How's this movie lads? Does /co/ like it?
One of the best animated films of all time.
But I feel that this is to Pixar as what Anastasia was to Don Bluth: A masterpiece released after a series of flops and before another flop/s.
Also, Riley is best girl.
I never rooted for Joy because I understood that she was being a massive cunt, and literally everything that goes on is all her fault. I never empathized with any of the characters because they're all so one dimensional because of how they're supposed to function.
It is easily one of Pixar's weaker movies. It's certainly not Cars tier, but it doesn't "wow" in any way.
this is a wrong impression
the movie is widely liked and everyone has a favorite 'emotion'
however the few of us, a superior, master breed of fans, like riley the most. please don't use 'pedophile' to broadly, because the emotions-fags haven't earned it like us riley-bros have
I liked it. It's Pixar in its element, the odd couple adventure story peppered with genuine emotional moments that we've become familiar with through Toy Story, Up, Finding Nemo, and Wall-E. Not groundbreaking for them, but they tell these kinds of stories so well. It also benefits from coming after Cars 2, Brave, and Monsters University. It feels like a return to form rather than a retread.
>I never empathized with any of the characters because they're all so one dimensional because of how they're supposed to function.
Not really. I think you missed some important points in the movie.
Everyone in the theater cried throughout the entire movie. I was stony until the end when Riley comes home and her parents hug her and tell her everything's going to be okay.
My parents never apologized to me like that for anything.
They never hugged me either
A while ago, one of you anons said that someone on Tumblr was mad that Riley's First Date is with that white kid at the end of the movie and not someone Black or Asian or Latino or
female. Was that true? Never saw any proof.
Without any proof, I'm going to say that it is most definitely true.
But no, seriously, I'd say there's a good chance some idiot Tumblr user got all up in arms over an imaginary injustice and wrote a scathing piece on the inherent racism at Pixar.
It's more surprising when something innocent isn't triggering someone on Tumblr and causing them to rack up the likes and reblogs, thus giving them a sense of purpose, and meaning, knowing they're making a "difference" in the world.
>two white people can't go on a date anymore without baseless criticism
i really cant tolerate diversity extremists
Why are emotions represented by free thinking agents who seem to have executive function over what is supposed to be a conscious being of her own right? Are they supposed to be merely abstract representation of the inner turmoil of emotions, because they seem to act of their own volition. Yet at the same time when confront of with scenes of despair to main girl character, sadness who is supposed to be her own free thinking entity seems to involuntarily switch the girl's emotional state into one of sad feelings. This whole set up is further compounded when the girl "shuts down" and loses her core memories and personality traits, the seems like grounds for some very serious mental health issue like schizophrenia or something instead she just decides to get on a bus because she misses home, which is irrational but not pants shitting insane. I don't understand how the emotions are supposed to function in this.
>implying the 'self' exists, and consciousness isn't the combined effects of internal processes reacting to external stimuli
>Tomorrow's Wednesday you absolute retard
my fucking sides
For me it's a 6, maybe 7/10. Decent but fucking overrated. My main problem is that this kid looks like a damn schizophrenic. How can I relate with something whose entire life ic piloted by minions in her head? A fucking Evangelion has more autonomy.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's more than fine for a kids'movie, but anyine past 20 pretending it's geniuous has to be retarded. Also, why is everyone crying? I'll admit that the sacrifice of that freak was a good scene, but come on.
I don't think Riley and the emotions are really separate entities at all. It's pretty clear at certain points that what Riley is thinking and what the emotions are talking about are the same thing. I think it's best if you think of everything you see in Riley's mind is metaphorical, which can get confusing at certain points, but checks out for most of the film. The emotions acting of their own volition is representative of how Riley really doesn't have any control over her emotions except for using Joy to suppress Sadness and to direct the other emotions into positive avenues. When Joy and Sadness are gone (or when Riley is unhappy but unwilling to admit it) she loses control over the other emotions, and then cuts them off entirely until she lets herself feel sad.
Who's your friend who likes to play?
Bing Bong, Bing Bong
His rocket makes you yell "Hooray!"
Bing Bong, Bing Bong
Who's the best in every way, and wants to sing this song to say
Bing Bong, Bing Bong!
It's because there are a bunch of people who call themselves as riley-master-race bros who need to post their riley-faggot shits in every io /co/ thread.
Plus they constantly demand new pictures and works so they can jerk off to her
The car is on fire, and there's no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides and a dark wind blows
The government is corrupt
And we're on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn
We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine
And the machine is bleeding to death
The sun has fallen down
And the billboards are all leering
And the flags are all dead at the top of their poles
It went like this
The buildings tumbled in on themselves
Mothers clutching babies
Picked through the rubble and pulled out their hair
The skyline was beautiful on fire
All twisted metal stretching upwards
Everything washed in a thin orange haze
I said, "Kiss me, you're beautiful, these are truly the last days"
You grabbed my hand and we fell into it
Like a daydream or a fever
We woke up one morning and fell a little further down
For sure it's the valley of death
I open up my wallet and it's full of blood
I just thought it was alright. I personally wouldn't put it in Pixar's top five. I just felt like they could have been a tad more creative with some of the abstract concepts.
It seems like it resonates to different people. There were a few touching moments, but I felt the emotional impact of it to be really underwhelming.On the other hand I've got some friends who were fighting back tears because they could relate to some of Riley's experiences better.
I was pretty disappointed after watching it.
Maybe i expected to much, because so many people praised it so much.
I liked the design of the mind world itself, but every emotional scene was so predictable i couldnt get into it. The movie definitely had potential and alot of my friends liked it alot.
But for me it just felt like i have seen all those themes before in other stories, and handled better there.
OP here, just watched it, it was great.
Fucking Bing Bong almost made me cry
Pixar is finally back
This. When they made the final run and that music started up, I thought oh-No! Then Bing-Bong bails out.
Misty eyes... (dammit Pixar).
>mfw Bing Bong jumped
Usually the secondary conflict is better hashed out, a lot of focus was in Riley's head and her running away seemed disconnected for that plot even though they were essentially supposed to be one and the same.
Its a movie for smart well read children, particularly girls.
So practically no one.
True but coming into it without hype I enjoyed it.m After seeing some discussion after the fact I think it is a bit overhyped but that is mainly opinion and doesn't detract from my enjoyment.
I got "Spoiled" by /co/ and thought Bing Bong was a villain. I spent most of the movie not trusting him and thought he was gonna do something awful on that last run, but then he jumped out. I've never been more happy to be "spoiled" about something. Made his sacrifice that much more moving.
I didn't like it, it felt contrived in a lot of ways. It's basically a story about a kid that feels depressed and they have that dumbo character which was super annoying. It feels like the entire movie could have been much better simply by removing him.
I think Joy would be a blast to have around if she were real
I think the main problem of the latest Pixar movies is that they're essentially premised on a gimmicky idea, and everything after that is developed around that single concept. So they basically use this gimmick premise as a means of tempting people into watching that movie and make it worth watching, instead of focusing on a well-written script as a whole.
>Joy in a school uniform
>Fear in a schoolgirl outfit
Stop giving me impure thoughts
Man, I can understand the joyfags and even the disgustfags but this shit right here? Come on bruh
it was a kids movie. about as aimless as all the CGI kids movies over the past couple years. Worse than Ralph, better than Frozne and Rap Z. It's just not good or bad enough to justify any in-depth analysis
>her skin has an interesting texture
I read in "The Art of Inside Out" that they wanted the characters to have an ethereal look. As a particular Emotion became excited it became more... what's the word.. effervescent?
They don't look too ethereal because the effect is quite minimal. If the particle effects were more pronounced then yes. It would have been cool if for example for the orbs that made up Anger to vibrate and glow as he got angrier.
I think they decided against this ethereal look because it made the emotions seem less human, when emotions are very much human. Too much of a visual and thematic contradiction, so they scrapped the idea.
>Ill be there to back you up an make you an hero
It was really good, I want more movies like this.
Also the lesson was a really good thing to teach kids, because I didn't really learn that until I was in my teens to adult years.
A. >>78570297 is cropped porn btw
B. I wish, They are official social media images
I wish Joy said happy memories instead of core memories though
Well you know with Joy the memories will be happy hehe
I was going to say Disgust is pretty spunky but after a while she'd grate on your nerves & you'd end up smashing her teeth out. But I realized she did smile & shoe some empathy.
>she'd grate on your nerves & you'd end up smashing her teeth out.
I think it would be the other way around
Joy: "Ugh.. that's the last time i'll offer to make core memories with that guy."
>"You don't need to see what I'm going to do to you next."
Yes, I like it a lot.
As a film, it has some flaws near the end.
However, as a concept, I think it's one of the best that Pixar has ever come up with. I don't think I have ever seen a movie that approaches emotions in this way. It was very cleverly written and surprisingly educational.
Watching this movie made me realize how rather inept society is with understanding emotions. Emotions are such huge parts of being human, yet we aren't taught about them upfront. For the most part, it seems to me that learning about emotions as a human being is like playing a guessing game. There is no real education for emotions which is unfortunate.
I really hope we can see more movies like this that not only make us feel emotions but also teaches about them.
>"Come on Sadness, you gotta open your mouth wider if you wanna fit all of it in!"
>I think the main problem of the latest Pixar movies is that they're essentially premised on a gimmicky idea, and everything after that is developed around that single concept
this is generally how movies are made. You're whole post reeks of "I don't know what I'm talking about"
Calm down Disgust! You could use a glass of refreshing
See, I think the movie checks out way better when you think of the emotions more as filters than pilots.
At several points in the movie, the emotions influence an action, but at no point do they actually directly control Riley. For example, when Joy declares that Riley is going to go slide down the rail, Sadness counters this when she changes a memory. thusly, Riley no longer feels excited about the idea and drops it, only to do it again because Joy corrected everything. For another example, we see Riley talking in class and when everything falls apart, she keeps talking when Sadness takes over. Finally, when Riley is unable to feel anything, she still goes about on autopilot, just unable to express or feel anything.
TL:DR: the emotions motivate Riley to execute an action that has already started, or influence her response to information/stimuli.
When Riley sits down and hides behind her textbook she is clearly shocked; "Did I just fucking cry in class?" All the other emotions reacted in the same way but had something with agency on whom to pin the blame: Sadness. They still didn't know why they should blame her, but like a person, Riley could still blame herself for breaking down in class.
This is pretty much proof that Riley and the emotions are inextricably a whole. Their reactions are hers, and hers are theirs.
thanks for that correction.
I'd argue that she just sits down and looks at the textbook. Riley's certainly not feeling sad any more because Sadness isn't there any more, but I can't say there's much of a reaction on her face that points to shame or some kind of other emotion, even if she did feel shame, then there's not all that much to say that either Fear or Disgust didn't press anything to make her feel that way.
I will, however, give you that I like the "feedback loop" model you're going with. There's certainly some bits in the movie, like Disgust reacting to the smell of the dead mouse that work particularly well in favour of that.
I dont remember this part...
The part where sadness acts during the hockey game is in the film?
Joy is the most necessary emotion to achieve happiness, but so is the other emotions.
Joy, as in the sole emotion itself, is that excitement to get happy rather than the actual state of being happy/fulfilled.
First off, joy and sadness seem to be emotions that regard social sittuations or morality, balacing each other, whereas joy is very individualist and sadness is very empathetic.
Anger and fear are the most primal emotions, they are probably some manifestation of the flight or fight instinct and the dominative instinct.
Disgust is both types, but I consider her more of an secondary emotion.
You can have a good anger, fear or sadness memory. And you can also have a bad joy memory. A bad joy memory would be a memory of BOREDOM for example, as boredom is some form of repressed/infufilled joy. A god sad memory is basically some memory where you could fulfill your sadness, basically any love or companionship related memory.
Happiness is fulfillment, it is mistaken for Joy though. Joy is that excitement as I said, it isnt really the pleasure of fulfillment.
I just saw it yesterday and it was great. It kicked me right in the feels and I had to hold back Niagara Falls in my eyes several times.
There should also be more animated movies with villain protagonists.
Going to bump with some pics from inside folder
Riley doesn't just sit down and look at the textbook. She's clearly very shocked, and I'm of the opinion that she's shocked with herself. She's overwhelmed but doesn't know what to do, so she resovles to bottle it up, thinking this is the best option. This is why Joy and Sadness are sucked out of HQ, because Riley decides to ignore her own needs. This then causes conflict within herself, demonstrated by Anger, Fear and Disgust trying (but failing) to take the reins in Joy's stead.
My theory is also demonstrated when Anger proposes the idea of running away. When he suggests the idea to Fear and Disgust, this is merely a passing thought in Riley's mind. A furtive one that eventually returns in crushing force when Anger gets pissed after the nightmare wakes everyone up. She's pissed, her (Anger's) reaction is to go "fucking fuck this place" and she runs away. Again, when Fear poses his final "should we really do this" Riley momentarily comes to her senses, but Anger shuts Fear downs and you can see Riley grit her teeth. Notice how Anger isn't actually toycbung anything on the console at this point... it's very telling.
I like to think that the console represents instinct. When the emotions take over and actually manage Riley's actions, it's her instinct. When she's not being controlled by an emotion at the console, it's Riley in a more compos mentis state.
I like the couch they have in Headquarters, I could use it in my apartment
Lol. A bit of coprophobia huh..
Dammit Tim Hortons... get oughta my /co/
Joy + Anger also makes pride
Fear + Digust also makes embarassment
Sadness + Anger + Disgust makes resentment
Joy + Sadness + Fear makes nostalgia
Joy + Fear makes comfort
Joy + Anger makes mania
Sadness + Fear + Anger makes acceptance
For when someboby asks this again
Okay. so, the boiled down idea here is that the emotions - provided they're all within HQ - actually form Riley's entire thought process, but any action taken through the console finalises a concept or thought process, thus leading Riley to execute said thought process.
you know what, when you put it like that it's pretty watertight. My only sticking point here is where Riley's speech comes from. Riley must have some amount of agency in order to formulate sentences without the emotions directly speaking into a microphone.
how would you say that works?
Do you have the gory Joy. I remember a thread where one anon asked for more woman being brutally murdered for his fetish. Too bad I didnt save that one.
The one where she's inside out.
But why not both?
Sorry, don't have that one. Have a rare Fear instead.
But I do have the lewd: http://pastebin.com/0UuDjm3k
I can only postulate that actions made by HQ that require speech are diverted through to a speech processing "plant", filtered, and then executed.
Similar to how abstract thought operates separately from HQ but also influences how it operates, since abstraction can make emotions more diverse and complicated.
All the individual functions are like departments that, while separate, are linked together to create the whole that is Riley.
>Joy taking Disgust out to a fancy dinner, trying her best not to annoy Disgust
>Joy taking Fear to an amusement park and winning him the largest stuffed bear in a game
>Joy sending Anger love letters from inside his newspaper
>Joy cuddling on the couch with Sadness under the covers, whispering sweet nothings to her
>Joy taking her clone to the nearest room and having the happiest lesbian
or futa on femalesex that has ever existed
I would love to see this written.
Holy shit, this. I hate how how inside out threads completely ignores how she bullies Sadness.
Sadness looks like your typical tumblr bitch who writes gay fanfics
I would bully her too
Joy loves everyone, even Sadness
Only Disgust and Anger bully
Joy loves to bully is more like it
Disgust loves to bully more
>comparing sadness to tumblr
>not realising disgust is more tumblr
>not realising sadness is the pure one
>not realising anger is the irredemable shit one
Quick, tell me why Sadness is a great waifu?
I bet you are a Disgustfag aren't you?
She is the most emotionally comfy one. If you're searching for someone who would actually care for you. Joy is going to emotionally repress you when she can (even though she woul really be a blast to be around it). Disgust is just lewd.
>Joy is going to emotionally repress you when she can
Joy would just feel sad with you sometimes but she is energetic, she's active, she doesn't want to lay around, she wants to get shit done.
>If you're searching for someone who would actually care for you
Sadness may care but sometimes she might rain on your parade, nevertheless she's perfect.
Bump. Also, choose 4chan's top board in 2015.
/ck/ is the best board but it'll never win.
OP of the Riley thread here, oh well it looks like it died before this one.
I personally find /ck/ much more fun to flip through than /v/ or /co/, but that's probably just because I like reading all of the nutty stories from disgruntled food industry workers. /ck/ usually has about as much shitposting and dumb memes as any other board would though.
I find it weird that Riley's memories are viewed from a thirdperson perspective.
But it's for the audience I guess.
I think Disgust would find sex bothersome. It's Joy who would be randy
Disgust would be a prude. But if you get her in the mood, she'll be a freak but very controlling of the experience.
She does anything but it's hard to get her to do it.
Oh yeah, Joy is a total cuddle-bunny... heck, she hugs accordions and thought bubbles.
>I know you don't want me to, but... I miss home. I miss Minnesota. You need me to be happy, but I want my old friends and my hockey team... I wanna go home. Please don't be mad...
The Bingbong scene is incredibly overrated but that scene makes me tear up like no other.