It's late at night. All the kiddies are in bed. Can we have

>>68138797
low expectations, the antagonists were what they said they were, and based Rollins as a VA

>>68138797
I think season 4 was pretty great but I could see how it could turn people off because it's so different in tone than anything else in the Avatar franchise.

>but it was more than likely in season 3.
There are so many good fights in that season I don't even know where to begin. My favorite was Avatar State Korra vs. Zaheer though. It was cool to see Korra just fucking rip things apart.

> Award for worst hamfisted fan service cameo, also goes to Iroh. Old Iroh. In the fucking spirit world.
Fucking agreed. Iroh was always at his worst when he was just spouting inane "philosophy" that mostly sounded like it came off the back of a fucking fortune cookie, and that's ALL he does in LoK. They basically forgot about anything that made his character actually cool.

>>68138707
Honestly, I was not impressed. I felt like this season had two Kuviras: "maybe justifiable from a certain point of view" and "genocidal one-dimensional monster".

We got the former for maybe 1-3 episodes, then she turned into latter, then back into the former again just in time for her and Korra to have a good cry and talk it out.

The unfortunate part about Korra isn't just that it was bad but that it had so much potential to be good.

>>68138873
>Honestly, I was not impressed. I felt like this season had two Kuviras: "maybe justifiable from a certain point of view" and "genocidal one-dimensional monster".
Yeah I liked it but this is a legit problem. I think this could be solved by having an episode focused almost entirely on Kuvira and the things she had to do during the three years Korra was gone, but y'know. 13 episodes. (really less than that with the fucking clipshow).

>The unfortunate part about Korra isn't just that it was bad but that it had so much potential to be good.
It's pretty damn good if you accept it for what it is instead of lament it for what it could have been.

>>68138707
I am still infinitely sad we did not get to see pressure bending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM

Look at this fucking truck, the minute the air was pulled out it was imploded with air pressure. Imagine if airbenders could use that against the fire nation.

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>>68139012
>tfw the blood vessels in the Earth Queen's eyes were bursting due to vacuum

I missed the probable shitstorm from Friday and just finished the show tonight.

What was the general consensus? Does anybody have links to the better threads of the day?

Just trying to play catchup, anons.

>>36876410
I really enjoyed Bolin and Mako doing badass stuff, especially Bolin in the final battle showing how powerful of an earth Benet he is.

>>68139093
>What was the general consensus?
Most of /co/ liked the show and the ending judging by the polls, but shitposters are in full swing now and you'd never tell by the tone of all the threads.

>Does anybody have links to the better threads of the day?
This is the only good thread I've seen and it was from today. The finale stickies were all awful. >>68127434

>>68138904
Funny thing, after finishing season 4 I was just thinking that if Nickelodeon hadn't slashed their budget they could have used that one filler ep for more of Kuvira's back story.

>>68139045

Brutal.

>>68139045
No that's different he was creating a vacuum around her head, thus forcing the air to escape to compensate for the pressure change.

The truck imploded because the pressure on the inside was lesser than the outside. I would have loved to see an air bender be able to do that albeit a lesser extent to break bones and stuff.

>>68139134
Thanks anon. Gives me something to read before bed.

>>68139141
Honestly I think that filler ep would have instead been half developing the other characters (including Korrasami foreshadowing) and half extended Zaheer confrontation.

LoK needed like 16-18 episodes a season really. ATLA's seasons were too long but LoK's were too short.

>>68139165
No problem. The first three hundred or so posts in there are mostly great discussion.

>>68138707
Loved it, Kuvira's final attempts were uncharacteristic of her though, being so dignified during the entire season.

Last fight between them was amazing.

Honestly I hated the way the villains were created

1.Amon
Awesome potential, destroyed by shitty writing
2.Vaatu Unalaq
Should've been endgame villain
3.Zaheer
TLA standard
4.Kuvira
One dimensional character, only at the finale did the writers asspull a sob story out of nowhere to justify the shitting ending

>thank god that's over
>my compulsion not to read fanfics of series that haven't been finished is appeased
>Korrasami time
>only 2 days so far, drivel-driven shit on ff.net
>tfw I could probably ride this train to a couple of hundred reviews if I get on it right now

Should I do it?

>>68139225
>Loved it, Kuvira's final attempts were uncharacteristic of her though, being so dignified during the entire season.
Killing Baatar (as far as she knows he's dead all the way through the finale, no one told her he survived) didn't do her mental state any favors and she gets increasingly desperate through the whole fight.

>>68138835
>Iroh was always at his worst when he was just spouting inane "philosophy" that mostly sounded like it came off the back of a fucking fortune cookie
Nigga kill yourself. His chat with Toph in ATLA changed my life.

>>68139238
>2.Vaatu Unalaq
>Should've been endgame villain
Basing your writing on eternally escalating power levels instead of what is appropriate to the themes and narrative is dumb.

>One dimensional character, only at the finale did the writers asspull a sob story out of nowhere to justify the shitting ending
She was established as an orphan ages ago.

>>68139277
Are you a good writer?

If so, sure.

>>68139301
I hope you never go to a Chinese restaurant or else your peabrain might explode.

>>68139301
>Nigga kill yourself. His chat with Toph in ATLA changed my life.
That wasn't really philosophy. Just very generic life advice.

How old were you when you watched that the first time?

>>68139311
>Am I a good writer
Sure, yeah. I don't even know what it would even be about, though.

When the hell did Korra and Asami find the time to get into a relationship, anyway?

>>68139314
>>68139323
If you really hated Iroh's speeches in ATLA honestly what did you even enjoy about the series? The philosophy is a big part of the series, if it's retarded to you the series in general should seem pretty stupid.

>>68138707
I loved it.
Haters gonna hate; fedoras gonna tip.

>>68139277
Do it feggit

>>68139328
>When the hell did Korra and Asami find the time to get into a relationship, anyway?
Just now. This is the very start of the relationship.

You could write the relationship actually happening. I mean, the most that's really there in the ending of the show is Korra deciding to give it a chance. I doubt they were gonna jump right into a sapphic make-out session right when the camera cut away.

>>68139352
>philosophy
>big part of the series

Yeah, sure, I guess there was some of that, but I think the part about it being magic elemental kung fu was pretty big too.

>>68139352
>If you really hated Iroh's speeches in ATLA honestly what did you even enjoy about the series? The philosophy is a big part of the series,
The magic kungfu and the occasional rare moment of almost tackling bigger issues in a way that cartoons never did when I was a little kid.

I liked LoK more than ATLA though by a lot, yeah.

>>68139359
Is doing it just for attention a good reason, though?

>>68139370
>>68139386
Iroh's conversations with Zuko as well are a big part of why I like the series so much, Iroh is one of the best characters in the series. Are you both big Naruto fanboys too?

>I liked LoK more than ATLA though by a lot, yeah.

Oh, that explains so much.

>>68139369
Oh, for real? I thought they established being in lesbians with each other when Korra was doing rehab in Republic City before she left for the South?

>>68139387
Do you enjoy writing?

Actually I don't care. I just want to read it, if you're actually any good.

>>68139411
>Iroh's conversations with Zuko
I liked those. They were only inane philosophy 50% of the time. His conversation with him under Lake Lao Gai for example was actually good advice.

>Iroh is one of the best characters in the series.
Mostly just for his relationship with Zuko, a legitimately well written character.

>Are you both big Naruto fanboys too?
I'm not.

>Oh, that explains so much.
Deal with it.

>>68139428
I was thinking about doing it in >>68139412 setup, but only if it makes sense.

If there's any reason why that wouldn't happen in the timeline, I can always start off from the spirit portal, even if it's a shit starting point.

>>68138707

Yeah I liked it more than Sozins, not as grandiose but it didn't have the glaring contrivances of it.

>>68139238
i agree with this

>>68139286
Thanks, that actually fixes that last part for me.

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>>68139412
>I thought they established being in lesbians with each other when Korra was doing rehab in Republic City before she left for the South?
How I read that?

Asami wanted to be with Korra at that point, but Korra was too caught up in her own problems (understandably) to pick up on it or see Asami that way. I honestly don't think Korra realizes what's going on until near the end of the series.

Some anon actually made a screencap of the scene before the spirit portal and you can kind of pinpoint when Korra finally realizes "oh hey Asami likes me IN THAT WAY".

>>68139481
I can't find a screencap of it but Kuvira's angry, desperate face as the mech starts getting sabotaged is Kuvira's "God damn it I murdered my fiance for nothing" face.

Stop, don't fuck up the good posts with korrasami cancer you fags

>>68139482
Oh, okay.

So fucking ambiguous till the last second, just like every other avatar relationship.

Fine.

I can work with that.

>>68139509
These are actually good Korrasami posts though.

>>68139526
>So fucking ambiguous till the last second, just like every other avatar relationship.
It's because Bryke finally realized they're shit at writing overt romance and just rolled with it.

But yeah Asami is into Korra before Korra is into Asami. She even wanted to go to the South Pole with her during her recovery, Korra just wouldn't let her.

mediocre finale for a mediocre show. which is too bad, because it had so much more potential as a series.

>>68139652
You'll be a lot happier if you just accept it for what it is instead of imagining what it could be.

>>68139664
pretty impossible when the show is constantly reminding you that it could be a lot better

>>68139690
You're reminding yourself, Anon.

I watched this with no expectations not long ago beyond vaguely getting the idea that it wasn't as good as ATLA, and I loved the shit out of it. Hype is your enemy.

>>68139690
is it really the show, or you anon?

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Posted this in the last thread no one gave me a decent response pretty much stumped every one.

in every one of these scenes posted in the imgur link something major was happening causing a emotional reaction to consul one another in a platonic way.

Seriously ill give you an example of what a good gay bonding moment is like. Theres this one scene of the scooby doo series that aired on cartoonnetwork where velma in her spare time basically holds hands on a couch with another female character. Nothing of importance was happening in this scene and yet it came off as such a love move that even I consider it gay.

All those scenes you pointed out where moments where friends needed to consul one another because some hardship was going on and there is nothing gay about that.

Video related this is how you show two lesbians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8nkm1nEld0

Imgur I'm referring to.
>>http://imgur.com/a/r0obx

And I thought the ending was shit and bryke was just giving into every ones demands all at once.

>>68139741
Book 2 really does actively wave things in your face that could have made it better than it is.

Most of the show doesn't though.

>>68139735
I don't go into anything pre-hyped. It's a recipe for being disappointed. The sad fact is that LoK developed interesting worlds and plots and ultimately failed to deliver the majority of the time.

Not to mention that there were any number of better action shows over the past 5 years.

The finale was notable insofar as the fight scenes were especially well choreographed.

Kuvira's "motivation" as narrated by Korra came across as sentimental tripe. Korra basically pulled a reverse Darth Vadar, "you and me, we're actually really similar." Seeing how Kuvira's motivation and backstory up to this point was all but nonexitant, it all comes across as some sort of weird attempt to justify the actions of basically the Avatar equivalent of Hitler all so that Korra's arc of self-discovery and humility can come to a neat little conclusion.

The Asami Korra relationship at the finale came across as blatant pandering. I would have no problem had their infatuation been properly developed outside of one brief moment of sexual tension, but as it is it seemed a glib attempt at fan service. Its as if the writer's room realized at the last second that they had no one available from the core cast with which to conveniently pair off Korra at the conclusion, and decided to make her attracted to females simply out of narrative convenience.

This season was a rush job and it shows. Most attempts a drama and inner-turmoil came across a hamfisted, with the characters literally narrating aloud their inner stuggles because evidently there was neither the time nor mental resources available to develop their character arcs in an organic fashion.

So my takeaway from Avatar was that with Season Three as a notable exception (largely due to a shift of focus from poorly written interpersonal drama to nonstop action) poor writing crippled the show; the writing talent convinced themselves they were capable of writing material of a more mature variety than the original Avatar. They were wrong. The result was a soap opera populated by unlikeable turds interspersed with generally strong, well animated and satisfying action sequences.

>>68139747
>>http://imgur.com/a/r0obx
That imgur actually does a good job of illustrating how their interactions get gradually and subtly less platonic as time goes on.

>>68139482
You don't think that's it's kind of sad that their supposed love isn't obvious to you?

I find that poor story telling often times is the culprit but for some reason I see anons trying to stick up for this writing..

>>68139785
>You don't think that's it's kind of sad that their supposed love isn't obvious to you?
I caught the subtext ages ago I just didn't think they'd actually do anything with it.

It could have been better done though yeah.

>>68139781
Fair enough. I disagree with basically everything you said, but neither of us can help the way we feel. Opinions, man.

So what do Korra and Asami do in the spirit world?

I mean, what is there to visit? A lot of places are cool in a psychedelic trippy way, but wouldn't that get old really fast? Seriously, how long are they supposed to be in there?

Disregarding all the sex speculation. I mean, yeah, I guess that could happen in there too, but what else is there to do in the spirit world?

>>68139821
>but wouldn't that get old really fast?
No. No it wouldn't. The Spirit World in LoK is beautiful and trippy and awesome and I could hike in there forever.

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>>68139783
Not really. If you're talking about the whole blush scene that doesn't do a good job at all.

In the last thread I've talked about how women tend to complement one another and how in many stories friends will blush (even men) when complimented by a friend. But please tell me how you some how see a escalation especially when there was zero notable flirting.

>inb4 grasping for straws

>>68139803
>it could have been better done
So you're implying that they're in a relationship after words?

Even though it hasn't been confirmed and your only examples are of platonic social gestures?

>>68139783

Not really. You could make a similar infograph with"implied sexual tension" between Asami and Bolin. The way Asami is drawn she basically has constant bedroom eyes. This is a clear example of 20/20 hindsight. The relationship was hardly planned, Asami was originally designed to be an antagonist for christ's sake.

>>68138707
>It's late at night
>it's actually the middle of the day and everyone is a chill eurobro instead of some retard americunt

OP here. I deliberately asked that you guys not do this. I mean talk about Korrasami if you must but don't do this "IT WAS CLEARLY THERE FROM DAY 1" vs "IT WAS AN ASSPULL AT THE VERY END OF THE SERIES" crap.

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>>68139856
>Responded to him with a implying version of the same pic he had.

>>68139870
>>it's actually the middle of the day and everyone is a chill eurobro instead of some retard americunt
Speaking as an American I actually have to say I think this is what is happening and it's embarrassing how much basically every board on 4chan improves when most of my countrymen are asleep.

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>>68139861
>implying it wasn't Varrick and Bolin that were eye-banging

I felt like they wasted so much time with the Wu scene. We get it. He's a changed person. He doesn't need to spend ~4 minutes singing to show off he can control the badger moles.

>>68139881
>but don't do this "IT WAS CLEARLY THERE FROM DAY 1" vs "IT WAS AN ASSPULL AT THE VERY END OF THE SERIES" crap.
this

Everything that ever could be said about this argument has already been said thousands of times over the last few days. You see it or you don't. End of story.

>>68139906
Bryke are not good writers. Story at 11.

>>68139906
>He doesn't need to spend ~4 minutes singing to show off he can control the badger moles.
Tonal Whiplash-courtesy of Bryke since 2005

>>68139821
yeah, because it's so much more fun to hang out in the city than in fucking endless world of spirits.

Besides, I know it'll sound cheesy but still, there'are so many things to do for those who in real love besides having sex. When I think about their journey something like the journey of Leela and Fry from episode when time stops comes to my mind

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>>68139861
This I don't think many people in this thread can fully grasp what a relationship is like.

In a series that's good you're not supposed to be left filling in the blanks with huge assumptions, theres supposed to be clues like flirting etc. I've said it before but damn guess ill have to say it again, nothing in those images could really pass as flirting.

And the only image that could pass as flirting was during a time when a character was just getting over a hurdle, showing you that she's ok now and happy to be with a friend whose stylish as fuck. You see how the body language can be interpenetrated as very neutral though? It's either shit writing or forced shipping and I doubt it's the later since they've got a team who has already worked on relationships in shows in the past.

>>68139950
>Besides, I know it'll sound cheesy but still, there'are so many things to do for those who in real love besides having sex.
You're saying this to people watching a franchise where a relationship culminates in kissing and then you're true loves forever.

>>68139238

Nigga, The Last Airbender had nothing like Zaheer.

>>68139962
>I've said it before but damn guess ill have to say it again, nothing in those images could really pass as flirting.

never underestimate the irrationality of shippers

>Can we have a Legend of Korra thread with actual discussion instead of constant threadshitting about Korrasami now?

I guess it was too much to ask.

>>68139976
>where a relationship culminates in kissing and then you're true loves forever.

Toph must have had the same rule as Julia Roberts' character in Pretty Woman: no kissing.

>>68140000

Nice quads.

>>68140022
Toph doesn't love. She conquers, pillages semen, and 9 months later a baby slides out.

>>68138707
Remember that time she threatened to kill a Judge in a courtroom? I thought that was pretty awesome.

>>68140000
>>68140033
quads confirm there will never be a decent LoK discussion on /co/

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>>68140000
>>68140022
>>68140033

>>68140049
>Remember that time she threatened to kill a Judge in a courtroom?
It was after he left the courtroom.

But yeah Book 1/2 Korra is very different from Book 3/4 Korra and that's cool and good.

>>68139781
>Not to mention that there were any number of better action shows over the past 5 years.
There's a suspicious lack of "Well, well, well..." on this board right now.

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>>68140000
>quads

>>68140000
Well Quads confirm.

Give it a year when we know a bit more about the development process, then we can judge with a bit more context. Right now it's just a bunch of back and forth over how shit it all was (and is).

>>68140049
What about that time she conspired to subvert the President's authority and commandeer the military?

>>68139781
>Not to mention that there were any number of better action shows over the past 5 years.
All the shows /co/ claims were better were either ones I saw and thought were not that great, or ones I haven't seen but were cancelled so early I'm afraid to even try, lest I get Fire Fly'd.

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>>68139782
>I would have no problem had their infatuation been properly developed outside of one brief moment of sexual tension
the finale scene was just another moment of development

>>68140070
oi, nah, I'm rewatching season 2 right now, he's leaving the room after just sentencing the southerners and korras dad to death and shes all "You take their lives and I'll take yours!", that face he pulls is priceless.

Yeah, as hot headed as she was in the earlier season and the stupid decisions she makes it does make for some great scenes, cant wait till she threatens him again with Naga

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>>68140000
>people don't agree with my opinions
>it's shit posting!

Seriously take off your goggles and see the truth, bryke is a hack who ended up being pressured into shipping for us.

I for one wanted to see these two get together but at the same time I realize the reality, it really was not meant to be. Every thing was completely platonic up until the end which was VERY forced, the hand holding gesture obviously showing love yes.. .But there was no sign of affection before this that wasn't just platonic which leads all of us to only assume bryke is a hack who caved in.

If it wasn't the case some one from the team would have came out and said something about the ending but I'm sure they'll just wait a few years until they can reap the benefits of being "that old progressive cartoon"...

>>68140087
>Give it a year when we know a bit more about the development process, then we can judge with a bit more context.
Nothing should matter whatsoever but what's on screen. I don't care what /co/ thinks. I don't care what tumblr thinks. I don't care what was happening behind the scenes in the studios (outside of amusing trivia like how Asami was originally an equalist spy). I care about what I saw on my screen.

>>68140088
Remember when she attacked a council member in his office to try and force him to release three people arrested as criminals?

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Is there any way Nick/Viacom/Paramount would sell the rights to the Avatar franchise to another network? Cartoon Network for example?

>>68140088
i vaguely remember now that you mention, i plan on watching the entire season tonight, have only seen it once, itll be good to have a refresher

>>68140124
>oi, nah, I'm rewatching season 2 right now, he's leaving the room after just sentencing the southerners and korras dad to death and shes all "You take their lives and I'll take yours!", that face he pulls is priceless.
Oh right I forgot about that.

>>68140130
>>68140140
How about the attempted war profiteering?

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>>68140138
>wanting another season

>>68140129
I never stated my opinion.

Do you really think this discussion is at all interesting? It's just

>Pro Korrasami people: It's there
>Anti Korrasmi people: No it's not.
>Pro: Yes it is
>Anti: No it's not

Over and over and over. You people have no common ground to even debate each other. No ideas are bandied forth. Nothing is communicated. It's just two big groups of children stomping their feet and crying "YES" and "NO" over and over and it's drowning out every other possible piece of discussion.

>>68140138
Why would it be any better off at Cartoon Network? They've buried as many shows as Nick has.

>>68140099
>All the shows /co/ claims were better were either ones I saw and thought were not that great, or ones I haven't seen but were cancelled so early I'm afraid to even try, lest I get Fire Fly'd.

In some ways it's best for a show to go out on top, rather than continuing until it gets stale. Or just puttering along in mediocrity like LoK.

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>>68139747
what's with this uniform thing Asami wears?

>>68140040
>tfw no toph gf to pegg you

I wouldn't be on here right now, I'd be getting fucked.

>>68140087
With social media you'd figure they'd just come out and say it, would be much better but I still feel like they're not going to say any thing for a long time.

Can we even considered their plausible relationship canon?

>>68140150
>How about the attempted war profiteering?
That was Varrick, not Korra.

I don't think Korra even gets payed besides a White Lotus stipend. The Avatar ought to start charging for this shit.

>>68140153
>I didn't enjoy it, so no one else did
Stay mad. While it wasn't as grand as TLA I'd enjoy going back to the Avatar-verse in about 3-5 years.

>>68140171
She and Asami collaborated with Varrick on that. They are just as guilty.

>>68140159
LoK got better as it aired though. Can you imagine if it had ended at Season 2?

And some of these shows were cut REALLY short. I don't want to get emotionally invested in something and have to give it up after a single season.

>>68140167
I imagine it was a desperate attempt to get attention. Not something you want to brag about really, it's more powerful if it's ambiguous.

>>68140130
>I only care about whats one screen
Fair enough, but that's to open to interpretation for a definitive 'answer'. It's still terrible writing, but it's very grey.

>>68140181
But Korra wouldn't have made any money. At most she's an accessory.

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>>68140099
>Fire Fly'd.
it still hurts

anyways you should still watch tron uprising

>>68139962
>nothing in those images could really pass as flirting.
Well they retroactively turned it into that, I guess.
Yeah, it's poor writing, but it could've been far worse.

I don't even mind it all that much. At least the then friendship now lesbian subtext between Korra and Asami gave Asami something to do after ages of her just vaguely being there. At least this can kind of pass off as some kind of conclusion for that character who had relatively little going on for her.

If anything I found it interesting how you could exactly tell the point at which Bryke started reading and listening to advice on the internet :"Korra is too boneheaded"
"Asami has nothing to do"
"There should be more Team Avatar friendship" "Korra and Asami have personalities that may work together"
I think even they noticed what kind of bullshit Season 2 was.

>>68140190
>Fair enough, but that's to open to interpretation for a definitive 'answer'.
It's open to interpretation but /co/ wouldn't be nearly this mad if it wasn't pretty clear what the implication was.

Although if straw polls are anything to go by, most /co/ was ok with it actually. The abject rage is from like 25% of posters.

>>68139747
Tend why don't you perceive the ending as them just being friends who have been through some tough shit?

The ending is left open to interpretation, why do you chose to interpret it in the way that you consider does not make sense.

If you think the show have established them as nothing but friends, then you should see the ending as them as being friends.

instead you decided to go with an interpretation that, according to you does not make sense. Why?

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Goddammit bryke.

>>68140187
the final two seasons on average were better than the first two, but only because season 2 was god-awful and season 3 was actually pretty good. season 4 was right back to being underwhelming.

>>68140198
>anyways you should still watch tron uprising
No. I'm never letting that happen to me again. It is NOT better to have loved and lost.

>>68140163
first wave lesbian feminist, the shoulder pads show girls can be leaders too!

but seriously, isnt it her driving gear? cbf verifying for myself

>>68140220
This is wanting me to log in to tumblr and I don't have an account. What am I supposed to be seeing here?

>>68140221
I didn't think LoK was ever godawful. Season 2 was by far the weakest season though, yeah.

>>68140156
>can't make a good point so tries to run a informal fallacy on me

Listen if you didn't catch what the discussion was about it's about writing and how poorly they've illustrated the possible romance between two characters. Not only that but the discussion could turn into one about how to properly FLIRT which some of you don't seem to be able to do, I figured I'd be helping a lot of you. It is all very interesting since this conversation can help us all in more than one way BUT because it doesn't suit you (you obviously have a positive opinion on the plausible relationship why else would you call me out) it's "stupid"..

TL;DR: this is not a battle of opinions it's a info war

we're on /co/ for christ sakes more people should be aware of when they've been handed a shitty story.

>>68140221
I'm rewatching season 2 right now and its pretty good, then again its the first couple of eps were it the civil war deal rather than spirit bullshit. the animation is hard to watch at times but

>>68140208
>straw polls
They are completely unreliable. Shit a bot could just wreck any result.

>>68140244
>TL;DR: this is not a battle of opinions it's a info war
jesus christ

I've watched the first two seasons and kind of lost all investment. I know season 3 and 4 are better but... I don't know if I want to bother getting invested in the characters again. Is it worth it, /co/?

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>>68140220
>>68140237

>>68140258
What the fuck else are we supposed to rely on?

>>68140269
If you outright hated the first two seasons, probably not.

>>68140269
3 is. 4 probably isn't.

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>>68140254
>then again its the first couple of eps

just wait

>>68140244
>Not only that but the discussion could turn into one about how to properly FLIRT which some of you don't seem to be able to do, I figured I'd be helping a lot of you.
Yes Anon. Tell me how you flirt. Teach me how to pick up women like you.

>>68140283
There's no reason to watch 3 if you're not gonna watch 4. Unless you just get off on the idea of Korra being crippled for life and emotionally traumatized.

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>>68140276
>Congratulations, Korra

>>68140208
the average rating from /co/ came out to about 6/10, about right for a mediocre show.

>>68140278
I didn't hate them per-say. I liked parts and was interested in bits but the way the characters are written, the villains are done and the like, from a writing perspective it's just trash. Although I'm still super salty about the dropped ball when it came to Amon and the Equalists

>>68140300
Yes but 3 at least ends with quality. 4 just goes downhill from episode 6

>>68140220
pffft. what the fuck does he know. they're just feeling each others temperatures via foreheads.
>anon clearly doesn't have sisters.

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>>68140286
why didn't korra use her giant blue powers against the Colossus

>>68140314
>the average rating from /co/ came out to about 6/10, about right for a mediocre show.
No it didn't. 6/10 was the second most common rating but 7/10, 8/10, and 9/10 all had a ton more votes than anything below 6/10.

The /co/ consensus, if accurately judged by that poll (a fairly big if) was that it was above average to good.

>>68139782
I would've liked it if Korra actually had looked into Kuvira's backstory all of her own accord, maybe back at Zao Fu(????). She dismisses it at the time, but by the time the finale rolls around she actually understands.
That would've maybe taken 10 minutes...
Oh well.
Still I don't hate this either. The theme of this season was Korra reflecting on her enemies and trying to grow beyond her own flaws. Even if her particular insight into Kuvira comes out of nowhere, it still fits thematically.

>>68140308
what was a more out of place ending, "congratulations Shinji" or "suddenly lesbians"?

>>68140315
>I didn't hate them per-say. I liked parts and was interested in bits but the way the characters are written, the villains are done and the like, from a writing perspective it's just trash.
Well those are both much better in the last two seasons so give it a shot.

>>68140331
Harmonic Convergence only.

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>>68140276
>confirmed that korrasami is canon
>confirmed that bryke are shit writers
good now we can all stop talking about this.

>>68140286
yeah, half way through writing I was enjoying it I remembered... fuck it, still gonna watch tho, maybe itll be a little better marathoned than week to week.

>>68140333
someone ran the numbers and it was an average of ~6.2. I can't argue with maths.

>>68140344
I didn't dislike either one, but Suddenly Lesbians was more out of place than "Congratulations, Shinji".

God the Eva original finale was a clusterfuck though.

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>>68140355
>good now we can all stop talking about this.
Oh you poor naive soul

This is all that will be in Korra discussions for the next three months at least.

>>68140366
Good job screencapping your own post from this very thread.

>>68140308
oh someone please edit this or a drawfag make a version with korra and other avatar characters

>>68140359
Someone link it again I want to double check this.

I haven't seen the poll in awhile so it's possible there was a big shift in it over the last day or so.

>>68140190
>I imagine it was a desperate attempt to get attention.
You really think that's a decent excuse?

Leaving it ambiguous gives every one what they wants and leads us to conclude things that shouldn't be left open ended especially since like I've said before, certain things just weren't as obvious as some people here want you to believe.

>Not something you want to brag about really, it's more powerful if it's ambiguous.
"A strong female MC is also a bisexual guys"

That's something they should definitely brag about if true.

How many female MCs do you know who are like that in a children's show or any cartoon shows for that matter? And no shipping doesn't count.

>>68140214
>The ending is left open to interpretation, why do you chose to interpret it in the way that you consider does not make sense.
Playing a bit of devils advocate here I guess, until something is said ill be fine with the either way it goes. I agree with you though but if it is true what people imply then I want them to spot the issues and talk about them instead of praising the body of work.

>>68140276
Smh.

>>68140254
I remember the first episode of season 2 being pretty good. Unalaq had some good points; the spiritual aspect of bending was lost in favor of crass commercialism and industrial etc.

>>68139881
You should've known better than to talk about a show with girls in it.

>>68139929
God that really had no business being in the middle of the fucking robot fight.

Is there a chance they will do a kickstarter to make another season or a new avatar, like how Wakfu did and if not, any ideas if they're going to make comics?

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>>68140344
Suddenly lesbians, shinji thing made since small budget couldn't do much of any thing show as getting ready to end and they just didn't give a fuck.

Suddenly lesbians is just pandering to tumblr, who I really can't stand now... Ruined a show that could have other wise been really decent.

Thanks bryke for all those platonic hints, the shippes sure saw it coming.

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>>68140414
Commercialism and industrialization are good things though.

>mfw

>>68140431
Yeah I'm about done with /co/. I only come here because none of my friends watched Korra and everywhere else to discuss it is just as bad in different ways.

>>68140441
There is no way this show could raise the required budget via kickstarter even if they had the legal right to do so.

>>68140129
>bryke is
It's completely insane the amounts of people who come here for discussion, clearly have read a lot of other talk about it and still adress Bryke as a single entity.

>>68139238
All the villains were good in the first half of the season and then held the evul villain ball by the end of their season. Except Zaheer whose character and goals were fairly consistent throughout, but that's only because he was an anarchy strawman from the beginning.

>>68140454
Bryke is a single entity just like Unalaq and Vaatu are a single entity.

>>68140385
comes out to ~7.1 now, probably a little bot stuffing in the last 24 hours

http://strawpoll.me/3223037/r

>>68138707
I was expecting some deaths. Jist a few. Mako dying to save the others. Korra killed in avatarstate or something.

>>68140466
Ah it went up, so it's bot stuffing. I see how it is.

Yeah I know, if it had gone the other way someone that loved the show would say the say thing.

>>68140466
Obviously a bot. There's more votes than /co/ frequenters who care enough to vote. And Korra is the type of show that breeds the autism required to rig this.

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>>68140441
>wanting more

Ill only chip in if they can stay away from nick but I doubt it, they probably own the writes to this show and wouldn't allow them to branch off and do their own thing.. Would be amazing if we could get more adult stories.

>>68140276
My waifu is a lesbian this is the 10th time to happen to me but worse this time around because she's 2D... Every time I say no more tomboys, I just keep coming back.

>>68140484
Generally people are more willing to put in effort for something they hate than something they like, though.

>tfw both sides bot and they cancel each other out

>>68140484
>>68140479

It's still not a great showing to reach 7.1 with bot stuffing though.

>>68140502
The botters were clever enough to aim lower to seem more realistic.

It's not a bot you faggots

>>68140315
>per-say
God, you fucking murricans.

Does anyone have the comic there Kuvira and Bataar jr. say that they love eachother, but in the next panel Kuvira's trying to hold in her laughter behind his back?

>>68140372
Nah I'm not that guy, I've been screencapping a lot of the posts here for posterity. Thought I'd share that one

>>68140403
>That's something they should definitely brag about if true.
Nick could still pull the plug on this, so they couldn't have made it too blatant. I think what they did and not confirming it is the max they could get away with

>you think that's an excuse?
More a reason then an excuse

Do people actually like Wu's dialogue when the scene is trying to be funny? I felt like Bryke was just trying to fill in their "humor" quota by having Wu say random shit for a good couple minutes that don't say anything new about his character.

It's the little things in ATLA like Sokka poking Zuko with a stick as revenge in episode 1 and Toph's dialogue that made it enjoyable.

>>68138707

It was a very poor series finale, lack luster and poorly executed and poorly resolved for both plot and character arcs. It was obviously rushed, and I can tell.

Moreover, I fail to understand how this book brought "balance" to anything. Republic city now lays in ashes, the earth kingdom is now balkanized without a central government, and the spirits, once again, proved ambivalent towards the United Republic's dilemma even when their homes in the spirit wilds were at stake, bringing into question Korra's decision to have the portals remain open.

Korra's personal arc was her simply overcoming her PTSD, and that was resolved late rising action, so the point is moot.

Most of the other characters had little to no development, and its hacknyeyed attempts at both quirky humor and emotion felt ham fisted and forced. Verisimilitude can be chucked right out the window when we've gone from model T's and lorries to goddamn spirit powered mecha suits.

And moreover, Kuvira was boring as an antagonist. Unlike some of the other antagonists who were actually well crafted, Kuvira's motivation and conflict with the protagonists simply stemmed out of deeply seated parental issues (which are barely touched upon) rather than anything of actual substance.

And don't get me started on the ending. No, I'm not upset that it used the implication of bisexualism to end the series. What I'm mad about is that it was nearly out of the blue, and it made no sense within the context of the series, all to appease what were essentially fetishists with their dicks clutched in their hands and tumblrite fan girls. I don't even understand why it was Asami rather than gang. Asami is more of a walking talking narrative device than an actual character, with no development or personality. What's more is that by virtue of shoehorning this in, it will shield the creators from any form of criticism through the implication of homophobia and consumer entitlement.

>>68140509
That's the same thing, for all intensive porpoises.

>>68140446
>Commercialism and industrialization are good things though.
From what we had seen of seasons 1 and that episode of 2, he was right. Man in the Avatarland was arrogant. Unalaq could have made a good villain and set up some Princess Mononoke conflict, but instead he went full "unleash unspeakable evil" for no reason.

I'm only on /co/ because all my friends loved the finale and I don't have the heart to tell them that they're wrong.

>>68140508

96 people rated it 10/10 best show ever.

>>68140522
>Moreover, I fail to understand how this book brought "balance" to anything.

Probably should have learned by now that the book titles mean fuck-all when it comes to what actually goes down.

>>68140521
90% of Bryke's humor falls utterly flat for me and it has ever since Book 1 of ATLA. I wish they'd stop trying to be funny. The occasional moments where they pull it off aren't worth the cringe I get most of the time.

>>68140130
>Asami was originally an equalist spy
They should've stuck with that. That would've spared her from uselessly bouncing around for four seasons.

>>68140545
you mean Meelo wasn't the funniest fucking thing of all time?

>>68140550
*three seasons

>>68140550
I think they should have given her airbending at the beginning of Book 3 instead of Bumi, personally.

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>>68138707
Am I the only one who found Korra's torture at the end of season 3 and her subsuquent physical and mental anguish throughout a good chunk of season 4 arousing?

Thats never happened to me before. Normally I'd feel sad when characters are broken and beaten down. But with Korra I just found it irresistibly sexy. Is there something wrong with me?

>>68140521

Bolin was the same for me, his put a sock in it line was so damn flat, then he had to explain the joke. Most of his gags were exactly the same.

They really should lessen the "comedy" unless they can nail it.

>>68139238

> 1.Amon. Awesome potential, destroyed by shitty writing

Amon was perfect. If you're one of the retards who think Amon's character was somehow ruined by the reveal then you still don't understand what the first season was about and why Amon's story perfectly resonated with Korra's.

Honestly, I don't know why you americans have such a raging hard-on for masked one-dimensional boogieman's.

> 2.Vaatu Unalaq. Should've been endgame villain

The bigger issue with Unalaq was his dry and dull personality and not the order in which he appeared in the series.

> 3.Zaheer. TLA standard

Is that an insult? TLA villains were horribly bad. TLA had one half-decent villain.

> 4.Kuvira. One dimensional character, only at the finale did the writers asspull a sob story out of nowhere to justify the shitting ending

I know you're trying to appear smart, anon, but don't use terms whose meaning you don't even understand.

>>68140569
God that was a wasted plotline. Didn't end up being the least bit relevant past the first half of the season.

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>>68140576
>Am I the only one who found Korra's torture at the end of season 3 and her subsuquent physical and mental anguish throughout a good chunk of season 4 arousing?
I strongly doubt it.

>Is there something wrong with me?
Arguably but you can't help it and I wouldn't call you evil for having a weird fetish.

>>68140585

>yuropoors being condescending again

why am I not suprised?

>>68140511
bumping request

>>68140593
>Didn't end up being the least bit relevant past the first half of the season.
It was actually how the main conflict was resolved though. And a big part of the stakes in the finale.

>>68140518
I don't know what else to say dude, while I'm happy it's now confirmed cannon I'm upset it was so forced...

I wish the other guy was right when he said it was left open ended, now I'm just left feeling sour.. Feel like I've been raped, I wanted it but not like this.

>>68140522

>Moreover, I fail to understand how this book brought "balance" to anything. Republic city now lays in ashes, the earth kingdom is now balkanized without a central government, and the spirits, once again, proved ambivalent towards the United Republic's dilemma even when their homes in the spirit wilds were at stake, bringing into question Korra's decision to have the portals remain open.

I guess it really is true. Korra really is the worst avatar ever.

>>68140605
There is nothing left but shitposting, Anon. I shitpost at you, you shitpost at me. It's all there is.

Faggot.

>>68140611
>Feel like I've been raped, I wanted it but not like this.
get your fucking priorities straight Anon. Jesus Fucking Christ.

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>>68140530
>unleash unspeakable evil

>>68140457
1. Amon
>starts with a good point about about the inherent inequality of benders vs non benders and the corrupt council feeds into this
>Korra says "nuh uh bending is totally the coolest thing" (actual quote)
>Amon becomes a generic terrorist and tries to take over the city through force

2. Unalaq
>starts off with good points about how huanity has gotten away from their spiritual side
>even shows flashbacks of the first avatar one with the spirits and other cool stuff validating the idea that spirits and humanity are no longer in balance
>jk I want to destroy the whole world

3. Zaheer
>anarchy is the only way to live with true freedom, a logical extension of the Air Nomad way of life
>decides to take out world leaders
>the Avatar is the longest institution of all and should be destroyed too

Kuvira
>wants to bring order and reunite her people after the chaos Zaheer caused
>takes matters into her own hands after seeing a perceived failure of the monarchy
>yolo lets blow up random buildings in Republic City with our new super weapon

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>>68140585
TLA standard referring to Azula you dumbcunt

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>>68140649
>>Korra says "nuh uh bending is totally the coolest thing" (actual quote)
...did you think this was supposed to be an actual argument in her favor?

I mean shortly before this she was eating fish out of a public pond and discovering the concept of a homeless person for the first time. That comment was to show how out of her element Korra was.

>>68140610
>It was actually how the main conflict was resolved though
It had nothing to do with taking down the Red Lotus except in very small ways.

> And a big part of the stakes in the finale.
Only in the sense that Mr Mime Kai showed up to do nothing important.

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>tfw Nick/Viacom will never sell the rights to the Avatar franchise
>tfw we will never have a 3rd series set in the Avatar universe

>>68140676
Zaheer is better than Azula though. Azula is ok but nothing more.

>>68140689
Group airbending is what brought down Zaheer and saved Korra.

>Only in the sense that Mr Mime Kai showed up to do nothing important.
I was referring to Zaheer holding the new Airbenders hostage.

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Anyone else is kinda sad that we won't get any other series in Avatar world? I know there are Dark Horse's comics but it doesn't feel the same.
I really hope that next Bryke project will have equally good worldbulding as Avatar had.

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>>68140611
> Feel like I've been raped
That might be a bit much dude.

But i'd have to agree in that I feel like shit. I never wanted this to be canon, I still don't. I have to now come to terms with this shit ending, and i'm not sure how. I hate that hollow feeling, fuck this.

>>68138707
Kuvira was the most poorly written shit ever. It was lower than Amon tier. This honestly completely ruined Book 4 for me. We could've had a decent lady Hitler, who was not a little bitch.

>>68140684
No. It was the writers telling the kids that Amon it totally wrong and this show is awesome because it has bending.

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>>68140598
Oh, okay then. I just thought it was strange that this kind of fetish would manifest from this show of all things. I don't even know what to call it or If I would like more of it or if my arousal was specifically tied to korra's torture itself. Its an terrible feeling when you don't understand exactly what path your dick is leading you down.

>>68140690

Its for the best, anon.

We can't trust Mike and Bryan not to pound what remains of the dead horse into glue.

>>68140690
>inb4 edgy faggots that live just to shit up Korra threads say "good"

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>>68140715
>No. It was the writers telling the kids that Amon it totally wrong and this show is awesome because it has bending.
I fucking give up.

I think the last scene would have been better if Mako and Bolin joined them and they all lept into the portal together.

>>68140649
Why the fuck can't Bryke resolve anything properly when they do such great beginnings for their villains? Was it time constraints? pressure from the network?

As you pointed out it was the same damn problem every season. Surely something must have happened.

>>68140269
I bailed during season 2 and came back for season 3 and 4. I think it was worth it. Still haven't watched the rest of season 2.

>>68140716
I would speculate that this aroused you more than other instances because you formed an emotional attachment to Korra's character.

I have similar sadistic fantasies and they ironically only get me off if I sympathize with the victim.

But you could be totally different from me.

>>68138707
I hate how Kuvira's mech was getting its shit pushed by a few benders. Why didn't the United Army just pile on all over it? I would be overwhelmed instantly.

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>>68140737
BUT ANON WHAT ABOUT MUH SHIP?

>>68140737
this

>>68140710

All they needed to do was not undermine her with the whole orphan schtick.

Just say how privileged she was and how the rest of the earth kingdom was a shock. The queen had her citizens under her boot and the rest of the world was content with the status quo.

>>68140744
I was happy with the endings of Book 3 and Book 4.

I'll never understand people that let the last minute an a half of Book 4's finale make or break the whole show.

>>68140744
Because they are idea guys who can't actually write.

>>68140759
>All they needed to do was not undermine her with the whole orphan schtick.
That was established pretty early on.

>>68140522

>What's more is that by virtue of shoehorning this in, it will shield the creators from any form of criticism through the implication of homophobia and consumer entitlement.

And this is what I take issue with. Everything you've said is right, but because of that 3 minutes, anyone who dares reproach it will be forced to check their privilege.

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>>68140636
I'm so unhappy, why was I born a man..

My first girl friend would have stayed with me if I were a woman, she never came out and told me she was gay I had to find out through mutual friends... I've taken my anger out on this thread and for that I sorry I got what I needed in the end I guess.

Ill never really be happy though. dammit.

>>68140783
Conversely, I think virtually everything he said is wrong, and I'm annoyed that no one's talking about all the cool things about this ending because Korrasami happened.

>>68140780

Exactly, and then they do the retcon at the end to say it's cause she was an orphan and nobody loved her.

Again they start well and then the resolution has to break things. Just leave as is, have her hauled off broken, crying for her country and her inability to believe anything korra or anyone else says considering their past treatment of the earth kingdom.

>>68140761
>I was happy with the endings of Book 3 and Book 4

talk-no-jutsu is not ok for the villian of the season. the last minute and a half of S4 is all that saved it, the resolution with Kuvira was bullshit.

>>68140809
>Exactly, and then they do the retcon at the end to say it's cause she was an orphan and nobody loved her.
You're agreeing with me by stating the exact opposite of what I said and it's weird.

It's not a retcon. Her being an orphan was something established about her character early in the season.

>>68140815
It was exactly the resolution that needed to happen.

I'd like ot say something about Korrasami however. I don't think the intention of the final scene was to show us that they were already committed in a romantic relationship. I think the whole point is that Korra and Asami found something new, like they found some sort of attraction to one another and they will try to experiment a bit with it, to see how it goes from that point on. Like saying ''hey, why not?'' Sadly Bryke didn't bother to develop this IN the story, like they did with Kataang, Kataang was a slow buildup where by the finale they sealed their romantic commitment to one another. Korrasami is, let's compare it to, Kataang during book 2. The attraction is there, but nothing yet has been confirmed. That is how I see it.

So we don't get to see anything of the fire nation except its navy and firelord?

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>>68140721
It's just sad to see it go, you know? Despite the low points of this series I honestly thoroughly enjoyed it from beginning to end. Part of me still hopes Nick either sells the rights to another network that will give Bryke and a team of writers some creative freedom or they bring it back but don't shaft the show with shitty timeslots. On the other hand, maybe it's best just to stop beating the dead horse. As someone who watched this series from the ATLA pilot to the LoK finale, it just feels a bit surreal is all.

>>68140832
I like it precisely because of what you said. I don't see that as a detriment to it.

The ending is Korra and Asami basically saying "Why not, let's give it a shot."

>>68140823
The orphan thing could've done with showing how Kuvira was affected by it early on, and not just exposition. A short montage or something at the start of Book 4 would've boosted the value of the resolution to Kuvira better imo.

>>68140823
>It was exactly the resolution that needed to happen.
She conquered and entire country, send god know how many people to concentration camps, built a super weapon, killed go know how many people in republic city and tried to kill the love of her life and the people that raised her without a second of hesitation.

all resolved with one fucking conversation.

>>68140802

Beyond your average spectacle and fantastic conflict with a giant robot that shoots hyperdestructive spirit lasers and decent animation, what exactly was cool about it?

You see this shit in mecha cartoons all the time, nothing about it was truly extraordinary.

>>68140847
Yes, it would. We needed an episode focusing on Kuvira.

The orphan thing is not a retcon though, is all I'm saying.

>>68140838
Yes, they all didn't do shit.

>>68140838
Probably wanted to get away from them after the original series centered around them.

>>68140823
>It's not a retcon. Her being an orphan was something established about her character early in the season.

Indeed, but it then becomes the defining character trait that drove her to everything. I would rather she was left as a strong character with a strong conviction for what she was doing, instead of being turned into an emotional wreck filled with pity and regret.

I get that it gives Korra a counterpoint to show her growth, but they could have still had her try to talk reason into Kuvira only resign herself to pity when it doesn't work.

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>>68140840
>stuck on the Bryke ride
Yeh shit sucks. Still, at least there's the comics

>>68140832
Nicely put.

>>68140854
Korra had thoroughly beaten her even before they talked.

>>68140855
Korra's character coming full circle is the main thing. Plus it was an Avatar finale where the Avatar won without Deus ex Machina. That was cool.

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>>68140522
>Moreover, I fail to understand how this book brought "balance" to anything. Republic city now lays in ashes, the earth kingdom is now balkanized without a central government, and the spirits, once again, proved ambivalent towards the United Republic's dilemma even when their homes in the spirit wilds were at stake, bringing into question Korra's decision to have the portals remain open.

>>68140153
Imagine if Bryke and Nick sell the rights to CN, and CN gets new people to take over and creates a prequel that never ever ever has to reference or acknowledge any of the shit that was made canon in TLOK

Adult Swim TV14-MA rated

>>68140840
Yeah man it's sad. Feels like it was just yesterday that the show was being rumored about and that animatic of Korea doing a bunch of kicks was released. I hate post-show/movie depression.

>>68140860
They were the bad guys in ATLA, but we still got to see every other nation more or less equally. Seems pretty stupid to have a sequel then not even show a glimpse of what the previous bad guy's nation looks like now.

>>68140872
>Korra had thoroughly beaten her even before they talked.
So a good pummeling and a talk-no-jutsu was all it took to completely turn around her way of thinking despite everything she'd done upto this point.

and you're really ok with that? maybe all hitler needed was a good punch and a stern talking to.

>>68140878
>adult swim
>budget
>CN
>keeping action cartoons not name Ben10 around for more than a season or 2
Face it. We only held on to Korra despite the flaws because it was the only show in town at this point.

>>68140888
>Korea

lolautocorrect
Korra

>>68140690
What would the next show even be? Avatar Beyond?

>>68140902
>all it took to completely turn around her way of thinking despite everything she'd done upto this point.
I never got the impression that she'd COMPLETELY turned around her way of thinking.

>>68140902
Hitler did nothing wrong though.

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Why is everyone trying to pretend the ending was supposed to be Korra and Asami ending up together?

>>68140707
>next Bryke project
Action cartoons are dead. Even smug Korra couldn't survive anymore.

>>68140905
Cyberpunk avatar would be pretty cool.

>>68140902
>maybe all hitler needed was a good punch and a stern talking to.
Couldn't have hurt.

>>68140872

>Korra's character coming full circle is the main thing.

What, that she finally learned how to empathize with the antagonist?

>Plus it was an Avatar finale where the Avatar won without Deus ex Machina.

She talked out of it (if not outright redeeming her) after beating her ass by making the comparison that "LOL WE'RE NOT SO DIFFERENT". That seems awfully anticlimactic.

>>68140925
>What, that she finally learned how to empathize with the antagonist?
That's part of it, yeah.

Honestly though I don't even feel like going into it because I'm gonna get fifteen six paragraph long essays on how I'm wrong, a faggot, and everything about Korra is completely irredeemable. I'm done. You've done it, /co/. I just don't care about talking about this series anymore. You're far more invested in hating it than I am in defending it. I surrender.

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>>68140917
There are two sides to this argument; those who think it's undeniably canon and those who still deny it with fervor. I think it's more in the middle of it, it's neither of the two. It ended where it could possibly develop into something more, or they will leave it at that and remain friends. Though I think Bryke's intention was to show us that they will end up together sometime in the future, however they decided to leave it up to our imaginations.

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>>68140919
Avatar truly was the last action cartoon. The next closest thing thing I can think of is TMNT but that's fucking pushing it. The end of an era really.

>>68140934

Mike and Bryan pls. Just admit your ending was bad, and we can go on with it.

>>68140925
>What, that she finally learned how to empathize with the antagonist?
You mean the talk she had in the last 5 minutes with Kuvira with nothing building up to that?

>>68140917

They kind of did. Bryke did that on purpose. Whether you like it or not that shit is canon.

>>68140755
Korra and Asami could still have been hand-in-hand while the whole krew jumped in the portal and it would have made everyone happy.

Instead Korra and Asami come off as selfish snobs. Especially kallousKorra, after the whole letter debacle. But hey, at least she came back to pick up one discarded piece of trash last minute, this one being labeled 'Asami'. I always thought the supposed 'deep bonds' of Team Avatar were weakly supported. The finale confirms it, 'Team Avatar' was a joke to begin with.

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>>68140943
I see, But they are clearly still friends.

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>>68140952
Yeah it was awful. I imagined enjoying this shit show. It was all in my head.

Legend of Korra had no good moments. Legend of Korra had no good moments. Legend of Korra had no good moments.

Some problems and questions that I've had over the course of this series. Some are nitpicks, others are legitimate flaws
>What was the point of Bolin? It seemed like the writers tried to make him the next sokka, but he wasn't as funny or strategic as him. It seemed like every season they had to find something new for him to do.
>What happened to all the equalists after amon was killed?
>Korra herself was stubborn, awful, and retarded
>What was up with eska and desna? They might as well have been mook 1 and mook 2 because after the second season they barely show up
>General Iroh, while being nice fanservice, was just that. I wish they had done more with him
>What happened with the jinora and kai subplot? They were building it up through season 3 and the beginning of season 4 but then stopped featuring them. I don't think Kai even talks for the last half of season 4
>What was up with bumi and Kya in the last season? They were a big part of seasons 2 and 3, but slowly stopped showing up by the last season. They might've mentioned it but were the hell was kya in the final battle in republic city.
>Did they ever mention what happened to Sokka? Is he still alive or is he dead?
>Why was korra so goddamn retarded?
>Did anybody else feel the varrick proposal was a little forced? I think it would've been a little better to give him and jhu li a little more interaction when she came back
>DARK AVATAR
>MUH EVA. A little foreshadowing would have been nice
>Making kuvira sympathetic at the last moment was stupid. She says that she didn't want her nation to be crumble or some shit, but she was willing to kill her fiance and many others in the city to get her way.
>Opal and Bolin got back together, thats great I guess. Except for the fact that Opal is still a manipulative bitch
>Why didn't bolin lavabend both feet of the EVA? Or make the lava deeper than a foot? Or do it when the robot first appeared?
(1/2)

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>>68140939
I swear one day i'm going to fall in love with a woman that's gonna look so gay but be super straight.....Either that or cut off my dick and transition already.

>>68140959
The show stopped trying to have a "team avatar" in book 2 when they realized it doesn't really work that well in the format and it was just done to ape ATLA.

>>68140965
(2/2)
>Season 2 as a whole was a goddamn mess. It had good episodes (Wan) and characters, like varrick and jhu li, but the rest of the season was awful. Shaky animation, bringing back back the love triangle, lame villian, and korra being retarded are just the standout problems.
>What were Jhu li and Varrick doing Season 3?
>Why have the spirit world and human world connect if they barely interact with one another? I swear only the spirit vines in Republic city had any sort of significance
>Did I mention that Korra was a retard? Because she is.
>The probending competition was really pointless in the long run.
>Aang showing up at the end of the first season to help korra get her bending back was awful
>Did they actually show or mention Wu's ability to tame the badgermoles before the finale?
>I don't care that Asami and Korra got together at the end of the show. What irked me the wrong way is that people have started calling the show progressive and one of the best shows of the year. It isn't. The show had one season (Change) that was great, the other three had good ideas but shaky execution (Air), were awful (spirits), and good until the last couple of episodes ruined it with deus ex machinas and leaving a lot of characters without closure (Balance).

tl;dr: The show had some great episodes and a couple memorable characters, but it also had a shit ton of flaws. The show is a 7/10, and that's me being generous. Did I mention that Korra was retarded though?

>>68140888
>post-show/movie depression
>depression
It's called catharsis and the greeks thought it was the whole point of telling a story in the first place.

>>68140960

But not for long...

>>68140979
The Greeks thought a lot of stupid shit though.

>>68140963

Well, admitting is the first step.

>>68140965
>>What happened to all the equalists after amon was killed?
They shut up after they let them elect a president.

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>>68140951
Well Rebels is alive for now... On hiatus though. And who knows how long it will last.

>>68140989
Yeah. Now all I need to do is realize that Sokka was funny, and that Azula was a deep character.

Then I'll be on /co/'s level.

>>68140954

Yeah, that one.

>>68138707
it was very clumsy and rushed.

>>68140917
>being in this much denial

>>68140959
Asami was so incredibly boring. Her one arc, the only thing that might have developed her character, was her arc with her father.

Instead they resolve that as quickly as they can during the last two episodes, so that Korra and Asami have something to hug about.

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>forced as shit last minute lesbian undertones
>americlap media hails it as incredible and revolutionary
This is why anime will always be better than western cartoons.

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>>68140998

>being this buttblasted

>>68140979
LOK had no catharsis though. Just a rush ending that didn't anything satisfyingly emotionally. You have to earn catharsis through good writing. It doesn't just happen because something technically ends.

>>68140888
>I hate post-show/movie depression.
between korra and colbert(which I stopped watching years ago but still tuned in for the finale) it's been harsh

>>68141009
I'll admit I'm pretty bummed. Just wanted to talk about this show I really liked. Every other website is just sucking each other off over korrasami, and /co/ sucks itself off over how shit this show is.

You sure showed me, guys.

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>>68140966
Maybe you should stop obsessing about this one fucking occurence in your life and focus on getting another straight chick. Jesus Christ, get your shit together already.
I don't even know why I indulge you.
>>>/r9k/ is this way.

>>68139238
>if all the characters don't constantly spout exposition about the villain, they aren't developed!
Kuvira was developed as an orphan last season, m8.

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So the only reason Asami hooked up with Mako to begin with was because she wanted to get closer to Korra? Then Korra ended up stealing Mako from her which was not what Asami hoped for but she still got to be close to Korra so she didn't mind too much?

So Asamis entire motivation was always to get that brown sugar and Korras motivation was to be an aircrafts so she could get good at airbending?

Was anyone else really ducking released that when milo saved tendon, he did it by air ending rather than farting? So happy they didn't make another fart joke.

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>>68140888
>>68141015

>>68141038
>Korras motivation was to be an airhead*

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>>68140965
>>68140977
Forgot your pic

>>68141035
>hey she's an orphan
12 episodes later:
>remember she's an orphan
>also Korra totes emphasizes with the enemy for the first time because she remembered how to kick ass again

>>68141040
>released
Relieved*

>>68141040
I know, I was bracing myself for the cringe

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>>68141040
>Was anyone else really ducking released when milo saved tendon,

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>>68141045
>Korras motivation was to be an airhead*

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>>68141017

We are talking about the show, in case you haven't noticed.

We're talking about how bad the freaking finale was.

>>68141059
Holy shit haha I didn't even realize that much shit got auto corrected

I think it would have been more enjoyable if going to the spirit world was Varrick's idea of a honeymoon and the last was Korra and the gang all tagging along. Throw in an ambiguous exchange of glances with Asami and badaboop badabong you get an ending thay fits with the tone of the show.

>>68141059
I asume he meant really fucking relieved when Milo saved Tenzin.

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>>68141040
>Was anyone else really ducking released that when milo saved tendon, he did it by air ending

>>68141067
Hey now that's not fair to just judge LOK by the finale. Don't forget how poor the writing was for the second half of every season as well.

>>68141040
>So happy they didn't make another fart joke.

It's still a fart joke because they knew you were expecting it. It's just not quite as dumb.

>>68141064
MORE

>>68141040
>Was anyone else really ducking released that when milo saved tendon
okay I don't know what happened here but I get what you're saying
yeah that was tense tho, maybe the animators were just fucking with us

>>68141076
But that would have been harder to animate. The lesbo ending was tagged on last minute. They needed it to be simple.

>>68141089
Honestly that's the best I could find. The few other examples are absolutely awful.

Bimboization is one of the worst fetishes to have.

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>>68141090
Autocorrect. It's 6am and I'm in bed on my iPhone

>>68141103
>iPhone
pffffhaahahahaa

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>Just look around you! You call yourself the Avatar? You didn't protect a damn thing!

>>68141095
>Bimboization is one of the worst fetishes to have.

Only because the artists that do it have no creativity or subtlety.

I thought the ending shot with Korra and Asami was cute.

>>68141108
>Only because the artists that do it have no creativity or subtlety.
Yes. What did you think I mean?

There's some good written erotica about it though. Limerick on MC Stories is fucking God tier.

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>>68141040

>Was anyone else really ducking released that when milo saved tendon,

>>68141035
>>68141053
this. orphan thing was an asspull. hell they cold have at least given her a flashback ep by cutting redundant parts of ep11-13. also bit more than "hey I know what its like, now give up. K' I mean I know what its like to want to kill people but if I talked to a killer I would not expect my understanding to make them stop

>>68141122
Then you're not welcome here.

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>>68141064
>>68141095
>>68141108
>>68141123
>Korra is bimboized
>Asami keeps her to protect her but she's basically little more than a pet
>the sex is great but ultimately soured by the deep pang of pity Asami feels whenever she remembers what Korra used to be like

Fuck I lost my long-ass message 'cause my tab crashed so you get the tl;dr version:

>>68140965
>What was the point of Bolin?
Sokka-wannabe from the writers, fails to live up to the legend but delivers when he isn't used to forced to insert comedy or being a literal retard. Feels like the Schwarzenegger of the avatarverse with his escapades.

>What happened/was the deal with/etc with [character]?
IMO LoK is bloated as fuck with needless characters that should be one-offs but ended up taking space from main characters. Feels like a severe need of an editor with a hacksaw to keep things in check.

>>68141107
>AVATAR OF MURDER
>S IS FOR SLUT

>>68139747
Is that Dean Pelton?

Also, Korrasami was canon from the beginning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg1RnAGncBQ

>>68141165
Can't fucking wait for the season 4 commentaries from this chick.

>>68141122
me too but the ending was very rushed and kind of forced. like they knew how they wanted to end it but did not know how to get there so they just made people do stupid shit ever since ep 11 to get this ending as lined up as they could

Its a shame how the likes of Avatar is treated on western tv. Disney shat over tron, CN shat over all of DC and nick shat over Korra.

I think western cartoons may be dying, or certainly their channels. I don't think the old funding mechanisms support cartoons anymore. Nick is nothing but spongebob, CN is nothing but johnny test and AT or TTG and Disney are killing Rebels. None of these are financially viable in the long run.

I really wish a company had some conviction to fund a series properly and air it like a big event again. Instead of shifting about schedules with no advertising and leaving them to die.

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>>68141171
>mfw

>giant mech
stupid
>Kuvira talked down in like 3 minutes
underwhelming
>combat
pretty sweet, better than expected
>Asami's dad died
trite
>rushed or no closure for half the cast
letdown
>Korra doesn't reconnect with past Avatar
boneheaded
>Korrasami ending
out of left field

Yet another mediocre season finale for Legend of Korra.

>>68141064
Well, she is an oaf.

>>68141187
>I think western cartoons may be dying, or certainly their channels.
Honestly they were barely alive in the first place. They had a brief, almost development recently and then got aborted before they could really come to term.