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First thread of 2016!
But we didn't start numbering right from the first one of 2015, so it could be #228...
Also, if we go back to square one... should we get a new logo too, maybe? Nothing too different, just a small variation
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
>Wise words from John Cleese:
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Reposting my page from yesterday in case anybody missed it. Thoughts?
Hopefully anyone searching for "How's Your Webcomic? #228" on desustorage will gth the "How's Your Webcomic?" from subject and "#228" from post content, but someone could just search it right into the subject bar.
Fuck it >>78647066 is right I fucked up and cycling will only confuse people. OP is always a faggot.
I just kinda liked the idea, like an aniversary thingie or something
But, I am not a Porn artist.
I am a adventure comic book artist. I trying to make the perfect line-art in order to make it bearable for my readers.
To be fair, a lot of people that do good adventure comics or whatnot take side works in porn comics. It's hugely common practice in Japan too, with creators making porn of their own work under a different name. Nothing wrong with maximizing your revenue streams to support your passion bruh.
Not a "Pron" artist or comic, just, tease them with the sexies and cuties is all, and they will grovel at your feet, like 90% of 4chaners and internet-anons do.
I'm just bein' goofy.
>to make it bearable for my readers.
It's actually pretty decent atm, it's not so much as an eye-sore as before, but it's progressing very nicely. You have a lot of potential to play around with this, your designs are simple and simple is effective and powerful. You are lacking variety atm, and I would like to see more expression from your comic characters, rather than just those generic mono-tone grumpy faces or these ( ' _ ' ) faces, just of a simple line mouth, experiment with lips perhaps, and contorting the face to reinforce the emotion that the character is emoting.
>Experiment with the faces.
What's the best thing to do when you have like 20 projects that interest you but you can only work on one and plan another at most?
Is there any point in projecting a character to be best girl?
I generally handle that by writing down everything I can think of on the other projects I can think of, and putting there someplace I'll remember to look for em when I can devote the necessary attention to em. Trying to do all of them at once will, at best, get them all done kinda shitty. Keep a queue of projects and focus on one or two at a time.
She was taking a Picture of her Werewolf friend (like this Image) but Since She still don't know how to use her new phone, it zoom in instead of zoom out.
I mean like, planning for her to be best girl.
Readers are the ones that decide that anyways and I'd be a Sheldon-tier writer if I went all "this is mai waifu, she is better than all the other characters combined".
Not really that proud about this page, desu,. But unfortunatelly Christmas and New Years week were pretty charged for me and I sort had to rush a bit of it and didn't have much time to re-work the pencils.
Oh well, will try to do better next week, how was everyone's new year?
It's real good.
My only nitpick is that I would have but some people in the background looking all confused in panel 7, since I assume she was in a pretty crowded fair, but that's not that important anyway, the art itself is excellent.
Honestly, it's better to let the readers decide who their best girl is. Make them different, but also make them all appealing in their own way.
I think actually trying to make a "best girl" risks just making a character that's too perfect to be interesting
Does it count if I did this before? Or should I try something new?
Got Amonzone to do this pic for me. Solaria, the trap superhero. Currently he's having a bit of a wardrobe malfunction. One of the downsides of having a costume made entirely out of energy.
Expect a bit more. Not a comic just yet, though.
Vectored and with flat colors. Last time I'll post this image here.
only three pages, the new year celebration kind of messed up my planning, oh well.
thinking about changing the background color into something more earthy, this shade is too yellow.
Dewd it seems you are having a problem with your arm-less character because a lot of the stock poses in your visual library use two hands.
I suggest you do something like >>78651689
but with poses rather than facial expressions. First fill it up with poses where a character with all their limbs uses hand and arm gestures to strengthen the pose. Then do it again, but this time your character has to communicate the same idea only using one hand.
I would if I didn't do that with Angel like, three days ago.
Maybe sometime soon.
Original design do not steal (c)(r)tm
The hours put into it were probably not worth it, but at least the next time I'll want to use this software, things should go faster. I hope.
Finally getting back to this stuff. Building up a buffer so I can start updating in February.
Oh snap, I got trips. Anyway, next page is sketched.
Letter-O-Matic. In photoshop, I keep it sharp.
Finished this page!
Angel is above that. She's probably the one to clap and cheer about how good you're doing.
Sarah on the other hand...
New page spread up! Hope you guys like it!
In yesterday alone, my site did more traffic than it did in the entire month of September 2015.
Feels good man.
Meee! Life is a rollercoaster and I think I'm addicted to the stress! I'm trying to create one but I'm about to say fuck it and update as I finish.
Have you checked out myscriptfont? You could probably make a couple of badass fonts based on your handwritten ones so you can consistently replicate the sounds of your characters voices and all.
Anyway, your comic looks really cool. Feels kinda mysterious.
Oh, no I hadn't. Thank you very much - this could save me a lot of time. I will check that out immediately!
Buffers, like insurance, going to the doctor, doing your class assignments and not living up to your neck in debt, are for people afraid of life!
But no seriously I am going to get myself a buffer or I am going to die in the attempt. Hopefully before the end of this chapter.
Also in the next chapter I should probably plan things out a bit more thoroughly because this whole "not sure what's actually gonna happen on this page until two days before it goes up" thing is pretty annoying.
Some progress on page two.
Lot of moving and rejiggering speech bubbles. Got another inset panel (or maybe two), to add, then hopefully just a bit of texture added to the flat colours (made a start with some of the big colour backdrop panels), neaten up the gutter spacing, and that's that.
Penciller thinks someone else should get the line 'Those madmen...' He might be right, annoyingly.
We got a tumblr now at peaceoneers.tumblr.com
That simple webcomic theme is great, very new to tumblr but seems like a good platform until we can build up enough content to warrant a website.
Without text you can really see how much personality you put into your speech bubbles. That's crazy good.
Some great gaelic landscapes too.
Is this for reference when drawing? Would you just do that for regular locations or is it easy and quick enough to do for all sorts?
I quite like the yellow (and that sweet Mignola-esque content on it). It make it look like a cheap paperback.
Like giallo, I think. Pulpy.
If you do make any fonts and feel like sharing, I know I'd be interested. Real good job.
Also digging the creepy, this is nice stuff. The way the cloak hangs around the skull (especially where it lets the...horns? through) is really nice, real imposing.
The horns, yeah. She looks like this from the front, in an idealized way. Also thanks! I hope people enjoy reading it and subscribe to it. I've already set up a place for it to go - just have to get to the whole uploading pages bit.
Shit me that's nice design. Cosmic creepy.
I'll be sure to look out for a link when you do put up pages someplace.
Are you drawing in pencils, scanning, then going over with a tablet digitally, or what?
My penciller buddy got a tablet for Christmas and seems wary about giving up physical drawing, so I'm curious about people who find a good balance.
After one panel and one (still under revision) line on the unfinished second page of an unknown comic?
Gotta be Clarity Koestler, right?
I'm mostly digital. The second page I sketched up while I was at my weekly pen and paper RPG session, took a photo of it with my phone, and referred to it as I drew. Of course, it came out a little differently than I originally wanted on account of my being poor at figure drawing. I'm still a little better at pencil drawing despite having years of practice on a digitizer - but that's also partly because my tablet doesn't have a screen so I just have to watch what I draw as a I draw it.
Her present character design is being pulled straight from a game I made a year ago called Ouroboros: The Sacrifice, where I did my best to emulate an 'ink on paper' feel without using shadows or color (with exceptions to the odd scene, such as pic related). I wanted her to almost embody the concept of 'larger than life', and pieced her together over I think 8 concept drawings. Before then I had no portrait of her beyond what her Scythe looked like but I like the current incarnation enough to keep it this way indefinitely.
If you'd like a link, it's presently being hosted here: http://afterdeath.the-comic.org/
What colorists do /hyw/ emulate? Been really getting into Dave Stewart recently, trying hard to figure out how he does what he does (like off-colour blemishes here and there that make it look painted and authentic).
Or will do when more gets uploaded. Got it saved, anyhow.
Apologies that it's not more than a splash page for the moment. I should be putting up page one fairly soon. I'm about 2/3 with the inking of it.
I'm concerned about how much time it's taking though, so I might scale back the detail on the comic some to make updates come quicker. 2-3 days/page doesn't leave me a whole lot of time to myself after all haha.
This new font is bangin. I'm loving what this frees me up to be able to do.
Imma make a thank you frame, anon. This is going to make this comic way more badass and much faster to produce.
five more pages to go in pop punk soap opera world
WIP of the next page!
refreshing to see someone who wants someone other than annabeth for once!
panel 8 made me lauugh
should be its not it's eyes
also when she says 'before' that sounds like you're talking about before she was posessed.. but they were open when she wasn't, right?
Comic is done, but I think I might re-letter. It's hard to read for me but that might also be cause of my poor eyesight.
Glad I could help! Looks good!
One more panel and one more page to go and I'll have 3 pages ready to go and 1 out the door.
I think they're really gay. If you want to show pussy or ass, just show it, don't fucking dawdle.
Unless there's an actual excuse for a woman's shirt to fly up, like she's falling or something, and then it's only physics.
I was actually thinking of making a thread asking about, not necessarily our webcomics, but our patreons, if you have any, and what you offer as rewards to patrons, what your tactics are for getting patrons, any tips, how many patrons you have, etc. Does anyone here have a patreon for their webcomic?
Any final suggestions for this page before I start work on the the page which kicks this all off (and my webcomic dies in its cradle)?
Art and drawing is cool as hell, but I'm not going to lie: The black spray-canning isn't really working for me. I feel like you should use actual tones, or find some other way to achieve that effect.
I can't really describe why, but it sort of clashes with the beautiful art, and just looks kinda cheap on it.
>The black spray-canning isn't really working for me. I feel like you should use actual tones, or find some other way to achieve
Yeah, it doesn't read well from a distance. I switched it back from noise to ellipse toning. Looks a lot more 'generic' this way though until you get up close.
best way to a successful patreon is to either appeal to a niche group (fetish comics, gender identity comics), or just have a great comic. Most of you posting here should not start a patreon, you'll just embarrass yourself.
I have a patreon related to my comic.
Number one tip, have fans before you make it. A lot of them. Patreons are this webcomic generations T-shirt design. You make it too early and you look sad and desperate.
The only thing that really stands out to me is the "LADY VOSHIM..." text overlapping the panel border and bleeding into the next panel's border. I would shrink that text a bit to fit it into the panel.
I swear I didn't TRY to draw this girl exactly the same in every shot.
also store interiors are officially worse to draw than crowds. I was utterly lost even though I had a clear picture in my head
It's not that rare - the English letter ſ was only abolished in like the nineteenth century.
But yeah the rune system in the viking era (the younger Futhark) consisted of just 16 runes compared to the previous system (the elder Futhark) which had 24 runes - runes for similar sounds were folded together (like, the rune that used to mean "a" could now mean anything from æ to o), which is one of the reasons why it's really hard to reconstruct the language of the period. The later runic systems had something like 27 runes, much like modern Scandinavian alphabets.
that's a variant-letter though. those get added and subtracted a lot..
that is interesting though, never heard of folding together vowels.
then you have hawaiian and holy shit what even is going on there
>Is this for reference when drawing? Would you just do that for regular locations or is it easy and quick enough to do for all sorts?
It's a room that I'll have to draw on 3 pages, so I figured it's a good enough excuse to finally try Sketchup. It's very easy and free to use, I'm not sure about speed though. There's plenty of assets available, so you don't have to model your own chairs, desks etc. If you have a recurring location, it's likely worth it.
those are totally crazygonuts. i love it.
the top one looks like one of those egyptian ibis gods and the other one.. the lizardy flatworm.. very weird and cool. The middlemost sketches seem to be having trouble keeping the ... er.. 'eyemound' straight though. the near-eye is too far forward or the mound doesnt extend far enough or something.
Thanks anon! Lettering is actually one of the parts I find more fun/relaxing, especially finding different speech bubbles for different magic characters; it makes it real easy to set up longer exchanges without baloon tails going all over the place or understanding who's talking despire characters not being "on screen"
Looking real good there, but I agree with what a latter poster said that the sort of "back spray" isn't working well. I generic screentone will do the job but it still looks good regardless
Incomming Shyamalan twist!
Updated and finished. Now I'm going to take a break because getting those three pages done took a lot more energy and time than I thought they would.
Comic's also available on taptastic now for those who prefer that. Voting's on page two for how often I should release new pages. http://tapastic.com/episode/256228
I'm pretty happy with how much I've improved drawing these characters. the left and right were only drawn about 4 months apart from eachother
How much do you think I can push this reference?
In the story,
Little Bot does have to fight a bot that was sent in by Sylvia before him.
You don't know how badly I want to make this trap comic. Dammit Amon you're making this painful to not have!
I'm still going to script and plan it. Also, I posted some comic pages. Just not here. For reasons.
I dunno, you really need that hair or maybe shape the head in a similar way. Otherwise I'm getting Nick Fury vibes based on the look initially.
Good improvement and I like the nice touches in the finished versions. What comic are these part of?
You already know how impressed I am with all this.
More potential alien waifus, eh?
Bueno as usual. Great character design and color. Hoping to see where this goes.
I should really read the rest!
Also I'm planning on dropping that page on Wednesday. I know I keep changing on plans!
Dewd, stop. I think your drawing hand is going to catch on fire at this rate.
This guy knows what's up. Also be sure to tell the Miss Melee writer the next time he posts a page. He'll love it!
In terms of waifuing, I'm polygamous... so all of them!
Hey folks, I want to launch a webcomic, and I was wondering what opinion does artsy /co/ have of Hiveworks.
Should someone apply for a partnership?
Are they restrictive with how you can use your IP?
Are they good with supporting beginners?
>post your image to your webcomic's site
>link other participants to your main site's blog
Hmm, not sure how that would work, since i keep my webcomic, and all other side art etc on two different sites.
An annual thing where artists post pinups/bonus comics on there site and link other comics who did the same thing.
It's super helpful. I still get people lookin at my comic from last year.
You can just do it in your comics description.
What do you guys think about contests as a method of advertisement?
I've been thinking about this for quite some time, because I have a small collection of duplicate Steam games I could use as prices.
Maybe I could make a fanart contest, but I've never made something like that and I'm not sure how to distribute the prices. Would it be better to bind a specific price to a specific place (for example: 1st place: Valkyria Chronicle) or should I let the winners decide what they want?
I'm also not sure if this is a good idea, because it feels like paying people to draw fanart when they're not even interested in my comic, but they might check it out afterwards.
What do you think?
Here's a list of the prices. Should be reasonable for a fanart contest.
Finally got around to finishing the pencils on this page.
You can't give away games you don't play anymore. Those are all games I like, but thanks to bundles, I've got several of them. Those aren't $1-tier bundles, though, most of the games are from rather expensive bundles, like those $12 monthly bundles.
In stat-related news, for the one person who cares, I'm breaking bandwidth records every day thanks to my scientifically calibrated* Project Wonderful ad campaign. I've used more bandwidth this month than in all of October.
It should be noted however that it's also much easier for my site to use more bandwidth for the same or even a smaller number of new visitors coming in, on account of the comic's archives are much larger than they were 3 months ago.
Sounds like fun, but I'm not sure I should take part on it. While my work gets spicy here and there, it's not its main selling point, and I feel being part of this would be pretty much making a deceptive advertising.
Maybe I'm overthinking all this.
Are you underexposed or just terrible?
Seek out communities likely to enjoy your comic
Get fanart of more popular comics
If just terrible;
First you have to have a good, consistent product. Then, you have to make people aware of it. It doesn't hurt anything except your wallet to advertise, and you can advertise with pretty good penetration for pretty cheap is you know what you're doing.
Make him cute by forcing the trait, or give readers the chance to relate by making the awkwardness more subtle and realistic ? Unless you're talking about panic attacks or sperging out in public, depends on how you approach the whole thing.
The thing with Watamote is that she was made to be unlikeable.
When the reader enter her mind, she's rotten to the core. She self justify doing stupid shit, and always think she's in the right.
A likeable character would have her or his mind showing that the character has every desire to do things right, but when the anxiety kicks in and the reader sees the failure, it becomes more endearing.
Watamote is evident that was made to make MC hateable as fuck.
>A likeable character would have her or his mind showing that the character has every desire to do things right, but when the anxiety kicks in and the reader sees the failure, it becomes more endearing
I'm actually already doing this with my character so I guess I'm fine, although I still worry about Watamoting them.
That's the average middle class family in Japan.
The brother is far more sociable and he didn't grew up as a weirdo who can't even look at a person without thinking they're sluts.
I think that the title perfectly explains both characters. "It's not my fault I'n not popular". He didn't lucked out to be popular, he related to people instead of rejecting them and now he have friends and is popular in his circle, while Tomoko decides to shut in and blames on everyone else all of her failures.
See that most of her classmates don't dislike her, but she's a ghost to them because she doesn't interact with anyone at all.
I stopped reading it a long time ago, did they explained who was the person in the bear suit that hugged her?
technically the title is 'no matter how you look at it, it's YOUR fault i'm not popular' which is even more appropriate. she's been dealt a bad hand, but she's never going to get over it because she blames everyone else
The top part of "After" is blending into the background too much, I think. While "Death" stands out and is clear, even in the thumbnail, you have to really look to see the word "After". Which doesn't help, given that it's the first word in the phrase "After Death". Perhaps have the gradient run from red/pink to gold, rather than deep blue to red?
Also, consider having the skull and horn a slightly lighter tone of blue, to help it stand out from the night sky and hood a little more. Everything's a uniform shade of deep blue, so no major forms or shapes stand out.
Take a look at a comparison chart to see how digitigrade legs work, to see where exactly the knees and ankles should be; it should be more of a Z shape than a <. But then, crocodiles are plantigrade, so a human-like leg would be more appropriate.
Otherwise, that's some great improvement over 4 months.
Eh, I stopped reading it when the glasses girl appeared, because the character became even more annoying, so I'm aware I don't have the full picture of it. From what I've read, that's the impression I've got.
>tfw you know your webcomic is going to be big if only people knew about it
Should I spend money on advertising?
I have no comparisons for them, but here's a really small monster who thinks he's a superhero, and a really big cat who's here for the food.
Here's page 4 of The New Prince.
There was an anon here who very clearly knew what the title meant early on.
Ashamedly, sometimes with lots of erasing. I just use Manga Studio's G-pen with high Stabilization and do lots of strokes with my shoulder.
Usually if it's not me erasing the line afterwards, it's me doing Ctrl-Z and doing the line again a few times to get it right.
Are you trying to do smooth, singular, strokes? That's what makes attractive lineart from what I've discovered: getting it right in one stroke.
It does take a little more finesse and practice to vary the line-widths like I do on-the-fly but that's just icing. Smooth, clean, lines will make your inking look professional.
I also gotta get used to doing THIS more. I've been drawing with my wrist all my life, so it's really hard to get used to drawing with the shoulder, especially with such a small tablet.
>My cousin is fat
>Sometimes she gets teased by classmates
>Decide to make a webcomic involving her creating an imaginary friend that makes her proud of being fat and uses her powers to turn her bullies into foods for her to eat and gain super powers
I have no idea why I thought of this but I'm already regretting it, but when I told my cousin about it, she completely loved it.
Mine isn't great; a good comic is much more than passable art. But I'm trying to work through that and bring it up to what I'd like it to be. Hard work, though.
WDFF does lack certain aesthetic qualities, but I feel that helps drive the narrative style of the comic.
That being said, I am working on improving my artwork for the sake of my more professional level works.
That and I am actively pursuing ways to drive fiscal success through my love of comics and all things nerdy.
>Who here doesn't have a webcomic but likes to bitch about people who do?
>getting this rustled by bait
Where others respond like well adjusted hard working people, you take it personally and lash out. Sounds like it hit a nerve.
I think he's aiming at the possible same anon that always pops in and talks about how they have no self esteem to do a comic. Where everyone just asks to see the comic but never get a reply.
There's something seriously wrong with people in these threads. They constantly manufacture a boogeyman for every little thing, from people posting criticism, to depressed people posting.
I got one thing to say to you. In gif form.
I drew sudden sand while sifting through the commands that weren't weird
This horrible command has been weighing on my mind.
Something about it is wrong.
>tfw sees Will Draw for Food advertisement
I love you Jim! Good luck!
>Tried to make it funny
>It is weird.
Goddamn, Even in 4chan, I am the weird one.
So, I've been struggling with this for a while. When I decided to re-colour the whole first chapter, I wanted to change format to horizontal, rather than vertical. The format I was using would fuck up if the horizontal pic exceeded the 940px wide, which my work clearly exceeded.
Now that the new version allows me to go up to 1600px, I can orientate the panels horizontally.
How does it looks in your opinion compared to the regular vertical panels I usually show?
Dunno, I'm looking at the original and the guidelines I made seems ok. I think I made her shoulders a lot lower than I should when I inked it.
But I promised I wouldn't re-make these strips, only re-colour them because I'll end up in a vicious cycle.
The new website format. due to making it with the wordpress tool because I know nothing of programming websites, I used a theme that was optimized for webcomics, but it had some limitations, that couldn't let me change from vertical to horizontal. Now that this is no longer the case, I thought maybe I should try, so I wanted opinions on how the strips look better.
Vertical, which is the typical Japanese 4koma or horizontal that's more comic strip.
Oh, that was part of a joke I never got around explaining. Leslie is terrible for proverbs and stuff. That's why the strip is called Mouth.
But I've been pushing the full explanation and the use of other examples for too long.
If it's not much asking, I hosted at my website ru64yj.com if you please, check it out how it seems on site, because htere's also a right toolbar with stupid gimmicks, but I wanna keep 'em there. If it's not much asking, check it out and give me your thoughts. Lots of people with mobile or tablet devices already told me they zoom to fit the panel on the screen and scroll regarless of the direction, so I'm looking for feedback from people who could see it from a computer.
In my own looks good because it fits without scrolling.
I could use a square distribution, but I'm not sure if that's better than Vertical or Horizontal.
Attempting to make a very attractive Analestian who is also androgynous and embodies both Voshim and Pyros. I'm looking into their fashion and attire for the comic - and I haven't yet found a style I like.
Spoiler because risque.
oh yeah i've been to that site before.. though I don't remember it having a dumb adult filter on it
god i hate those and wish they had never been invented.
okay so, the site.. um.. So here's the thing, the root site gives me blankness galore, but says '0010 - Mouth' at the top. if I click '1' where it says 'page 1 of 11' I can get to 0009, and that is readable okay (though it's in the middle of a VAST page that scrolls off to the right unnecessarily). You need to have that set as a percentage, not an absolute pixel setting. That way it'll look good on any resolution.
The archive page is blank
there's no navigation. CLicking '2' got me to the same 0009 comic, whereas changing the page url to '3' took me to 008. this thing works backwards.
this is a profoundly poorly set up website, m8
OH! No no no, I knew I forgot something! There is a navigation button, but the fucker is hidden, and I can't make it appear on the frontpage.
I'm used to it so I already forgot how painful it is to start reading it when you get there for the first time. My apologies. But without this, I wouldn't have found out these faults. A friend of mine said yesterday the site was ok, and I don't need no hugbox now, I need this kinda feedback.
You have my thanks!
Not sure what to do about that since their skulls aren't exactly proportioned and shaped the way ours are (owing to their birdish heritage)
bird heritage eh? Maybe more of a beak, even a wide beak would look good. at least a normal pointy triangular human nose.
also I'm looking at this diagram and.. I get that it's not a perfect 1 to 1, but it still looks like the nose should be a lot lower and the mouth higher, with that kind of skull structure.
Well, they used to be birds until a Goddess basically decided 'I'm going to shove mammalians bits into this, shrink and push the beak into their skull, give them lips, replace their headfeathers with hair, and pull their eyes forward a bit.'
This is what I envision them having been before Celanos decided to turn them into what're Analestians now. Owing to that... 'very reconstructive surgery' I'm not entirely sure how to show that they were birds once - while also giving them an almost entirely humanoid appearance.
Blackline edit-suggestions will be considered if any are offered.
Well, it these were fun to draw with someone else.
ah, the ol reverse rito. fucking goddesses.
well you could draw the nose out forward like a beak kind of. That's the traditional way to do it. Maybe make eyebrows tufty like owl eyebrows..
I mean they don't have to look birdlike to be attractive.
>ah, the ol reverse rito.
>I mean they don't have to look birdlike to be attractive.
Very true. It's just on my wishlist and I'd like it if I can get it.
"Things I want the Analestians to be"
2: Thin - but not overly so - also somewhat androgynous.
3: Hints of bird still in them but passable-at-a-glance as human, ignoring the wings.
4: No pupils; wildly colored eyes.
I'll try messing around with the face some based on your suggestions and see what turns up. I'm confident there's a way to design them to make it work; just haven't found it yet.
that's a system I can respect.
okay but seriously if he's meant to have a 'fry kid' type body plan, then the rest of that hair should be kinda getting in the way of his legs right? instead it looks like a cape.. eh maybe i need to just see the previous or next page
Started updating again after the holidays. I accidentally left my tablet pen at home so I ended up having to break my update streak. I was SO close to 100 comics worth of uninterrupted updates. Whatever, back on the horse.
Show their good qualities and make their anxiety and awkwardness relatable by showing how it works and showing it in situations most people are in.
Be good enough at drawing pain to make people feel.
>mfw i finally got the balls to show my comics to my friend and told me it was cringe-inducing
got a new sketchbook for the new year and I'm ready to kick some ass. any tips for background training?
And back to storyboarding and thumbnail sketches for Afterdeath. Haven't had to do this kind of layout stuff since I was in college taking Composition 101.
Just keep at it, anon. If just anyone could pick up a pen and make a great comic you'd be making it big already. Acknowledge your mistakes, figure out how to correct them, and keep practicing.
I am in love with your character design. So dang expressive. Wish I was that good with my pencil.
>mfw cleaning my room and glancing slightly at the comics i did during highschool
What is your comic about, senpai?
debating giving a webcomic a shot. drew this in something like ten minutes, excuse the shitty meta-reference
>mfw he's right when he called it cringey
anyways it's about a boy stuck in a video game.
i do that ALL the fucking time.
what's really funny is once i made a joke about my left-handed protagonist being left-handed 'when i remember' (or when it looks cooler) but I was so pleased with myself that I never forgot that, and have been pretty consistent about it since. ruins it.
Awright! I finally managed to make the bottom navigation to disappear, and added the comic navigation on top, so now it's functional, but I had to delete anything hosted before.
Now it's a good time to ask again if I should re-orientate the strips horizontally , or leave them vertically like usual.
Apparently Pyros is bad at insulting people. That is the best insult I could think up, thinking as she thinks.
I hope to have a few more of these pages outlined before tomorrow so that I already know what's coming down the pipe before I get to inking and such.
>anna what the fuck are you doing
>i got a bunch of cotton candy stuck to my crotch and i'm eating it off while filming it for my new documentary: CANDYCROTCH
>you can't put stuff like that on the internet!
>you can if you act like it's about demonizing sugar
Don't start a comic
Nobody wants to read
Don't start a comic
You'll be so disappointed that it was nothing like you planned
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea
I hate to ruin the magic
I hate to kill the dream
But once you've been behind the scenes then you'll know just what I mean
You might think that's its cool to set up a webpage
And make comic books with the funny looks
But no one shows up and your stories all suck
And there's no comments and no donations
No girls will scream for you and no ones gonna give their cash to you
Don't start a comic
Nobody wants to read nobody understands
Don't start a comic
You will be so damn terrible they'll all think your shitty and bland
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea
'cause you wont get paid
And you won't get laid
And even if you make it
With your own Patreon feed
I don't think you could take it
All the bullshit and the greed
Everyone is so fake when they check your site
And they kiss your butt 'cause you're making smut
And the business end will turn every friend
To an enemy oh you will see
They'll turn their their backs and they'll be gone
Faster than can say 'what did I draw wrong'
Don't start a comic
Nobody really cares nobody understands
Don't start a comic
You will sign your life away and then you will be drawing awful porn
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea
Your message will get lost
You will be double crossed
And if you think that the joy of drawing
Will keep you going through the years
Wait 'till you're poor and frustrated
And the fun just disappears
Nobody cares what you have to say
And no one's gonna read it anyways
Webcomicsl will bring you down
And they will kick you while you're on the ground
Don't start a comic
Don't even try you will regret it, yeah
Don't start a comic
You'll be so disappointed that it was nothing like you planned
Don't start a comic
Oh yea yea yea
So just give up now
I'll show you how
Don't start a comic
Don't start a comic
Don't start a comic
Don't start a comic.
Comic about space magicians with swords. real ones not the silly lazer kind like those OTHER space magicians use.
Im inclined to agree, but you just stating this doesn't really point me in a direction to improve.
Dewd please learn to compose.
You have a good aptitude for expressive characters, coloring techniques and other details but the underlying shapes are complete shit and it drags everything down.
I'm not sure if you are or not, but it LOOKs like you just draw outlines freehand without even sketching a workable body shape. The anatomy is fucked up so much of the time, and not in an aesthetically interesting cartoon way, but an ugly rushed way.
he's doing construction, but his ability to draw circles or even lines are about as bad as you'd think
he's getting better though (parallel lines are starting to actually be parallel, hands have all the parts to them, faces aren't melting anymore). And let's face it, lots of popular cartoons are made of random geometric shapes. i'll still take dewd over butch hartman
still, he's gotta keep at it.. keep slowing down and practicing fine control.
I am now stream together pages from 3 separate attempt at rebooting my comic... 1/2
Stringing together? string? derp,
Realized i didn't have any! so i drew some up real quick.
The blades are pretty nice. I'm not fond of the way the straight swords narrow at the hilt, but it's not like the style isn't popular with other people so that's just my >opinion. Maybe make Heather taper more towards the point, so you've got one sword that's fat at the tip and one that's slim and sleek.
I do think the hilts on the straight swords are a bit boringly shaped (and Heather's just seems way too thin compared to the blade), being completely regular all the way down to the pommel. Real life longswords often had grips that vary a lot in the name of ergonomy - maybe something like this could look cool?
PS why is Heather's name the only one in quotes?
i still remember joining cowboy bebop a bit late, seeing Ed, falling in love, then hearing her referred to as Ed
i was like
no way. come on. don't do this to me
and they didn't. thank god
How the hell did valentine even know ed was a girl?
All she did was say at the end of the episode was "Oh! So you are a girl!"
I feel like an inspiration
SNL sketch that was run into the ground. Still funny because julia sweeney. though in retrospect pat could only have been male, because a female pat presents no confusion or ambiguity.
I just assume Faye took a look. I mean she's got those tight bike shorts on, not much to the imagination there
>m inclined to agree, but you just stating this doesn't really point me in a direction to improve.
study how to construct heads. dont just say nyah i wont improve because you haven't spoonfed me answers.
if you can tell that you're lacking in some form it's up to you to think critically on how to improve. don't put that responsibility on anybody else but yourself
>your heads are poorly constructed
>well, what do I do about it?
>construct heads better
If you don't know what's wrong with his heads, keep your mouth shut.
Your criticism needs very basic improvement.
Learn how to critique better.
your greentext is reductive and shows how arrogant you are, kaze.
i clearly said study how to construct heads. not to mention that it's YOUR responsibility as the artist to improve. like i said before, if you agree that construction is something you struggle with, practice it. work to improve what you're weak in. don't get defensive, don't say it's a shitty critique when you agree with it. it's nobody's job but your own to improve.
anyone can be a critic, and your art is full of flaws kaze. don't get so defensive when people call you out on it.
now you're just projecting and samefagging. i have nothing to defend. you're the one who's trying to defend your work and devaluing and form of criticism because of ignorance and arrogance
your work has made incremental improvement in months. like i said several times before, it's nobody's job to help you, except maybe if you go to art school but i really doubt that you do.
you agree that you struggle with construction, but instead of accepting your shortcomings and trying to improve you'd rather argue about the quality of a critique.
maybe if i spell it out for you it'll get through your dense skull: help yourself.
You're talking to the wrong guy. I'm not the artist. Just a guy who's pointing out how retarded your criticism is.
>anyone can be a critic
Sure. And anybody can use a pencil to draw a picture. Some people work at it. Some people are retards who never learn. Criticism is a lot like drawing.
You appear to be one of the retards. One of the dA-tier fuckers who never wants to learn either.
So what do you propose exactly? How was the criticism bad or wrong? Anon is right, you can't expect a critic to give every single answer. At some point the artist has to connect the dots themselves. Continuously using the word retarded to make a point really just does the opposite. You're saying a lot of nothing.
Well you could have told him, for example, what was actually wrong. Like how his jaws are being projected too far back, and his ears were subsequently being displaced too far back.
But then again, that would actually require knowing what you're talking about, and it seems you know as fuckall about art as you do about criticism or rational thought.
realtalk, I study this shit daily thanks,
what i'm, actually amazed at is how i never asked for help?
Whether your "advice" is even relevant is besides the point. You clearly either know nothing helpful worth sharing, or you just refuse to share on the grounds that people like me should help themselves.
In either case, you have no reason to be replying. it doesn't add anything. you're like discarded horse hooves
hm, I never noticed that, thanks.
I think one of the more difficult things is keeping a sense of style in the drawing while still adhering to anatomy.
I know i'm allowed SOME leeway in that regard but i never really know what just looks weird to people vs what i can get away with
Holier than thou types. They really think their own shit don't stink.
It's part of a greater problem on 4chan as a whole. Everybody just bitching about everything without ever actually doing anything themselves. People say it's got something to do with millenial entitlement. Not sure about that, but it wouldn't surprise me either.
Yeah, I know what you mean. You'd like to draw as cartoony as you want to. I'm the same way. But you've got to learn solid, realistic construction very well first, and then when you push boundaries like that, you're aware of it the whole time and can justify it.
Ennui GO! guy here. I'm thinking about doing a new story arc where a bunch of the cast get trapped in a wallmart analogue for a week and it turns into a Lord of the Flies situation.
Idea would be that they go into this big box store the night before it closes down to get deals on crap they don't need. The employees shut the store down for good without realizing that there's a bunch of people still inside because the place is so huge. So there'd be about 15-20 guys in there and the whole thing goes tits-up really fast.
What do you think HYW? Could be entertaining?
it's a strange paradox. you're justified in saying people shouldn't be jerks and shrug off your advice, but the only defense people can come up with for that fact is to praise their advice.. because just saying 'you should listen to people in general' isn't very convincing.
well, realistic construction of SOMETHING. it doesn't have to have anything to do with flesh and blood, but studying how to realistically depict a deforming waterballoon or a solid mechanical/doll joint or a bending pipe, or whatever.. it could be anything. There are a million different kinds of realistic animations you can learn, and it just depends which ones are vital for your characters... but the more you flesh out your setting, the more you need ALL of them
I was thinking, the last time you mentioned wanting to do actual ongoing story arcs in this gaggish comic, that it could work BUT I didn't know what kind of story would work for that.
This one.. sounds perfect. A mixture of real life stuff and over the top exaggeration of fantastic problems
neat stuff as usual. man, seeing him in profile.. that haircut reminds me of a reverse receding hairline.
I don't really understand any of what he's talking about, nor can I see for sure what's going on with his hand, but.. still interested in finding out the next bit
^ me desperately avoiding making actual progress
It's also got an answers box because the post ended in a question and tumblr is weird
>want to alter the premise of a project but already attached to characters enough to feel bad for putting them on the backseat or just deleting them
>need to show my preliminar character designs to some friends to pick the direction of a possible project but can't really draw
What can I do?
whoa, you've got two totally different prablems there. any more and you are at coach Z level. let's fondle them one at a time.
A) think about what you like about those characters. can you really say you can't use something similarly likeable in your new revised premise? If not, what's so goshdarned fantastic about this alteration you're so keen on?
B) you can't let your friends decide for you, but- dagnabbit this is more probs I tell you. This is multiple prawbs. you can't draw yet? Man get to learning to draw first before you worry about picking a direction.
Alright, finally done with this page, took a little while to color.
I need to learn how to bullshit lighting as quickly as you do. it looks like the effectiveness to effort ratio is fantastic. and when it comes to lighting and shading, that's the only kind I'm willing to spend time on
iunno, anyone feel ilke sharing a neat art trick they learned? I know blowing air on ink makes crazygonuts
>A) think about what you like about those characters. can you really say you can't use something similarly likeable in your new revised premise?
I think I can keep most of them, but their arcs would feel rushed as fuck IMO.
Adding more characters could help me get a hold of more themes so that's a plus, but still. A lack of subtlety can easily kill most stories.
>If not, what's so goshdarned fantastic about this alteration you're so keen on?
I'd be switching from a somewhat normal super sentai setting to a more violent one where sentai members are more prone to getting killed than traumatized.
As I'm seeing it, having them get up time and time again would only make the concept of them risking their lives in battle laughable but some of their arcs have points that connect to plot points near the start, the middle and the beginning of my storyline's draft that carried a lot of the ideas I wanted to articulate.
Maybe I just got too attached to them.
>B) you can't let your friends decide for you, but- dagnabbit this is more probs I tell you. This is multiple prawbs. you can't draw yet? Man get to learning to draw first before you worry about picking a direction.
I'm more of a writer but I'm trying to learn because the characters I imagine are too specific to just leave the design to another person.
As for the project, we'd be getting artists and most of us would be writing and doing storyboards along with them if things go as planned, but first we need a "book" of characters.
I can't advise you too much on this, it sounds like a very personal choice, but.. if you have a plot where you are reluctant to kill off characters you attached to, what do you think the audience is going to do? I can understand wanting to do a dark serious story, but you want to have characters that the audience enjoys and that they can trust
most of themwon't be killed off. Otherwise you get like Gundam syndrome going on and nobody cares anymore.
I drank too much tonight.
I'm dying. I can't die before I finish my comic
Maybe I could do that thing Hitchcock did on Psycho, when he made the audience feel alright with the girl dying because everything that could've been said with her was already over, but I mean, I can even see the complaints about that because I can see them coming from myself, y'know?
Even if I splitted the characters into "smaller" ones, it'd be grating to have their arcs "followed" by others and these smaller characters would lose a shitload of gravitas for lacking the time for readers to get to like and understand them.
Shit worries me because that fatality part, that tangible threat, is needed for that gravitas to feel credible.
Plot comes from character is still the best approach to me.
adding some finishing touches to the page before I throw it down.
Not sure if I can call it done, whatcha guys think?
Yeah. One layer for flat colors. One layer for shadows. One layer for highlights and reflected light against the shadows. Manually picked and painted, then blended as needed.
But then I suck. I just haven't found a method I'm better with yet.
also I should mention y'all can find my comic at
and if you wanna see me be a miserable bastard and draw regular things I'm also over at
warning, I'm still figuring out how the hell tumblr layouts work so the comic site's just garbage right now but that's another thing I'm gonna be working on over the next couple days
went back and actually found the damn font I used in page 1
hows this look in comparison?
better spacing, but not as good of a font. might be beter if the letters were more spaced apart from each other (and with that font you dont need thaaat much vertical spae between lines)
I like the new font better. just fix the errors like that other anon said, and shrink and center it to fit inside the bubbles properly
Assuming you're on MS, in my experience, the word bubbles tool in Manga Studio is useful and efficient, but only if used to it's maximum effectiveness.
The word balloons here are too uniform, they're all perfect circles, they're all equal in their ratio to their diameter. It gives the work a sort of "lifelessness"
Craig, I know your art deserves better than that, variety is the spice of life, and thus your word balloons should reflect that. You're better off making your own word balloons with the pen tool on a separate layer, and filling them in with white. This also gives you the chance to add a little personality to the word balloons that reflects the emotion and tone of the character speaking.
Font is looking great by the way. Not sure how I feel about the font in the caption though (panel 2), unless it's a character speaking off screen, I feel like a harder, more "official" font would work better there.
on the left you see an ape profile
on the right is a human profile
How would you guys feel if I did a short batman comic?
Just like a one off thing?