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>Upcoming Releases:
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>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw


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>Star Wars: Uprising: (/swr/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
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>Canon Guide: (Timeline coming soon)
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

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>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya
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>>78586324
FIRST FOR LOYALTY!
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Would Ben actually like his gramps if he actually knew him?
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>>78586350
The greatest soldier a military order could ever wish for. He's also getting a figure made. You're gonna get him aren't you anons, you wouldn't want to be a traitor would you?
http://toyland.gizmodo.com/the-internets-favorite-force-awakens-stormtrooper-is-ge-1750502517?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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>>78586379

He'll lose all faith once he sees the NOOOOO scene
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>>78586350
Ren?
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>>78586379
>sith lords liking other sith lords
That's not how its supposed to work.
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>>78586379
Probably not, which is part of why I find his hero worship so awesome.
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>The Moomo Brothers will never bounty hunt you

Why live?
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>>78586417
Kylo isn't a Sith, so no problem there.
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>>78586324
why didnt they buy her freedom after the war? they had a princess to help them, and Anakin did help save the day
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>>78586518
Did you not watch AOTC, anon?
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>>78586534
Or ROTS, for that matter, which shows another reason why that might not have happened at the end of the Clone Wars.
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>>78586534
He meant after the battle of Naboo.
Not the war.
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>>78586534
i know, but i meant why didnt they go back for her right after the Naboo battle?
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>>78586324
>Just rewatched Episode I
>Thought how smokin Shmi was
>Watch Liam and her actresses bedroom eyes in their scenes.

They was banging.

>>78586518
My guess? Watto wouldn't sell. He lost everything after Boonta Eve, and he refused to sell both before.

And I'm sure old Sheev had a hand in it.
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>>78586292

They might pull it off. Now you'd need a Flash and a Ming that wouldn't cause a shitstorm.
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>>78586324

It's a shame this show is gonna get cancelled after Season 3.

We're almost done with Season 2 and this show still hasn't picked up steam.
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Any rec reading for Darth Maul, pham?
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>>78586484
Seriously was there anything about the KOTOR comics that wasn't good?
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>>78586629
Yeah I can kind of see it ending prematurely. Though I wouldn't really mind it since 1: the creators would know 'hey Disney is going to cancel this show in a season so lets go ahead and resolve the story' so it probably wouldn't end like TCW did, and 2: Disney would probably make them produce a grittier show in the vein of TCW set around the ST (which is what I want because I'm tired of seeing OT shit).
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>>78586713
The only thing I can think of was the Son of Dathomir comics set after season 5 of the clone wars. Maul is featured now and then in the Darth Plageius book as well
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>>78586350
All of your loyal friends are dead
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>>78586605
Ming is a tough one, as there aren't many well-known asian actors in the right age (who are still alive...). Jackie Chan, maybe?

Flash Gordon is an easier fit. You'd need someone (relatively) young and optimistic, who can go hardass without coming across as too evil. He also can't be a muscle slab ,either. DiCaprio, maybe?
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>>78586762
The show is perfect for the typical viewer of Disney XD, they wouldn't get rid of it for it being "bad" to adults. I very much doubt Disney would have them do something grittier for the ST on one of it's channels. The problem with that is, it would take well over a year to even see the show because new assets need to be made, new voice actors brought in, story decided and what not. By then we will have Episode 8 and that might answer some time skip questions, for all we know.
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https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/682745067392471040

So that vision scene with Kylo and the other Knights isn't where he rekts the Jedi
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>>78587008
>Ahch-To is the official name of the planet
Fucking bullshit. They should have done Rakata Prime, it would have been so much better.
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>>78586777
Fucking pleb.

>>78586713
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter is GOAT.
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>>78587008

>planet is named "atchoo"

BRAVO DISNEY
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>>78587108
How do you even pronounce that anyway?
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>>78586350
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>>78587165
Octo
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>>78587167
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>>78587165
Like this
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>>78587008
>Ahch-To
>Act Two

Brilliant
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>>78587211
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>>78586518
Well Jedi aren't supposed to have connections to their parents, so no one like Qui Gon was going to go back to get her. Certainly the council would've put their foot down if he tried. Then as sorry as Padme may have felt for them she probably didn't feel any need to go around freeing slaves on the outer rim.
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>>78586824
>there aren't many well-known asian actors in the right age

Are you fucking joking or do you just not watch movies or television?
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Whose the masked man for Kallus? Is it Kanan or Ezra?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ZrjocXVJ4

What if teh rey spoke in an American accent
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>>78587165
Awk-tow?
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>>78586324
>he used the force to bust a nut in her

Based Plagueis
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>>78587259
Kallus, you can't even hold a candle to CIA, at least he got his man, for the short time that he had him.
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>>78586824

DiCapio or Arnie hammer would work though you know they'll pick channing Tatum or jacob from twilight for the muscle.

For ming it would depend if we stick to older or take a risk with a younger actor. If older I'd go with Jackie, Donnie Yen or Min-sik Choi. Younger I'd go with Ji-tae Yu and Byung-hun Lee because they were intimidating as hell in Oldboy and I saw the Devil.
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>>78587350
Which character is she?
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>>78587536
>not remembering how Kallus briefly had Ezra in captivity in the first episode, and helped catch Kanan
If I pulled this comparison off, would you die?
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>>78586379
>BEN, I'VE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP!
>BEN, HELP ME STOP THE BEEPING
>BEN, SCRATCH MY NOSE

A lot of this would happen.
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>>78586379
Heh, glad to see that got done.
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>>78586324
Rey's Great-Grandma! Too bad Great-Grandpa Qui-Gon didn't survive.
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>>78587668
It would be extremely lore breaking.
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>>78587668
Wow he is kinda like CIA, in the fact he lost his man and let the fire rise. I stand corrected.
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>>78587259
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>>78586818
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>>78587780

>Lord Vader, I'm 128th
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>>78586577
Freeing "all the slaves" sounds easier than it is. It's legal on tatooine, and watto ain't gonna go cheap at that point in time. The Jedi aren't going to start an illegal uprising on a sovereign world, it's not the clone wars just yet. And they aren't going to force anybody to pay tens or hundreds of thousands of credits to buy her from a desperate and scorned watto. People need to remember, Lucas wrote 1-3 like you'd do far an rpg setting. You have to look at it like a functioning setting, not just a movie, or you'll go fucking insane trying rationalize what's going on. Now whether or not that was a good idea is another issue entirely. I'm an elder scrolls fanboy, so that shit is my bread and butter.
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>>78587772
No survivors.
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>>78587806
>Not
>Lord Vader, I'm SE-IA
or
>Lord Vader, I'm 2BG-4U
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Luke dies in Episode VIII and Rey kills Kylo in IX
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>>78587866
Or even just 'UUUU'
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>>78587825
Why not buy a cut out to kidnap Shmi? Surely there is tec to disable the bomb on her neck (or wherever it is, her vagina right?), and outlaws that would accept a big, but still small amount compared to buying her release.

All I'm saying is, Anikin as a hothead would not just let this go as long as there is some way to get her to safety
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>>78586518
I've been wondering that for a long time. The Jedi, I imagine, wouldn't do anything - though Qui-Gon would most likely have if he'd survived Naboo. Padme, however, should have told her people about the brave and generous woman from Naboo who let their queen into her home, fed her for free, and risked her own son to raise the money to fix their starship so she could continue her mission to Coruscant. The woman they ultimately left alone, except for a naked droid, after they took her son away.

When I asked TCW threads the general response is Padme was a bitch. Hard to argue against, really. She didn't even have to use her own money, she could have started a fundraiser for the woman who, along with her magic son, saved their world. Probably did and used the money to buy herself a cozy senate seat.
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>>78587866

he wouldn't be identifying himself with his serial number, he identifies himself with his unit name youst like CIA dumbass
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>>78587884
nah, kylo turns good in IX and heroically sacrifices himself
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>>78587630
The one who's speaking the whole time. The main gril
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>>78587921
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>>78588007
Okee day
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>>78587911
He was 9 years old, remember. In his mind, he'd return when he was done with Jedi training and free her and the other slaves, only doing so when he "knew" he was able to. If he tried and failed she'd likely be punished.
And like I fucking said;
>The Jedi aren't going to start an illegal uprising on a sovereign world, it's not the clone wars just yet
That includes paying someone to do the dirty work.
>All I'm saying is, Anikin as a hothead would not just let this go as long as there is some way to get her to safety
And that's exactly what he did, and well before he was done with his training no less. It was a risk from his own perspective even with all he learned.
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The Midichlorians are actually kind of brilliant. I mean, I'm sure George didn't actually plan it this way, but it shows just how militaristic the Jedi had become and how far gone they were from being mystical peace keepers.

Instead of a demonstration of skill, they'd rather take a blood test to see "how Jedi" a kid was, which the Clone Wars revealed didn't really actually show anything.
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>>78588013
I think Chancellor Palpatine is a Big Guy.
A, Big, Guy?

Anakin. I told you it would come to this. I was right. The Hotheads are taking over!!
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>>78588181
Or it was just a retarded way to insert power levels.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jason-wingreen-dead-all-family-851697

RIP
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>>78588280
>poetry the sci-fi series
>disliking something symbolic and telling for the state of a group, for being retarded when looked at head on
You sure you're in the right thread, friend?
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>>78588280
There's no indication that Qui-Gon considered this a test of power, or even power potential. The Council sure as hell didn't because they still tested the boy using flash cards like the early scene in Ghostbusters.

The midi-chlorian test seemed like it was done by Qui-Gon more to show that the boy did indeed have something very strange about the kid. If anything it supported the "vergence in the Force" element if THAT many midi-chlorians were saturated through his body.
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>>78588406
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>>78587259
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>Say nice things about the Prequel Trilogy
>Hard Mode: Besides General Grievous
Looking back at the whole "Jedis can't love and must be unattached" rule established in the Prequel Trilogy makes me like Luke Skywalker more.
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>>78588406

Shame, but a good age. RIP.
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>>78587560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3H1l-o8RM
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>>78588406
He died at a good age. But damn
Year just started and there's already marks on the board
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>>78588521
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>>78588483
I think midichlorians are more like IQ. Its an interesting metric that could show a persons potential, but ultimately doesn't mean much.
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>>78588601
That droid is a more convincing villain than Kylo Ren.

Somebody had to say it.
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>>78588533
Why did the order even make that rule?
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>>78587676
AHHHH MY BONE MARROW
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>>78588662
Focus and stuff, you're meant to be concentrating on keeping the peace and meditating. It's hard to do that when you're worried about your wife and kids... As you saw with Anakin that can lead to trouble.
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>>78588662
Attachment is shown to be a very big weak point for Jedi, both in the movies and in TCW. It's what helps Anakin down his path, because of his mother, Padme and a lesser extent Ahsoka. Obi-Wan with Satine as well, even though there was nothing full blown about them together.
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>>78588662
Because having a significant other makes you biased and clouds your judgement. There's a difference between love and compassion that Anakin never understood.
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>>78588406
Death is a natural part of life.
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>>78588725
To add, Luke and his attachment to Leia is what drew him out in Episode VI. It's really the same reason capes have secret identities and junk.
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>>78588725
And attachment is what makes him kill the emperor. It's a 2-way door.

(different anon)
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>>78588601
I always liked how the engineers outfit consists of nothing but a shitty helmet and coveralls
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>>78587445
Somebody give that happy father a cigar
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>>78588829
That helmet makes him more aerodynamic chum.
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so I don't know any EU but KOTOR is obviously Old Republic and 4 thousand~ years before the movies, was there a fall and rebirth in that time or was Palpatine the first to fuck it bc goddamn is 4000 years a long time
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>>78588601
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In A New Hope, why was Luke so fond of Obi-Wan if he only met him barely a day ago? And when he dies he gets all shocked and we are suppose to care about him why? We didn't knew almost anything about him
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>>78588857
Four thousand... that's like 4 times a thousand.

We will wait for Half Life 3 less than that... right?
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>>78588915
He was a good friend.
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>>78588915
Well he was training him to become a Jedi, he was a key his past and a good friend.
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>>78588915
He was really impressed by the man. He treated Luke super nice, taught him about the Force and gave him a lightsaber, the two things that connects him to his father he never saw. He also saved Luke's life a few times.

Don't ask that again.
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>>78588915
He was a good friend.
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>>78588857
Did you play KotOR II? The Jedi were nearly driven to the point of extinction in that game.
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>>78588662
A large amount of it is their spiritual philosophy. They believe that the Jedi should eschew personal wants and desire and devote their entirety to their mission of preserving the peace for the galaxy. They dedicate their lives to others, sacrificing much of their personal lives instead. It isn't to say that the Jedi frown on love. They just want it in the general sense. A love of your fellow sentients.

It also has a practical purpose. Attachments, deep connections between two beings, while a grand and lofty thing to be appreciated, is also a fairly strong path to the Dark Side besides being a distraction from their overall goal (and we saw Anakin distracted more than once when his friends or especially Padme was threatened). The problem with the Dark Side is that when a personal love is threatened it risks the emotional integrity of the Jedi. Anakin is an extreme example of this, but his passions ran deep.

Some perspective. A very good reason to keep padawans from forming attachments is imagine what Jedi highschool would be like.

>"Tee'Qa no longer wishes to attach at the hips anymore. She's going with Bee-rad now because he has a higher midi-chlorian count, a shiny sports speeder, and also a greater saber blade width. The world is pain and misery. I'm off to Hutt Topic to buy a red lightsaber crystal and stick-on Sith tats, then I'll show them all!"

Emo and Force powers are a bad combination.

Adult's aren't entirely immune to this. Obi-Wan was tested hard when Maul killed Satine. It's a key mark of his character that he had the willpower to control his emotions and didn't go full-Anakin, as Maul had hoped. Obi-Wan remained true to the Jedi ways, but it took a supreme level of control and ability. Still the fact that he was on Mandalore at all just because of Satine illustrates the problem since the Jedi and Republic refused to intervene.
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>>78588915
He claims he knew his father. He taught him while they were on the falcon. First time they actually met Obi Wan saved his ass from the Tusken Raiders. He was there when he came home to the burning ruins of his uncle's house and their smoking corpses. He chopped that one guy's hand off when he threatened Luke.

Even though it is never specifically spelt out, the moment Luke's family dies Obi Wan instantly becomes the most important person in Luke's life. With his family's death there is nothing to hold him back from pursuing his dreams of joining the rebellion. Obviously Obi Wan is also the right guy to help with that since the Rebels came to him out of all people and asked for his help. And as I mentioned he is the only connection Luke has to his old home and even his own father at that point, even though Obi Wan is somewhat cryptic about what he tells Luke.
Still, it stands to reason he'd be distraught when he died.
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>>78589040
Is it that hard to assume that the Jedi code was perhaps... wrong? Yoda is no god, old as he was, he was only a creature, and creatures are prone to being wrong.
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>>78588988

Not yet but I'm talking about the Republic itself.

Play/Finish/replay the games seems the answer which is fair play
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>>78589040
>"Tee'Qa no longer wishes to attach at the hips anymore. She's going with Bee-rad now because he has a higher midi-chlorian count, a shiny sports speeder, and also a greater saber blade width. The world is pain and misery. I'm off to Hutt Topic to buy a red lightsaber crystal and stick-on Sith tats, then I'll show them all!"
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>>78587914
she also condones the murder of Tuskin children, but when it comes to civilized Jedi kids, thats too far
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>>78589142
We've been through this already. Tusken Raider's aren't people. That includes women and children. They don't become part of the Force when they die, so nothing of value is lost.
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>>78589040
>>78589129
And that's the origin of Kylo Ren.
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>>78588915
wait he meets him for the first time?

Luke also seems relative aware of what is going on, and he probably heard of obi wan
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>>78588662
There is a practical consideration. Although the KOTOR Era is non-canon these days they illustrate the problem of Force Dynasties. We know the Force runs strong in families. The Jedi give up their family in favor of the Order. This helps free the Council from the potential bullshit politics of powerful Force families clinging to seats/rule over generations. They don't want people dedicated and loyal to anything but the Order itself.

Otherwise the Jedi are surprisingly lenient about "rogues", people who don't always listen to the Council but follow their conscience and the Force. As long as you don't break any major rules or go Dark Side, and continue to act in ways the Jedi Council can understand, even if they don't sanction or necessarily appreciate, they nevertheless tolerate you. Seems like the idea of attachments fostering outside loyalties and especially distractions from the Jedi path that is their key reason for "excommunicating" people. The can tolerate a LOT of shit, especially to Council Members. Consider Qui-Gon and his "just trust me" fuckups. Dude got Jedi killed and was stuck with probation (more, no doubt, to keep an eye on him) but even Depa Billaba still seems to have something dark in her past. Or maybe just traumatic. They're still being kind of coy on the matter.
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>>78588406
I'll never look at that episode the same way again.

It already hits close to home.
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Some of the problems people seem to have in Ep 7 is that it have a lack of new or interesting planets. Which kind do you want to see in the sequel? I mean there are no a lot of options right? I always thought the planets in the PT looked stupid
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>>78589105
The way I see it, the Jedi code's is something of a necessity. In a perfect world you could let Jedi have lovers because they would have strong enough training that it wouldn't interfere with their role as galactic peacekeepers. However, the Jedi have to train thousands of sentient beings to cover the entire galaxy so a standardized set of simplified rules was put in order. Easier to just say, no attachments then allow some attachments and constantly having to deal with Jedi that can't handle them.
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>>78589105
In the end of TCW, Yoda is explicitely told by force creatures far more powerful than him that his PoV is small and limited, and ultimately incorrect.
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>>78588533
The fight against Darth Maul was pretty swag. Also, I've come to develop a fascination with Count Dooku and his fighting style.
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>>78589105
well it worked for thousands of years

In any case i'm glad Luke is now a traditional bearded jedi master, and not some new age hippy jedi fucker like in the old EU
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>>78589220
Jungle planet, with exotic wildlife. And I don't mean colorful, I mean strange and unsettling, like that trash monster Wampas, the Fucking Space Slug, Mynocks or the thing that tried to eat R2
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>>78589220
>I always thought the planets in the PT looked stupid

And then there's this faggot.
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>>78589220
>I always thought the planets in the PT looked stupid
I disagree. Which ones?

>>78589228
Makashi top tier.
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>>78588915
If you think about it, TCW made a lot of stupid shit. Like Anaking talking to Qui Jinn ghost or Obi-Wan meeting his ghost when in EpIII he acted surprised to hear from Yoda about him. Sure its interesting but it makes a lot of things to make less sense.
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>>78589220
I want to see another city planet, and actually see it for more than a minute. Whether it's Garel, Corusant, Nar Shaddaa or some new place akin to Hosnian Prime I don't care.
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>>78589223
Really? Who were those aliens
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>>78589220
At first I disliked Jakku because it seemed like Tatooine 2.0 but on rewatching the film I really liked how it was a graveyard for classic SW vehicles

Just wish those derelicts were burried in something other than sand dunes
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>>78589313
In TCW Anakin or Obi-Wan didn't believe they were actually speaking to Qui-Gon Jinn. Neither did Yoda until he had his own encounter with Qui-Gon.
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>>78589313
Maybe he got force amnesia.
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>>78589313
TCW occurs parallel to EP3 and after as well.
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>>78589265
>implying you can draw conclusions about his new Jedi Order based on his facial hair

Dude. He might have been the 'hippy jedi fucker' once, which could be why the second purge happened.
Or maybe it's the other way around. We'll know when the next movie comes around I guess.
I doubt they'll touch the important stuff in comics or novels, while they are not done with the arc in the films yet.
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>>78589327
Corellia would be nice if it didn't get blown up
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>>78589105
The Jedi Code isn't perfect, nothing is, but it was time tested. It wasn't their Code that brought them down, it was Sidious' manipulations, and Anakin's secret attachment. It's not even the fact that it was secret that was the problem. If his marriage had been open the Jedi still would have advised him to accept her potential death and rejoice that she becomes one with the Force. Anakin STILL wouldn't have been able to accept and Sheev could still have used saving her as a hook into Anakin.

The "no attachments" rule is actually a pretty savvy admission on the nature of sentient beings. We form deep bonds to individuals but when those bonds are at risk we typically suffer greatly on an emotional level. If you are Force Sensitive this kind of instability is very dangerous. Sadly everything from from your wife being at risk of dying to your child to your best friend can be a threat to yourself. The kind of self-control Obi-Wan showed is admirable because of how difficult that would be in such a situation.
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>>78589358
Only if it were to continue past the episodes we got. All of the released ones are before ROTS.
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>>78589344
Force ghosts, pretty much, from various force user traditions older than the jedi. He even had a chat with Darth Bane. PT Yoda was immensely close-minded and dogmatic, so they sent him on a round trip to show him that the Jedi, for all their power, are very small fish in the galaxy and don't have all the answers, no matter how much they think they do.
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>>78589358
What? What episodes?
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>>78589387
There's no other way to say this really than: I'm sorry, you're just flat out wrong.
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>>78589442
Name one episode that takes places parallel/after ROTS.
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>>78589313
also this
>>78589289
Which makes their duel in 3 lose impact because for Lucasin the script they were cleary not not supposed to have fought since Geonosis, since all of their dialogue references episode 2.
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>>78589313
Its stated many times that Obi Wan did not believe Qui gon was real
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>>78589442
based retard
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>>78589411
Mostly season 6, where they do wraps-up of things they really wanted to do but no longer could due to cancellation. They time-jump around quite a bit there.
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>>78589482
All Anakin says is that his power has doubled since the last time they met. Sure, at the time it could have been referencing Episode 2, but since we know they met multiple times during the Clone War that line is not incorrect.
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>>78589408
But i think Darth bane isn't Canon anymore
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>>78589220

Raxis prime, the junk planet from force unleashed and Felucia. Planets that are not only wildly varied but dangerous as hell. Something like cloud city.
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>>78589523
I think you need to watch the last arc of TCW.
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>>78589220
Its not just the planet ecology its also the inhabited places on the planet. The Jakku salvager place didn't look too different from the tatooine you saw in Hope. I mean somehow PT Tatooine managed to look less like Tatooine than Jakku did. Then Maz's castle looked neat on the outside, but the inside was just a mash up of Jaba's palace and the Mos Eisley cantina, and apparently Leia dug up old rebel base plans because that was similar too.

I actually wouldn't mind going back to old planets just as long as we got to see different parts of them, or how they've changed over the decades.
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>>78589509
You're a damn fool. No episode in Season 6 takes place concurrent/after ROTS. Season 6 was made up of the finished episodes they already had before Disney cancelled them.

>>78589523
Darth Bane is canon. Yoda goes to his tomb in S6.
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>>78589482
>>78589513

In Addition Every time they fight in Clone wars Dooku Kicks Anakin's ass (Interesting Anakin always dose a little better, and dooku always dose a little worse, his age clearly catching up with him)
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>>78589523

I didn't even watch TCW and I know better than this
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>>78589509
NONE of them occur during or after RoTS.

>>78589513
I get that it fits, but it just cheapens the "movie moment" in episode 3.
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>>78589565
Tell me about Darth Bane why dose he wear the mask?
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>>78589557
>Endor has skyscraper sized chunks of the death star II in it
>all the treehouses are rotting because the first order rolled through and exterminated the ewoks when Kylo picked up his papa's mask
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>>78589588
Not if it you look at it as Dookus age finally catching up with him
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>>78589601

nobody knew who he was until he put on the mask
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>Early artwork of Rey was modeled after Kristen Stewart

Oh, imagine the possibilities...
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>>78589611
10/10 would watch a side movie of.
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>>78589565
Why did they turn him into a Vader clone?
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>>78589668
MouthBreathing.jpg
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>>78589611
That's pretty cool.

>>78589668
Really? Got any of that artwork? Cause I don't recall anything looking like her.
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>>78589692
Cause we Samurai now.
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>>78589668
>Kristen Stewart

another dodged bullet there
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>>78589692
They gave him samurai armor to homage vaders orgin
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>>78589692
Lorewise, it's to imply that Vaders look and outfit were in fact part of a sith tradition of dress stretching back millenia. For the average viewer, it makes it clear this guy is a sith lord through visual means, and makes him look cool.
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>>78588662
Probably to avoid getting the people they care for killed or used against them.

But the thing is they end up being more callous and cold that way.

Like when Yoda and Obi-Wan insist on keeping Luke on Dagobah instead of saving his friends.

It makes sense for them (and fits their characters) to say that sure but it also adds more humanity to Luke when he goes to save them anyway.
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>>78589718
>Cause we Samurai now
Er... the Jedi kind of always were like that.

And Vader's armor was also not too subtle about it.
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>>78589223
>you actually watched all of TCW
Respect.
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>>78589718
>>78589736
>>78589743
They should have just used his orbalisk armor
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>>78589707
well now, look at that
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>>78589773
cause it would of looked like shit in cg
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>>78589749
Filthy casual.

Seriously though, there are only a handful of really bad filler episodes, but even then those are only 20 minutes.
I don't get how people get so ridiculously worked up over whatching the entire series. It's not that long actually.
If you'd spent the time of the day you are scrolling through facebook watching TCW you'd be through pretty quick.
That aside even the worst bits are not as bad as some people here would have you believe.
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>>78589634
>not if you make shit up!1!1

I get that it technically fits, but at the time he wrote the script, Lucas clearly intended it to be the first time since episode 2 (don't even try to argue this), since TCW was made after the saga they (including George's revisionist self) should have thought to not cheapen that scene.
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Does anyone else agree that Kylo Ren's design looks ten times better without the damn hood?
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>>78589565
Revan was supposed to be in that scene too wasn't he?
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>>78589668
That explains the blandness
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>>78588533
The prequels had an interesting universe with a lot of potential that was somewhat wasted in the prequels themselves but used very well later in The Clone Wars.
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>>78589821
Tbh I think TCW is vastly superior to the PT in every single way.
And they are just as much official in terms of canon as the movies.
Hell, I wish the CW team had been able to remake the PT as multi episode arcs. That would have been awesome.
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>>78589821
There's no way to cheapen that scene. It already is cheap in its waste of Dooku.
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>>78589863

no, I actually prefer the hood
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>>78589883
>Tbh I think TCW is vastly superior to the PT in every single way
GOD DAMN I vehemently disagree.
But to each their own. I don't feel like arguing.
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>>78589668
So they new they were making a mary sue right from the start
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>>78589895
'no'

>>78589921
>inb4 dogpile
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>>78589903
I agree, it completes the out fit. Also it adds to his edgelord character which I love.
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>>78589863
just not as distinctive as Vader's

I really want to see the other Knights of Ren, though i'm pretty sure Snoke said that they were all dead so here's hoping we get them in an illustrated guide or something
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>>78588533
Darth Maul fight was awesome, and easily the best music of the prequel trilogy, and maybe all the movies.
The Pod Racing, while rather tedious when watching provided a kick ass video game.

Clones had a cool design for the water planet's aliens and their facility for the clones.

Sith had... nice raves?
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>>78589872
Revan was supposed to be on Mortis in S3, along with Darth Bane. However, both were cut from the episode because of the implication of the Sith could talk to the Son by separating themselves from the Force.

http://www.starwars.com/video/ghosts-of-mortis-episode-featurette
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>>78589863
What's he gonna wear now? His mask is gone and now he actually has a need for one.
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>>78589951

when did he say that?
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>>78589863
I think I prefer the Hood more.
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>>78589883
>Tbh I think TCW is vastly superior to the PT in every single way.
Its not very fair to compare 3 movies to 5 seasons of a TV series.
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>>78589863
I think it's fine either way as long as he keeps the cloak itself on
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>OT has sort of a love triangle between Luke, Leia and Han
>New Trilogy is remaking the OT
>There will be a Poe, Finn and Rey love triangle
>Because none of them are related it'll be even more overt than the OT's triangle was
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>>78589967
Maybe an even more Revan looking one. The whole point of the mask was to ape Vader, maybe with him "finishing his training" he'll not wear one at all finally finding his own face.
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>>78589872
Nope Revan would've appeared in the Mortis arc with Bane in his retarded Orbalisk Armor>>78589810, but they were cut because Sith cant become Force Spirits so it wouldn't have fit


>>78589883
>Hell, I wish the CW team had been able to remake the PT as multi episode arcs. That would have been awesome.
That would never have happened and desu RotS feels like an extension of TCW now.
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>>78589967

probably a more vader mask, or no mask at all which is what I want to see, that way he'll be more like grandad when he was killing the jedi
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>>78590025
I wpuldn't say are remaking it cuase Rey hasn't Poe....yet. Finn obviously likes her and in the future Rey could too.
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>>78589611
What if he didn't bring the FO with him though? What if it wasn't even Kylo that got the mask, but it was Snoke?
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Why did Kylo turn to the dark side? Leia says he has too much Vader in him but the main reason Anakin turned was to protect his family even if his intentions were incredibly misguided. Kylo abandoned his family so obviously his reasons weren't the same as Anakin.

I highly doubt he would have just one day out of the blue decide to slaughter his classmates and join Snoke so what did cause him to turn?
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>>78590057
>inb4 he puts on Vader's burnt mask, and everyone in the order is too embarrassed for him to say anything about it
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>>78590057
>that way he'll be more like grandad when he was killing the jedi
Well there be a final battle on a volcanic planet that's very long and drawn out?
Will he lose to the high ground?
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>>78590094
>what caused him to turn
something Snork said or did lured him to the dark side, that's all we know.
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>>78590113
I wish. Memes aside, I love episode 3's final fight. The high ground double entendre (moral and physical) is actually interesting.
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>>78590113

Luke is a disciple of Obi-Wan

if he does train Rey, the high ground will be with her, always...
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>>78590097
>Now I am Vader.
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>>78590094
Daily reminder neither Leia nor Luke actually knew Vader before he was Vader, just as Vader.
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>>78590094
>nobody understand what I'm going through, ughh
Literally Ren's entire character motivation.

I think I read in the novelization Leia says that Snoke had been targeting him from the beginning, and that's why she sent him to be with Luke, to protect him.
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>>78590094
>Anakin turned was to protect his family even if his intentions were incredibly misguided
That wasn't the only reason. He also thought the Republic didn't work and people should be forced to solve problems by an Empire. Based on Hux' speech the entire First Order vehemently defends the idea that an Empire is perfect and a Republic is a failure. He probably saw senators doing fuck all to help people after the war and that along with Snoke grooming him made him want to bring back the Empire.
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>>78590094
Power of the Dark Side seduced him
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I just saw some episodes of TCW. Yoda fighting Sidious while saving Anakin, Anakin getting owned by sidious. And a lot of other stuff. Its like in Ep III everyone forgot what happened in those 6 seasons
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>>78590134
>>78590172
How the hell did Snoke get into contact with Kylo if Luke was supposed to be watching him?
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>>78590208
That was all a force vision brought on by Sheev in order to corrupt Yoda.
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>>78590180
The fact that the Republic did nothing while the FO built another super weapon right under their nose proves he's right
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>>78590139
>>78590143
>Yfw remix of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1t2mBkykA
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>>78590210
I don't know, lets use our time machine to look into the future and find out.
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>>78589220
The problem with having new and crazy looking planets in the movie is that they would look bad with all the CGI.
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>>78590234
>empire policy operates on "third time's the charm" logic
>republic is incapable of doing basic shit

Why bother with either?
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>have a bombing mission
>send only multi-purpose fighters instead of dedicated bombers with fighter escorts

What happened to all the other space ships?
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>>78590210
I thought Ren actively went out to look into the dark side and found Snoke who basically lured him in with the promise of force candy
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>>78590234
It's kid of funny how Hux goes on a tangeant about how the Republic has been stopping the FO from doing things and being their worst enemy when they pretty much build bigger Death Star without ANYONE knowing
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>>78590247
CGI=/=bad
go back to /tv/
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So I just finished reading Lost Stars. What a ride that was. I really wasn't expecting to like it so much. Even though it ended well, I wanted a happier ending for Thane and Ciena
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>>78590300
bad writing
the force

pick 1
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>>78590300
That's basically their only fleets. The Resistance is basically a terrorist cell
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>>78590315
Oh they knew, they just didn't care
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>>78590359
That's not in the movie.
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>>78589523

Bane's presence in TCW ensures his canonicity. His story just becomes more dubious.
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>>78590380
BANE?
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>>78590375
Hey I'm just telling you what I read in an art book, it's not my fault JJ left it out
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>>78590300

my headcanon explains it with this: >>78590359

I'm more concerned with the FO only having two variants of TIEs, and the way I see this Trilogy progressing, I'm afraid we won't see a huge epic space battle, which sucks major dick
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>>78590045
That's so stupid why did Lucas make so they can't become force ghosts?
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>>78590409
I forgive you... this time.
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why ;_;
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>>78590409
He didn't. It was obvious.
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>>78590315
>without ANYONE knowing
That's the joy of Unknown Regions, not explored in the slightest, so there are no monitoring ships, probes or what not to keep an eye on anything, The Resistance had to send Snap to the coordinates of the Starkiller that they got from Finn to even know that it was there for certain.
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>>78590430
she was too qt for this galaxy.
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>>78590423
Because then you'd ask 'why doesn't Mace Windu or any other Jedi appear to Luke in the OT?'
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>>78590440
I got it from the movie but some people need that extra push
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>>78590423
I think Yoda says something about Sith being too tied to the physical realm to become force ghosts.
Its kind of a nice irony that those most desperate for immortality are barred from it.
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I want to marry Phasma
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>>78590440
kill yourself JJ
context is important
The crawl stated information but doesn't explain why any of this shit is the way it is when RoTJ ended the way it did.
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>>78590430
>relegated to a background character

Filoni just hates us and loves only his waifu
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>>78589717
It's from /Film's article about changes during production of THE FORCE AWAKENS.

http://www.slashfilm.com/force-awakens-changes/

>Rey was originally "Kira", a hotheaded mechanic who worked repairing old spaceships alongside her surrogate father, an old Republic pilot, among them the Millennium Falcon. She was desperate to leave Jakku and already displayed Force-sensitivity, improving on her abilities with Luke Skywalker's guidance.

>Finn was originally "Sam", a charismatic former Stormtrooper who is an expert marksman and nature-born leader with a history of insubordination leading up to his defection upon witnessing a group of captive Rebels being airlocked out of the Star Destroyer. He was white.

>Poe Dameron was originally "John Doe", who was originally a Jedi, then a bounty hunter with a Wookie sidekick, then a military man affiliated with the Resistance. He'd die in the TIE Fighter crash. He was black.

>Kylo Ren was originally "The Jedi Killer", Darth Vader's apprentice trained to slaughter Jedis and obsessed with killing Luke. At different points he feeded off of sun matter and had a torture droid as a companion.

>Starkiller Base was originally "The Doom Star", built on planet Dantooine, built inside a volcano and powered by geotermal energy.

>John Doe simply ditches Sam in the desert after he escapes, and Sam runs into an indigenous tribe that performs a ritual to heal his wounds so he's "reborn a hero".

>Maz Kanata was originally the leader of the indigenous tribe on Jakku, then the owner of a bar on "Crime City" where the heroes find Han Solo. She was also supposed to a puppet.

>Rey would originally retrieve the map to Luke's whereabouts from the submerged remains of the Death Star using the Millennium Falcon and her scavenging abilities.
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>>78590300
Resistance only has X-Wings because it was formed from the ground up with Leia. They were even poorer than the Rebellion was, and they could only afford crap X-Wings (T-70s) while the NR had the latest model (T-80 or so). The rest they had to build from scrap parts or they got as pity donations from Senators with ships to spare. The entire NR fleet got destroyed around Hosnian Prime, so all the bombers they may have had to send emergency help to the Resistance were blown up.
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>>78590423
The Sith can't live after death. They strive for immortality but have never achieved it. They are captivated by the physical realm.

The only ones who have are the Jedi, starting with Qui-Gon, who was learning from the Force Priestesses.
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>>78590464
hello reddit
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>>78590464
Kinda shows me they don't watch the news at all. The setup of TFA is bog-standard resistence fighters by proxy. Of course they don't have state of the art ships and crap. We're going to see those later, when larger militaries come into play.
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>>78590477
I do too, hope she gets more play in the next moviePhasmaphag till I die
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>>78590421
>No more Infiltrators
>No more Bombers
>No more Interceptors
Fighters are fine, but come one. I refuse to believe the only thing that survived after RoTJ were the Fighters
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>>78590494
>creating your own perfect waifu
Living the dream.
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>>78590494
You think he has the heart to kill her?
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>>78590529
>The setup of TFA is bog-standard resistence fighters by proxy. Of course they don't have state of the art ships and crap. We're going to see those later, when larger militaries come into play.
You're describing the OT.
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>>78590538

I hear ya brother
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>>78590492
Kill yourself, casual. None of the movies explains the entirity of galatic history for the benefit of your peabrain. You get enough information to understand the movie. If what you got isn't enough, one wonders how you can find the 'post' button without a fucking step by step instruction.

>>78590516
Except the same thing that introduces the force priestesses shows us a SIth ghost.
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>>78590496
>The Doom Star
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>>78590580
we'll see
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>>78590592
>>78590538
>>78590477
>Just saw the movie
>Phasma is easily the coolest looking new character
>Dat stature
>Dat voice
>Dat armor
>Dat cape
>Finally a Stormtrooper that might not be completely and utterly useless
>She yells at a main character, and then gets thrown in the trash.

biggest disappointment of this year.
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>>78590247
Kill your self.
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>>78590581
>You're describing the OT.
What's the difference?
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>>78590521
>following a movie is now reddit

>>78590529
I hope we see original ship designs for VIII with their military budget
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So Ezra is supposed to be Arabic right?
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>>78590430
>caring about tua
for what reason
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>>78590636
He's Aladdin
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>>78590615
fingers crossed that she had some scenes on the cutting room floor that might make it into an extended cut
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>>78590615
I know m8, she's just Boba Fett 3.0 but at least they learned something and didn't kill her.

Hopefully bigger role in future movies but how bout some spinoff stuff too? There should be a vidya where you play as her
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>>78590496
>Luke would originally meet Kira after her surrogate father is killed by the remnants of the Galatic Empire and mentor her in the ways of the Force.

>Kira and Sam would originally locate Han Solo as a space cowboy in a rundown bar on an crime-ridden world known as "Crime City". Han would have a trenchcoat, combed-back hair and a beard.

>BB-8 was originally a probe droid called "Surly", while Rey had her own jury-rigged scavenger droid companion.

>Snoke was at one point female and modeled as a "beautiful, but warped marble statue".

>Jakku started out as a non-descript planet where an Imperial ship crash-lands, then became a junk planet, and at different points was a water planet, a jungle planet and an icea planet.

>The Resistance base would originally be an underground bunker underneath Leia's castle in a forest planet.

>Space pirates were involved, at one point raiding the Millennium Falcon, at the other capturing Rey and forcing her to "walk the plank" (back when Jakku was a water planet). They inspired the Kanjiklub Gang and also a deleted scene where Finn flags down a couple of aliens for a ride in Jakku and gets ignored and mocked.
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>>78590631
>original ship designs from the military budget

dude, they'll just buy ships from Mon Cal, Sullust, Incom, or Corellia just like they always have
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>>78590624
exactly

>>78590631
No, being purposely obtuse is reddit.
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>>78590492
Why would you care about it? You know what the Republic is and how they act. Why do ypu feel the need to understand everything of everyone in a fucling movie?
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>>78590615
She'll be back more shiney and chrome than ever
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>>78590595
And in that same episode, it is stated that the Sith ghost does not believe in life after death, and that itself is an illusion.
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>>78590595
>Kill yourself, casual. None of the movies explains the entirity of galatic history for the benefit of your peabrain. You get enough information to understand the movie. If what you got isn't enough, one wonders how you can find the 'post' button without a fucking step by step instructi
Are you retarded?
>inb4 no argument
If you had an argument, I would be refuting it.
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>>78590615
She gives up way too easily. Maybe seeing Finn's defection gave her second thoughts, and by the time they come to blow up the base she's already mentally checked out.
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>>78590670
Why is the galaxy the way it is?
This isn't even hinted at.
If that doesn't bother you then you should suck a shotgun :^)
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>>78590704
or she's smart and knows that no matter how shiny and chrome you are, you can't survive three main characters shooting at you unless you're a force user.
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>>78590659
It's been 30 years you don't think there are new ships
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>>78590728
Then why would you let one of your top troopers have such strong self preservation instincts? She should've sacrificed herself for the good of the Order like a good soldier.
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>>78590675
I hope so. And I hope she gets thrown in the trash again, within minuets of reappearing.

>>78590615
>Finally a Stormtrooper that might not be completely and utterly useless
But anon, Finn wasn't useless
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>>78590651
Nope.

I've read somewhere Phasma was never supposed to be important. J.J. just wanted Benedict Cumberbatch to voice some lines as a throwaway Stormtrooper commander, like Daniel Craig, then they decided "hey, let's make him chrome" for fun, then they gave him a name, then came a cape, then they decided to make him female because C'MON IT'S 2015, then Gwndoline Christie gunned hard for the role, and eventually the character's popularity blew up without having actual content to back it up.
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>>78590781
he was useless as a stormtrooper.
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>>78590726
I think the big lesson to be learned from the PT reaction is that fans don't really care why the galaxy is the way it is.
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>>78590726
Not everyone who watches the movie is a hardcore fan like you, you know? Besides is just the first movie, you want they to explained all that shit and bore everyone? Stick with your comics pal
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>>78590728
If she's so smart, why didn't she realize that she was the only thing standing in the way of the destruction of the large superweapon in the galaxy, and not turn off the shields?
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>>78590817
>Stick with your comics pal
>TFA is literally a comic book movie
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>>78590810
But i'm a fan and I care.

>>78590817
You sound underage or foreign.
If you're foreign that's fine, but your typing leaves something to be desired if you're underage.
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>>78590826
>>78590770
Because she's secretly good and will switch sides and help save the galaxy right?
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>>78590692
>r u retard

Nah, just replying to you post in exactly the same manner and on exactly the same intellectual level you've displayed so far. Good job convincing me you're retarded, btw.

>>78590817
Amen.
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Attending Celebration for the first time ever this year.
I have a hotel room to myself for the con.
What are the chances of fucking a cosplayer, and how do I increase said chances.
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>>78590937
Increase your chances by becoming a girl.
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>>78590736

I didn't say that, I said the resistance wouldn't make they're own ships, they would just buy them from existing shipyards
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>>78590954
Dammit.
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>>78590937

this:>>78590954

also, that mentality won't get you laid man
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We should all just enjoy Star Wars movies for what they are . simply A bunch of Fantasy movies for children and teenagers
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>>78590885
>no u
compelling argument
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>>78590982
Getting laid isn't an issue. I can get laid. I just want to fulfill that whole "fucking an alien chick" fantasy that cosplayers allow you to fulfill.
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>>78590987
>enjoying the prequels
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>>78590987
'no'
The first six have much higher aspirations.
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>>78591006
The prequels are hilarious.
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>>78591016
No they don't.
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>>78590990
Hey, you're the one bitching about how you don't understand things 94% of rotten tomatoes seem to grasp. I don't think you'd understand a compelling argument, shitposter.
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>>78591006
>not enjoying the prequels

I unironically have no face
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>>78590987
I enjoy your mom.
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>>78591002

oh, then just find yourself a cosplaying gf anon, don't have to go all the way to celebration for that

or do what most people on this site do and submit to 2D masterrace
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>>78591016
First six? I could maybe understand the OT but the PT too?
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>>78591028
They're painfully mediocre. They don't even cross into so bad it's good for me, save for a few moments. It's just depressing all the missed potential.
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>>78591006

I mean I don't like them either, III is the best, but they aren't entirely awful, watch the anti-cheese editions anon
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>>78590960
My bad, but still I hope they have some interesting designs in there
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>>78591029
Yes, they do.

>>78591028
*good movies

>>78591030
>ad populum fallacy
compelling argument
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>>78591041
You mad buddy?
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>>78590615
don't worry, with the audience going "wtf m8?" about her not having any parts, and the sudden popularity of the character, she'll not only be back for the next one, but she'll have fan driven plot armor as well.

>>78590770
how do you think she got to the position of chrome weirdo? you think ren has a thing for tall girls?

but all of that aside, consider this;

>fascist
>absolute belief in her cause
>gets caught in ambush
>knows what chewbacca is capable of
>knows han solo and his pet
>knows even if she gets one they'll probably shoot her
>leaders are more important than fighters.thought
>no idea what the rebels have coming, just knows they want the shield down
>probably lolling at the idea that rebels could do shit
>does it for shits and giggles because tactically speaking any assault on their base is a suicide
>she was right
>even the bombing wasn't successful
>only lost the base because of the faggot force user in the xwing

this is why the new star wars is a bad movie. The good guys literally win because of written in plot armor.
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>>78591080
Nope. Georgie wanted to make fun movies based on the ones he watched as a kid. That's it.
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>>78591060
Yes. In my opinion, yes.

>>78591065
>painfully mediocre
If that describes any SW movie, it's TFA.
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>>78591096
>only lost the base because of the faggot force user in the xwing

>Poe
>not the best character

>Poe
>force user

>using "plot armor" to describe things that aren't plot armor

Get your head checked m8
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>>78591108
That's objectively untrue.
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>>78591044
Had a cosplays GF who refused to do anything more out there than Harley Quinn. Which is fine and fun. The first couple times.
Hence I want a Star Wars chick for a one off and figured since I'm going to celebration anyway, that would be best place to find it.
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>>78591127
No. TFA is at least fun and energetic. PT is monotone and boring.

>>78591161
>objectively

Le epic meme my good sir
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>>78591096
So you want everyone to lose? Don't be so grumpy anon. All movies have a happy ending
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>>78591182
>this whole post
I disagree with everything you stand for.

>>78591188
>all movies have a happy ending
no?
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>>78590423
They don't believe in an afterlife.That's why they're so obsessed with finding immortality and hoarding as much power as they can while they're alive.

Additionally, becoming a Force Ghost has something to do with one's selflessness and with the Sith being all selfishness...
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>>78591251
>he doesn't think the PT is monotone and boring

George pls go.
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>>78591080
>I don't understand this, baaaaw
>94% of the people who saw it did

This is a case where ad populum works and proves you're a fucking idiot, mate.
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>>78591285
What?
RT does not indicate anything other than people's enjoyment of a movie.
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>>78591270
You have a right to your opinion, as I do mine.
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>>78591347
Sure but your opinion is wrong.
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>>78591362
>your opinion is wrong
Thanks 4chan.
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>>78590656
>Snoke was at one point female and modeled as a "beautiful, but warped marble statue".

>we could have got this

>instead we got Palpatine and Gollum's bastard child

fuck
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>>78591362
>your opinion>my opinion
meesa no think so
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>>78590423
They can become specters created by the Dark Side, but not independent ghosts.
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>>78591400
You're welcome Reddit

>>78591423
Shut up Jar Jar Abrams, you're probably dead
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>>78591422
This would've been spooky as fuck.
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>the PT was fucking great
>it was garbage
>you're stupid
>you're stupider
>reddit!
>reddit!

Everytime
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>>78590615
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>>78591507
And /tv/ use to be such a fun place

Gamegate really fucked it up
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>>78591148
the only thing to describe his bullshit is magic, and in the star wars universe there can never be a poorly written plot as long as you say "it was the force yo, don't gotta explain shit!" This is the one part the original films did correctly, because it covers any of lucas's shitty storytelling that wasn't fixed by competent people.

So if poe doesn't have the force, then he really is just a plothole. He's also written to be likeable you fucking faggot, and in star wars that means he exists to sell merchandise.

>>78591188
if they're written to win, they win, no bullshit plot armor that states good guys always win. Shit like that is for merchandising. The only good thing to come out of this movie was han solo's death because it was valuable in placement and something not often seen in blockbusters. They usually don't let their valuable merchandising pieces die.
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>>78590656
>Jakku started out as a non-descript planet where an Imperial ship crash-lands, then became a junk planet, and at different points was a water planet, a jungle planet and an icea planet.

I wish it would've been some kind of city built around the crashed remains of a Star Destroyer instead of another desert planet
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>>78591596
What the fuck does Poe do that's so incredible that it requires the force?

Also, you don't know what a plothole is.

Also, you sound like a cynical little bitch.
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>>78591572
That's not an excuse for shitting up threads and boards
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>>78591635
What I don't get is why is Poe still fucking alive? The first time I saw it I didn't even realize it was him leading the attack on Kanata's planet, and I sat there confused while Finn talked to his buddy in the resistance that he some how knew before finally figuring out it was the guy who was supposed to be dead.
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>>78591643
>Watch TCW
>Watch Rebels
>Watch TFA
>All I'm reminded of is how much fun the Tie-Fighter games were
>No Star Wars fighter games.

Why.
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>>78591738
Finn gets knocked one way from crash, Poe another

Poe gets knocked out and wakes up after Finn/Rey/BB8 are gone, finds his way back to Resistance

IDK that's just what I thought. They don't really explain it for some bullshit "he didn't make it" lame drama. Totally could have just said "I couldn't find him after the crash" and show a scene of what happens to him
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>>78586379
I think they'd be bros
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>>78591771
>tfw my local arcade has a tie fighter cabinet

I love taking my nephew to the arcade
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>>78591793
They never show the body, but they do show his jacket caught in the canopy of his tie fighter in a way that displays he crawled out. Finn finds his jacket, but doesn't find him. Somehow, he assumes Poe is dead, but then again, Mr. Big Shot is A BIT OF AN IDIOT.
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>no good rule 34 Phasma

Why even live
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>>78591822
Ren would think they're bros, but truth is Vader just keeps Ren around to mock him in front of his real friends.
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>>78591933
Big Deal*

Meh, I like Finn and how goofy and non-perfect he is. Makes him endearing. Rey is OK but too perfect for me to relate to.
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>>78591822
>Let me get this straight. You CHOSE to dress like this
>Yeah, it's cool...isn't it
>Vader stares at him blanklywith the sound of beeping coming from somewhere on his suit
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>>78591941
That's true. Vader would trick him into doing stupid things then have a good laugh with Sidious later.
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>>78591933
>>78591980
I thought he got swallowed by one of the sand traps at first
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>>78588007
Okee day
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>>78591941
>>78591991
Vader would be that rough and tumble grandpa that makes fun of the geeky grandkid when he comes over for Christmas dinner

>still wearing that goofy helmet kid?
>y-yes grandpa
>you get laid yet? I told your grandma that I just killed a bunch of people and she still let me hit that, where's your game son?
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>>78591938
To see the good porn be made
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>>78591983
>I wanted to have my arm cut off and replaced with a robot hand to be more like you but my stupid parents wouldn't let me!
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>>78592063
I can't wait any longer

None of that lame out of armour shit either, needs to be in full armour
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>>78591980
I enjoyed him, but his character seemed to contemporary for a Star Wars movie. His character at times just becomes "black guy... in spaaaace". Like when he captures Phasma and goes into his best Kevin Hart impression.
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>>78592082
>You see this scar. I got it when my stupid dad hit me with a fire cracker. I totally know what it's like to be burned by someone you tursted
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>>78588915
>why was Luke so fond of Obi-Wan if he only met him barely a day ago?

He's clearly met him before. What are you talking about? They don't introduce themselves to each other or anything.
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>>78591980
I like Finn the most, too. I like that he's wrong and sometimes pretty stupid. I like how naive he is, too. Poe left him to die and he's just happy Poe survived. Finn doesn't even think along those lines. Finn is a flawed, but genuinely good guy.

I don't dislike Rey, either. She's competent, but relatable to me because watching her face, I saw a lot of fear and rage. That made her quick mastery of the force plausible to me. Girl was using the dark side, evidently. And that is a bit more subtle a flaw than Finn's overt ones, admittedly, but knocks her down from the supposed Mary Sue state you hear a lot from folks.

Still prefer Finn, though. He's just...a bro.
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>>78592042
Would he be like that or mock Ren for not being evil enough?

>By your age I killed a whole village of sand people and all the kids at the Jedi temple, take off that cape you look ridiculous.
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>>78592095
Stay strong
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>>78592141
Has Kevin Hart beat Chris Tucker for the role of over excited black man?
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>>78592141
Finn doesn't have 'natural' social norms. You notice this. He's a liar, he's perpetually confused and things he thinks are threatening or clever are comically off the mark. The reason he still gets by is because his conditioning instilled some basic values in him as well, such as extreme loyalty, survival instinct and a notion of camraderie. He's nonetheless very sheltered and fodder for the likes of Poe or Solo if they wanted to exploit him.

How Finn (and the other troopers we see) talk and act kind of makes you wonder just how fucked in the head the other troopers are and what talk in the barracks during downtime sounds like, though...
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>>78592342
>very bad liar

my bad. So much bad.
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>>78592342
>extreme loyalty,
>implying
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>>78592303
>implying Hart will ever be as green as Tucker
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>>78592303
Unless Hart makes something than the comedy masterpiece that is Rush Hour 2, Tucker will always be king
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>>78591635
>What the fuck does Poe do that's so incredible that it requires the force?
>escapes from star destroyer in tie fighter
>manages to make it away from said star destroyer despite taking a hit from insane laser spam purely for plot reasons, when he could have instead used his plot armor to destroy the star destroyer.
>manages to hit the ground from space in a way that doesn't kill everybody on board
>later shows up in x-wing
>goes on a literal quake killing spree while any of his friends not in his immediate front are gettong shot down
>then pulls the same bullshit ray did by flying in doors and showboating like an asshole blowing apart the objective in his x-wing
>escapes an exploding building in a spacecraft not designed to house them


if he doesn't have the force, then he's following the "little people are important too" trope to pander to people who don't feel like"jedi" and want a character that makes them feel like their 9-5 at mcdonalds actually means something. "wow he's not a jedi, and he's that badass! that's amazing I could be him!"

normie merchandising, and even if you deny that just means you haven't accepted it on a conscious level.
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>>78592378
Very much so, just not to the First Order, but to individual people. The conditioning evidently worked to some degree, but he's not the kind of person to grasp on to ideology and instead focuses on people. He's with the rebellion because he likes Rey and Poe, not because he believes in their cause.
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>>78592378
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>>78592342
>loyalty

Did you even watch the movie?
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>>78592418
>is a good pilot
>does good pilot stuff
>HURRR PLOT ARMOR PLOT HOLE PLOT PLOT PLOT

Fuck you sound like such a bitch. Going to the movies with you is probably torture.
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>>78590496
>>Kylo Ren was originally "The Jedi Killer", Darth Vader's apprentice trained to slaughter Jedis and obsessed with killing Luke. At different points he feeded off of sun matter and had a torture droid as a companion.
I see...
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>>78592466
statistically speaking good has nothing to do with it, he's supernaturally lucky.
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>>78592342
Only interacting with people by ID numbers and never seeing their face must fuck you up too. Imagine the work place parties where they get to take their helmets off, it's probably more awkward than a middle school dance.
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>>78586518
Republic credits were no good out there and Tatooine was not part of the Republic. It was quite simply out of their hands no matter what they wanted or could do. By the time the Republic had a vested interest in Tatooine (during the Clone Wars), it was a little too late. As Obi-Wan said in the first issue of Obi-Wan and Anakin, the Republic doesn't need have need for worlds that have things they don't want

Unfortunately, the Jedi had to abide by that same dictat because they are under the jurisdiction of the Senate.
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>>78589863
The hood is actually quite distinctive, in my opinion. He wears it much better than most others
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>>78592496
He's the best Resistance pilot. He knows how to dodge shit and shoot shit down. What the fuck else do you want?

Also this "plot armor" "normie merchandising" "trope to pander" shit makes you sound autistic as fuck.
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>>78592445
Yeah, I watched him follow the first people to treat him decently , his "friends", into literal hell even though he gives zero fucks about their cause. What about you?
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Google drive link for rebels midseason finale?
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>>78592493
>We almost got LA Starkiller
Oh thank god
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>>78592503
>Republic credits were no good out there
This always bothered me. I get that its Hutt space, but the Hutts run crime syndicates all over the galaxy. They can't run all their operations in spice and shit. Watto could've easily moved those credits because at the end of the day the primary currency of the largest political organization in the galaxy still has value. Kind of like how ISIS has to conduct all their business in USD.
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>>78592575
The abandons the first order and almost abandons his new crew. Traitoring is in his blood.

TR-8R is loyal.
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>>78592687
And look where being loyal got him
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>>78592575
Did you forget the part were he was half way of the planet before shit hit the fan?
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>>78592565
It doesn't matter if I'm autistic, because I work in marketing and taking the money of "normal people" or the "mainstream" is what I do for a living. We've done such a good job nurturing that delusion inside you I can sit here on 4chan and tell you the truth an you will deny it.
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>>78592739
How fucking high are you right now?
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>>78591422

If I'm right about him being abeloth, we might get that as one of its forms.
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>>78592730
Nope. I also didn't forget the part where he risked his neck for them regardless.

>>78592687
They're both two very different kinds of loyalty. Finn is loyal to people, TR-8R is loyal to an ideology. Jesus fucking christ, how is this hard?
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>>78592711
a noble death fighting against the enemies of peace and order in the galaxy. He will be remembered as a hero.
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>>78592818
>it's working
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>>78592859
So deep bro. #thetruth #dontbelievetheirlies
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>>78592847
He will be forgotten like every other storm trooper. Except on the internet where he is at semi-meme status.
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>>78592840
you have to remember you're talking to star wars fans, a group of people so meticulously detail oriented, while at the same time being dumber than a sack of bricks.
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>>78593028
I bet you like the smell of your own farts.
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>>78592879
When will the sheeple wake up
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>>78593057
Just like any true Star Wars fan.
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>>78588662

Because attachments will eventually lead to loss and suffering, which can lead to the darkside.

It's a dumb rule though, and fucks the jedi over more than anything. They should have taught how to deal with suffering, how to cope, not just try and avoid it in the first place.

The Green Jedi on Corellia had jedi families in the EU and they got along fine. And before the rule of no attachments jedi got along for thousands of years.

The whole "don't form attachments so you don't suffer" is just failed. Suffering is part of the whple life experience, just have to learn to deal with it and move on.
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TR-8R is getting a Hot Toys figure, bundled with Finn.
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>>78593282

Why does this shit have to be so expensive!
They know their audience tho
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>>78588662
"Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed, that is."
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>>78593300
>It can't be that mu-
>359.99
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So Wedge and Nien Nunb are now neck-and-neck for successful Death Star/Planetary destruction weapon attack runs.

What's the tiebreaker?
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>>78593549
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B04XbfibgT4
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>>78593549
>What's the tiebreaker?
The scene where he laughs always cracks me up. It just looks so silly and cute.
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>>78593549
Depends on who lives longer and what the First Order does next.
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>>78593613
Surely they wont build a 4th death star.
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thanks to whoever did the file archive
you da real mvp etc
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What does the fourth precept represent?

It's my favorite SW story.
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What's up with the episode numbering for Rebelles? The episodes on the torrent sites are numbered differently to what's on the wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_Rebels_episodes

Which is right?
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>>78594267
How are they numbered on the torrent? If they're all of by 1 they're probably counting the movie as ep 1, and going up from there.
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>>78594267
What do you mean? how are they different?
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>>78594411
>>78594427
They're actually off by two. Legacy's listed as episode 11 on the wiki, yet the torrents label it at 9. Finally found 'Wings of the Master' as s02e05 and it's 7th on the wiki.
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>>78594497
that's odd, they must have just fucked up with numbering, cause even if they count episodes one and two as one, legacy should still be ten.
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>>78590494
Every time I see that picture I keep imagine Filoni shoving Ahsoka into the dirt and saying, "Nay, wench, for the only true love is between a man and his hat!"
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>>78594497
>s02e05 and it's 7th on the wiki.
I see what they did. The wiki is counting "siege of Lothal" as two episodes. The torrent is probably counting it as a separate TV movie. The torrent should be fine.
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>>78594411
>>78594427
>>78594497
>>78594591
Sometimes he battle of lothal, the first episode of season two is counted as last episode of season one because that is how it aired. They teased Vader and then went on break.
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Do any of you guys have the various comics set around the KotOR games? There's a list of them in this thread but I'm finding it hard to track them down. With the popularity of SW, I'd have thought there'd be a direct download collection of them all somewhere.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=7226656
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>>78590496
>Starkiller Base was originally "The Doom Star", built on planet Dantooine, built inside a volcano and powered by geotermal energy.
The name is stupid but there is something in that concept. Starkiller Base would have been much more interesting if the central structure was actually a massive ship. Able to travel on it's own and then burrow into planets like a tick, feeding off of them to power it's shots. Somehow seems nastier, and also easier to explain that an entire planet able to travel in hyperspace somehow

Plus if they still wanted to use the Starkiller name instead of having the base eat planets just have it aim at stars and cause them to go nova. Makes more sense than a beam that somehow splits up in a way that the component beams all home in unerringly different worlds within a planetary system. The only problem I see is people complaining about how a weapon powered by a planet's core can cause a star to explode, but it's still hand-wavey. Especially given the whole 'giant kyber crystals that somehow amplify energy probably with the Force'.
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>>78590615
What is worse? Jar Jar or characters that actually seem inherently cool/interesting who end up being totally useless and discarded?

End of the day seems like Jar Jar still earns louder complaints but that latter bit is really annoying. Probably because they pumped up some many figures in TFA who were so background you can blink and miss them. Sarco Plank, I'm looking at you buddy. At least Phasma had lines.
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>>78590615
She'll be back as it goes on, that much is obvious. She'll basically be Finn's final boss in the same way that Snoke will be for Rey, or at least mini-boss like Kylo Ren.
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>>78592739
oh yeah well i work for the resistance and we've seen poe be skillfull with our own eyes m8.
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>>78592940
He's not semi anything

>>78592840
>How hard is that?

How hard is it for you to understand that we're talking about a meme here?
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>>78590615
So she sees Finn acting odd, orders him to turn his blaster for inspection and report to her "division". They check him out and order him for reconditioning. Afterward he immediately ditches the FO and frees their high priority prisoner and kick starts all this madness.

How was Phasma never Vadered by Kylo Ren? All I can think of is not even Kylo Ren is that powerful. I imagine even Yoda would be all, "Lift an x-wing I can but too much woman are you!"
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>>78594899
When I read your post I thought you meant Rey was going to be Finn's final boss. I'd really love for her to go dark side
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>>78594922
Suuuure, and your dad works for Blastech and your cousin is a Mandalorian super commando bounty hunter who will hunt us down through our holonet address and go full disintegration on our asses.
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>>78592687
>almost abandons his new crew.
>almost
Only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
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>>78595020
>main character falling to the dark side
No. Pretty much any plot point from the PT isn't going to be touched.
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>>78594775
I thought it would have been enough for 'Starkiller Base' to simply eat stars. Jump it into a system; eat the star; while fighting off the enemy's fleet. Chew through one or two and the rest of the galaxy would surrender rather than go sunless. Instead they just made it a fairly boring big gun again.
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>>78595019
First Order's not as big as the Empire. Officers aren't as disposable.
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>>78595019
>For you a big guy you are hmmm?
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>>78595087
You mean nerf herding and thermal detonators. Go full nerd or go home. We don't serve your kind here.
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>>78595019
Well bear in mind that Vader was most choke happy before the Emperor was created by Lucas. In ANH he was just this crazy dog of the Empire with no Sith Master, just a weird freak that worked for the Empire. Not 100% sure on this, but as of the time first see Palpatine (and thus its established who the real big bad is) Vader seems to stop doing that. So in TFA, we know Ren is just someone else's bitch from near the very start.
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>>78595019
>How was Phasma never Vadered by Kylo Ren?
Ren doesn't Vader people he just damages the nearest control panel.
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>>78595020
Think that'll be the main plot arc for this trilogy: Rey tempted to the Dark Side, Kylo resisting the pull to the Light. They will tweener, if not outright heel/face turn at some point.
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>>78595094
>kid from a desert planet who enjoys spinning becomes a jedi

I can dream anon
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>>78595019
>How was Phasma never Vadered by Kylo Ren?
Because Ben is not Anakin. Even if he REALLY wants to be.
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>>78595019
Ren clearly doesn't have the kind of authority that Vader had, and even if he did Phasma only reports to him when she's the commanding officer in the field. Her superiors are the ones who deal with Kylo, and would be the ones you take any "vadering". In addition, as another anon said the First Order can't really spare officers like the Empire could.

Phasma's punishment would come at the ends of Hux, or whatever the army commander's name was.
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>>78595105
Such is the nature of SW. You could say the same for the Death Star in the first film - they could've just destroyed Alderaan's sun, Yavin's sun, etc. Hell, they could've shot the planet in the way of Yavin 4 and kept on firing so the ray went through and hit the Rebel base anyway.

They have to try to keep it tonally consistent. Something like a more morbid and slow death like a planet drifting off into space with no natural light isn't very SW.
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>>78595190
I kind of hope. For VIII I want to see Rey going darkside with no hesitation and just loving it, while Kylo sees the error of his ways and turns to the light. It's hardly got a chance of happening but it's fun to imagine
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>>78595210
He did kill some younglings right?
I mean his posse was there, and he was probably pressured into it, but he still killed them.
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>>78595105
A big gun that destroyed planetary systems at both ends, costing home systems for every two systems it destroys. Also its "hand wavey hyperspace effect" that lets everyone in the galaxy see the giant read beam in real-time could just track it back to the location of your secret base.

Apparently Starkiller Base can move but no clue how that works. It's still a sign of supreme stupidity on their part that they didn't immediately change positions after seeing Finn's file which should point out that he was a janitor there. They also, once again, did a horrible job of defending the single weakness that, once destroyed, takes out the entire damn thing.

All I can imagine is Snoke saying, "Now that we've fucked up just like the old Empire we truly ARE the Empire now! Good job, everybody! Let's keep up the good work until the third movie were a bunch of teddy bears will eat most of you and I'll be thrown down a bottomless pit!"
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>>78595251
That wasn't when he betrayed Luke's academy.
Those were just some guys.
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>>78595251
>He did kill some younglings right?
We don't know how old Luke's Jedi trainees were
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>>78587108
>Ahch-To

I feel like this was an ambient sound effect from KotOR
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>>78595271
>the only thing Snoke will say to his officers for the next month is "yub nub"
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>>78595271
To be fair, this time it required quite possibly the best living pilot to hyperspace right next to a planet. All the first one required was a farmboy to fly an X-Wing for the first time about a day after leaving home. The 2nd one had the weird weakness of having a shield generator OUTSIDE its hull, inexplicably on a nearby moon in a building with a totally pointless, unguarded rear entrance. It also required highly trained troops to be outclassed by furry toddlers.
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>>78595251
What are the odds that it'll turn out Rey was a member of Luke's temple and Benny Boy couldn't bring himself to murder a five year old so he just secretly exiled her on Jakku?

One of those instances where he's still struggling with his inner Light, you know?

"Rey, I am your totally the guy who abandoned you on Jakku, but I did it because I couldn't murder you, and now here you are all grown up and my primary enemy. So...irony, right?"
"You mean we're not secretly twins or cousins?"
"Nope."
"Huh."
"So... Want to join me in the Dark Side and rule the galaxy as not twins or cousins, or do you want to have a duel? I mean I'm a Skywalker but you're the designated hero so no clue which of us will lose a hand in this fight. This is like some Schrödinger shit or something."
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>>78595352
"You've all failed MISERABLY. For the next two weeks all of your helmets will play Jedi Rocks! At quarter volume only. I mean I'm not a monster or anything."
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>>78593549
Wedge is still winning for "minor character that survived the most films." So Nunb needs to be in one more before there's a tiebreaker in my book.
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>>78592687
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little traitor? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Jakku, and I have over 300 confirmed spins. I am trained in guerilla warfare and I’m the top spinner in the entire First Order. You are nothing to me but just another traitor. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on Takodana, mark my fucking spins. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me across the Galaxy far, far away? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting the Knights of Ren across the sector and your coordinates are being traced right now so you better prepare for the spins, traitor. The spins that wipe out the pathetic little thing you call the Force. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare baton. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Starkiller Base and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable Resistance off the face of the planet, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy betrayal your little “back to Jakku” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit-spin fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, traitor.
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>>78595440
That was pretty much made clear in TFA. Rey knew of the Force, she knew basic concepts like keeping a calm mind, she knew about Jedi mind tricks, she knew about Force pull. Two revisited elements were Luke's school being fucked up by Ben and Rey being left somewhere on Jakku (as we can infer, it would be for her own safety).

It also seems like Luke left the maps so someone could find him. R2 was said to have been in standby since Luke left. When Rey and co. get to the Resistance HQ, R2 comes out of standby and they get the last piece of the map. So it seems to me like Luke set all this up so he could be found only when Rey is ready to become a full Jedi.
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>>78595503
And then they sentenced Wedge to suffer through Chuck Wendig. A fate truly worse than death.
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>>78595380
>All the first one required was a farmboy to fly an X-Wing for the first time about a day after leaving home
Well in a universe without Jedi it at least makes sense to make your one weakness a skill shot that could be pulled off by someone strong in the force.

The hilarious thing is that each death star gets worse and worse.
Death Star 1: nearly impossible shot that you have to go down well defended canyon to get to
Death Star 2: take out a shield generator on the surface, then fly in for a bombing
Death Star 3: take out a shield generator on the surface, then hit the weak spot, which is also conveniently located on the surface.

By number 3 you don't even need once in a generation pilots.
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>people still think the scene where Kylo stabs that guy in the back with the Knights was when Ben killed Luke's academy
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>>78595237
Th Death Star didn't drain suns for power though. Shooting a star with a beam that can destroy a mere planet wouldn't do much either.
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>>78595158
Vader chokes out a guy on a different ship when he drops out of hyperspace too close to Hoth, and then again when the one Captain loses the Falcon due to Han's trash trick. Both in ESB and one right after the Emperor shows up.

I think Lucas just tried to tone down Vader's choking in RotJ so that we'd be more convinced by his turning back to the "light"?
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Emo Kylo Ren @KyloR3n 18 minutes ago

i told my dad he should let me get my license since I share DNA with the best starpilot in the galaxy
he was touched but I meant darth vader
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I tried enjoying this movie but there was a guy behind me who kept going "whoo-hoo-hooo!" and "Hahahahaha wooooww so coooool!" whenever ANYTHING happened

That and I found it very hard to believe Rey could pull the "You will do X" trick and learned how to use a saber when Anakin and Luke both had to learn and train to do those things

Also she never apologized to Finn, the best character, for hitting him in the face at the beginning
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>>78595522
Rey knew the legends of the Jedi. Let's even use the real world as an example here. If you grew up watching movies and reading books about Jedi, then found out they were real AND that you had the Force, you'd immediately go "sweet let's try to move this around with my mind and get free food at Taco Bell with a mind trick."
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>>78595190
>>78595245
If I remember correctly, there was an old rumor about a female "Sith warrior" appearing in episode VIII. It could just be one of Kylo's knights, but maybe the rumor refers to Rey who may actually turn to the dark side.
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>>78595557
By 3 they needed Han to hyperspace right to the surface of the planet. That was an amazing feat. Simply flying down a tunnel like in RotJ didn't seem that hard by comparison to putting the brakes on FTL at the right millisecond. It was achieved by Lando, a guy who'd been sitting on his ass for years, signing deals and hitting on uninterested women.

The first one is kind of hit and miss. Yes it needed Luke to be a Jedi, but he'd only had about 10 minutes of training at this point, and it was nothing to do with the skills required to line up a shot.
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>>78594955
Yes he is. Learn 2 internet.
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>>78595606
Luke didn't do much training between New Hope and Empire (that we've seen, anyway).
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>>78595557
well no.
Star Killer base was
>Take out shield generator, which is in a heavily fortified section of the base, and needed a high ranking officer to deactivate
>Attack the weak spot, which is also heavily fortified to the point that an entire flight of multi-purpose fighters doing a bombing run did negligible damage and did not hinder its ability at all, and needed several massive explosions from the inside to happen to break a single fighter sized craft in its walls

Starkiller Base was very very heavily fortified and the Resistance was losing. Han is literally the only reason the plan worked.
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>>78595019
Because she saw something was wrong and followed the correct orders for what to do in the situation. Even Kylo knew something was up with Finn and didn't do anything more.
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>>78595606
None of the Jedi tricks are particularly hard. Most Jedi training is "Hey, don't be a dick with this stuff. Being a dick leads to the dark side."
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>implying Rey didn't kill everyone at the temple and Kylo and the boys didn't just find her there with all the bodies
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>>78595642
I hope they have the balls to make Rey go dark side. The dude who did the Fly episode of Breaking Bad is directing VIII, imagine if the movie highlights Rey's slow turn to the darkside.What would make her turn, outside of the realization of why she was left on Jakku
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>>78595522
>she knew about Jedi mind tricks, she knew about Force pull.
Well Ren had just tried to mind trick her moments before she busts it out, and I'm pretty sure she saw Ren use the force pull when they met on Takodana. She knows those things can be done at so doing it just becomes a mater of self belief. The one thing that Anakin and Luke didn't have.
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>>78595557
Death Star 3 was a little more complicated than that.
>Somehow infiltrate the planet through its impenetrable shield grid
>Somehow sneak into the shield generator room without getting caught, and take a hostage that knows how to turn the shields off
>Then, again without being seen, get to the weak spot, place charges throughout the weak spot, blow up the weak spot, and THEN get your fighters to hit it enough that it blows up.
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>people seriously think they're gonna make Rey go dark side when she's supposed to be a role model for little girls

Not a chance.
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>>78595641
She grew up alone in a desert shithole. How exactly would she know all that much? You don't see anyone else trying to do mind tricks on the off chance they're a character from a legend.

It's no coincidence that the main hero and villain of the films, the two that end up fighting at the end, are roughly the same age and both have backstories from around the same time where one fucked up Luke's academy and the other was left on Jakku.

At no point does Luke seem to practice with his lightsaber or any weapon at all. Rey used her pole weapon for many years prior to the start of the film. Luke goes from fixing farm machinery to using the Force to shoot missiles accurately in about 20 hours, with definitely no prior training. He ends up fighting Vader at Cloud City after no apparently lightsaber training (unless Yoda has one too and they just practised off camera).
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>>78595760
>A 5 year old killing adult Jedi apprentices all by herself
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>>78595801
>cute little podracing kid murders innocent children

ur dumb pal
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>>78595606
the only unbelievable thing, to me, is getting the mind trick to work without any indication that she knew that such a thing was possible. using a sword, especially in much the way that she and Finn used the lightsaber, isn't really all that hard. Mostly a Lightsaber is just awkward because it doesn't weight a Goddamn thing. Both she and Finn had clearly used melee weapons before, and by the time Rey got her hands on the saber she was starting to use the force.
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>>78595778
It would be nice to have Rey be tempted and maybe turn and then have episode 9 bring her back to the light. We all know it won't end with her being a sith, but she could go bad for one film.
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>>78595801
That woman from Frozen goes dark side for most of the film.
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I can buy that Rey can do Jedi Mind Trick with no training because LOL THE FORCE. I get that. That's fine.

My problem is she does it out of fucking NOWHERE. No one mentions it, she pulls it out of her ass. I know it's a sequel but if you just watched 7 as your first movie, that moment makes no sense whatsover.

Should have had Han go "Luke could use the force to do many things, even tell weak minded people to do things they didn't want" or some shit.
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>>78595503

It makes more sense for that pilot to be Ten instead of Nien, but oh well. Not as bad as the fat pilot not being Holton Salm or his son.
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>>78595811
>You don't see anyone else trying to do mind tricks on the off chance they're a character from a legend.
Yeah, just like no one's ever tried to use the force to grab the remote, or turn off a light.
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>>78595760
I need pictures of Nevada Rey
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>>78595829
>not a girl
>already had his fate determined by the OT

ur dumb pal

>>78595853
So? She becomes the good guy in the end right?
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>>78595814
what is The Force
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>>78595700
>much

There was SOMETHING, even if it's not directly shown, we've seen that he DOES and DID train. He did the more serious stuff with Yoda, but even before that he was shown to do at least a little training

Rey just shows up and does a fuckload of things and survives just because the plot demands it

She flew the Millennium Falcon without a co-pilot when it hasn't run in years AND managed to evade 2 TIE Fighters while weaving and bobbing through debris

She fought Ren without having ANY previous lightsaber training, without ANY previous Force training, and managed to fight back enough to tire him out to the point of collapsing.

Luke didn't touch the controls for the Falcon, and the time he did try fighting the big bad of the movie when he was unprepared he got his ass handed to him.

I didn't want to believe the whole "Rey is a literal fanfic-tier Mary Sue" stuff, but after seeing the movie it really does just look like they made her as competent as she is to "prove" female protagonists are strong when all it does it point out why people typically don't like female protagonists
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>>78595917
>without having ANY previous lightsaber training, without ANY previous Force training

this shit again
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>>78595902
worst thing Vader did in the OT was kill some random officers
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>>78595917
>the time he did try fighting the big bad of the movie when he was unprepared he got his ass handed to him.
To be fair, Vader was the real deal. Kylo Ren may be legit bad with the force. You would never know how much he sucked because he's one of like, 5 people in the galaxy with any jedi training.
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>>78595811
Kylo told her she was strong in the Force and she was out of options so she tried the mind tricks she would have heard about from the stories.

It's the same way anyone learns anything: she lived in a melting pot where people from all different cultures lived and traded and traveled. Hell, many people have already said/suggested that Imperial leftovers from the Battle of Jakku would have stayed there and had families and shit, and they probably talked about Vader and the Jedi stories that they heard.

The film clearly established that Rey has been bathing in stories about the rebels and the force. So when someone with some authority on the matter goes "hey you've got the Force" she tries it out.