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She gets too much hate.

Let's discuss the best girl, and how we hope that the Supernatural writer doesn't fuck her solo up.
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I like her as well OP, it's just the fact that she was created by Slott that gave everyone a mad on for her. That, and the way she has acted in Spider-Verse doesn't help much, but none the less I'm still enjoying seeing her out there and will be looking forward to reading her solo.

Also, her Web costume was way cooler than this one, it made her look like some kind of ninja, this one is nice and all, but I want the webs back.
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>>68919035
I blame more being written awfully and being a crappy retcon personified that has people pissed.
From what I've read babe is a bimbo and not even an endearing one.
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As far as fucking up her solo, I don't think they CAN fuck it up, at this point anything will be an improvement.
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>>68918913
what's with the midget
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>>68919035
Yeah, I figured it was mostly everyone's hate for Slott and anything he does.

I love her in Spider-Verse personally. Sure she does dumb shit, but she's still very inexperienced and she's just so adorable when she gets bad ideas and fucks up. Despite her inexperince, she has enough confidence in herself and her allies to be able to make it through the tough shit.

I'm torn on her costumes. I liked the web costume so much, especially because it made her very unique, but the new one is sweet too.
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>silk
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>>68918913
I see Peter is putting together a nice new harem of brunettes. Bout time he came to the dark side.
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>>68919147
She'd be shit even if she wasn't written by slott because she is a deviant ar tier Mary sue. And I know that gets thrown arounder a lot but let's see
> bitten by the same spider as Peter after him
>spider sense is better is more agile and can make bio webs that are electric proof and different color
> only exists to fuck Peter
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>>68919137
Otto is into weird shit.
His dating record includes a whale, a fossil, and a gnome.
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>>68919365
Those are some sue traits, not deviantart tier but definitely enough to call her a silly character on principle and totally enough to make her completely irredeemable with a bland personality like she has
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>>68919397
It's literally deviant art tier though. She got her power the same way the guy did and is better than them in every way even though she was locked in a room for 10 years
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>>68919365
Its like you guys cherry pick specific things about a character and make it seem like that's all they are or something
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>>68918913
>best girl

Oh cool, we never discuss the short

>OP is talking about the mummy slut
>mfw
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>>68918913
>Feminist Dan Slott creates a female character who literally can't stop sucking dick
That's pretty far from best girl material right there.
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>>68918913
>Let's discuss the best girl
>best
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I think shes great but I'm confused as to what her Origin is.. I'm not sure I understand it
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>>68919418
But that is a literally all she is. All she's done so far is want to fuck Peter and Kaine and say how shit Peter is at being a hero
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>>68919440
It's bullshit.
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>>68919440
The spider that bit Peter bit her too after it bit him. She has colorized electric proof internal webs is faster and has a better spider sense
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>>68919444
Yeah, that's not true at all. Hatred is blinding you.
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>>68919459

I want to see the midget beat her ass
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>>68919459
Ahh.. Ok, that makes much more sense. I do recall her being locked away for years. Thanks for clarifying
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>>68919147
>>68918913
>>68919035
Give me one good reason she's a good character. And not "she's cute" or "she's mai waifu".
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>>68919463
What has she shown other than fucking Peter and thinking she's a better hero who knows more than him?
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>>68919147
There's endearing, and there's dumber than early stephanie brown kind of stupid. Losing TWO teleporters in such quick succession is making her look a hell of a lot like the second.
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>>68919444
>But that is a literally all she is.
Nah.
She's also the chosen one of a prophecy that means she's more important than almost everyone else. And got credit for finding out something Pete already knew but forgot for some reason. And repeatedly fucks up everything for everyone involved but we're somehow still meant to like her.
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>>68919510
To be fair so are Kaine and benny. But they aren't annoying
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>>68919459
So the spider mutated her differently. I don't get why people have an issue with that.

Especially since Peter is still much stronger than her.

>>68919476
Her personality is a little crazy, cute, and charming. She's still hasn't completely found herself, so we get to watch her grow over the next year or so which is always fun.

She's pretty powerful. She makes a lot of dumb mistakes, but she shows personal growth with each one despite not always learning from them. She also has her moments of smart calls, and she's starting to care a lot more about people.

There's just so much potential, and what's already there is already great for me.
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>>68919510
She's the chosen one because she exist to fuck
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I love Silk, she's so great
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>>68919574
I just can't get enough of her
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>>68919578
I love how much focus she's getting. I can't believe she's getting her own comic!
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>>68919589
And her backstory that she had been here all along? Genius.
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>>68919562
>cute
You failed.

>She makes a lot of dumb mistakes, but she shows personal growth with each one despite not always learning from them.
How does she grow from her mistakes if she doesn't learn from them?

>There's just so much potential
There was potential for Miles too. And look how that turned out.
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>>68919476
Potential.

Obviously I can't offer any kind of evidence to her being a "good" character, the writers haven't done anything good with her, but I have hope that we'll see her develop. She has gotten a big reaction from fans of Spidey both negative and positive (according to Slott), and is more or less an open canvas for development with a lack of actual screen time. With that little time we've seen her displayed as ignorant, inexperienced, stupid even, a lot like someone brand new to the hero game.
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>>68919520
It's really telling when a character is more obnoxious than a crying baby.
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>>68919147
Go write another shitty comic where you kill an alt-universe spider man
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>>68919610
>(according to Slott)
ONLY according to Slott. That's the problem. There's maybe five people who care about her on the whole internet. No fanart, no appreciation, no nothing. Just "great she did something dumb again" at best and the usual vitriol at worst. Where did that so called fanmail come from?
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maybe after spiderverse, being the bride wont mater anymore. maybe being one of those 3 special is why her power level is higher then pete's, and afterward she will be nerfed a bit, and off his rod. she might be, dare i say, ok after that?

still, its fucking retarded how many spider cunts there are now. like, pick one for christ sake, not 3. they invent 2 more at the same time, give them books, wile leaving anya, an already established perfectly good spider girl, to hang out back in limbo when all this is over.
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>>68919669
This. We only have Slott's word to base all this information on. We won't really know how popular she is until her book has hit a few issues.

I'm willing to bet money that Slott is full of shit.
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>>68919605
>There was potential for Miles too. And look how that turned out.
Even though it isn't saying much, his group's shit has been the best part of Spider-verse consistently.
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>>68919688
It's really kind of hilarious how the most consistently entertaining part is the one starring Miles and the fucking Ultimate cartoon Spidey.
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>>68919686
I will go on record saying that I am Not Slott
>inb4 go away Slott
And I like Silk and am looking forward to the tradeback of her solo in the fufure, but I never sent any fan mail...
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>>68919137
She's just best girl is all.
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>>6891960
>You failed.
I said cute personality.

>How does she grow from her mistakes if she doesn't learn from them?
It's called personal growth. You can grow from mistakes because of how it affects other people and yourself, while at the same time not learning why what you did was bad from a strategical point. Or hell, maybe she did learn why, but has a different plan in her head and thinks it'll work out this time.

She's not the only character who has done shit like that. Many loved Marvel characters are guilty of that.

As for Miles, he's hit or miss with most people.
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Bump for goddess Cindy Moon
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>>68918913
Fuck this character.
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Well, I wish I didn't have to post this.
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>>68919739
InCase drew her? How'd we miss that one?
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>spiderman
>girl
Doesn't every girl that gets with spidey die or have something horrible happen to them?

Besides how many fucking spiderwomen do we have now? Do they grow on fucking trees now?
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>>68918913
Why fuck the crazy chinese knockoff when you have a fucking shortstack scientist.

This Peter is retarded.
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>>68919739

Man, Anna Maria is the best thing to come out of that Superior mess.
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>>68918913
>fall in love with a hot guy
>he loves you back
>turns out he's actually an evil supervillain who's taken over the brain of a superhero
>superhero gets his brain back
>proceeds to break up with you and then crashes at your place for weeks on end
>then silk shows up
So some guy is in the brain of your boyfriend (okay it was his brain first but whatever) and he's living on your couch, eating your food and fucking some cock-hungry Asian psychopath in front of you.
Jesus Christ I'm actually amazed the shortstack hasn't gone full supervillain yet.
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Man, Anna has a hard life. One she loved turned out to be crazy maniac and original owner of the body now tries to bang shitty Spider-OC everytime they make eye contact. She ain't getting Spider dick again.
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>>68919610
Wasn't she also shown having all of Spider-Man's powers, only she's got them better than him?
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>>68921429
Not unless she forces him.

With Shortstack powers.
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>>68921381
Fuck you

>>68921392
I don't give a fuck if she's a feminist character or not.

She's just a great character imo and a perfect 10/10 waifu. I don't think her solo will change the comic world or any of that nonsense, but I'm extremely excited for it and will do everything I can to help it sustain for a long time.
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Is Mary Jane back yet? Stop wasting everyone's time, Marvel.
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>>68921422
They haven't fucked tho
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>>68921440
MJ is getting culturally enriched.
Enjoy wishing shortstack was all up in this.
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>>68921424
It's actually Peter's apartment.
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>>68921392
Goddamnit, it's like we're in an abusive relationship.
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>>68921440
I think she's fucking a nigger right now. Forever ruined at this point.
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is she Korean? someone should introduce k-pop to Dan Slott so we can have glorious k-pop references in our Spider-Man and start a hallyu wave in American comics
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>>68921438
>10/10 waifu

She's literally the third in the running for best Waifu on Op's page.
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>>68921438
how does it your waifu will be shelfed and limbo'd
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>>68921438
>She's just a great character imo and a perfect 10/10 waifu.
2/10 post your dank meme some other time
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>>68921440
She's riding some Mexican dick. Also, they probably have crazy orgies in fire station.
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>>68921458
Really the only question here is Marie's placement, either as second, or fourth in exchange for loose spider top.
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>>68919365
Line three would disqualify her, but might mean Parker is drifting into Stu territory.
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>>68921465
>Mexican
I like to believe he is just a shape-shifter with shity memory.
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>>68921448
>>68921455
>>68921465
Probably a clone. Or retconned out when the universes collapse. Either way, we're approaching a decade of this garbage and the joke is long stale, Marvel.
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>>68921473
Second without a doubt.

Peter is best waifu.
Shortstack is objectively the best female.
Silk is a nipnongchingchong who sounds like a dying goat when fucked.
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>>68921482
I for one welcome our new shortstacked overlord.
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>>68921456
Yeah she is. Her being drawn asian, or at least half, plus her last name is Moon. If she's not at least half I'll be ok with that, but geez.

I hope they make her reference the JOAH god

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtCJC39SqU

>>68921463
Well, I hope it wont come to that. Even Hope is still alive.

>>68921458
Nah I don't think so
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>>68921394
You only looked at the pics with cocks in them?
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>>68921487
So are you saying that Silk is more attractive than spider-clothes?
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>>68918913
Can't wait for this shit to get cancelled so we can get a SP//dr ongoing
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>>68921480
Oh... it has a name, apparently. Jesus, I wonder if Slott was ever good writer, because it's pathetic "look guyz, this is totally serious, looks like MJ moved on and Pete can totally bang my OCs! Not a ruse". I am sure I liked Spider-Island, but man he turned to shit.
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>>68921502
I give it 8 issues. Marvel's far less tolerant of series that no-one wants to buy than DC.
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>>68918913

why did they draw that child with breasts
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>>68921514
It's Dan Slott's fetish
and mine
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>>68921513
I wouldn't be surprised if feminsts buy it just to keep it selling well like they do with Ms Marvel
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>>68921518
Shortstack is simply the most logical fetish.

Man has forever strived to make things more efficient, more compact, more accessable.

What is more perfect than a Shortstack Woman, save, Two Shortstack women working in tandem.
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Forget Silk, let's all talk about Anna.
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>>68921538
>Slott's fetish midget
ew no
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>>68921561
But anon, I want Anna as all-new lady stilt-man.
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>>68921537
>Two Shortstack women working in tandem.
hnnnnnnnnngh....
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>Character introduced who has the same powers as Peter
>Doesn't become the Virgil to Spidey's Dante
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>>68921593
>The spiders will never get motivated.
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>>68921593
>stuck in room for 10 years with no one to talk to or see ever
>wanting to make a restricting commitment instead of living free
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>>68918913
Her creation is that out of a fanfic, a good writer always uses cause and effect, while silk is just there. This special snow flake among millions of special snowflakes lacks imagination. Not because she could be stronger and better than spider-man but because she already is, she is already special before she is even introduced, she has an established character before you meet her the comic book. Everything is preordained with out creating an actual background that would lead up to her creation, all was to her was " boop! New character! She was there the whole time! Because I changed the origin of spider-mans powers a bit." There is no reason for her to exist when we already have two spider-women.
The problem with these characters is that you don't see their struggles, you read about their past but you don't see it, that first dehumanizes the character.
Then you have the character automatically stronger than the original, and not showing how much stronger. She just is. In there lies the problem of characters who are shoehorned in, her biggest problem in the end is lack of cause and effect. Just being there so you can create an over powered character is just to satisfy the few egos this character would supposedly represent.
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>>68921693
Forgot a pic
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>>68921693
How is she stronger than Peter? People keep saying this, but it's not true at all. If anything they're equal, but I still think Peter is stronger for now.

She's faster than he is, yes, but he's also much stronger than her physically. Her spider sense has a longer range, but that doesn't matter all that much in combat since Peter does just fine with his.

Her webbing comes from her and is organic, and it can do some cool stuff, but the few things we're seen her do with it might just be the limit of her ability. We also haven't seen her do anything super amazing with it under extreme pressure. That's not necessarily a strength, because that's her only source of webbing. Whereas Peter most of the time uses a cookie cutter formula, but we've seen him modify it when needed and that makes him much more flexible.

He's also MUCH more experienced in the field, and has better tactical ability when the situation calls for him to do shit like that. You also have to remember that she was trained to use her abilities, and likely spent more time exploring them than Peter has his due to her situation. It's not like she's just now figuring all this shit out.
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>>68918913
Is she pretty much Jessica Drew after Secret Invasion?
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why cant waifufags pick good characters?
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>>68921767
You prefer Gwen to have FAS?
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>>68921767
>he thinks people pick their waifu
Your waifu picks you, not the other way around.

If someone says they picked their waifu then shes not really their waifu. When she finds you, then you will know.
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>>68921775
I dont know what that is
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>>68921526

Ms Marvel at least fulfills a series niche that's been very lacking until Nova and Ms Marvel came out, the whole "school superheroics" thing.

I'm not exactly sure what Silk is supposed to be for, narratively.
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>>68921795
maybe she's like the Cassandra Cain of Marvel/Spiderverse
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>>68921795
A new hero whos going to explore a world unfamiliar to her, and bring us along for the ride to witness her story?
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>>68921818
the character that everyone hates and their death or expulsion from the canon causes a boost in sales?
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>>68921818
Cass is actually a good, competent character.
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>>68921826
>A new hero who's going to explore a world unfamiliar to her, and bring us along for the ride to witness her story?

That only really works if you can make them care about the character and have them do something on their own rather than have them be spider-mans new girlfriend.
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>>68921758
>How is she stronger than Peter?
I think is mistaken, her powers are better than his EXCEPT the strength (congrats Slott, like the cliche "durr woman fast and hurr man strong" wasn't already overused since forever)
>since Peter does just fine with his.
Im not sure I we read the same comics but lately Peter got his ass handled by pretty much anybody who isn't a random goon.
>We also haven't seen her do anything super amazing with it under extreme pressure.
We did, she managed to took down Electro as well save people from falling helicopter with her webs that's just happen to have plot related abilities.
>He's also MUCH more experienced in the field, and has better tactical ability
see above, he is forgetting all of his experience and tactical knowledge (for crying out loud dude have even with sliding timeline decades of experiences of how to fight street/A-level/cosmic villains) the thing that make most people (or at least just me) pissed is so far Peter was made complete incompetent just to show how "kool" Silk really is.

For the new series I really hope the the writers tries to redeem her from this shit. At least there is hope from the artist as she seem to know how to draw nice looking people, if marvel given him the Squirrel Girl artist I don't think even this series would survive past 6 issue.
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>A thread dedicated to Pete's new cocksleeve
No one cares about your shitty waifu slott
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>>68921758
It was stated by slott that she was stronger also her spider sense was better but she had no danger or even a training room shown in the story and her webbing not being effective against electrical currents. My problem is she had this all trained already, it's not shown its out of the blue. And you did just say that their strength is the same then in your next paragraph said Peter was stronger.
The issue is like I said, lack of cause and effect. You say she trained but all we saw was her watching videos of spider-man. The first thing in drawing comics is don't tell how it happens show it. The whole issue that she is there is, just because...
You see I wouldn't hate silk at all if slott took the time to actually create her character. All he did though was make an original character and make her a main focus of a big event. That's the problem, no reason as to why her character is the way it is, if anything her character should be more skiddish due to being locked up for so long. Also her and Peter immediately making out is another red flag of shitty writing. It's lazy to just use it even for shock value.
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>>68921767
those eyes creeps me out
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>>68921843
Well hopefully the solo will do just that

>>68921862
>I think is mistaken, her powers are better than his EXCEPT the strength (congrats Slott, like the cliche "durr woman fast and hurr man strong" wasn't already overused since forever)
I mean, if you don't consider Peter's webbing a power, then yeah her powers are better simply because of the Spider Sense.

>Im not sure I we read the same comics but lately Peter got his ass handled by pretty much anybody who isn't a random goon.
I don't expect that to stick though. We've seen Peter's Spider Sense go through all kinds of shit. Sometimes it's straight up op, sometimes it sucks.

>We did, she managed to took down Electro as well save people from falling helicopter with her webs that's just happen to have plot related abilities.
Yeah, but she had some prep for Electro. The helicopter thing was pretty cool, but Peter has done crazier things.

>see above, he is forgetting all of his experience and tactical knowledge (for crying out loud dude have even with sliding timeline decades of experiences of how to fight street/A-level/cosmic villains) the thing that make most people (or at least just me) pissed is so far Peter was made complete incompetent just to show how "kool" Silk really is.
Yeah I get that, but why would people hate Silk over that? It's all Slott's fault for gimping Peter, but hes been writing Silk really well. He wants to show off his new character a little bit, but I agree he shouldn't have to gimp peter at her expense. Why not have both of them kick peoples shit in, and actually mentor her with the knowledge and experience he's supposed to have?!

Shes also been making a ton of mistakes ever since her debut while being a little too cocky, which highlights her immaturity and lack of experience from being caged up for 10 years.
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>>68921767
>tfw Slott could try to do everything to have Gwen killed during Secret Wars/Battleworld so that Gwen doesn't steal the spotlight from his Mary Sue Silk
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>>68921767
>good characters
>posts shit
She's only marginally better than Silk. Otherwise she's a terrible character with her world being the only remotely interesting thing about her.
And her costume is shit.
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>>68921939
>>68921862
Peter is just holding onto the idiot ball for hype purposes. Once Silk is safely contained in her own shitty comic he should be back to a more normal self.
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>>68921962
>back to a more normal self
A retarded annoying manchild Slott writes him?
Meh.
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>>68921939
How did she have prep for electro? This is what I'm talking about, she had prep time but we didn't see it, her character is built off of "just because I said so" she's a bad character because she was built up without any real effort. Slot used an event to create a character with out actual events that already and made new ones up for convenience.
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>>68922015
That already happened*
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Silk is good for one thing: the imagined scenario where Peter finds her while still married to MJ
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>>68918913
I've spent what must be close to 20 minutes now trying to decipher this picture, as what it contains and the topic of best girl don't seem align in any meaningful way. As such, the only logical conclusion I can make is that Peter must actually be a girl in order to reconcile best girl with this picture.
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>>68921875
>It was stated by Slott
Yeah, but he's not going to be writing her all the time.

>My problem is she had this all trained already, it's not shown its out of the blue
Well, Ezekiel did train and teach her until she had to be caged up.

>And you did just say that their strength is the same then in your next paragraph said Peter was stronger.
In one sentence I was talking about their overall abilities, and in the other I was talking about Peter's raw strength being much stronger than hers which was stated in the comics.

>You see I wouldn't hate silk at all if slott took the time to actually create her character.
Hes been developing her character just fine relatively speaking, he cant go super deep with it because that should be reserved for her solo that was planned.

>All he did though was make an original character and make her a main focus of a big event. That's the problem, no reason as to why her character is the way it is, if anything her character should be more skiddish due to being locked up for so long
This was planned since before Original Sin, so it's not like he made her out of nowhere and put her in the center of a big event just because.

Why would her character be more skiddish? She was locked up after she had mentally developed, and it wasn't against her own will. She also had access to entertainment, so it's not like she was staring at a wall every day the entire time.

>Also her and Peter immediately making out is another red flag of shitty writing.
Yeah that was pretty dumb, but hey it may have an actual cause to make it slightly less dumb.

>>68922015
In their first encounter she didn't do much aside from rescue Peter using her spider sense. In their 2nd encounter, she already knew what he was capable of thanks to their first encounter, so she knew what she needed to do well before they fought.
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>>68921496
Happens to everyone at some point.
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>>68921862
It will be my eternal shame that I forgot to include

-She's not just the most important thing in 616, she's a singularly important being in the infinite multi-verses!
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>>68922187
That seems like a bit of a stretch to me
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>>68922064
>Hes been developing her character just fine relatively speaking, he cant go super deep with it because that should be reserved for her solo that was planned.
That's the problem you don't develope a character later. when making a character you make them along with their surroundings. Also if you are going to introduce a new character with her own comic book series you have to make her character first to prove she deserves her own comic. Just giving her a comic just because she's a female is lazy and just pandering.
He used original sin to push a new character, there were so many other things they could have done but making another female character for the sake of having another female character is terrible idea.
Silk may have been planned before original sin but she was put into spider-mans origin story just like that, it was an easy excuse to create a character in a style of what so many fan fics have done in the past. Her training was never shown, everything being developed later is a lazy way to write a new character in an already serialized story.
Also they didn't show prep work with silk and with electro, she showed up a second time to save Peter a second time. There was no change shown from the first time they met up with electro to the second time.
Also if you are locked up for 10 years and you a writing about a character in a surrealistic setting you would not be like a princess from frozen.
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>>68922203
She's "the Mother"
There's only one mother in all the multiverse

oh
-Told Peter to get out of New York instead of her leaving as she has nothing left there
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>>68922225
>She's "the Mother"
>There's only one mother in all the multiverse
Yeah I must've missed this part. Which issue did they say that in?
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>>68922225
>She's "the Mother"
Don't you mean to say "spider bride"?
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>>68922263
Maybe
I thought
"Other, Scion, and Mother"
Might be bride
My bad

>>68922231
It's Spider-verse's whole schtick
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>>68922223
>That's the problem you don't develope a character later. when making a character you make them along with their surroundings
Yeah, that's one method. They're trying another. I'm sure we'll learn more about her and her past in her solo.

>Also if you are going to introduce a new character with her own comic book series you have to make her character first to prove she deserves her own comic.
No you don't. Again, they're trying something new that's very small risk with very high reward.

>Her training was never shown, everything being developed later is a lazy way to write a new character in an already serialized story.
Everything you're complaining about has to do with it not being done the way you want or expect. Marvel has been trying new things with their comics for a while now, and this may end up being a very successful way to do things in this case.

>Also they didn't show prep work with silk and with electro, she showed up a second time to save Peter a second time. There was no change shown from the first time they met up with electro to the second time.
Why would there be prep work when she already knows her powers and knows her enemies? Her powers allowed her to make webbing that's great against Electro, she obviously knew that going in. She doesn't have to sit in a lab and tweak anything to prepare, she just needs to know what power kit to use. Even in an origin story, you're not going to know everything someone can do with their powers. They show as they go.

>Also if you are locked up for 10 years and you a writing about a character in a surrealistic setting you would not be like a princess from frozen.
Being locked up for 10 years against your will and with nothing to stimulate your mind is one thing. Being locked up but knowing you can leave whenever you want, while having access to things that stimulate your brain is another.
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>>68921723
best pic in the whole thread.
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>>68922278
Well yeah she's important in the Spider-verse, but it's not like the multiverse is going to shatter if something goes wrong. We knew she was going to be an important character in it the moment she was introduced.
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>>68922064
See she was made to be super special, just like Bella in twilight. We don't need a super deep character you just need to make her a bike her up to be special. Not this she special from the get go.
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>>68921657
Stuck in a room for 10 years? What's up with that??! Was she kept like a pet, or just couldn't figure out the knob? I'm only asking because after about an hour, and with spider strength plus webs I can't think of too many places where you couldn't just force it. And 10 years? Didn't she care about anything? Some Anon who loves her please explain. Thanks.
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>>68922379
She was taken in by Ezekiel so he could teach her to control her powers. He trained her, taught her many things, then hid her away when he found out Morlun was after her. She stayed in the room by choice to hide from Morlun, since if she left she was going to die and doom everyone. She knew how to get out, she could leave any time, but she chose not to despite being tempted.

Then Peter found out when Orb did his shit in Original Sin and freed her against her will.
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>>68922330
>Why would there be prep work when she already knows her powers and knows her enemies? Her powers allowed her to make webbing that's great against Electro, she obviously knew that going in. She doesn't have to sit in a lab and tweak anything to prepare, she just needs to know what power kit to use. Even in an origin story, you're not going to know everything someone can do with their powers. They show as they go.
Dude you just said she had prep work, now you are saying she didn't need it.
It creates context, it creates an actual story.
Everything you're complaining about has to do with it not being done the way you want or expect. Marvel has been trying new things with their comics for a while now, and this may end up being a very successful way to do things in this case.
This isn't a new style of writing, go read fanfics on deviant art, or any other forums with OC characters. It's beginer amature level writing, he makes this super special at the get go, everyone does that.
Being locked up for 10 years against your will and with nothing to stimulate your mind is one thing. Being locked up but knowing you can leave whenever you want, while having access to things that stimulate your brain is another.
No what you described was a state of being afraid to leave, if you can leave any time and you don't because something is out there that can kill you is living in fear. Plus if an multiverse jumper can go any where why the hell did marlun never sense silk in the first place? Magical safe room? Silk has entry level styled plot holes already. She was made to be a special snow flake Aninta special snow flakes.
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>>68921767
I don't like Silk but I don't think there's anything remarkable about Gwen right now, either. I hope my opinion of them both will change when their respective books are out, but if they were both killed off next year, I'd only miss Gwen ever so slightly more than Silk.
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>>68922477
>Dude you just said she had prep work, now you are saying she didn't need it.
It was prep. Knowing your enemy and taking measures to counteract their abilities before you engage is prep, which is exactly what she did.

>This isn't a new style of writing, go read fanfics on deviant art, or any other forums with OC characters. It's beginer amature level writing, he makes this super special at the get go, everyone does that.
Yeah, you're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm saying that they're writing her differently with the bigger picture in mind, hoping people respond well. It's a very small risk so why not give it a shot?

People that write that type of shit make their characters mary sues. Cindy is not a mary sue. She makes a shit ton of mistakes and wouldn't have pulled through any of the extremely bad ones without help.

He gave her a unique powerset, sure, but are you saying that he should have given her a bland one? If Slott would properly write Peter, there's no way in hell she would be able to take him in a fight or do the things he can do at this point. He has experience and raw physical strength on her while she's simply fast, immature, and inexperienced.

She has the potential to be better than Peter, but she's not even close to being there yet and her flaws have been made very obvious.

>No what you described was a state of being afraid to leave, if you can leave any time and you don't because something is out there that can kill you is living in fear.
That's where stimulation helps. She wasn't constantly living in fear, because she didn't have to. After a while you become content.

>Plus if an multiverse jumper can go any where why the hell did marlun never sense silk in the first place? Magical safe room?
Yeah he's just going to jump right into a large planet with a ton of superheros that know he's evil, while looking for a needle in a haystack. Great idea. Ezekiel obviously knew a way to throw Marlun off.
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>>68918913
Anna a really wonderful character.

Also, Silk is alright, a bit on the "OC DONUTSTEEL" side of the scale, but she's not quite as shit as some people seem to be making her out to be. Or maybe I'm just not as allergic to new characters?

At any rate, there is very little doubt in my mind that Anna is quite easily one of the best women in Spider-Man's entire history of supporting characters. On THAT scale, Silk doesn't even register as a blip.
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She's a badly written Mary Sue who never gets shit for all the retarded things she does/cause.

Fanfiction-tier writing, prime examples are:
>Same Origin already established character..
>Stupid reason for why she wasn't introduced or mentioned before.
>Main Character falls for her in less then an hour
>Other characters thinks she's the best evahr.
>Previous love interests of main character start acting either stupid, OOC, evil, or just they disappear completely.
>Masters her powers in record time, and uses them better than the main character.
>She's the chosen one.

TL;DR
Silk is shit, Slott is a hack.
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I really enjoy Anna being around, and I do hope she sticks with the comic for a while. Pete needs women who aren't MJ, May, or Dead Gwen in his life.
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>>68922805
>Mary Sue
I have a feeling that you don't know what that phrase actually means

>Stupid reason for why she wasn't introduced or mentioned before.
Like thats never happened before

>Main Character falls for her in less then an hour
This was already explained in the comics as not being the case. He probably likes her by now, but its been a lot of issues so that's not ridiculous at all.

>Other characters thinks she's the best evahr.
>Previous love interests of main character start acting either stupid, OOC, evil, or just they disappear completely.
This is all in your head.

>Masters her powers in record time, and uses them better than the main character.
What? Shes had her powers as long as Peter has, and shes had more than 10 years of exploring and perfecting them if you count her time with Ezekiel.

>She's the chosen one.
Well for the purposes of Spider-verse, someone had to be. It's much easier to make the new character do it since, in this case, it makes sense, rather than an established one and have everyone asking "why now?"
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I hate her but I also want to fuck her.
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>Read this thread
>The only people that like Silk are waifufags who will ignore terrible writing for any character that has tits

It all makes sense now
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>>68922949
>MJ stops hanging with Peter
>Black Cat goes Evil.
>Carlie disappears.

Not in my head, m8.
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>>68923032
>Bitches don't love Spider-Man anymore
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>>68923042
I don't want to live in a world where Bitches don't love Spider-Man.
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>>68922949
>Like thats never happened before
Stupid writing being employed in comic books prior to this character does not justify stupid writing being employed for THIS character. People are supposed to learn from their mistakes. This reflects poorly on comic book writers as much as it does on the character, that in this day and age we're still getting characters with introductions as forced and half-assed as Silk's.

>This was already explained in the comics as not being the case. He probably likes her by now, but its been a lot of issues so that's not ridiculous at all.
You're completely incorrect. From moment one, her pheromones made him want to fuck her, regardless of how he felt about her personally. Slott's so pathetic of a writer he doesn't even BOTHER to try and make his donutsteel likable, she just has the POWER to make Peter love her.

>What? Shes had her powers as long as Peter has, and shes had more than 10 years of exploring and perfecting them if you count her time with Ezekiel.
But she hasn't been using those powers. She's been stuck in a room with nothing to fight, or sense, or anything. Peter's spent that time super-heroing against world ending threats. This is impossible to justify and you know it.

>Well for the purposes of Spider-verse, someone had to be. It's much easier to make the new character do it since, in this case, it makes sense, rather than an established one and have everyone asking "why now?"
Again, you're making shitty excuses and not addressing the problem. Introducing a brand new character and saying "SHE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT SPIDER-PERSON EVER!" reeks of poor writing, because there are dozens of other Spider-people that COULD have received that role to get a spotlight they were denied in Spider-Verse. Instead, Slott's devoted a quarter of the event to a character no one likes and has never heard of prior to the event, when we WANTED to be reading about our favorite alt-verse Spider-person.
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No. Literally, who the fuck is Silk?
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>>68921958
>costume is shit
She has the best costume for any spider female. She has a better costume than, spiderman himself most of the time.
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>>68923095
This.

Spider-Woman would have worked better because she's got pheromone powers anyway.
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>>68923128
That's mostly because Pete keeps having his costume torn the fuck up all the time.

I do like her using her webs for her costume though, I like the idea of her showing up a little differently every time just like with whatever she was wearing kind of webbed up, but I assume she's gotten a real costume since I last saw her.
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>>68922685
>It was prep. Knowing your enemy and taking measures to counteract their abilities before you engage is prep, which is exactly what she did.
No she didn't , Because they did not show it. She fought him once but didn't show her learning from any of the experience in fact it showed her having no trouble she just had to rescue Peter that was it. She didn't learn because she is written terribly. She is being made to be this infaulable being that can't be wrong.
>Yeah, you're not understanding what I'm saying.

She was already slated to be better than Peter, she even told him to leave New York, the bigger thing in mind had already been revealed and that is deviant art level writing. They already told you what big amazing destiny she already has, and thanks to her undisclosed and brushed under the carpet training she is already more powerful than Peter, they just threw her power development out the window by stated that she has all of peters freaking powers, but better.
You just said she has her own unique power set yet all she has is the same powers as Peter but better. Also what you described was a Mary Sue,is a special snowflake that has a big destiny. Because thanks to her going off on her own like that guess what she found?! Uncle Ben! So if you haven't been paying attention she's already the most important woman in the multiverse because she is the spider bride! Have you not been reading any of the comics?
You really don't when the thing that is out to get you can still get you. You are reading into her character that isn't there.
>Yeah he's just going to jump right into a large planet with a ton of superheros that know he's evil, while looking for a needle in a haystack. Great idea. Ezekiel obviously knew a way to throw Marlun off.
He found spider man and Ezekiel didn't he? Plus with the weaver of worlds, Morlun wouldnt have problem finding her since he did it with all the other fucking spider-men and women in the goddamn multiverse.
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>>68923128
>She has a better costume than, spiderman himself most of the time.
Fuck no. 90 percent of Spider-Man suits are better than this shit. Even Arana's first costume was better.
Her costume is atrocious.
>bland white combined with ugly-looking purple and shitty hood
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>>68923079
They dont anymore, anon.

Black Cat said she loves Spidey, but that everything in her world goes wrong because of him.
>MJ is dating Pedro, "Ollie", and is quite happy.
>Carlie decided to leave to 'find herself'.
>Silver Sable is dead after confessing she likes Peter.
>Liz Osborn hates Spiderman.
>The Cute Midget Girl loved Otto.

Everyone hates Spiderman or is apathetic now.

The Sexy Age is gone.

Long live Silk?
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Spider-Man already did the 'webbing costume'
to greater results.

He also webbed his ass cheeks together
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>>68921826
But WE'RE familiar with the world, so why do we care about this bitch who thinks she's more important than Peter or anyone in Peter's life, and by likely extension any other superhero that's already operating thrusting herself into a world that neither needs nor cares about her?
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>>68923199
Surely Spider-Gwen will meet Pete and we'll have a bitch that loves Spidey.
Won't we?
Guys?
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>>68923205
I'm all for fun comics, but this is just obnoxious.
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>>68923185
I can name tons of ugly spidermen. I can understand your opinion though, its just retarded.
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>>68922278
>"Other, Scion, and BRIDE"
Shit, she's part of a holy spider trinity
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>>68923199
Fuck Slott for doing this. and Fuck Silk for being the reason he did it.

Silk is Spidey version of what Countdown did for DC.
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>>68922040
>Peter is overcome by desire to fuck
>Silk tries to make him fuck
>Peter says he's married
>Cindy doesn't care because she's a sociopath and thinks only SHE matters and everyone else can take a hike
>Peter nearly succumbs, only to regain himself just before a kiss, and flees.
>Tells everything to Mary Jane, ashamed of how he couldn't control himself.
>Mary Jane is angry at Peter, but far more angry at Silk.
>Silk breaks into Peter's home at night because she wants sex, and obviously men can't be raped so this is okay.
>Sees Spider-Man waiting for her in the living room, goes to kiss him.
>Cops a feel on his chest, feels tits
>What
>It's Mary Jane in Pete's costume.
>MJ webs her to a wall, then grabs a baseball bat and beats the fucking hell out of her.
>"STAY! AWAY! FROM! MY! HUSBAND!"
>Tosses an unconscious Silk out onto the street.
>Pete walks out half-asleep. "Mary Jane? What was all that noise? Are you okay?"
>"Go back to sleep, tiger. It was just a nasty little pest. I took care of it."
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>>68923218
They've already met and briefly bonded over being unable to save the Gwen and Peter of their respective worlds.
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>>68923254
Nothing with Silk can be holy.
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>>68923113
see
>>68922991
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Guys, I'm going to make an original character
>Asian guy
>Was bitten by the salamander that was bitten by the spider that bit Peter Parker
>has a whacky nature to appeal to the younger crowd
>only power is to weird villains out
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>>68921518
That is the hotttest midget I have ever seen
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>>68918913
Go away Slott, Nobody likes your shitty OC.
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>>68923268
N-no kissing?
did...did they hug at least?
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>>68922685
>Yeah, you're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm saying that they're writing her differently with the bigger picture in mind, hoping people respond well. It's a very small risk so why not give it a shot?
>People that write that type of shit make their characters mary sues. Cindy is not a mary sue. She makes a shit ton of mistakes and wouldn't have pulled through any of the extremely bad ones without help.
>He gave her a unique powerset, sure, but are you saying that he should have given her a bland one? If Slott would properly write Peter, there's no way in hell she would be able to take him in a fight or do the things he can do at this point. He has experience and raw physical strength on her while she's simply fast, immature, and inexperienced.
>She has the potential to be better than Peter, but she's not even close to being there yet and her flaws have been made very obvious.
Her only flaw is they made er unlikable and ran off to a world that could be a safe haven for the spiders, you know she didn't learn her lesson in fact it's going to happen again because she is a mary sue.
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>>68923294
do it, weird superheroes are great
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>>68923128
I agree with this. I love how artist for the spider Gwen said that he wanted to create something unique in contrast to all the other Spider Woman/Girl costumes. Like seriously every other female spider is just wearing Peter costume but with boob.
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>>68923032
>MJ stops hanging with Peter
That was all happening before Silk, mostly thanks to Otto. Not her fault

>Black Cat goes Evil.
Otto's fault.

>Carlie disappears.
Not Silk's fault.
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>>68923294
NYEEEEEEEEEEEEEES~
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>>68923318
No kissing and I can't remember if they hugged, but they promised to watch each other's backs.
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>>68923095
>Stupid writing being employed in comic books prior to this character does not justify stupid writing being employed for THIS character. People are supposed to learn from their mistakes. This reflects poorly on comic book writers as much as it does on the character, that in this day and age we're still getting characters with introductions as forced and half-assed as Silk's.
Yes, but the way people use it as justification for hating a character instead of the writer is stupid. Sure, said character is being written by that writer, but he's writing her very well if you can get past that and wait for more in her solo. A character is more than its origin and introduction.

>You're completely incorrect. From moment one, her pheromones made him want to fuck her, regardless of how he felt about her personally. Slott's so pathetic of a writer he doesn't even BOTHER to try and make his donutsteel likable, she just has the POWER to make Peter love her.
Pretty sure that's not how it was explained at all, since it hasn't really been explored much.

>But she hasn't been using those powers. She's been stuck in a room with nothing to fight, or sense, or anything. Peter's spent that time super-heroing against world ending threats. This is impossible to justify and you know it.
She was fucking trained to use and control her powers. Do you think she stopped training when she was caged up for some reason?

> Introducing a brand new character and saying "SHE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT SPIDER-PERSON EVER!"
That's extreme hyperbole. She's extremely important to the plot, but that's it so far. Just like how Hope was important for that shitty AvX story, but after that she was no longer important.

>there are dozens of other Spider-people that COULD have received that role
Yeah, and then you're wondering why it didn't happen sooner since Morlun would obviously have been able to track that person ASAP. It would have to have been a completely different story for that to have happened.
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>>68923333
And all three of those characters were written out of Peter's life by Slott, to pave the way for Silk. Are you retarded or something? Did you not NOTICE that Slott was carefully removing or sabotaging all the supporting characters that he didn't create?
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>>68923358
>Watch each other's backs
Backsides, right?
No one can resist the Spider-Butt.
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>>68923264
And then Silk becomes a supervillain with the sole goal of raping Spider-Man.

IF I CATCH YOU I'M GONNA FUCK YOU!
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>>68923378
>Why don't you webswing faster!? IT'S NOT FUN WHEN YOU GIVE IN! GOD DAMN IT PETER!
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>>68923389
>You've been chasing me for nine days! STOP TRYING TO FUCK ME!
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>>68923264
You ruined my perfectly good cuckquean fantasy

I hate you
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>>68923295
G5422797 on the site without mothers.
Have fun.
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>>68923378
So silks super power is being outrageously fuckable?
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>>68923406
>JUST A LIL HUMP N' BUMP PLEASE!?

All while swinging past other super heroes.
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Here is what I don't get: how many Spider-women/girls did we have before, and who fucking thought we needed another one?

Especially with the laziest, shittiest origin ever.
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>>68923370
>A character is more than its origin and introduction.
I know but the more we get of silk the worse she gets.

>Pretty sure that's not how it was explained at all, since it hasn't really been explored much.
Let literally explained she has a magic pussy for petter

>She was fucking trained to use and control her powers. Do you think she stopped training when she was caged up for some reason?
The best method of training is doing, petter should be better than her out of sheer experience and training. Would have been a better character if she thought she was better than petter to learn she isn't because her training doesn't beat his experience and she could grow from it... BUT NNNOOOOOO that would be too good.
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>>68919739
link to the uncensored version?
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>>68923427
I know, right?
Spider-Woman Jess was probably taken with as much salt as Silk is now, but due to the fact she BARELY INTERACTED WITH SPIDER-MAN helped her grow as her own character.
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>>68923425
>I'm here to put an end to your evil ways, Carnage and-
>FUCK TIME
>NO SILK NO!
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>>68923425
>Spidey gets desperate, goes to Chameleon for help
>Chameleon poses as Spidey and tries to keep Silk "distracted"
>ends up in the hospital with a broken penis and bruised testicles

>meanwhile, Deadpool hears about the crazy spider-chick who wants Spidey's D
>buys a cheap Spidey costume from a toy store and tries to put the moves on Silk
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>>68923370
>That's extreme hyperbole. She's extremely important to the plot, but that's it so far. Just like how Hope was important for that shitty AvX story, but after that she was no longer important.
that's what makes silk a terrible character, she's important to one plot then no one will care, Silk will have no staying power, she's a terrible character.
>Yes, but the way people use it as justification for hating a character instead of the writer is stupid. Sure, said character is being written by that writer, but he's writing her very well if you can get past that and wait for more in her solo. A character is more than its origin and introduction.
Who the writer is and how he/she writes is justification for hating the character because he/she is writing them! they created the character!
>Pretty sure that's not how it was explained at all, since it hasn't really been explored much.

no that is how it was explained
>That's extreme hyperbole. She's extremely important to the plot, but that's it so far. Just like how Hope was important for that shitty AvX story, but after that she was no longer important. No,
that's actually accurate, considering the whole fate of the Multiverse is at stake here.
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>>68923370
Holy shit, are you delusional or just a shitposter? None of the things you're saying make any sense.

>Yes, but the way people use it as justification for hating a character instead of the writer is stupid. Sure, said character is being written by that writer, but he's writing her very well if you can get past that and wait for more in her solo. A character is more than its origin and introduction.
In what comic book has she been well written? The one where she does nothing but solve all of Peter's problems for him, and then pheromones him into trying to have sex with her? The one where she acts like a bitch to him and we're supposed to accept it because she's just sensing he's in danger because her powers are SO MUCH MORE SPECIAL AND BETTER than his and can sense the oncoming danger better than anyone else? The one where she stumbles across the one world in the ENTIRE FUCKING MULTIVERSE where the Morluns can't chase her, completely by fluke, and we're supposed to treat it like a triumph? The one where she disobeys orders for the hundredth time and gets one of their precious few dimensional travel devices destroyed? She's written horribly. She acts like a spoiled brat with a fucking mental handicap that is still somehow better, as stated by the narration, than any other Spider-Person and does things better than them just 'cause.

>Pretty sure that's not how it was explained at all, since it hasn't really been explored much.
This isn't a matter of opinion, your "pretty sure" doesn't mean squat. You're factually wrong on this. Silk's pheromones make Peter extremely horny and wanting to mate with her. This has not happened to any other Spider-Person she has met.
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>She was fucking trained to use and control her powers. Do you think she stopped training when she was caged up for some reason?
Training does not equate practical experience. Someone who punches a punching bag for ten years is not a match for someone who's been fighting people trying to kill him for that same amount of time. You would know this if you had experience in any task, ever.

>That's extreme hyperbole. She's extremely important to the plot, but that's it so far. Just like how Hope was important for that shitty AvX story, but after that she was no longer important.
You just said that it's extreme hyperbole that Silk is basically the center of the plot, and then stated she's basically the center of the plot. You're a fucking moron.

>Yeah, and then you're wondering why it didn't happen sooner since Morlun would obviously have been able to track that person ASAP. It would have to have been a completely different story for that to have happened.
Then make a different story! Spider-Verse hasn't been very good, if you weren't paying attention. The only parts worth reading have been the tie-in materials that explore interaction between the various Spider-Men, which would have happened regardless of what the actual "point" of the event was. So maybe Slott should have gone back to the drawing board instead of churning out this abomination.
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>>68923175
>No she didn't , Because they did not show it.
Yes they did. She knew what Electro could do before they fought, so she webbed Peter up to protect him when they were in the car.

>She fought him once but didn't show her learning from any of the experience
So, she's not going to notice the guy shooting lightning that she's dodging? Really? They don't need to make a whole page or even a panel for someone to know that.

>She was already slated to be better than Peter
But she's not. Not yet anyway.

>she even told him to leave New York,
A writer highlighting her immaturity from 10 years of no human contact.

>she is already more powerful than Peter
Raw power is one thing, using it effectively in different situations is another. She's not experience enough to do that yet, so while she's more powerful in theory, it's a whole nother thing in practice.

Also, don't forget that Peter still has raw physical strength over her.

> Also what you described was a Mary Sue,is a special snowflake that has a big destiny
A Mary Sue is typically defined as an idealized character. She does not fit that definition at all.

>she's already the most important woman in the multiverse because she is the spider bride
Yeah, that's not even close to being true. Current 616 Jean for example is much more important than Cindy.

>He found spider man and Ezekiel didn't he? Plus with the weaver of worlds, Morlun wouldnt have problem finding her since he did it with all the other fucking spider-men and women in the goddamn multiverse.
This is something I do have a problem with, since Ezekiel obviously did something to that room ro prevent Morlun from finding her, but we don't know how he did that yet.
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>>68923408
I live to serve. PeterxMJ OTP
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Does Spider-Man even teach classes at Xavier's still?

>Alright kids, today I'm going to teach you how to hone your powers and skills and
>Silk starts knocking on the window
>with her pelvis
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>>68919147

>hey, let's go to the inheritor homeworld to rescue the super secret agent spider who has extensive experience operating undercover, what could go wrong?
>whoopsie i got our only means of escape broken by blocking a sword with it despite having super reflexes and spider sense! tee hee silly me

She's a shit character and an actual Mary Sue. Same origin as the MC, great at fighting despite being trapped in a bunker for over a decade, gorgeous, not lacking social skills despite being trapped in a bunker for over a decade, better powers than the MC, and even has the ability make the MC want to fuck her. It's cringeworthy, and I really can't see how anyone could like her.
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I want to see Pete give Anna flowers and say she's pretty.
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>>68923128
>She has the best costume for any spider female.

I beg to differ.
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... I thought her last name was Macaroni.
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>>68923609
He said costume, not ass Anon.
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>>68923586
I don't think they even like each other, given that Anna loved Otto and is pretty annoyed with Peter "happy go lucky" attitude.
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>>68923571
>Pete ends up locking himself in Silk's old bunker just to get away from the crazy lady who wants to rape him silly
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>>68923609
Im not talking about how great her ass is. Im not talking about that puffy pussy. I give her second place for sure though.
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>>68923624
It's all about Pete getting his Bitches back.
Years from now this arc right now shall be called the Bitches Saga.
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>>68923628
>The door knob slowly turns
>HOW'D YOU GET IN!?
>I had the key the entire time.
>HELP
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>>68923537
>Yes they did. She knew what Electro could do before they fought, so she webbed Peter up to protect him when they were in the car.
No she didn't prep! they jumped from one battle to the next
>So, she's not going to notice the guy shooting lightning that she's dodging? Really? They don't need to make a whole page or even a panel for someone to know that.
No I expect a scene of them fucking preping for the next time than just some retard saying "Oh hey she was already good beating electro, Now she's Gooder!"
>But she's not. Not yet anyway.
Do you have eyes? because it was show she was already, Saved his life 2 fucking times.
>Raw power is one thing, using it effectively in different situations is another. She's not experience enough to do that yet, so while she's more powerful in theory, it's a whole nother thing in practice.

Also, don't forget that Peter still has raw physical strength over her.

You don't know that she hasn't gotten more raw power than peter, all you are doing is making assumptions and thinking them as what actually happened.
>A Mary Sue is typically defined as an idealized character. She does not fit that definition at all.
Being the most important Woman in the Multiverse isn't Idealized for you yet? She's got everything that defines her as a Mary Sue, her being immature gave the spiders an advantage. Did you read the comic?
>This is something I do have a problem with, since Ezekiel obviously did something to that room ro prevent Morlun from finding her, but we don't know how he did that yet.
the reason was because spider man killed him twice already so he stopped going back.
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>>68923586
>>68923624
>Anna Maria finds Peter irresponsible and childish, constantly comparing him to Otto
>Peter bucks up and starts running the company efficiently
>Constantly goes out of his way to help everyone he can
>His selflessness and positive attitude slowly win her over
>Anna Maria falls in love with Peter
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>>68919610
>>68919610
>Potential

Everything has potential. Crossed had potential, trouble had potential, potential doesn't mean shit. Sure Silk could be an interesting and well-written character, the potential exists, but nothing we have seen so far indicates that she will develop any interesting qualities outside of "inexperienced spider-waifu"
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>>68923657
>Peter joins the Guardians of the Galaxy as an excuse to leave Earth and get away from Silk
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>>68922991

Yeah, this sums it up very nicely. I do feel bad for the poor bastard who's gotten stuck with her book.
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Reminder that Slott is still just pulling powers out of his ass for her.

>her webbing somehow can insulate against radiation
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>>68923449
>I know but the more we get of silk the worse she gets.
Eh, I don't feel that way.

>Let literally explained she has a magic pussy for petter
I missed this, probably from reading too fast. Which issue is that in?

>The best method of training is doing, petter should be better than her out of sheer experience and training.
Yeah, he should be, but Slott's not writing him that way which I already said is dumb.

If you look at Peters recent feats before Amazing/Superior, it's clear that he's much better than Cindy. Current canon doesn't erase previous impressive showing and feats.

>>68923509
>that's what makes silk a terrible character, she's important to one plot then no one will care, Silk will have no staying power, she's a terrible character.
Can I have your crystal ball?

>Who the writer is and how he/she writes is justification for hating the character because he/she is writing them! they created the character!
If the writer is fucking up the character then yeah, sure. Some writers can write a certain character well, or certain type of character well, but fuck up everything else. Which I feel is what's happening here.


>>68923511
>In what comic book has she been well written?
Pretty much every one she's in, with a few exceptions

>The one where she acts like a bitch to him and we're supposed to accept it because she's just sensing he's in danger because her powers are SO MUCH MORE SPECIAL AND BETTER than his and can sense the oncoming danger better than anyone else? The one where she stumbles across the one world in the ENTIRE FUCKING MULTIVERSE where the Morluns can't chase her, completely by fluke, and we're supposed to treat it like a triumph? The one where she disobeys orders for the hundredth time and gets one of their precious few dimensional travel devices destroyed?
>She acts like a spoiled brat with a fucking mental handicap
I mean, she did absolutely nothing for 10 years. Of course she's going to make dumb calls and be immature.
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>>68923675
>spider-harem
this is not what I signed up for
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>>68923677
Judging by several post, Silk could be a hilarious joke character. But just a one gag only character.
"I'm gonna fuck dat Spider-Man". And it doesn't take away from her original intent either!
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>>68923682
>Silk webs a spaceship viva 60s spidey style
>"I WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET YOUR DICK PETER, EVEN IF IT KILLS ME"
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>>68923682
>Silk fucks her way into space to find him.
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>>68923682
>Silk follows him into space somehow
>ends up stealing the Venom symbiote from Flash
>WWWEEEE WANT TO FUCK SPIIIIDER-MAAAAAN
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>>68923725
>implying

Pete's just building his Bitches back up. A spider-Man without Bitches is nary a Spider-Man at all.
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>>68923675
I'm sorry anon, but that would mean we got something nice and characters develop and grow. This is not the genre for that. You will have your boring OCs and retrograde character development and like it.

Have some Jemma by way of apology.
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>>68923762
You realize how dumb this is? He's a teacher. In Xavier's school.

He's hot. Dat ass.
Doesn't judge mutants
Witty/funny

All those Mutie girls are fucking GUSHING. There's not enough lesbians in the world to plug up these dykes.
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>>68923205
that anatomy is horrid.
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>>68923718
>Can I have your crystal ball?
it's called common sense
>If the writer is fucking up the character then yeah, sure. Some writers can write a certain character well, or certain type of character well, but fuck up everything else. Which I feel is what's happening here.
That's the freaking creator who is writing her, she was terrible from the beginning.
>I mean, she did absolutely nothing for 10 years. Of course she's going to make dumb calls and be immature.
Man you said she was training earlier in your argument. Also her dumb calls still came out ok because of the shitty plot. She's a terrible character.
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>>68923718
>I mean, she did absolutely nothing for 10 years. Of course she's going to make dumb calls and be immature.

Then why isn't she also shit at fighting because she was locked up for 10 years with absolutely no experience fighting living opponents? Same principles apply: practice is no substitute for actual interactions.
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>>68918913
I kinda want to see how her ongoing is because she hasn't done anything but be a plot device for spiderverse

>>68919365
>she is a deviant art tier Mary sue

I don't think she is one because you have to do something other than be a walking macguffin to be a mary sue. that's like saying the arc of the covenant, the one ring and the sorcerer's stone are mary sues.

also you have to realize it would be silly to introduce a character and not give them spotlight
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>>68923779
I honestly don't know anything recent about Spider-Man, last I saw Silk was getting a job after JJ fucked up unmasking Pete.
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>>68923808
Wolverine died. Again, and before he did, asked Peter to be a teacher in the school because Peter was the only one he trusted.
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>>68923664
>No she didn't prep! they jumped from one battle to the next
So, webbing up Spidey with her special webbing in order to counter Electro's powers before they fight isn't prep?

>No I expect a scene of them fucking preping for the next time
That would have been completely unnecessary given her power set

>Do you have eyes? because it was show she was already, Saved his life 2 fucking times.
That's Slott being retarded, not Peter being weak.

>You don't know that she hasn't gotten more raw power than peter, all you are doing is making assumptions and thinking them as what actually happened.
It was confirmed in ASM issue 4.

>Being the most important Woman in the Multiverse
But she isn't

>isn't Idealized for you yet?
No, because she has many other flaws that really push her out of that definition.
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>>68923609
>>68923645
my problem with this is the yellow & red color combo also the mask is kinda silly when it only hides the eyes
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>>68923880
well, eyes and sizable amount of face. You have nothing to go on in regards to forehead, cheek bones can be ill difined, so on.
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>>68921424
>yfw she creates tentacles to try to help Peter out because she still has a physical attraction to him
>she becomes Doc Ock
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>>68923880
I love the outfit and the mask covers everything but her mouth
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>>68922064
When you isolate a pwrson from real life social contact, for 10 years, it does things to a person's mental state. Even if they have already emotionally developed into adulthood. Even if they have TV to watch. Having TV with no real human connection is even worse. It would not have surprised me if she had an inviaible friend, or weird quirks like twitching, or talking to herself a lot.

Ten years. She was alone ten years.just really consider that for a moment.
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>>68923796
>That's the freaking creator who is writing her, she was terrible from the beginning.
I think he's writing her well for the most part. Sure you can focus ONLY on the dumb shit he wrote, but I'm not.

>Man you said she was training earlier in your argument.
Ok, let me be more specific since you want to nitpick. Its been established that she trained with Ezekiel prior to being caged for 10 years, so it's pretty realistic and safe to assume that she did the same while locked up. By "doing absolutely nothing", I thought that it was clear I meant she had absolutely no way to interact with another human being during that time. My mistake. So, of course if you have no human interaction for 10 years your people skills might fall off a bit.

>Also her dumb calls still came out ok because of the shitty plot
Yes, but a dumb call is still a dumb call. It's still a character flaw in her case. The outcome of the call doesn't change that.

>>68923797
see above
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>>68923818
So which group of mutants is he teaching for the good guys or the good guys gone bad or the real bad guys?

And how can he be a teacher and run a company?
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Jesus christ, I sincerely hope it's just OP and like one other guy defending their precious waifu here and that /co/ hasn't seriously changed their mind on this piece of shit.
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>>68923819
>So, webbing up Spidey with her special webbing in order to counter Electro's powers before they fight isn't prep?
But how did she know that the web would insulate against thousands of volts of electricity?
Did she spend last 10 yeas electrocuting herself in the bunker just in case she fought a guy with electric powers?
>That would have been completely unnecessary given her power set
See above.
>That's Slott being retarded, not Peter being weak.
Writer decides what powers are available to character, sadly for sake of promoting his OC he make Peter completly useless.
>>Being the most important Woman in the Multiverse
>But she isn't
This is same thing that happend to Hope Summers, she is important because plot reason but once the event is over the entire thing will fall in to obscurity without anybody rememberer it and only care about whatever new even of the year.
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>>68923912

>10 years

That basically makes her the female version Oldboy, she'd literally be unable to contain her spaghetti at any point.
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>>68923922
Spider-Man probably dumps all his work onto the midget. And seeing how he was personally asked by Wolverine, I'm guessing he's teaching them to be good?
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>>68923917
>Sure you can focus ONLY on the dumb shit he wrote, but I'm not.

You fucking ignoramus, if you're gonna keep spouting "Oh no she's totally written just A-OK" then you're gonna have to SHOW US where she was written well, because so far we have described what I'm fairly confident is her every single appearance in Marvel Comic Books to this date, and your only response is "Oh but she's written fine in all the other appearances she's made!"

WHERE

ARE

THEY
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>>68923929

/co/ certainly has not.
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>>68923929
See
>>68921392
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>>68923944
I would actually be okay with that
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>>68923819
>So, webbing up Spidey with her special webbing in order to counter Electro's powers before they fight isn't prep?
No, not when her special webbing was already there you moron. Prep indicates that they have to make modifications, and know what was going to happen, not jump to the next battle especially when they had no idea that machine would over load.
>That would have been completely unnecessary given her power set
Then why the fuck in the beginning of the argument she had fucking prep time, you've talked in circles to the point where you have proven yourself wrong. You're not even paying attention to what the fuck you are saying.
>That's Slott being retarded, not Peter being weak.
Slott being retarded is what is making peter weak.
>But she isn't
Oh my god, is that your response? It's been proven she is, SOOOOO fucking much that she's getting her own comic! Being the spider Bride is what makes her so undesirably important.
>No, because she has many other flaws that really push her out of that definition.
Then what? because your argument was she was inexperienced and immature and that was debunked because thanks to that she was able to find a new safe haven. You're not making a good case infact you made the case that she is a Mary Sue by not providing proper evidence she isn't.
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>>68923947
There's like fifty different brotherhoods now, who can keep track of who is and isn't an asshole when it comes to mutants?
Trick question, all mutants are assholes.
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>>68923929
Apparently it's some guy in the k-pop general doing this.

>>>/mu/53060932
>Well, I'm not him but I made the Silk appreciation thread on /co/, and I will force her until more people on that board like her.
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>>68923993
>all mutants are assholes
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>>68923982

>she lusts after Peter's cock not because of retarded hormones but because she's basically socially immature and can't handle or process sexual feelings

>freaks the fuck out at the smallest things with extremem violence and can barely hold conversations because of her imprisonment
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>>68924012
its missing the baby ducks crossing the road. I loved runaways, im sad they are canceled so often.
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>tfw no asian spider-gf with an insatiable hunger for your dick
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>>68923917
>I think he's writing her well for the most part. Sure you can focus ONLY on the dumb shit he wrote, but I'm not.

That's all that's there! Now you are going off of your mentally unstable imagination there is nothing else!
>Ok, let me be more specific since you want to nitpick. Its been established that she trained with Ezekiel prior to being caged for 10 years, so it's pretty realistic and safe to assume that she did the same while locked up. By "doing absolutely nothing", I thought that it was clear I meant she had absolutely no way to interact with another human being during that time. My mistake. So, of course if you have no human interaction for 10 years your people skills might fall off a bit.
Also you need to pay attention to what you are saying because all you do is contradict yourself every post. What was established that she was trained, with out a flash back, just because she said so. That's a mark of a terrible character.
>Yes, but a dumb call is still a dumb call. It's still a character flaw in her case. The outcome of the call doesn't change that.
It's not a flaw when there was no repercussions. She didn't learn anything!
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>>68924012
ALL MUTANTS ARE ASSHOLES AND SHOULD BE KILLED ON SIGHT
NO EXCEPTIONS
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>>68924105
/pure/ pls leave
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>>68924105
AROUND MUTIES

HIDE THE RED-HAIRED CUTIES
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Next time I visit them I will piss on theirs sea otters.
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>>68923940
>But how did she know that the web would insulate against thousands of volts of electricity?
She said that she knew she could spin webbing to do that. Obviously the first thing to come to mind as to how she knew, is her training from Ezekiel.

>Writer decides what powers are available to character, sadly for sake of promoting his OC he make Peter completly useless.
Doesn't erase his past showings and feats, unless he specifically retcons them.

>>68923949
They're in the spider books. I can point to specific issues/pages but I have to skim through them all again, which I might do.

>>68923987
>No, not when her special webbing was already there you moron. Prep indicates that they have to make modifications
Her webbing wasn't already there, she had to make adjustments. She had to spin the webbing so it would protect him.

>Oh my god, is that your response? It's been proven she is, SOOOOO fucking much that she's getting her own comic! Being the spider Bride is what makes her so undesirably important.
I'm pretty sure 616 Jean is the most important woman in the multiverse, and has been for years now.

>Then what? because your argument was she was inexperienced and immature and that was debunked because thanks to that she was able to find a new safe haven.
Being immature and making mistakes that other people have to bail you out of are not traits of a Mary Sue.

>>68924091
>That's all that's there!
Except that's not true at all

>What was established that she was trained, with out a flash back, just because she said so
It's the only plausible explanation for how she has so much control over her powers, and how she knows how to fight in the first place.

>It's not a flaw when there was no repercussions.
Yes it is. Something bad happening turning into something good does not change that a bad thing happened.

>She didn't learn anything!
Character flaw
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>>68923318

Best we got was gentle cheek touching.

Infinitely better connection than anything Silk has or will do.
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>>68924353
at least they seem mentally strong, I would have grabbed her and held her thinking some shit needing to hold my gwen one more time. Hell, id ask her out.
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>>68924387
Hasn't Pete had to deal with Gwen being cloned like a hundred times, and coming back from the dead and dying again, and all sorts of other shit?
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>>68924237
seriously you now are condradicting your self in just one post now.
>She said that she knew she could spin webbing to do that. Obviously the first thing to come to mind as to how she knew, is her training from Ezekiel.
Then why would she need prep time at all? Mary Sue
>They're in the spider books. I can point to specific issues/pages but I have to skim through them all again, which I might do.
I have proof I just don't have them is what you are saying
>I'm pretty sure 616 Jean is the most important woman in the multiverse, and has been for years now.
Ok you're not getting it, In the Spider-Man Series she is the most important right now, in the spider verse she is the most important right now, you realize during the spider verse there was not fucking mention of Jean you mongoloid.
>Being immature and making mistakes that other people have to bail you out of are not traits of a Mary Sue.
No it doesn't when your character succeeds because of them! Why are you so retarded?
>Except that's not true at all
You are retarded aren't you? because you haven't given any proof you're just being a retarded fanboy
>Yes it is. Something bad happening turning into something good does not change that a bad thing happened.
No it makes her fucking personality infallible so she can never be wrong. Having bad traits and not answering for them in fact encourages those traits to make her a Mary Fucking Sue.
>Character flaw
you need to go to school because you have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>68923370
>A character is more than its origin and introduction.
First impression is everything. Slott invented this character. He chose all the details of the character. How we see her now IS her character. It isn't going to get better later.
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>>68924406
Not every peter. I also couldn't see myself getting desensitized to watching one of my loves die, even if they are clones.
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>>68924237
>She said that she knew she could spin webbing to do that
Reread >But how did she know that the web would insulate against thousands of volts of electricity?
>Obviously the first thing to come to mind as to how she knew, is her training from Ezekiel.
So Ezekiel just randomly decided to trained her in case in a next decade some guy gained a electric base powers?

>Doesn't erase his past showings and feats, unless he specifically retcons them.
Peter never really have a problem with Electro, he always dodge his bolt but for whatever reason his powers where completely jobbed; spider-sense ignored, super reflexes non-existential, all knowledge and experience from fights that happen before seem to completely famished.

>Being immature and making mistakes that other people have to bail you out of are not traits of a Mary Sue.
Possibly, however because of these exactly traits several Spider-People have died and even than she refused to get her shit together and only cause more mysery to these around her ~AND for whatever reason the writer still belives that she is the one that readers whats to associate with.
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>>68924387

I love the simplicity of the connection in itself while holding the deeper implications of seeing the alternate version of a loved one they each failed to save. Has much greater potential to grow into something more... if we had better writers.
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>>68924445
We will never get a few pages of each one of them saying how different they were before they put on their masks. We will never hear about the peter that supported or tried to protect spidergwen.
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Silk doesn't even have an ass. All Spiders have an ass of some sort.
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>>68923753
>>68923734
>>68923378
>>68923264
Guys, Silk would totally works as a Spider-Villain. But she should be weakier.
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>>68924551
no if a villain then she should be stronger giving peter more of a challenge, that's what good writing is.
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>>68924481
>A comic of Peter and Spider-Gwen just talking.
>They both share some stories about the other's world and such.
>Real touching things
>And then at the end they don't kiss.
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>>68924481

>Spidey and Spider-Gwen will never fight crime together

>They will never sit on a rooftop together listening to Gwen's music.

>They will never realize that they have a second chance and redouble their efforts to protect each other.

Now I'm in the mood to write Spidey stuff again.
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>>68924353
He's pushing 30 and she's like college age. It's kinda creepy.
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>>68924599
No. His challenge are going being to not hurt she, since he know she is weakier and are doing no crime but giving boner ir married men.
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>>68924608
> its 6 issues epic saga
>With over 4 different crossovers and 2 even books
>also Kitty throw a tomato at Gwen 'cause she is a goyim that killed Peter
>written by Bendis
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>>68918913
>She gets too much hate.
yea nah
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>>68924608
this is what I feel
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>>68924656
>Gwen's Music

Thanks for reminding me

>"Oh My God, Is that Mary Jane?"
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>Then why would she need prep time at all?
Because she obviously needed time to spin the webbing like that. You still don't seem to understand how prep time is commonly defined, and it fits here even if it doesn't fit your narrow view of prep. Prep can take seconds, and it can take years.

>I have proof I just don't have them is what you are saying
There's no such thing as proof when we're talking opinions about whether a character is written well or not. I have the comics on my Marvel library, but I don't feel like screencapping all of them.

Here's one from the newest issue though, since it's the freshest on my mind. Here she shows that she's worried about Jess, and then sets off to try rescue her. It shows that she's a caring person, but boy does she do some dumb shit because of what happens after. Sure it works out by pure luck, but she still did something incredibly dumb. It was charming though, and I really liked the way she was written here.

>Ok you're not getting it, In the Spider-Man Series she is the most important right now, in the spider verse she is the most important right now, you realize during the spider verse there was not fucking mention of Jean you mongoloid.
You said that she was the most important woman in the multiverse. You never specified anything. There's a huge fucking difference between what you said and what you meant.

>No it doesn't when your character succeeds because of them! Why are you so retarded?
She herself doesn't succeed. She gets bailed out most of the time. If she was single handedly doing this shit, then I would agree with you. But she's not.

>You are retarded aren't you? because you haven't given any proof you're just being a retarded fanboy
Again, there's no such thing as proof here. I can give you reasons, and you can give me reasons. That's about it.

>No it makes her fucking personality infallible so she can never be wrong
Now you're not even addressing what I'm saying
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>>68924678
Not for me.
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Silk is the second best thing to ever happen to Spider-Man after Superior Spider-Man.
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>>68924678
Funny that if the genders were reversed everyone would be all "FAPFAP."
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>>68924678
its not creepy, college professors fuck their students all the time.
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>>68924795
That doesn't make it OK.
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>>68924809
It's less creepy. At the very least you know they love each other to the point were they went out in both universes.
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>Spider-Verse ends with Pete and whoever is the most popular alternate Spider-Man surviving.
>Maybe some bullshit thing about SpOck and Anna meeting back up and riding off into the future or something, never to be seen again.
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>>68924875
But Otto still has to go back to the point he vanished from.
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>>68924678

Does Pete even have a confirmed age? I feel like he's perpetually like 26 or so.
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>>68924422
I mean, if you don't like Slott's Silk then maybe you'll like the new guys Silk.

>>68924438
>Reread >But how did she know that the web would insulate against thousands of volts of electricity?
I never said that she did. All I said was that she spun a web that she knew would work against electricity.

>So Ezekiel just randomly decided to trained her in case in a next decade some guy gained a electric base powers?
Ezekiel trained her to control and use her powers. We can only imagine what he taught her, but with her time with him plus 10 years in a cage, alone, who knows all the kinds of webs she learned how to spin in that time. That's a lot of fucking time.

>Peter never really have a problem with Electro, he always dodge his bolt but for whatever reason his powers where completely jobbed; spider-sense ignored, super reflexes non-existential, all knowledge and experience from fights that happen before seem to completely famished.
Yeah, I cant really disagree with that one

I already acknowledged that Slott is gimping Peter to show off Silk. But I feel like that's a reason people use to hate Silk and not Slott, so they have a bias against Silk because Slott is writing her and did a lot of shit to clear the way for her. I think people are ignoring the possibility that although Slott is fucking up a lot, Silk might be one of the few things he's doing right.

>Possibly, however because of these exactly traits several Spider-People have died and even than she refused to get her shit together and only cause more mysery to these around her
Cant really disagree with that either. My point was that those things are big problems which kind of throws Mary Sue out the window, but at the same time I still feel that she's being written well. It's not like she hasn't tried to do better, but rather even when she does she fucks it up so it doesn't seem like it. It shows her inexperience and immaturity very well.
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>>68924886
Okay, see this is what I don't fucking get.
The Otto here is from a past, that went to the future, then back to the past, that would still be the future for him, right?

So before he even comes back he already knows that he's going to get the fuck out of Pete's body, doesn't he?
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>>68924767
She sure is buddy, mix relationships are so hip among kids these days. I would love to see them have a happy relationship that goes in to far future. Just make sure it doesn't go to far or else...
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>>68924907
When in doubt, blame Franklin Richards.
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>>68924726
Because she obviously needed time to spin the webbing like that. You still don't seem to understand how prep time is commonly defined, and it fits here even if it doesn't fit your narrow view of prep. Prep can take seconds, and it can take years.
let me slow it down for you, Preparation is being READY before the event even happens. Even if it was seconds before they would still have to have a plan or at least knowing something ahead of time, there wasn't any. They just wrapped him up knowing the for the best.
>You said that she was the most important woman in the multiverse. You never specified anything. There's a huge fucking difference between what you said and what you meant.
Yeah Guess what the spidervese is covering the fucking multiverse. Those other Spider-men are from other universes. Guess what your Mary Sue is the most important one in the multiverse that is involving Spider-man you literal faggot.
>She herself doesn't succeed. She gets bailed out most of the time. If she was single handedly doing this shit, then I would agree with you. But she's not.
who was it that found the fucking haven on a random chance? Silk, Wake up and smell the shit you're spewing from your mouth.
>Again, there's no such thing as proof here. I can give you reasons, and you can give me reasons. That's about it.
By that sentence alone is my proof, you're constant denial and weak responses show you're just trolling now and badly I might add.
>Now you're not even addressing what I'm saying
It's been addressed, and it was given a logical answer you can't get you're head around. you should just beat your head on a desk and get it over with.
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>>68924950
>these days
>As if Marvel Minority characters haven't been dating whites since the late 70s.
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>>68924983
The only older parings that I can think of are, Iron Fist x Mist Knight, Storm x Wolverine and Spiderman 2099 parents. Are there any more than that ?
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>>68924942
See, here's how it went down.

During Superior Spider-Man, time shit happened and sent Otto to 2099. He tried to get back to his time, but all his attempts took him to other worlds, which lead to him getting involved in Spider-Verse.

Then the Peter from Earth 616, after getting his body back, got involved with Spider-Verse, and ran into Otto. Otto, being the arrogant prick he is, assumed that Peter was from earlier in their timeline, before the whole Dying Wish thing. Peter let him keep thinking that because of reasons.

Then Peter mentions Anna Maria, who Otto/"Peter" only met AFTER Dying Wish, which makes Otto realize that Peter's actually from his future.

I don't know why he forgets that. We'll probably see why soon.
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>>68924924
I think I'm done talking to you I have to go to bed I hope you enjoy dan slotts shit, because that's all you get.
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>>68925105
some one story time this issue and the previous one please
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>>68925105
God that's cute and sad. Does otto actually love Anne? Do you think Anne would have accepted Otto, if he wasn't some kind of dying corpse?
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>>68924967
>let me slow it down for you, Preparation is being READY before the event even happens.
Ok. They were in the car, enemy not engaged yet, then she spun her web around him before even leaving the car.

>Even if it was seconds before they would still have to have a plan or at least knowing something ahead of time
They both knew what Electro could do, so as stated above she took measures to counteract his powers

>there wasn't any. They just wrapped him up knowing the for the best.
She stated in the car that it was going to work. She knew what she was doing.

>Yeah Guess what the spidervese is covering the fucking multiverse. Those other Spider-men are from other universes. Guess what your Mary Sue is the most important one in the multiverse that is involving Spider-man you literal faggot.
There's only one multiverse man

>who was it that found the fucking haven on a random chance? Silk, Wake up and smell the shit you're spewing from your mouth.
I didn't say that she never succeeded on her own, even if by pure luck. Every character has their moment in the sun. But her bad choices still count, and she has made a lot of them. Mary Sues do not have large flaws like she does.

>By that sentence alone is my proof, you're constant denial and weak responses show you're just trolling now and badly I might add.
Yeah, ignore what I provided you with despite me saying that it'll be pointless. Looks like I was right.

>It's been addressed, and it was given a logical answer you can't get you're head around. you should just beat your head on a desk and get it over with.
No, it really hasn't been. You seem to not understand the point, because you've never given a proper answer. You just threw together some unrelated sentence.

If anyone's trolling, I think it's you. Especially with how unnecessarily hostile you've been.
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>>68925161
It's been storytimed. The thread's gone, but it's on the archive.

>>68925201
He was planning to propose to her before Goblin Nation.
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>>68925109
Bye~
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>>68925205
>She stated in the car that it was going to work. She knew what she was doing.
Mary sue with all the answers part of prep time is explaining why something works
>There's only one multiverse man
Then you get it, the most important in the multiverse Right now is Silk
>I didn't say that she never succeeded on her own, even if by pure luck. Every character has their moment in the sun. But her bad choices still count, and she has made a lot of them. Mary Sues do not have large flaws like she does.
Yeah they do, they people who write them don't find them to be faws.
>Yeah, ignore what I provided you with despite me saying that it'll be pointless. Looks like I was right
WHAT PROOF? you havn't provided any but being a retard.
>No, it really hasn't been. You seem to not understand the point, because you've never given a proper answer. You just threw together some unrelated sentence.

If anyone's trolling, I think it's you. Especially with how unnecessarily hostile you've been.
The only thing you said was correct I've been hostile to some one who given you lengthy answers and all you said in response is "No it is it"
You've proven you can't hold an argument and the only way to keep it going is act like an autistic moron and say "no it's not" as a counter argument. You haven't, you've provided you are an insufferable faggot that no one would ever enjoy debating with because of your lack of evidence and lack of judgment.
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>>68921875
>you're my nigga and we roll deep, son.

Slott has no fucking consistency. Silk could be a workable Spiderwoman, if any effort at all was put into her. But it's Slott, and he can't recognize continuity in HIS OWN WORK, much less making his dogshit mesh with the 600+ other issues from the better writers before him. Even within his own Spiderverse shit Morlun gets confused about outliving or dying before his father in dialogue.

SLOTT CAN'T WRITE

If Straczynski had created Silk, nobody would have problems I bet. Meanwhile, people are falling in love with Anna Marie the cuck midget instead of Slott's wish fulfillment, and he can't control it/didn't intend it.
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>>68923264
Look at this anon, writing circles around Slott
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>>68922756
You're a sensible fan.
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>>68925226
Can't find it in the archive
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>>68922756
She's a mouthpiece slut in love with a rapists
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>>68918913
Slott confirmed for wowfag

Anna Marie is what happens when Chromie moves in with a fate-focused superhero and observes, but never (overtly) interferes.
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>>68925645
Than look for Win-O threads in moe, the links should still work
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>>68921423
>Man, Anna Maria is the best thing to come out of that Superior mess.
Agreed
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>>68925411
>Mary sue with all the answers
A few isolated incidents of really cool shit does not make her a Mary Sue.

>Then you get it, the most important in the multiverse Right now is Silk
No, because 616 Jean is a thing. She's kind of a big deal and super powerful.

>Yeah they do, they people who write them don't find them to be faws.
And you have proof of this?

Not that it matters, because even if you did, you wont find too many people that would agree with them. Mary Sues by definition cannot have large flaws like she does. Now, maybe in her solo she gets rid of some of those flaws, but they're part of what make her such a charming character.

>WHAT PROOF? you havn't provided any but being a retard.
You asked for proof of her being written well. Despite the fact that there's no such thing as proof in this situation, I gave you an example which you ignored.

>The only thing you said was correct I've been hostile to some one who given you lengthy answers and all you said in response is "No it is it"
Lengthy "answers" that don't actually answer anything don't deserve a long reply, because they didn't give a relevant answer in the first place. Repeating myself when someone didn't actually address my point is just silly.

>You've proven you can't hold an argument and the only way to keep it going is act like an autistic moron and say "no it's not" as a counter argument. You haven't, you've provided you are an insufferable faggot that no one would ever enjoy debating with because of your lack of evidence and lack of judgment.
You can keep acting aggressive and shouting "you lose" all you want, but I hope you properly address the few things you haven't.
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>>68925749
So your proof is that your waifu is completely perfect and flawless in your mind so you don't feel justified to explain why is that?
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>>68925747
>Anna Maria will never crawl onto you, do a strip tease and then ride you hard and put you away wet.
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>>68925821
He's pretending, you idiot.
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>>68923584

She's three or four TV Tropes pages combined into one. It's really astonishing how glowing the coverage of her is.
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>>68925749
nice samefaging.
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>>68925853
And that's why you'll keep getting baited by posts like OP's.
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>>68919463

Well that's true. She also told Peter he should leave New York because she could handle things and them being near each other only caused them trouble.

Not, you know, anything noble or likable: "Peter, we're drawn to each other and that's not good and we've got to be away from each other. I'll go help out on the West Coast...pretty sure all they have out there are the Runaways and the Girl Punisher."

OR EVEN

"Peter, we have to stay away from each other. You take one side of the city, I'll take the other."

JUST

"Hey I'm better at this than you and we shouldn't fuck so you should leave YOUR LIFELONG HOME AND RESPONSIBILITY TO ME BECAUSE I'M SILK"

Holy shit just remembering that scene pisses me off so much
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>>68925926
Hahah holy shit what a cunt.
Did she get a Spider-Punch at least?
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>>68921424

>that scene where Anna's driving Pete and Silk somewhere and they can't stop making out like prom dates in the back of the car
>she is literally driving around her ex and his new girl while they nearly fuck in her car

Being Anna is suffering
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>>68921449
It's actually their apartment, but I understand your confusion.
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At least the 34 will be good
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>>68925821
You never asked for that. I think shes a great character, really cute as long as Land isn't tracing her, and has a charming personality. Sure she's immature and does dumb shit, but thats part of the charm for me. I even gave an example with a screencap that you still ignore.
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>>68925968

Peter got ineffectually exasperated and then Morlun attacked.
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>>68924907
Confirmed 28, in Asm 1 vol 3 it stated that he was bit by a spider 13 years ago, when he was 15.
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>Yfw you will never ever write for Spider-Man
>Yfw you will never fix Black Cat and make her entire takeover of the underworld a ruse to steal the most valuable possessions of every supervillain and mob boss in New York City
>Yfw you will never reveal that Mary Jane has been a bitch to Peter all this time because Mephisto cast a curse on her to uncontrollably think hateful thoughts towards Peter whenever her love for him starts to resurface
>She will never accidentally discover this and learn that her black/hispanic-fluid boyfriend has been under Mephisto's control for months, deliberately keeping her away from Peter
>She will never take him to Dr. Strange and force him to lift the spell, then train as his apprentice so she can defend herself from Mephisto and learn what terrible secret he's trying to keep her from discovering (specifically, OMD)
>Yfw you will never write a Mary Jane: Sorceress Supreme ongoing
>Yfw you will never fix Silk by making her into a full-on spaghetti dropping, emotionally stunted person who has no idea how to interact with other people.
>To help her learn, Peter will never send her to hang out with Kaine and Aracely for a while.
>Kaine will never express his undying hatred towards Peter for saddling him with this burden.
>Yfw you will never get to write that Sinster Sixty-Six storyline with Peter in his Last Stand uniform going up against every last one of his rogues in the battle of the century for the fate of New York, with his only allies being Kaine, Anya, MJ, Aracely, Silk, and the new Doctor Octopus who is secretly Anna Maria
>Yfw Peter will never meet his grandson, Harry Parker, the new Scarlet Spider and leader of the new Fantastic Four, and learn that someday all of his hard work and struggling really will pay off.
>We will just get more Slott forever.

It feels... it feels really bad, man.
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>>68926228

Eh, so I wasn't too far off. Thanks for the info.
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>>68926336
You lost me at Mephisto
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>>68923333
He doesn't say Silk did that, He's saying Slott only wrote that to make Silk the only choice.

Waifufaggots really are the worst.
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>>68922756
>Anna a really wonderful character.
Waifufags everyone. Every character with vagina is now considered wonderful as long as they like them, characterizaton and depth be damned.
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>>68926064
>Charming personality.

You're into Know-it-all bitches that get away with anything because she's the favourite?

Faggot.
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>>68923414
Thank you blessed anon.
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>>68926485
If you're reading comics for any of those reasons, you're doing it wrong and probably retarded. Start reading books.

Comics are about mindless fun and getting attached to characters for the ride with pictures!
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>>68926485
Let's compare then.

Anna
>Supportive
>Smart
>People person.

Silk.
>Makes constant stupid mistakes, never get shit on for it.
>Not supportive, told Pete to leave New York because she's better than him (according to her)
>A cunt to everyone.
>A slut.
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>>68926552
Silk is a virgim
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>>68926512
I know right, because of this bitch cyborg, assassin and old man Spider are dead.
>>68926485
Shhhhii Nobody loves your waifu, feel free to fuck of to /r9k/ and cry about "norimies" having a shit taste.
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>>68926545
>that's what Slott thinks
No wonder your run is such shit, Dan. You took out all that was great about Spider-Man and replaced it with "mindless fun"
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>>68926569
Really? She's been trying to get into Peter and Kain's pants since her first appearance.

You can not convince me that she didn't fuck Ezekiel.
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>>68926570
>implying I have a waifu
Sorry, unlike you cunts I'm not a desperate pathetic nerd.
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>>68925645

>>68881657
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>>68918913
Fuck off and die, Slott
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>>68919418
It's like you haven't read a Spider-Man comic lately. Her entire character is shit tier Mary Sue
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>>68919459
You forgot nuclear radiation proof webs as well. That dissolve street clothes on demand. Yet don't dissolve and leave her nude and never tear, yet she can apparently take them off when she wants to have sex with Peter
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>>68927182
Mary Sues are smart.

Silk is retarded as fuck.
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>>68924353

I get that it was only a small part of the big picture in Spiderverse. But meeting Gwen shouldve hit him like a frieght train. There's always been some implication that she's his trule love and the one he 'really wants' deep down. IE House of M, Earth X etc.
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>>68927335
Slott doesn't see it that way obviously.

He wants Peter to hook up with Spidey-sue, so he can make his mark on Spider-man Mythos.
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>>68927335
>Slott's Amazing Spider-Man
>emotional moments
Every time he goes for it (with the exception of Marla's death which was the single greatest moment in Slott's entire run) it feels cheap and artificial so it's better that way.
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>>68925105
then there's the whole speech about not giving up, and finding a weakness.
pretty sure spock is going to figure out a way to survive peter's return (i.e. clone a body for himself and download his mind into that - and later in the 616 universe comeback to anna)
but then we have the whole battleworld/secret war about to happen. so prob last night will be spock and his anna together.
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>>68927466
>Slott's greatest moment was a fridging
How horrifying.
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>>68923425
>All while swinging past other super heroes.

>Ben Grimm's cigar falls out of his mouth

>Johhny laughing his ass off while recording this on his phone

>Wolverine gives Pete a thumbs up from beyond for finally getting some lovin' from an Asian chick

>Hobgoblin/Kingsley sees this, begins to plan a seminar on super powered "No Means No" Campaign for profit.

>Brock sees tv footage of this, wonders if he should help Pete by "purifying her" realizes he's still Toxin, grabs a beer and wonders when he'll be Anti-Venom again
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>>68927335
>There's always been some implication that she's his trule love and the one he 'really wants' deep down. IE House of M, Earth X etc.
Also the one-shot during Infinity Gauntlet he hears her voice as he's going into the light before Thanos pulls him aside to gloat. (And of course, being Thanos, screws the pooch SO badly by reminding Spider-Man that people need him that he manages to undo the ONE hero death during the Gauntlet arc that he wasn't even responsible for.)
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>>68923500
>>Spidey gets desperate, goes to Chameleon for help
>>Chameleon poses as Spidey and tries to keep Silk "distracted"
>>ends up in the hospital with a broken penis and bruised testicles
>>meanwhile, Deadpool hears about the crazy spider-chick who wants Spidey's D
>>buys a cheap Spidey costume from a toy store and tries to put the moves on Silk

As much as I'm unhappy with Silk, this is a goldmine for hilarious art. Any Drawfriends in here?
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>>68927695
that's another thing that has bugged me. seeing gwen should've floored him. and instead we get a line of 'we'll talk later' and simple cheek touch.

not to mention peter has been useless. spock has been the tactician/leader. what has peter actually done? other than 'we don't kill'
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>>68925205
The thing you seem to be glossing over is that all of these "prep" and "training" explanations were never shown to us. They are all given by word of mouth.

It's not Marvel "trying something different". It's Marvel not trying at all. When you create a new character, there'sa certain stardard you have to adhere to, in order to properly flesh them out. And all this has to be SHOWN, not told after the fact. What we're getting with Silk right now is the equivalent of Cartman playing samurai ninja warriors with the other South Park kids and making up new powers on the spot just so he can win.

Silk makes a lot of mistakes. She gets people killed because of those mistakes. She doesn't learn from her mistakes. Her abilities are invented on the spot, in order to progress the plot, because her full skill were never established.
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>>68927859
Otto was apparently meant to be the hero of Spider-Verse until Slott was forced to make Peter the hero.
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>>68919394
Considering his relationship with his mom, he would be.

Though that is one sexy gnome
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>>68921518
wish she did more sets
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>>68924020

... X-23?
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>>68923734
Easy, let her have the symbiote.
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>>68925822
>>Anna Maria will never crawl onto you, do a strip tease and then ride you hard and put you away wet.

Thanks anon, I was just getting over the fact that Jemma - queen of the shortstacks, will never show up at my doorstep wearing just a trenchcoat and a smile...
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>>68929038
Well she is a stripper.
Probably doesn't do private gigs though.
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>>68927859
Why would seeing Gwen floor Peter any more than seeing Uncle Ben, Ben Reilly, his two children, and a whole slew of Peter Parkers?!

Peter knows the multiverse exists. He knows there are alternate versions out there. This isn't his Gwen, and never will be. Not to mention, Peter has dealt with Gwen Stacy clones who did have the memories and personality imprint of his Gwen, which should be far more creepy and invasive.
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>>68929157
>Probably doesn't do private gigs though.

Aww..well...back to drinking!
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>>68929157
what?
time to find out where she strips
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>>68930219
69C71AF on motherless is the only evidence I've seen.
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>>68921437

You know, she a chemist cook.

She could roofie him *really* easily.
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>>68921502

Stop teasing me with false hope, Anonymous.
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>>68921695

I 100% agree with this sentiment.

I'm just peeved that I *know* they'll draw the wrong conclusion from its inevitable failure.
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>>68930956
You should have sent in fanmail then, at least I hope you did anon.

>When asked if Marvel readers might see more of Supaidaman in the future, Brevoort stated that the character could become a more permanent Marvel fixture if fans made it clear that they wanted more of him. "If there was the same sort of demand for it, you better believe it," he said. "I'd do a Supaidaman book in a red-hot minute."

Seriously this applies to every other Spider character you want to see more of, if it gets enough fanmail (like with Gwen) they're going to do something with it obviously.

[email protected]
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>>68930956
Or Aikman Spider-Man
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>>68921818

You wanna know why people liked Cass?
- cutie patootie broken bird I-can-rescue-her waifubait
- a tendency towards brooding, angsty, almost Noir-ish stories
- greater focus on visual storytelling than dialogue
- a storytelling and directional departure from cape comics in general

What does Silk have to set her apart?
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>>68921962

Realtalk? I'm skeptical, but will keep an open mind towards her solo series. Debuting under modern Slott is a disservice under any character; she *could* actually be good in the hands of a better writer.
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>>68931084
>- cutie patootie broken bird I-can-rescue-her waifubait

The only people who think that are bitter Babs/Steph fans.
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>>68924849

I don't think Spider-Gwen and Peter ever dated. In her issue she brooded there are thing's she'll "never get to tell him".
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>>68932256
I think it's more like Gwen was totally going to ask Pete out, but then Spider-Shit went down and she never got to what with learning how to do stuff, then when she knew how things would work, Pete when all Lizard.
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>>68925201
>Does otto actually love Anne?

I think that's the idea, yes. If I remember correctly, when surrendering Peter's body back to him, he describes his relationship with Anna Maria as the only good thing he did during Superior tenure.
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>>68925968

He tried to dodge the conversation. I think the implication was that he didn't like the idea, but couldn't come up with a good argument against it.
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>>68932426
You know what Spider-Verse really needs?
A good old fashioned Pissed Off Pete moment. You know the ones. When Spider-Man stops talking.
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>>68919189
>Forgetting that first girl was brunette
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>>68925970

Peter's body is of the man that it's implied she was willing to marry. It's basically NTR.
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>>68931037

I actually sent this yesterday.

Dear Spidey Office,

I don't usually read Spider-Man, but I'm making an exception for Spider-Verse. It's not so much Peter Parker I'm interested in, but all the new Spiders! Spider-Verse gave you the opportunity to put new spins on a classic idea, and you didn't disappoint.

Are any of the new spiders besides Spider-Gwen and Silk getting an ongoing? Some of these new spiders have serious potential; SP//dr, in particular, was my favourite single issue of 2014, if not longer. It makes me sad to think they'll be forgotten after the event ends.

Field-testing new characters in this sort of event was a stroke of genius. You should use it more often!

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXXX
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>>68931058

Actually, I'd like to see more of Aikman too, but his creator considers him to have died at the end of his story. It feels like it'd be disrespectful to bring him back.

>>68931651

I fucken love Cass for the last three reasons, but I'm not blind enough to think that none of her fans are in it for the first reason.
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>>68927859
>what has peter actually done?

he's the one that sent Jess off to Loomworld for recon and the one that had the idea of giving spider-noir a cloaking device so he can recover in his home dimension.

that said iirc that bit with noir was said via their communicators and Jennix had those tapped the whole time, so its safe to say that spider noir could be dead by now.
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>>68931058
>>68932678

I never saw the point of them revealing him. I mean, why show that particular verse if you're gonna end it with Morlun killing him anyway?
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>>68918913
>>68921767
You're both wrong.
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>>68933472
shame that Slott turned her into current Catwoman, who turned into female Kingpin
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>>68924353
She's way to young sadly, buuut if the Battleworld retcon has anything to say about it.
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>>68933472
Fuck Mary Jane marrying Peter. We need the retcon to have it so that Felicia did.
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>>68919739
Midgets are my fetish. And rare as fuck for some reason.
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>>68933459
What if all Jap spiders came to his rescue or something?

Anyway, sending fanmail helps in these open ended cases and I'm sure Dustin Weaver would be up for it if asked, the only reason he probably did that ending was to either prevent Slott from getting to Aikman and that he knows the vampires are OP bullshit.

This leaves a tiny window of opportunity and it would be a massive shame if they left this universe untouched.
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>>68933560
if you aren't following incase, start. He's doing a hobbit porn comic so all midget girls with pointy ears, all the time. They don't have spider panties on. or panties.And unlike most of his stuff, it's entirely devoid so far of girls with peni!

buttsmithy.com/?comic=fgsfds
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>>68933710
I never knew I had a halfling fetish until I read this comic.

'course I didn't know I had an alien goatgirl fetish until I read his other comic.
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>>68933710
I was one of the people nagging him to draw shortstacks in the first place. Glad he found something he likes that I also like.
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>>68933726
We all have that fetish now.
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>>68933745
>Anna will never be turned into a sexy alien goat girl halfling and seduce Peter.

Why even have Spider powers?
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>>68932639
Every little bit helps! I sent some for Aikman and another for SP//dr
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>>68918913
I like how Marconi isn't actually drawn like a midget, just a loli.
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>>68926336
>Thinking Marvel will get rid of their number one money maker.
>Blaming Marvel for not getting rid of the character who pays the bills around there.
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>>68934200
>loli
>big dick sucking lips
>stubby fingers
>noticeable tits
I want to live where you live and do illegal things with the lolis that live near you
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>>68926336
Brand New Day sucked and all, and MJ and Peter was cool while it lasted, but can't we focus on Peter marrying someone else? The stories with MJ and Peter being married have all been done, no reason to force the writers to write something they don't think they can.
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>>68919739

>instantly was able to tell who drew this

whats happening to me
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>>68934296
A lot of depictions have her drawn as either a lithe loli or a miniature woman with none of stubby attributes. Either way she isn't drawn as a midget.
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>>68934389
Her fingers are stubby in that page, so either way, saying she is drawn as a loli and not a midget is bullshit.
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>>68934296
oppai loli
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>>68934467
literally all you have to go on its stubby fingers
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>>68934977
And? Stubby fingers, short, but adult physical features otherwise. Seems like your typical midget.
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>>68934319
I never said I'd get her and Peter back together. At least, not in any short term sense. I just want there to be a reason that Mary Jane's been such an inexplicable cunt to Peter under Slott's pen, since it goes against everything we knew about her character. Plus I've always kinda wanted to see MJ try the superhero shtick and I think magic would be a good route to take for that.
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>>68918913
wow this looks shitty.

What the fuck happened to Slott? Somebody please save Spider-Man.
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>>68935041
I don't agree with the other anon that Anna Maria is a loli, but I can hardly say that she's drawn as a midget either. She's just drawn as a smaller regular person than an actual midget. There's always a key thing that distinguishes midgets, and that's the proportion of their body parts. Their torsos for the most part tend to be bigger in relation to the rest of them.
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>>68935434
>Their torsos for the most part tend to be bigger in relation to the rest of them.
This is the opposite of true. They have small torsos compared to the size of their heads and whatnot.
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>>68935536
it's all a question regarding proportionate versus disproportionate dwarfism.
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>>68927862
I can agree with thia
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>>68919624
Benjy is a better character overall.
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>>68938618
Oops wrong one
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>>68938631
That's the ol' Parker gumption.
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>>68927895
how. how could slott have made superior last any longer. it was already stretched thin by issue 30.
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>>68933745
I don't have a midget fetish.

I have a loli fetish. Midgets are just oppai lolis. And I hate oppai lolis.
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>>68918913
Is that Jade from Jackie Chan Adventures?
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I'm really hoping Spider-verse ends with Otto being able to go off and continue being the Superior Spider-Man in another dimension, and take Anna with him. I-it could happen, right?
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>>68939774
I can only assume one or two of the story arcs we got were made to replace it.
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>>68923205
This was his first issue of the ASM relaunch, right? Jesus christ.
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>>68919421
This
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