Should a creator be criticized if they had drawn a lot of weird fetish art at one point?
Also out of curiosity how screwed would you personally be if you were ever to become a well known creator and your odd fetish was discovered?
Depends on how you behave about it.
Some people embrace it in the sense they just put it behind them. They don't make a big deal of it. They can go places no problem because they don't hide things and their employers or fans don't care.
Some people are just really good at hiding it, so we don't know whether or not they've made freaky fetish art. Same deal as the first with them, nobody pays it much mind and they're okay folk, so they get around.
People like Dobson, Shmorky, etc have always been faggots so they always get called on it regardless of whether they still do it or not.
Not at all, unless they're a douche like Dobbers.
The only fetishes I have are rape, electrocution, girls with thick asses, tickling and cuntboys.
Honestly the only people who might care would be SJWs because feminism and transgender rights I guess.
It depends on what he's like how.
I think it's worth bringing up for guys like Dobson and Diaz because they're trying to pull moral majority "don't be so sexist silly boys" shit while having all those skeletons in their closet.
Whereas a guy like Jollyjack isn't preaching to anyone, so it's not as relevant.
As a creative you put yourself on trial, but your character shoudln't be a part of the testimony until YOU open the door to it.
>Should a creator be criticized if they had drawn a lot of weird fetish art at one point?
No, but they're allowed to be mocked for it. Why wouldn't they?
Criticizing someone by saying "Your art sucks because you drew fetish shit" is an ad hominem, not valid as a way to prove they suck. Making fun of them for some weird ass shit they did is just life.
What the hell did you all do?
I make a living drawing furry porn to fund the real shit I want to do.
I'm not a furry at all. It does nothing for me. It's just a market I'm comfortable exploiting. If anyone somehow found out I'd tell them the same.
not gonna lie, I always thought inflation looked kind of comfy, but not sexy
like I imagine its something along the lines of the comfort of a big couch all over your body, makes me sleepy just thinking about it
same thing with vore, the concept of being eaten and dying sounds terrible, but the idea of being in a warm cozy place hugging your whole body sounds great. maybe not a wet and gooey one though. hmm.
A shit ton of artists have fetishes. They only get held against you if you have a very big ego. I mean, Dobson we make fun of because the guy never matures in art or attitudes. He acts like his opinions are fact and doesn't get why people dislike his work. (Macs are better than PC's, Nintendo was better when Mario was deep voiced and Link had Brown Hair) and so on. Dobson is a phony. That's why his fetish is held against him.
I think cooler artists who at least admit that they have a fetish and don't act like it's a crippling weak point would not be picked on so much.
For example, I think Opik-Oort is a legit good artist, even though majority of her stuff is inflation/blueberry.
There is that side.
I know how he feels. I still don't know what I'd do if my diaper fetish was found out. The only way out would be to avoid feeling ashamed, but I am completely, totally ashamed. Heck, that's part of the appeal.
how do you even get aroused by something that cant happen in the real world? it doesn't even have a biological benefit
Maybe. It depends on how hot the art is and how much of a douche the creator is.
Pic related. S&S's fetish art was super hot.
Loli, furry, prolapse, watersports, quad-amputee... Just scan my various f-list profiles.
I'd be fucked. But I'd also be likely to laugh it off and punish haters and fans alike by creating a kickstarter to fund my erotica.
I have a fetish for women getting hurt, so if anyone would give me shit I could just claim I'm a feminist and that this is just equality.
Everybody has a hobby. People tend to spend a ton of money on their hobbies.
Their hobby is pictures of anthropomorphic people fucking. I don't claim to understand it, but I will profit off of it.
A combination of massive egos, escapist fantasies and well paying tech support jobs.
I remember seeing a thing about furry professions and it was all doctors and engineers and shit.
Exactly what everyone else has replied to you said. I took up doing those commissions cause I needed money. Now I just don't feel like doing it anymore cause I don't want that being the art thing people pay me for. So I'm leaving it entirely.
It also didn't help that I started seeing people's faces that commission me through their email profile picture and I just didn't want to see who was asking for that weird shit.
Really depends on the quality of your current shit,
I mean if Dobby wasn't an untalented asshole who did little more than throw tantrums he could probably get away with it by saying, "yeah I was a weird kid, I bet you did some stupid shit too" and that would be the end of it.
The thing is the inflation art is only really made fun of because he's a smug hollier than though cunt who's shown no improvement or desire to improve
I agree with this. Doesn't help that a lot of people who draw inflation or vore are autistic as fuck and think wet sound effects are sexy (I mean by virtue of being on /co/ we're all a bit autistic, but fetishists are ridiculous. I just want comfy art and fics, not shit about how JEN GLOSH GLORPED EVERYWHERE AN' HER TIDDIES JIGGLED)
>the idea of being in a warm cozy place hugging your whole body sounds great.
You ever consider mummification/encasement bondage? It fits that description AND is possible in real life.
Most of them, even abstractly, seem to reach back to several basic ideas: of antipation and release, surrender/gain of control, humiliation or being against the rules of society, and comfort.
Why the bigger trends exist is anyone's guess, science has no fucking clue why fetishes manifest.
Bondage, mild injury, guro, crossdressing
The first three are almost definitely from shit happening to Disney princes, the last could be any old cartoon because it used to be super common.
I worry that if I finally break into the
TV entertainment industrylike I want, that people will do digging and find out how into the furry fandom I am, and even more so, that it is entirely safe for work. I just like animals and animal people.
I am a legal-sexual, I will fuck anything that is legal.
>what do you think caused your weird ass fetishes?
A lot of mine were caused by weird dreams or weird sex dreams.
I'd have a dream and then subsequently have a fetish for it afterwards.
I sincerely believe it was my constant consumption of video games and cartoons, and lack of proper sex education.
Somehow I ended up in life with a fetish for being raped. I know it sounds contradictory.
There have been plenty of highly recognized people in media and associations that had their personal fixations exposed. Whether a person holds respect and admiration after the fact is based on how they improved, how they currently carry themselves, or how it affects their work/public image.
I was bombarded with anthro movies as a kid because my mom thought they were safe and cute.
Mom. Why did you do this to me? I never asked for this.
It always seems weird to me when I see some fetish art on Deviantart or something and I notice that the artist is genuinely good. They have some amazing talent and should be making money but instead are making fetish fuel on Deviantart.
Deviantart is almost a cautionary tale at this point.
Part of that can be what messages about sex you encountered. There's been plenty of cases of people raised in super sex-negative environments ending up with that because then it's "okay" to enjoy it because it's not their fault for doing dirty sexual things.
if you were raised sex-neutral or-positive lol idk either
It's almost like fetishes are like a bizarre game of chance - the ones you end up with are related to whatever it is you were doing/watching the moment you start developing sexually.
Nobody cares about Paul Robertson's animated pixels with strobe lighting, mutants and cocks flapping around everywhere, Rebecca Sugar's EEnE porn or Osamu Tezuka's pretty-looking animal porn stash.
Even if your kinks show in your work like Tezuka's did, it doesn't matter because everyone knows he contributed something and didn't make a giant ass about himself while doing it.
Dobson however is a giant ass to the point where the Inflation Community was the one that ousted him, to get revenge on how he left the community and what he ended up turning into.
It is (or used to be) the reverse actually--the fans are a crowd of yes-men, and the artist becomes addicted to the easy praise. Then when they try to branch out to somewhere like conceptart.org, they can't handle the normal to harsh critiques they get. This is usually the moderately-good artist level rather than the astounding ones, though.
Nobody gives Fred Perry or Adam Warren crap for their kinky shit, because they actually tell good stories. Hell, Claremont jammed in his fetishes all over X-men when he wrote it, and nobody really minded because it was actually worth reading.
My fetishes aren't really too weird, mostly just role reversal stuff. I grew up terminally ill and the impression I got from growing up this way was thinking that I was defective and burdensome, less than human, and outside the human race in general, so I've become a very submissive person who gets off on being dominated by a female. Years of surgeries and painful procedures make it where you have to learn to numb yourself to emotions and sometimes turn pain into a form of pleasure.
I think this is probably true. I can pretty much trace every single one of my odd fetishes back to a late childhood/early adolescence experience, most of them /co/ related.
it's still funny. I need dobson in my life
There's not much more about me beyond that, I'm afraid.
>plethora of genetic defects
>5'1" (155 cm) height
>too spergy to ever had a friend
>former hardcore weeb
>severely clinically depressed
>severe anxiety and panic disorder
That one episode of Dexter where he eats a giant burrito and is afraid he's going to end the world, then has an Earth shattering fart may have caused a slight fart fetish. I would always want to see that specific episode
Pretty much all artists draw porn sooner or later. The based ones are unapologetic and just draw what they like.
The thing is with this fuqqboi, he's a jabroni so people look for ammo to throw at him - comes in the form of inflation porn.
My fetish is literally just martial arts/sweet fight sequences with attractive
malecombatants, so it's pretty well disguised anyhow.
It's literally PG-13, and honestly nobody has to know or care that I literally jizz myself watching Bruce Lee movies.
My gains shriveled up 2 years ago. I can barely lift anything over a couple pounds now and my stamina is shot. I'm just waiting to die, but I can't back out of an organ transplant, so now I'm stuck in Hell while the search for good organs goes on.
This. Making fun of people's fetishes is harmless fun, and that person should accept it as part of having a weird fetish. Saying someone is a bad person or that their art is bad because of their fetish is stupid
This is going to be such a copout answer, but one of my biggest fetishes is partner enjoyment. As in how much the partner enjoys it and is into it directly influences how aroused it makes me.
An embarrassing fetish I have is...pretty much nothing, I'm not really embarrassed by any of my fetishes. The out and out weirdest one I have really is, like, xeno/aliens and stuff.
If I could draw Id draw whatever was fucking asked of me for the money. I don't care how weird it is. Everyone I know would think it was hilarious too.
They want to pay up Id be happy to take it.
Im not sure how long it takes to do a commission but it gotta be more than what I get now.
How do porn artists file their income on their tax forms?
>but the idea of being in a warm cozy place hugging your whole body sounds great. maybe not a wet and gooey one though. hmm.
Well, most people forget to bring their blankets when they get vored.
I want to make a comic at some point, but for now I just doodle shit here and there.
I mostly have some vanilla shit and look into other weird shit out of curiosity. Only thing I could be judged for would be for drawing Daisy (from Mario) farting, but I wanted to please everybody in the thread and ended up making 3 different versions. One with a bulge, a normal one, and then some guy wanted a fart.
I just doodle and try to improve, but it seems I draw better if I stop for like 3 weeks and then jump right in. My style is a pretty noticeable.
I actually lost an autistic comic book I drew full of cringeworthy shit. I have no idea where it went. Shitty jokes and shitty drawings, but I was in middle school and was a dork so whatever.
By definition a fetish is something that has to do with mating that's been exaggerated to a point that it's unrecognizable. Trace any fetish back far enough and it'll be a normal part of reproduction.
For example, inflation comes from wanting to fill a woman with as much of your seed as you can to increase the chance of impregnation.
Also not that anon, but it could be that on a basic level there's 2 appeals: being dominated by the vorer, and the tactility (imagining the squishiness, wetness of being inside the belly). But yeah, if you want to be a real armchair psychologist I guess you could say it represents wanting to return to the womb.
>someone using your body to fill theirs for the sake of sexual pleasure.
Unexaggerate it and it becomes simple.
Though for a lot of people it's just purely a power thing.
>Overpowering someone to the point that your body overtakes theirs
Domination, in it most physical form.
I feel like I should like vore since it's closely related to my fat fetish, but my morals don't allow me to see it as something more than murder. Like consuming someone and digesting them, I can't fap to people dying.
Also my tastes evolved over time, I used to just like inflation and women with like balloon bellies a la Axel Rosered and when they were fat in other areas it kinda grossed me out, but now they need to have fat all over their body and almost all inflation does nothing for me.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm probably more into stuffing and inflation now than fat, so there seems to be more of an incentive for me to like same-size vore, but I just can't. It seems really bizarre to me that people find anything sexy about vore preds, who are these strange human-like creatures who clearly don't have a jawbone, rib-cage or any internal organs and who literally murder people because they get a bit hungry or bored.
Not only that, but after murdering people, they have the nerve to pretend like it's not a big deal and it was just a funny or cute thing to do, usually with awful fetish porn dialogue.
I get that people justify it by saying there's a disassociation or something, but once there's people dying I just can't cross that line.
Is it wrong to value human life, /co/? Even in fap material?
As a guy into ryona, snuff, guro, and necro. I would say no its not wrong to be turned off by death, even overly and poorly acted fake death. Its a fetish, by definition it is not normal.
Like I think inflation is wierd and gross but hey who am I too judge.
A fetish is a fetish. It's personal to you, something either gets you off or it doesn't. What is a bit weird is spending so much effort trying to justify NOT being into vore. It's fine anon. 4chan might be a fucked up place but you're not expected to like shitting dick nipples.
I have a covered face fetish and I think I should blame Silent Hill's nurses for that, and they probably also have something to do with my liking for monster girls
Other than that I have a lactation fetish, but I think that's just a natural evolution of my passion for boobs
>Anon we have reason to believe you have been laundering money through your "Art business". Could you please explain to the judge how you managed to sell a sketch of a dog farting for $599
P-people jack off to it
>I'm sorry son you'll have to speak up
i-Itss my fetish
>One more time, into the microphone
I SAID I DRAW BIG FLOPPY DOG KNOBS FOR MONEY! OKAY?
People rag on that Shadman guy all the time, but he's popular. People who think he's shit say
>he did guro, futa, etc. and is still a fag to this day
Meanwhile people who like his stuff don't complain. They ignore it and fap to his current garbage or take it in stride because those are their fetishes and they have low standards.
I don't like him so I just see him as another faggot.
You ever get that feeling when you did something you thought was right and funny to do then, and then it resurfaces to bite you in the ass?
That's what I'm feelin'. This guy may have had an odd fetish
and he pandered to the lowest common denominator with those sonic videos he did, but he just wanted to make animations.
And now look what's happened, I feel kinda sorry for the guy. It's like when /lit/ crushed a person's dreams that one time when they wanted to review books.
>i want to put my penis inside of her
>what if i put it really deep inside of her
>so deep that all of my body is inside of her
>wait that's not how vagainas work
>i guess i'll go through the mouth
No. Get a competent artist, and they will draw porn at some point. Or things people will call porn, because they are prudish idiots.
People like Dobson are called out on their hypocrisy. Dobson's art revolves almost completely around his own insecurity, and this triggers a Streisand effect when people discover his old art. It doesn't help that inflation is one of the weirder fetishes.
But take a look at the Phoglio's of Girl Genius, nobody gives tow fuck that they used to do tentacle porn, despite Girl Genius being a shitty comic. That's because they're not preachy. They're not hypocrities. But with hypocrites like Dobson, people love rubbing their noses in the facts.
honestly i see people shitting on shad all the time for his art rather than his personality. i don't know anything about the dude and i dont dislike his art style. also he caters to one or two of my fetishs so i have no problem having a fap to his stuff every once in a while.
The only thing I really dislike about Shadman is that there was a glimmer of original humour in his earlier comics. The comic about the TF2 Pyro being a burned monstrosity who lies down among his victims was oddly touching. And the comic about a fat gamer who yells how he "raped" his opponents, gets told off by his sister, then rapes her causing him to be killed in the game, suddenly giving him the sensation of being raped himself was actually kind of smart.
His porn is just kind of weird, with odd perspective and everything. Shadman could have been one of those people who uses offensive imagery to hide a better point within.
I don't fucking care if someone has a fetish, Dobson's expansion art sucked ass and I couldn't get a boner to it. This is a fucking achievement as I can usually cum loads to soft-core expansion smut.
The guy himself acts like an asshole and sucks up to Brianna Wu on Twitter for 5-6 hours consecutively every day (he once made about 21 posts consecutively attempting to prove that he "didn't care" about what someone said to him, despite nobody caring UNTIL he did this). Or he did until she finally couldn't tolerate him
It doesn't matter who you are or what you believe, I only know one person who actually sympathizes with Dobby.
A lot of people are out of a job and live with their families or parents, right? Dobson lives in the basement of his disgusting girlfriend who hasn't touched him in five years. You can look this up, and his bear-comics (specifically the one mentioning "the water pipes in the ceiling") even point to this. This is a 30 year old man living with a woman who can't stand him.
He's also somehow socially retarded and offensive to autists at the same time. (Sound odd? See his twitter posts from late 2015, there are a lot of threads on this pariah.)
Didn't Dobson also turn down a job doing children's books, talking really young here like toddlers or maybe just a slightly bit older, that his mother lined up for him because he felt he was too good for that work?
This pic right here is one of the earliest things I remember finding hot.
Fun fact: Kiyohiko Azuma did a few porn comics in his early career.
If it makes you feel any better they weren't loli comics, though one involved a teacher with a strong resemblance to Yukari.
Eh, nothing really speiffic. Just getting tired of what I was looking at and then searching for something new and different, not necessarily something more extreme or whatever. I just got the fetishes as I happen to stumble onto things by pure chance.
No, I don't think so. As long as it does not spill over into their professional work it does not affect me.
The issue with dobson's inflation fetish was that he already had a lot of critics with legitimate criticism and it just became another angle to attack him from.
In general it should not matter if a artist likes to doodle characters being sodomized on the side.
I'm into BDSM, but I remember having BDSM-oriented fantasies since before I even knew what sex or masturbation were. Completely in line with the stereotype, I did learn how to jack off from a news program describing child abuse. The victims described that the perp forced them to jerk each other off, and I didn't know what that meant. So I was like "mom, what does jerking off mean", and my mom -good parent that she is- basically gave a short description of how to jerk off. I tried it the next day, and haven't stopped since. I'm glad I remember my early fantasies, otherwise I'd no doubt blame my interest in BDSM on this.
My other fetish is fur, and I did watch a lot of anthro cartoons. mainly Robin Hood, of course, and I was obsessed with foxes. Even wore a fox costume to some school dress-up thing. But the thing is, this never made me furry. I came into contact with the fetish when I got onto Something Awful, and they did their Awful Link of the day. It was the first real "weird" thing I saw, excluding old Western BDSM art that just tossed what we'd call guro in there without warning*. I was obsessed with this weird stuff, despite jumping on the furry hate bandwagon with everyone else. There was also Morrowind, which meshed really well with my BDSM inclination by making all the animal people slaves. I'd walk into all the slave caves, and free all the Khajiit and Argonians, who'd then praise me and worship me. Felt good.
But, at the end of the day, I can't blame cartoons or comics.
*Oldfashioned Western BDSM art is a weird thing, when you get down to it. There is no division in genres, like in Jap art, so most of it just crosses some line somewhere, like suddenly seguing into cannibalism or gore. Or it's very specific in its fetishism, like this one guy who's seriously one of the best porn artists I've seen who gets off to weird breast stretching stuff. Drew lots of women in harnesses designed to stretch their breasts. Weird stuff.
>those are their fetishes and they have low standards.
Never seen any of Shadman's work so no idea what they do art wise. But it is possible they're the only ones making content of those fetishes. So it's not a question of standards, it's a question of his shit being the only, at least new, stuff being made of that fetish.
I got a fetish where the only new content being made, at least regularly, are shit MSpaint doodles on DA. If Shadman's at least good enough to make money off of their art I'd most likely take him over the garbage I'm used to being stuck with.
In my experience, people have fucking low standards in general, no matter the subject. It's not even limited to art, mind you. Remember, Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey were insanely popular. People would sit down in front of the TV and make shit like Alf a popular comedy show.
So people having shitty taste in porn isn't such a surprise. In the meantime all the "normal" people who would retch at what I jack off to are content to watch silicone-breasted blonde bimbo's get banged in porn that's so boring you could use it as a sleeping aid.
James Bond movies
I was scared shitless over aliens when i was a kid so as a defense mechanism I started jerking off whenever I thought about them to take my mind off it.
I have a sneaking suspicion it's because as a kid I walked in on my parents having sex once and even though they were doing it "vanilla" style, it made me associate sex with pain cause I couldn't place what they were doing in my juvenile mind.
I have absolutely no idea where I got mine.
The idea of being wrapped up in something had to come from Morpha from Ocarina of Time, especially the official art for it, which that eventually led to seeing it with snakes. Maybe because vore was what come next it clicked for me, but I don't know exactly what triggered it. Both are fine I guess.
No, unless said fetish is illegal (Child Porn in all forms. And actually acting upon stuff like guro or necrophilia, though I'm sure/hopeful that's a super low percentage).
Certainly not if its the distant past. People change, so should only have opinions formed against them for current actions. And having a weird kink ain't one of them anyway.
Dobson has plenty of other far more justifiable and current reasons to point and laugh at him than balloons anyways
>fatties and weight gain
>Fart and burping
>Brown girls of all sorts
I grew up in a very vanilla, whitebread household. We weren't Catholic just very moral and straight laced. I think the result of that became me fetishizing what a girl "shouldn't" be: fat, greedy, lazy, sexually aggressive, even butch or masculine in some cases. From there it spiralled out and turned into a menagerie of different kinks, only 10% of which can be applied in real life which makes me kind of sad.
>tfw I can't fatten a tough muscly/army girl into a jiggly sex object with zero consequences involved
Fuck real life
I'm into hyper. I think I just have shit taste. Hyper is the McDonald's of fetishes. I don't seem to recall watching anything when I was little that contained tiddies the size of balance balls. Maybe I was just a dumb ass kid and saw that girls who were supposed to be sexy had big boobs, so bigger = sexier.
Why is it that artists become extremely nihilistic at everyone else including their fans? I honestly find this concept stupid and pretentious because, why?
If they're so short-tempered at everything, then why are they still publicly showing about their vent? Wouldn't it make sense if they didn't go online and expose too much or just become normal people?
It's the same problem with Themrock too.
AnimatedJames can't handle criticism. I can't tell if this is a cry for attention or mercy but either way he's probably making the right decision for his mental health by quitting.
As for the reviewer it's amazing how hypocritical and lacking in self-awareness people can be, shitting on something as a profession and then complaining when your own review is shat on.
only 4chan cares because this place has become the internet morality police in the last few years and no one else gives a shit if you like to fuck or inflate animals unless it's some SJW irritant like loli or non-con
no, no artist should be judged for their fetishes or lewds on the side if it doesn't impact their works, or even if it does but not to the detriment of quality.
Well, people don't say that shit "goes to your head" for no reason. It's just a side effect of the fame. Suddenly there are hundreds or thousands of people listening to them, where previously it was just a few. So people get the idea that suddenly their ideas have to be "important". They try to mirror the change in position with a change in affect.
Alternatively, they also feel like they can get away with it. And they can. People can get too big to fail. Say you have a minimum wage job, and you misplace something. You get fired, right? Politicians lose millions, and nobody fires them. It works the same for artists. Go to your friends right now, and call them idiots, and you're without friends. Do it to your fans, and there's more of them than you can count, no matter what you say. Combine this with their "important" opinions, and you have an asshole artist. Especially when you also consider that people will defend them. I used to visit a sci-fi writer's blog, and he was a total dictator in the comment section. As in, extremely petty, saying he wants a discussion, but warning every user who goes against the grain that he will ban them because his blog "is not a democracy". And people back him up at every turn, respond to his posts just sucking his dick, and basically acting like unpaid janitors when he isn't around.
Personally, it made me drop him completely. But everyone else on there is still buying his books. He doesn't notice that I'm gone.
This is bait but I'm still going to take it
>Possibly crossdressing (the few black weeks I know are super into it)
Am I close, or just being a generalizing dick?
It's a classic case of he who is without sin casting the first stone. EVERYBODY has at least one fetish. I may not understand some of the stranger ones, like vore, but I'm not going to hold it against someone.
>an outcry for attention or mercy
Hope the guy doesn't kill himself.
>I'm into BDSM, but I remember having BDSM-oriented fantasies since before I even knew what sex or masturbation were.
I also had that. I distinctly remember enjoying 'damsel in peril' situations when I was like 6 or 7, probably earlier, and I didn't completely understand why. Not until later, of course. Also I've heard a lot of people say the same thing, submissives and dominants, they were just born into it. It's strange.
I had surgery when I was only a toddler. It was a frightening experience. I'm convinced that's what warped my brain.
I never understand how watching cartoons could affect you folks like that. I always assumed that it had to be something stronger that was already in place. And then the cartoon "activated" it or whatever.
Or maybe it really doesn't take that much to cause a fetish in a child. Who knows?
Your establishing statement lacked any connection to what I was referring to mine.
I was simply saying that why I don't get how some talented-artists are usually apathetic with a lot of things including that their fans and viewers support their content instead of trying to become optimistic of the outlook rather than hating everything and taking advantage of their ego and attention-whore the shit out of themselves.
I never said anything about income or was expecting with that being relevant in my statement.
I'm not sure where most of mine came from, but I know a couple. That Scooby Doo episode with the hypnosis clown got me into hypno. I remember loving the Daphne part.
I think inflation and weight gain just came from being on the internet. Anyone remember The Page of Boobs? I think that got me into expansion in general, there was some fat art on there that got me into fat/WG.
I'm sure something got me into weird transformation stuff. I remember recording episodes of Josie and the Pussycats in Outer Space on the off chance that something WEEEEIRD would happen to one of the girls.
Most likely from having a female childhood friend who was native american
I guess from watching Disney princess movies a lot as a kid
>This is going to be such a copout answer, but one of my biggest fetishes is partner enjoyment. As in how much the partner enjoys it and is into it directly influences how aroused it makes me.
Holy shit I thought I was alone
Dobson's fetish is often used against him because he judges other people for what they like. Same with Diaz and his robo amputee fetish.
Also Dobson judged people for objectifying women when he pretended to be a girl who objectified women.
How well known are we talking? If I was celebrity status and had fangirls it would be hot as hell. My fetish is more or less normal and if I could get gaggles of nubile young women to enact it whenever I went to cons it would be paradise.
>Should a creator be criticized if they had drawn a lot of weird fetish art at one point?
When someone makes a shit ton of "dont objectify women" comics when he makes a bunch of weird fetish comics that objectify women, then yes because hes a hypocrite.
Also, people criticized dobson for many, Many, MANY other reasons besides what hes drawn in the past.
>Also out of curiosity how screwed would you personally be if you were ever to become a well known creator and your odd fetish was discovered?
My "odd fetish" is women blushing, so I think I'm in the clear, aside from maybe feminazis.
To his credit, at least he draws his shit. There are a bunch of people who have a comic series that just copy paste bodies then copy paste faces.
feet and femdom. no idea. pretty cool how popular it is though, also I guess it works IRL; I've dated chicks that like having their toes sucked and stuff, so it's not that outlandish I guess
>how screwed would you personally be if you were ever to become a well known creator and your odd fetish was discovered?
>I am never allowed to make media for children again
>feminists call for my head
I would be fucked.
I knew about that. It's pretty funny he went from porn to doing slightly adult comedy in Azumanga, then downright wholesomeness in Yotsuba.
And it also helps the teacher doesn't look THAT much like Yukari. It's mostly just the hair.
You got a link to that comic, by the way?
People don't criticize him because of his fetish art (unless they're bringing up past art to watch him get pissed off and deny it), they criticize Dobson because he's a hypocrite. And because his comics are clearly drawn just for him while pretending to be for some kind of audience, as if they appreciate watching him outsmart figments of his imagination.
If I ever become a well known cartoonist and people find my old stuff (and they WILL) I'm going to do two things - acknowledge that I drew it, and move on. That's all you can do, of course I'd look stupid if I tried denying years worth of drawings. The only thing I'd feel bad about is how my older work looks bad.
Which episode of 2 Stupid Dogs? The on where they were eaten by the witch, or the one where Big Dog ate the Brady Bunch kids?
Mine had less to do with /co/ and just my own autistic childhood, but TMNT ties in there at one point.
When I was in preschool there was a unisex bathroom that was pretty much just two toilets in a closet with a drain in the middle of the floor. There were two doors, each going to a different classroom. One day I went to the bathroom with another boy and we discussed the drain on the floor and decided to just pee down that. We talked about how it went to the sewer and laughed about our pee landing on the heads of the Ninja Turtles.
On a different day, I went to the bathroom and there was a girl from the other class already in there, sitting on the toilet. I sparked up conversation by stating, "girls sit down to pee, but boys can stand up!" and she nodded and added, "because your peepees are different." We did a little show and tell with our privates, and then I asked her the most important question of our young lives:
"Wanna see me pee on the Ninja Turtles?"
She said something along the lines of "ok" and watched me pee on the drain while I explained that it went to the sewer where the Ninja Turtles live. After I was done we pretty much just pulled our respective pants up and went back to our classrooms; I believe we were watching Land Before Time 3 in mine.
I have an erp friend who is big on that too but it also kills me if we can't hit some fetishes of theirs too because it feels like the sexting version of being a selfish lover.
And I know for a fact they have a laundry list of stuff too which has some overlap with me and some things I don't like but know they do and aren't boner killers for me, but can't get them to assert that sometimes.
Also I apparently have forgotten we're not on /tg/ or something.
"Vore fetishism" is complicated, with multiple potential facets of arousal for those that possess the paraphilia; this is reflected most clearly in the inconsistency of subject matter within content featuring vorarephilia, indicated by posing such questions as: what are the genders occupying the potential roles within a piece of vore media (both genders, man or woman, with perhaps only a slight bias to the latter), for what reasons is it happening, what happens to all parties involved after consumption occurs, is consumption whole or via mastication or other, what are the physical sizes of the parties involved (potentially vast disparities), which orifices are being used to consume someone or thing (don't look into this, it's utterly vile), and who knows what else. It occupies a vast spectrum of horrifying possibilities, hybridising with other paraphilias more than perhaps any single fetish in existence.
As alluded to earlier, some men (and maybe women) are aroused by its ties to being within the body, the womb, and so their brains sexualise being consumed by a female -- the frequency of paraphilia overlap, as mentioned, means this is commonly not a human woman. It is almost always a "heterosexual" interaction within the content, between a man and a woman, the woman being the consumer. This can go one step further, wherein they're aroused by direct reversal of the birth process, and the vagina itself is used as the consuming orifice.
Another anon alluded to dominance and power dynamics, about how consuming someone else and adding them to yourself was the ultimate show of power and domination over another; this is also extremely common, and may tap into the same primal source from which fetishism of rape and cannibalism spring. These kinds of interactions mostly feature a male in the consuming position, with as often as not a male or female being consumed.
This is just scratching the surface. There's so much more, and it's all awful, but fascinating.
Didn't he also blog about PsychicPebbles
prank calling him? Allegedly Zach called him on Skype, farted into the microphone, asked if it made his wiener hard and started laughing.
If all of your friends are connected to a certain setting (school/work/etc) and you have to leave for embarrassing reasons, keeping in touch might seem like a bad idea, and getting back in touch might feel impossible.
When I dropped out of college due to depression, I told everyone I was leaving to help take care of my grandfather (which was also technically true, just not the driving force). The only friend I still have and regularly talk to is the guy that I met in 6th grade; if he hadn't gone to the same college as I did, I would have literally no friends right now.
Zach called him on Skype, farted into the microphone, asked if it made his wiener hard and started laughing.
Oh, that's not my art, that's Keiji, who I believe quit some time ago. I do draw, however, so if you're curious enough I can post an imgur link because I don't want to disrupt the thread.
>Should a creator be criticized if they had drawn a lot of weird fetish art at one point?
No, not really. Unlike most people, artists and content creators have some rather niche tastes.
>Also out of curiosity how screwed would you personally be if you were ever to become a well known creator and your odd fetish was discovered?
Its a good thing I destroy everything I make after its served its purpose. But it shouldn't screw myself over too bad if I ever become well known. To illustrate, ABADDON and Aaron Neathery share the same fetish and traces of their art can be found if you look in the right places. But, when asked about it they just play along with it. So thats what I'll do, keep it under wraps and if people do find out about it, be stoic and act like nothing happened.
Then again, it also depends on what kind of fetish you have.
I partly blame Totally Spies and Mrs. Jessica Claus for my main fetish. The other part of the blame arises from believing at a young age that my future wife will get fat and I trained myself to appreciate weight gain. Then I learned this was not necessarily the case and now I have this among other fetishes I have.
Deviantart taught me there was a fetish for women getting sucked into toilets, vacuums, genie bottles. Other than the art being laughable, can't imagine it would have that much an impact if people found out
In a study done with Peacocks, they took a male Peacock with very large tail feathers vs a male with average feathers.
The females, a majority of the time, went for the male with the larger feathers.
They they used the same male with the large tail feathers, and put him up against a piece of wood with absurdly gigantic Peacock tail feathers that do not exist in the natural world, and if anything, would weigh so much that the peacock would be slowed down and easily eaten by a predator.
The females overwhelming went for the piece of wood with the massive tail feathers. Even though it was just a piece of wood, sorta kinda colored like a peacock.
Humans beings are even more sexual than peacocks. We're one of the most sexual species on earth. The human brain can connect anything to sexual stimulation.
It's because we're all just monkeys.
>I couldn't sleep last night, so I drew this. I just couldn't stop thinking of a thing that happened to me that made me feel completely alone and isolated. It was last year, but I could never stop thinking about it ever since, and I'm tired of repressing it. In a nutshell, one day psychicpebbles and a bunch of his friends called me on skype for the soul reason of mocking and ridiculing me like a bunch of 6th graders.
>This pretty much destroyed my self esteem for a while, and even though they didn't mean any harm… what they said and how they acted was still really inconsiderate and immature, and I seriously can never speak to them again without getting angry. I keep having flashbacks to that experience, and it always makes me feel like a freak. And that experience is the reason why I always assume the worst of people. I always assume the person I'm talking to is a complete dick, until proven otherwise. Hence this drawing.
I've always seen full body inflation as being like a really intense form of bondage. The sense of being helpless, trapped in yourself, and at someone else's mercy and control, does wonders for me.
Shit man don't judge me for my weird fantasies.
Unless I'm mistaken he's talking about a while back when /lit/ found this cute, shy book reviewer on youtube and got way too attached. Sending her lewd messages and creeping her out. The girl ended up taking all her reviews down and just vanished.
>In general it should not matter if a artist likes to doodle characters being sodomized on the side.
Most porn artist/artist that did some porn on the side are generally pretty cool about the stuff they do and know who they deal with.
Dobson is a guy that gets disgusted over a cover showing some boobs in a comic store and then drops his pants to furiously jerk off while screaming about how much he respects women's rights.
Specifically criticized? No. I know 2 artists who draw what they both refer to as "shame art", one of which smart enough to use a name they don't go by online otherwise. Surprise surprise, it pays really well. I would not be surprised to hear any artist has done this because it really is a good supplemental income. If they do it for hobby, then that would raise and eyebrow but I suppose it doesn't effect their artistic talent otherwise.
Now can we make fun of them for it? Oh hell yeah.
i dont think people should catch shit for having fetishes, but in the very least jokes need to be made. if i were a content creator and people knew i liked futa and joked about me getting fucked or sucking dick i would think it was hilarious
>Less triggering than tumblr
I know that not everyone on that site is an SJW stereotype but its very format makes for it to be super easy to create soothing circlejerks where the only stuff you see is what you want to see, which is how you get that whole SJW stereotype in the first place as those people sort of hype each other up.
How do you get less triggering than that?
It doesn't matter, the project (Inkpen or something like that) crumbled.
The bigger problem is that you can't keep stuff contained (like having a private livejournal or whatever) so if something you post spreads to the wrong person with a shit ton of followers and pisses them off, you're fucked.
Here it is in all it's screencapped glory.
Pregnant women do it for me,
I don't know how or why I got this fetish, don't really care, only downside is that it's hard to find a 'no strings attached' sexual relationship.
Good thing I can always settle for the next best thing; women with big hips
Imgur it is.
Nope. Don't like to. My loyalty is 4chan's. And, you know, that other site you get when you double the number.
Too bad a large majority of people these days lack that sense of humor.
I mean how insecure do you have to be about yourself, if you can't even chuckle at your own flaws every once in a while.
I don't think anything in particular cause my hypnosis/mind control fetish. I remember being very young (4/5) watching the hypnosis Scooby-Doo episode and getting a boner, and enjoying watching it a lot--far before I knew what a boner was or what I was feeling. I was turned on in a similar way to other hypnosis/mind control scenes in cartoons.
The circlejerking only lasts until you fuck up.
That food high school thing was the most annoying and disappointing shit ever.
>MFW all the male character suggestions were constantly ignored by drawfags and left out of every write-up
Well yea, that's standard for any BNF.
The reason internet SJ is such a minefield isn't because of ~omg tumblr~, it's because it shares a lot of framework with how fandoms work, which often means a lot of toxic behavior and backbiting.
Hell, if fandom hadn't migrated to tumblr, people would probably be calling this /co/vejournal or something
One more for now.
I don't think I've seen any fanart of Louise in her robe.
Which artists do you keep an eye on/follow /co/?
>Filename not pleasereadmycomiccucumberquest.wav
Dobs is a fucking tool, and I don't like his art either. Even his inflation stuff, and I'm into pregnancy and inflation to the point where that's all I can get off to.
If you want inflation artists that can draw and aren't full of themselves, try opik-oort, shydude, or axel-rosered. Those dudes can actually draw.
I'm not ashamed of my fetish personally, but given that people treat furries like they should literally be executed and mass murdered, I'm a little worried that people finding out would be a PR disaster at the very least.
I love your art Ross and you're a source of inspiration, but you're making NoFap 2016 a difficult trial.
you should see his facebook, he tries to write such profound shit on his page like every day, it gets old. but his comedy is still good and its not like he is a bad person entirely, so i forgive him.
friends with an artist who had a tumblr for like a year. one day it is taken down because she drew a pic to this event if anyone remembers.
It's not the Dobbers has a weird fetish, it's that he's a huge douche.
If he had perfectly normal sexual tastes we'd just find something else about him to rip on. Nobody cares if you have a fetish as long as you're not a fucking failure like the Dobbler.
I can still get off to it, it's not BlueLeader or anything. It's more on par with critical-volume or whatever.
My point still stands with shydude and opik though. Best inflation artists I've seen hands-down.
A few months back a few anons and drawfags here started a project about a high school full of food people. It was the usual fetish fare, big butts, weight gain, chubby girls, and inflation, all that. Stuff it died out pretty fast but there was a hefty bit of art and some fap material written up.
Pretty much this. People tell me they got fetishes because of THAT ONE EPISODE of a cartoon and even though it might be my favorite childhood cartoon I didn't get that fetish at all.
I disagree with this, at least in regards to hypnosis. Most people with an Mc fetishes report it first showing super early in childhood, and not related to any event in their lives, watching cartoons or otherwise.
>Paypal now sends info about money transactions directly to the gubmint if you live in Canada or the US
I don't think so Tim. Enjoy that IRS dick if you don't report those dog dick pictures you drew :^)
No, however there is one exception. That exception being if the person is some colossal hypocrite like Dobson. He's a huge SJW and White Knight that is constantly making posts crying "Stop doing sexist crap!" and yet he has in the past done inflation porn.
As a diaperfag, would I be shamed if I'm not an egotist? Also, I'm a Sonichu-tier content creator, but I'm aware of it. I want to make stuff that's shit, have a fetish that's shit, but be treated as a human being, if that makes sense.
Would such a thing really go to court though? I guess if you're making something ridiculous like 50k a year solely through commissions to private clients the government would get suspicious, but I doubt even the richest furry artists make that much.
>living in Canada or the US
That was your mistake. Here in Bongland you just don't bother registering as self employed so you don't have to fill in a self assessment tax return and no-one cares about anything you earn on the side. If you have other regular employment you'll never be bothered, and if you don't you'd need to be a seriously prolific smut artist to earn more than the untaxed first £10,600 of your income in commissions.
Tell me, should it not be alright for a guy to do a complete 180 in regards to drawing fetish stuff, and start condemning it? I mean, as long as the guy is completely honest about his former work and doesn't try to hide it
Not saying this applies to Dobson. He's an ass that changes his opinions along with the weather
I think you should be worried less about your weird fat fetish and more that you're drawing children as objects of fetishism. yeah yeah I know not real kids but thats the sort of thing you get lynched over
If Opik did more male stuff he'd be my hero.
I've seriously considered commissioning him for some once or twice but those prices mang.
>You guys say that now
What do we say? You didn't link to a post.
And you're asking, what if my favourite artist was found to draw loli torture porn? I couldn't give two shits as long as they're not actually raping and torturing real kids. Learn to separate fantasy from reality.
The sort of stuff you'd get lynched over IF I was on tumblr or any other art site, but I know 4chan doesn't care so yeah. Plus I don't really have it in me to draw porn. I have my kinks but I'm really pretty vanilla. I understand the concern that it's still a character being fetishized, but it's just a character. That's not something I learned to accept overnight, it took like three years of wrestling with my conscience. I figure as long as I lay low and don't draw characters like Louise in those situations for money, I should be fine.
This fucking game gave me a fetish for shoes that don't cover the whole foot.
eating your children so the wife wants to make more or eating the children of your tribe so no one is filling the gene pool but you.
That's unrelated though, vore is about togetherness taken to the highest extreme.
Holy shit, that's hilarious,
I commission her, and the name on her paypal was female. Not to mention her patreon for those over $100 says
hour/month, over Skype or Picarto. I can spend the hour doodling for you, doing mini tutorials, critiquing/redlining/painting over your artwork, anything reasonably art related. I reserve the right to end the call/stream if behaviour gets too creepy or harrassing. Times will be arranged after the pledge payment has been processed.
>>I reserve the right to end the call/stream if behaviour gets too creepy or harrassing.
Opik is female.
Sorry, that's all I got. Here's what I comissioned.
Why do so many fetish pictures not have any nudity/sex in them? Is it really enough for you to just have the fetish with nothing sexual happening? Or do artists stay away from explicitness to maintain some kind of deniability or something?
I'm an orbfucker, but that's entirely /v/ related.
Honestly, I don't even know what started it. I've had this
orbsession for well over a decade. Possibly longer.
>tfw I don't have anything weird
I just like porn in general. I can tolerate a lot of fetishes though. Stuff like xeno and anthro (bug) finds it's way into my collection. Despite that, I actually just end up on xnxx 99% of the time.
Actually, it's only Meta Knight. I've always really liked his design, despite it being somewhat DeviantArt OC tier. Also, his deep, gravelly voice in Smash Bros. was a welcome change after that awful 4Kids dub version, to the point where it's become the main speaking voice that plays in my head whenever I imagine him saying anything.
>How would you even fuck an orb?
A legitimate inquiry, even I'm not sure how you'd go about doing that shit. Or if they even have genitals to begin with. I just want to hug and cuddle him all day like the massive faggot I am.
I can pin down the development of two as the direct impact of cartoons
>Poison Ivy (also mind-control fetish)
>The Canker Sisters
Masochism and the Occult:
I don't actually condemn the humor. I think that she's just not that great a writer, which is passable for pure joke comics making fun of stuff we know, but doesn't cut it when you have to tell jokes and a real story to keep readers interested.
She needs a writing partner.
It's more damning for an artist to spend 100s of pages drawing a fetish comic and never improving, though not sure I could imagine Carnivores with "good" art.
If they're hypocrites about it, yes. Linkara for example was mocked for trying to deny that his ex was a tranny but then when he was found out to like chicks with dicks it just made that denial all the more funny.
Also I wouldn't be too fucked. My fetish actually lowers my standards and I could say I'm just "being progressive."
The only thing that might pop up are health concerns, which are completely viable and something I worry about too.
Low self esteem, the absence of a father figure and an unstable mother.
Oh, my biggest fetish is futanari by the way, but just about all of them can be traced back to those three factors.
What do you mean? Biggest character, or? That would currently be Behemoth, seen on this chart.
Also to anyone that still cares here's an update where I make a rare attempt at rendering
That time I hung out with those other kids at summer camp who liked to pretend to have sex with one another, which I went along with just for the sake of making friends.
I've never told anyone and I curse the fact that it happened every single day. I'd never even think to tell anyone because I'd be too goddamn embarrassed and nobody would take me seriously, even though talking about it would probably help me clear up my mind a lot.
I feel like I'd probably be okay. I'd just shrug it off, be honest with the people who ask me about it, take any sort of mockery in stride and eventually people will just kinda forget about it.
All you have to do is avoid the Streisand Effect.
How the fuck is this thread still even active? Do janitors/mods/unpaid interns even give a shit about this board?
I thought smellerbee was a boy when I watched the show in middle school. I developed a really strong crush on "him" then I stumbled upon porn. Now I have a huge cuntboy fetish which is pretty weird as I'm otherwise a straight girl and not interested in women at all, yet I crave pussy.
Honestly this is probably the closest thing to the "fetish is something you can't orgasm without" definition that I get. It's not just that people in porn need to be really enjoying themselves, I'm a selfless lover to a fault. It's not healthy to treat sex like a game where you win when your partner gets off 3x more than you.
Blog threads do really well on /co/
It's from a Shel Silverstein poem about being eaten by a snake.
Oh. I guess I'm in too deep to notice
I doubt Silverstein would mind someone using it to get their rocks off, what with his pre-children's work.
Criticized? not usually, unless they're being hypocritical in some way. (and for reference, if they're genuinely regretting it - i.e. if dobson had a more genuine character switch towards feminist ideas instead of just bandwagon jumping - it would be somewhat unfair to use his past, regretted actions against him. but he hasn't)
If they're just an ass, like Dobson is, mocking them's also fine, and even if they aren't a few non-hostile jokes about it are fine.
They probably wouldn't be surprised, but it would expose me as a liar and I'd piss a few people off when explaining why I lied (because I don't believe it's a good idea to make your fetishes public, but 99% of people with similar interests do.)
A lot of them are well-paid engineer/programmer/doctor types.
It's why I'm not a furry, the kind of personality types most furries have mesh really badly with mine, so even though on the surface they appear to have similar interests they're never actually enjoyable to speak with.
Reading too many of my parents' parenting guides when I was a teeny little thing can probably indirectly account for my watersports, giant, and bondage fetishes - through the potty training, playing with your kid, and swaddling articles.
Fuck if I know where my robot and/or construction equipment fetish came from though.
Nope. I had a bucket of Matchbox cars, but I was never really into construction work or robots.
Most I can remember is seeing something like pic related on the news when I was like 8-9 and all I could think of was plastering myself against it.
>Honest question, why do furries have so much fucking money to commission shit?
Imagine you have a fetish that paralyzes your capable to make a human sexual relation, but you are otherwise functional and can hold down a job.
Your choices are either to go insane and pursue your unrealistic fantasy, or to focus on your work life and try to accomplish something in life not sex related. Without a girlfriend or crippling social retardation (because those are filtered out by likely pursuing the fetish) you progress in the work ladder because you really have nothing keeping you back. If people find out, you have even more incentive to leave your local area, which opens you up to better job opportunities.
I'd be willing to wager /d/ has a lot of really well off people with decent jobs. You hear a lot about CEO's and politicians and well connected people being into weird shit. People who would otherwise spend their time forming actual relationships have less time to spend getting that level of dedication to their jobs.
Both furries I've known have had longer and happier relationships than I have. One is married. Only one of these couples are gay.
Maybe I found the socially well adjusted furs in my gaming sphere?
shit, all art around shota art is done by women.
I guess it's just the act of exposing someone to their limit that gets me off.
You can blame every cartoon ever for that one.
I just want to be a qt trap but I wound up with a pig disgusting vagoo instead
One of the reasons it got brought up so much with Dobson was that he can't shut up about how "sexualized" video game women like Samus were. While I believe people can move on and change over time, if you have a history of drawing anime characters inflating and begging for their lives before getting popped with a needle, don't try to make a carreer out of criticizing Nintendo for making Samus' butt too big.
That, and he was a popular target, so people used everything against him that they found.
i dont know whats more pathetic
having a weird fetish or having a mindset that your fetish is this life-ruining secret that, under any circumstances, should never be found out
By your audience, your employer, colleagues etc?
Even if you shouldn't be judged for what you fap to if it's considered weird like women pulling some nasty ass farts people will still judge you for it.
>"You're colluding when you date Mako."
>Colluding: To act together, often in secret, to achieve an illegal or improper purpose.
Never watched it, what does this mean?
I'm pretty sure she killed herself.
>artist goes legit and tries to be family friendly and clean
>but they dont change their handle/username at all
>people google their name and see their furraffinity/R34/everything
Every artist draws fetish porn. If you're an artist trying to get work with other artists, none of them will care that you've drawn porn because they do too. Most people look at porn and everyone has their own fetishes. None of this is something to criticize someone over, and nobody should care.
The problem arises when artists treat their own art as morally or technically superior to others simply because they drew it. People who espouse anti-sexual imagery feminism while drawing fetish porn and see other artists's who do fetish porn as deserving criticizing but not themselves. People who make no effort to improve their artwork while criticizing far superior art for stylistic differences while getting upset whenever anyone criticizes them. Those people need criticism, not because of what they've drawn, but because they're being hypocrites.
Abso-fuckin-lutely. They should be criticized, lambasted, and ostracized from their peers and humiliated before the entire spectrum of internet users. Bonus points if their artwork ends up on some one-off expose on a daytime news channel as an example of what fucked up minds dwell on the internet.
How they react to this shall prove satisfying enough: If they're a person of good moral character, they'll accept the ridicule and shame and continue on with their current lives like it was nothing. If they can't handle it, they'll make an ass out of themselves and prove they're not to be trusted with anything normal; this is, unfortunately, the kneejerk mass majority reaction to such an incident.