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The Empire is accepting of all Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy

>Star Wars: Uprising: (/swr/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg

>Star Wars: Commander: (/swr/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD2JkBxIJo

>Canon Guide: (Timeline coming soon)
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org

>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya (embed)
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Pick a Species
Pick a Lightsaber
Pick a Lightsaber Form
Pick a Waifu
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SOON!!!
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>>78650736
Melitto
Something simple and green
Whatever Dooku used
No
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>>78650748
I found it really out of place and dragged out the middle of the movie, but some people really dig Star Wars Ben-Hur. To each their own, right?
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What is /swr/s opinion on Robot Chicken SW?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbURjXZAwsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syMtfZKRIhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_Lp-35dEg
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>>78650822
Some are shit.

Some are fun if your a hardcore fan (The stuff with Dengar for example)

Some are god tier (Palpatine getting Vaders Phone call)
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>>78650736
Togruta
Orange Blade
Makashi
Shaak Ti

>>78650822
Always had a soft spot for Force Ghost Jar Jar
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>>78650813
It might be filler but its fun filler (Some thing star wars isn't accustomed to)

I love that it was basically right out of a video game.

Get stuck in a place
Talk to NPCs
meet new Character
Do a Side Quest
New character joins the part
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>>78650790
Can't say i was expecting such a big reaction. Regardless of what tou can think about the movie, its true that TFA has recover the hope of a lot of fans and in the way making new ones. We are enetering a new Era with and just by seeing how well the movie did and that the franchise is now of Disney. We can expect to have new Star Wars movies forever
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Maz Hijinks from the last thread.

>Maz somehow get's that rekted Star Destroyer on Jakku working again.
>She retrofits the entire cruiser into a Bar/ Space Hotel.
>Half the clients come for the "Tentacles"
>Chewie is Maz's assistant, he's still the muscle, but teaches her to make traditional Kashyyk drinks.
>Finn, Poe and Rey always find time to visit as well.
>C-3PO and R2-D2 are the management staff
>BB-8 is popular with the kids.
>Finn sometimes feels uncomfortable while having a drink.
>Little does he know that a certain First Order Trooper is sitting in the back, straining, and trying not to scream.

I want a running gag in the sequels where Finn is constantly harassed by the Trooper coming in out of nowhere at the most random of times.

I also wait for the inevitable Disney cash in by creating an elaborate backstory around TR-8R and how he was actually Finn's Childhood friend.
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>>78650841
I wonder what will happen to Chewie now. Hanging out with Rey and Luke? Or will he finally shack up with his girlfriend Maz?
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>>78650736
Devaronian
Curved Lightsaber with a Purple blade
Ataru
Barris Ofee
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>>78650930
I think the big reason why this movie succeed was the massive advertising campaign. I've never seen it so large even with Marvel movies. Star Wars is EVERYWHERE.

Go to supermarket its there, Ross its there on the bus, on the tv commercials in fucking Burlington coat factory
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>>78650790
>mfw TFA becomes the highest grossing movie of all time.
>mfw Disney will never stop creating Star Wars Movie
>mfw everything from the Old Republic to The New Jedi Order is imminent.
>mfw The EU is retroactively remade as literally dozens of movies in the next few years.

I'm cumming.
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>>78651010
I assume he'll be hanging out with Rey now, since she's the only other person who knows the Falcon well enough.

Though if we're being fair, Chewie should be the new captain of the Falcon and Rey the co-pilot.
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>>78650736
Zabrak
Pic Related
Makashi for life
Her High Duchess of Mandalore, Satine Kryze
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>>78651025

This was nothing new to older fans. Kites, bedsheets, shampoo, Star Wars devours all when there's a new one.
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>>78650736
Nautolen
Double bladed
Reverse grip
Ayylmao Secura
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have you ever played the star wars second life rp?

it was good around 2008
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>>78651082
He seems to prefer leaving the flying up to others, although he has no problems with it. Just grabbing Threepio and off to rescue Luke from a steroid abusing Hutt in the comics...

Though thinking about it, this wouldn't be a too terrible way to get Lando back into the movies.
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>>78651130
>Double bladed
>Reverse grip

How?
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>>78650736
>Species - Chiss (Thrawn is amazing)
>Saber - Double-Bladed Orange
>Form V - Djem So
>Waifu - None
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"Kylo have you ever heard the tale of Darth Sidious the blind?"
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>>78650977

>In a Star Destroyer
>Not a refurbished Mon Calamari Star Cruiser
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Why are astromech droids so sassy?
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>>78650790
I think it'll settle between Titanic and Avatar.

If it was to beat Avatar it would have to be on the track to 3 billion and I just don't see that happening
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>>78650736
Zabrak
Saberstaff
Ataru
Rebels Ashoka
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>>78650977
>Half the clients come for the "Tentacles"
Damn, who knew Star Wars was full of tentaclefags, but then again that's probably the most common and vanilla kink in that universe.

>the waiters and waitresses dress in the imperial uniforms left behind to keep the bar in-theme
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>>78651174
Not anon, but pole positioned behind you?
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>>78651025
Uh, TPM had a fuck-huge advertising campaign too.

I even have a Darth Maul towel from when it was coming out. I thought it was the coolest shit when I was 9. (Of course he turned out to be lame so I didn't use it as much)
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>>78650977
>"Tentacles"
what kind of tentacles?
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>>78651125
True. Hell, Star Wars ended up marketing products outside the toy aisles long before TFA was announced. I'm talking about the gulf between the Prequels and the Sequels. TCWs, both movie and TV show no doubt helped, but it was usually classic stuff like Darth Vader and Stormtrooper helmet mugs and blanket sets, stuff like that. It's just really exploded since then but something about Star Wars is that it never quite goes away.
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>>78651207
Compensation for difficulties in being understood?
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>>78651183
"Darth Sidious was so blind he could use the mystical energies of the Force (No midichlorians, Disney doesn't go there anymore) to create....life"
"What happened to him?"
"Well that's why we called him blind. He got shocked with his own lightning and thrown down a shaft"
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>>78651258
The fun kind of course, from several different places, some are Umbaran tentacle plants, Rathars, clean diagogas. The works.
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These making of videos from the prequels are pretty fascinating to watch. Any drawfriend or someone interested in movies may find them particularly neat.
Art and CGI effects:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmfqMg9lbTA
Sets and World building:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlzguSk9H8Q
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>>78651239
Risky as shit. Most Force Sensitives have to train to properly use a Light Saber.

Double-Bladed sabers are some truly next-level shit. You need god-tier reflexes and precog to even use one at all, much less efficiently.

>>78651125
Star Wars always prides itself on it's merchandise. Being under Disney's wing means that marketing and merchandising will only intensify.

All I really want is for Disney to be reasonable enough to greenlight better video game projects once EA's license runs out (I don't trust them after Battlefront)
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>>78651075
Just see how much money this movie is doing. Disney is a company whith the probabilities of dying in the future almost zero. And with the Star Wars franchise in his power you can bet they will still make Star Wars till the day we all die and beyond. Prequels, Sequels' EU whatever Star Wars is big enough to make 100 movies and more. And it will probably still sell because its fucking Star Wars so we are in for a never ending ride.
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>>78651305
Acceptable.
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>>78650736
>pantoran
>yellow
>form 3
>miraj scintel
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I am really on the fence with this Star Wars movie every year thing

If they do something like do their trilogy then take a break and fill the spaces with Anthologies then sure whatever. Of course it will depend on how Rogue One is first

However if they immediately go into the next sequel trilogy after IX, it's going to get retarded
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>>78651375
Oh my god that's amazing yes

>Double tap for good measure
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Is jedi academy worth getting for like 3 bucks?
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>>78651348
This is actually happening. The strange thing is, I don't want to get off of Disney's wild ride.

The Old Republic was made for cinema though. Seeing Jedi and Sith drop down left and right can tug on your heartstrings if done well enough.

Also, I'd like to see multiple director's interpretations on the Franchise. Noir Bounty Hunter films, Saving Private Mando, etc.

Different movies, with different tones and styles of directing. We're living in the platinum age of Star Wars, get ready.

I want Finn to be a Mandalorian because fuck it. Rey's the Jedi, Poe's the pilot, haul Finn's ass to a bunch of hiding Mandos to train his ass, turn him into a goddamn warrior.
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>>78650736
Human
Luke's green lightsaber
Shii-cho
Pic related.
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>>78651348
>Well never get the Live action TV series Starring boba fett George wanted to do

>Adult oriented star wars stories will be rare if we get them at all

Whats the point
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>>78651375
Wow, even the official spin off hate Jar Jar?
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>>78651375
FUCK JARJAR this is the greatest thing I've ever seen

is it canon????
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>>78651348
Star Wars is the new MCU, this is not a good thing.
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>>78651442
>No Black Jedi
>Have a Hard ass nigga Mando instead

I can live with this
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>>78651375
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>>78651337
Preaching to the choir on the first point. Been receiving bo-staff training for close to two years, and I still can't wield it w/o brushing something on me.
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>>78651375
This is too good for him, Jar Jar needs to be killed slowly, his fingernails need to be slowly pulled off and his feet slowly fed into a wood shipper
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>>78651550
18 + board kid
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>>78651492
Besides, nothing says Mando's can't use Lightsabers. Hell, Boba Fett briefly did in the EU.

Finn himself is probably Force-Sensitive, but nowhere on the level of Rey and Luke. He'd probably use it more in line with the average person: breaking locks, confusing people, lifting shit, etc.

I think Finn as a Mando brings a new element of intrigue and uniqueness to the character. It differentiates him from literally every other main character in the films and makes him into someone capable of giving Rey support on the ground.

>>78651537
When I did martial arts, the Bo-Staff was my favorite weapon. I too can attest to all the bruises gained while learning to use that shit. Where did I put that thing anyway?
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>>78651569
Fuck you, I'm 25
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>>78651375
It's almost been 20 years, let it go with the Jar Jar hate. Star Wars has bigger concerns than a character that got slowly phased out.

>>78651442
When you say "Old Republic" what do you mean? Do you want an original Old Republic or based on KOTOR?
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>you will never get kissed by ventress while she PENETRATES you.

Why even live? THE IRONY
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>>78651123
She's already spoken for by some shit from Stewjon. I know, right?
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The Empire was right and did nothing wrong.
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>>78650790
It doesn't matter, X-Men: Apocalypse is going to destroy Star Wars's records
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>>78650736
>human
>1911 because lightsabers are gay and can't block ballistic rounds
>djibouti shooti
>that blue alien chick with the two head tentacle things for hair. she's a cutie.
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>>78651586
Then i would say grow up, but i think that would be pointless
>>78651592
This, people act like Jar Jar ruined Star Wars even though he was only in one movie

It was JJ and Disney that ruined Star Wars
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>>78651452
Superheroes movies are always shit by default
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>>78651617
Nothings touching star wars till Justice League or Infinity war p.t 2
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>>78650822
Their Best of Emperor Palpatine is the fucking best.

>Hold the elevator!
>storm trooper starts frantically hitting button
>I see you that! What's your ID number!
>It's 1143- eatmyass!
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>>78651492
YES.
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>>78651592
>When you say "Old Republic" what do you mean? Do you want an original Old Republic or based on KOTOR?

Either really. Though KotOR doesn't really lend itself to being a movie because of the variable nature of RPGs. The MC's character would have to be streamlined.

I'd prefer a few centuries later around the time of TOR (the MMO) where Jedi and Sith are still thriving, but the story is on a grander scale.

You could make the Playable classes as an enseble of Main Characters. Switching perspectives between the Jedi/Republic Troopers and the Sith/Imperial Troopers with both stories converging at the movie's climax.

Pic related. Tell me this scene wouldn't send chills down your spine in a theatre.

I just really want Darth Nox to be canon again, mainly through a film.
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>>78651600
>that clone's facial expressions
this is why we don't waifu crazy
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>>78651681
>Tell me this scene wouldn't send chills down your spine in a theatre.

Whoever storyboarded and directed that game trailer needs a shot at doing this as a full on live action movie.

I've never played a SWTOR game or the older RPG in my life and that shit NAILED star wars to me.
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>>78651600
No thanks, i prefer Shaak Ti
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>>78651617
>X-Men: Apocalypse is going to destroy Star Wars's records
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So let me get this straight, not only did Vader train his Inquisitors to use these weapons, but not once did it cross his mind in the decades they were using it that such a thing could happen, and to add to that that they should train to avoid such a thing instead of acting like showoffs?

Kanan didn't even finish his training, he's essentially a glorified Padawan and he figured this out.
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>>78651123
It's so weird.
A decade ago I'd have thought that looked cool and must have cost a fair bit.
Now, I look at it and think "I could probably get everything I need to make that at the local hardware store for £20"
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>>78651777
Vader trained them wrong, as a joke
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>>78651748
Fuck, man. All the TOR Promotional trailers are theater worthy material.

Actually, just make an entire CGI movie like the trailers. Essentially pic related.

It's easier to show insane force powers if the CGI models are the main aesthetic of the film - it doesn't feel forced.

That and Satele makes my dick diamonds. Best Star Wars Waifu.
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>>78651348
>Star Wars is no longer the modern myth but rather another tit for tat shared movie universe only concerned with OT suckling fat geek profits
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>>78651617
Just because Oscar Isaac is in it doesn't mean the SW hype for Poe will carry over that much
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>>78651777
>Kanan didn't even finish his training, he's essentially a glorified Padawan and he figured this out.

yes he also has 15 years of combat experience, AFTER he fought in a galactic spanning War.

Any way the Inquister was tired and on the ropes, and a against a edge
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>>78651337

I'm really surprised EA and Disney aren't doing TFA dlc. It's common sense and I've never seen EA pass on an opportunity like this.
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>>78651812
Can't let the lackeys surpass the master
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So when does Rebels come back? Late January, February, even later?
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>>78651777
Inquisitor are only used to hunt wayward Jedi and Padawans that escaped the purge, they aren't trained to learn the intricacies of the Sith and are only their attack dogs. The only thing they are good for is to stand around and look pretty.

"We trained them wrong, as a joke"
Emperor Palpatine
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>>78651452
>>Well never get the Live action TV series Starring boba fett George wanted to do

They're looking into doing something with those scripts and 1313

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-tv-show/
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>>78651250
>Of course he turned out to be lame so I didn't use it as much
I don't believe you.
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>>78651812
That is my favorite thing about the nature of the Inquisitors. Vader and Sheev must get a good chuckle every now and then, and I like to think they sometimes spend some time just to mess with them.
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>>78651681
>>78651748
Watching the trailers just makes me wish that SWTOR was a better game
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>>78651824
If anything, TFA was Disney's means of appeasing the "Muh OT" crowd. Or at least I hope that it was.

I want the series to branch out. EU or not, there is a shit ton of material that Disney can delve into. All of the movies will carry the Star Wars brand so they're going to break the bank at least.

>>78651847
I think it's a courtesy on their part, But I don't now why.

>>78651879
I'm interested to see where that goes.
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>>78651759
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>>78651881
No, I'm serious.
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>>78651629
>1911 because lightsabers are gay and can't block ballistic rounds
They block them find, they just can't reflect them with sabers. However it is entirely possible they can TK the bullets back in your face.
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>>78651834
It's not about him, it's about being a followup to one of the best and highest earning movies of 2014, and finally giving us what we want: McAvoy as a proper bald Professor X
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>>78651847
If EA wanted money they'd re-release the KOTOR games with all cut content restored of course.
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>>78651617
>It doesn't matter, X-Men: Apocalypse is going to destroy Star Wars's records
Do you seriously believe this?
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>>78651681
I wouldn't want the KOTOR/TOR games to be canon. I would like to see the Star Wars galaxy 1,000+ in the past looking almost alien.

I would like to see it near the end of the Sith Empire when they're beginning to fall into infighting and see the Jedi stragglers getting massing a massive counter attack. I understand this has some callbacks to the OT but I wouldn't have the Jedi looking like punks.

But I honestly wanna see massive Sith vs Jedi battles with super weapon powered kyber crystals. Like what tcw told us
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>>78651472
>Is LEGO Star Wars canon
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>>78651995
>KotOR I and II remastered.
>Restored Content Mod pre-installed for TSL
>Native mod maker and integrator
>Improved Controls
>Improved Graphics
>New voiced dialogue
>It's not real
FUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>78652017
Not him, but someone out there does. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if there was someone out there that genuinely hopes that Deadpool becomes the movie that tops them all.

On one hand, never underestimate the power of idiots. At the same time, you'll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator.
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>>78651973
I don't believe that a 9 year old thought Darth Maul wasn't cool.
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>>78652024
>I would like to see the Star Wars galaxy 1,000+ in the past looking almost alien.

Oh, you want fucking obscure? Do you know what the Je'Daii Order is?

They're the Predecessors to both the Jedi and Sith, and the group that those two would be formed from after their disbandment.

A movie about them, and their encounter with Force Hounds and the Force Sabers (Predeccessors to Lightsabers) would be great - considering what the Forcesabers did to them.
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>>78651681
I'd love a trilogy or tv series based on the 100 year darkness.
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>>78651629
>1911 because lightsabers are gay and can't block ballistic rounds

>Implying your primitive bullet won't just melt as it passes into the blade core
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>>78651592

Lighten up, I don't even hate him that much and still found it funny.
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>>78652098
I loved him.

In the previews and marketing

After the movie I was just feeling disappointed because he was dead and wasn't going to be in the rest of the movies. I remember saying to my dad "But he only had one line!"
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>>78651630
>This, people act like Jar Jar ruined Star Wars even though he was only in one movie
But he was in all the movies?

And he's the one who gave Palps the emergency powers?
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>>78652098
Just imagining the face of the kid after seeing the movie and how little screentime he got makes me laught
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>>78650977
>I also wait for the inevitable Disney cash in by creating an elaborate backstory around TR-8R and how he was actually Finn's Childhood friend.
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>>78652132
Well, I don't mean totally obscure that the average person wouldn't recognize but something visibly different but obviously star wars.

I feel like TOR and KOTOR got this all fucked up. I've honestly tripped up thinking Republic troopers were Clone Troopers. I want to see ancient Star Wars.
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>>78652233
He didn't do any thing annoying, and was completly silent in Ep 3
C-3po irritates me a shit ton more personaly
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>>78652200
One word "Lucas" mother fucking George Lucas
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>>78651824

I wish this prequel vs OT nonsense would stop, but I know I'm wasting my breath.
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>>78652276
Lucas should be executed for the crime that is the prequels
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>>78651392
I imagine they'll ride out with a bunch of Anthology/spinoff movies, and bide their time before another trilogy.

They'll probably give it a decade or so between, to build the hype.
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>>78652276
He apologized for killing Maul and brought him back into the Clone Wars.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeoGAKXsMjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwl-31afEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnEeXwaokCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM2PN2ClIM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__gLIyeQYDU
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>>78652247
FUUUUUUCK

>>78652291
Same, I loved all the 7 movies, and I'm not a whiny fuck like >>78652304


>>78652251
The Je'daii are literally as ancient as you can get. They predate all the Jedi and Sith, and by extension, their ancient Lords.

The Je'daii dealt with shit like the Rakata and Force Monsters. Literally before most galactic armies were a thing, all battles were fought with the Force and Forcesabers (again, not lightsabers)
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>>78651777
Reminder

"""""""Grand""""""" Inquisitor
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>>78651442
I want a Netflix series based on Tales of the Jedi or just about people mapping out the Hyperspace lanes
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>>78652374
>I loved all the 7 movies
Then you're not a real fan
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>>78652330
That Maul from the TCW wasn't Maul for me. The final fight against Sheev was terrible, he was crying and whinning like a bitch. And he was way to expressive for my taste
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>>78652374
>Everyone has magic katanas and is asian

I hope space Tokugawa Ieyasu won
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>>78652235
You have no idea. I was eight when TPM came out. I had Darth Maul action figures, a few of those tops trading cards, a bath towel, and even a fucking bottle of Darth Maul bubble bath. I loved the movie like every other dumb little kid, but hot damn did that disappoint me.
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>>78652419
So you just wanted a guy that looks cool and spins a lightsaber?
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>>78652416
Cry some more.
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>>78652439
Spinning's a good trick, Anon. Maybe Maul should've tried that.
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As much as i'd love to see movies/series about the ancient past Disney is all about OT pandering, look at RO, the Han Solo movie and i think there's going to be Boba one as well.
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>>78652414
Imagine a game similar to Civ of mapping out Hyperspace lanes instead. I doubt that could work as a show, even though I would watch the hell out of it.
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>>78652419
>he was crying and whinning like a bitch. And he was way to expressive for my taste
This is honestly retarded. You barley knew him from the TPM. People keep making these invincible characters with their headcanon. The only thing you knew was he was Sidious apprentice and hated Jedi. Even Vader was begging for his life near the end.

Sith are terrified of death.
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>>78652481
To be fair, Rogue One is going to be a war movie set in the Dark Times. That's pretty new for Star Wars movies. TCW had some good arcs with the troopers but I think Disney isn't banking on people being ready to understand the Umbara arc on demand.
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>>78652481
Don't we love all of that? We were askong for that since the beggining and besides it can't last forever. We'll eventually get PT or EU movies, Tv series and comics just you wait
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>>78652481
Yea but only the KOTOR audience rivals the OT crowd so that willbe their next pandering target.

I don't think we'll get a KOTOR movie though, rebels style show though? For sure.
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>>78652416
Kill your self.
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>>78652565
KotOR is a self contained story - it doesn't need a movie.

TOR spans centuries worth of conflict - something which is ripe for movies.

Plus, KotOR fanboys will bitch and whine when Revan is inevitably cast, regardless of who he/she looks like.
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>>78652304
Simply ebin
Upvoted ;)
>I've never seen a truly terrible movie:the post
Look up Salo:90 days of sodomy, then we can talk about quality.
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>>78652597
I meant the KOTOR era anon not like Disney specifically re doing the KOTOR games.

They will do something set in that era for sure.
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I don't understand the hatred of the Clone Troopers. They're literally the best soldiers in the franchise.

Plus, the first fucking episode of CGI Clone Wars showed that they can be unique characters with their own personalities and quirks - even though their technically the same person.

We need more Clone Trooper shit, fuck the Stormtroopers, and fuck the First Order troopers.
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>>78652563
>Don't we love all of that?
Sure, but I love history more.
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>>78652715
>Hatred of clones

Where? Not on this board, friend.
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>>78652715
>First Order troopers.
Should really just go back to droids at this point.
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>>78652715
Its a shame the movies never show that about the clones. They were lame till the end except for maybe cody who gave Obi Wan his lightsaber back......and then shoot him
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>>78652715
Who the fuck hates Clone Troopers?
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>>78652563
No we weren't I wanted something new, not an ANH rehash with EU ripoffs.
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>>78652715
>I don't understand the hatred of the Clone Troopers.
Even at its the height of Prequel hate i've never seen any one hate on Clone troopers man
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>>78652715
I'm not sure what your talking about I love clone troopers they were the best thing about the Clone wars animated series, it was heart wrenching when your favorite clone died. ECHOOOOO
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>>78650977
Well of you're interested grug rucka wrote a prequal to tfa called before the awakening and ot tells us quite a bit including finns 2 close friends
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>>78652715
>hatred of Clones
What? I thought it was pretty much universally agreed that Clones are great and way cooler than Stormtroopers. Hell, Kylo straight up says it in TFA!
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>>78652715
They were hated only because they were Bobba clones, stupid ideas and CGI
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>>78652780
I prefer the term Hompage, besides no one except for people here read the EU or cared about it. So it doesn't matter if they are no Canon now
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>>78652692
I'd still prefer the TOR Era.

KotOR era Jedi were more or less complacent. It wasn't until the Mandalorian Wars where Revan turned the Jedi into action heroes.

The KotOR Jedi were complacent and stagnant (much like the Prequel Era Jedi) because they had no true enemy to actively fight against - no glaring reminder of what the Jedi shouldn't succumb to.

The true Sith weren't back yet. Vitiate hadn't given the green light for the True Sith to return and invade the Republic, signaling the TOR Era.

Instead, we got Revan's feint with the Fake Sith Empire to prepare the Galaxy for the threat of war, until Malak's dumb ass fucked everything up, leading to KotOR I.

The closest thing to a profound KotOR movie would be a reimagining of KotOR II, especially seeing how they pull off something like Nihilus.
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>>78652715
I think the entire arc of story from all the soldiers of Star Wars is supposed to be an ironic one

The "drone" clones the Republic created were actually vibrant and excellent individuals.

The "real" Troopers the Empire employed were lemmings and hive minded fools
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>>78652778
>>78652748
>>78652755
>>78652778
>>78652782
>>78652787
>>78652803
>>78652814
>>78652895

Not you guys, but "casual" shitters like everyone at /tv/. Their hatred for the Prequels is so great that they even deny the redeeming aspects of the Trilogy, like the Fucking Clone Troopers.

Even true casuals get them confused, thinking that they're "Stormtrooper rip-offs" or a lame idea because they're all the same person. It irks me.

you'd be amazed by how many people actively hate them.
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>>78652843
Eh, I really hope not.

I want something other than Revan and Malak and True Sith empires.

Maybe I'm biased. Just really tired of the Revan worship.
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>>78652233
Darth jar jar would have saved us
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>>78652945
I can feel the hate flow me.
Order 66 on casuals when?
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>>78652966
.....But, I agree with you. I said I'd prefer TOR OVER KotOR.

Revan is overdone. Not bad, just overrated to an extent.

Plus I ship him with Meetra instead of Bastilla. Bastilla a shit.
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>>78652787
Isn't echo still alive?
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>>78652041
Well i meant for console since the only way to play TSL the way it was meant to be is on PC.
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>>78652986
My own father was a filthy Casual some days ago but everything changed once he saw TFA. That movie truly does miracles
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>>78653003
The Exile's canon name is stupid. Last name whatever but her first one has the same goofy quality when sounded out as Snoke, to me at least.

Also Handmaiden > Disciple, male Exile should have been canon or just take both on the ship
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>>78652132
>disney bringing back the je'daii
I'd forgive them for everything.
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I always preferred female Revan and male Exile
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>>78653099
You're right about Meetra as a name.

The only reason the Exile is canonically female is because Bioware wanted to offset Revan being canonically male. That is literally the only reason.

In fact, with Atris being a jealous lover wanting your dick, Visas Marr, Mira, and the other chicks constantly fighting for your dick, and a bunch of other dialogue clues in mind, it's pretty much heavily implied that the Exile was originally supposed to be a male.

I'm serious about Atris though, that bitch was crazy and wouldn't have turned into an insane megalomaniac if you just gave her the Force D.
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>>78653178
>wouldn't have turned into an insane megalomaniac if you just gave her the Force D.
the lack of D is definitely the reason for her insanity, not the fact that she sleeps with sith holocrons in her room
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Based George
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>>78653099
I agree the way they did it just feels to obvious.
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>>78653178
I liked Atris. She was male Anakin, someone who made horrible no good very bad decisions based purely on her love (requited for him, unrequited for her) and never ever chose to acknowledge her mistakes.

Also she had a cool look going on.

Also why was Revan decided as male? The relationship with Malak would remain with a girl and we'd have had an okay strong female character without them trying to be a Strong Female Character.
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>>78652945

You have to realize that /tv/ is retarded and contrain, and stop worrying about them. Plus it'll help stop feeding This prequel vs OT nonsense.
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>>78653235
Hi, /tv/
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>>78653145
I want that too man, but Casuals would be confused to hell and back. TOR and KotOR are fine, maybe even ancient Sith Lords.

But the minute you go back to the very fucking beginning, you're opening up a whole new can of worms.

Forcesabers, Je'daii, no Sith, and a lack of contemporary technology would confuse the fuck out of normal people:
>"Is this Star Wars?"
>"Where's Han and Chewie and the Falcon?"
>"I though Darth Vader was the last Sith?"
>"Where's Luke and Leia?"
>"Are those Jedi?"
>"Why are they calling Lightsabers 'ForceSabers'?" (Pic Related)

It goes on and on. I would want to see teh Je'daii more than anything and their eventualy split into the Jedi and Sith Orders, but Disney would go bankrupt before they drop that EU bomb on people.

Hell, Dark Empire and Sheev "Cloned OP as Shit Force Storm Spams Up the Ass" Palpatine will be canon again in a movie long before the Je'Daii Order shows up.
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>>78653235
Has anyone seen how JJ made the lightsaber battle?
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>>78651250
I have a Darth Maul towel from back then, still in good condition. I never use it because when you step out of the shower the idea of rubbing down your naked body with Maul's face is kind of...well it makes me want to go home and rethink my life, but since it's my shower I'm already home.
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>>78652966
My only issue with the Sith Empire is the emperor. The emperor should be a new Sith every other month as Darths and Lords and Apprentices each try their hand at killing the current Big Dick G, succeed, take over, and then get killed after ruling for a while.
The Sith Emperor being some fucking immortal god-being is so fucking stupid it hurts.
Or hell, just make the Sith Emperor an actual fucking character, some Julius Caesar Sith fuck who makes speeches, consults with the Council, actually DOES stuff other than just being... there.
Like, imagine a Sith Shao Kahn, how cool would that be?
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>>78653288
/tv/ was good... once. Back in the days when abatap roamed and there were no captchas
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>>78652134
I wouls lose my shit
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>>78653308
The Sheev clone idea was always stupid. I'am glad we have a new villian.
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>>78652098
"You failed me, Maul. You were supposed to be fucking badass not die like a chump and leave me in darkness."
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>>78653234
>Implying Atris doesn't use them as very painful Force Dildos.

The Dark Side makes people do crazy shit pham.

>>78653277
Huh, I never thought of it that way. Revan was a male because the default gender people assign to courageous heroes in a story is still a male. Doesn't make it "right" or "wrong", just a force of habit on BioWare's part.

That and the fact that they wanted a straight relationship between Revan and Bastilla to be canon down the line IIRC. KotOR was made before Bioware was enthralled in lustfull homosex and erotica.
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>>78653372
That looks more like something to use in the beach
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>>78653234
It's a bit of both
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>>78653364
What about it?
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>>78653364
Those sticks glow? I thought the was suppose to be CGI
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>>78653419
>KotOR was made before Bioware was enthralled in lustfull homosex and erotica.
True, but they had begun to play with the idea. Remember juhani?
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>>78652372
KOTOR had the weakest Star Wars original soundtrack, but it has good bits and pieces. Like what you posted.
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>>78653441
Look, anon, I'm not using it at the nudist beach either so drop it.
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>>78653277
>someone who made horrible no good very bad decisions based purely on her love (requited for him, unrequited for her)
i don't remember this
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>>78653486
They used glowing props so that it would cast an actual light, the blades themselves were still CGI though.

This actually isn't a new trick, they did this in AOTC for that scene where Anakin and Dooku are fighting in the dark
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>>78653235
Shit, I can remember that scene.
When JJ has the droid tangled around his leg and he's thrashing about making the droid fire and hit other droids.

...I've not seen Phantom Menace in about a decade.
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>>78651853
Just sometime in January. We don't have a date.
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>>78653364
Ah, I thought the lighting looked a bit too bright.
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>>78653387

I'll take your word for it, I've never seen it not be a shitfest.
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>>78653500
I remember always changing her model to human because the modelling for her face was terrible.

Nowadays it'd probably look much better. Wait, are you saying that Juhani was implied to be gay? Because I don't remember her ever coming onto Female Revan.

Revan x Exile/Meetra is still the OTP to end all SW OTPs
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>>78653552
>I haven't seen tpm in a decade
How? Or, what?
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>>78653408
Future Mandalorian Super Commando detected.
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>>78653560
We were told January, and online tv guides already have reruns set for this and next week. 20th and 27th are the last possible air dates this month.
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>>78653591
>Because I don't remember her ever coming onto Female Revan.
Right before you fight Bastila on the "unknown world", she long-windedly says she's in love with you. You can reciprocate or let her down gently, or I think outright deny, as is standard Bioware fare.
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>>78653572
Just like Vader in Robot Chicken. Great times, Looks like Kylo is the one talking his place
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>>78653624
>Implying Finn won't become Mandalore of all the clans at the end of Episode IX

C'mon pham.
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>>78653591
I like the cut of your jib, but what is your opinion on FemRevan/FemExile OTP?
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>>78653676
That post didn't imply any such thing, anon. Go home and rethink your life.
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>>78653308
>Forcesabers, Je'daii, no Sith, and a lack of contemporary technology would confuse the fuck out of normal people:

I'm pretty sure that's what the opening crawl is for. KotOR managed to do so well enough by beginning its own with "Four thousand years before the rise of the Galactic Empire"

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGCFGM85FFA
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>>78653657
Well Shit. Time to reinstall KotOR again for the umpteenth time.

I still can't believe that Space Lesbians is one of my many fetishes.
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>>78653572
>space-ghetti
>not penne ala arrabiata
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>>78653681
Not him but-
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>>78653681
Girls can't love girls!
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>>78653651
>its taking them this long to convince Filoni his waifu has to die
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>>78653178
>only reason the Exile is canonically female is because Bioware wanted to offset Revan being canonically male.
No it was a typo error in an essential guide to Star Wars book.
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>>78653676
Mandalorians are dumb
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>>78652715
The clones were badass
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>>78653681
Muh Dick says yes.

>>78653707
See
>>78651442
>>78651492
>>78651579
Not as a rebuttle to your statement, but just because the idea's pretty cool.

Don't be like this guy >>78653761


>>78653710
I still think casuals would be in "WTF?" mode for the movie.
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>>78653681
I desire this greatly...
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>>78652843
Bro Disney will ignore all of that. They will do something set in the star wars "past" that's all but it will be their own thing.

They'll keep some references in to please fans but Disney does not do convoluted stories. When they decide to tackle ye olde star wars times they will keep simple, "True Sith" and "Fake Sith" Empires will go out the window.
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>>78653779
No doubt, as it is a significant visual departure from what they're used to

Be then, they should really learn to get used to different things
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>>78653761
Not liking the Blue collar Space Vikings
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>>78653379
>Darths and Lords and Apprentices each try their hand at killing the current
I think it would be far more interesting to see the Sith without a hint of Rule Of Two. So when you see Palpatine and Vader in comparison you would understand why Bane created it.

Imagine a twisted version of the Jedi council. One Sith emperor and Sith ruling council but they often get into violent confrontations about how they should handle their empire. I don't mean violent like Force choking but plotting and assassinations.
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>>78653792
Yeah I bet you do.

>>78653819
I'll bet my life that everyone here would like to see at least 1 movie based on the EU.

Casuals, not so much. They either don't have the time or passion to delve deep into SW Lore like we do, so it makes sense that they'd prefer what they already know.

Granted that if Disney decides to turn this newfound Potential for Star Wars media into a massive continual OT praising marathon, then I will literally burn their offices to the ground.
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>>78653528
It works with a male, with a female the vibe I got was she was mad her Jedi sister walked away but she didn't.

The point is, whichever gender you chose as a PC she was super fucking mad at you due to a strong feeling for you. You were something specific and special to her to merit her weird hate and keeping the saber and all.
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>>78653874
I'd love a Mandalorian Wars movie. Still remains my favorite period and conflict of Star Wars history, EU or otherwise. Though the reference to the "Great Scourge of Malachor" for Kylo's lightsaber design makes me think they plan on retrofitting or remaking the KotOR games for the aesthetic they have going on now for the Old Republic
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>>78653869
Either way, The Sith value direct showings of strength and power over subterfuge and deceit. So I can't see them ordering assassinations left and right.

It wasn't until Tenebrous, Plagueis and lastly - Palpatine, did this tradition break.

The reason why the Modern Sith finally succeeded where the Ancient Sith failed is because they actually took the time to know their enemy - the Jedi instead of just wanting to bash their heads in.

That, and the modern Sith are chill as fuck. Not overly assblasted spergs like Bane
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>>78653869
When Disney delves into ye olde star wars I think this what we'll get

>show/comic based around the time of Darth Bane.

>Sith Empire exists but is a mess, get to see Bane reshape it.

>Visually more distinct than previous takes on star wars past and they will go out of their way to make the technology crude compared to "modern" star wars.

>They will completely ignore any KOTOR stuff save a few references and they will simplify the origin story of the Sith.
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>>78653940
>The reason why the Modern Sith finally succeeded where the Ancient Sith failed
Considerations Paplatine failed in the end, i really dislike the sweeping generalization hat the rule of 2 is superior to true sith empires.

His "Victory" lasted 20 years, he really didn't do any thing that more grand then Revan, or the Sith Emporer
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>>78650736
Human
Curved hilt with a yellow blade
Makashi
Hera
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>>78653779
So you basically misquoted. Okay.
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>>78653976
The Sith Emperor, I'll give you mainly because spooky force rituals that drain life force and sentient will on a planetary scale tends to give one some staying power.

Revan on the other hand was a shitty excuse for a Sith. He barely had an "empire" for 3 years before he was beaten by Bastilla's strike team and Malak's constant need to asesrt the size of his Force Dick.

The latter is justified because Revan was just trying to play the part.
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>>78653976
Did either of them successfully wipe out the Jedi order save a crazy old man, a green midget, and a farm boy?
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>>78650802
>>78650866
>>78651123
>>78651357
>>78654006

What's the Appeal of Makashi?
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>>78654045
We're all children of the west and have had the glory of fencing drilled into us from the day we first heard of Errol Flynn or saw The Princess Bride, mostly.
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>>78654045
it's slick as fuck
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>>78654028
Revan's Empire shit kicked the jedi, blowing up their major power base, and led to to the near extinction of the order when Sion and nihilus took over yes.
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>>78653681
What about FemExilexFemnihilus
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>>78654074
He waged a war that lasted three years, and yes he probably would have won had he only been contested by pure military methods he still 1) lost and 2) only was in power for a few years.

Revan is an example of someone who has everything going for them who still loses due to a miscalculation or a successful calculated risk taken by the opposition.
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>>78654068
>Best Makashi duelist gets decapitated

That's funny. That never happens to Errol Flynn.
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>>78654105
Errol Flynn doesn't usually play the villain, even if he was an irl Nazi sympathizer.
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>>78654045
It's precise as shit and smooth as hell to look at. Basically everyone likes to think that their reflexes are keen and that they never miss their mark - which is a fucking lie.

>>78654074

See >>78654095 and >>78654022

Revan didn't do shit to the Jedi Order, mainly because he wasn't trying to fucking kill them, and even he - with teh Star Forge couldn't hold off the entire fucking Republic once they knew where it was.

Nihilus and Sion were the ones who caused the great Jedi Purge, probably because the Former is a walking, talking Eldricht Abomination, and the other Literally cannot die.
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>>78654022
The Revanchist > Darth Revan > Redeemed Revan

Mandalorian Wars will always be his high point
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>>78654095
>Revan is an example of someone who has everything going for them who still loses due to a miscalculation or a successful calculated risk taken by the opposition.

Just like Sheev
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>>78653940

What era was Red Harvest in? Was Scabrous an anomaly among the sith since he used even his own students to increase his strength and means outside the force?
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>>78654105
Dooku was old, and anakin was the chosen one

and Dooku still kicked his ass like 20 times in TCW
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>>78654121
Alleged. And even then the allegations were shaky.

>>78654159
And my fault for suddenly having Loony Tunes on the brain.
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>>78654144
Potentially, but not on the level of someone like Nihilus and Sidious.

Assuming that the EU is still a thing for the moment, if you took all the Sith in history and placed them on a Planet to fight - Sidious would rape the shit out of all of them.

Before the Disney clean up, Sidious was confirmed to be the Strongest Sith in galactic history. No one comes close.

He's also a smart motherfucker to have fooled the entire fucking Galaxy and control both sides of a Galactic Scale conflict while leading his own apprentice and the entirety of the Jedi Order on a wild goose chase, while also using HIMSELF as bait.
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>>78652945
>the clone troopers in the actual movies are good

Full stop. No.

Clone troopers only became good in extended media, with first EU authors, then republic commando and TCW.

The clone troopers Lucas showed us in the movies were faceless drones with zero personality, so essentially just like almost every other person in the movies, except with less lines.

I'm going to spell it out for you here crisp and clear, so you actually get it:

>People like clone troopers NOW.
>People did NOT like clone troopers when the movies hit the cinemas

>>78653308
>casuals would be confused

From what I see in the feedback to TFA, it's more the hardcore nerds that get confused by even the most simple concepts, while casuals have zero problems with them. My dad is approaching 80 and super casual. He had zero problems following TFA. Neither did my spouse. My siblings, some of whom think sci-fi is "dumb" and daily soaps are all they watch, had zero problems following the plot either. Normal people have less problems with complex plots than you might think.

Anyway:
Both the Jedi and Sith being wrong is a side theme hinted at in TFA's different portrayal of the force. Note how now the light side is shown to be an active, tempting influence rather than the passive, harmonic field we knew from before.
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>>78650736
>Pick a Species
Ithorian
>Pick a Lightsaber
Dual wield two lightsabers, one blue and the other purple.
>Pick a Lightsaber Form
Soresu
>Pick a Waifu
Mission Vao
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>>78651209
But that's objectively wrong.
Star Wars reached 700 million in 16 days. A milestone that took Avatar more than 70 days to reach.
And that's only talking domestic numbers.
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>>78653940
>So I can't see them ordering assassinations left and right.
I was using Palpatine as a reference for killing his master. My idea of an assassination would be like poisoning or putting a fellow Sith in a situation they cannot use their full power.

>The Sith value direct showings of strength and power over
You have a point. It would be enjoyable to see Sith vs Sith in direct confrontation. I hope we get to see the Sith empire and how it collapsed. Maybe in the style of Rome or China.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms featuring Sith factions?
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>>78653572
This reminds me of the theory that Finn is actually an undercover agent who doesn't even know he's an undercover agent. Basically Kylo Ren mindfucked him, probably literally to some people, to create a "traitor" who will join the Resistance and ultimately betray them when his programming kicks in. Hux doesn't know and part of the beauty of this plan is having a Stormtrooper go traitor undermines Hux's position.

And while we're riding the Denial Train down to Bullshit Junction I've also seen a theory that Ben is NOT a traitor. He's actually under deep cover by order of Luke who is afraid Snoke, even if he isn't Sith, will eventually become one or something just as bad. Maybe not today but eventually, thus undermining the death of the Emperor. In his quarters Ren is asking for Grandpappy Anakin's help in resisting/suppressing his own Light so Snoke can't detect him. When confronting Han, Ben used his power to link with Han's mind and tell him the truth in a way the audience can't take part in. Han's offer to help was the belief that Kylo Ren killing him will not only get him in good with Snoke but erase any potential suspicion, thus Han sacrificed himself to protect his son on a incredibly dangerous mission. This leads to Snoke wanting to complete Kylo Ren's training, meaning the sacrifice apparently worked.
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>>78654203
This is the worse possible attempt I've ever seen of bait.
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>>78654203
Well, it makes sense. Why wouldn't a darksider, who's used to pain and sorry and rage, be tempted by calm and gentleness and peace?
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>>78654191

That plague is a game changer though, since it accelerates when a victim uses the force or the force is used on said victim. Plus all that hivemind shit.

It infecting sheeve and nihilus is fucking scary to me, because it comes down to it being in control of both or one of tgem actually beating its control and being in charge of every infected sith in this brawl.
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>>78654191
I have a hard time buying sideous was that much above Nihilus, The Sith Emporer and Sion
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>>78654362
Exactly! It's a welcome continuation of the themes shown previously with the force, and actually something completely new.

>>78654308
>"people aren't as dumb as I think they are" is bait

What? Is reality making you uncomfortable?
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>>78654203
>>People did NOT like clone troopers when the movies hit the cinemas

This is straight up not true, The clones were very hyped cause their cool vehicles, being jango's clones, and being "Heroic" stormtroopers

Clone wars and Republic Commando Enhance that effect and they both came out before ROTS
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>>78654219
Are you me?
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>>78654381
And why is that?
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>>78654385
I imagine that, for someone as conflicted as Ren, the ability to detach himself from his warring emotions would be a huge temptation.
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>>78654438
Sion could not be killed unless he allowed it, and in combat he was a monster.

Nhilus and The Sith Emperor weren't even human they were like eldritch abominations, that could destroy entire planets
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>>78654439
Kind of an inversion of themes really which implies the 'dark' and 'light' side aren't evil or good per se. What if it simply boils down to 'passion' and 'calm'. Having Ren go full evil to get his jedi-esque detachment would be pretty neat, especially when you flip it around and give us an emotional and passionate hero.

Even better would be if they used both aspects of the force at different stages in their development.

>>78654409
There was a large time gap between AotC (which people disliked the clones in) and the media that followed that made them more acceptable in RotS. The movie portrayal that people disliked about them didn't change however. It's the non-movie media that made clones GOOD.
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>>78654280

what a shitty theory.
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>>78654521
>There was a large time gap between AotC (which people disliked the clones in) and the media that followed that made them more acceptable in RotS. The movie portrayal that people disliked about them didn't change however. It's the non-movie media that made clones GOOD.

You are so full of it man, the clones were loved, their toys and mech flew off the shelves,
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>>78654515
Really? We're actually doing this right now?

Vitiate's power came from Ancient Sith rituals that no one had the stones to try, except him.

Nihilus, being a wound in the Force, gained a very unique variant of Force Drain.

In both cases, they were only able to DRAIN entire planets of life at most.

Palpatine Mindraped Billions of people on Byss. Used Force Lightning to char the entire surface of a planet.
And most notably, used Force Storms to literally destroy a planet, and consumer another one whole. He also used this power to teleport Luke from a Planet to another across the galaxy.

EU Palptatine is one of the strongest beings in the series, beaten only by EU Luke, The Ones, and Abeloth. No one else.
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>>78654418
Possibly, if in KotOR and/or KotOR II you've only very rarely done dark side playthroughs of either game (if at all) because you don't like doing evil playthroughs in games with morality systems there is a chance you might be me.
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>>78654561
>cool looking toys selling to pre-teens mean people liked something in a movie

Hahahahaha
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>>78654533
Which one?

The answer better be both.
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>>78654280
We harry potter now
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>>78654589
Also Lucas said himself Sidious is the strongest force user ever in Star Wars. Only Anakin/Vader could have been stronger than him but he never lived up to his full potential.

Even when Vader killed him he wasn't stronger, Vader would have lost a straight up fight, and even taking him off guard it still cost Vader his own life too.

These people need to stop doubting Sheev.
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>>78654533
Don't worry, anon, the shit train doesn't have to end there.

Luke doesn't tell anyone about Kylo Ren's mission because he learned thanks to Vader that he secrets can be ferreted out by the enemy. Rey doesn't learn until the end when she kills Kylo Ren and he imparts the truth to her in a Force vision.
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>>78654695
That probably is where people are getting the idea. Hilarious.
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>>78650977
>I want a running gag in the sequels where Finn is constantly harassed by the Trooper coming in out of nowhere at the most random of times.

That would be awful, and ruin a nice segment
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>>78654749
> There are people who don't believe in Sheev

Absolutely treasonous
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>>78654934
The guybwas defeated by fucking Mace Windu and almost by Yoda. People have every right to doubt him
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>>78654934
It really is. They think their OC fan fiction tier "wound in the force" characters are stronger than the fucking Emporer.
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>>78654998
He intentionally threw the Windu fight though
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>>78654749
Lucas says a lot of things, anon.

One day, he says no SW VII, the next day, he makes a new draft then tosses it and sells his company to Disney.

One day, he says Palpatine is the most powerful force user, the next day, he gives us Mortis, force users that could apparently destroy the entire galaxy.
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>>78655072
Allowing yourself to become horribly disfigured just to acquire a new apprentice seems very...stupid. And unSheeve-like. Not to mention allowing yourself to be seen as weak by your new apprentice. That's pretty damn unSith-like.
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>>78655079
>doesn't know that Mortis was a dream
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>>78655138
>needs to rewatch that episode
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>>78655072
He didn't. The entire point of that scene is that Mace had him and had a real chance to kill him off, but it was Anakin's intervention that ruined it. Sheev was playing up his helplessness though and exaggerating how weak he was, but that didn't mean he wasn't in a bad spot.
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>>78655167
Word of God dude.
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>>78655199
Which god?
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>>78655239
This. Lucas changes his opinion every month or so. Filoni is the more consistent one.

Sans WoG, there are multiple possible interpretations of the Mortis arc.
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>>78650681
I miss SWG, such a good game.
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>>78655269
I'm not sure Lucas changed his mind on this one. Filoni is on record as saying to the writers that the best way to conceptualize the story is like it's one big Force vision but he never actually said it was. I suspect, and cannot say since I'm not him (or his cowboy hat which is where all his power derives anyway) that he's say it doesn't really matter. Within the Force like that, real and unreal have no meaning. The Family can exist and be real but only as long as the vision does. If it had something worth learning (debatable) then it was very much real even if it was just the Force telling a fairytale.
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>>78655370
Otherwise known as the Jedi Copout Trick. Better than spinning.
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>>78654022
My friend Revan isn't canon anymore :(

>feels bad man
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>>78655370
So, word of god is essentially that it's up to the viewer to decide on a mythological type episode arc like that?

Guess sometimes even swine shit out pearls of wisdom.
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>>78655457
Fittingly enough, Lucas had the same approach to the question of whether Plagueis and/or Sidious were responsible for Anakin's birth. He said it was something viewers could consider and decide for themselves.

The EU being the EU, a few different sources tried to settle it one way or another, so a few different reference guides "confirm" that the Sith weren't involved, or "confirm" that they were. Luceno found a middle ground in the Plagueis novel by having him and Sidious cause a shift in the Force, and the Force reacts by going "fuck you, time to make someone who's going to kill your asses." So they both did and didn't have a hand in creating Anakin.
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>tumblr is losing their shit over this pic
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>>78655457
I'd say its magical realism in Star Wars, but since they all get memory wiped in the end, what's the point?
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>>78655695
>they all get memory wiped in the end
no they don't
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>>78655686
is it the atlas shrugged t-shirt or the gun?
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>>78655686
Who cares?
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>>78655695
>>78655715
The only memory wiped during Mortis is the portion of Anakin's vision.
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>>78655695
They don't. Anakin's memory of the visions of the future were erased. They remember everything else, and Yoda even asks Anakin about it in season 6.
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>>78655717
The shirt
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Do I need to have played the KOTOR games prior to reading Old Republic novels like Revan and the Darth Bane series? I've got the games and all but one of the books, but wasn't sure if it was okay to go into the books first.

I'm deciding whether to go ahead with Revan (the first OR novel I have, chronologically) or read Kenobi instead.
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>>78655847
Revan yes
Darth Bane no
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>>78655847
Why wouldn't you play KOTOR?
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>>78655871
I'm planning to in the near future, just wondered which I should get into first.
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I think KotOR II is the best Star Wars thing ever

I may even like it better than the OT

What else should I read/watch/listen to?
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>>78655368
Until that whole NGE thing.
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>>78655957
I never got to playing it, unfortunately. What exactly happened with SWG? The premise sounded pretty awesome.
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>people actually defending Jar Jar in this thread
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>>78651010
I get the feeling one of the reasons they got Gwendoline Christie was so she can play Chewie in case Mayhew can't play him anymore.
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>>78656079
Considering how ass blasted Jar Jar makes people like you? He's the best gift Lucas ever gave us.
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>Reminder that pic related plows two qt twi'ilek girls every night and you're all alone

He always wins
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>>78656079
His last appearance was good. His character has grown into something bearable, and dare I say... funny.
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>>78654236
Movie isn't even out in China yet.
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>>78656146
Do we know how wide a release it's getting in China?
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>>78656129
>plows two qt twi'ilek girls every night
>literally the cheapest hoes in the galaxy
>I'm supposed to be impressed
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>>78656129
>Even though Sebulba lost the Boonta eve podrace, the guy who beast him fell to the dark side and got horribly crippled

>Meanwhile Sebulba was still a celebrity and ended up having a happy family
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>>78656081
Gwendoline Christie isn't nearly has tall as Mayhew.
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>>78656193
>Implying you wouldn't
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>>78654621
>tfw evil playthroughs were easy until I had a very close family member die
>tfw too empathetic to purposefully inflict suffering on a personal level in a fictional world 70% of time
It's easier in morrowind or Skyrim, because the game doesn't really re-enforce you're being an evil bastard. Maybe a tad self serving at most. But a Bioware game? They spell it out: "you're morally disgusting, and these people's lives are ruined forever."
I wish I could still wheel and deal like I used to.
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Just drew a complete Boba from my free Bronzium Data Card in Galaxy of Heroes. Sick.
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>>78656240
Depends on the color.
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>>78656358
I think they're blue in the movie but one of them is red in the PC Phantom Menace game IIRC
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>>78656203
The funny thing is that Ben Quadinaros, the goofy looking dude who never made it past the starting line, ended up getting good and becoming Sebulba's main rival
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what's the absolute last day to see TFA in imax in the U.S.?
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>>78656299
I got Kylo Ren the other day
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Help me /co/, I'm...actually enjoying Battlefront, even though I know I shouldn't. I just love shooting rebel scum too much.
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>>78656405
What if he was always an amazing racer but just had a shitty day
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>>78656431
In the EU he was a scrub from the minor leagues who only entered the race on a dare. Apparently canon at least kept the part about him being a rookie nobody at the time of that race.
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>>78655753
Shit taste, desu.

>>78655724
tumblr of course
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>>78656405
Pretty cool that Anakin still keeps up with the sport and even has a poster with his old rival on it
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>>78656124
>defending Jar Jar just to be a contrarian shitposter

Wow, what a surprise.
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>>78656240
One word and an acronym:

Space AIDS
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>>78656477
He probably spergs out over it on holochan
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>>78656434
It's not rape if it's consent anon.
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>>78651445
How is it pic related?, shes not human
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>>78656512
What if it started out without consent but he ended up liking it?
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>>78656518
see >>78656240
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>>78656526
Sounds hot.
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>>78656434
But which one is supposedly saying filename?
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>>78656611
Lucas
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>>78656498
Think he kept it up as Vader?
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>>78655971
It was alright at first, basically be a background character in Star Wars, set in between ANH and ESB. Fight for the Empire, join the Rebellion, be a pirate, or just start a business or a city and do stuff with other peeps.

Then the NGE rolled out and I think the timeline was moved to post-ESB. Also every single mechanic in the game got FUBAR'd and it was never the same. SOE tried to turn it into WoW in space.
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>Anakin and Padme are sharing a tender moment
>Anakin is whispering sweet nothings about sand
>He moves in to kiss her
>Suddenly Padme stops his mouth with her foot and starts speaking on Huttese
">>Not so fast, poodoo <<"
>She removes her mask
>It's Sebulba
">>I always win you slave scum <<"
>Anakin screams NOOO as he is fucked by Sebulba's fleshy branchlike dug penis
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>>78652188
>implying getting hit by hot molten bullets isn't worse.
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>>78656774
His anger gives him strength, so in order to give himself an edge he always goes to holochan before a battle and lays the smack down on some shitposters who insist Boles Roor is the greatest podracing champ of all time even though both of those wins were vacated after he was found to use performance enhancing drugs.

Joke's on Vader though, they're just pretending to be stupid!
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>>78656835
Pretty sure it's stated somewhere that slugs get vaporized by lightsaber blades.
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>>78656830
>Sand gets EVERYWHERE
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>>78656830
>Anakin is in a space battle over Cato Nemoidia in the Clone Wars
>He's overrun by buzz droids from a CIS gunship
"Artoo, keep them off me!"
>R2 D2 makes no sound
"Artoo?"
>Suddenly R2 is talking but not in a series of beeps and whistles, but in Huttese
">>Some ace pilot you are, slimo! <<"
>The dome comes off R2
>It's Sebulba
>He throws something into Anakin's engine before jumping out into the cold airless void of space, laughing.
>Anakin screams NOOO and his jedi starfighter falls into pieces of twisted metal, catching fire as it falls to the surface of the nemoidian homeworld
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>>78656621
Finn: "Yeah, I need a pilot just, please, don't rape me!"
Poe: "What are you talking about?"
Finn: "Don't trick me, I know all about your cocky Resistance. The entire legion of the Emperor's finest bear raped at the Battle of Endor. The Battle of Yavin where Luke Skywalker personally raped the Death Star's thermal exhaust port until it exploded. Look, I want out of the First Order but I also need to protect my ass!"
Poe: "You've been listening to propaganda, we don't- NO! I won't rape you!"
Finn: "Okay, man, that's all I needed to hear......... I mean you can rape me a little if you really want."
Poe: "I-What!? ... Maybe if you buy me dinner first."

Charlie Rose: "So you aren't happy with anything JJ Abrams and Disney have done with Star Wars?"
Lucas: "Of course not. I had vision and tried to make my movies distinct, and my initial screen treatment proves this. Now you want to pull down your pants and bend over the table."
Charlie Rose: "I want to pull down my pants and bend over the table."
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>>78656879
It's Sheev and Tarkin on the other end, taking turns trolling him

>gasgano was a cool racer his ord mantell podracer had a top speed of 120 mph that is the best pod there is

>YOU STUPID FAGGOT KEK DICK SLAPPER YOU JUST PROVE YOU KNOW SHIT ALL ABOUT PODRACING FIRST OF ALL IT'S CALLED AN ORD PEDROVIA AND ITS MAXIMUM SPEED AS 823 MPH WHAT KIND OF DUMB NERF DUGFUCKER THINKS 120 MPH IS REALISTIC IN A PODRACE AND FOR YOUR FUCKING INFORMATION THE ORD PEDROVIA IS NOT THE BEST POD EVER MADE BECAUSE THAT'S THE RADON-ULZER CUSTOM THAT WAS ENTERED IN THE BOONTA EVE CLASSIC BY ANAKIN FUCKING SKYWALKER THE BEST RACER THAT EVER LIVED SO GO BACK TO YOUR RED'ITT HUGBOX YOU PHUIISUCKING NUKNOG GOBBLER
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>>78656932
Lightsabers slice through metals easily enough so pretty sure it doesn't need to be stated. No clue if there are still any lightsaber resistant metals in canon. Cortosis has been mentioned but only use has been an anti-blaster mesh worn by a cyborg jackass in A New Dawn.
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>>78650736
Bith
Curved hilt, Red blade
Shien
Aayla Secura or Oola
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>>78656611
white slavers
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Will Wedge or Obi Wan ever show up in Rebels?

Will Ahsoka come out of the closet?

Will they ever fucking show what happened with Darth Maul?
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>>78657071
>DUMB NERF DUGFUCKER
>YOU PHUIISUCKING NUKNOG GOBBLER
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What was your audience's reaction when Luke appeared? Mine was full of people gasping and I think a few people were crying. I teared up a little bit myself when he first turned around and you could only see his beard and when he took the hood off I was basically pic related.
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>>78657189
Fuck, wrong pic but close enough.

Also one thing I fucking love about TFA is how it treats the OT like legends because I've seen little kids who legitimately are thinking of the OT the same way Rey did. I can't imagine how fucking awesome it would be to be a parent right now showing your kids the OT after TFA.
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>>78657189
Nothing.
No one made a single noise when Luke popped up.
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>>78657189
At all three showings I've been to, nobody reacted to Luke. No reaction to Leia, Threepio, Vader's helmet, Ackbar, etc.

Han and Chewie's entrance was the only one that got a reaction every time, even if it was just a few people going "woo" or "yeah." The Falcon got a laugh all three times, too. I heard a single "aww" once when Artoo was revealed.
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Can someone please try and give a logical explanation why midichlorians are supposedly a bad thing?
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>>78657189
Most of the reactions in my theater were based around funny shit, the old cast (except for Luke, oddly enough), and some minor shit.
I think I was the only one who said anything when Ackbar showed up, same for some of the more subtle things.
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>>78657259
Because they ruined the mysticism of the Force you retard
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>>78657189
Unlike whatever third world monkey infested hellhole you live in, people here understand that you sit quiet in a movie
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>>78657259
Initially they sound like they take the mysticism away from the force. No longer making it about the morality or faith but about biology and blood. I understand that that's not what they are, but they did a very poor job at explaining it in Episode 1.
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>>78657119
>Wedge
A Top Gun ep with him and Hera.

>Obi Wan
No

>Will Ahsoka come out of the closet?
Only if Barriss shows up.

>Maul
No. I'd imagine it would be a book.
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>>78657259
People grasped onto the idea that they are the cause of the Force, which isn't actually the case.
They were just a little peeved at the thought of the 'mystical' aspects of the Force being lessened, for some reason.
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>>78657273
In what way?
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>>78657275
What non-US bastion of civility do you live in? People never shut the fuck up in any US theater I've been in.
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>>78657189
Mine was

>damn he got old
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I just read the issues of all the Star Wars comics I have and I have to say, Vader is shit as of issue 5. Issue one was alright then it gets pants on head retarded with evil 3PO/R2, Geonosian droids, the girl, and Palpatine's science replacement for the force. I feel like all the other writers are channeling the OT while Kieron Gillen, who sucks anyway, is channeling the prequels a bit more.
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>>78657294
Lucas tried to explain the Force with "hard science fiction."
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>>78656830
>>78656987
>>78657071
more

>>78656422
Disgusting.
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>>78656422
Take it to /v/, I'm sure they'll be willing to not call you a fag.
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>>78656987

>Anakin, now Darth Vader, is on the bridge of the Executor looking out into space
>An officer, panicked, marches up to him.
"L-Lord Vader, the Death Star plans... they've..."
>Vader stares at him.
"...They've been stolen!"
>He can barely say anything else as his airways begin to tighten
>Vader raises his clenched fist
"How have you let this happen, Commander?"
"H-h-he... he alw- he always w-*cough*"
>The officer falls dead to the ground
>Vader looks back out into space
>A rebel ship whizzes by, a familiar face in the cockpit
">>Slimo!<<"
>It's Sebulba
>Vader yells NOOO as the dug podracing champion gets away with the Death Star plans
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Anyone got that cap of the Nute Gunray 'I was only nine years old'.
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>>78657480
>Vader decides to turn back to the light side so he picks up Sidious and throws him into the reactor core
>however a net catches him and he continues to shock both Vader and Luke to death
">>eheheheheh! Can't peeve the Sheev Anni boy!<<"
>the last thing Vader sees before he takes his last breath is Sebulba walking out of the room with his net
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>>78657398
>"Luke... help me take this mask off... let me look on you with my own eyes."
>Luke carefully takes Vader's mask off and at last sees the face of Anakin Skywalker
>"Now go, my son. Leave me..."
>"I won't leave you, I've got to save you!"
>"You already have... Luke, you were right about me. Tell your sister you were right."
>Suddenly Luke takes off his mask
>It's you know who, laughing
>there was never a Luke
>Anakin's last thoughts as he dies are about how badly that son of a bitch punked him
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>>78657480
>The Emperor is dead
>The Death Star II has been destroyed
>The Rebels are celebrating their victory on Endor
>Luke Skywalker, who has redeemed his father Darth Vader, has burned the dead dark lord of the sith on a funeral pyre
>After the fires have died down, a single Rebel pilot approaches the charred helmet of Vader
">>I always win, bantha fodder<<"
>It's Sebulba
>A single tear rolls down his cheek
>As he take a big dug shit in the helmet's eye hole
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Yousa even bombad?
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The whole "Starkiller" thing kind of pisses me off, the First must have been like:

>Hey, you know that thing that took 20 years to build and was destroyed shortly after it's completion? The one that when the Empire tried it a second time it was destroyed even more easily?

>Yeah?

>Let's build another one that's like 50 times bigger! Third time's the charm, right? Right?
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>>78657627
Starkiller was far better designed, needing a coordinated ground and air assault that was only viable when the weapon was charged to bring it down. The Death Stars, by needing to be fairly close to the planet to destroy it, were tactical weapons while Starkiller, being able to kill planets in other systems then moving along, was a strategic weapon.
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>>78657680
Plus it actually worked this time. The seat of the New Republic has been completely obliterated and now there'll be another scramble for galactic supremacy. All that's left is the nu-Rebels vs nu-Empire beef.
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>>78657680
Please, it got killed by a fleet the size of the one that attacked the FIRST death star and THREE GUYS. THREE GUYS.
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'AN SOLO
YER A DEAD MAN
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>>78657737
Tell that to Kanjiklub
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>>78656408
Day before Deadpool comes out
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>>78651823
Fuck off, that shit is so fucking lame
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>>78657726
At least it wasn't one kid with voices in his head.

Still Starkiller was much harder, if not for Han getting everyone in, Finn getting the person to get the shields down, Chewie blowing a hole and Poe being a good pilot that run was going to fail.
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>>78657726
I still don't understand why they didn't use B-wings.

It's a demolition run and they're only using X-wings, complaining that they're not making a dent... NAH REALLY?
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>>78658055
They didn't have any.
Those that they did, were turned into group transports.
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>>78658055
Unfortunately, this is one of those questions that you have to fork over more money to Dath Mouse to get answered. The Novel and Dictionary explain that Leia has almost no budget and the only fighters she got were whatever was in storage mainly old x-wings and kalimarian transports
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>>78658055
because X-wings are the classic star wars fighter, the audiences like them better than B-wings
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>>78658060
>>78658114
I see. Good thing Leia is the New Republic now.
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So the First Order is thinking about replacing the Storm Troopers with new Clone Troopers? How about using Han as a template?
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>>78658168
>CGI Hans everywhere
>One Girl Han
I just want to see nerds blow their brains out from sheer rage
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Question, what happaned to the Clones that still had the chips after the end of the wars and being replaced by the Stormtroopers?
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>>78652715
I've never understood the love for Clones, personally.

I mean, from a 'military apsect, Star Wars is a total fucking mess, especially the Clone Wars, a series that really isn't very good in terms of tone or coherency. Attempts to portray character become confusing because they all blend together, and watching characters shout "MY BROTHER" when bad things happen becomes cringeworthy quite quickly. Design wise they are "okay", but furthermore it descends into pure fanwankery when people act like Stormtroopers are inferior (which sadly has become canon) in an attempt to ease a fanbase that doesn't understand the basics of story telling.
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>>78652247
fucking empiral racist shitlords
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>>78658197
Menial labor until they died. It was a pretty shit deal, only the 501st got any respect.
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>>78658237
Your talking about a fandom that claimed Boba Fett was the one of the greatest fighters in the galaxy despite doing absolutely nothing and "dying" like a bitch when he finally did do something.

TCW and the 2d cartoon did add a lot of awesome to their mystique though
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>>78650736
Quarren
Blue blade with a curved hilt
Ataru
Pass
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>>78658237
Finn and TR-8R, as well as The Guy Who KO's a Jedi In Half A Second In Melee in Rebels show us that stormtrooper competency varies. Some of the ones we see are a LOT better than any clones.

Others suck ass.
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>>78650736
Some humanoid thing
Lightsaber Pike
Niman
Fuckwaifus
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>>78658479
Clones are incredible as a team, but individually they suck. With the storm trooper conscripts its the opposite.
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>>78658168
>Hux and Smoke do this to rile up Kylo
My god, its just like Sheev and Tarkin all over again.
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I don't give a shit about the EU or the animated show, does that make me a pleb?
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>>78658904
You're a pleb because you have to ask.
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>>78657189
The entirety of the movie was predictable and too shallow for any genuine reactions. Only funny jokes like B-88, Kylo acting like a bitch, and goofy stormtrooper stuff like traitor and noping out got some laughs.
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>>78650790
I don't think it will beat Avatar, the foreign market isn't helping TFA as much as it helped Avatar
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>>78658922
That doesn't answer my question, anon.
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Something that's bothered me for a while now...why did Palpatine have any say at all in Jedi council politics?
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>>78658984
Because he's the king of the galaxy. No, seriously, I could explain it easily with the Jedi meddling in politics and such meddling requiring a bit of a power trade-off with the chancellor's office, but for all its focus on politics, the PT explicitely tells us about as much about how the galaxy actually works as TFA. It, too, does nothing more than introduce the parties present, that's it.
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>>78658984
Because the Jedi were heavily involved in the Clone Wars. He got Sifo Dyas involved in creating the clone army so when the Clone Wars happened and the Jedi were generals he could have an excuse to push bullshit on them in the name of making sure the Jedi and the Senate were on the same page regarding the war. Later he probably used this (along with Dooku's past as a Jedi) so he could say that the Jedi created the war so they could take over the Republic.
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>jedi wookie
I'm glad I marathoned this last week
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Thoughts?
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>>78659059
Best mini arc
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>>78659112
The correct side is winning.
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>>78653277
I really liked the idea of Revan being female back when I played the game, and was a bit bummed when I heard he's canonically male. A female Darth Vader-esque character Just seemed cool to me at the time.
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>>78650681
The pastebin is dead
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>>78659112
I'm surprised Austria is mentioned at all. Usually no-one gives a shit about us.
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>>78659127
I find it funny that all the generally shithole places are completely siding with the Rebels, and the northern hemisphere is more split/Empire-leaning

Just like in-universe!
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>>78659112
saw it a year ago
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>>78657259
They're not.
See
>>78657292 and don't be a fucking idiot like
>>78657273
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>>78657259
midi-chlorians were not well (or at all) explained in the movies, which is most peoples only experience for Star Wars. It made it seem like the little buggers gave you force powers, that the force WAS midi-chlorians.

Instead you can think of them more like looking at your genes to see if you're prone to certain cancers or illnesses. They don't give you powers, but if you have them you can GET powers.
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>>78656518
>she's not human
fuck off
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>>78659112
>glorious first world countries are Imperials
>shitty third world countries are rebel scum
It's like pottery, it rhymes.
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>>78658194
>One Girl Han
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>>78659112
>Russia is the Empire's 1 Fan

Can't say I'm shocked.
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>>78657712
>The seat of the New Republic has been completely obliterate
Like that matters, the capital planet of the New Republic changes each time a new Chancellor is elected.

The loss of the fleet is much more pressing.
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>>78659468
So the New Republic isn't dead just in a shit state due to this sudden attack and war.
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I started paying KotOR for the first time like 3 days ago.

Why those fuckers at BioWare don't let me have a romance with the best girl? They made the perfect waifu but she is 15. Fuck.
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To be honest I don't know what this thread is about but recently I've been getting into Star Wars and I've never seen any of the shows. Which are the best? What should I watch? Spoonfeed me please thank you.
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>>78659512
no mods to fix that?
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>>78659512
>>78659533
Congrats on answering your own question.
Mission is daughterfu material, not waifu you sick fucks.
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>>78659508
basically. I guess the fleet moves to protect the new capital planet, and they blew up the capital planet and the majority of the Republic fleet.

So now, the only group that has a majority of working ships is the Resistance. SI guess we can expect either the remaining Republic fleet to either join, or absorb the resistance to make a new one.
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>>78659512
>They made the perfect waifu but she is 15.
>but she is 15.
>but
what mate?
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>>78659524
Watch both Clone Wars shows. The 2003 show is great though it's non canon and doesn't have much of a story. The CGI Clone Wars is the best Star Wars show ever but it's first few seasons are kind of hit and miss and every now and then it has a weird arc about politics or Jar Jar shit that you can skip if you want. Rebels is hit and miss right now but will hopefully end up where the CGI Clone Wars went where it's amazing.

Here's a picture of recommended arcs from the CGI Clone Wars.
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>>78659588
Thanks. The cgi show is what's caught my attention now and then. Does it matter much if I skip the animated clone wars?
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>>78659629
>Does it matter much if I skip the animated clone wars?
Not really but it's only about a 2 hour watch though if time is making you not want to watch it.
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>>78659524
>To be honest I don't know what this thread is about
Star Wars. Chill here if you like Star Wars.

>Which are the best? What should I watch? Spoonfeed me please thank you.
Ok mate. There are a bunch of shows.

Droids and Ewoks, old cartoons, not really relevant at all. Clone Wars (2003) is a 2 hour long miniseries. It's not canon, but nice to watch.

Then you get to the two canon ones;

>The Clone Wars
Absolutely recommended. Lucas's pet project, designed to expand the Star Wars universe and flesh out characters. It's over 100 episode long, and you'll see why when you watch it. Some early episodes are hit-and-miss, but once you get further into the show, you will see some of the most brilliant stuff in the entire franchise.

>Rebels
A follow-up to TCW, but featuring mostly original characters. It's not as good as TCW, but still in its early days, and it's been improving rapidly. Is probably going to be the last on-screen appearance of Vader, at least for a while (unless he gets a Cameo in Rogue One). Definitely watch AFTER TCW though.

Hope I helped, feel free to ask any questions
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>>78659649
>>78659645
Thanks. 2 hours is pretty short, maybe I'll eventually go back and check that out. Right now I have the first episode of the cgi series open though. I didn't expect it would be so easy to find somewhere to watch it. I'm gonna watch it now
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>>78659685
Ok, enjoy it!
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>>78659685
>I didn't expect it would be so easy to find somewhere to watch it.
It's all on Netflix if you don't want to download it.
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I enjoyed Clone Wars a lot, how good is rebels? I have been kind of iffy if I should watch it or not, mostly for Ahsoka.
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>>78656487
Actually it makes a handy dumbass detector. You can only hold on to hate so long before it becomes ridiculous. It's been over a decade now, anon, Jar Jar can no longer harm you. Sensible people have stopped sperging about it because it's over and done. It's not anything to act surprised about or somehow superior to others. The ones who stopped caring got it right.
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>>78659778
Ahsoka isn't in it too much, but they're building up to her fight with Vader this very Season, so you're gonna' want to catch up.

As for how good it is, think TCW Season 1-2. Hit and Miss, but overall enjoyable.
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>>78659778
The series took a hit in art budget and sadly no longer has the easy method of replacing all military personnel with Clones for easy to explain away sameface and same VA. Stories are fairly decent and it's getting better. It's also begun including more TCWs characters and helping wrap up some loose ends with their second season.
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>>78659813
But if you bring Jarjar up yourself, that no longer applies. People who didn't like Jarjar then aren't going to like him now. If you literally force the topic in a conversation and they say "He sucks", they're not being dumbasses, they're giving you an honest answer you happen not to like.

Your dumbass detector only works if THEY bring up Jarjar without prompting.
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>>78655686
>check em, /swg/ edition
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>>78659872
>>78659872
You need to track back the conversation. The "dumbass detector" is >>78656079
Smug? Check.
Unwilling to entertain opposing opinion? Check.
Odds of being a shit poster? Off the charts.
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>>78656405
Good for him...
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>>78656801
>Then the NGE rolled out and I think the timeline was moved to post-ESB
Nope, still post-ANH, with an Echo Base flashopoint mission just for fun which only served to confuse things
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>>78659698
I did. Not hugely so but I can tell it's a show I'll watch all of. I already kind of knew that before really.

>>78659699
I don't have Netflix but I've found a site that seems to stream every episode.
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>>78657073
Electrostaves and riot control batons, so far. Looks to be if you electrify your weapon with a powerful enough current, you should be good. Didn't quite work out so much for these guys though
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>>78660019
Seems to be more about the energy field around the weapon forming a protective barrier between metal and lightsaber by repelling the latter. Just an electric charge won't cut it.

No huge shock. Lightsabers never were very good against energy fields.
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>>78660019
that gives some evidence to Lightsabers working through magnetic fields more than anything. With that, any metal that can generate an intense enough magnetic field around itself should be able to repulse a lightsaber blade.

You just have to make sure that it's also not so strong that you can't lift if off of a metal table, or pull all magnetic things to you all the time.
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>>78659994
If you enjoyed the first episode, you'll really love where the show goes I think.

The best thing about the show is the variety. One episode may be exclusively about the Clones. Then maybe Greivous gets a spotlight. Or Kit Fisto. Or Mandalorians. Or Bounty Hunters.

If you don't like one story, the next could be something COMPLETELY different and right up your alley. You can go from comedy, to (i shit you not) horror episodes.

There really is something for everyone with TCW, much more so than Rebels which has kinda' lost some of the TCW audience.
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Post little things you would do to change TFA.
>Kylo Ren is a force user supremacist
>The First Order seized Kamino and has been cloning the blood of a Jedi Kylo killed to inject in their Stormtroopers to enhance their combat abilities. Basically committing full on force blasphemy
>part of the reason why they do this is because they're doing what the Empire did with Inquisitors but on a much larger scale
>Kylo Ren is the enthusiastic leader of the First Order but is secretly being ordered around by Snoke and only his personal guard know how whiny he is
>part of the propaganda of the Stormtroopers is Snoke pulling some dark side fuckery to make them truly feel in the force that they are right and will end up winning the war. Instead of Hux doing the speech, Kylo goes full Hitler and mixes the first Snoke scene in where he asks the Stormtroopers "THERE HAS BEEN AN AWAKENING!!! HAVE YOU FELT IT?!!"
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>>78660081
>No Starkiller battle/Starkiller isn't destroyed
>Give Williams more freedom with the music
>Cut back on the OT references
>Make Rey fuck something up at least once
That's it really. Movie did its purpose, I enjoyed it. I am expecting a lot from 8 though, I'll be less forgiving on that one if it plays it as safe as TFA did.
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>>78660101
Rey did fuck things up twice. That these things were resolved in the same movie is not something new or surprising, it's been the standard for cinema for about 100 years now.
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>>78659556
It's illegal in our planet.
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>>78660135
>Rey did fuck things up twice.
Yeah she failed to keep the audience immersed and interested
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>>78660135
Dunno. Feel like she got off too easy. I still like her. I actually think her design at the end of the movie might be my favorite over Anakin/Luke's designs.

I'm interested to see where she goes.
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>>78660101
getting captured is not fucking up?
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>>78660081
>Kylo Ren's parentage revealed by Han telling Leia that he saw their son, not by Snoke before. Keep the scene of Kylo Ren talking to Vader's helmet though.
>Make Rey more like Han. A good pilot, decent mechanic, but things obviously don't go her way all the time. Give her at least once instance of "It's not my fault!"
>Rey has little moments of pause before doing the cooler shit she does (much like when she closes her eyes in the lightsaber fight) showing her calming herself down/unknowingly connecting to the force.
>the movie ends when Luke takes off his hood, cutting the back and forth face shots and the wide shot.

>>78660152
pfft maybe in your part of the planet.

>>78660135
The things that I can think of are releasing the alien things on Han's tow ship, which happily worked out pretty much the same way, if not better, than what she intended. What was the other thing she fucked up?
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>>78660135
People seem to focus on Rey handling Unkar's thugs so that Finn stops rushing to save her, however they seem to overlook a few minutes later when Finn saves her once and arguably a second time. The first time he pulled her away from the Stormtroopers, which is less than certain but probable they would have killed her, and the second time definitely in pulling her from the tent before TIEs exploded it. Neither time she was happy with him grabbing her hand, but after this second save next we see her offering her hand to him. It plays as the point where, realizing he saved her, she offers him her acceptance.

Did she ever need saved again? Sure she got out of her cell in Starkiller Base, albeit with Kylo Ren's accidental help in showing her how to connect her mind to others with the Force. But Rey still would have most likely needed them to pick her up anyway, unless she can manage to steal a spacecraft. To combat Kylo Ren she needed Finn to have brought her the Lightsaber. She also was saved by the timely arrival of the Falcon at the end.

Honestly I can't see where she's always perfect and never in real trouble and doesn't need help.
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>>78660177
It's not wrong to want sharper consequences for protagonists. I actually agree with you in principle. I would love a shift in the cinematic scope where a protagonist can lose and lose hard. The problem with that is always scale. Writers need to balance the lows with the highs.

SW7 does have its share of lows, but I feel that it was so upbeat for most of its main character's plotline, because they were killing a major protagonist permanently. Rey's minor fuck-ups were minor to contrast the jarring death of a main character.
The second thing they experimented with was the villain. Ren is a very nonstandard concept as an antagonist. He's genuinely something new which, again, is always a risk. People might not like it.

So, with two big risks like that, you need to play it safe with the rest of the cast, which means Rey suffering only fairly minor immediate setbacks. Some of these could very well have far reaching consequences later on, though, especially revealing herself to Snoke early as a force user. Another snake in the garden of Eden in terms of Rey is her tapping into the dark side frequently. Her on the surface flawlessness is really only skin deep, but it's necessary to keep the movie from being too dark for Hollywood money to back.
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>>78660196
>maybe in your part of the planet
Lucky bastard.
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Does anyone else find it weird that the Star Wars movies aren't on Netflix? You would think they would be getting their shit together and putting them on there especially with all the kids used to using Netflix who will want to watch the other movies after TFA
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>>78651824
You say this posting best girl.
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>>78660316
I think its because of how much money Star Wars makes physically. Everyone owns Star Wars physically, even multiple times because of the re-releases and wanting the movies on newer tech.

Plus, they just started releasing the movie digitally themselves, and released those fancy new steelbook blu rays.

So yeah, they're probably avoiding Netflix, at least for now.
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>>78660316
If Netflix is a subscription model with a monthly fee, the cost to get Star Wars may far outweight the benefit, because most people it would draw have already subscribed for cheaper things your average SW fan also likes.
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>>78660316
I don't know how much money a company gets back for Netflix views, but since Disney can produce and distribute everything all on their own, they make more money making physical copies than they would hiring Netflix to distribute.

When the physical copy sales die off in about ten years (after all, all the previous movies will see a re-release when any of the new movies comes out on disc) you can expect to see them in streaming services.
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So what exactly did Kylo Ren say about clones near the beginning? I saw it in IMAX and that bit was still muffled.
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>>78660471
Something like "perhaps we should go back to using clones", implying they're more reliable
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>>78660471
Just said that perhaps they should consider using a Clone Army instead, and Hux gets angry, insisting that his Stormtroopers were the best soldiers there are.
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>>78660471
>Perhaps the supreme leader should replace them with clones

or something to that effect. I got the sense that there was an idea to just use clones instead of "recruiting"
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>>78660471
He said something along the lines of "If you can't get your troops shit together Hux then maybe we should start using clones".
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>>78660316
A New Hope recently got added to my country's Netflix
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>>78660511
your country's dvd sales are slacking.
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>>78660537
pray I do not slack them further
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>>78653379
>The Sith Emperor being some fucking immortal god-being is so fucking stupid it hurts.
No it isn't and it'd be fucking retarded for the big bad to die every month and get replaced by another big bad. There needs to be 1 guy that isn't a weak bitch.

>Or hell, just make the Sith Emperor an actual fucking character, some Julius Caesar Sith fuck who makes speeches, consults with the Council, actually DOES stuff other than just being... there.
Yeah I just beat the JK story in TOR and it really bothered me how The Emperor was just some plot device. They made it so that you had a personal grudge with the Emperor so it's baffling that fucking Snoke already has more characterization than the God Emperor. I hear that big new expansion addresses that issue so I'm looking forward to getting to that if the game would stop somehow crashing my entire PC once a day.
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>>78660549
wait that doesn't work.
I should have said "I find your lack of DVD sales disturbing"

Goddammit I am a terrible Star Wars fan.
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>>78660328
Not gonna lie, she is

But my best girl will always be Keely from the old TCW webcomic
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>>78653552
>Jar Jar Abrams
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>>78660175
Thats only you anon
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>Doing Okinawan Karate
>Will be training in weapons soon
>Really want to get my hands on sai, but tonfa are steadily drawing an interest out of me

>inb4 what a stupid, dangerous design

She's trained in how to use them, that should be enough from you

now get on board
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>>78660618
>That would be stupid

That's why Bane changed things and crashed the Sith order with no survivors. It should be stupid. We should see how the Sith couldn't get things done when there were lots of them.
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>>78660720
Why are you learning karate?
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>>78660720
I want my waifu to come back, but I doubt that she will. Could she even survive on a jungle hellhole like Felucia without help?
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>>78660081
Only thing I would change is give like five minutes, maybe even just three of the New Republic talking about their relationship with the Resistance and then they get blown up. I would have also replaced Starkiller Base with a giant fleet and the mission is to blow up the command ship.

What the fuck is the rest of that bullshit you posted?
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>>78660771
Because I'd given up halfway when I was a kid because the kata were frustrating to memorize and I'd embarrassed myself too much in testing

I want to return to my roots, persay - rather not look back on the martial arts in ten years knowing I didn't give it a better shot

And now that I'm much older, I've come to appreciate kata a lot more, among other things
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>>78660196
>What was the other thing she fucked up?
Running away from the lightsaber, really exposing again the flaw she had in the movie, and getting kidnapped
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>>78660471
I liked his snark to Hux before mentioning the clones

"They're certainly capable of committing high treason"
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>>78660875
Now you must answer the age old question:

This that shit useful in a fight or just for show?
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>>78660909
Also still wanting to go back to Jakku despite her deep down knowing the truth of her situation
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>>78660941
Not that anon, but very much so, as long as you can adapt for the randomness of a real fight as opposed to a tourney allowing only one, eventually predictable, set of moves.
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>>78660262
This. Initially, I was pretty mad about Rey and the new protagonists in general winning all the time, but then I realised that Han Solo died in the same movie. People might have complained about the movie being too depressive if Poe had died too or if Rey lost some limbs during the fight with Kylo.
We can expect our protagonists to lose everything in VIII, since it's the middle part of the trilogy and Rian Johnson has never made a lighthearted movie.
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>>78660982
That was the flaw I was talking about
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>>78660941
Both? Martial arts are versatile in that they can be used any which way. The stuff you see in competitions and in the dojo are performed so as to assure you have the technique and orientation of the body down pat, and are capable of using them at full speed and power if need be. You learn form and from there practice fluidity. Body mechanics.

All in all, you should be able to end a fight on your own terms without getting dragged into what will essentially become a sparring match.

Though, just to round myself out further, I intend to delve into Shotokan and Kyokushin - the latter so I can take a punch without flinching and return the favor much harder and faster.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2BlT4oHclU
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>mfw I'm going through all the scenes in Episode 2 deciding which to remove or edit
>mfw all of these changes I'm going to have to make
REMOVE pointless scene of Jedi Council telling Anakin to protect Padme at 25 minutes
REMOVE scene of Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Mace doing fuck all at 27 minutes.
REMOVE Anakin whining at 28 minutes
REMOVE the first part of Anakin and Padme's departre at 30 minutes. Start with Obi-Wan giving instructions to Anakin. End scene with Anakin and Padme walking out of the ship.
REMOVE the rest of the scene at 35 minutes after Anakin says the Jedi are encouraged to love
REMOVE the rest of the scene at 39 minutes after Anakin's bus lands on Naboo. Have it cut to Anakin and Padme arguing over her security in front of the queen.
REMOVE scene at 44 minutes with romance shit
REMOVE the rest of the scene at 49 minutes with "Well if it works..."
REMOVE scene at 53 minutes where Anakin and Padme eat diner

And that's only halfway into the movie. Why couldn't the guy who did the Phantom Edit simply take out redundant scenes or ones where Anakin and Padme get all lovey dovey instead of removing all the important shit?
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Should I give The Old Republic a try? I was butthurt when it first came out because not muh kotor, but I don't really care about that anymore. Are the character stories worth it?
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Who's dick did Rian Johnson suck to get on a Star Wars film? Just surprisingly considering how little he's done.
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>>78661156
I should also say, Okinawan karate differs from Japanese karate in that the former really was meant for defending yourself in a fight, including the implementation of strikes to the face, breaking of limbs and low blows. Japanese karate, in the form of Shotokan and other derivatives, removed all that as a means of catering to mass consumption. Okinawan karate is very devious, due to its being developed from Chinese martial arts.
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>>78659112
fuck my country, chile, si the most rebel. Fuck allende
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>>78661313
*as a means of catering to mass consumption while still remaining relatively effective as a striking art
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Where do I find the novels for the OT and the PT? Can't seem to find them in the mega links.
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>>78660743
>That's why Bane changed things and crashed the Sith order with no survivors.
The Brotherhood didn't have a problem with people getting murked though. Their leader was a pussy bitch akin to cult leaders that are trying to get their dicks wet. Bane would be the Emperor's slave.
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>>78661293
JJ has only done one more film than him. He's not as big a name, but he's clearly been poised for a big break for a while with working up to larger projects and entering the mainstream.
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>>78660081
This movie needed way more than little changes, but let's see.
>Rey isn't good at everything and doesn't achieve anything easily. She has a more colorful personality, like Finn in the movie. Have her be mostly a loser until the triumph at the end, like Luke in ANH. Her and Finn have to rely on each other throughout the film rather than her kicking ass at every opportunity.
> Finn has a personality that makes more sense for someone who grew up in a fascist cult, and give him a good reason to defect. Give the fact he's originally a First order stormtrooper a lot more dramatic weight - he doesn't want to kill stormtroopers, people suspect him, etc.
>Kylo is played by a better looking actor, has a more subdued, intimidating and mature personality, but in a way that doesn't make him a cliche. Might be interesting if he was female.
>more dramatic weight to Starkiller and blowing up the republic planets.
>make it completely clear what's the political climate in the galaxy at the moment, who are the first order, what's up with the republic, why are there still rebels. Doesn't have to be lengthy exposition, just enough to give sorely needed context.
>More original visual ideas, still in line with the OT's style but not religiously adhering to it to the point of not creating anything new.
>Less action.
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>>78661520
>make it completely clear
>spell it out in a mainstream movie's intro that the rebels are space-ISIS

I can see why they glossed over that instead of rubbing it in your face. The people who have trouble getting it are exactly the kind of people who'd be seriously offended by this.
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>>78661520
>Her and Finn have to rely on each other throughout the film
But that's already the case >>78660261. Do you really think she hugged Finn just cause they're so in luv or something

>Finn has a personality that makes more sense for someone who grew up in a fascist cult,
Read Before the Awakening
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>>78661520
>make it completely clear what's the political climate in the galaxy at the moment
The movie only needed to give two or three minutes saying that the Republic was secretly funding the Resistance because they were disarmed and stuff. I'll give you that. However, you're describing wanting an entire exposition about shit nobody cares about. It's true we needed to know what the climate was, I mean I was a little confused about that myself but not an entire spiel about everything, especially considering it gets blown up
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>>78661486
The whole Sith history is generally a convoluted mess. I look forward to Disney fixing it and the tears when they remove shit fans liked even though it was retarded.
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>>78661612
>The First Order is actually being completely honest about the Republic lying to everyone.

I enjoy the fact that the good guys are also shit heads, but they have a "better reason" to be.
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>>78661520
>Finn has a personality that makes more sense for someone who grew up in a fascist cult, and give him a good reason to defect. Give the fact he's originally a First order stormtrooper a lot more dramatic weight - he doesn't want to kill stormtroopers, people suspect him, etc.

This has been one of my biggest problems.

It just feels awkward that being brainwashed by a cult Finn defects and comes out all goofy acting like a 21st century minstrel show and has no problem killing the people he was raised with.
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>>78661612
>especially considering it gets blown up

That's exactly WHY we need to know dummy.

Without any context it means nothing to us. Made even worse by the fact that nobody in the resistance gave any fucks either because they immediately dismissed it and started quipping about luhmow 3rd death star
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>>78661560
What gets me is how people are saying the movie was "hard to follow" when every one of my casual SW fans followed it fine. Even my dad and he's like in his 60s
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>>78661672
Yes and I am saying I agree, it needs context but the only "context" is something like "Okay, due to our continued de-militirization, the motion has passed to continue to support the Resistance's efforts against the FO" and then like another minute about how they don't want to become Empire 2.0. That's it. That's all they needed. Not an entire 5-10 minutes about it

>>78661648
>a 21st century minstrel show
You mean a regular person?
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When will episode 11 air? Sunday 10pm?
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>>78661682
I think it has to do with if people follow the news or not. The galaxy setup in SW closely mirrors current political norms, such as forced demilitarisation, occupations and war by proxy party. If those concepts are familiar to you, you'll have zero problems following the movie.

If they're not, well, you need to watch the news sometime. Seriously.

>>78661648
Finn is socially awkward as fuck and has no problem killing 'the enemy'. That is exactly what he was raised to do, only his perception of 'the enemy' has shifted. A normal person would have more empathy, but Finn has been brainwashed like the rest of the FO troopers. That he was able to even partially break his conditioning and redefine his friend/foe spectrum is an impressive accomplishment. Suddenly expecting him to show empathy with soldiers is a considerable stretch. For Finn, what you do to your enemy is KILL THEM.
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>>78661722
>You mean a regular person?

He acts like a black stereotype.
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>>78661812
No, Kevin Hart in Ride Along 2 acts like a black stereotype. Finn acts like a regular dude
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>>78661247
Speaking of, I was thinking of changing the opening crawl to say 'EPISODE I: ATTACK OF THE CLONES", adding in the parts of TCW where Anakin meets Ahsoka and when Nines and his crew pass training and join the 501st. Then I would make an Episode 2: The Clone Wars where it's a few important arcs from The Clone Wars made into a 3 hour movie. I would then remove some stuff from Episode 3 and add in an abridged version of Ahsoka leaving and the Order 66 arc of TCW.
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>>78661848

Everything with Phasma was straight out of a "how black people act" joke.
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>>78661812
Please. I have actual nigger friends. They are a billion times worse than Finn
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>>78661864
They really do act like that. Ever had a black friend?
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>>78661848
Finn acts like Kevin Hart any time he has a moment of comic relief.
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>>78661864
I saw it more as a dude getting excited at taking a shot at his former boss. Finn doesn't exaggerate himself to fulfill "Black Stereotypes". Plus his actor's British and he remembered to remove his accent unlike Rey.

>>78661867
A very crude response, but reinforces the point.
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>>78661882

Nobody said stereotypes didn't have a basis in reality. He's still a stereotype.
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I'm getting this feeling none of you guys have black friends or are black
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>>78661812
What? No he doesn't, I'm black and he acted like any regular person. He may have "whooped" at shooting down TIE Fighters in the Falcon, but you seriously can't pin hype behavior on a single racial stereotype. Not when you see the same fucking thing in World War II movies all the time with white actors.

Finn is actually a normal everyman. Not a black stereotype or "super negro", and that's what makes him feel more encompassing

Also I'm not sure why being indoctrinated to be a Stormtrooper from birth means that you lose any and all semblance of personality. Not when we know they're all given nicknames and all have their own quirks

Also those Stormtroopers who cut and ran when Kylo was having his tantrum
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>>78661864
No, that was a "I quit my job and my boss was a bitch so now I have a change to get revenge" comedic moment. Many movies have that.
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>>78661848
Finn tries to. It's what he wants to be, but you can see him fail at it at times. He's a horribly bad liar, for one. Rey buys his initial story, because she's a hermit and has no frame of reference, but someone who's seen a bit more than sand sees right through him. He's also overtly attached to friendly people he sees as 'not the First Order', which is likely his moral spectrum for 'good' after the civilian massacre thing.

It's the little things that make him seem a bit comical at times, but ultimately add to his character. One thing he isn't, though, is a racial stereotype. Even the phasma scene is far more indicative of him not knowing how to properly behave in that situation than anything else. He comes across less as a "nigger" in that scene and more as unrefined and underdeveloped, like a child trying to talk tough and only having bad television to work off of.
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>>78659112
That graph is misleading as fuck.
At most there is a difference between 14%, no one faction having more than 60% in any of the countries.
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Can confirm that Finn acted like a pretty normal guy.
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>>78661790
not for some years yet mate
We still have the rest of this Trilogy to get through before we move on to the next
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>>78661922
I do. All my childhood friends are black. Like 50% of my gym is black. They hoop and holler all the time. Finn is in the low end compared to them
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>>78661899
>and he remembered to remove his accent unlike Rey
Is Rey not supposed to have the accent?
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>>78661882
I'm wondering why you lump us all into the same circle

We can be as diverse as any white guy, you know. It just really depends on where and how you're raised as well as the environment you grow up in
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>>78661959
I meant the people who think Finn acts like a stereotype
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>>78661520
>Kylo is played by a better looking actor, has a more subdued, intimidating and mature personality,

No, fuck off. Driver was the perfect choice and he's a damn great actor. The point of Kylo's character is that he's not mature or intimidating yet and you missed it entirely. He will eventually grow up in the next movie since Abrams compared him to Luke who had similar character development, but it's good that Kylo Ren wasn't just Vader 2.0, but a flawed villain who is trying to be someone he clearly is not.
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>>78661882
>>78661903

If anything, that's a result of cultural pressures and previously established stereotypes. There are a slew of socioeconomic factors and aforementioned cultural pressures which lead to that behaviour. Also, frankly it's stupid to assume that literally every single black person is like that.

I'm not even counting African Immigrants and people from other areas of the world like Jamaicans, Haitans, etc.

I don't want to make a race war of this, but most Stereotypes come from numerous different factors that all pile together over the course of decades.

Or have you forgotten how Black People were in the 40''s - 60's? When they were still openly shit on by everyone else, and family units were still relatively stable.

Also, this:
>>78661922
>>78661940
>>78661947
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>>78661882
>They really do act like that.
That's what typecasting is.
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>Faggots still try to pretend Finn was anything but one of the best parts of TFA because "He's a black guy" is somehow still in effect
>Even though he's almost certainly the more popular of the main characters other than probably BB-8 itself

Get fucked
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Is there any canon explanation for why Obi Wan knew all about Darth Vader in episode IV?
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>>78662180
Because he and Yoda have been hanging out for like 20 years biding their time, I'm sure they'd keep up to date on events
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>>78662180
He actually knew Darth Vader back when he was Anakin Skywalker, they were good friends.
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>>78662180
There's a canon explanation for everything in Star Wars, its called The Force.
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>>78662117
>One of the best parts
>Competition is Captain Who, Mary Sue, Crypt Keeper Looking Veterans and Poe's Magical Disappearing Act.
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>>78662117
It's funny because /tv/ of all people likes him.
At first it was all racist shitposting and the like.

After seeing him and Poe interact, most of them hate Rey for being "bland". And they love the guy now, it's weird.

It's even gotten to the point where contrarianism is so great, that they actively shit on TFA and defend the Prequels.

I liked all 7 movies so I can't complain. But it creates this weird narrative where the PT and ST will be in flux for the next decade.

The OT is still untouchable to everyone though,
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>>78662180
As per OT, he only definitely knows during their final confrontation. It's entirely possible (but not really likely...) that he genuinely thought Vader killed Anakin until he was face to face with him in person.
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>>78662180
He watched a security recording where the Emperor literally told Vader his new name. Were you not paying attention at the end of episode 3?
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>>78662246
The complete turnaround on /tv/ to loving Finn now is fucking hilarious and completely insane. It just proves how terrible that board is.

Remember the reaction when that first teaser dropped? OOGA BOOGAs was the meme of the month and covering the entire board
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>>78662209
But how did he know Anakin survived and was the cyborg Darth Vader? It wasn't something he guessed. It was something he knew for certain when telling Luke about Vader.
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>>78662180
You remember there was a recording where Sheev says his name is Darth Vader right?

Surely he's heard of the powerful robot suited guy serving as the right hand of the Emperor

Put two and two together
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>>78662301
Because >>78662276
and also cutting off all him limbs and knowing what his fucking apprentice felt like in the force, especially since he'd fought him as Darth Vader.
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>>78662301
He can feel the force. I'm pretty sure there would have been a strong ripple headed to people that knew Anakin if he had died, being Chosen One and all.
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>>78662287
It's fucking uncanny. I rememeber that as well. /tv/ truly is the most fickle board. But there is some truth to their reaction.

Finn's first impression was the worst - sweating (which makes sense on Jakku in an airtight suit) looking around aimless and confused.

That shit was ripe for shitposting. But as the movie came out, we saw Finn in much better situations, we got a good gauge of his character.

I want to see more of Finn and Poe's excellent adventures, ft. Rey.

>>78662180
>>78662209
>>78662217
>>78662236
>>78662252
>>78662276
The OT has it's own minor plotholes, nothing to get worked up over.
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What problems do you have with EpIII?
Personally i thought it was a good movie way better than Ep1 and 2. The CGI wasn't as bad as the others and it still holds up. This movie got me into SW.
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>>78662017
And suddenly I'm imagining a scenario during filming where they have to redo a scene because the black guy wasn't acting 'black' enough.

Back on topic, I liked Finn more than I expected to. Granted, there were a couple of awkward moments (at least awkward in terms of fitting in with Star Wars), but nothing major enough to make me like him any less.
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>>78662287
It was predictable that if they realized hating Finn was too retarded that they'd swerve and channel all their unintelligent hatred into another character. Like their SJW "rivals" everything is racial and sexist so of course they think "Rey is a Mary Sue Feminist cunt!". Too many retards molded by the internet can't digest fiction like rational human beings.
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>>78662401
the poor choreography, and monotone acting of Christensen.
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>>78662401
It excarbates the flaws of the other two movies. While it has some redeeming points, particularily the haste of Anakin's descent, the continued necessity for everyone to be retarded for Palpatine to appear competent and the lightsaber fight choreography kill it for me.

The cringiest moment that perhaps illustrates everything wrong and completely out of touch going on in the prequels, though, is this single word:

>Younglings

Way to completely drain the emotional impact from a horrific moment and make people groan and facepalm instead, George. Good job!
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>>78662476
>the poor choreography
Nigga what?
The final fight was phenomenal. Before you go all "CGI was too much", it's mainly used in the background to create the environment of the fight.

As for the actual combat, these are 2 of the Galaxy's greatest fighters, the fact that it's so long and grueling is a testament to how evenly skilled they are.

It's the polar opposite of the Yoda/Palpatine fight, which showcased two old geezers getting tired of using fancy laser sticks and preferred raw force power. Two people who don't respect each other and BOTH wanting to put the other six feet under, unlike Obi-Wan who was on the defensive, and Anakin wanting to straight up kill him.

As for Hayden Christensen, say what you will about his acting, but I blame poor dialogue and even poorer direction on part of Lucas. The moments where Hayden is allowed to emote with facial expressions alone (especially in Episode III) are amazing.

Tell me that pic related didn't stir up something in you when you first saw it.
The man is intimidating as fuck when he wants to be.
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>>78662401
Padme gets sidelined, and is forced to spend the whole movie pregnant and crying.
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>>78662401
>Anakin using Force lighting
I would have payed to see this in film.
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>>78662608
Regarding 'epic fights', sometimes, less is more. The swordsmanship is nothing special and the fight itself is simply too long for the fairly banal finisher that, once again, like with Maul, feels like a win essentially handed to the protagonist for no reason at all.

I will agree that RotS was the high point of Christiansen's tenure as Vader. Lucas should have allowed him to emote properly before turning evil.
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>>78662608
i liked the part where they swung from vines like monkeys
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>>78662658
She was never more than a plot device with Tits and Ass in the series anyhow
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>>78662681
That makes me imaginse a scene where Anakin uses force lightning by mistake. Like he doesnt know how to do it and isn't trained in it yet but he's so mad that it starts coming off of him, and he channels it at someone or something
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>>78662608
>the fact that it's so long and grueling
It's just about as long as Luke vs Vader
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>>78662608
I completely agree with you anon. The only part I think was too much was the rope swing.
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>>78662354
>The OT has it's own minor plotholes, nothing to get worked up over.
That's true, but how does this one qualify? The only reason it could be a plot hole or inconsistency is because of events in the prequels, right?
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>>78662401
It has the worst dialogue in the entire saga.

>FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL

Fucking DiCaprio couldn't have saved this horribly written character. I actually feel sorry for Hayden.
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>>78662608
After watching him whine for two movies, I just wanted it to end, not even his John Wayne impression was enough to make me care.. The fight between Vader and Obi-Wan is drawn out, and suffers from the exact same problems as the rest of the PT in that all of the choreography comes from a place of missing your opponent by at least a foot and a lot of retarded spinning. The only interesting point in the Vader fight is when they both try to force push each other. It is a, what eight minute? long fight without any kind of satisfaction in it's conclusion, not that it could have ever had one since we all knew from the start of it how the fight would end.

You can have much more grueling looking fights with a much shorter time, Rob Roy's final fight for example is clearly taxing on both characters, with the length of fight clearly changing their tactics, and has the added drama of actually being willing to hurt our characters.

Christensen suffers from explosive acting syndrome, there are very short thirty second periods where he actually acts, but it's quickly squashed by the monotone. Who's to blame for it doesn't matter, it is a major fault for the movie and the series in general.
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>>78662691
I know I'm going to be fucking crucified for this, but I don't fucking care anymore. The only combat encounter in the OT a legitimately liked was the Luke Vader confrontation in RotJ.

The Episode IV is unbelievable slow and boring. Without context, i'm expected to give a shit about Ben Kenobi (a man we barely know). There was no tension in that fight, as he already raised the death flag beforehand, and Kenobi demonstrated nothing to suggest that he'd still be on even footing with Vader,

I know I'm going to get some slack for this, but I didn't really like the Cloud City fight either. Even without the full context, if we go by what was shown in ESB as a whole, then Vader was built up to be a badass, unlike Kenobi.
>Absorbs blaster bolts
>Force Chokes
>etc.

When I saw the fight as I kid, it was obvious that Luke had no chance in hell. You can see it in the scene itself, it's not even subtle.
>Vader waiting for Luke to strike
>Vader casually throwing debris at him
Hell, the only time I can thnk were Vader looked to be serious was his surprise attack at Luke, but he kept monologuing

He's a young adult who barely got some training from Yoda and Ben and they both kicked the bucket. The only moving scene to me was at the end where Vader drops the bomb that he's Luke's father.

The RotJ fight remedies the problems for me, as Luke has had previous showings in the movie that he's a capable fighter, and he's not the same person that he used to be.
>Mind Tricks
>Takes down a Rancor
>Handles Boba Fett

So when he has his rematch with Vader, I feel more for the guy. He actually has a greater chance of taking down Vader, and we know that Vader is not likely to toy around with him anymore.

The stakes are higher than they've ever been, because if Luke doesn't beat Vader and take down Sidious, teh Empire will still live on and his friends along wit hthe rebellion will die.

Towards the end of the fight, I feel more for Vader, who's amputated, damaged and dying.
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>>78662901
That's the entire build-up and why the Death Star II fight works, yes.

RotS, on the other hand, to a large part due to Lucas's piss poor dialogue and directing, fails to impact despite obviously being a parallel of that epic confrontation. It falls completely flat, because by the time we actually get some acting, most of us no longer give two fucks about the characters involved.
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>>78661940
But he's not supposed to be an everyman, he's suppose to be a guy who was raised since birth in an ultra fascist military facility and conditioned to be nothing but a stormtrooper.
It doesn't mean he shouldn't have a personality or be cold and robotic, but his personality and actions should reflect his upbringing. He acts too much like a regular guy who was maybe conscripted recently.
Alternatively, the movie could've humanized the rest of the stormtroopers to give Finn's behavior more context. It's kinda weird that they're all faceless super loyal fodder with barely any personality and then this guy is suddenly completely different.
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Do you think Ahsoka felt Anakin's fall to the dark side?
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>>78663059
No, she only felt him in Rebels
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I think the lightsaber battle in TFA is the best one in the saga. Never has a lightsaber battle looked so gritty and realistic before and the snowy forest was the perfect scenery for a fight like that.
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>>78663008
That's true, but the context of the fight is why I still like it. the buildup was missing, but the overall inevitability is what kept me on edge. I knew "what" was going to happen, but I needed to know "how?" How would Anakin become Vader? How would Obi-Wan know about Luke and Leia? Why was he on Tatooine?

Two guys who've known each other practically their whole lives and have almost died together numerous times.

The films do a shitty job of showing it, but they're like family. They do have some scenes in RotS, but that's what AotC should've focused more on - their relationship as characters.

Padme didn't really need much exposition and development, because she's not really relevant in the grand scope of things. Notice how Padme is not even mentioned once in the OT? Not even be her own Husband, Son, or Daughter?
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>>78662476
>>78662608

I feel like the fight should have gone more like TFA. Let them take some damage. Obi-Wan can get hit a couple times he just can't lose body parts. Anakin can lose a hand before the fight is over.

If you're not going to do a weighty slow battle like the OT you can't have NOTHING happen. The duel in TPM worked because despite it being flashy it was quick. But in RotS it's just the two of them twirling around with no results for a long ass time.
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>>78663008
>>78663107
There is no lead up to Obi-Wan and Vader's fight in RotS, not like Luke and Vader's fight in Jedi. The amount of tension you get between them is Christensen's "he's holding me back I hate him, but he's also my friend" which combined with who he's talking to, how he sounds, and how he looks, comes off as a teenager whining that his parents won't let him stay out late.

>>78663107
>The films do a shitty job of showing it, but they're like family.
another strike against the movies, they do a shitty job of characterization.

Padme should have had the same amount of development as Anakin and Obi-Wan's friendship, she is after all the expressed reason Anakin throws that friendship and bond away.
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>>78662901
>The Episode IV is unbelievable slow and boring. Without context, i'm expected to give a shit about Ben Kenobi (a man we barely know). There was no tension in that fight, as he already raised the death flag beforehand, and Kenobi demonstrated nothing to suggest that he'd still be on even footing with Vader,

You're judging it decades after it was released. The first time anyone saw that movie it was the first time we ever saw Vader's lightsaber and the first time we ever saw two people fight with lightsabers.
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>>78663175
more importantly he's comparing it to the retarded and needless flips and spins of the PT.
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>>78663086
I agree completely.

>>78663107
Yeah, I can see it from that angle. Conversely, knowing what was going to happen in the end was always a hurdle the prequels kind of needed to overcome. When a story's outcome is fixed, it needs a really good delivery, from writers and actors, and with the PT woodface we so often got, that simply wasn't the case. People get drawn into an actor's personal charisma or exhilarated by his threatening presence on screen. Without that tool at their disposal, people have long since zoned out before the fight itself.

Rewatching it, on its own, without prior context actually makes it a lot better for me than it was. I would have preferred less acrobatics and a slightly slower pace, however. It would have given the actors more time to shine, but, again, Lucas doesn't seem to like that.
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>>78663086
The fight between Kylo and Finn was a nice mirror of the TESB confrontation between Luke and Vader. Kylo just toys with Finn. He doesn't take him seriously and just shows off until Finn wounds his shoulder. Then Kylo quickly defeats him, just like Vader did when Luke hit him in the shoulder.
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>>78663059
No, Rebels makes pretty clear that she only found out about him in Siege of Lothal
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What would you guys think about Disney remaking the prequels, knowing how negatively everyone perceives them?
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>>78662016
>next movie
It doesn't matter what happens next movie, it can't retroactively fix this one. And TFA has shit villains. Not only Kylo, the whole first order was pathetic. Why should I care whether the heroes win or not if the villains are weak not intimidating in the slightest? Even their Starkiller base didn't feel like a huge threat since it was only there to produce a few CGI explosions that didn't matter. The stakes were far too low.
I've got no problem with Kylo being a flawed villain trying to be someone he's not, but him being a whiny brat + losing to untrained Rey + being part of an incompetent villain organization is too much. Give him something at least!
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>>78663243

Rey/Kylo felt like RotJ too.

Protagonist is initially on the defensive until they give into their anger and just start hammering blows on the antagonist, taking them by surprise and wounding them.
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>>78663274
That's exactly what I suggested a few threads ago. The broad strokes of the story aren't half bad, but the execution is where it suffers, and if anything, Disney has shown us Disney can execute VERY well.

They even executed George's ego
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>>78663274
>remakes

Abso-fuckin'-lutely not.
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>>78663274
They would get even more shit for remaking the movies, especially if they made them worse.
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How much grinding is needed in SWTOR if you just want to finish your class storyline?
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>>78663175
I know. I say that as a person who watched all 6 simultaneously for the first time.

The fight itself is not great, but they get slowly better over time.

>>78663199
I personally liked the flips. The whole point was to emphasize the skill and training of actual Jedi and Sith in their prime. It's fine if you hate them, but I could easily say Obi-Wan's twirls in Episode IV fight were even more stupid.

All the fights across the saga make sense contextually speaking.

The Prequels show an Era were Jedi were trained from childhood to hone and use the Force.

The OT showed a time were Lightsaber techniques and Force Abilities were dead. The only combatants were an aging Jedi, a crippled and aging Sith, and a 19 year old kid with a week of training.

The TFA shows a resurgence of lightsaber techniques and force powers, as Luke and Snoke begin to reteach ancient techniques and the like.

You complaining about the nature of the Prequel fights is fucking stupid given context. It's fine if you personally dislike them, but don't recognize why they're there, and that some people have different opinions.
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>>78663274
it would be a waste of resources. Instead they can write their own stories and do soft reboots of various aspects shown in the prequels as needed, and more importantly make up their own stuff for what was never shown. That was the entire point of throwing out the EU. Half of it didn't make sense, and the other half conflicted with everything else in Star Wars.
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>>78663309
>untrained Rey

I've seen black belts get their asses handed to them by supposedly 'untrained' fighters with considerable practical experience.

Three tries to guess what Rey is repeatedly shown as in TFA.

(If you've even seen the movie, that is.)
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>>78663327
Zero. You just do the purple quests (planet/faction story and class story).
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>>78663274
Prequels are too fundamentally flawed to be worth remaking. You'd pretty much need to replace them entirely.
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>>78663330
Not that anon, but I'd like to point out there are better ways to showcase sword techniques than a performance in interpretive dance. I would have loved to see the PT done with a fight choreography straight out of HEMA myself.
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>>78663309
How is the First Order more incompetent than the Empire exactly? How is Kylo whiny at all? Why do you call Rey untrained when she fought to survive for basically her entire life? Your criticisms don't make any sense.
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>>78663389
See
>>78663316
The premise and general idea is fine. It was Lucas's execution that people hated.

Or are you going to be THAT guy who hates great things from the Prequels like the God Damn Clone Troopers?

I even liked Podracing, come at me you fucks.
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>>78663389

I disagree. A rewrite is basically all they needed. Certain things need to be expanded others reduced. Even the actors are fine.
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>>78663330
>I personally liked the flips. The whole point was to emphasize the skill and training of actual Jedi and Sith in their prime.
and you don't do that with flips and flashy shit. "Alright, now, once I catch my weapon after throwing it up in the air to block an attack I could easily have done with my weapon in my hand, I will spin around, blocking another attack from behind my back that would have been easily deflected without spinning, and then I'll wave my sword around by body for three seconds hitting absolutely nothing." it was all pointless filler and does nothing to help them stop the person that's trying to kill them from killing them.

The Force training comes off more as a dance studio than any kind of martial art.
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>>78663436

I fucking love Episode I whole-heartedly and I think the Pod Race is one of the highlights.

Still upset I'll never get Black Series or Figuarts Qui-Gon
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>>78663436
Nah, I don't hate everything. I actually love TCW, which shows Lucas is still a decent ideas man AT TIMES, when all he sticks to is ideas.

The PT are like a showcase of why he should not be allowed to make movies solo.
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>>78663436
>I even liked Podracing
Why do so many fucks find that race anything but boring? Because "muh videogame"?
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>>78663495
the race itself is boring as all hell, but the video game that they clearly wanted to make while they thought up the sequence was good.
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>>78663309
I don't care about characters' power levels and shit in this fairy tale flick but the Starkiller base supposedly blowing up the New Republic and its fleet(?) and people not caring were legit bad writing.
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>>78663495

Visuals are cool. Why do people not find the trench run boring? We know Luke's going to succeed.
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>>78663476
No one will argue against that.

The whole problem with the PT stemmed from Lawrence Kasdan not being able to assist Lucas and write the individual dialogue for the movies. He was swamped at the time IIRC.

Also, the Prequels did use traditional props and practical effects just like the OT. The hard work of all those men and women is overshadowed by blind CGI hatred of people (not your in particular, just people)

This gets to me because if Lucas had most of the same team and advisors to toss ideas around, the Prequels could've been superior to the OT - which sounds like heresy to say.
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>>78663530
This, the racers themselves looked great for ther time.

I was amazed that Rey herself didn't create one. It would've been interesting to see her and Finn evade capture on Jakku with it.
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>>78663522
The Starkiller base was a callback to showcase that superweapons of its style are finally obsolete. It was necessary to establish that, which is why it's a footnote and not the main attraction. People get so hung up on that it's there at all that they completely miss how it was portrayed: Not as the ultimate threat, but as an inconvenience.

I have no doubt the motto for the new trilogy is:

>The Ability To Destroy a Planet is Insignificant Next to the Power of the Force
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Star Wars - A New Thread: >>78663597
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>>78663549
>This gets to me because if Lucas had most of the same team and advisors to toss ideas around, the Prequels could've been superior to the OT - which sounds like heresy to say.

No I can totally see it. There's simply more going on in the galaxy at the time it's a fascinating time. TCW are the perfect example of what could have gone right and part of me honestly enjoys TCW more than the OT.
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>>78663530
>Why do people not find the trench run boring? We know Luke's going to succeed.

Because the stakes are high, it's about a character we actually care about and the editing is just perfect. The moment where Luke trusts Obi Wan's guidance and uses the force to blow up the Death Star is one of my favourite scenes in the saga.
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>>78663451
I don't see how people moving fast with the force leads to dancing.

Also, the fights were based on a slightly more practical (NOT REALISTIC before you scream) interpretation of Lightsabers.

Most, if not all of the mass in a Lightsaber is focused on the hilt. There's no need for long, momentum-building swings.

I still think the Maul fight is the definitive interpretation of lightsaber combat.
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>>78663626
Not him, but I liked the Podracing scene because it showed off Anakin's natural instinct and talent with the Force.

I also like fast-paced scenes in general which you can freely state as bias. It's also why I liked the prequel fights more.
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>>78663684
>TPM is the definitive lightsaber combat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
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>>78663684

The only problem really comes when you analyze it. That's when you realize they're hitting nothing and doing pointless maneuvers. But if you shut your brain off it's fine.
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>>78663734
>>78663742
Fair enough, I enjoyed it nonetheless.
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>>78662401
The pre-fight dialogue between Anakin and Obi is some of the unintentionally funny shit I've ever seen in a movie

YOU BROUGHT HIM HER TO KILL MEEeee
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>>78663274
How about no
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>>78663476
Imagine if Dave Filoni was around during the PT and helping Lucas out
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>>78663394
I was just watching this from a 2010 tournament, with a few very nice sequences that would have looked great for a movie. Namely at 2:45, 4:56, 6:33
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>>78663897
aaaaand I forget the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umi_HUoLdl0
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who here votes in favor of ignoring all discussion of jewjews new corporate schlock?
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>>78663941
Aye
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>>78663941
I'm sorry you're going to have to use English and not memes for me to understand you.
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>>78663941
this
if it ain't Marvel or DC it ain't for me
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