>Season 1: Standard above-average kid's show
>Season 2: Witty kid's show with fun plots and good characters, some meta humor and world building
>Season 3: Like season 2, but a bit more experimental. At points it seems like it's struggling to stay fresh
>Season 4: A fever dream, it's like the writers all got high on LSD then through any little thought they had into the show
I really wish this show got just one more season
Instead of another season, I'd have rather seen the show just switch over to occasional specials. Like a Halloween and Christmas episode every year with the occasional extended episode. If nothing else, that would have let them finish out the Star Wars movies.
Swampy and Dan are working on a new show so that'd allow them to work on both and those specials tended to be the best episodes over the last few seasons anyway.
Doof 101 was probably proof of concept that a high school setting would work rather than a Doof based spinoff. Though it wouldn't surprise me if they use Heinz in it; worrying about the voice actor isn't an issue when the character is voiced by a show runner.
Might be why they gave Vanessa a reason not to be at Danville High School in the final episode along with adding some more teenage characters in Night of the Living Pharmacist.
Ginger was much better after her VA was replaced in season 4.
Adyson: I know! We can get stung by radioactive bees and gain bee-themed superpowers!
Holly: Um, we don't have access to radioactive bees.
Ginger: Yeah... THAT'S what's wrong with that plan.
>tfw no Stacy episode
never heard a peep about this show before, what do we know about it?
This is the only image of the girl we've got so far.
No, four seasons should be the rule of all animation. Writers quit, or artist have some breakdown and stop.
>It really was a fun ride though.
Loved it right till the end, but it was strange how many plotlines got started right near the end; Stacy finding out about Perry, AT2D episode, Doof's relationship with his parents etc.
At least Doof and his pop's were resolved.
Once in a while during shenanigans they'll sneak in educational memes and kids learn things.
>Like subliminal lesbian tention.
The future one should've been the final episode.
>No future Stacy and Jenny.
It's not been confirmed by Dan or Swampy but Weird Al is apparently voicing the main character since he included Milo in a collage of characters he's played.
I understand what they were going for in just having it be the primary cast but it felt underwhelming compared to Rollercoaster: The Musical and Summer Belongs to You, which were probably written with being potential series finales.
I also think it undermined Vanessa's character development by having her suddenly go back on being okay with Heinz being evil
>I also think it undermined Vanessa's character development by having her suddenly go back on being okay with Heinz being evil
Well she did seem to have a better understanding of him and saw that villainy wasn't really for him.
>It's not been confirmed by Dan or Swampy but Weird Al is apparently voicing the main character since he included Milo in a collage of characters he's played.
Link or it didn't happen. Weird Al's busy with his music career.
It was weird, since there was an episode about how he's a failure at being good.
Here's the image. The tweet itself was back in October or so.
I think I'm going to miss those Stacy-Candace interactions as much as anything else about that show.
Hu and Tisdale really worked well as a combination.
Candace is still my favorite character in the main cast.
I think it was a (probably unintentional) kind of fitting end given it's themes even if it wasn't as bombastic as some of the specials.
When you think about it, the entire episode is basically a take on the general mechanics of the show (Candance tries to bust the boys / Doof builds an Inator and Perry stops him.) taken to it's sort-of-meta extreme: A continuous loop of the same structure over and over again which eventually threatens everything if not stopped.
They probably weren't even trying that and just wanted to do a groundhog day episode, but it sure ends up having some meaning behind it.
It's educational because they don't talk down to kids. They use a lot of big vocabulary words and explain a lot of obscure concepts like reverse-engineering, triangulation, cultural stuff...
But not as a lesson, just in conversation
It wasn't the strongest note to leave off on but there was something nicely familiar about it. Great songs too.
Given that we had the movie, Summer Belongs to You and the Rollercoaster musical all be big celebrations of the show, I didn't mind the quiet ending so much.
What does /co/ think of Doofenshirtz?
I find him funny and endearingly pathetic, and also very tuned in to cliche's but completely oblivious to common sense.
You can put him in any situation and he'll still make me laugh.
I think he's one of the funniest animated characters of the last 20 years.
Doof is great. It's great anytime he's on screen. I really wish they hadn't stopped making Doof's Daily Dirt. It's great to watch him fail but it's also great to see things go his way like his relationship with his daughter improve.
i was amazed disney let them do something like that in the first place, something so risky.. something that referenced other things they didn't own..
as it is, they redid one of the videos after reading a girl's comment in the video that had her real name.
and now they have moved it entirely off of youtube onto disney video or whatever
for me it was all about him not recognizing perry without his hat. Perry has to be the only superhero in history whose secret identity is only used with his nemesis
i also loved the weird rambles he would go on
>so i realized i needed to fight fire with fire
>and by 'fire' I mean perry the platypus
>and by 'fire' I ALSO mean perry the platypus
>I came up with it while I was on fire
jokes like that are why being smart sucks. you know the reason these things don't make sense, and it's always "because that has changed since the original version of it, where it made sense"
Always a great chuckle.
>Remember the good times also.
Wouldn't have worked well. But what if the show's characters where designed differently, would it have still been as popular?
Phineas and Ferb tend to be really creepy if you try to translate their features into more realistic forms.
The simplicity of their designs probably did have a lot to do with endearing them with kids though; Phineas and Ferb were intentionally designed that they'd be easy for kids to draw.
Fox had that countdown a while back that put Phineas and Ferb into the top thirty but nobody else from the show. Heinz and Candace had a lot better claim on making that list than either of the boys.
I don't think they are even in the top ten funniest characters of this show, let alone of all time.
I see your point. Dumb down for the kiddies I guess in every way.
let's put it this way
i wouldn't have waited YEARS to watch this if it had had a better art style (and a less ridiculous name)
i didnt even give it a goddamn chance til I saw /co/ liked it and I was like oh fine, there's a marathon.. i'll give it a shot
i couldnt believe how wrong I was.
I'll never be able to understand those horrifying eyes; sure, the full suits are kinda creepy but nowhere near as bad as the goggle eyes. Especially seeing as how they were perfectly content to just have people in costumes for things like the parades.
If it makes you feel any better they're all in full suits.
A lot of girls her age and even older women have that same physique though. It's probably less that she's flat and more that body style is just an average build while characters like Vanessa and Linda are just ridiculously stacked.
I never much cared for Candace, so this was kind of frustrating for me, especially since I really think they could have done more with Phineas and Ferb themselves.
Not even the finale was about them and it would have been the last time we ever saw them, which was irritating.
at first she was just a stock standard shitty teen girl
but then she grew on me a bit. her flaws remained but she became more of a real person. and she managed to learn her lesson most of the time
really if stacy had been a better influence on her instead of reinforcing the dumbass teen girl stereotype behavior, she probably couldve been a really cool person
as for p+f, they're more like props.
>a stock standard shitty teen girl
That's part of it, yeah. Plus it felt like the more the show went on the shittier her treatment of the boys got. Like she'd throw them under the bus after they do something positive for her or she'd go out of her way to yell at them before they even did anything. I just didn't find her fun to watch.
The boys being props sucked because some of my favorite episodes have them actually DOING things. Episodes like I Brobot and I Want My Mummy showed them being funny enough on their own without having to depend on Buford and Baljeet as comic relief, plus the Movie and specials had some really great character beats for Phineas, so why not keep doing shit like that?
Potato, Pototo Tomato, Tomoto...
I guess I never felt like the boys really had much to explore, but I'm glad you enjoyed bits of it, even if it wasn't enough for you. I enjoyed the main characters being the least interesting people, because I usually do. I'm sick of being told 'here, identify with this character, he's the main one!' when I'm always more of a side-character. This show just invites you to take a ride with them like you were one of their friends.
I can imagine the beautiful sounds of the children's screams as they are forced to see these traumatizing forms..lols. Maybe just plan live actors and children actors would've worked better?
Vanessa's new room in the last episode.
A drawfag made this for me almost five years ago. Wonder where he is now?
Why is it that no matter what clothing you put Candace in, it always looks better than her default outfit?
Her standard outfit isn't that great and she wears it a lot.
Her outfit looks better on other people.
idem, i watch the show most of time for her. is the most fun and interesting character.
black suit her
Well it was pretty popular, I mean it ran for several years and Disney seemed happy to dish out the merch.
That being said it never got a fandom following like Adventure Time or Gravity Falls, maybe for the lack of ongoing story arcs.
I don't think it was that badly affected by the art style, though personally I don't consider it's look to be a strong point.
I'm still amazed that they've actually managed to make an enjoyable PnF/Star Wars crossover. I mean, take the concept alone. It sounds like it's doomed to fail.
Yeah, either this or the Night of the living pharmacists was my favourite of the specials.
Wish they could to the rest of the films.
The "Time Bogoolo" version was better designed but had a huge chin sadly.
>Now Candace in a grass skirt.
Now we see why.
They're tied up at the moment
Looking back, I really enjoyed 2D dimension Doofenshmirtz. It's fun to have a version of Doof who is a genuine over threat to the entire cast.
I was glad he was in that special but it's a pity he spent most of it in a docile state. Wish they'd made more.
What about that "Return to the 2D Universe" episode?
The actors did a great job with what they had, considering they can't talk (well, Phineas did. Ferb had it made since he already doesn't talk).
Phineas was very energetic and moved a lot, while Ferb was more stiff and reserved.
I went in with my own brother, so it was us brothers with them brothers. What ended up happening was almost a fight to mug the camera. It was hilarious. They jumped in front of us and did a dynamic pose, then we jumped out behind them and photobombed them, etc, great shit.
You know how the costumed characters have this sort of sign language type of deal to direct each other while they're in costume? Ferb started doing it to us and Phineas while we were trying to set up another pose and he had an idea of how it should go. Phineas got it, but me and my brother had no clue what he was trying to tell us. Either way, we pulled it off.
I really hope they're there next time we go. The show ending doesn't leave me with much hope, but you never know.
We take the T that's buried deep in Doofenschmirtz
The E from Karen the Cat
Harry's got an A
And Maggie's got an M
So we're a team my friends that's that
I expected there to be more songs but I was content with the one they gave us.
She was a one shot.
>A mighty fine arse that one..
They dynamic her in that episode just for that.
>No dynamic Stacy.
A lot of effort seems to go into Phineas and Ferb even outside the show.
I remember the comics and radio appearances being a pretty faithful representation of the show.
Aren't they releasing a new game soon? Hopefully they won't phase it out too quickly.
Yes, yes I did.
Looks like Gretchen & Ginger have followed Katie's example and don't wear socks.
Nope, you get to take your pick if you get here quick enough..
Your quite welcomed anon. Going to hit the gym and spar with darq. cheers
I think it heavily helped that it was a side-story sort of deal rather than the usual "Let's just replace the characters of the movie with our cast" that every parody of Star Wars did.
It gave you more moments of characters reacting to parts of the film rather than just a parody version of the scene itself.
>gave my girlfriend a stuffed Perry during our Senior year
>realize how long ago this show aired
>That being said it never got a fandom following like Adventure Time or Gravity Falls, maybe for the lack of ongoing story arcs.
It was half because of the lack of continuity, and half because the characters' charm comes from their witty writing rather than because you could write fanfiction about them. You don't get that huge kind of fan following without fanfiction.
I phrased that badly. What I meant was that the characters aren't relatable. You can like them a whole lot, but they really are cartoon characters rather than animated humans with realistic personalities and responses.
>That being said it never got a fandom following like Adventure Time or Gravity Falls, maybe for the lack of ongoing story arcs.
On /co/ anyway; until scheduling shenanigans and the shift to a lesser channel hit, Phineas and Ferb's ratings were always higher than either of those shows.
Adventure Time had ratings that were only around half of what Phineas and Ferb was drawing in Season 2 when it was getting consistent airdates and promotion.
Gravity Falls was usually closer in the ratings but the highest rated episode of it was about what Phineas and Ferb was drawing at its height. On the whole, its ratings were lower.
Yeah a show like Dexter's Lab was useless for fanfiction because the characters are surreal caricatures. The Simpsons, Hey Arnold, King of the Hill all have relatable characters that experience human emotions hence you could actually write fanfics about them.
Source artist, and someone bloody color this piece already!?
Is that Toongroner?
These two couldn't have been friends for nothing..
>So no one's with me on the subliminal lesbian tension?
yes. I found a colored version of a deviantart user.
Ah, It's great to have you back.
All she want was some intimate time with Candace.
The boys are dead in that reality..
Stacy wanted some of that Candy.
Lewd only = Nude and penetration.
Indeed, sadly they didn't need the Korra ending for this one.
Again, who is the drawfriend of this and why hasn't it been colored?
If Jeremy wasn't involved I could see these two getting together when they're older.
Nice art, to bad it's not colored.
She'll never get to lick that red flavored Candy, and will have to settle with a Coltrain pounding.
>At least in that universe...Wink.
I dunno, Jeremy seems loving enough and Stacy seems Sis-tier enough to be open to threesomes.
It was amazing for that. Also kind of amazing and funny how the cartoon fleshed out the Empire more as people than the original A New Hope did.
>tfw Disney will never create a new Kinect Galactic Dance-off game with a special level where you go against Candace, Beuford, and Baljeet doing "In the Empire"
Nah, I prefer the original holy trinity with the subtle lesbian undertones.
>In season one I could've sworn Jenny was crushing on Candace always calling her Candy..
This guy is currently plowing Stacy at the moment.
He was in Jeremy's Band and his best friend I believe..
Im getting real sick of shows teasing me with Kelly Hu and then not given us a sufficient dose of Kelly Hu
It's more because of her live success that now she doesn't have much time for V.A.'ing, hince the reason Stacy became so rare in later seasons.
>I'm happy for her, honest.
Blight, you beat me to it!
I have to thank you gents, this thread was the most relaxing thing I did all morning, no trolls, insults or bickering.
Just a civil thread about nostalgia..Thank you Anons.
Zukicure's Pixiv has stuff that's not on Tumblr for whatever reason.
And this...Song...Poor Doof.
And Finally, let not forget our Disco Golfing Queen.
Well, that's it for my nostalgia. Thanks for the thread. Cheers
I found it interesting that despite nearly every episode having the same basic formula, each episode always felt like it had its own identity anyhow.
Not many formulaic shows manage that, tbqh.
>Al played Banana Man in AT
>didn't realize and completely forgot 99% of what that character even fucking did
>mfw fucking ponies utilized him better then AT
That show has fallen so far. Had Al guest starred in like Season 2 it would've been legendary...
I always thought that as the show progressed it was more about Candance than the main duo
how did the show end btw
It ended quietly, but still entertaining.
If the mods like it enough they let it stay up, or try D.A.
I forgot really.
In one of the episodes Phineas was saying "And we will spread this (invention) across the entire Tri-State Area!!" just like Doofenshmirtz.
And at the end of that episode Perry sneezed and he went "Bless youuu Perry the Platypus!!" just like Doofenshmirtz
And Doofenshmirtz once dated Linda.
They both have a knack for inventing. They both have pointy noises.
They both have similar hairstyles.
It can happen.
>They both have a knack for inventing.
When does Phineas invent anything? That's all Ferb. Phineas is just the "idea guy". He's like Steve Jobs, does none of the work but gets most of the credit.
Nickelodeon has a long history of not picking up shows that have ended up being major hits on other channels. It really makes you wonder about how incompetent their upper management is.
It was but the links to it seem to be broken; I'm pretty sure they've mentioned it on Twitter as well. Apparently the whole reason they made that flashback with him dating Linda is to address that popular fan theory and to show that they never had a real relationship.
A lot of it was probably just being content with what they had and never considering what would happen when people got tired of Spongebob.
Even after the flashback episode where they dated you could see parallels with Phineas and Doofenshmirtz though. The way they interact in the Across the 2nd Dimension movie shows it too
Well, I friendship it
hero/villain bromances are the best
Was it ever revealed why Katie refused to wear socks?
Nope, it was just for the benefit of the fandom feet fetish.
And that's page 10...thanks MOD's.
>It was a great ride.
>are we autistic 14-year-old girls now?
Well Disney was apparently.
It was a promo/ Music Video Mashup that aired on the Disney Channel.
Maybe one day Disney will feel degenerate enough to make one for Wander/Hater too.
I want to say I friend-ship it as bromance, but 'bromance' feels like too week a word.
They're close friends, nemeses, family, and to quote Dan Povenmire; "They’re the most important person in each other’s life.”
But there's no way in hell am I shipping a man and a platypus so I don't know how to describe it.
They're basically a couple without the romance.
Stacy was great in that!
Well, at least she and Jenny were in the last scene when Linda invited everyone in for pie.
>But yes, Stacy did het closer.
Seriously, what's with this show and it's use of delicious brown girls as background characters
Some of my favourite moments in Phineas and Ferb is when Doof ends up working with/for other villains.
He's such a great foil.
And what's wrong with hula skirts?
Wished Stacy and Jenny were involved.
>And now more of Stacy's cousins.
Variety is the spice of life.
They have joint custody. Despite being divorced they don't seem to have any animosity towards one another. Also I don't think Doof gets her that long.
Bonnie is just tanned and not actually brown.
I'm not sure what ethnicity Dana is supposed to be actually. Probably Asian since the Hiranos are roughly the same shade.
At the start of the summer, it looks like she just spends certain weekends and days with Heinz but after Mary McGuffin, it seems like she's actively choosing to spend more time with him.
We pull in money, recruits, just to combat OWCA. Rubbing our noses in bloody battlefield dirt. All for revenge.
When your father is supreme leader you can put all kinds of stupid shit in your hair.