or bi-monthly. This guy can make a modest killing using nintendo, sega, namco and various other sprites. I'm not condemning Alvin for it, but he's clearly just pocketing the cash to buy more furry porn and vidya. You can't really put money into flash animation and to say you need money to motivate yourself to do something like this is a little sad.
No, on Yoshi's Island, he specifically said "over long distances".
I'm more inclined to go with >>78867888
explanation though. Ultimately no one gives a shit about the plot and we all just hammered the space bar through the cutscenes to get around to the fight scenes. (and holy FUCK there's a lot of talking in the last few episodes. The pipe maze one was goddamn interminable with all the dialogue.)
EVERYBODY GROOVE TO THE MUSIC
EVERYBODY GROOVE TO THE MUSIC
EVERYBODY GROOVE TO THE MUSIC
EVERYBODY JAM, AAAYYYYYI
1 takes place on North Island, 2 takes place on West Side Island, CD that takes place on Little Planet/the Death Egg (above Never Lake) and 3&Knuckles which takes place on Angel Island.
I dunno man, as a straight man he's just a decent-to-meh character, but as an edgelord he goes into hilarious "so bad it's good" territory.
>tails instead of shadow
>eggman cybernetically enhances and brainwashes daisy
>daisy for some reason has a thing for tails
It's horrible and cheezy as fuck but why do I want this?!
Fuck you Krillin is the best character
If anything he's filling the role of Gohan
Same here, I was REALLY disappointed when I saw he went for just a straight-up fight tournament rather than a kart race.
God damn a Mario Kart race with his current style would be INCREDIBLE.
>weak crybaby coward
>dependent on their godlike older family member
>has unbridled raw potential that they have a hard time translating into skill
Does that sound like Krillin or Gohan
B-but Diasy is Mario's bottom bitch.
And you shouldn't ship humaniods with anthros.
You could argue Waluigi was cheating as well. Since he was summoned Via an Assist Trophy he should have only been up there and only done his assist attack. And not taken that fire flower. At that point it became a two on one.
To be fair, Wario and Waluigi kind of cheated first. Instead of doing his Assist Trophy thing and then disappearing, Waluigi stayed in court and them the Wa's ended up tag-teaming Mario into the ground.
So is there an ETA on the next episode?
Because god damn I want some more glorious sprite animation, and I'm half-considering going back and watching shit like Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom to scratch it now.
>mfw Alvin might use Metal Gear Rising music(s)
>mfw RUUUULES OF NAAAATUUUUUURE
What if Alvin dies before finishing this?
What if we die before he finishes it?