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Spider-Man is back on the Marvel Payroll Thread #2

Footnotes and clarity:

>Under the deal, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film from Marvel's Cinematic Universe (MCU). Sony Pictures will thereafter release the next installment of its $4 billion Spider-Man franchise, on July 28, 2017, in a film that will be co-produced by Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago. Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger. Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films.

>Marvel and Sony Pictures are also exploring opportunities to integrate characters from the MCU into future Spider-Man films.

>As part of the revamp, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film. The companies are not revealing details but that movie is likely to be Captain America: Civil War; the character was a major player in the comics storyline. Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.

>Four future instalments in the Marvel Cinematic Universe have received new release dates through 2019, including Thor’s next solo adventure as well as the first films for Black Panther, Captain Marvel and the Inhumans!

>Marvel’s “Thor: Ragnarok” will hit theaters November 3, 2017. The following year, Marvel’s “Black Panther” will make its way to theaters on July 6, 2018, and Marvel’s “Captain Marvel” on November 2, 2018. Finally, Marvel’s “Inhumans” will now debut in theaters July 12, 2019.

>The previously announced dates for Marvel’s “Avengers: Infinity War Part 1” and “Avengers: Infinity War Part 2” on May 4, 2018 and May 3, 2019, respectively, remain unchanged.


Sources:

http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-swings-marvel-studios-772127

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31356142

http://marvel.com/news/movies/24065/marvel_studios_schedules_new_release_dates_for_4_films#ixzz3RLP7HxPk

On twitter trending:

Spider-Man
Andrew Garfield
Marvel Cinematic Universe
Miles Morales
Peter Parker
Sony
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>>69375414
most appropriate image for this topic
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>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
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Marvel Studios Fantastic Four when?
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So since they're recasting again is this pretty much Miles confirmed?

even though Miles is boring
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>>69375446
Peter Parker was confirmed in the original press release from Marvel.
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I'm getting scared at these dates

2019

jesus fucking christ we are inthe future

I'm not sure how I can take the year up going any further than 2015

I can't deal with this
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Because of how its worded its sad to see the Civil war play out like it did in the comics but Gladly SPIDERMAN is coming back
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>>69375414
Why should I be happy about this?

Amazing Spider-Man 2 wasn't that bad, and now that Marvel is getting Spidey back they're going to shove his 'new' movies in our face when they begin production.

Which will mean more people will read the current Spider-Man comics, meaning Dan Slott is on them for even longer. They'll also milk the shit out of him, and I just can't say I'm all too pleased with Spidey on Avengers. He works better solo.
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What stopping them from making an AoU post-credits scene featuring spiderman?
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No J.K. Simmons no party
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>>69375446
I disagree, I would love to see a Miles Morales adapted from the comics. About as interesting as current Amazing anyway. Fuck Spider-Verse was much worse than current Miles.

Miles isn't perfect but it's the best comic Spider-Man currently being printed.
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It's going to be Jack O'Conell
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>>69375455
Yep. Starting to think they may need to do 5 or 6 movies a year just to keep these dates from being so FAR
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>>69375466
Nothing
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WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU READ SPIDEY IN MCU CONFIRMED? INITIAL REACTIONS?
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>>69375414
>spiderman in civil war
I cant wait for spiderman to beat the living shit out of kingpin
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>>69375453
Black Peter Parker?
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>>69375471
Dude, we are celebrating. Git out
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>>69375470
>Spider-Verse
>Worse than current Miles
Nigga you high.
Spider-verse gave Miles actual personality.
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>>69375414
>Miles Morales
>trending

How does it feel to be so delusional?
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>>69375414
>>69375234
>>69375246
Best Spidey after-credit tease is actually not showing Spidey, but some JJJ scene about how all that happened in AoU was the fault of this new MASKED MENACE!
>PARKER! GET ME PICUTRES OF SPIDER-MAN!
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It'll be fun to see the how people will try and defend the ASM movies now, especially 2.

Expect 300% more "Well sure it was a clusterfuck with no plot, no actual villain central to the story and no character arc with tonal whiplash so bad it could snap Gwen Stacy's neck, but at least it's not an MCU movie!"

Also something something interesting failure over bland MCU something something.
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>>69375446
Charlie Day as Peter Parker
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Kind of hoping it's Miles.
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>>69375455
We're in the future and I don't feel as old as I thought I would. Not bad
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>>69375446
>Miles confirmed?
Why would they use a knock-off when they've finally got the real thing? It would be like them starting off Captain America with John Walker
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>tfw Maguire and Garfield fused together looks like a perfect Peter Parker
>tfw he does not exist and won't be cast as MCU Spidey
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>2015
>Marvel gets Spider-Man for multi-movie deal
>FOX and WB surely shitting bricks right about now
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>>69375500
Fuck off, Miles is an awful character.
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>>69375482
That would be retarded. Why waste a chance for Miles when 9/10 people don't give a shit what the cape's name is all their care about is the costume.

>>69375488
I'm not talking about Spider-Verse Miles though. Spider-Verse is just Spider murder porn when it should have been one big fuck yeah Spiders event.

They are just killing Spiders to make the Inheritors look bad ass which is shit writing. Deal with it.
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The only news I care about is who's gonna play Spiderman, if It's Drake Bell I might see the new Sony movie since he really needs the cash, Same with if it's an actor I like. If they just get an unknown though I'll probably skip it and wait till it hits Netflix.
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11/10 choice for the OP picture, mod-kun.
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>>69375462
To be honest I don't think Spider-man being in MCU Civil War is good from a story telling perspective. Well, the revealing his identity part.
I don't think that scene and plotline would have that much of an impact as it would if THIS incarnation of Spider-man already had an established character/story behind him.
This is the first time we will be introduced to this Spider-Man. Will audiences be able to comprehend the gravity or significance of Peter's reveal? This Peter who we have never seen before? We know only, what, an hour of information about (if that)?
I think it would have been better to at least have one stand alone "new" Spider-man movie before Civil War.
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Best Spider-Man was from 80s.
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>>69375510
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>>69375445
It's funny that Fox went ahead with FF, screwing Marvel but now need Marvel's say so to do tv stuff.
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>>69375446
No chance. Hollywood execs wouldn't put a black guy as the face of one of the largest fucking superhero brand ever.
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>>69375514
If it was the other way around, if they were jobbing completely, then you'd be complaining they aren't threatening enough.

Spiders that have no chance for another book are dying, be glad they at least got featured in SOMETHING other than fade into permanent obscurity.
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>>69375477
Who drew that? Quesada?
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>>69375466
Time might be an issue, if we do get something it'll be something simple like the back of a stunt guys head as he pulls the mask on, leaps off a building and we hear a thwip
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>>69375507
Jesus Christ, it's uncanny.
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Will they bring back J.K. Simmons?

>yfw when those 2 Amazing Spider-Man films were imagined by Jameson
>He shudders at thinking it
>this is his intro
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>>69375507
HOLY SHIT IS THIS REAL?
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>>69375539
based Stegman
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I guess Spider-man confirmed for Infinity War then.
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>>69375539
Stegman.
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>>69375532
>It's either black or white in my comic writing

How about, and stay with me here, they write them threatening without killing off a fuck ton of Spiders?
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>>69375507
Logan Lerman is close
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>>69375468
Now that's my tempo
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>>69375477
Mine was actually pretty subdued, but that's basically because I knew it was going to happen from Sony being hacked.
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>>69375477
>INITIAL REACTIONS?
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>more and more capeshit

SAVE US BASED JIM
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>>69375516
Fuck off. Any other choice but Grant is retarded. Die.
>>69375557
fuck off with your bieber clone
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>>69375477

I was doing the Tobey Maguire strut
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>>69375563
/tv/ pls
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>>69375523
Maybe do something in the Sony 2017 movie where it can hold some weight
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>>69375566
I would love this. Too bad he's already the mother fucking FLASH
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So are the Fantastic Four coming once that shitty reboot bombs?
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I know I'm supposed to feel happy, but the fact that every superhero movie now will be some overloaded crossover smorgasbord makes me feel uncomfortable.
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>>69375546
Marvel hates Simmons.
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>>69375550
>become spider-man
>first villain fight
>Thanos

truly Parker luck at its best
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>>69375414
OP which chapter does the picture from ?
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>>69375585
Hickman's Avengers.
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I thought you guys liked the ASM movies.
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>yfw Rick will never play Flash
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>>69375523
I hope that the new Spiderman Movie is a Prequel to Civil War. They should begin with the News footage and how all of it lead to this point of his reveal and then Peter should tell his Story how he became Spiderman, how he meet Fury and Ironman, what he did in the Battle for New York and the Ultron incident. And Civil War out of his Perspective. It should be like Forrest Gump with Spiderman.
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Excuse me for liking the new Electro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDyAouw3nUw
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>Potential Miles film
>Miles is trending

FUCK YES!
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>>69375577
>yfw integrated into MCU because of Reed Richards bending dimensions or whatever
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>>69375577
they'll probably crossover with x-men to salvage it first
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>>69375577
We can only hope. This certainly makes it more likely.
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>Captain Marvel and Inhumans delayed
>more time to force them on comics
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>>69375563
>capeshit
Capefilm.
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>>69375563
Spiderman doesn't have a cape you stupid cunt :)
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>>69375579
The fuck gave you that idea?
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>>69375598
I like this idea. although I liked that idea better when it was the Ant-Man plot, showing he was in all the previous Marvel movies but tiny so we never saw him
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/tv/ has already called it
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Spidy AOU's post credit scene confirmed
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>>69375595
Only faggots who never read comics liked it.
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>>69375603
Marvel will cockblock them. Fox has to pay them to make movies first.

I'm amazed that people defend the boring-ass Interstellar knockoff trailer as a sign the movie will be good, and that it was better than the Ant-Man trailer.
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>>69375563
The director of Aquaman?
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>>69375414
this really needs to have a continuous thread?
is there THAT much to discuss?
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Holy tuck Marvel REALLY wanted Spidey n MCU because this is the most one sided deal ever.

Sny holds the rights.
Sony gains the profits.
Sony has creative control.
JUST so Marvel can make a movie.

Basically free movie for Sony.
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>>69375579
He VAs in all 3 of their shitty cartoons
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>>69375631
fuck off cuck
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>>69375631
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>>69375621
>and that it was better than the Ant-Man trailer.
It was
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ZOMG STACKY
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>>69375606
>More time to fix their comics

FTFY

>>69375617
That makes literally no sense.
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While we're on the topic, I don't understand why Spidey is taking MCU release dates.

It's a Sony thing, Spidey should be using up a precious MCU slot.
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>>69375634
Marvel still get all the important money (merchandising) and more people will go to see their Avengers films.
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>>69375634
>Sony has creative control.
Then what changes?
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>>69375631
shut the fuck up, cuck
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>>69375598

So Spider-Man: Blue but not depressing?
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>>69375596
tfw he looks more like Barry Allen than Barry Allen
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>>69375631
>cucked by MCU
get cucked, DCUCK
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>>69375655
>>69375639
>>69375637
not a cuck, I just don't think there's much to actually talk about....
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>"Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films."

WHY
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>>69375477
I was mastrubating right here.
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>>69375664
they announced that Spider-Man will be in an MCU movie

they announced a new Spider-Man movie

not Andrew Garfield
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>>69375661
I think they meant Flash Thompson.
Flash Thompson is the Marvel universe's Barry Allen.
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>>69375665

In name only. They'll be bullied around by Marvel and Disney despite all that.
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>>69375604
No, it doesn't. Marvel and Sony were always cordial and collaborative, whereas Marvel and Fox hate eachother. Rights won't revert.
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>>69375665
Because Sony knows how much Marvel wants him back. Having complete control prior to this deal was ALL the leverage Sony had. It was either "give us complete control or you continue to never have Spider-man in MCU".
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>>69375507
Kind of looks like Michael Imperioli to me
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Remember how ASM2 had a teaser for the new X-men movie after its credits?

It's gonna be like that but with MCU stuff.
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>>69375664
Then don't.
There are continuous threads in the 100s about shitty webcomics that upload once a week on this board.
This gets a 2nd sticky because otherwise you'd get 500 threads about it.
Make dealings and go talk about something else.
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>>69375654
Feige. He'll be the one telling them what the story needs to do and where it needs to lead, it'll be up to Sony how they build around the Marvel framework.
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>>69375464
>Amazing Spider-Man 2 wasn't that bad

With an opinion like that you must eat cock.
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I wish they'd go with their plan of having Peter as an adult (and maybe even married to MJ). JMS had them interacting with the (New) Avengers pretty well.
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>>69375414
>and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago
What? And oversaw ASM and ASM2 and just got taken out of the CEO spot. Fucking wow.
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>>69375703
>With an opinion like that you must eat cock.
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>>69375640
>Fake philosophical narration.
>Shots ripped off of Nolan.
>Minimal use of superpowers.
>Boring Negative Zone.
>The "big shot" is just the four of them staring blankly at the giant beam of light from Halo 3.
>They actively try to make the movie look as generic as possible.

Literally the only reason people are defending it is because it didn't look as awful as people were expecting.
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>>69375634
kek, do you even spiderman?

spiderman makes tons of money in merchandise and if there is a successful movie there will be even more.

the biggest plus though is that Avi Arad is gone.
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>>69375498
ASM2 was messy with some good moments, but I'll always defend ASM. I'm watching it right now and it's an underrated, genuinely good movie
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>>69375477
This song starts to play in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SpWAnBjdNg
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>>69375477
Excited until I saw the delays for the other MCU films.
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>>69375677
When I was super little, I was watching the Flash series and Amazing Friends, wondering why Flash was being a jerk to Spider-Man
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>>69375713
It's called a teaser for a reason.
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>>69375684
Amy just had it put in there to save her job. The truth of the matter is that Marvel can walk out any time they want. Sony meanwhile has barely any successful films.
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>>69375739
Didn't she just quit her job or something along those lines?
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ⓆⓊⒺⓈⓉⒾⓄⓃ

What's stopping Sony to do a shit movie afterwards? Seriously I just want good movies i don't care about cinematic universes, although deeply enjoy them, what if Sony make a complete mess like Amazing Spiderman again?
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>>69375718

Lizard is an undercooked mess of a villain and the "Ben's killer' storyline is downright terrible. The action is really boring outside of the school sequence and that crane sequence is fucking retarded, even more so then the "YOU MESS WIT ONE OF UZ" scene from the RaimiMan movies.

I know there's going to be a lot of "HURR RAIMI FANBOY" shit, but I was honestly excited for this movie. SM3 proved we needed new blood and getting an indie director like Webb seemed like a good idea, also with a genuinely great cast. But they fucked up every aspect to make it a franchise-builder instead of an actual movie. it's the worst example since Iron Man 2, only to be topped by ASM2. It's a nothing movie, it's a fucking glorified TV pilot and it's practically shot like one. Webb's direction was amateur hour workmanlike crap.

It's better then ASM2 and SM3, but it's not good.
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>>69375725
I'm only really excited for Cap 3 and Infinity War, thankfully they didn't delay those.
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>>69375713
The interview the director gave where he was talking about going with an approach similar to "The Fly" is more a reason why people "defend it" (not that a movie that isn't even out yet needs to be defended).
I'm genuinely curious, it should be different from other cape films, which in itself is kind of a good thing.
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>>69375760
Kevin Feige is the producer. Marvel can and will walk away if Sony fucks with them, and Sony Japan will fire anyone who makes Marvel walk away.
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>>69375716
Avi Arad is now going to be responsible for turning MGS and GitS movies into piles of shit.
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>>69375777
For all the butthurt of "not muh FF", I honestly wouldn't mind seeing this guy remake the fly and call it FF. I somehow doubt that's what Fox let him do, but still, it would at least be interesting.
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>>69375784
Thanks
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>>69375760
I don't think they *want* to do a shit movie, and it will be co-produced by "Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel". Which is not a guarantee of a great film either but there you go.
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>>69375631
People are going to discuss it today, as they wake up and hear about it. Would you rather have it contained to one sticky on the very front page, or a dozen of the same "This happened, holy shit" threads at once?
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>>69375770
>and that crane sequence is fucking retarded, even more so then the "YOU MESS WIT ONE OF UZ" scene from the RaimiMan movies.

Seriously. At least the Raimi film had the 9/11 excuse
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>>69375788
>MGS movie turns out shit
At least we still have Cap 2 brother.
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>>69375523
There have been five Spider-Man movies, even considering the fact that it'll be a new continuity everyone already knows what the deal with Spider-Man is.

It's like how they don't need to explain that Batman is hardcore about protecting Gotham in BvS, they've been over this enough times.
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>>69375743
She's still attached to the only money making franchise she had. Does it really matter who it says she's employed by?
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>>69375796
Sure, but that puts the whole "disability superpower" thing in another light. At least we know he got the idea from a good source.
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I have hard time understanding why /co/ is hyped about this since Marvel has done maybe two good movies.
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>>69375788
>MGS
Kojima can do that all on his own, thank you very much.
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>>69375814
I'm ready to see him kick some Sinister Six ass.

That movie's been squashed, right?
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>>69375833

hi /tv/, you can fuck off now.
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>>69375788
> Avi Arad
> MGS
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>>69375770
I disagree. The storyline was solid, and I enjoyed the Lizard. I also liked the character progression and how Uncle Ben's killer factored in it. The action scenes were entertaining enough, and I actually love the crane scene. Probably my favorite swing yet in all five movies.

And it wasn't really trying to build a franchise as much as it was setting up the Green Goblin, before Sony intervened and cut half the plot in half. The parents subplot wad originally a one-off.
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>>69375784
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>>69375802
I thought Kevin wanted to make a proper Thor film after two failures?
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>>69375814
I never said anything about origin story. I don't want another origin story. It's about character development. Yes this is still Spider-man, but it's a NEW Spider-man.
There needs to be some character building before you drop a massive twist like Civil War on a character. That moment "worked" (debatable) in the comics because of all the history behind the character. This new Spider-man won't have that.
Lets say for argument's sake that Black Panther remains in Civil War instead of Spider-Man. T'Challa reveals his identity to the world in the movie. Would you care?
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>>69375812

Exactly. That scene is campy and silly, but within the cultural context of he time it's forgivable. Also it does sort of feel like something out of the Ditko/Lee Spider-Man era, which is what the lifeblood of that first film was made up of.

That crane sequence is a campy moment in a film that's going for Nolan-esque serious drama. It had no place in the rest of the movie.

>>69375833

Because all of them have been better then the Webb films. I don't give a shit if Marvel, Fox, or even fucking WB owns Peter at this point. Hell, sell it to Archibald the Hobo King for all I care, but Sony has shown nothing but complete and utter incompetence with the ASM franchise and the leaked documents only bear that out even more.

Now we have someone other then the fucking monkeys at Sony overseeing the project. That's all I want.
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>>69375788
>Avi Arad is responsible for removing Hayter.

Why does this man have so much power
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>>69375834
After all, he's been making MGS movies for years now.
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>>69375464

Amazing Spider-Man 2 was awful. That fucking web hand.
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>>69375760

SONY owns the movie rights to Spidey, so they can release a movie like that and Marvel cant do anything about it.

What they are doing is lending the character over and with good will and cooperation continue to make Spidey movies in the MCU continuity. Hell, they might just add the amazing series as background already.
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>>69375838
It was a genuine question you prick. IM was good and TWS was passable but rest was below average are outright terrible.
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>>69375770
NO, they fucked up because they would let Webb make the movie, and kept fucking him over and making him change shit.
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>>69375725
Well if nothing else that gives them more time to polish those scripts.
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>>69375873
Okay, sounds reasonable I guess.
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>>69375798
>>69375860
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>>69375807
ok, when you put it like that, it makes more sense.
>>69375845
the swinging is great, all the webslinging in TASM/2 is fucking orgasmic, and TASM as the added bonus of much of it being real.

but "my kid was saved, I gotta help spidey!!1" nah, fuck that bullshit.
i hated it in 2012, I hated it in 2004, and I hated it in 2002
its fucking dumb.
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>>69375833

Because anything, anything, is better than another Andrew Garfield movie. Fuck the Amazing Spider-Man 2 with a pitchfork.

What an abortion of a movie.
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>>69375865
>T'Challa
tag spoilers pls
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>>69375877
>Hell, they might just add the amazing series as background already.
ITS CONFIRMED TO BE A NEW SPIDER-MAN
CONTINUITY REBOOT
why is this hard for people to fucking understand when it's been laid out already?
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>>69375865
Well I didn't say anything about origin either. I'm saying people are already familiar enough with the character that they don't need to see a whole movie to understand why it's a big deal.

But despite that I don't think they should or will reveal his identity because it's the first movie and they'd have to One More Day it immediately.

Wait, how would we react if the first MCU Spidey movie was actually One More Day?
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>>69375414
>On twitter trending:
>Miles Morales

Why would they use Miles Morales when they already have Peter Parker, wouldn't it make more sense to use Peter until said actor's contract runs out in which they replace him with Miles?
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I can taste those delicious tears of ASM fags who said Sony and Marvel will never make a deal and that ASM 3 will happen and Garfield>Tobey


Glad I still dont have to watch ASM2 after the abomination that was ASM1
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>>69375941

It's already confirmed to be Peter. But Garfield is out.
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>>69375877
Isn't there a matter of "first appearance " or something like that, tough? Like, Deaht head appeared first in the Marvel continuity, before becoming a recuring vilain in the Transformers Marvel comic so that MArvel can claim it is a Marvel character and not a Transformers character.

By appearing in the MCU first, Couldn't Marvel claim that iteration of Spiderman belong to them and if they think Sony disrespec that iteration of Spiderman, they can go "no, fuck, this isn't our Spider Man, Sony is like, tottaly a different Spiderman than Mine Spiderman and Sony can't play with my other toys anymore". or something like that?
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>>69375941
Are you all ready for peter to be and already established street level hero and dieing in the first movie he appears in and then getting replaced by miles
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>>69375947
>It's already confirmed to be Peter

Can I have sauce please
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>tfw they hire Tobey so we will feel the "emotion" when spidey takes his mask off
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going to celebrate this news by buying Spidey comics, are there any recommendation lists for them out there?
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>>69375968
I actually wouldn't mind if they did that after a few movies. Might be a nice progression.
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>>69375414
>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.

Probably for the best.

For all its (many) faults, the ASM series pretty much ran on the strength of Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone's chemistry. There's a reason why they cut the MJ scenes out of ASM2 when there was all that other bloat they could've picked. With her character dead, ASM3 would've sputtered.

Unless they did some sort of riff on the Clone Saga, like when they brought Gwen back as Ultimate Carnage, but there's way too many ways for that sort of plot to go wrong.
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I just wish they'd do a little side character stuff. I want to see Pete be all Archie Andrews with MJ and Deb Whitman while blowing off steam by pranking Flash after JJJ has chewed him out for shitty pics. I wasnt a TSSM movie, I guess
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So no Sinister Six?

Thank fuck.
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>>69375984
Anything that tie with Spider-verse but isn't actually written by Slott.
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>>69375975

Read the press release.
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>>69375864
I'm sure he wants to... how does that contradict what I said?
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>>69375982
>"Fuck, he got old"
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Is it true the people hoping for Miles just have massive white guilt or are black themselves? No one could unironically want that shit over Parker.
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>>69375941
>make more sense to use Peter until said actor's contract runs out in which they replace him with Miles?

Usually studio contracts involving multi picture deal are not mutually binding, meaning studios usually can opt out of the contract but the actor cannot (like in the case of Terrence Howard with IM 2)

Sony very likely has no legal obligation to continue using Garfield. Marvel has already made their dislike of Garfield known so its very likely we get a new person as Spider-Man
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>>69375601
fund it
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So what level of involvement does Marvel even have with the stand-alone Spidey films because it sounds like Sony's still able to continue making shitty Spider-Man movies.
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>>69375941

I have no idea why anyone would want Miles. As a fan of Ultimate Spider-man, I've been immensely disappointed with Miles; He doesn't even have his own plotline! All his stories were the loose ends cribbed from Peter Parker...Until they outright brought Peter Parker back!

So far, his storylines involved:
1.) Being bitten by another spider, similar to the one that created Peter Parker.
2.) Becoming Spider-man in order to take up Peter's legacy.
3.) Dealing with Venom, a creature created by Peter's father.
4.) Ultimates.
5.) Fighting Norman Osborn, Peter Parker's nemesis. (And dealing with Peter returning to life.)

Even Bendis couldn't make Miles interesting. He has, what, his supervillain uncle? (Whom he killed.) His dad, a former SHIELD agent?

Uh...Norman Osborn being obsessed with Miles, too? What does Miles have going for him, besides the Venom Blast?
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>>69375473
>another brit scum playing a true american hero

pls no

ps fuck cook
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>>69375941

Miles is never going to happen the same way a Kamala Khan movie isn't going to happen. And it has nothing to do with race, as much as people claim otherwise.

They're both too new. They barely have a consistent supporting cast, unique rogues gallery or iconic story arcs to their name. There's nothing to work with in either case for a set of movies, they're un-molded characters.

We honestly have a better chance of getting a 2099 Spidery movie then a Miles Morales movie. And as much as my dick would get rock hard at that idea, that's also never going to happen either.
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>>69375880
I'll give you my quick and dirty, probably WRONG, opinion:

People on /co/ shit on IM3, but I got to see it opening night for free and it was a fucking blast. Loved every second of it. I get people complaining about the lack of Iron Man, the over saturation of the suits at the end, and the fire powers people, but the movies' main appeal has always been RDJ's Stark, and this was by far the best of the IM movies to for that.

Captain America was okay. This is probably about the baseline of what people mean by "bland MCU films." I'd probably place it on par with ASM, if not a little better. Not exactly making a hard list here, though.

Avengers was fun to watch at the time, but I've only seen it once and will admit the critique it gets around here is probably accurate for the most part. It was probably mostly the hype from the preceeding movies. I distinctly remember being a little annoyed at how all the characters, regardless of their personalities, ended up quipping and being WHEDON characters even back then.

GotG was every Avengers was trying to be, but better. It managed to do an ensemble movie with having 5 movies to set up the characters before hand. It also managed to be a fun movie without falling into the "everyone talks like a Whedon character" banter of Avengers and actually had some moving moments. It's the only movie aside from IM1 I've seen twice, in theaters no less, and I'd easily see it again. There are good reasons it took off like it did and blew ASM2 out of the water domestically (though not overall).

Aside from that, both Thor movies were pretty forgettable aside from a few amusing scenes. It's pretty obvious Loki stole the show in Thor 1 and Avengers and so they squeezed him into Thor 2. Never seen the Incredible Hulk, probably never going too. I might see a Mark Ruffalo Hulk film, or even just "Stark and Banner's Wild Science Adventure." Looking forward to seeing what happens with the Hulk in AoU.
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>>69376020
>Marvel and Sony Pictures are also exploring opportunities to integrate characters from the MCU into future Spider-Man films.
Marvel won't lend any of his toy with Sony if Sony doesn't play with Spidey the way he want it. And then Sony will have to play with Marvel's toy also the way he want it or he is taking them back.
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Holy shit it's real!
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>>69376011
I'm part black and latino, I like Miles, and I will be damned if I get that shit when all the cards are in place for a perfect Spidey franchise. Peter Parker or bust
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>>69375982
You'll feel the feels when it's Donald Glover
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>>69375414
>#2
The new moot should start getting checks from Marvel.
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>>69376029
still, it would be rather funny if they killed Andrew Garfield by killing Peter. and Marvel will do this in 10 years to their Peter if they still have producer control by then.
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>>69376036
All in all, though, the majority of the Hype can be summed us by the MCU being THE Marvel universe representation on the big screen. Spider-Man being a part of that is a big thing.

We've had Marvel movies for years, but the MCU is the one that brings all this stuff together and has at least a consistent ability to put at passable at worst and great at best movies that don't just shit the bed.
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>>69376036
>I distinctly remember being a little annoyed at how all the characters, regardless of their personalities, ended up quipping and being WHEDON characters even back then.
I really never get that critique. Not seeing it at all.
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>>69376044
Doesn't the same apply with Spidey appearing in other Marvel films since Sony still has creative control?
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>>69376053
The only thing I can think of is to prevent the pages from destroying browsers and computers.

Remember what happened to that /a/ thread that moot posted in during his goodbye? It took MINUTES to load that thing.
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This news makes me want to jump and pretend to have web shooters like I did when I was 9.

Based fuckin' Spidey.
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>>69375635
>EMH
>Shitty
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>>69376010
But didnt some people wanted a mature spidey? I know choosing Tobey again will probably not happen, but a man can dream
>>69376052
If they go with Miles I prefer Gambino a thousand times over a guy as Jaden Smith or some shit like that
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Marvel needs to save Ghostbusters and possibly Men in Black.
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>>69376036
>and so they squeezed him into Thor 2
Squeezed? The movie is mostly about Thor and Loki's relationship.
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Hope we get a real Venom out of this, or at least someone that hasn't been done like Kraven or Mysterio.
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>>69376067
Actually I'm talking about all this Disney shilling.

inb4 sonyfag, foxfag, warnerfag. I learned to stay away from cape movies thanks to /co/.
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>>69375572
>Who is Chris Evans?
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>>69375482
I'm getting sick and tired of you pushy niggers.

When the time comes to cast a childhood favorite you're all lobbying for Basketball-Americans to get the role because "muh diversity", "enough with the white men named Chris"...

Fuck you self centred cunts.

What about Asians or Hispanics? Natives or Eastern European? You've already got War Machine, Falcon, Heimdal, and Luke Cage and Black Panther coming up.

Think of someone else for once you damned dirty apes.
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>>69375532
Spiders that were well liked were brutally murdered by shit OC characters in the worst way possible.
Why?
To play up beyond shitty spider-people that NO ONE FUCKING CARES ABOUT!

Killing off fucking spiderman and his amazing friends will not make anyone like fucking spock silk kain or flash venom AT ALL. They are damned to obscurity and will carry the weight of being the REASON that so many good spider charcters that people like had to fucking die. No one outside of comics knows or fucking cares about those faggots and from their horrible fucking sales and total lack of fucking appreciation from anyone outside of shills no one gives a fuck amongst the degenerate comic addicted masochistic geeks either.

This event is a fucking failure and I'll be goddamned if I ever fucking buy or purchase or watch another spiderman event after this.

I even fucking stood by and watched OMD go down and the subsequent retardation that followed go down.

This is it.
I can't do it anymore.
I'm fucking done.
Comic spiderman is dead to me.
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>>69376092

You'll get Agent Venom.
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>>69376078
>Forgot he revoiced him in EMH
If only we could get more TSSM cartoon now
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>>69376049
Sounds good. During the race wars you will be spared friend.
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>>69376036
>Avengers was fun to watch at the time, but I've only seen it once and will admit the critique it gets around here is probably accurate for the most part. It was probably mostly the hype from the preceeding movies. I distinctly remember being a little annoyed at how all the characters, regardless of their personalities, ended up quipping and being WHEDON characters even back then.
Not the guy you're answering to but I didn't watch it till like 2013 after /co/ was saying how shit it was, and I ended up pleasantly surprised. It's really not as shit as people make it out to be.
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>>69376060
Thor's "he's adopted" line sticks out. It's sort of out of place, considering how big a part Loki being Thor's brother, no qualifiers, is to Thor's character in both his films.

Black Widow's "I don't see how that's a party" also comes to mind, but it my just be the ways Scarlett Johansson voiced it. It sounded incredibly off.

It's honestly been awhile since I saw it, so that's all I can remember. And it's really not the worst Whedon thing when it comes to this, I know that. Maybe /co/'s just rubbed off on me. I liked the banter, but I still kind of recalled it being a bit much.

Captain America's "I understood that reference" is actually a nice, in character joke, showing off how dopey of a guy he still is in the modern world.
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Nice tr-

>Sticky

THANK YOU BASED LICH
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>>69376011
>No one could want something I don't want

Comic fans are literally the worst fan base
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>>69376104
Oh shit, it's true. What about Slott's crappy Spider-Man run? Is he going to resurrect all those dead Spideys now that things have changed?
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>>69376107

Please no.

I miss the salivating space stalker.
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>>69376103
>tfw still no Amadeus Cho/Herc movie which would show Thor movies how it's done
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>>69376108
Unfortunately since SSM was Sony, I think this deal blows any chance of S3 out to orbit ;_;
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>>69376011
>being black invalidates your opinion

Fucking Americans
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>>69376107
Yes please.
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>>69376087
If only they could get someone like JMS on it to make some cinematic Real Ghostbusters
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>>69375414
>tfw this scene wont happen
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>>69376117
Whereas moviefags are highly intelligent, right?
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>>69376088
Squeezed was perhaps the wrong word, I certainly didn't mind it and it didn't stick out editing-wise.

But it's still well known they went back and shot additional Loki scenes to get that sweet Hiddleston press.
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>>69376115

The party line would be terrible regardless of whoever said it. It's so generic deadbeat humor. It's a nonjoke.
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>>69376115
those lines are really the only ones that were in any way bad.

otherwise i didnt see the whole "everyone talks the same" thing at all.


that black widow line was cringeworthy tho
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>>69376103
They twins in the avengers are supposed to be gypsies. They aren't.
And god knows the gypsies need a good rolemodel in media.

I have not heard a fucking peep out of you fucking people about that.

Only that you don't want a character to be played by a black person.
You disgust me.
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>Thor, Panther, Marvel, and Inhumans pushed back for Spider-Man
Why? Couldn't they have put it in early 2017 where they had nothing? Now they've likely got to re-evalutate the story for those movies, besides Thor, now that they all take place after Infinity War.
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>>69376049
Your race doesn't make your opinion any more valid? Why do people do this? My race not withstanding I want a Miles film
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>>69376115

I'm fine with the Whedoning of the characters in the Avengers movies. Even looking at it from the comic book perspective, big team-up stories always have the complexities of the individual characters shaved off to serve the taste of the writers style.

I also wish people would stop saying "hurr you mean Iron Man the Movie guest-starring the Avengers" when you'd basically have to be legally blind and deaf to think that's true, but that's clearly not going to happen.
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>>69376066
Marvel is the rich Kid who has almost all the toys.
Sony is the poor kid who has just one toy the rich kid doesn't have but would like to.

So, if Sony want to play with all the toys the rich kid has, he has to play by the rich kid's rules, even for his own toy.
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>>69376129
That shit needs to be an animated short, Disney
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>>69375572
As much as he probably loves playing Barry I'm sure he wouldn't think twice if Marvel came along offering him the chance to play their biggest superhero in a multimillion dollar movie franchise.
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>tfw we'll get Evans Cap and Spidey in the same movie
>tfw Spidey will be a Cap fanboy
This day is amazing, /co/.
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>>69375468
>>69375546
J.K. dropped some pretty heavy hints that he could be taking up the role again about a week ago.
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Maybe if this works Fox will do the same with Fantastic Four.

But not X-Men. They can keep that.
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>>69376092
oh man a kraven movie would be amazing

in fact i think a mysterio/kraven team up would work out great.
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>>69376151
Well, let's not forget that the rich kid sold the toy to the poor kid when the rich kid was poor and the poor kid was rich.
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>>69376113
Oh no, I still regard it fondly. I actually loved the banter, but I'm also not as tired of Whedon as others might be. Really all I've seen of him is Firefly, and the movie, and that one episode of Buffy where Seth Green fucks the other werewolf chick. And the musical, I guess.

I should really rewatch Avengers to get all refreshed on it.
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So have they started filming Civil War yet or is there still time to work Spider-Man into the plot?
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>>69376147
It's not about validation. Just because I'm black doesn't mean I have to want a Miles Morales movie though
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>>69376131
Nice strawman considering I never even said that.
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>>69376168
sauce, anon. I wont have my hopes high without a sauce.
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>>69376092
Venom movie then Maximum Carnage
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>>69376180
No
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>Inhumans after IW pt.2
So how the hell are they killing Thanos then? Those were the type of heavy hitters they needed.
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>>69376056
Considering Spider-Man is Marvel's flagship character, yeah, it's really a big thing.

It would be like if DC had an established shared movie universe with no Superman in it. It would feel weirdly empty.
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>>69376115
Each of those lines still fit the characters and the context. They are funny on their own and don't really bring contradictions. Even in Avengers itself, we still get to see the strong relationship between Thor and Loki.

>>69376115
>>69376133
>Black Widow's "I don't see how that's a party" also comes to mind
My take on it has always been that everyone has started to make banters and she isn't on the page. She is like, what the fuck are you all talking about. She is a professional who doesn't kid when she does her job and she can't encompass anyone would make a crack during a moment like this.

The joke is that the joke is flying over her head.
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>>69376178
They start filming in April and I'm pretty sure they had 2 scripts in case the Spidey deal would work.

Black Panther will probably have just a cameo now and Spidey will take his place.
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>>69376189
nice chat
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>>69376107
Please no
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>>69376174
Its a story that almost write itself.
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>>69376163
Why arent they fucking?
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>>69376195
you now, your explanation makes it work somewhat
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>>69376115
>>69376137
"Puny God" is totally an Hulk line. Fuck the haters on that one.
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>>69375566
>Marvel casting a CW tier actor
I don't think they are that desperate
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>>69376160
You know that the little match girl tale, the reference for that spiderman story, had an adaptation made by disney on 1937 right?
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>>69376147
Read the post of the guy he replied to you tard.

My race not withstanding, I don't want a Miles film. He's way too boring.
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>>69375414
Miles Morales can be done, you just need to explain he was bitten by the same spider (like Silk, without the Bride mary sue shit), but instead of going out with his powers like peter, he tries to continue his life normally, studying and going to school, until he is forced out.

It's not that difficult to have both of them, just slightly different than the canons.
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>>69376211
Spidey and Storm or Spidey and Cap?
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>>69376228
It had one in like 2005 too
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>>69376195
>The joke is that the joke is flying over her head.
Needed

BW "I don't see how that's a party"
Cap "Heh" and smiles at her.
BW Looks at him and goes "What" in a really serious manner
Cap looks at her gives a look realizes she wasn't making a joke and then says "okay"
Cue the rest of the movie .
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I'm kinda wishing for Sinister Six to be their debut. Like, Peter is already an established crime-fighter who thwarted plans of a couple of villains and now they're out for payback. You don't need much of a setup for this, a couple of short flashbacks and hints could answer any question about them. Most people could recognize characters like Mysterio, Doc Ock, Kraven, maybe Sandman, so you don't need to explain too much stuff and dwell in their origins.

And when Peter kicks their asses, they can make way for the SUPERIOR Sinister Six. Yes or yes?
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>Be spidey fan for almost two decades
> First movie not bad, with power ranger goblin and everything
>Second movie has freaking Doc Ock all over, my pants are wet
>"Third will be good!"
>Third shits all over the place
>"aw man... maybe next time"
>The Amazing Spider-man in production
>"hey, the kid kindda looks like Peter i guess, maybe it will be good"
>it's not
>second movie
>"maybe now... maybe..."
>it sucks harder than ever
>lose all hope
>Marvel gets the web head back
>"Oh God, please, don't play with my feelings anymore"
>pants gettign wet again

I Anyway, i wonder who will be the villain...
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>>69376151
Marvel might be the rich kid with all the toys, but Sony arguably has the better toy.
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>>69376226
>CW means bad
Grant and Tom and Rick and Joe are legitimately good actors.
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>>69375470
Being the best Spider-Man comic in print at this time really isn't saying much.

Nigga has done fuck all out of Pete's shadow in what, 2-3 years?
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>>69376193
more like if they had no batman and actually had to make good movies with other less popular characters for 8 years

Still I'm not sure how Spider-man will fit in
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>>69376183
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/J-K-Simmons-J-Jonah-Jameson-Again-Here-What-Actor-Said-69541.html

In light of the recent announcements, it's basically confirmed.
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When does Civil War start filming?
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>>69376245
>I Anyway, i wonder who will be the villain..

there's still time to cast Al Swarengen as Kraven
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>>69376168
I second >>69376183, where's da sauce ?
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>>69376232
Why do you want Miles? Is it because he's black OR do you want him because he's a kid and can be a sidekick to an adult superhero?
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>>69375470
>>69376248
>Miles isn't perfect but it's the best comic Spider-Man currently being printed
>Being the best Spider-Man comic in print at this time really isn't saying much.
It doesn't sound like you're talking about Spider-Man 2099 there, anons.
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Imagine the team ups potential.
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>>69375433
This one works too
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>>69376117
I would put white guilt faggots close to worse people which is the majority of people tweeting about miles
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>>69376168

I dont give a shit about anything else. ALL I FUCKING WANT IS THIS

FUCK DID I JUST COME IN MY UNDERWEAR JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Man really glad he did Whiplash cause this could make him an asset in both MCU and Sony standalone
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So let me get this straight

Spidey will most likely first show up in Infinity War Part 1

And the first time he gets a standalone movie will be after Part 2? After the climax of almost 10 years of Avengers hype?

Can't they write him in Civil War instead of Black Panther and try to squish a movie out before Part 1?
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>>69376243
let's just do classic and iconic things first, not new shit.
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>>69376250

>Warner without Batman

I'm imagining the WB studios exploding like the ending of Fight Club

>We have to make a movie of someone else? OH GOD IT'S ALL OGRE BURN IT ALL DOWN
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>>69376265
Not that anon. I wouldn't mind if Miles got his own movie. But for the MCU? Nah, I need Peter Parker.
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>>69376202
>Black Panther will probably have just a cameo now
idk, man.
They introduce vibranium and Klaw in AoU, you can't really sit on BP too long.
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>>69376262
April.
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>>69376263
>Al Swarengen
Too old and fat. But I can see your point.
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>>69376264

He was on Howard Stern.
http://screenrant.com/new-spider-man-movie-j-k-simmons-returning/
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>>69375470
>Miles isn't perfect but it's the best comic Spider-Man currently being printed.
Spider-Man 2099 is way better.
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>>69376232
Just face the fucking fact: there's no fucking reason for them to make Spider-Man black, be it Miles or black Peter.
There is not 1 fucking reason.
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Why the fuck do people want Miles Morales?
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>>69376245
If it's Mysterio then casuals will be interested in Mysterio which means more Mysterio stories, which can be bad and completely ruin his character. Like make him le quirky.
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JJJ (played by JK Simmons) would make perfect sense in MCU cause spidey would be like the only prominent masked hero and JJJ could be like why ids spidey the only faget who wears the mask. Whats he got to hide?

A JJJ origin subplot either in the movie or AOS would also be pretty good explaining his phobia of masked men
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>>69376263

>not casting Viggo Mortenson as Kraven

Come on m8
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>ANOTHER spider man origin story
I hope you aren't happy about this
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>>69376312
Muh diversity.

90% of those complaining are SJW white girls.
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>>69376289
oh I guess that's enough time
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>>69376326
>implying it will be an origin story
If anything it will be more like the script James Cameron had written before Raimi's movies.
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>>69376326

Marvels new standpoint is 'No more origin stories'. Even though this is still Sony I could see it applying here too, nobody wants to see that again, nobody needs to.
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>>69376275
no, he will show up in civil war or dr strange (guess which one), then get a MCU produced film in 2017.
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>>69376297
Thanks !
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>>69376250
Yeah but no Batman would probably actually improve a shared universe sometimes story-wise, whereas Spidey pretty much always works with other characters.
But then you're not wrong in saying it may divert some ressources and attention (it kind of already is) from lesser known franchises.

>Still I'm not sure how Spider-man will fit in
I'm not sure what you aren't sure of exactly. Have you read comics featuring Spider-Man and the Avengers?
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>>69376312
He's the only black superhero they know.
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>>69376211
She hates him now because he's not a mutie and how dare he teach muties on how to be responsible heroes.
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>>69376312
I kike him?
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>>69376271
I swear to fucking god if that story about scarlet witch basically resetting time at the end of avengers 2 through bullshit comic powers is real...

the entire fucking cinematic universe will be in danger of being shat on by EVERYONE.

No movie after that will EVER be able to have even a single moment of tension and nothing will ever have weight or meaning again.
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>>69376271
Wanda looks like she's gonna shove that hex up Spidey's ass.
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>>69376326

If it isnt Miles it would make perfect sense not to do an origin story again

They could do the opening credit montage in the standalone, there is already precedence with TIH for this
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>>69376275
Not quite, anon.

First film is in 2017, but he'll show up in a Marvel made MCU (this is gonna get confusing, especially if they work out a similar deal with Fox for F4) before then. Most likely what this anon said: >>69376346
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>>69376365
nice Freudian slip.
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I'm sort of hype, but can't help but wonder if other films will suffer. Like do they have any real motivation to do Black Panther or Inhumans well anymore.
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>>69376275
No, his first movie is after GotG2, and he's going to pop up in a movie before that. Everything that was initially past GotG2 but the Infinity Wars got pushed back.
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>>69376255
>http://www.cinemablend.com/new/J-K-Simmons-J-Jonah-Jameson-Again-Here-What-Actor-Said-69541.html

>The Academy Award nominee didn't go into extreme detail about how he's been making deals with Sony and figuring out his return, but did instead offer, "I just heard that we…that’s a possibility."
>The radio host followed up by asking if Simmons would grab the opportunity if it were presented to him, and the actor responded in the very positive affirmative, saying, "Absolutely."

I'M SO HARD RIGHT NOW!
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>>69376275

No he's basically getting the same deal Black Panther is, shows up in Cap 3 then gets a solo film. Hopefully this doesn't mean Panther just got pushed to the sidelines.
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>>69376358
>Disney will never make a Blade movie
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>implying the theme song wont be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZGN9fZvQhc
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>>69376312
Because they show how tolerant they are for over exaggerating how much they want him in the movie.
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>>69376326
It will be in the opening credits a la Watchmen.
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>>69375559
>Walks up to on the street after the fight at the end of Spider-Man 3
>"I know it was you"
>Next morning Peter picks up the Bugle off his porch
>Front page reads
SPIDER-MAN: ONE MORE DAY
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>>69376375
>especially if they work out a similar deal with Fox for F4)

hahahahahahahahhahahaha

why would that even happen
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>>69376392
BP will be fine given that they've already cast him, he's black and it is know part of the Infinity War bridge. Inhumans is the one that looks it has been demoted to Ant-Man tier.
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>>69375414
>all that schedule reshuffling to accommodate for BUT MUH SPIDEY
I knew this would happen
I fucking knew it
fuk u sony
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>>69375414
>ATTENTION /CO/
>This is your glorious leader Kim Jong-Un speaking.
>My plan to hack Sony in order to force them to reach a deal with Marvel has worked.
>Spider-Man is back where he belongs
>To show your gratitude, send lots of money, weapons and food to North Korea. Actually forget the food, money and weapons are more important.
>ALL HAIL KOREA
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>>69375788
Mgs movie will not happen. Its been announced several times before and never happened then either.
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>>69376416
thank you based Kim.
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>>69376393

Probably will work better as a TV series anyway
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I hope to god it isn't miles
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>>69376407

Inhumans is especially weird, i thought having Captain Marvel and Inhumans between the two Infinity War movies would mean they'd be almost post apocalypse, like Thanos kicks everyones ass and then these two stories start up in the ruins, probably to do with resurrecting the original Avengers team and gathering EVERYONE for part 2.

Now it looks kind of inconsequential after the big bads been dealt with, I dunno.
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>>69376406
... if F4 fails as hard as ASM2, which is still pretty possible, not completely shitty trailer aside?

Admittedly, Fox is investing much less in it than Sony did in ASM2, but if it flops or even under-performs and kills F4 for another few years, again, it's quite possible they'll try to work out a deal with Marvel to salvage something from the wreckage.
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>>69376392
Of course he is. Spidey's back to play his original role.

I expect the BP film to be delayed indefinitely until it's canceled too.
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>>69376416
thank you based kim
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>yfw Disney makes Sony cast Drake Bell as Peter
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>>69376407
>Inhumans is the one that looks it has been demoted to Ant-Man tier.
Fucking GOOD. They deserve it.
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>>69376416
It was really James Franco's plan to bring back spidey. You just fell for the ruse.
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>>69376416
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>>69376438
I'm still not sure why they can't just flip Inhumans and IW2 around. Why leave Inhumans to trail in the dust of the big Avengers film, when you could put it before it to build hype?

They haven't even started filming part 1 yet, so maybe the schedule will get switched up a bit more.
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>>69376438
>BB shows up in IWP2 to save the day
>Inhumans is a flashback to show who the fuck he is and what he was doing that lead up to his appearnce
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>>69376416
Truly the hero we needed.

Thank you based Kim, glory be upon you.
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>>69376341
>james cameron's spider-man
please no
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>>69376472

I need to read that script again, some of its hilarious
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>>69376456
oh shit
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>>69376459
Yeah, I'm not sure why the IW movies seem to be the only ones they don't want to push back.

I guess enough Thanos teasing already, but still.
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>>69376416
HAIL SUPREME LEADER
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>>69376383
Was his JJJ hair a wig?
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>Someone mentions not wanting Miles

>a few fans defend 1/3 posts

>Someone mentions possibly liking Miles

>everyone clamours to mention some SJW, diversity quota, stop stealing my white heroes shite

I want /pol/ to leave /co/ forever
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>no one has posted his dream spiderguy yet
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>>69376450
Got to get out of debt some way.
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>>69376456
>James Franco will never play Peter again
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I heard, Andrew Garfield LOVES Lasagna and HATES mondays. I wonder if thats the reason hes no longer Spiderman.
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>your face when you might actually decide to watch a Marvel film now
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>>69376263
>Kraven
Damn, that would be awesome!
>I'll put a bullet in your face
>Last guys you fought were super dudes?
>Even better, you must be one hell of a target!
>>69376313
Mysterio was the first villain i came in contact with as a kid so i have asoft spot for him, but i can see your point, back in SMII they really massed Ock in the comics after the movie was released. On the other hand i'm curious to how they would show a "master of special effects" in a marvel movie, could generate some hilarious meta jokes, plus, they would finally make Mysterio action figures.
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>Civil War
>little hints of Spider-Man being in the film
>after credits scene is JK Simmons as JJJ yelling about wanting that "masked freak" caught and being suspicious of the only hero with a mask
>shot of the new Peter Parker in the room too
Would you be okay with this?
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>>69376406
Too many capeshit movies coming out including DC's. Now that Sony is working with Marvel, Fox's capeshit movie have shot down to least anticipated.
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>yfw the Sony hack was done by Marvel
>yfw they paid north korean hackers so they could bring Spidey in the MCU

Feige does it again.
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>>69376480
They don't even have to change the date of Part 1. They could leave that there, and then still have Part 2 cap off the wave. Especially since Inhumans and IW2 are coming out, like, 2 months apart.

But I guess we'll see. 2019 is a long ways off yet.
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>>69376487
Dude, I'm not /pol/ one bit, I'd be fine with a Miles or even a black Peter, but it isn't happening.
Execs will not make the most money-making superhero on earth, their biggest brand, hinge on international audiences liking a black guy as Spidey.
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>>69375527

Show me a screen cap of Miles not being bland shit in his own book.

Nightmare mode: Cannot involve any of Pete's side characters or villains.
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>>69376488
Someone needs to make a thread where everyone will be posting THEIR vision of THE TRUE Spider-Man. What makes Spider-Man Spider-Man and what makes Peter Parker Peter Parker.
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>>69376439
>>69376439
>. if F4 fails as hard as ASM2,

Funny thing is ASM2 didnt exactly fail, it just didnt succeed as much as they wanted it to

It feels like Fox and Marvel have too much bad blood to work things out like that

Sony and Marvel already had a pretty great relationship, Marvel working with Sony and letting them retain control of it is pretty good evidence of that. All actions by Sony towards marvel have proved their good faith to Marvel

Marvel will sure as hell wont give Fox shit like that after so much bad blood has passed. marvel has an alternative character for every marvel character that Fox owns. Fox has no leverage at all, they lost it when they refused to share galactus and SS when they had the chance
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>>69376506
My idea was
>>69375496
So yeah.
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>>69376500
>hes no longer Spiderman.
What?

When? Where?
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I actually think Garfield is the best possible choice for Spiderman, he was just put in two mediocre to bad movies and that wasn't really his fault.
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>>69376129
thefuck?
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>>69376483

Yeah it was a wig, who cares though noone can outdo his JJJ wig or no wig
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Garfield was a poor Peter, but a great Spidey
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>>69376499

did you mean Harry?
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>>69376505
>Mysterio will never be presented on silver screen as a mysterious pulp sci-fi like golden age vibe villain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFqUbG_NoLg
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>>69376533
This. Garfield was miles better than Toby but was thrown two fucking awful scripts. There were a few actually genuine Spidey moments in TASM while Toby just felt forced through his trilogy.
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>>69376533
same here
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>Twitter last night
>Miles Morales trending
>Fucking Brian Bendis retweeting shit about Miles being the new Spider-Man, telling everyone to buy the first trade on Amazon
>The press release says clear as day: Peter Parker
Is he a scumbag or just desperate?
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>>69376519
We should probably do this here and not polute the board,
Let me just get perfect adult Pete out of the way.
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>>69376523
>Sony makes two awful spider-man movies for the sake of keeping the rights
>Marvel makes constant jabs about those movies
How do they have a good relationship again?
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>>69376533

His peter parker is unbearable, I'd rather have someone who does a better peter cause any faget can be spidey behind the mask quipping one liners written in the script
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>>69376570
>Marvel makes constant jabs about those movies
When?
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>>69376551
this is true
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>>69376533
I think the dialogue for his Spidey parts was good and he wasn't good at delivering it, yet /co/ credits him for the role kinda sorta working.
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>>69376554
James played pretty much Peter
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>>69376564
both
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_K_scbxMrs

Great spidey or best spidey
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>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.
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>>69376575
If it's so easy to be Spidey then why did Raimi fuck it up for three movies? Drake Bell played a better Spider-Man than Macquire did.
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http://www.imdb.com/news/ni58274688?ref_=hm_nw_tp1

there is another link for you guys
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>>69376518
Ultimate Deadp... Prowler.
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>>69376597
>le drake bell
fuck off faggot
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>>69376597
It's not because Maguire was shit that it automatically makes Garfield actually good.
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>>69376570
they still hire them to do CG for MCU, Even GotG Walkmen in it.
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>>69376564
if true that's hilarious
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>>69375504
Or like them using Scott Lang for Ant-Man
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>>69376570
Sony gave Ghost Rider to Marvel after the second one flopped instead of dragging it out like Fox with FF.
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Honestly, I'd be more than fine with this. This is Peter to me. I'd even ignore the rage I usually feel when Peter is portrayed with blue eyes.
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>>69376611
>sony's CGI
please no, last time it was good was SM2
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>>69375713
Yet it's still way, way better than Ant Man trailer
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>>69376599
>http://www.imdb.com/news/ni58274688?ref_=hm_nw_tp1
>Sony has owned the feature rights to Spider-Man since 1999, when Marvel sold the comic book heroine for $7 million.
>heroine
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Does Marvel own Punisher yet? I want my Punisher/Spidey movie.
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>>69375713
>halo 3
you mean mass effect
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>>69375634
>Sony has creative control.
Sony has veto powers, allegedly. I doubt it though.

I personally think the creative control is just to save face. And even if they do have the final say, Sony doesn't see the need to intervene unless the films keep bombing. Their goal is to make money, Sony doesn't care about Spiderman's brand. On the other hand Marvel cares about Spiderman's brand. Sony would be stupid to micromanage Marvel, it would defeat the purpose of the team-up. They want Marvel to write the stories, no point stopping them from doing what you hire them to do.
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The only way they could fuck this up is if they do high-school Peter again. Skip that shit and go straight for mid-20's Peter who's already established in the Bugle and stuff.
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>>69376647

Yeah they got him back a while ago. I guess they're waiting to see how DD goes over before they really make a push for adult audiences.
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>>69376597
Avi Arad pretty much forced Raimi into shoehorning Venom into his original script when he didn't want to do it. He's probably responsible for the shit in ASM2 also.
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>>69376647
Punisher is with Marvel but they refuse to use it because Feige only make movies targeted at 8 year olds.
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>>69376616
That's from Wright being a fanboy.
>>69376647
Marvel has everything but X-Men, Fantastic Four, and a complicated situation with Namor.
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>>69376570
>How do they have a good relationship again?

1. Sony returned GR rights immediately after GR 2 released even though they had a lot of time to retain it. Sony returned since they knew they werent gonna use it anyway hence showing good faith to Marvel

2. Sony was collaborating with Marvel on other projects like some animation movies etc building further rapport with them

3. After SM 3 when deadline for SM4 was looming, Sony handed over practically every Spidey rights except for the live action movies in return of gaining an extension to make the ASM series. Marvel really got the sweeter deal out of this. Even though Marvel could have easily gained spidey rights before ASM was even made (had they not given the extension)

4. They were willing to work together on showing Oscorp tower in Avengers to honor a common CGI design employee but unfortunately couldnt finish it due to deadlines

These are just from top of my head, there are lot more instances where Sony and Marvel showed how good the relationship between them was
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>>69376297

DICK

THROUGH

THE

ROOF
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>>69376472
tfw seeing Spidey's mating dance on the big screen
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>>69376647
They've had him for a while, yeah. He'll probably just get some shitty Marvel Knights flick
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>>69375500
Miles could be the black sidekick, like Falcon or War Machine
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>>69375466
They need to cast the right Peter for the job. And shoot whatever scenes they need to shoot.
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>>69376564
Why not both?

Also you can't blame the guy for trying to advertise his books. It's amazing how anti-capitalist so many of you people are.
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>>69376678
>Namor
Fucking blows my mind that Universal still holds the rights for him yet hasn't done anything with it and never will. Why the fuck did they even buy it?
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>The Spidey vs Cap battle will happen
I just shit my pants guys.

Make a Sentry movie and I will literally suck everyone at Marvel's dicks
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>>69376691

All I want is for Jameson to be a huge Captain America mark, while constantly shitting on Peter. Then have that moment when he actually meets Steve and Cap gives him one of his disappointed dad lectures.
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How long until the Spider-Verse movie?
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>>69376705
Lying isn't advertising you scum.
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>>69376602

You mean the book where they fucking texted back and forth the entire time?

> Come on Miles.
> No Uncle Bad Guy.
> Think about it.
> No.
> I'll tell your dad your secret.
>Ok.


Fucking riveting.
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>>69376721
2030
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>>69376721
Probably never. Even clone saga seems more likely at this point.
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Whats stopping them from getting Tobey? I mean, Garfield would look really young in the Avengers... Dont know how old is Tobey right now, but it would be a nice touch i guess
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>>69376702

>Spider-Man
>sidekick
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>>69376717
As long as it's JK Simmons as JJJ I'm on board with this
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>>69376739
the fact that Tobey was shit is what's stopping them
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>Kingpin in Daredevil
>Spider-Man coming back to MCU
TIME FOR THE FAT BALD JOKES
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There was an old 80s comic when Spidey first flirted with an Avengers joining, think he and the team were at Project Pegasus? That issue hasta have some exploitable images in it.
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>>69375471
who the fuck says that bullshit faggot?
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>>69376735

Don't you put that evil on me.
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>>69375414
>>69375435

>Andrew Garfield is not expected to reprise the character.

I want it.

I want the role. I have some acting experience and I've been thinking about going full time with it but playing Peter Parker would be the absolute best. I'd rock the fuck out of that role.

I'm a skinny dude with brown hair and blue eyes.
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>>69376516
No i know he won't appear since Marvel already said Peter. Fuck even I would see it as a bad move without something proper in place to prerequisite it but people vehemently feel the need to kill other people's hype for no real reason other than "I personally don't like him".
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>>69376759
Get otter-mode and okay
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>>69376759
epic XD
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>>69375477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6v1dgIIsq0
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>>69376758
>HURRR LET'S HAVE A MOVIE ABOUT A TERRIBLE STORY THAT RELIES ON UNESTABLISHED CHARACTERS
I mean if you want your shitty Spider-verse, you got to fucking establish Kaine and Ben. And many, many other characters.
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>>69375462
It's not. BP is likely to be the spidey stand in, with the actual spider man having a cameo.
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>>69376759

Pics or it didn't happen
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>>69376759
cuck
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>>69376523
True enough. All that has to happen, though, is that F4 fails to gain enough traction to continue as a franchise.

After a third failure, are they gonna stick it out for another decade or so and try again at the last minute a fourth time, or are they gonna try to make a deal like Sony just did? The Sony deal even technically has Sony still as the movie rights holder, they're just working with Marvel to make it part of the MCU. Fox could do something similar: still keep the rights, but Marvel get's to put them in their films and is basically top dog for the universe, even if Fox can veto stuff specific to the F4 and related properties.

Admittedly, Fox and Marvel's relationship is not as rosy.

But the idea is still that cape movies now are all about Franchise, for better or worse. If F4 does well, Fox will greenlight more. If it doesn't do well enough, what then? Same situation as Sony. ASM2 was supposed to launch a universe to rival the MCU and failed abysmally to do that in every conceivable way, even though the individual film itself was not a total flop.
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So who's the hot shit actor right now who'd be the predictable choice for Marvel to pick for marketing reasons only because that seems to be their casting method so far.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KeLcRwJ2plA

I hope we get this scene in Cap 3.
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So all of those other Sony projects are dead now?
Fuck I wanted my Venom movie
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>>69376759
are you a cuck?
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>>69376487
It's not /pol/. Miles is a shit character.

Pretty much everyone still loved MCD as Kingpin
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>>69376689
In comparison, Fox rewrote their DoFP script and replaced young Juggernaut with Pietro immediately after finding out that Pietro was going to be in Avengers: AoU.
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>>69376801
WAKE ME UP
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>There won't be a scene in which Captain America and Iron Man literally fight over Spider-Man in NY
>Spider-Man won't intervene by swinging into cap and slinging cap's shield into Iron Man's armour, before giving a speech about how with great power comes great responsibility
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Please no kid Peter Marvel, please don't put us through that bullshit again
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>>69376778

N-no? Did I say that? Or did I simply express my desire for them to not try and turn one of the biggest, worst, and most convoluted clusterfucks of a story into a movie?
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>>69376790
There's been Cumberbatch and also...
yeah, totally a trend...
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>>69376754
The first time Spider-Man had an opportunity to join the Avengers was Amazing Spider-Man Annual 3. The team wanted to test him first by getting him to catch The Hulk. He ran off without listening to them explain thinking they wanted to imprison the green monster. After learning about Bruce Banner he let The Hulk escape and went back to the Avengers to turn them down, because he thought what they were doing was cruel when they really just wanted to help Banner find a cure for himself.
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>>69376722
Whatever you say, commie trash.
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>>69376808
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>69376812

I'd be okay with a Pete around 19 or 20. Just skip the high school drama.
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>>69376812
But everyone in the MCU is adult, we need a teen for them all to patronize in civil war
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>>69375455
Just wait until you see the technology that'll be out in 2019 and beyond.

Come lose your shit with us over at::
http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology

By the time you're 65 you'll probably look 35 and have an extremely mild healing factor. Oh, and the idea of privacy will be out of the fucking door. And, you'll probably be a lot more intelligent as well. And...the word job will be a joke. Welcome to the future...

everything is chrome
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>>69376232
Fuck you.
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>>69375446
Miles Morales boring?
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>>69376793

>tfw you will never get to hear this episode with Josh Keaton's VO
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>>69376815
You're out of your element Donnie.
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>>69376808
Hate the film, but his casting was perfect
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>tfw you will never get a perfect Peter Parker because Hollywood definition of nerdy is Michael Cera
Why live
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>>69376312
>Muh Peter
Different dynamics. For all the love i have for peter, hes a young man taking on a big responsibility. Miles is a kid, who shouldnt even see those responsibilities hes undertaking. hes constantly being dismissed for being a kid (cap, fury), and still taking the shot.
The character has potentisl, exactly for the same reasons you dont like him. Not my fault Bendis is too slow to come this point across in his comics.
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>>69376836

Yeah, well that's just like, your opinion, man.
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>>69376102
Evans was a Marvel character before he became Cap. You can't DC to Marvel in film.
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>>69376824
CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>69376822
>lying is totally morallly acceptable as long as you make money out of it
Yeah, I'm the trash.
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>>69376790
Dave Franco.
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>>69376191
>heavy hitter
>FTFY
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>>69376707
>Fucking blows my mind that Universal still holds the rights for him yet hasn't done anything with it and never will. Why the fuck did they even buy it?
Google informed me that Marvel holds the film rights but not the distribution rights. So Universal CAN'T make a Namor film anymore, but Marvel can't make one either until Universal is the distributor.

However, since we are going to have a Marvel spiderman film distributed by Sony, this might not be as much of a problem as we thought. Guess the issue is Universal is not on good terms with Marvel compared to Sony.
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>yfw they actually choose Michael Cera
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>>69376808
>>69376824
>>69376852

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLYl4fM8yk
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>>69376832
Why is Thanos dressed as the Hulk?
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>>69376816
Grant Gustin.
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>>69376855

I...I can actually see them doing that. On the fence about it myself, but it doesn't seem like an impossible casting decision on their part.
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>>69376793
The fuck?
Dude, spiderman was taking out guys that would have been able to solo not just cap but the entire avengers and the third reich while broke caring for his sick aunt and having JJJ and all of newyork including cap shitting on him in most cotinuites.
He's been doing it longer is better at it and didn't have everyone kissing his ass for no reason other then he's awesome.
Not only that, he's like 3 years younger then cap.
Him asking him that bullshit instead of just empathizing with him and making a joke to lighten the mood is basically just puffing cap up at the expense of spiderman.
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>>69376862
>So, uhm, hi guys, I-I'm the Spider manly man and I guess I'm gonna kick your ass and stuff...
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>>69376875
That's not Marvel, though.
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>>69376790

Jay Baruchel
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>>69376855
Isn't he busy fucking with Tommy Wiseau and The Room?
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YFW the MCU Spider-Man is black

And it's Peter not Miles
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>yfw Superior foes of spider-man series on netflix
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>>69376026
k
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>AoU credits scene has Spider-Man giving a press speech and pulls the mask off revealing Channing Tatum
>it's a fake-out and the real Spidey crashes the speech and makes jokes
>JJJ mad as all hell in the background
There's a lot Marvel could do with revealing this shit.
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>>69376904
What the fuck is that person wearing?
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>>69376925

It was the 80s.
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>>69376026
You. I like you.
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What's the chance of Marvel/Sony trying to do a 2099 film? They could even have him time traveling to present day Spidey films.
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>>69376845
also, since spidey is as big as batman and superman, theres a need for franchise characters. Jessica and spidergwen arent as popular as Miles.

But the biggest reason for Miles in the MCU, is that it allows Peter to move on from eternal youth and grow up.
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>>69376922
Channing Tatum will play Eddie Brock
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>>69376940

Nil.

Brand recognition is the name of the game, if they're doing Spider-Man it'll be Peter Parker in his red and blues.
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>>69376790
I can't go a day without seeing Dylan O'Brien suggested

Who knew there were so many Teen Wolf fans
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>>69375499
and Danny Devito as Doc Ock
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Here's hoping.
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Will they ever be able to top this suit?
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>>69376949
And if they go the Tobey Maguire route, it makes sense to introduce Miles as a Legacy character.
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>>69376925
He's Doctor Who. Of course he looks stupid
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>>69376953
I meant doing both films. Regular Peter films that are part of the MCU and 2099 films which are fewer, but more standalone.
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>>69376940

>chance

0.5%

Cyberpunk is dead, there are barely any Hispanic actors who are big enough names to play Miguel, and the character has no brand recognition.
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>>69376958
I like how that's never going to happen.
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I'm more hype for Venom than anything
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6NUQeb5noM

We could've had this. You ruined it.
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>>69376819
He really did have a Death Wish in that comic trying to throw down with Thor while the entire team is there to back him up and then going after a rampaging Hulk solo.
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>>69375546

I fucking love this.

Beautiful idea...
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>>69376824
Won't Back Down was so much better
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>>69376972
To be fair 2099 needs no brand recognition, he's basically Sci-fi Spider-Man. Being Spider-Man in name is all the brand recognition he needs.
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>>69376146
>Why?
Because Spider-Man is Marvel's number 1 hero. Even more than Iron Man.
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>>69375579

What color is the sky in your world?
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>>69376769

I'm fucking going too. I'm scrawny already. Always have been but I have a fast metabolism so when I do get in shape it happens quickly.

>>69376772
>>69376784
>>69376783
>>69376797

This fucking site. I literally have railed against cuckolding before it was a /pol/ meme and now I get called one for no fucking reason.

Why do I want this role? Because I was born with facial deformity, I've been bullied, made fun and down trodden my entire life. So has Peter. I've lived in poverty my entire life. So has Peter. I relate to his struggles, to his drive to make things right when everything is going against him.

I'm not the best looking actor, but I can bring it to this role so fucking hard -- I'll blow everyone the fuck out.

And why wouldn't you support someone from /co/ being in the MCU? You realize I could help make all of /co/'s dreams come true right? I'd get in there, impress the hell out of Marvel, make them BILLIONS and then let them know what their true fans really want, what's going to make them even richer!
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