So, how many of you are going to do this when Korra's final book ends?
I did that ever since book 1. I don't regret it.
By the way, I heard you guys can only watch your precious show online now.
I just want to say: serves you right. People with shitty taste should suffer at least that much.
>Well, I know one thing for certain. It truly was the legend of Korra.
>What is going to happen? Anyone here hoping for Korra to die in book 4?
Korra joins the Red Lotus.
The reason the Earth Kingdom is so fucked up is because Avatar Kyoshi suppressed a peasants uprising and created the Dai Li to act as the Earth Monarch's secret police to prevent future rebellions.
Korra has the choice of doing that again or accepting the Red Lotus' philosophy and joining them.
She's going to join up.
I'll look back and remember it being a wild ride and more of a rollercoaster in terms of quality/substance than ATLA. I hope the ending goes all out on the production values like the last few episodes of ATLA too.
>korra will eventually end
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO FAP TO
Don't have any, but it's the dress that had the famous chart made that put her boobs at DD's.
Given her boobs are nice but clearly not DD's most of the time, it was clearly subconscious boob-bending.
They're so big and round.
>Only if she's pushed by others or obliged to do it tbh
Bullshit. She's very proactive. Just because her last 2 conflicts involved defenestration and giant wrestling exorcism doesn't change that.
Holy fuck, she's REACTIVE if anything. Only when she's pushed, does she become more proactive. Think about the Amon crisis, anon. Only when things became tougher and more apparent did she give a shit, otherwise she would just sit and cry.
I'm beginning to think Korra's attempts at peaceful conflict resolution aren't particularly genuine...
So have y'all noticed how the art style has gotten more simplistic causing the animation to be smoother? Like, look at this Korra, especially her eyes, have much less corners and it looks so good.
>Holy fuck, she's REACTIVE if anything. Only when she's pushed, does she become more proactive.
And you're not even trying to make a reasoned argument. Korra wasn't after Amon early on for 2 reasons. 1, she had no way of finding him. 2, she was afraid. This was dealt with in episodes 3-4.
In book 2, they weren't telling her about the spirit attacks because she knew she'd want to try and stop them if she heard. And she did, and so she went with Unalaq. She really wants to be the avatar and do the whole job, even if she's not very good at it at times.
I hope at some point book 4 she just gets sick of everyone else's petty bullshit and goes full Yangchen.
Were they everything you hoped?
That was how it was in Book 1 too. One thing that I did notice, one that probably is the choice of the producers, not the overseas animation studios, was that after Book 1 the color palette became less matte and more vibrant.
>Korra, Lin and Bumi/Kya going berserk on Zaheer's ass because Tenzin is kill
They did plentty wrong.
Season 3 is when the show finally hit its stride, but it definitely still has its faults. IMO it would benefit more from longer seasons like ATLA
Korra's uncle wants to free satan and do the fusion dance to become the evil avatar. Korra beats him up at the end.
Bolin becomes a movie star.
Mako and Korra break up.
Episodes at Nick.com
How the fuck did you dislike the Wan episodes?
You must love Korra in all of her forms.
Nothing happened in S2. Don't worry about it.
Well... that's not true. Korra fucked up. A lot. Don't worry about it. Seriously, don't. Just pretend she's not a despicable human being and you'll be all set for S3.
didn't they retcon a bunch of stuff
also it was just not interesting and the designs for the spirits were very... different from the rest of the series
origin of the avatar was neat I suppose
Might as well post this here since I dont want to make a new thread.
Bryke did an hour long interveiw podcast where they discuss everything related to thier time working and ALTA and TLOK as well as shit like the Shiamalyan movie and Korra getting pulled from TV.
Its pretty fucking interesting
Run to my basement so I can act disinterested and hopefully she'll get a little violent before agreeing to whatever she asks.
They did retcon stuff whether or not they say they didn't.
When the first benders were mentioned and explained in ATLA EVERYONE assumed it meant using the element itself in general.
SUDDENLY it somehow means the actual techniques, and the techniques are bending. Even though...they called people with no techniques in ATLA benders...like Katara in the beginning.
So suddenly the first benders are people that actually learned the techniques for their element.
Also Bryke had revealed that the Avatar spirit was separate from Aang and the Avatar's spirit in interviews so we kinda knew that even if it didn't seem that way in the series (but was actually mentioned offhand by Katara)
>When the first benders were mentioned and explained in ATLA EVERYONE assumed it meant using the element itself in general.
>SUDDENLY it somehow means the actual techniques, and the techniques are bending. Even though...they called people with no techniques in ATLA benders...like Katara in the beginning.
>So suddenly the first benders are people that actually learned the techniques for their element.
The first benders are still the ones who used the element, not the ones who learned the techniques.
What changed is instead of people somehow learning to breath fire by imitating dragons (which is great for legends and lore but not so cool in practice), the turtles bestowed the gift before that happened.
A good retcon, as far as I'm concerned, and it doesn't contradict anything.
>Listening to this
>Bryan worked on Mission Hill and Invader Zim
>Mike was an assistant director for King of the Hill and pre-cancellation Family Guy.
Kind of of shocked I didn't know this...
>Korra's final book ends
>possibly the last time we ever see Korra
>I mean if another network gives Avatar another season which focuses on a new Avatar
For the love of god, please no. The series really has become stale ever since the two creators took over the writing aspect of the show. They remind me of George Lucas, honestly. The further they stay away from the creative aspects, the better the show. Just stand back and give feedback.
My headcanon is that the avatar cycle is mostly "Water avatar fucks shit up, Earth avatar deals with the initial fallout, Fire avatar enjoys an era of general balance, Air Avatar tries to fix as much shit as possible in preparation for the next Water Avatar."
>ever since the two creators took over the writing aspect of the show
They only wrote the first season. They gave every subsequent seasons (2,3, and 4) over to other writers so that they could focus on the animation, world building and general plotline. While season 2 was a clusterfuck of clusterfuckery, season 3 has been everything I wanted Korra to be from the get go. Yes, it's sucks that it took them 3 season to hit their stride, but at least they finally hit a stride. If season 4 stays on track with what we've been given in season 3, then I'm completely willing to forgive season 1 and 2. Well... ok, not so much season 2, but some lenience to season 1 at the least.
I didn't like so much the second part of first season either and sure I prefer many things of the first series but c'mon, this "I hate this show, am I cool now guys?" thing is one of the biggest fagotries in this site now. You're getting boring anons.
>Even though...they called people with no techniques in ATLA benders...like Katara in the beginning.
They're benders but not real benders. Like how Tenzin said Korra wasn't doing "real" airbending in book 2 with her airpunches.
You reek of tumblr. So fucking smug and vindictive.
Because Nick paid for it beforehand.
The show doesn't air on TV anymore. It was taken off the air due to low ratings. It's cancelled. Since Nick already paid for the last season and it's already done they're just throwing them up online for the hell of it.
i dropped korra mid s2, and i would love to pick it up again, got a couple of quesiton though
is season 3 a whole lot better than season 2? should i watch season 2 to understand shit or is it another story? i just didnt like the whole spirits thing
The people who kept watching it probably do
But the series went from over 4 million viewers at the beginning of book 1 to barely over 1 million by the time it was taken off the air.
S3 is leagues better than S2, though that's not a achievement since S2 is the lowest point of the entire Avatar franchise
Maybe just read a summary of it online and skip to the far better S3
I made this while I watched it. It's short-haired Korra and also awful.
>"A character dies - almost - on screen"
>"A character dies, almost on screen"
WHICH IS IT? IS TENZIN KILL OR NOT KILL?
Ok, so just to be clear, it's mostly /co/mrades that say its shit. most casual viewers at least enjoy most aspects of the show.
Book one started out pretty awesome, but the writing got worse as the season went on, with most people, even fans, being disappointed with the lackluster finale, which was the worst episodes of the season. Ending on a sour note doesn't help your show.
Then season two kinda had the opposite effect. It started out pretty similar to later book one, with the same pacing and writing issues. plus they had to get a different, much worse animation studio for the first half of the season. But the flashback episodes to the first episode were well received, and most episodes after were decent, even with the finale being pretty convoluted. People tend to ignore korra's character growth in book 2 because she was pretty unlikeable in the first half of the season, but it was one of the few things that actually was written well, because by the end of the season she had a full character arc that continues into book 3.
Overall, the LOK hate on here is a little overblown, but /co/mrades to bring up valid criticisms. It does suck that you're the sequel series to what many people think is one of the best cartoons of all time
>LOK hate on here is a little overblown
Guess that should be expected given where we are, thanks anon.Might have to check out Avatar and if I get to it, might just skip Season 2 of Korra
>so that they could focus on the animation, world building and general plotline
Which is the biggest problem. Bryke's dialogue isn't too bad, but their plots are terrible. Even TLA had a botched resolution.
They seem unable to distinguish "This would be cool" and "This would be a well-constructed story".
>ratings were bad which means its bad
even ignoring how nick completely screwed over korra, you would think /co/ would be against this thinking, since most of our favorite shows were cancelled due to low ratings. Does this mean Tron, GLTAS, and Motorcity are bad shows as well?
But that's not character development; her character is just written differently now. It wasn't a change relevant to the conflict of Book 2, nor was it one that made sense.
If she had mellowed out after the events of Book 1 it would have made more sense, as that story was heavily about Korra learning self-control, but to have her be hot-blooded in Book 2 and then changed in Book 3 for no reason is unnatural.
do you forget her entire journey in the spirit world? where her bad attitude was literally manifesting her as a child, and she had to control her emotions to return to normal?
it doesn't get more clear than that.
>Her issue of always trying to be like the other Avatars was never relevant before or after the Book 2 finale, and she overcame it in like 2 seconds.
It was relevant since book 1.
The abrasiveness was not character development nor regression. She wasn't abrasive in Book 1. She was freaking out due to the situation she had on her hands, and reacted poorly, but understandably.
People don't change easily or quickly.
To be honest I hate Korra as much as most people do but We need to give credit to how Book 3 was handled.
Depending on how the finale goes it might be the best book In the entire franchise.
I haven't started watching season 3 yet. Does it follow the same formula as earlier ones (a couple good episodes at the start, then it goes to shit)? Will watching it make me angry at cartoons again?
I'm still frankly shocked that the love triangle bullshit hasn't happened at all this season.
although I'm a little worried about bolin/opal. hope that works out. Be cool to have another member of team avatar for book 4
That wasn't due to her bad attitude. She overcame it with hope, not cool-headedness.
But wasn't to the plot of Book 2, which is why her suddenly being more calm in Book 3 isn't proper character development.
That's missing the point, which is that Book 2 and 3 (and the series as a whole) hasn't had a proper character arc for Korra.
Book 1 started one but dropped it in the finale and the show hasn't picked it up since.
it was specifically her bad attitude. at the tea party she started complaining and yelling and evil spirits started to manifest. it was both hope and having a level head that helped her. When she reached the evil spirit on the mountain, she had to talk to it instead of fighting it.
and now in season 3 she's continued that growth. we see in the episode preview that she spends a lot of time debating on what to do about the red lotus, and ultimately decides to give herself up to save the air nomads, something she wouldn't have done in the past. it's character development, plain and simple
>That's missing the point, which is that Book 2 and 3 (and the series as a whole) hasn't had a proper character arc for Korra.
But Korra has had a proper character arc so far. The big problem with these arcs is the finales have had a way to not use this characterization, but it has added up and Korra has visibly changed.
She isn't "suddenly more calm". She's been getting slowly more calm, all the way from book 1. The thing is, even people who are getting calmer aren't immune to moments where they're not calm.
I'm not sure it could be called a "proper" arc if it has no relevance to any of the central conflicts.
It would be nice if Books 3 and 4 manage to tie everything together. I want this show to be good, but it's been a mess so far.
so from the recent nerdist interview, bryke said that book 3 has a definite conclusion that won't carry over to book 4.
QUICK, come up with the plot for the next season!
Hardmode: no new style of bending
a character arc doesn't have to tie directly into the plot for it to be "proper". a character arc is meant to show the person changing through the events that he's going through. If you compare korra now to korra in book one, there is a clear difference, and we can see in some episodes how she changed.
and it kinda does tie into the central plot, since now korra is willing to sacrifice herself to save the air nomads, instead of going headfirst into a fight. and this was only after asking for the advice of multiple people
Central conflict revolves around a hothead fucking up the spirit world. Korra enters the spirit world to fight him, aware that she can't rely on her bending there. She defeats him by being calm and winning over the spirits favor to help her.
Ties together all the previous experiences she's faced.
>This whole Avatarverse, just, I always say, it has this immense gravity and Mike and I could run. You know, we might get away for a little while, for a long while, but-
>It'll pull us back in!
>Yeah, you never know, and we still love the world. You create a rich world and you want to play in it, but just like when Avatar finished, we're tired and TV animation production is particularly brutal; the overlap is crazy. At one point, we were working on thirty episodes at one time and, like, it's seriously awesome that people want the show to continue forever and they want us to make 'Well, who's the next Avatar and the next and the next one?' That's a great problem to have, but I'm like, you don't understand. If you're saying that, then you don't know what it's taking out of us. You know, J. R. R. Tolkein didn't write fifteen trilogies.
They'll be back.
>They'll be back.
Nick is discovering that doing bigger and better shows with Bryke is too expensive and doesn't earn enough in terms of viewership/commercials and merchandising.
They might wanna come back, but the straight2innernets thing isn't very encouraging.
I hope you're wrong. As much of a trainwreck Korra might have seemed for the past two years, I've really enjoyed discussing it here and just experiencing the roller-coaster that is TLoK. I really want to have the chance to do this again in another five years.
Maybe they can make a trilogy of feature-films. That seems more viable right now than putting it back on television and I would wholeheartedly accept that fate of the franchise. A trilogy about the Earth Avatar before Kyoshi could be dope; just because we don't know anything about him so the possibilities are pretty far-reaching.
The lion-turtles just gave them the ability to bend. The animals taught them how to do it. There's a scene of Wan learning proper firebending from a white dragon.
The animals were still the first benders, they still taught humans how to use the arts. The only change is the extra step of the Lion Turtles giving humans bending.
>Depending on how the finale goes it might be the best book In the entire franchise.
That's not really saying much anon, especially when it's not over.
Bryke still has two episodes to fuck everything up, as usual.
Honestly I think the internet is the new way to go. If they had a team away from the studio and pitched a crowdfunded season with an earth avatar I'd pay for it. They can go about it as they want and not be hampered by a network with restrictions and time constraints. I realize those time constraints are an important part, but if they're getting worn down, it could be a plus to let them work on something at a pace that's more comfortable.
Nah. The very fact the main cast is less interesting than the barely characterized villains, and that the main character of the show is almost completely irrelevant to what's going on puts it below ATLA s2 at the very least. You could remove Korra from this season and it would actually increase it's quality. That's fucked
Did- did they seriously just compare themselves to Tolkein?
Ok, maybe a little
She wants to git gud to protect her husbando. She a best girl.
You make a fair point. I'm sure they were only trying to find something to relate to during conversation. I'm sure in hindsight they would scoff at themselves. They seem humble enough throughout the rest of the interview, I don't think they seem like the type to have grandiose delusions of how great they are.
She sold out her husbando because she thought edgeplant looked like him when he doesn't look or sound like him, used different cards, and behaved completely differently. Then, when she tries to git gud, she puts fusion monsters in her main deck, after having seen fusion monsters used in duels. She's retarded. At least Yuma had the excuse of being a fragment of someone's soul, Yuzu just has extra chromosomes.
Joey was using that new duel disk for the first time there, he didn't quite understand what he was doing. Yuzu's dad runs a dueling school, she dueled someone who uses fusion monsters, and she's enough of a dumbass to run fusion monsters in her main deck, not to mention that she doesn't stand by her friends. She's shit.
You're trying too hard.
Bullshit. The Duel Disk doesn't change the rules of the game, and there is nothing more straight-forward than Higher Attack Monster > Lower Attack Monster
Joey had been tutored extensively by Yugi and his Grandpa.
Likewise, Shozu doesn't teach fusion
It'll be good, but it'll only be one kind of ending, so it won't amount to the hundreds of ideas the collective of /co/ has come up with in their heads, so it'll be shit to everyone here. Everyone else will still like it though because they don't spend all day obsessing over it on a website.
I love how Korrafags try to frame it as /co/ being the only place that doesn't like Korra, when the show hemmoragged four million viewers over two years
That's an awesome defense man, I take back everything I say, Yuzu is absolutely NOT a tremendous shit.
The duel disk did change the rules significantly. Neither Joey nor Pegasus were able to figure out how you use it, which fucked over Joey.
Yuzu has seen Sora duel and been schooled by Masumi, she has no excuse beyond a defective mind for not understanding how fusions work.
>how you use it
It is LITERALLY the same exact shit as regular DM.
And if you think not figuring out fusions makes you dense, then what does not figuring out that higher attack monsters beat lower attack monsters mean?
Keep in mind Joey had dueled MULTIPLE opponents before this.
Kaiba's duel disks actually did change the rules though you moron. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Duel_Disk
Beyond that handicap, Joey didn't know how to place monsters in defense position on it. There's a difference between not knowing how to use a device you were just handed and not knowing how to use a mechanic you've seen in action repeatedly. Yuzu a shit.
Breaking Bad, Lost, the Original ATLA...
Now, some shows rise with viewers THEN fall, like Dexter, but those shows went on too long
Korra is notable in that it's a constant decline from Book 1 to Book 3
The ONLY difference between the Duel Disk and the regular duels is that with the duel disk only one monster can attack at a time.
HOWEVER, you can STILL set/summon monsters in defense mode, and you can STILL make use of the backrow, all shit Joey DIDN'T DO.
Yuzu is TRAINING right now - as in, she's LEARNING how to play the game. Joey was DUELING in a match AFTER he had trained.
If you're honestly going to say that not knowing how a mechanic works WHILE TRAINING TO LEARN IT somehow makes you worse off than ATTACKING A MONSTER WITH HIGHER ATTACK in a REAL MATCH, then nigga you're just one salty faggot.
If they bring up Tolkein in reference to why they will or will not do something, then they ARE comparing themselves to him
They compare themselves to better artists all the time, though
>The Duel Disk system also changed the rules of Duel Monsters. They followed Duelist Kingdom rules except for the following changes:
>Both players draw until they have 5 cards in their "hand". If they have 5 cards in their hand, they can't draw any more cards.
>1 monster card is placed on the "Main card stage", the centre place on the disk.
>The other 4 cards are placed face-down into the other places, the "Sub card stage".
>The players can only attack with the monster in the main card stage, providing it is in Attack Position first. It can attack the opponent's main card stage monster or one of the sub stage cards.
>Any monsters in the sub card stage are considered to be in Attack Position and damage calculation is done accordingly. Spell and Trap Cards are destroyed with no calculation done.
>The players may shuffle their sub card stages at their discretion.
Kaiba gave Joey the machine with no explanation of how it worked, of course he was fucked.
YUZU, on the other hand, HAS dueled against someone using fusion monsters, and she HAS NO IDEA how they work. She's a moron.
Oh bitch nigga, PLEASE.
The difference between the Duel Disk and the battle arena wasn't what fucked Joey - it was Joey's insistence on attacking monsters with higher attack.
I don't get how you find that acceptable but are foaming at the mouth about a girl learning a new mechanic in training.
Fuck, I don't even get why Yuzu rustles your jimmies so much, she's a nice girl.
She's not a nice girl. She's not good in any way. She won't stand with her friends, she's not a competent duelist, and she can't understand a children's card game. You're waifu a shit.
Well don't worry man, you only have to endure Yuzu for... three more years. And 130 more episodes. Hahah!
Wan learned how to professionally firebend from the dragons.
In the wan episode the other firebenders were amazed at how he controlled the fire. And in a scene before it's shown he's imitating the dragon. He got the element from the lion turtle and honed his skill from the dragon.
Not the same guy, but I always thought that it was just a lame addition to the lore of the universe that is way less interesting of a concept than humans learning how to bend from their environments but instead just learning it because something gave them the ability to.
What I hope will happen:
>Korra will defeat the Red Lotus in a way that ties the story together with a central theme
What will probably happen:
>Korra is put on the ropes then wins by using a new power
I'm going to watch the Last Airbender as a palate cleanser.
The problems with korra is basically this:
1. Making this tv series. There is NO POINT to make this tv series other than to make a shit zillion dollars.
2. The gaang can't be old. I don't want to see korra the age of my grandma and what she does 70 years after the war.
3. Korra. Her character sucks. All she does is punch and kick to so love everything. Literally she punched to learn airbending and kicked Amon out a window to win.
4. The plot. Avatar - aang must learn the four elements and defeat the fire lord before the comet comes. What's happening in korra? Dbz style bad guys are trying to kill people.
5. The characters that we are told to like vs characters we do like. Everyone loved sokka, suki, azula, etc. nodboy likes the bland characters of korra, mako, etc.
Honestly from that it just sounds like it's just different from the original Avatar. Perhaps more lighted though I wouldn't know since I'm not really into either show. Korra doesn't seem all that bland, though she does seem like an impatient and arrogant teen from what I've seen
OP, you should have used something clever instead of the poor man's AVGN Youtube Celebrity Guy. It betrays how shit your personal taste actually is.
I think you should stick to listening to Welcome to Night Vale, kid
Number four is key here. The other complaints are mostly minor, but Korra's plot is what drags it down.
TLA had the same problem - Rather than giving the story a proper theme, the hero overcomes their conflict via new powers that destroy any applicability the story might have.
Korra has it worse than TLA because its major plot points are more numerous and frequent. TLA had a lot of breathing room for good stand-alone stuff, and the stand alone mini-arcs that Korra's third book started with are the best the series has done so far.
>Honestly from that it just sounds like it's just different from the original Avatar.
Which is the problem. Korra feels like a visual imitation of avatar that feels like it was written by a eight year old with pointless shoehorned references to avatar, dull scenes, terrible action, and the non-existent plot. Korra should be similar to the original because I don't like things that are different. We went from a real iroh who was there to teach us things about bending to a fake looking iroh who was there to drink.
>written by a eight year old
>dull scenes, terrible action, and the non-existent plot
Out of curiosity, how much have you watched? I started Korra and didn't find it that bad at all but it sounds like I should just go watch Avatar instead
>Out of curiosity, how much have you watched?
Every single episode. Not impressed. You should just watch avatar season 1-3 and pretend korra is non-canon. Otherwise you have to sit though the shitty "plot" of korra like I have. Literally only reason I watch korra is because it's avatars successor.
I think part of it is that a lot of people who watched LoK while it aired had high hopes for it so when it didn't live up to its potential there were a lot of disappointed ATLA fans.
Season 2 is garbage though. There are some fun moments and Varrick is great but the antagonist was awful and the Wan episodes, while fun to watch, replaced the mystery of the avatar with a sub par mythos.
Is Avatar a solid show in it's own right or just when compared to Korra? Reason I ask is I'm not really looking into getting into a show, and just decided to check out Korra to see what it's about
You faggot your trying to say Korra and TLA have the same problem which is introducing new powers to overcome the main conflict but ATLA had this aswell the introduced energy bending to to overcome the conflict you retard. Unless by TLA you mean ATLA not the crappy movie then im sorry but TLA usually refers to the movie.
The first show with that aribending kid who was like the last airbending kid already proved you wrong.
Heck, Kuruk had only personal problems to solve, like hunting a face-stealing centipede.
Korra brought back airbending nation thanks to not following Apartheid politics, speeding up Tenzin's plans by centuries.
I kind of agree. Wan's episodes explained maybe a bit more about the spirit world than we needed explained, and in a way kind of changed what the spirit world was.
However, even before Wan the origins of bending were all over the place, and tales we heard couldn't all have been accurate (otherwise bending would be 100% learned...but also 100% genetic, while still being 100% spiritual)
Avatar season 1 - a new hope 9/10
Avatar season 2 - empire strikes back 10/10
Avatar season 3 - return of the Jedi 7/10
Korra season 1 - the phantom menace 3/10
Korra season 2 - attack of the clones 2/10
Korra season 3 - revenge of the sith 5/10
Yes I guess he have a bad personal taste, because it's looks like he is watching this mediocre cartoon until the end...
hahaha those korrafags, right?
Just catching up with this. Why did he get an accent?
Hard Mode: Earthbender who skateboards.
show is about general cliche late 80s/early 90s stuff. Something involving space.
Easy Mode: Wan or the airbender avatar after wan.
show is about the airbenders figuring out what the avatar is, building the temples/the avatar statues, and the world hunting the lion turtles to extinction.
I just finished Book 3 and it's everything I wanted from Korra from the beginning.
A smaller, more contained story that didn't have to be some world ending like Book 2 attempted. It focuses on how the world has changed since The Last Airbender. Getting to see Ba Sing Se still being incompetently ruled and corrupt. The advancement of earth cities like the metal clan. As well as how airbenders are actually trained, something we never saw in The Last Airbender. It doesn't have any forced shitty romance plots. Even side characters like Lin and Tenzin receive the proper attention they deserve. It's a shame they didn't pull this sort of turn initially.
I was about to stop watching this show midway through season two, and that was only because I saw the slightest amount of promise from season one.
It's a shame that its getting low ratings now.
So you saw the finale?
And you mention how it didn't have any forced shitty romance plots. By plot you attribute it as something that needs to reach a conclusion rather than just Opal and Kai?
Do you people only know of Star Wars? Every time Korra comes up someone just has to mention the prequels, complete with le ebin 'bryke is lucas' pic.
Amon's backstory, how Korra suddenly got airbending and kicked Amon out a window, how she got all her other bending by Aang appearing "out of nowhere", etc.
>By plot you attribute it as something that needs to reach a conclusion rather than just Opal and Kai?
Yes. They set both of these relationships up for something that could believably go further, in which their initial basis for liking each other seemed plausible.
Will they deliver on it? I doubt it. But I've come to expect that from this series.
How? Jinora likes Kai similar to how Korra liked Mako - for no reason.
And Bolin was just being himself until Mako instructed him to go after Opal.
And by series are you encompassing AtLA too and how Zuko and Mai were a thing along with Katara and Aang.
rushed backstory exposition for the villain
the reveal damaged the coolness of the villain
Amon's offscreen capture of Tenzin's family completely fucked up the weight of Lin's sacrifice to protect them earlier
Korra's defeat of him wasn't a true triumph for her. She lost against him in open combat and failed at her (awful) plan to publicly defame him. She instead got a lucky potshot in and everything else fell into place for her.
Korra's airbending never made use of the forms they bothered to show she learned, the logic as to how she unlocked it was flawed, and the fact she could bend at all even after having it blocked by Amon was all wonky
The easy evaporation of the equalist movement destroyed the social implications of what motivated the movement, which is half of what made it interesting. For it to simply be the result of a cult leader brainwashing half the population damaged the worldbuilding.
Korra immediately got back the rest of her bending, taking away the weight of her loss against Amon and making it a pointless plot element. The fact Aang came to grant it back because she cried like a baby didn't help either
more of a personal opinion, but the murder suicide. It was a hasty and sloppily written way of removing the villains for the story permanently without the heroes really defeating them and with little character development leading up to Tarrlok's decision to An Hero
Really, there's so much I could probably go on all night, but the jist of it was that ist was rushed and consisted of weak writing/plot
The "team Avatar" aspect, the love struggle, the antagonist isn't called out on his bullshit and how the whole city is okay with the elements again, how Korra unlocked airbending, how she get back her elements, Mako, Bolin, the unnecessary inclusion of General Iroh, and fartbending are among the things that struck a chord.
>How? Jinora likes Kai similar to how Korra liked Mako - for no reason.
Jinora hasn't been around any boy besides ones that were at least ten years older than her. She thought Mako was dreamy, at least I think I remember she did. Also going out exploring the other tribes is presumably the first time she's been away from Air Temple island in a while. To me I can understand her liking some street rat rebel when she's lived under Tenzin's roof her whole life. This is somewhat similar to Korra and Mako, sure. But that never went anywhere at all.
>And Bolin was just being himself until Mako instructed him to go after Opal.
I understand where you're coming from here. There is much less reason for him to be into Opal. But at the same time she seems like the most down to earth (no pun intended) girl that he's been around. Korra was the Avatar, and his co-star was a celebrity.
Neither of these relationships have yet faced the adversity that I would expect to truly make them work. So they're not that well realized yet. But's a good start.
The only two I can really agree with is tenzin's capture along with korra immediately getting her bending back. There should have been a several month timeskip before the final scene. Both are relatively minor flaws.
I'll attempt to stop asking direct questions to avoid spoilers, we still have another day to go.
Thanks for responding even though now I'm really afraid of Book 4 if those two are still around. That means that love can still come for the other three teens so they can all have someone just because.
The equalist movement dying out so quickly didn't phase you? It's easily one of the most interesting story motivations in the series. A have, vs. have nots in the most extreme of ways. Even with how advanced the Republic City and the rest of the world became as a viewer Its something that was way more apparent in Korra than it was The Last Airbender.
I timeskip wouldn't have alleviated the problem. Being debent was built up to be a menacing, weighty thing. For it to be cured within the same episode, regardless of whatever timeskip there was, removes that weightiness from the viewer's perspective. She should've either not gotten it back until sometime into the next season or she should've never got debent at all
The way I saw Korra
S1: Had huge potential, didn't really implement it well and the finale made it worse. Was generally ok
S2: The concepts and idea they were going for was totally over their heads. Light vs Darkness, balance and chaos, etc,etc. God-tier themes in asian (in this case asian influenced) animation, but beyond too much for them to handle properly and it was shitty. Wan two parter are shining gems in the pile of shit that was S2.
S3: Ironically enough, they got their shit together. The pacing is great, the subplots aren't overwhelming, the action is superb, and the familiar feel from the fist avatar series is present in some way. They basically make fun of how shit they were in the previous two seasons in dialogue between the main characters. If the quality from this season was in S1 the future of Avatar might have been very different. There's still time for them to turn it to shit in the finale, like S1 but way worse relatively speaking
Thanks anons, just watched it and can see where a lot of the points come from, though I skipped most of the season. Appreciate it since I don't know much about the show
Historically speaking, a lot of rebellions and revolutions will fail when the leader fails. Especially when the leader lies about who he is to gain power. They lost their leader and their weapon source the same day, which was the same day an organized army showed up to secure the city. I don't have any objections to how quickly the equalists gave up.
>mfw people on this board honestly think that Korra is a bad character and that this show isn't superior to TLA in every way
back to /tv/ it is
Sand bender. Xin.
Raised in the Wan-Shi Tong desert in complete obscurity amongst the sand tribe. His people have been vilified and persecuted by the Great Earth State, who have labelled them enemies of state and a scourge on their perfect society, which has become a mock socialist state ruled by a party of racial purists.
With very little water in his environment he doesn't discover he can bend more than sand until his 18th birthday, where a scouting platoon under the command of General Rohan fly into town. They are tracking the whereabouts of Koh The Facestealer who he suspects may be impersonating military officials from different nations.
His village is attacked and swallowed into the earth by insurgents of the Great Earth State, who are hunting for the new Avatar, believing they can be used as a weapon. Rohan learns they are planning a massive assault on the colonies of the United Fire Nations during the day of the black sun, who are allied with the Oceanic Union against the Great Earth State.
With the information that the area is soon to be firebombed, General Rohan takes the boy and flees to the great sea, knowing that until he masters the other elements and learns to lead an army, he may be killed or used to kill.
Book One: War follows Xin as he explores the uncharted seas of the East in search of information on how to find and defeat Koh, while being persued by an elite unit of airbender assassins under the control of the GES, capable of moving in absolute silence. On their journey they learn Koh is pulling the strings of the GES and the UFN, goading humans into what the spirit hopes will be a final and bloody end to the human race.
The resolution negated the rest of Korra's journey. Instead of tying into the themes of self-control and going with the flow, Korra beats Amon by flailing around and unintentionally Airbending him out of a window. And then, instead of now having to deal with a conflict that directly challenges her character (living with just Airbending), she's given it all back at no cost.
Without spoiling anything, does the ending actually have a resolution that's thematically appropriate for once?
Every Avatar finale so far has been "Here's new powers to fix the problem" instead of anything with any applicability to anything outside the story itself. Have Bryke finale learned their lesson?
>Not liking Korra
It's okay to be in denial, bros. She is a qt.
>that book 3 has a definite conclusion that won't carry over to book 4.
Haven't they realized that trying to fit these plots into seasons this small doesn't work for them.
It's okay to like her, you just can't trust her with any responsibilities. Take away her bending, keep her chained to your bed and fuck her in the ass for the rest of her life instead.
Not quite on part with the rightful fire queen. But wouldworship/10
Can they hold on for two more episodes? It kinda sucks that, while this entire season has been pretty good, if the finale isn't well received then /co/ will just call the entire season shit. At the same time, the ending is the crux of a season, and can retroactively make a season seem worse if its handled poorly.
Still kinda worried since there are plenty of anons who will hate it because it doesn't fit with their fan theories or because it isn't perfect. Kinda like the season two finale, which was a convoluted mess but still pretty entertaining. I still think season two, overall, was better than season one.
What would Dante Basco even sound like as an old person?
Still like an infant.
Iroh 2 cracked me up.
It was kinda like a Doctor Girlfriend situation.
Here we have a supreme badass, a general no less, a real action hero! And he sounds like a whiny teenager.
Also the episodes were stolen off the server for the Mexico leak.
Network Incompetence all around for this bad ratings.They give a good breakdown for the numbers.
Reruns didn't go well because they didn't run them in order in the main network, but Nicktoons did very well with them in order.
Friday night is a deadzone for Cable
yea they mentioned how korra was the highest rated show on nicktoons network since they actually aired the episodes in order
did nick even have ANY reruns of korra. I can't recall a single time it did
The whole fucking season was about her learning air bending, she went to republic city to learn air bendering, at the air temple. Several episodes where about her trying to airbend.
If anything, that ending was predictable as hell. I knew she from the start she was going to "beat the final boss with this rare ancient power" hook.
>Both Korra and Jinora where born in a situation of being over protected for being "The holy symbol of your world"/"An endanger species".
>They both latched on to the first cock they could reach.
Seems believable to me.
at least its being advertised somewhere
Nah, he'd just reveal to Zaheer that everything he's learned about Guru Laghima was wrong and that Laghima was actually just the greatest Air nomad comedian/prankster to ever live and that all those quotes Zaheer kept repeating were just the setups to his jokes.
"Enter the void and become wind" is a joke where the void is the air around you and the wind is your farts
"instinct is a lie told by a fearful body hoping to be wrong" is a joke about accidentally pooping yourself when your instinct tells you that you might shart your pants and you fear that but you still hope it's a fart
But seriously, Aang would try to talk him out of it using wisdom from other famous Gurus and monks and maybe even Laghima's own quotes that Zaheer doesn't know about and when that fails, he'd beat Zaheer's ass and take away his bending.
Holy shit I just realized it's tomorrow. I knew before, but now it's really hit me. Suddenly super hyped up, even if it tanks.
Jeez can you imagine the tension though. The whole season would instead by the Red Lotus with Unalaq trying to find the Earth avatar baby before Tenzin and the others. Then they kidnap the baby and make the baby touch the portal, and then team avatar minus the avatar have to fight unalaq/vaatu.
Ah shit, I don't want P'Li to die, but I know the Red Lotus are either going to escape or they're going down.
I have to be honest, I'm pretty excited to see how it all turns out.
I hope this won't be too disappointing.
The nature of my work has involved many journeys into the spirit world. According to tradition I have always left my physical body guarded by a close friend in the Order. This ancient tradition - spiritual journeyer paired with physical observer - is as old as the age of the Avatar. It is ostensibly to ensure my body’s physical safety. The true purpose of the practice is to guard against a much more sinister threat. While my spirit is on its journey, an ambitious spirit may seek habitation within my body.
A rogue spirit moves through unwilling flesh like venom. Ancient records show that victims of possession exhibit signs of delirium when they awaken, as the foreign spirit attempts to assert control over the body. My guardian in the physical world watches for these signs. In the event of my possession, I must be prevented from deceiving my fellows within the Order, or all we are working for might be lost. My physical body must be destroyed. It is critical, therefore, that my guardians be chosen such that they know me personally, yet would have no compunctions against ending me for the greater good. Only the most fanatical members of the Order are entrusted with such a task. A young acolyte from the north with an interest in airbender philosophy is proving to be a promising candidate.
—The Journals of Xai Bau
/co/'s a crock of shit, that's all you need to know. If you enjoyed it, that's what matters. Even the creators themselves realize and have stated they aren't happy with how things turn out, but given time and budget, sometimes things don't up as perfectly as they'd like, but it is what it is.
>My physical body must be destroyed. It is critical, therefore, that my guardians be chosen such that they know me personally, yet would have no compunctions against ending me for the greater good.
Is this what happens to Tenzin?
>implying korra was stupid to trust unalaq
I really don't get you people. There was nothing wrong about what he was suggesting, as far as anyone knew, since neither tenzin nor her dad could come up with any reasons against it. And he's her fucking uncle and water pope, you don't generally suspect those of wanting to trigger the goddamn apocalypse.
I listened to it as well, it's very difficult to locate because they only mention it for like 5 seconds, but it's past the hour mark for sure, perhaps even in the last 10 minutes or so. I'll find it again if need be.
Take a close look at this image. There are two people standing on the cliff, and I'm 99% sure it's Zaheer and P'Li. With that in mind...I bring attention this >>64828706 gif, where Zaheer seems to be calling out for someone. Maybe P'Li is in danger? Our heroes finally get the better of her? And finally, where would Ghazan and Ming Hua be?
I don't. Honestly. There was interview where Bryke said that, Korra will have to solve problems without strenght at the end of book 3. I can't find it thought. If I find it, I will post it
Am I the only one that wants to see a time skip of around 40 years? I want to see an Old Korra travelling all over the world searching for knowledge of the past Avatars and shit.
Like Old Ezio.
Let's face facts, the only reason why Zaheer was locked up in a cell so severely was just to hype him up as a villain and as being dangerous and to add tension to his escape.
The guy is a nonbender who so far still hasn't shown anything outside of his bending that makes him seem like that high level cell and security was necessary
Besides, that cell of his was still able to hold him securely for 13 years so it's clearly effective even if he is able to project his spirit out, so if anything Zaheer is probably gonna die or get his spirit trapped in that spirit fog.
Ghazan and Ming are maybe watching the airbenders? I have a theory that the group is gonna split into twos, one is gonna focus on trying to get Korra back and the other is sneaking into the temple via earth tunneling to get the airbenders.
Doesn't mean that there will be no fight. Maybe there will be some short fight and at the end Korra will convince Zaheer to kill himself. You know, just like in Bethesda villain dialogue choices
Korra would stomp Zaheer in a fight anyway. She has more at her disposal than Zaheer does. I think they're going to make a deal of some kind, a deal where Korra will decide to help them for whatever reason it is. Remember the big revelation is what Korra is needed for.
>In addition, the finale might be up early for purchase on Amazon and Google Play. The last three weeks Korra was up early on Amazon and two weeks for Google Play. Each week it has been on Amazon before Google Play. Last week Korra was up on Amazon at around 4am EDT on Friday. I have been tweeting Nick all week to try to get them to stop this from happening, and I know they are aware of the problem, so this might not happen this week. I haven’t received assurances that it will stop though (there seems to be confusion between departments at Nick on this).
I swear to God if I say up tonight just for the episodes to not be on Amazon because of this guy I'm gonna cut someone.
They still have to show it. I like Korra and the season in general, but I'm starting to get pissed that Korra never gets to display the power she's got. That's why people keep calling her a shit bender.
No that poster but Unalaq was factually incorrect his reasoning to open up the portals which should've been obvious to the other characters, and he went about things in a wrong way
Unalaq said that he wanted to open the southern portal because the south stopped being spiritual and that that stopped the spirits from dancing in the sky causing the lights in the sky that the North still happens to have (the Northern Lights). But the portal is closed in the North also and yet they still have their lights, so opening the portals clearly isn't actually necessary and the fact that the spirits are already coming in and they are hostile means letting more of them in without having a truly inherently spiritual southern water tribe would actually be a bad thing. Once again exemplified that since the North was still spiritual they weren't attacked by spirits until Tonraq attacked and destroyed that forest.
Bringing in the military was also pretty stupid and shallow of Bryke to have Unalaq include since the army really shouldn't be necessary in spiritual matters and clearly painted Unalaq as a villain. Unalaq wanted the make the South more spiritual but he never actually taught the Southern Water Tribe denizens anything about the spirits, how to communicate with them, how to live with them, calm them down, nothing. He just brought in the military, kept anyone from leaving, opened up a portal and that's it. There was clearly no reason that the other characters would be able to see, for him to keep the military there after opening the portals so he was clearly up to something else.
>Bringing in the military was also pretty stupid and shallow of Bryke to have Unalaq include since the army really shouldn't be necessary in spiritual matters and clearly painted Unalaq as a villain
But the people weren't spiritual that much, they were watching a giant monster shoot chest lasers at shit.
>Bringing in the military was also pretty stupid and shallow of Bryke to have Unalaq include since the army really shouldn't be necessary in spiritual matters and clearly painted Unalaq as a villain. Unalaq wanted the make the South more spiritual but he never actually taught the Southern Water Tribe denizens anything about the spirits, how to communicate with them, how to live with them, calm them down, nothing. He just brought in the military,
In this case for Korra it was a case of, "he's the spiritual guy and the chief, he knows what's best". Obviously that isn't how a lot of other, older people in the SWT saw it and that's how the Civil War started. Thing is, the SWT was really not a spiritual place or else you would have people there who would contest with Unalaq's plans, they just plain as day didn't like him being there with a military force.
The Unalaq was proposing that the open portal would help soothe the spirits that were attacking the south due to their low spirit powerlevel. Which could make sense, as far as anyone else new. He's the spirit master.
And he wasn't entirely lying, the spirit portal opening DID cause "southern lights".
As for the invasion, he brought his troops in to "protect the portal", which is a weak excuse but one you could give him the benefit of the doubt on. Not that everyone did, people did call him out on it. Korra wasn't keen on it, but decided to overlook it for a while because again, he was her uncle, the pope, and NWT king (and they were in good relations with the NWT).
But as far as unalaq's plan goes, yeah, it was a dumb one. Much better ways to go about it. Let's chalk it up to his being a nutcase.
I thought I heard from some posters here and in other threads that the Red Lotus thing wasn't gonna carry over to season 4 and that it'll all conclude with the finale based on what some reviewers who already saw the episode said.
So we might just get Zaheer just telling Korra what he wants to do with her followed promptly by Korra fighting and beating the Red Lotus
Maybe it was just due to the fact that
> He was a strategist, coordinating the plans with his team
> He lead his team, so just to make it "fair" or "even" for him, he'd be locked up just like his teammates were
> He's probably an escape artist/martial artist, seeing as how he's so agile, airbending just helped a lot with that
On his own, as a threat, he's probably not that great, especially with no bending. We also don't know if he knew hand to hand combat or anything. But he gets locked up just because his friends were too.
There's been no proof either way. Following the trend of the show so far, right now it's more likely the RL conflict will end with this book. People are just hoping it won't.
It should be noted that at this time in the past two books we were aware of the bad guys' plans, so to speak. We knew Amon wanted to take away bending everywhere and Unalaq wanted to unleash Vaatu and become an Avatar (I'm pretty sure we had known this by episode 11 at least). We don't know what the RL's plans for Korra are.
I think it might be possible that the book will end with all four dead only for them to reveal at the end there's still a lot more members out there.
I just finished season 2 and the hate on it is all hive mind /co/ bullshit. Its perfectly fine. I put back watching it and was seriously dumbfounded when I realized how picky and sensitive the board was about it. They create an origin story which, I thought was very fun and gave a new perspective on how the avatar actually became the bridge between the spirit world and material world. People just hated it. It wasn't what they wanted and they couldn't take it for what it was.
>Those spirits aren't even relevant.
Sure they are. They're coming into the world and a lot of people don't like 'em. They're not central to the plot because the book isn't called SPIRITS 2.
You're so right, anon. There's no way people could just hate something you like because honestly found it bad.
I swear to christ, /co/ is just full of fucking psychology majors.
Someone once suggested that those guys aren't actually bending and they're just practicing earthbending movements or something, and the guy actually doing the bending is offscreen.
Wait, are you talking about the northern water tribe dudes not being spiritual or the southern water tribe not being spiritual. Cause the northern water tribe was still spiritual since they still followed the old ways and had the spirit oasis thing with Tui and La.
And the south, yeah they weren't spiritual but that was the point, Unalaq comes in on the pretense that he'll make the south more spiritual but he doesn't do anything besides open the portals, no spiritual lessons like he allegedly gave Korra, no calming, no prayer, no ceremonies, nothing. The army didn't have anything to do with that and came in after the portal was open anyway and stood around just not letting anyone leave.
If Unalaq is gonna pretend to be there for the good of the South and their spiritual matters, then he should actually teach them something about spirits like the North has been doing that had kept their spirits calm and kept their northern lights on even when their own portal was closed, and the southern portal being closed and a non spiritual southern water tribe, was the reason he told Korra was the reason the spirits were angry.
But since the north also had a closed portal but no angry spirits, thus reinforcing that the only difference between the North and South was that the North still practiced spirituality while the South did not, it's obvious that Unalaq would've logically only had to make the people themselves more spiritual rather than open up the portal since that only lets more spirits in but doesn't stop them being angry for the south no longer being spiritual.