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Does anyone have the full comic on hand?
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I just have the short version. I've never seen the long version.
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>>78697729
Most notorious serial killer in history my ass.
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>>78697789
Well he's up there but of course that honor goes to Jack the Ripper.
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>>78697789
Other than John Wayne Gacy and Son of Sam, I dunno who else could make the cut.
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>>78697876
Forgot about him. And Zodiac killer. There are plenty of choices, but Dhamer isn't that neglectable.
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>>78697876
Ted Bundy, too.
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>>78697876
Really depends on how you want to judge these things. I'd personally rate H.H. Holmes and Andrei Chikatilo at the top, well above any of the commonly known famous killers.
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>>78697916
This was meant as a reply to this >>78697865.
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>>78697876
Pedrinho Matador.
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>>78697934
Them being commonly known this exactly what makes them notorious. Read the dictionary some time, anon.
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My internet is too shitty to upload this but what you're looking for is:
My Friend Dahmer (2012) (Digital GN) (Emachine-Empire)
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This shit hits way too close to home.
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>>78697876
Albert Fish, honestly I think H.H Holmes is ranked much higher. But a lot of the serial killers from other countries get away with far worse.
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>>78697999
Well, again, it's how you want to judge it. It's a quirk of history and geography that causes certain killers to become known in the popular culture. If you look at them in the realm of serials killers and not pop culture, things change quite a bit.
H. H. Holmes was a far bigger story internationally than even Jack the Ripper, a contemporary. Especially considering he had several Europeans among his victims due to his use of the Chicago's World Fair. For some reason, though, he just never caught the imagination the same way Jack did. Which is weird, considering the absolutely insane shit he did and how he did it.
As for Andrei, the Rostov Ripper, the Soviets liked to try and keep that stuff quiet. A major reason why he managed to kill for almost two decades is because the Soviet police refused to believe that a serial killer could even exist in Russia, preferring to believe it a Western phenomenon.
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>>78698188
>H. H. Holmes
I still can't comprehend building a death mansion. I heard when he got caught, he came off as an incompetent retard as he attempted to cover his ass with a nonsensical story.
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>>78698188
Okay, I see.
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>>78698292
That was always a weird part of his story. Considering he built his hotel through grift and swindle, it's hard to imagine that he was actually incompetent at weaving lies. I've read theories that said he was just stalling for time, hoping to get the insurance payoff for murdering his friend so he could try and leverage that against some guards to escape. Who knows? If the Pinkertons hadn't tracked down the bodies of that friend and his children that he'd scattered across the country, he might have managed to escape somehow.
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so everybody was just an asshole
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>>78698523
Just like real-life.
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>>78698523
What would you do differently.
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>>78698188
>A major reason why he managed to kill for almost two decades is because the Soviet police refused to believe that a serial killer could even exist in Russia, preferring to believe it a Western phenomenon.
Not quite true. His murders were kept out of the media in order to not cause a panic. Chikatilo killed sporadically for the first 3-4 years he was active. It was only in 1983, five years after he first started killing, that the police discovered a connection between his victims and realized there was a serial murderer on the loose.
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>>78698294
Is that the ending?
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>>78697876
Harold Shipman.
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>>78698882
Yeah, the full GN is ~190 pages and comes with a lot of backmatter, but it's basically the same story just a little more expanded.
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>>78698292
I heard a theory that H.H. Holmes and Jack the Ripper were the same person since Holmes was known to be in London around the time of Jack the Ripper's murders. Sounds legit.
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>>78698294
Alright, heres the complete comic
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This is a fantastic comic, read it before, thanks for sharing it with /co/
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>>78700870
you're welcome
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>>78697934
Did Dahmer himself tell the bit about the jogger to investigators?
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>>78700987
Yeah he must have. I think most of the stuff in the comic is pretty accurate.
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>>78701391
I never had any close friendships. ;_; Even a serial killer had friends at some point.
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>>78701571
you have us /co/mrades
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I always wondered how are we supposed to hate guys like Dahmer. I mean, I killed animals before, when people asked why I also could only say "I just wanted to see what would happen."
I tried dissolving animals, but I never had acid, I used to put them in ant hills or boil the meat, it wasn't effective at all.
I never imitated a person with mental palsy but I was a loner too, with time I drifted away from all my friends, it's been like 10 years since I had any human interaction.
Why would you hate someone that follows their nature? They were born like that, they never had any choice.
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>>78701906
*tips fedora*
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>>78701972
You're pretty bad at using memes.
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>>78701972
My post was edgy shit. You're looking for edgelord maymay, not fedora maymay, newmember.
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That photo's actually pretty unsettling.
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>>78697729
>"I'm a story teller. It's what I do."
Christ dont bust your wrist jacking yourself off dude.
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The DC trip was a pretty great moment in the book
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>>78702826
Derf is super pretentious like that. His one book, Punk Rock and Trailer Parks to me is the worst, most mastubatory comic I have ever read.
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>I bet I can roll a joint faster than you!
BASED
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>>78703109
I bet he just loves the fact he knew Dahmer.
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>>78702068
>4chan takes interest in Chris-Chan
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>>78701906
Of course you have a choice. Even sociopaths can learn the rules and many do. They follow the law because they don't want to go to jail but not because of reason or empathy.
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I know this is dumb and gay, but I've always sort of toyed with the idea that serial killers are somehow doing work that is greater or perhaps on a higher level that we would be able to understand.
Like the author keeps saying that no one intervened.
So in my min I sort of play with the fact that the people the eventually did die at the hands of people like Dahmer sort of had to be killed off for the greater good of humanity, through some form of intervention. Because if they had lived they would've led to consequences that would've destroyed earth.
I often imagine a series sort of like 12 monkeys, where time travelers have to travel to the childhoods of people like Dahmer and influence them like spirits (the time traveled can't be seen) so that they commit the acts later in life.
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>>78701906
Stop trying to be edgy, we're reading here.
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>>78702618
Is page 68/69 missing?
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>>78703427
I mean, just look at this book. How much of it is just conjecture? Most of this is stuff he wasn't even around for.
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>>78703881
You are not much a fan of history, are you?
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>>78703791
no, this is 69 >>78702618 and 68 is a blank page
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>>78702340
maybe it was different in the 70s but wouldn't his shtick get old after a while?
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>>78704142
There was no internet or video games back then. There was fuck all else to do.
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>>78704142
When you're a teenager in a hick town before the internet existed you take what you can get.
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>>78704142
I think it kind of did, but from the way it's portrayed, the Dahmer fan club wasn't all that popular themselves. They kind of latched on to this weirdo to make themselves feel better about being normal.
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>>78704233
I can see that I did the same thing in middle school
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>>78703688
Fighting pathological compulsion is a losing battle.
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>>78704281
Someone made a joke about 4chan and Chris-chan earlier in the thread, but really, that's kind of what the deal was with this group.
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>>78704489
I don't get it. >>78704225
What is so scary about seeing someone chug a six-pack?
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>>78703787
Are you implying I'd make TWO edgy posts?
Fuck off, you deranged maniac.
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>>78704568
Their doing it with dead eyes and no emotion whatsoever with the systematic nature of a robot.
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>>78704568
I suppose it's because he knew that Dahmer was drinking compulsively, this is just the first time he'd seen it in action. Generally speaking most people aren't going to slam a six-pack unless it's a party and someone bet them they couldn't, and generally speaking there would be something of a big too do. Seeing a guy do it without reaction would be fucking weird.
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>>78704568
Don't know how often you go drinking, but people's intentions come out in what and how they drink.
Some folks cry into their beer, others get the sweetest drinks to hide the alcohol.
Dahmer was not drinking to enjoy himself, the author says it was clear that he was aiming to numb himself.
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Here's the full Dahmer trial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnuSl8PNYqc
He liked watching the exorcist 3 and some scenes from Return of the Jedi, that is the scenes with Sheev Palpatine.
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>>78704233
I hung around with what were considered 'outcasts'.
Was a rough time at home during my high school years, so maybe I just didn't want to fit in with the popular kids.
I didn't have the urge to murder people though.
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>>78698177
>Albert Fish
Thanks for reminding me, now I've got the image of his X-ray where the pelvis is filled with needles stuck in my mind again. Out of all the serial killer stuff, that's what gets me.
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>>78705188
This.
I'm a loner who was weird as shit in school.
I set fires.
Wet the bed til I was 12.
I play violent video games and listen to disturbing music.
My parents had a messy divorce, and my older brother used to beat the shit out of me.I've even jacked it to guro a few times.
But I have no urge to kill anything. I don;t even like to kill bugs. I'll put a spider or a wasp in a glass and take it outside.
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>>78703274
I remember reading a study once that determined the minds of psychopaths and politicians are far closer to each other than either group is to the mind of the average person.
Kind of begs the question of whether there's really any difference.
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>>78705362
Both require you to be glib, unflappable, decisive, committed, detached and willing to lie compulsively.
I believe it.
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>>78705464
I can't believe the police didn't inspect the bags.
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>>78705301
We're all weird.
The difference for Jeff was that he didn't have anyone to help him through those times where he was having confusing feelings.
The author of this comic makes it clear that while he wasn't a major cause of Jeff's descent into darkness, he regrets not trying to make a difference.
This is a fun thread.
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>>78705506
>police
>incompetent and unmotivated
>especially in small towns
I can buy it.
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>>78705579
I've never been open and frank with my wierd thoughts and feelings. But I suppose having the option, which I did, made my situation better.
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I don't know... I think I like the shorter version better.
When someone is writing about a real person and real life events but he wasn't there I feel it's just unfair to make any deductions.
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>>78705362
Yeah, I believe I may have read the same study and it postulated that psychopaths tend to get into politics, law enforcement, and even become surgeons because it gives them unquestioned power over others and in the case of police and doctors, power over life and death.
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>>78705623
I agree with you. How would Derf accurately report about Dahmer's life without being there. Still I find it more real than a documentry about Dahmer and his crimes on TV.
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>>78698523
It's Ultimate Marvel all over again.
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>>78705873
kek
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>>78705908
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My family is strangely involved with serial killers and criminals.
John Wayne Gacy. My dad lived near his house as a boy and had been to a few of the holiday parties that he had, before moving to Morton Grove IL.
Bizarrely we only found out that later that he was anonymously buried in the cemetery that my Dad's dad had designed, and where my Dad's family is all buried. It's strange because it's quite a distance from Gacy's original home in Norwood Park.
My Great Grandfather was an investigator for the H H Holmes murders of the World Columbian Exposition in Chicago, my Great Grandmother lived next to Al Capone when she was in her 20's in Chicago, and my Uncle lived in the apartment of Jeffery Dahmer.
Chicago and the Upper midwest is a bit fucked
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>>78703726
That's precisely the kind of logic that deranged killers used to excuse their actions to themselves.
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Gonna be compltely honest, never heard of the guy, mainly because Im too young but before I read this is there any good documentaries/books on what happened or should I just surf the wikipedia article?
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>>78706300
How fucking young are you to have never heard of Dahmer? I'm 20 and I'm still familiar with him.
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>>78706300
I'd say My Friend Dahmer is the best. After watching a few documentaries on YouTube they come across as "Dahmer was an average Joe from an all-American family, who somehow became a serial killer."
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Image limit reached, I'll finish the rest in another thread.
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>>78706377
20 as well, I may have heard of him in passing but thats all. Ive heard about Gacy just never Dahmer
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>>78706131
I know, and that's what I think is interesting, what if they actually are right.
There was a british serial killer, same type as Dahmer, can't remember his name right now. One of his victims survived, and later turned out to also kill someone and is now in jail.
When I say a larger picture of it, I mean like generations later. Like, one of Dahmers victims would eventually be the grandfather of a new dictator that unleashes a biological weapon sort of thing.
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>>78704233
I was slightly silly weirdo in high-school. The kinda that didn't understand other people, and who barely made an attempt to fit in. I was passive aggressive and preferred books to people.
Then again, I was terrified all the time of trying to fit in. I always got the feeling I wasn't supposed to fit in. Then I went to college and now I fit in whenever I talk, or even try to keep a connection.
Silence, or the absence of any positive interaction with other persons, can be a lot more pivotal in making someone hurt than the actual pain they experience. Cause everyone gets pain, but if you get absolutely no help like Dahmer, you get messed up by yourself and your own thoughts.
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>>78706660
It sounds like bullshit, but it might make an interesting premise for a fictional story.
>The League of Extraordinary Serial Killers
You'd get some great publicity too through the controversy of depicting these guys as heroes.
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>>78705506
Believe it, it happened, there is even a report they filed out that night, the stupid bastards.
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I think serial killers are merely the predatory response to human domination. The more we assert ourselves at the top of the food chain, the more serial killers there'll be, cause everyone is prey there needs to be a predator, it's natural course.
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>>78701724
It's funny to read this as I live a few minutes from Bath Township and actually pass through it weekly on regular errands.
The town is gorgeous and very high-end with a bunch of excellent restaurants and retailers there. LeBron James' house is there (which, oddly enough, is right off a normal street) and I've bumped into Shaq while at the mall in Fairlawn next door.
Wild to see it portrayed this way knowing what it has become.
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>>78703726
Me too, what if the guys who killed Lincoln, Kennedy and John Lennon were all time travellers trying to prevent some horrible dystopic future, what if future hitlers are being killed everyday by time travellers, we would never know.
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I have this book on my shelf right now. The Derf Backderf one.
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>>78705932
Kinda spooky.
A friend of my father's once attended at Robert Pickton's farm, if anybody's familiar with Canadian serial killers. Woke up with a headache and no wallet.
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>>78705932
Weird stuff, but a few fun facts to throw out at parties.
In a bit of the same boat myself.
My grandpa was drinking buddies with Lee Harvey Oswald and was investigated by the FBI for Kennedy's assassination due to his... well, marine sharpshooter background and history of ~maybe~ killing people during barroom brawls.
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>>78703153
>Browns
lol
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>>78706660
>There was a british serial killer, same type as Dahmer, can't remember his name right now.
Dennis Nilsen.
>>78706785
>The League of Extraordinary Serial Killers
I watched a largely shitty slasher flick with a premise vaguely similar to that; black magic brings a bunch of RL serial killers back to life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butchers_(2014_film)
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A serial killer probably shitposts on 4chan.
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>>78709863
It has happened before, on /b/
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>>78697784
>that last panel
Already worth it.
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>>78697892
I guess every piss Dahmer took could be considered a WICKED piss.
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>>78702158
>/fit/
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>>78702158
>Dahmer was a BIG GUY
F-f-f-f-f-f-for you
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>>78705671
He WAS there. A lot of it is conjecture, but it's conjecture based on things Dahmer, his family, and criminal investigators said. Sure there's a speculative component to it, but the guy really did go to school with Dahmer and knew what sort of guy he was. That's why it stops shortly after high school, he can't speak to what the guy was like after he moved out of state and became a full fledged serial killer.
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>>78697876
Zodiac, Night Stalker, Jack the Ripper, Ted Bundy
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>>78698225
Oh fuck me that photo's got me spooked
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>>78706300
You seriously don't know about Dahmer? How the fuck do you not know about Jeffrey Dahmer?
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>>78702701
>She was cute. Nice bod.
They cut out "What a waste of nice tits!"?! Come on, I loved that one
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>>78705579
Serial killers are bizarre things, different even from those criminals that meet the criteria for psychopathy. While there may be hundreds or even thousands of psychopaths galavanting around the US at any given time, criminal or not, the Justic department estimates there being only 30-50 serial killers active at once. That's including the ones who get caught and imprisoned almost immediately they start doing their grisly thing.
I seriously doubt any of you edgelords in this thread were at risk of becoming serial killers. It's like a fuckton of things have to come together in just the right way to make one, or that there's something completely independent from the usual "bad boy" recipe (broken home, childhood abuse or neglect, personality issues, sexual deviancy, etc).
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>>78704325
6 x 12 != 128. Derf can't into math
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>>78712513
>only 30-50 serial killers active at once
>only
Jesus Christ America. Though I guess it is a big place with a lot of undeveloped wilderness. People can probably hide bodies easier than they can in Europe.
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>>78709863
Some fucker on /b/ posted a time-stamped photo of a corpse in his freezer. It's not a matter of "probably", so much as a question of "How many more?"
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>>78713461
Keep in mind that the definition is just "Someone who has killed three or more people with periods of months or years between them." Those prolific killers that murder dozens or more are an exceptional rarity. Three deaths for each only totals to 90-150, which isn't that much out of a population of hundreds of millions. Also, aside from a relatively brief period of time, serial killings aren't widely publicized.
I'd imagine there'd be a similar number in any region of similar population, given similarities in things like policy or economy.
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>>78713461
That's why I'll never visit Canada.
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>>78697876
No one beats Carl Panzram.
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>>78713461
You also have to remember that that figure is from Law Enforcement, and US Law Enforcement classifies anyone who has killed twice, at two separate times, as serial killers.
The figure of people who operate in a way that is even remotely comparable to Dahmer is much, much smaller. Possibly as small as a half-dozen.
Canada is actually a little spookier. The killers up there all seem to get away with that shit for a long, long time before the Canuck cops even bother investigating.
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>>78703726
Seen my share of messed up fucks, they're just messed up fucks anon. Don't overthink them.
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>>78703881
i think its his personal experiences cobbled together with others experiences as well as interviews and thing after Dahmer was caught
it honestly makes the book more engaging and interesting, not that it wasn't before
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>>78702520
Holy crap. I read somewhere his mother was taking medication while Jeff was in her stomach but I had no idea she took THAT MANY prescription drugs.
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This is kind of preachy but still interesting. I'd probably be more interested in it from a detached point of view, but I guess it's the author's personal recollection. I think he's a little ignorant of how Dahmer may have been manipulating/what Dahmer may have been getting out of their interactions, too.
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This is fascinating. We sometimes forget people are still human and took part in normal life after they've done terrible things. I can't bring myself to hate people like Dahmer and Ed Gein, people who didn't commit their crimes out of malice but were clearly just seriously fucked in head and felt compelled to do what they did.
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>>78702915
>it was unsharable
Too bad he had no internet
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>>78698225
>start of comic says names and faces were changed
>posts class photo anyway
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>>78703726
You are correct, that is dumb and gay!
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>>78709863
There was another thread just last year, apparently from a female who claimed to eat parts of her victims as a sort of "cultural
tradition" Easily could have been just an elaborate troll, but who really knows.
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>>78697876
what about pedro lopez (monster of the andes)?
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>>78714604
Not enough serial killers there for you?
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>>78703726
That's kinda the idea behind White Wolf's Hunter table top rpg. You suddenly get an urge to kill specific people and cool magic powers to help you do it. Those people turn out to be vampires, werewolves and other scary creatures masquerading as humans. To the rest of the world you are just a serial killer.
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>>78714782
Man, have you read that diary he wrote while he was on death row, explaining his life and motivations? That is chilling.
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>>78720851
No, the supernatural creatures are distinct. And hunters are human beings who hunt down supernatural creatures. You're thinking of the Slashers source book. That's specifically about serial killers. You start as a regular killer. Become good enough at it, and you end up gaining slasher movie powers.
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