So TMNT is officially the 4th biggest august release of all time, made $20 million more during its opening than the studio's own projections, and it's already been confirmed for a sequel. Never bet against Ninjas.
This is the world we live in. This is a world where Bayformers not only makes money, it breaks records. This is a world where Adventure Time and Steven Universe exist, and are also popular.
I don't want to live in this world anymore.
TMNT was originally created to make fun of the cliches and excesses of 80s comic books. At the same time, it went so far that it came right back around and actually found an audience among the very people who those more mainstream comics were made for. The cartoon did the same thing, except it was for a younger audience. It took the silliness of 80s cartoons and intentionally amped it up to 11. Kids loved it, and as an adult you can appreciate the fact that the show was laughing at itself. The comics, cartoons and films have always been a mashup of popular cliches where you can have a laugh at them while also appreciating what makes them work.
> thinking success =/= quality
That's a kinda arrogant way of thinking
If something has mainstream success there has to be some form of quality otherwise nobody would've cared in the first place
Just because you and you're circle think something is shit doesn't mean the other guy and their circle are gonna think that way
I am officially using that as the filename from now on.
I wonder if in this sequel they are gonna drop Megan Fox and actually get someone good looking to play April.
But probably not, Megan probably could suck the copper off a penny, thats the sole reason Bay would keep her around.
If you have an hour to watch E-celebs piss and moan over the new movie, you also have an hour to watch them gushing over it.
Because people liked the previous incarnations of the turtles and neanderthals liked baysplosion movies and bandwagoners want to appear hip on all the freshest meems, it was almost guaranteed a decent audience.
Success is to quality as Interior Semiotics is to art.
Doug thought it was OK. Which I was shocked by, considering his angry rant about the movie when it was announced. He said it not a "good" movie but considering that he walked in wanting to hate it, he was surprised at how much about it he liked.
For perspective: Brad Jones hated Man of Steel and TMNT. Doug hated Man of Steel but said TMNT had some redeeming value.
Not just girls.
>heroic black people
>Black Casey Jones
>White Baxter Stockman
I'm actually glad this movie exists. It's going to make an excellent Rifftrax Live event!
Rifftrax sucks. MST3K was good because they went out and found weird old movies that were perfect for the format of humor they use, and because half the charm was that the movies were old. With RIfftrax they have to do big, new, popular blockbusters that people want to see shredded, because people won't pay for Rifftrax of old obscure movies that they haven't heard of. Most of the time they end up being really boring because they don't have enough to work with. Avatar is a 3 hour long showroom floor demo for TV stores and they still had to make enough jokes to fill the entire movie.
>HTTYD2 get shafted by the public but this becomes a success
I think that alone, more than anything else this year, is the most salt in the wound for me. HTTYD shouldn't have had to fight for success, it deserved so much more. But this...gets away with so much bullshit, so much BLATANT bullshit that goes against how you make a film...regardless of what the subject matter is...just...fuck!
I don't see how it could be anyones surprises
it got "creator of transformers movie" AND a successful franchise behind its name, not to mention a popular slutty actress as the main human lead, of course it would be a hit
I played male Shep, and there were still moments where I wish I could've just jumped Garrus' bones...especially at the end of the game when he took off on that ship...fuck, I wanted to hug him. Stupid not gay Garrus...
>GotG made over 310M in 10 days
>TMNT couldn't make 100M in it's first weekend
>MFW /tv/ shitposters got BTFO
>denying that it was Marvel-drones who were anally devastated that GOTG was not #1 for two weeks
>comparing a film's first week to another film's first weekend
>comparing a film that has already opened worldwide to a film that is only open in North America plus a few select territories overseas territories
TMNT did not open as big as Guardians but it still opened much bigger than anyone (including the studio) was expecting.
Mordin went out like the bosses of bosses.
"would've like to run tests on the seashells."
"Had to be me, someone else might've gotten it wrong."
Man if the writing team hadn't been split factions...what could have been.
Man that shitted all over the new Wolfenstein for like three videos because the textures weren't high rez enough for his autism, and he was playing on a shit console half the time. Fuck these canucks. I'll stick with the Super Best Friends variety.
Whoa. You just made me think about the '80s show in a completely different way.
I wonder if the new movie is intentionally exaggerating all of the Michael Bay style action movie archetypes? I wonder if it's actually a parody, and much more intelligent than anyone is giving it credit for?
Holy shit maybe it was INTENTIONALLY parodying all the convenient coincidences in comicbook movie plots and frame by frame copying TASM1's big tower finale because it was a self-aware parody
>Watch the new movie
>"Mmm. It was pretty meh."
>go home and see original I and II are playing on tv
>"Alright, time to relive my childhood!"
>"... did, did I just watch the same movie?"
I swear, it was bullet point to bullet point the same movie.
April discovered by Turtles by being a little less than ninja, April meets them again in sewer, Splinter expositions backstory (in fact, he does this in BOTH movies), Foot invades layer, Splinter is hurt, one turtle or more is kidnap, rescue mission, they reunite, they make a comeback, rooftop with finale with Shredder.
It's like these guys just took bullet points from I and II and just made that into a modern movie.
>That movie formula plot
Can't they just stop and not do it?
Not him but RiffTrax really is a far cry from MST3K. Without the layer of abstraction that the story and puppets added, it just becomes a bunch of men in their 50s talking over movies. The writers are obviously much younger than the riffers are as well, it's kind of cringeworthy hearing some of these newer references coming out of hardcore conservative Mike Nelson's mouth.
This mashup culminated in a fucking awesome movie called Turtles Forever. If people haven't seen it, it's basically Crisis on Infinite Turtles. The relatively serious turtles of the 2003 series meet their goofy 80's counterparts and eventually their bloodthirsty grim n' gritty original Mirage comic book versions. The whole thing is available on Youtube, it's not optional for TMNT fans.
Just because you're parodying shit doesn't give you a free pass for being shit
I think TMNT succeeded because it moved away from the parody aspects really quickly. After the first issue, and maybe the initial arc with the mousers, Eastman and Laird gradually dropped the Frank Miller dialogue and started bringing in all sorts of crazy/awesome stuff like TCRI, triceratops aliens, Utroms, and motherfuckin' Fugitoid. The parody provided a solid base but the franchise didn't really start to thrive until they left it behind and got really creative. I love the original Mirage run, E&L weren't the best artists/writers but there was just a ton of energy and love involved in every page.
>This is a world where Adventure Time and Steven Universe exist, and are also popular.
Name a currently airing children's cartoon that's better.
>let's put a space marine inside of a bigger space marine, and have that pilot an even bigger space marine
>IN THE GRIM DARK FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAR AND THE LAUGHING OF MAD GODS
I ended up watching some of the 'bad' choices in the game on youtube, like trying to stop Mordin from curing the genophage. After all the times he insists the genophage was the right thing to do, I nearly lost it when he finally just screams that he was wrong.
Watched it on bootleg; it was nowhere near as bad as I thought it'd be...it was just very generic. There was also very little Michael Bay influence on the movie. It was an okay movie, nothing special.
>tfw no cartoon series of 2014 turtles
Yeah. Personally the only really stand out parts were Shredder/Splinter/Turtles and everything else was either really generic or just phoned in.
Left me with the impression that kids will enjoy it and a sequel could build on it.
>TMNT was originally created to make fun of the cliches and excesses of 80s comic books. At the same time, it went so far that it came right back around and actually found an audience among the very people who those more mainstream comics were made for.
Just like Evangelion.
>I wonder if in this sequel they are gonna drop Megan Fox
It was a waste of time, but just nothing about the movie was really that good. CG sucked, effects were pretty trash, really stupid slo-mo, plot from the amazing Spiderman, every character is one step from the other.
I was expecting a more enjoyable train-wreck. Not particularly salty, but it's really sad that this is getting any money what so ever.
Reminds me of when I saw X-Men: First Class.
After the movie ended all the girls in the theater were gushing over how hot Beast was.
Not Hank, Beast.
The term lowest common denominator really does make a lot of sense when you think about it. There's a reason why the most popular [blank] is usually hated by people with knowledge or experience in [blank]'s category. I.e. Transformers, Naruto, Call of Duty, etc.
>mfw I just watched a view clips of it on YouTube
Why are they niggers?
Its shit. But its a good looking and not that smelly shit.
Its a one of a kind, precious shit.
The likes that your anus will never spill.
Its golden standarts shit.
Maleficent? Transformers 4?
Thats homeles disgusting guy shit.
Did Megan Fox make this face at anytime during the movie?
Oh yeah I forgot: In America if you're white, your race "doesn't matter" and you might as well be recast as a minority race. But if you're not white, then your race is "integral" to your character and changing it would be "racist."
The new film certainly "borrowed" plot points from the first film but the execution in the first film was a lot better. The first TMNT film was actually pretty good. The sequels, not so much. The new film, while having a similar story, loses all the charm of the original and the poignant moments of the original are drowned out by Michael Bay's trademark explosions and mindless action focus.
Not at all suggesting the first TMNT film was a great example of fine cinema, but it was a good film for the franchise. This new one not so much.
You missed the point of that.
I'm saying that if people are saying the new movie is bad, then to some extent, the older movies are bad. Though >>64527326 makes some valid points.
The older movies had their share of problems, but Bay's Turtles were lacking in soul and charm. That's why I said it was meh, instead of the constant LOL IT'S SHIT FUCK YOU BAY that seems to keep popping up in these threads.
OUTTA MY WAY MUTATED FUCKING SHITS
>At least Shredder was in it
>The Turtles looked gross
>They retold the origin story AGAIN
>There was no Technodrome, no Dimension X, no Krang
I thought they would tear this film apart
>Mikey is going to be NTR'd by Casey
I could watch it for shits and giggles, and I might enjoy more than say most of the MCU films, but you expect James to be very critical about TMNT. Super Best Friends were tossed out a huge list of flaws from this film, but their rankings were pretty much the same
I fucking hated it. I'm actually sorry I put money towards this mess. The turtles were hideous...the personalities were fine I guess, but man, I couldn't sit through this movie again. No way.
How did this garbage make so much money? It was seriously bad. When I heard that the turtles were April's pets I had to facepalm. Its just too stupid. Not to mention omitting all ties to Hamato Yoshi and as a result Splinter learning martial arts from an....abandoned text book.....ugh.
Because of retards who still see it despite knowing it's going to be bad like >>64520218 these retards and the retards who actually enjoyed it.
If you paid money to watch this film just to complain about it, you are part of the problem.
Grow some balls and go sneak into a showing after watching a good movie, OR fucking buy a ticket for a good movie you've already scene and then go watch this trash. That way you're not cheating the theater out of it's cut of the money, and you can give money to actual good movies.
Oh my fucking God, this movie truly is the DmC of movies
"Self-congratulatory" means congratulating one's self. Is it really self-congratulatory if we didn't make the movie? Or are you implying that we are somehow taking credit for the film's success?
As true as that may be, this movie feels way too much like he did direct it given the sheer amounts of product placement, military hardware, and "urban youth slang". Not to mention the fact that once again the human characters take up too much of the plot and we're forced to accept the pretense of Megan Fox as an actor.
And yeah, it's TMNT and they're commercialized as fuck, but even for the franchise this was over the top.
Aside from Humvees there really wasn't much military hardware, and Humvees are available to civilians anyway (or at least they were for a long time). There was no military in the movie at all, either. which is especially funny because Battle Los Angelis was a military movie (directed by Liebsman).
The only good part with Megan Fox was when she was being told by what's his face to "give audiences a little candy" translation fanservice. It felt like a neat insult at this no talent whore's career that she probably only got by giving blowjobs.
God I wanted someone to punch her during the two scenes where she screamed "Shredder!" she sounded so shrill and annoying.
Also WTF was up with that Non-Actor guy who was the scientist Shredder hired for the mutagen? He seriously sounded like he didn't want to be in the movie, like he only tolerated showing up in the whole thing just to get a pay check. Even his villain taunts were lacking in emotion ("you're cute, I could just pinch your cheeks"). Its like this guy didn't even know how to have fun with villain taunts. Even fucking Jack Nicholson knew how to ham it up as the Joker when puns and taunts came into play.
but my two best firneds said it was shit
Ain't it the truth.
tfw this was my local news station and I saw it when it happened
>that Non-Actor guy who was the scientist Shredder hired for the mutagen
He was the real Shredder until they reshot stuff.
Also he was the bank manager in TDK and the agent in Prison Break
This kinda feels like they took another script and just added turtles. Like it was some generic action movie about fighting off a big bad corporation going to poison stuff. They just added turtles show up and fight every now and then in the script
This might have even been an early draft of amazing spider-man being repurposed
just saw it yesterday
and I was sad at how bad it was
it had a few moments but not enough to save it