Just wanted to let you guys know Michael C. Hall will play Iron Fist in the upcoming Netflix series. No it is not official yet, and don't even bother asking how I know. If you really think about the background of the show, of course he is going to play Danny.
>Everyone in K'un L'un is white as a comprise
>They teach him white martial arts instead of Asian ones
Yeah, the thing is that asian's like white action heroes. To get better asian audiences in the netflix market, a white dude will actually sell better, is the thing.
Also, there's way less options for big black guy who can actually act than pretty white boy surfer dude, and black people age a bit better, skin-wise.
Hi, Kevin Feige here, I can confirm OP did a lie and this is not true
Iron Fist will be cast as a female black person. I just wanted to let you guys know, and there's no reason for you to ask about why I know this, don't even bother.
Please be excited for Captain America: Civil War
it's just rumors
Who the fuck is going to play Shang-Chi?
Isn't there enough forehead in this fucking universe?
They're not allowed to have characters from a movie in these shows
They're afraid the show would become more popular than the movies
This is why Agents of SHIELD is like Marvel's D-Listers: the series. It's a miracle they were allowed to use Fury and Hill
>Foggy help! My hair is trying to escape!
Daredevil is an A-lister though.
Plus Ben does TV so they can have him make a few appearances. Also I doubt the Netflix shows getting more popular is a problem to them. It's all the same fucking brand.
It's because Shang-chi doesn't have a property in development, Danny does.
>Implying he wasn't amazing in "The Guest"
Boy was serving some Danny Rand realness, if I ever saw it.
I'd like to see them cast someone unknown just for the heck of it.
Can't he just shave it off and wear a wig? Why is there so much stigma around it? Wigs can look pretty unnoticeable and it'd be a lot easier to manage for the production. Is it an ego thing?
>Be honest, Foggy. How does my hair look?
No! I know people are pissed that the white martial-artist is getting a series/movie film (and that's because of his connection to Luke/Street-level) , but I don't want Shang as a second-stringer in Danny's show. He needs a movie.
Give me good reasons. They will eventually crossover in the films so why not have someone make a cameo. Especially considering the defenders is going to be a big fucking deal. It's the Avengers of TV. They're gonna want to promote the fuck out of it.
>They will eventually crossover in the films
Seriously, they have never once ever said that TV and film would crossover. You just assume this because you have high hopes. They'll remain separate even up until the big climax of Infinity War.
>Foggy? Where are you Foggy? I need to know why my computer has a screen.
They have no reason to even bring these characters into a movie. Don't you see that? There's enough going on as is. Age of Ultron was a sloppy clusterfuck because they tried to use like 12 characters at once. You really think they'll introduce more? After they're already bringing in Black Panther, Inhumans, Captain Marvel, and Doctor Strange in addtion to all of the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy?
Why the fuck would anyone do this? Just to give you good fanboy feels while the narrative suffers as a consequence? Come on man, quit being an idiot.
Yes, but as of right now the most definitive answer we have is no. Maybe it's not as concrete as it sounds, but it doesn't seem like there's any wiggle room today. Tomorrow? Who knows.
Oh, boy. Now we're getting somewhere.
You are without a doubt the biggest retard I've ever seen on this website.
Why the fuck wouldn't they do that. More characters means more money for them. Plus they have competition now.
>allegedly very well.
Would you say it's better or worse than what they said about AOU pre-release?
I'd say it's better solely on James Gunn's reactions. So far the dude hasn't failed me, so I don't have any reasons not to believe him. If the movie sucks, which it might, then I'll reconsider, but he showed no love towards AoU, criticized Iron Man 2, and praised Ant-Man and WS, which so far align with my opinions.
I might be wrong, of course.
How are you going to put like 50 characters into one 2-hour movie and still have a coherent plot? Whedon struggled with what he had. You think somebody would seriously be able to put ALL of Marvel's characters together and have it work? You think they would be willing to pay all of those people?
You're the retarded one. Your high hopes have blinded you from seeing any kind of logic here
>*sniff* *sniff* Foggy, did you just shit yourself?
Whedon managed to give most characters enough to do. Maybe Thor and Widow got a bit of the shaft, but they were still there. I'd imagine most of them would be managed as groups, with just a few lines from their 'leaders'.
You 12 year olds and your exaggeration. You think any movie is a cluster duck if it has more than 5 characters.
Next you're gonna say justice league won't work. Maybe legends of tomorrow won't work either. There's like a bazillion characters.
>Next you're gonna say justice league won't work. Maybe legends of tomorrow won't work either.
Both would have much smaller casts than this proposed line-up of all Marvel movie and TV heroes, even IF you combined Justice League and Legends of Tomorrow together
I don't think you're even thinking about the shit you're typing to be honest
It's based on a misconception of his origin that got spread by an Asian person, and in online social justice you aren't to question minorities, and GamerGate happened, which made people extremely binaristic on the political scale. So people believe his interpretation without question, and without research. And now it's a meem that won't die. Even Kevin Smith's podcast talked about Iron Fist, problem is their version of Danny is based on the fabrication of his character/origin.
see this post RE: The Asian-American or White Saviour ComicAlliance article.
>Okay, thanks, that actually made me think of some things. That writer has very clearly never read anything centering around Iron Fist, which you can tell because they clearly don't grasp his origins. His article never mentions that Danny's father himself was an adoptive citizen of K'un Lun, that his expedition with his family and business partner was him trying to return to his home, that the expedition ended with Danny being orphaned. It never mentions that Danny was nine when he was stranded in the mountains, too young to have any real conception of his cushy life in America, that he found the city on his own after, or that he was adopted and naturalized by a man respected in the community. Danny was a citizen of the City of the Immortals, not a "tourist." He was an immigrant. The culture of K'un Lun is the culture he knows and understands, not the culture of America, where he was born.
>Naturally, not understanding or at least acknowledging that, he never discusses what it means to be raised the adoptive son of one culture and return to the one of which you were an organic part. Understanding only that Danny is privileged in America, affluent, handsome, blue-eyed, white-skinned blond, but not that his natural social superpower is something Danny is unaccustomed to. It's something he explores. Remembering that he was raised as the outsider in a society without wealthy extravagance, consider how he would feel returning to America where he is king. He wouldn't, as perhaps most men of his status do, take it for granted, he wouldn't believe that his life was typical, or that the lavishness and prejudice of the other men in his new social circle were ordinary. If you are looking for white privilege to be explored by any super hero, you can't look much farther than Danny Rand.
Was this written by Captain America or something? It's fucking perfect.
no other choice unless they're going asian.
Or they can go half asian and make everyone unhappy
Shit. With his beard, I just realize he kinda looks like a more Irish potato version of myself.
Or I look like a more Greek version of him, like Matt and Elektra's Greeky lovechild.
This, Danny's story isn't of a "White Saviour" and/or "Mighty Whitey", it's the story of a child of privilege being raised as a ethnic minority in one culture and then being suddenly thrust into a privileged position again. He eventually sees how his new gained privileges affect those around him. In his job, surrounded by rich white dudes, and Harlem mostly populated by America's ethnic minorities.
But, ALL people want to do is myopically fixate on his origin story, and get it completely wrong. I've seen people compare his story to "The Last Samurai", and "Dancing with wolves", as though that even remotely matches the tone of Iron Fist.
People also compare him being white to "Yellow face", like what?! All I can thing of is the misconception of people thinking Marvel creating a Kung-Fu character without an Asian lead, while conveniently missing out Shang-Chi.
Ironically stepping over the non-white guy.
I don't know how to feel, when I could get paid to write with authority about a character I know jack shit about, other than what I've heard through the grapevine. Is this why people dislike ComicAlliance so much?
Though how is the last samurai a mighty whitey story. The most mighty he gets is barely winning a sparring match after months of getting beat mercilessly. He can't be a white saviour because the Samurai are massacred.
Nigga, I didn't like pretty much everything but Seasons 1 and 4, but it is not some of the worst writing on all of television. There is a lot worse out there. Hell, there's worse out there on Showtime.
Never watched the movie before, but this is the example I see being used all the time. I do see people dispute it though, as not a movie "where a white guys saves all the non-whites".
A white guy winning at something doesn't necessarily make him a "mighty whitey" either.