invincible ironman #5 storytime

>>78721603
Bendis?

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>>78721620
the writer bendis

>>78721603
Hahaha?

>>78721626
I'm really loving her new mask

Bendis benis Benix beni

>>78721688
>magnet
>on human
w-what

>>78721725
Her jewlery I guess

>>78721725
>>78721735
Or maybe how Magneto warps his personal magnetic field to fly?

>>78721735
Gold and silver aren't magnetic.
They'd also probably tear off her before they'd pull her towards him. It's just dumb bullshit because bendis couldn't think of anything better.

>>78721749
Maybe.

>>78721760
Body piercings. Lots of them.

>>78721760
Bloodstream has iron in it.

>>78721793
imagine getting them all torn out of you by a massive magnet

jesus christ

>>78721808
For the trace amounts to be pulled you'd need a magnet force so large you'd literally pull cars INTO the building. Think about that for a second. Think about how dumb that idea is, just for a second.

>>78721831
And do you think Iron Man's suit can't pinpoint that? These are comic books, if you're going to be autistic, think before replying. Think before telling people they should be thinking.

>>78721611
Already. Fucking on page 1. He gets MJ's personality just so fucking wrong.

Thanks Bendis!

This would be so much better if Bendis just let the artist tell the story instead of words words words.

>>78721840
disgusting

>>78721840
>All of this was totally worth it just for that
NO IT WASN'T.

>>78721840
Ew

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and thats all

>>78721840
Has Strange been hanging out with tweens lately with that sort of dialogue?

>>78721697

Pffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttttttt hahahahahaha

>>78721902
praise jesus

I like it.

>>78721844
Pinpoint WHAT. You fucking retarded asshole, that wave coming out of his fist was going EVERYWHERE.
Do you even know how magnetism works? How can magnetism PINPOINT ANYTHING. You mentioned ACTUAL MOLECULES OF FE CONNECTED TO HEMOGLOBIN. A human on average has only 52 mg of iron per 100 cc of blood. Can you do the math on that, you actual special needs poster?

Feeling /co/ntrarian today, eh?

>>78721902
>MJ's face
Yeah, okay

>>78721725
>>78721735

Honestly it's more likely just a regular tractor beam, that Tony lazily/metaphorically calls "magnet".

I'm surprised none of you mentioned this option, as it's a) plausible and b) not retarded

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>>78721669
>smug smug smug

>>78721840
What the fuck is Marvel doing to Strange?

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>This is Marvel's flagship book

You know, I have such mixed feelings here.

I'm a harsh critic of Bendis's team books. I'm the guy who did those infamous pre-emptive re-writes of Uncanny X-Men 600. But I've always said his solo books were great. Daredevil was great. Alias was great. Ultimate Spider-Man was great. And this is pretty damn good.

I just look at this and I wonder why he can't bring THIS kind of A-game to his team books. Because I really quite like this, and I'd become so accustomed to hating him.

It was awful.
Kill yourself bendis

>>78721812
Especially the taint. Having lots of taint piercings may seem like good idea at time until some guy in a red robot suit use his vague magnetism powers on you. Then....then there is nothing but regret.

>>78722033
>And this is pretty damn good.
Nope.

>>78721840
Goddamnit. Up until the last panel this was a perfectly serviceable Strange, in his classic outfit, no less! And then he goes and memes it up.

This is a man who's probably around 50, who was an arrogant surgeon, who then lost everything and went to fucking Asia to train with magic monks who taught him magic and patience, and has spent the past couple of decades fighting interdimensional forces of darkness at great personal cost.

He isn't Batman-level serious, but he isn't Matt Smith-Doctor campy either. Don't make him into this Whedonesque quipster. That's fine for Tony or Pete, but not Stephen.

>>78721611
>Every time
>Every time a superhero show up in my life, I have to start over
Other than Spider-Man when has this ever hapened? You make it sound like a regular ocurrence. And the only reason you had to "start over" because of Spider-Man (which is only ONE time) was because you broke up with him

>>78722085
>opinions

This was fucking stupid.

>>78722087
>This is a man who's probably around 50
AHAHAHAHAHA, not anymore bitch. Look at his temples. He's in his late thirties at best now.

>>78722101
>sales

So MJ only cares about herself, her club and people hitting on her...

Yet despite vocally being characterised as a vapid, selfcentred arsehole she's still willing to hit demongirls over the head.

BENDIS!

>>78722094
She WAS a super hero at one point.
Called herself Jackpot. Am..am I the only one who remembers this?

>>78722117
>implying
My father's 55 and he has almost completely black temples, virtually zero gray hair.

But I agree, he does seem a bit younger here.

>>78721809
>People playing with forces beyond them
Is it me, or does Bendis REALLY like this trope? He really likes emphasizing how out of their depth mere puny humans are, even the heroes

>>78722155
>jackpot
She is literally just catchphrase the character.

>>78722155
>BND Spider-Man

There's your mistake.

God, that period was so fucking weird. Menace, Mister Negative, all these new characters rapidly introduced and then just forgotten.

>>78721626
Victor Von Doom? Did she say Victor Von Doom?

>>78722117
>Marvel removes his grey temples
>MCU gives him grey temples
>Marvel brings grey temples back
You know it'll happen

>>78721849
How exactly is a super-villain attack a P.R. Nightmare? Those things happen all the time in the MU

>>78721849
Why is Tony introducing himself to MJ? SHE LIVED IN AVENGERS TOWER. Did OMD retcon Spidey being on the Avengers? Couldn't be, because he stayed on the team afterwards and nobody said anything.

I thought it just made people forget his identity, but does that somehow mean "oh, and everyone tangentially related to him that you've met?"

And anyway, even if that's somehow the case, why would MJ not remember him in turn? SHE KNOWS TONY STARK. It's not like this was ages ago, BENDIS WROTE THIS HIMSELF. IN NEW AVENGERS.

Marvel continuity: Lol what? since [insert date age here]

>>78721840

I took this as Strange making fun of Stark's earlier inanity here; a bit of dry, ironic wit to catch Tony off-guard. Read that way, I like the line.

>>78721849
>thing that happens in Marvel NY literally everyday
>PR nightmare

>>78721859
So MJ is just the new Pepper Potts? Gotta keep up that ginger quota, huh, Tony?

>>78721859
Um, does Tony Stark not remember the fact that MJ used to LIVE IN AVENGERS TOWER? THEY KNOW EACH OTHER

>>78722033
Honestly, this is on par with the latter stuff in New Avengers v1. So not Bendis at his best, but better than his usual fare right now, and far better than his X-Men.

>>78721849
>>78721859
Soooooo despite MJ living in your tower and hanging around the Avengers for months... you have no idea who she is Tony?

Masterful writing, Bendis! Bravo!

>>78722155
That wasn't her, it was someone who hapened to look exactly like her because Dan Slott and co were trolling us

>>78721611
>>78721849
Bendis has never actually read a comic with 616 MJ in it, has he?

>>78722257
It gets worse, we know for a fact this wasn't erased because after OMD, MJ and Peter discussed having lived in Avengers Tower with Carlie Cooper

>>78722257

If I'm not mistaken, nobody aside from MJ herself has any memory of her and Peter ever having been married. If so, Tony wouldn't remember her living with him because that only happened because of a wedding which in his version of the past never took place.

>>78722295
Blame Peter's deal with Mephisto for that one

Though I thought MJ would have remembered living in Avengers Tower

>>78722191
I remember Paper Doll too.
They where billed as new enemies for Spider-man after 'bong' happened. Then they forgot all about them and went right back to his old foes.
What a waste of time and characters.

>>78721907
Its a throwback to an earlier issue. Tony says that to Strange.

>>78722257
Post Secret Wars is still a line wide soft reboot, and that gives Bendis the opportunity to care even less about researching before writing and just drum it up to the reboot.

>>78721872
>Super heroes
>Again
>I remain so completely and utterly screwed
THEN DON'T ACCEPT THE JOB.
Literally nobody is forcing you to, don't act like superheroes are "forcing" their way into your life

>>78722279
Didn't bendis compare dropping pepper and picking u mj as trading your ild car for a new model? Seems the kind of comment that should be getting bendis some flak.

>>78722314
Of course he didnt

>>78721970
>I'm surprised none of you mentioned this option
You're giving Bendis far too much credit.

>>78722275
Her new club wasn't in NYC.

Her competitors could try to say something like "New Yorkers bring their supervillain problems with them wherever they go"

>>78722324
Nope, MJ explicitly referenced living in Avengers Tower during Big Time >>78722315
Wish I had the page

>>78722033
>And this is pretty damn good.
Eh. Its serviceable. Character's personalities are completely out of whack, though.

>>78722232
Why do the comic people even attempt synergizing with movies BEFORE the movie even takes shape? It's like those fuck awful McNiven designs for the GotG that they actually expected to get used for the movie.

>>78722325
Nope, never happened.
Pete and MJ never got married; therefore she never lived in the tower. And never had a baby.

>>78722257
Wait, I just realized, this is technically not a continuity error.
Tony Stark wiped his mind after Dark Reign. He didn't remember anything from an indeterminate point before Civil War onward.
That means it's plausible for Tony Stark to not remember MJ. MJ not knowing Stark on the other hand...

>>78722349
I wonder how much replacing Pepper with MJ has with Bendis being slapped by Feige.

>>78722155
No she fucking wasn't. Go read the Jackpot story again, retard. Her name was Alana Jobson. Everyone just thought it was MJ.

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>>78722324
>>78722388
>>78722325
>>78722295
They did live in the Tower

>>78722398
Yeah, you can handwave Tony not remembering with a few different plotpoints (OMD, Dark Reign), but MJ has zero options.

The only possible explanation is that she was lying to him to protect Mephisto's spell or something, but her internal monologue discredits that theory.

So we're left to assume that Peter and MJ never lived in Avengers Tower, and that, logically, NA v1 never happened. By extension, neither could NA v2 and A v4 (I think).

Congratulations, Bendis. You just un-wrote your own fucking Avengers stories.

>>78722191
Negative is still being used, he's the main villain in this week's ASM

>>78722454
>So we're left to assume that Peter and MJ never lived in Avengers Tower
Except they totally did >>78722446

>>78722474
Bendis knows they lived in Avengers Tower, he said so in an interview

>>78722325
But she did. Peter and MJ even talk about it with Carlie Cooper.

>>78722388
They didn't get married and never had a daughter

But they lived together in sin so most of the stories still happened the same way.

>>78722109
You're fucking stupid haha

>>78722500
Then why is he writing the characters like they've never meat each other?

>>78722349
>Seems the kind of comment that should be getting bendis some flak.
...Why aren't we giving him flak for it?

>>78722324
Does MJ remember the deal? People seem to assume that (just the same as people insist that she was pregnant in OMD) but was it ever specified by editorial that she remembers? I thought the company line was she tricked Mephisto into disrupting the timeline but erasing his involvement (like that made any sense) so she did'nt remember the deal either

>>78721654
What are Captain Britain parties like?

>>78722454
I think it's more the case of Bendis expecting this to bring in a lot of new readers and thinking that they would be too stupid to understand that two people might have known each other before the story began.

>>78722179
Yeah, he did the same thing in Avengers Assemble and GotG. treating Earth like "it's not ready" to deal with cosmic stuff or some crap

>>78722538
Perhaps we need to keep reading. Peter will be guest-starring sometime in the next arc too

>>78722345
Shut up.

>>78722520
your mom is fucking stupid haha

>>78722249
>>78722275
Bendis is trying to apply realism in a setting where unrealism is normal.
Actually, even in the real world it wouldn't make much sense. If a nightclub was attacked by criminals, that wouldn't ruin the nightclub's PR. If anything it would be free publicity.

>>78721840
I liked Strange better as an Ozzy Osborn rip off.
And that is saying a lot.

>>78722325
>Blame Peter's deal with Mephisto for that one
All that did was remove the fact that Peter and MJ were married. They still lived together. Read One Moment In Time, all that was changed is that Peter missed the wedding ceremony. That's it.

>>78722563
YOU GUES ARE TOTALLY NOT READY OKAY
>Have had active relations with multiple pantheons
>Invaded by aliens many times, was a key stage for several intergalactic wars
>Fought demons, both on Earth and in Hell(s)
>Have all manner of crazy tech and mutants
>Human offshoots are part of the galactic community (Inhumans, Eternals)
>Humans have played an absolutely key role in intergalactic affairs - Thanos is an Eternal, and so human-ish; Quasar, Nova Prime, half of Star-Lord, Drax, Moondragon, Mantis, Vulcan, Havok, Rachel and Jean Grey are all human, and all pretty much in/famous across the galaxy
>Humans have consistently stopped interdimensional and universe-ending threats, saving all of existence

You're full of shit, aliens.

>>78721902
>>78721859
so essentially she becomes Stark's secretary?

>>78722500
That doesn't explain the dialogue in this issue.

>>78722697
Yeah. From being her own boss, she devolved to eye-candy or whatever secretaries do in comics.

>>78722550
>but was it ever specified by editorial that she remembers?
No. Editorial refuses to acknowledge OMD in any way post-OMIT.

It is believed that the mysterious line that she whispers into Mephisto's ear during OMD is that she remembers. Allegedly early versions of the script had it in there (I remember seeing scans of page before it was released that confirmed this), but they pulled it at the last second and never revealed specifically what MJ said to Mephisto.

>I thought the company line was she tricked Mephisto into disrupting the timeline but erasing his involvement (like that made any sense) so she did'nt remember the deal either

Wat.

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So did this still happen?

>>78722646
MJ's pregnancy was erased too. Hell they recently put out a Clone Saga variant for Web Warriors and MJ didn't show any signs of pregnancy on the cover, that's how dismissive they are of that angle

On the one hand I like that Madame Masque is being used in something, but on the other hand this textbook Bendis claptrap.

>>78722033
decompression writing. When he's handling just one character it works, he can move the plot forward while also showing in detail the inner world of the character.
When you have multiple characters it just becomes an endless series of characters sittin down talking to each other.

>>78722542
Because Marvel is teflon and nobody wants to waste the effort.

>>78722746
How hard would it be to write a universe bible for this shit.

Not even every issue or every minor detail, but just have a big book with all the major events and important character interactions that writers can't contradict (unless it's an explicit retcon, like with Wanda/Pietro's shifting parentage).

There's the Marvel Wikia, just tighten it up a bit, and expand certain sections and you're already there. You don't even need editors enforcing continuity at that point, just make sure writers aren't dumb as fuck.

>>78722697
Pepper 2.0

>>78722755
>Steve Cap
>Logan Wolverine
>Spidey and MJ as a couple

Aw, don't make me nostalgic.

>>78722191
>Menace just forgotten.
dude, he's the main character in amazing spiderman

>>78722867
You mean Mr. Negative?

I haven't followed ASM recently, so I admit I could be wrong there, but a lot of the characters introduced during that time did prove surprisingly disposable.

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>>78722906
I'll never forget

>>78722835
>Spidey celebrating Christmas instead of Hanukkah

>>78722932

Still not jewish.

>>78722932
He may act like a jew, growing up surrounded by them and all, but he's no jew

>>78722930
God, the proportions. She must have a 4ft long torso.

>>78722867
no, I mean spider man

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>>78722989
More to love

>>78722191
They used Menace a lot. She was in the Axis Hobgoblin mini

Though I guess she's probably in limbo permanently now

>>78722835
Pete and MJ are still married in the dailes. Dumb but fun.

>>78721725
Iron in her blood is the best asspull i can cum up with

>>78721791
ughh, she is hideous

anyone dislikes new armor?

bleeding edge was his best pham

>>78722989
Kill yourself

>>78721603
Doom is Tony's archnemesis now

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>>78723259
You misspelled modular armor.

>>78723314
>muscles
Disgusting.

>>78723259
I like it much better then the movie traces we were getting from Greg Land before, but the split ninja toes have got to go.

>>78723327
You sir, are a swine

>>78723259
Extremis is still the best now and forever

>>78722755
Yes it did. So it makes zero sense why MJ and Tony shouldn't recognize one another.

>>78723314
youre both wrong Silver Centurion is the best you fucking plebs

>>78722774
>MJ's pregnancy was erased too.
Which really jacks up the timeline a bit. A pretty good chunk of the 90's was based around the pregnancy. It was a central plot point of the clone saga and all. Without the pregnancy, those stories make zero sense.

>Clone Saga variant for Web Warriors
What? Can you post the cover?

>>78722820
>Marvel Wikia
Have you actually read the stuff on there? There are plenty of errors and inconsistencies. Hell, the grammar is pretty shit on half the articles.

Cleaning that up would be a pretty big job.

>>78723259
I want Friday to take over the symbiote armor and become a real flesh and blood girl

>>78722867
You know that Menace was a chick, right?

>>78723630
>mfw wikis stopped work for me for some reason
are they all down or something?

like marvel.wikia, dc.wikia, starwars.wikia

all don't work and just load forever

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>>78723568

>>78723043
>They used Menace a lot.
"A lot" is a huge stretch. She shows up from time to time, is more accurate. She hasn't been a major character since Origin of the Species

>>78723314
Bleeding Edge > Modular Armor. This is a hard fact.

Anyone got a archive link to the previous storytime? Last issue I read was Madam Masque fighting Tony and him hooking up with the POO IN LOO where Thor pops in and he gets rid of him.

Or something like that.

>>78723278
No, please, I want Tony and Victor: Arrogant Bros to be a thing.

I like the concept of Doom being this gray-area anti-hero of sorts. He has too large of a fanbase, both among writers and readers, to ever really work as an out-and-out villain.

If Waid couldn't turn him into a complete monster - and he tried like Hell, pun intended - no one can, and going the other way makes sense.

>yfw Doom remembers Secret Wars and fucking up massively and is determined to be a better person in this new world
>a Superior Doctor Doom

>>78723760
She was in Goblin Nation and then that Axis mini

Compared to Screwball that's a lot

>>78723847
>viewcomic.com
>search: Iron Man

>>78723736
MJ looks really strange on that cover... but otherwise that's great. Oh Clone Saga nostalgia.

Is it bad that I actually kinda like the clone saga, despite all the horrible writing and trash heaped on it? I started reading comics right around when that started, so I've got a soft spot for it.

But even so, the cover isn't really actively not addressing the pregnancy or anything. Its just not calling attention to it. Which is pretty easy, considering MJ only ever -looked- pregnant in like 3 or 4 issues.

>>78721844
Ma nugga, sorry to bust ya bubble but you're the one who's autistic here.

>>78722275
considering how shes a supermodel, a public figure, and she was always in trouble around spidey's superheroes, its not that far fetched to see her having trouble trusting her with projects and money.

>>78723898
So, like I said, "she shows up from time to time".

She hasn't been a huge player in anything for ages.

>>78721902
Hey I know that art, that guy used to do porn.

>>78722137
Hey, if you are a super model who just opened her own club in a roaring success to have it all smashed to bits in a second, would you not be fucking pissed?
The more vapid you are, the more likely you take a stand. And hit people with it.

>>78722179
Bendis is out of his depth when it comes to writing magic.

>>78722137
None of which (save for hitting the demon chick, she's always been pretty capable of taking care of herself) are characteristics that MJ normally has, either.

>>78721603
pretty good.

>>78721697
This is really stupid.

I anything Slott was in the wrong for having her remember living in Avenger's tower, since the circumstances of which require her to remember her marriage to Peter, which makes absolutely no sense.

But who the fuck cares, Spider-Man is shit. Fuck off, Peterfags.

>>78721809
So Doom will be the next villain to turn good, and his crimes against humanity will be forgiven and he'll be an avenger.

>>78724666
You seem confused, anon. First you complain about this shit yourself. And then do a complete 180 and say your complaining doesn't matter and anyone who complains should fuck off.

...so doesn't that mean you should fuck off yourself?

>>78724684
What crimes against humanity? I saw on Reddit that based Doom was really a hero peaceful king loved by his people and never ever did anything wrong and the real villain was that useless useless wife abusing Reed Richards, it was upvoted and everything!

>>78721840
Those last two panels are garbage. Also, Strange looks kinda like Cumberbatch.

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>>78724837
>Strange looks kinda like Cumberbatch

Shhh, just let it happen, don't make it harder on yourself then it has to be, it'll be over soon.

>>78723965
I love the Saga too. It led to Mayday and MC2, I can't complain about that.

>>78724909
But I'm hyped for Cumberbatch's Strange, anon.

>>78724983
>I'm hyped for Cumberbatch's Strange
.....why?

>>78724983
Honestly, so am I, but that doesn't mean I like the idea of morphing comic Strange into Cumbersnitch like it happened to Stark and RDJ.

>>78725037
RDJ doesn't look like comics Iron Man though

>>78724944
>I love the Saga too.
Brother!

>It led to Mayday and MC2, I can't complain about that.
So long as Slott doesn't get his sausage fingers on her (I'll never forgive him for what he did to her during Spider-Verse), she's one of the best characters Marvel has ever published.

>>78725026
Benedict is a good actor, I'm worried about the director

Is he good? Haven't watched anything by him

>>78721849
this reminds me of usm mary jane...I guess she doesn't exist anymore huh.

I'm actually really enjoying this but Deadato? Hell naw

>>78725145
He's a second string horror director, he made two relatively generic exorcism movies and Sinister, which has some stuff going for it, it's hard to know what'll come out now that he's been given a real budget.

>>78725063
Ever since 2008, Tony has changed his facial hair to match the movie, ditched suits for a more casual looks and graphic t-shirts like the movie, has messier hair like the movie and sometimes even shows up with garish sunglasses like the movie. He's RDJ if RDJ wasn't a manlet.

>>78725145
>Benedict is a good actor
When he actually feels like acting. When he doesn't. He's just Khan. Which is pretty god damn awful.

He only took the role because he's a glory hound and knew it would instantly add to his fame. I doubt he gives a single shit about the actual character.

>>78725154
>this reminds me of usm mary jane
...how? She acted nothing like this at all.

>>78725293
Is there any actor in a cape movie who actually gives a shit about the character other than Nic Cage and (allegedly) Ryan Reynolds?

>>78725349
Karl Urban? Ed Norton?

>>78724004
Nope, still pretty far-fetched. She's never been "in trouble" because of Spider-Man before, nobody even knows she's conected to Spider-Man.
So just because some super-villain has a fight in a club she hapened to own doesn't mean her career is ruined.

>>78725399
Norton was a fan of the TV show, not the comic character. Is Urban big on Judge Dredd? Being ok with the helmet for the whole movie sure was cool, but I didn't know it was from explicit respect for the character.

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>>78725421
>She's never been "in trouble" because of Spider-Man before, nobody even knows she's conected to Spider-Man.

Where the fuck have you been? She's had to deal with Peter's rogues a whole slew of times. Hell, she took on the bigger, tougher, evil version of Peter. Pic related.

Go read some comics, kid.

>>78725497
I meant in her proffesional life

isn't the reason MJ left Nyc because the green goblin wrecked her club bc of spider connectioms?

>>78721611
>Every time a Super Hero shows up in my life
The way she phrases it implies more than one Super Hero has shown up in her life and it's a regular thing, a scycle of her life being ruined over and over by different heroes entering it.
Did I miss something? The only hero she's been involved in is Spider-Man, and I don't recall her "starting over" many times

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>>78725544
The hell? Of course modelling has nothing to do with super villains. But even then, you're wrong (pic related). Even still, she's dealt with this stuff a fuckload in her day-to-day life. This should be old news to her.

>>78721603

That's a great cover. Too bad Victor misplaced his outfit in this issue.

>>78725590
>The way she phrases it implies more than one Super Hero has shown up in her life

Well, to be fair, she's been around a lot of super heroes. She DID live in Avengers Tower for a while. And its not like Peter Parker is some super hero recluse. He's pretty well known in the cape community, many of which MJ has met.

>>78725455
Yeah, Urban is Dreddfag.

>>78721859
Are you telling me that in all these years Tony has never had anyone on his payroll whose job it was to manage his charity work or his brand?

>>78725728
He's broke, his PR department probably got axed.

>>78723259
I don't dislike it. I really like it actually. I look at it as an alternative take on the Bleeding Edge. I love Bleeding Edge concept, but I think this new one comes off as more pure tech based than the Bleeding Edge did which was more technorganic. That doesn't mean it wasn't god tier as a costume. I just think Iron Man should be pure tech more than anything else.

>>78725766
Somebody remind me why he's "broke" again?He sure doesn't look broke

>>78725786
We can't relate with super-rich guy! Now when Tony is face of Marvel, we have to relate with him. That's why previous relatable character, Spider-Man, is richer than God now.

First Bendis' Iron Man I read. I'm kinda impressed, but I didn't have high hopes anyways. It wasn't as bad as I feared (X-men) and it seems he actually gave the story some semi-sensible closure (in opposite to his Non-Avengers).

>>78724666
You can't move in with your friend unless you're married?

>>78725786
I'd like to think that it's because of all the horrible horseshit he pulled in Superior Iron Man and New Avengers, but apparently it's just because Parker Industries upstaged him.

>>78721603
Would Stark, or DOOM be better suited (no pun intended) for life in DC?

>>78725786
>He sure doesn't look broke
This. We're told he can't afford to bankroll the Avengers, but he looks as rich as ever with his armors, cars and whatnot.

>>78721706
>worst adversary
Doom must have a really low opinion of Stark.

>>78721697
just like my movies!
bravo marvel

>>78725728
Yeah, her name was Pepper Potts. Now Tony needs a newer, hotter redhead doing everything for him.

>>78722314
He sort of got the part where she'd clock a villain for fucking with her right. Normally she wouldn't stop swinging though.

>>78726003
Not really, Stark Industries would be outmatched by WayneTech and Doom would be just another despotic ruler alongside Black Adam and Queen Bee.

>>78722033
>Good
Nah. it's got the same problem alot of the recent flagship books since the "reboot" have. They would all be dozens of times better if they were using different characters because the personalities and interactions don't match the characters.

>>78726236
Stark's tech is decades ahead of Bruce's

>>78725599
But I'm fairly sure that's marvel adventures anon

Not disputing you, just saying that this MJ hasn't dealt with that situation

>>78726393
Not if Tony went to the DCU it isn't. They wouldn't have Batman's company being lesser then any other hero.

>>78725099
DeFalco hinted that was'nt the actual Mayday, but whatever, we're stuck with that one now, and Costa's not done too bad a job with her so far

>>78726438
She's been attacked on-stage by a swarm of Nazi bees. This shit is nothing new to her.

>>78726438
Its not, its from the Spider-Man and Power Pack crossover. And its hardly the first time something like this has happened. See: >>78726543

>>78725546
Nope, MJ vowed to stay in NYC at the end of Superior, but Bendis trolled Slott by having her club wrecked a second time and prompted her to leave NYC.

>>78726490
>DeFalco hinted that was'nt the actual Mayday
I know, and godbless 'em for it. DeFalco knows whats up.

Either way, its pretty much confirmed to be that Mayday in the Secret Wars: Spider-Island backup story. Which DeFalco spent the entire duration fixing all of Slott's bullshit.

>>78725786
He's not. At all. He's just less rich than Peter Parker right now. So, in comics, apparently that equates to "broke".

>>78726617
I don't think so, there's a few more clues in that story to indicate otherwise (she knows Darkdevil is her cousin)

>>78724743
Decompressing isn't the same as complaining, dummy. I stated my opinion then exonerated its overall meaninglessness because it is. Like a secular man uses Bible scriptures, I know enough about Spider-Man comics to know they're shit.

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>>78727129
Its like MJ is reacting to how poor Bendis' writing is.

>>78723630

It does give a quantity over quality vibe.

Of course, most wikis with such a fuck hueg scope do, with few exceptions.

>>78726071
>just like my movies!
In what way?

>>78724747
Well sounds like Reddit was right for once.

>>78727691
ironman 3
he does something like that vs killiam

invincible ironman is fucking awesome. I cant even fathom the amount of shit it's getting on /co/

Its just like the movie, which got good reviews, and its one of the highest selling comics in the world right now and for good reason

>b-but its not MUH IRONMAN!
lol fuck off. Nobody cared or knew who he was before the movie. Consider actually having fun once in your life, thats what the run is, fun. Since when is NOT MUH a valid criticism? They're basically taking the IM name and making it something better, there's nothing wrong with that.

Its basically the exact same for mary jane. Reinventing a C-list character into a badass renegade which is also selling well and everyone is enjoying it aside from you /co/ntrarians. Why is that exactly?

>>78727852
I know this is pasta, but does anyone have the drop from #1 to #2 ?

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>>78721840
Based fuckin Bendis, laughed my ass off!

>>78727900
It's a big drop.

>>78727911
xd

>>78727911
reminds me of a post on facebook after the doctor strange photos were posted
some one said "we are one step closer to this happening" and there was the picture of awesome facial hair bros

cant help but imagen how devastaded /co/ will get if that ever happens

>>78722033
>I wonder why he can't bring THIS kind of A-game to his team books
Because he's very bad at having different voices for characters. On a solo, you can't tell this because he has, like, 3 personalities he uses, which is enough to fill out a main cast for a solo, but once you try that shit in a team book, half the characters end up with the same voice.

I like reading a book about Spider-man going on adventures. I don't like a book about 7 Spider-mans going on adventures.

>>78727920
For you

>>78721626
acknowledging it doesn't make it better

>>78727980
Probably not devastated, at this point we're to cynical to be devastated.
Just pissed. And also a little smug, because we fucking told you about normies etc.

>>78727852
>I was only nine years old
>I loved Bendis so much, I owned all his comics and merchandise
>I pray to Bendis every night, thanking him for the dialogue I have been given
>"Bendis is love", I say, "Bendis is life"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to Bendis
>I respond "I'm a faggot?"
>He says "Yes, you're a faggot"
>I say "But I'm not gay"
>He says "I meant faggot as a generic insult, not to call you gay"
>I repond "It's still pretty homophobic"
>He punches me and sends me to my room
>I am crying now, because I wasn't finished talking
>I go into my bed and it is very cold
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I keep feeling a warmth moving towards me for 5 panels
>I feel something touch me
>2 page spread
>It's Bendis
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "Wanna read my latest comic?"
>"Your latest comic?"
>"Yes"
>"You came to my room to show me your latest comic?"
>"Why else would I come?"
>"I thought you were gonna have your way with me"
>"You're 9 years old, anyone who could possibly think that would be twisted freak"
>"A twisted freak?"
>"Yes"
>"Can I just read the comic?"
>"Go ahead"
>He grabs me with his chubby nerd hands and puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I open the comic for Bendis
>He wasted several pages on characters eating and doing nothing
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Bendis
>I can feel my brain tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Bendis
>He laughs a mighty laugh as he ignores established continuity
>My dad walks in
>Bendis looks him deep in the eyes and says, "It's all over now"
>"Who the fuck are you? I'm calling the cops!"
>"You were suposed to say "It's over now?""
>"Fuck you, what are you doing with my son?"
>"You're no fun"
>Bendis punches the wall and leaves to write about his waifu some more
Bendis is love, Bendis is life

>>78721642
He's a writer?

>>78729039
Wait, he's he?

>>78721840
It's just me or doc Strange really became younger after SW?

>>78729065
He? A writer?

>>78729190
Yep, he looks younger. He's not wise elder, now he's Tony's facial bro! xD
Jesus almighty.
>>78729225
Writers can be "he"?

>>78721976
They're trying to make him like how he'll be in the movies.

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>>78728782
>mfw new pasta
thanks anon, with this one i now have 9 bendis pastas

>>78721859
Isn't this Pepper's job? Where is she?

Why did Marvel ruin everything?

>>78729649
Old pasta, anon. Dunno how you missed it.
>>78729654
>Isn't this Pepper's job? Where is she?
She has her own hi-tech firm.

>>78729654
>Why did Bendis ruin everything?
FTFY

>>78729699
It's less than a month old and hasn't been spammed as much

>>78729699
i doesnt get reposted in every thread like the other ones

>>78729649
Do you have a paste bin or something with all the pastas and the usual bendis pics?

>>78729930
you don't?

>>78729930
here you go
http://pastebin.com/ujmzW91t

no, i dont have all the bendis pics

>>78721930

Dude it's a comic book about super heroes. Anyone who takes it this seriously needs to bugger off.

It's not supposed to make sense, it was a man in a magic metal suit, and his mystical nonsense buddies fighting a demonic ally possessed she bitch (and you didn't even have to pay to read it online)

It' is stupid because its supposed to be stupid

>>78721902
I'll approve of this whole Tony/MJ thing if it leads to Peter beating the ever-loving shit out of Tony.

>>78730164
>Dude it's a comic book about super heroes.
Not the same anon, but this is a gigantic cop out. Even in super hero stories, it has to follow some kind of internal logic.

>>78730023
Thanks senpai, have a Bendis.

Really annoyed me how MJ and Tony are acting like strangers

>>78722474
Bendis knows that Tony and MJ lived together in Avengers Tower. He just doesn't *care*.

>>78721697
This is just like the fucking Hood.
This is so retarded.

>>78721626
From Supreme Ruler Of the Multiverse to job in the firsts pages. Bendis beign a hack sometimes is a good thing.

>>78721791
>So the Iron Man armor is now a spandex bodysuit?

>>78721688
Didn't she live in Avengers Tower for a while while literally under Bendis's pen? Stark's forgetful but he isn't a dick. Or did OMD erase that? I thought it just undid her marriage to Peter but they still kept dating for a long period

>>78721725
Intrauterine device IUD

>>78721849
Bendis is writing MJ like Jessica in Alias.

>>78721725
She's a coal burner

>>78729654
>Isn't this Pepper's job? Where is she?

Tony gave her his new company that he had set up after Siege to run.

>>78731710
Damaged and unable to feel regular fuck?

>>78721849
>Not wanting to be Iron Man

Come on, MJ

>>78721902
YOU JUST KNOW

>>78731792
Yeah, she even used his armor once with Aunt May. She loved it.

>>78731648
If she remembered that she would probably remember Stark spying on her changing with hidden cameras everywhere.

>>78722257
The confusing thing about OMD is that everyone except for Peter and MJ (and Kaine) forgot about Peter Parker's identity even though that should create huge holes in people's memory.
How many events has Norman Osborn forgotten about? Or the Jackal? Or Eddie Brock? Or the Symbiote? Them knowing Peter's identity was vital for their motivations and plots, what do they think hapened?
The only person who noticed something was up was the Human Torch, because he thought it was weird that he didn't know, and he saw a statue of Peter unmasked (but decayed) in another dimension where the spell had no effect.

>>78731710
What do you mean?

>>78727852
>MJ
>C-lister

She was a big deal for years prior to 2008, was a big deal over the summer and is still Peter's wife in the dailes and treated like an A-plus component who can stand up to the likes of the Sub-Mariner.

>>78726723
And Crimson Curse was alive randomly. Deflaco weeded out everyone who did and did not read the MC2 comics basically, with those that read it knowing that this wasn't Mayday and others accepting the status quo

>>78727911
It's sad he has to post on his own page to compliment his work

>>78732528
Is that post which Bendis sent to himself?

>>78732637
A post? That he wrote himself?
More than likely it is

>>78725599
>MJ Venom
As if the symbiote's parker-boner wasn't strong enough already
Can you imagine MJ Venom seeing Pete in trouble? I'd pity whoever was on the receiving end of that protective instinct

>>78732744
There was one time he did send praise to himself on tumblr and people figured him out.

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>>78732528
>>78732637
>>78732744
>>78732908
That tumblr account didn't exist btw.

>>78733153
Ah, I was wrong about topic. Thanks, anon.

>>78721611
So her teeth are clearly normal here. Is she still more in control than the demon then, because her giant ass fangs should have been notable before then.

>>78721840
It's funny because I know it pisses everybody off

>>78721902

THIS GIRL!

>>78729654
Pepper hates Tony now, thank Superior.

>>78722454
>Congratulations, Bendis. You just un-wrote your own fucking Avengers stories.

He did that all the time in the Ultimate universe. Look up Daredevil 's interactions with Peter early on vs after DDs' death in Ultimatium where Pete said he had no idea who he was.

>>78735334
Superior was amazing though to be fair. But nobody is addressing his shitty behavior and how he suddenly isn't. That should be something someone brings up in here sometime, but Bendis doesn't read anyone else's stories.

Also, when did he get reverted? Wasn't he still Superior at the start of Secret Wars? So I guess that the universe's annihilation fixed everything.

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>>78721970
>plausible
>not retarded
>bendis

>>78735334
She does know that Tony was brainwashed, right?
It's clear the rest of the superhero community has forgiven him, even Steve

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>>78721840
Honestly, it's not nearly as bad since I already saw this beforehand in another thread, buts still awful.

>>78721654
What type of engineer would not have a manual system...oh wait, Bendis is writing this shit.

>>78721603
Did Bendis just use Victor to hype his shit or is this going to be good in some point?

>>78737188
who knows
maybe they are actually making doom good and forcing that gary sue or regent like the big bad

>>78721840
How old are these men? I can see Kamala wiggling her arms at Reed and going "Cool stretchy bendy pals!" And Reed high fiving her and saying it back to humor her and because she's adorable but Tony and Strange are grown men in their 30's (or 40's) for Strange so this is just cringey.

>>78737499
early 40s and late 50s?

but for some reason after SW they look and act like mid 20s early 30s

maybe it was soft rebooted and now they are younger

>>78722257
What's funny is that Bendis defended MJ being in his comic because she and Tony were friends and he knew her because she lived in Avengers tower meaning he can't keep track of his shit anymore.

I guess you can excuse Tony not knowing her from his mindwipe in Fraction's run, but MJ should know it.

>>78722279
Gingers are all the dame to Tony.

>>78722383
Especially Tony, he's very different from how Bendis used to write him.

>>78721688
>>78721697
these cluttered 3mb spreads are an eyesore

>>78722335
>>78721840
Does the fact that he's echoing something Stark said earlier make it better or worse given how dumb it sounds?

>>78725497
It's true! Kaine can never be hardcore.

Since when was Doctor Doom an expy for John Constantine?

>>78722454
>, logically, NA v1 never happened. By extension, neither could NA v2 and A v4 (I think).
So the only times Spidey being on an Avengers team actually meaning something never happened?

>>78723259

That's a funny way to say Extremis

>>78726030
he was so filthy rich that losing 99% of his fortune still left him wealthier than nearly all of America's population.
He got bumped down from 'the 1%' to the 1.5%

>>78726236
Waynetech isn't even the biggest company in DC. It's ranked around 10th

>>78726003
Batman would never put up with Tony's shit. We would of just gotten Civil War all over again with Bats instead of Cap.

>>78726393
>>78738287
The rankings are stupid anyway. They always show industries as equal in the comics like LExcorp and Waynetech have mostly been shwn at equal footings when they meet.

>>78731841
>>78731648
Wiped in OMD/BND

God what a piece of shit book. I how how inept Bendis writes Iron man. It's not like he's never had to deal with magic before and yet here he's getting his ass kicked so easily it's hillarious

bump so more people can read this master piece

>>78731847
Jackal and Osbourne know something fucking weird is going on with their memory. Jackal for instance finds it a bit weird that he has spider-man's DNA but can't recall where he got it from.

>>78738997
They explicitly told you in written print form that nothing other than the marriage got changed as far as continuity goes before the month was over, if not the final page of OMD. Also read the fucking thread to see the examples showing her living there wasn't wiped.

Invincible Iron Man 005 (2016) (digital) (Oroboros-DCP)
http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/MfxsfSEK/file.html

>>78737846
Worse. You're attempting to summon a 30 panel copy/paste job just from talking about that page.

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>>78746126
30 would have been too much.

>>78746306
I've seen bigger.

>>78724684
To be fair I'm sure SAVING REALITY
counterbalances all the times he tried taking over the world nicely.

Also keep in mind Latveria is a 1st world nation all thanks to him.