Does anyone have the full comic on hand?
I just have the short version. I've never seen the long version.
Really depends on how you want to judge these things. I'd personally rate H.H. Holmes and Andrei Chikatilo at the top, well above any of the commonly known famous killers.
Well, again, it's how you want to judge it. It's a quirk of history and geography that causes certain killers to become known in the popular culture. If you look at them in the realm of serials killers and not pop culture, things change quite a bit.
H. H. Holmes was a far bigger story internationally than even Jack the Ripper, a contemporary. Especially considering he had several Europeans among his victims due to his use of the Chicago's World Fair. For some reason, though, he just never caught the imagination the same way Jack did. Which is weird, considering the absolutely insane shit he did and how he did it.
As for Andrei, the Rostov Ripper, the Soviets liked to try and keep that stuff quiet. A major reason why he managed to kill for almost two decades is because the Soviet police refused to believe that a serial killer could even exist in Russia, preferring to believe it a Western phenomenon.
>H. H. Holmes
I still can't comprehend building a death mansion. I heard when he got caught, he came off as an incompetent retard as he attempted to cover his ass with a nonsensical story.
That was always a weird part of his story. Considering he built his hotel through grift and swindle, it's hard to imagine that he was actually incompetent at weaving lies. I've read theories that said he was just stalling for time, hoping to get the insurance payoff for murdering his friend so he could try and leverage that against some guards to escape. Who knows? If the Pinkertons hadn't tracked down the bodies of that friend and his children that he'd scattered across the country, he might have managed to escape somehow.
>A major reason why he managed to kill for almost two decades is because the Soviet police refused to believe that a serial killer could even exist in Russia, preferring to believe it a Western phenomenon.
Not quite true. His murders were kept out of the media in order to not cause a panic. Chikatilo killed sporadically for the first 3-4 years he was active. It was only in 1983, five years after he first started killing, that the police discovered a connection between his victims and realized there was a serial murderer on the loose.
Alright, heres the complete comic
you have us /co/mrades
I always wondered how are we supposed to hate guys like Dahmer. I mean, I killed animals before, when people asked why I also could only say "I just wanted to see what would happen."
I tried dissolving animals, but I never had acid, I used to put them in ant hills or boil the meat, it wasn't effective at all.
I never imitated a person with mental palsy but I was a loner too, with time I drifted away from all my friends, it's been like 10 years since I had any human interaction.
Why would you hate someone that follows their nature? They were born like that, they never had any choice.
I know this is dumb and gay, but I've always sort of toyed with the idea that serial killers are somehow doing work that is greater or perhaps on a higher level that we would be able to understand.
Like the author keeps saying that no one intervened.
So in my min I sort of play with the fact that the people the eventually did die at the hands of people like Dahmer sort of had to be killed off for the greater good of humanity, through some form of intervention. Because if they had lived they would've led to consequences that would've destroyed earth.
I often imagine a series sort of like 12 monkeys, where time travelers have to travel to the childhoods of people like Dahmer and influence them like spirits (the time traveled can't be seen) so that they commit the acts later in life.
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I think it kind of did, but from the way it's portrayed, the Dahmer fan club wasn't all that popular themselves. They kind of latched on to this weirdo to make themselves feel better about being normal.
I suppose it's because he knew that Dahmer was drinking compulsively, this is just the first time he'd seen it in action. Generally speaking most people aren't going to slam a six-pack unless it's a party and someone bet them they couldn't, and generally speaking there would be something of a big too do. Seeing a guy do it without reaction would be fucking weird.
Don't know how often you go drinking, but people's intentions come out in what and how they drink.
Some folks cry into their beer, others get the sweetest drinks to hide the alcohol.
Dahmer was not drinking to enjoy himself, the author says it was clear that he was aiming to numb himself.
I hung around with what were considered 'outcasts'.
Was a rough time at home during my high school years, so maybe I just didn't want to fit in with the popular kids.
I didn't have the urge to murder people though.
Thanks for reminding me, now I've got the image of his X-ray where the pelvis is filled with needles stuck in my mind again. Out of all the serial killer stuff, that's what gets me.
I'm a loner who was weird as shit in school.
I set fires.
Wet the bed til I was 12.
I play violent video games and listen to disturbing music.
My parents had a messy divorce, and my older brother used to beat the shit out of me.
I've even jacked it to guro a few times.
But I have no urge to kill anything. I don;t even like to kill bugs. I'll put a spider or a wasp in a glass and take it outside.
I remember reading a study once that determined the minds of psychopaths and politicians are far closer to each other than either group is to the mind of the average person.
Kind of begs the question of whether there's really any difference.
We're all weird.
The difference for Jeff was that he didn't have anyone to help him through those times where he was having confusing feelings.
The author of this comic makes it clear that while he wasn't a major cause of Jeff's descent into darkness, he regrets not trying to make a difference.
This is a fun thread.
I don't know... I think I like the shorter version better.
When someone is writing about a real person and real life events but he wasn't there I feel it's just unfair to make any deductions.
Yeah, I believe I may have read the same study and it postulated that psychopaths tend to get into politics, law enforcement, and even become surgeons because it gives them unquestioned power over others and in the case of police and doctors, power over life and death.
My family is strangely involved with serial killers and criminals.
John Wayne Gacy. My dad lived near his house as a boy and had been to a few of the holiday parties that he had, before moving to Morton Grove IL.
Bizarrely we only found out that later that he was anonymously buried in the cemetery that my Dad's dad had designed, and where my Dad's family is all buried. It's strange because it's quite a distance from Gacy's original home in Norwood Park.
My Great Grandfather was an investigator for the H H Holmes murders of the World Columbian Exposition in Chicago, my Great Grandmother lived next to Al Capone when she was in her 20's in Chicago, and my Uncle lived in the apartment of Jeffery Dahmer.
Chicago and the Upper midwest is a bit fucked
Gonna be compltely honest, never heard of the guy, mainly because Im too young but before I read this is there any good documentaries/books on what happened or should I just surf the wikipedia article?
I'd say My Friend Dahmer is the best. After watching a few documentaries on YouTube they come across as "Dahmer was an average Joe from an all-American family, who somehow became a serial killer."
Image limit reached, I'll finish the rest in another thread.
I know, and that's what I think is interesting, what if they actually are right.
There was a british serial killer, same type as Dahmer, can't remember his name right now. One of his victims survived, and later turned out to also kill someone and is now in jail.
When I say a larger picture of it, I mean like generations later. Like, one of Dahmers victims would eventually be the grandfather of a new dictator that unleashes a biological weapon sort of thing.
I was slightly silly weirdo in high-school. The kinda that didn't understand other people, and who barely made an attempt to fit in. I was passive aggressive and preferred books to people.
Then again, I was terrified all the time of trying to fit in. I always got the feeling I wasn't supposed to fit in. Then I went to college and now I fit in whenever I talk, or even try to keep a connection.
Silence, or the absence of any positive interaction with other persons, can be a lot more pivotal in making someone hurt than the actual pain they experience. Cause everyone gets pain, but if you get absolutely no help like Dahmer, you get messed up by yourself and your own thoughts.
It sounds like bullshit, but it might make an interesting premise for a fictional story.
>The League of Extraordinary Serial Killers
You'd get some great publicity too through the controversy of depicting these guys as heroes.
I think serial killers are merely the predatory response to human domination. The more we assert ourselves at the top of the food chain, the more serial killers there'll be, cause everyone is prey there needs to be a predator, it's natural course.
It's funny to read this as I live a few minutes from Bath Township and actually pass through it weekly on regular errands.
The town is gorgeous and very high-end with a bunch of excellent restaurants and retailers there. LeBron James' house is there (which, oddly enough, is right off a normal street) and I've bumped into Shaq while at the mall in Fairlawn next door.
Wild to see it portrayed this way knowing what it has become.
Me too, what if the guys who killed Lincoln, Kennedy and John Lennon were all time travellers trying to prevent some horrible dystopic future, what if future hitlers are being killed everyday by time travellers, we would never know.
Weird stuff, but a few fun facts to throw out at parties.
In a bit of the same boat myself.
My grandpa was drinking buddies with Lee Harvey Oswald and was investigated by the FBI for Kennedy's assassination due to his... well, marine sharpshooter background and history of ~maybe~ killing people during barroom brawls.
>There was a british serial killer, same type as Dahmer, can't remember his name right now.
>The League of Extraordinary Serial Killers
I watched a largely shitty slasher flick with a premise vaguely similar to that; black magic brings a bunch of RL serial killers back to life.