Draw this again thread.
at the end of this thread are you going to post a screencrap of this and the last thread you made with the same starter image? because a week isn't really enough time to make significant progress.
>6 fucking years
>the only skill that has improved is they went to digital
Fucking christ I know artists that would tear this retarded artist a new asshole with that amount of laziness.
How is it possible to have slightly better skills yet still produce something much worse than what you did years ago?
Laziness knows no bounds, some artists just are so lazy they stick to a style and keep that style forever, only changing it up with colors and styles like in the pic above.
Worse is when they go on deviant art they rather be artists for the social aspect then the skill aspect. And the hug boxing is just the worst.
depend of the age of the first one. Most poeple plateau hard in the 8-15 area because at this age you draw for fun, with no real direction. DA community will not teach you anything, it's not different than scribbling on your math pages during class.
Oh quit it, Anime isn't the cause, it's people copy and paste styles and butchering it for their own gains. That's nothing new in the art world it's just more prevalent because of the internet culture.
By hitting the middle ground.
You aren't breaking the rules anymore in an accidentally appealing/"almost acceptable looking" way.
But you aren't technically savvy enough to pull off impressive technique wank art.
You are in the middle ground and your art has nothing going for it.
to be honest there's no real proof the person actually drew that much in those years. Manny people DA is like, 1 or 2 personal art per year, the rest is spend favoriting other people and posting comments.
Web personal relationship. She's a nice person, really, but she loves crossovers. And shes just trying to pedal her fanime.
I just cant tell her that she sucks because im an extreme pussy.
I could tell her she sucks and give her hard core constructive criticism, you're only enabling her behavior and art anon. She's never gonna amount to anything if she doesn't push herself for progress and success with her art.
I would give Dobson credit if he was just humble that his art is the way it is simply because it works for him, but he acts like such an elitist jerk about his art that it just really makes no excuse for his art. He preaches how much it means to be an artist and how much time and effort and labor it takes to be an artist, yet his art is really sub par webcomic level nonsense.
>Most animes (keyword: most) look the same to me.
you are a retard with no artistic skill then. Also
>not always the same disney, square or johnK style ad nauseam
>b.b.but realism is my style!
yeah right, that ideology is jsut as toxic as any DA circlejerk.
1) people can draw in different styles, literally every western artist with any skill can draw anime characters. Most anime is specifically designed to be drawn by anyone without difficulty (Korean sweatshops).
2) people's styles are usually melds or evolutions of their teacher's/idol's art style. If those influences are Japanese, it makes perfect sense for their art to be in the anime style.
As long as she has no delusion of being a professional artist, her being kind of crappy isn't hurting anyone. Let her have her fun.
My art is shitty as hell, but I just doodle for fun. I have real, marketable skills, but drawing isn't one of them. I don't understand why people act like drawing has to be a way of life. For some people, it's just something to do after work.
>dat empty landscape
>dat character in general
Yes, credit's given to that. But going through them page by page then the transition is almost insignificant.
I know people who from drawing from that level to having their art featured in published artist books, having international exhibitions and getting jobs in video game concept art industry in the same time span.
Porn is good when done good
People focus more on filling a checklist of fetishes and elements to repeat from more successful artists because deep down they are still too hung up to seriously study and express their eroticism.
i decided to redraw one of my old works.
this was a fucking hassle to do, especially finding something on my old dA that wouldn't get me banned here, but more importantly, which one would you fugg?
I don't know. I don't understand it. I see artists plateau and I just don't understand. If you draw all the time, you should be getting better, even if your methods are crap.
Hell, MY methods are crap and I've gotten better over time.
Things like Dominic Deegan I will NEVER understand.
Also if you want to see and artist going down-hill. Compare John K.'s recent drawings to his 80s stuff. It's like he just doesn't care anymore.
Personally, i'm sick of seening chubby, pear shaped, thunder thighed women everywhere, i am so numb to it all porn is becoming useless and i'm getting back into anorexic whores again.
I want this hiper fertility fad to end so variety in women can exist again, since deep down it's becoming a form of bimbofication.
Ronnie. Whomp has "ok" art. It's nothing amazing. BUT it carries the joke, and that's all it needs to do. It has no pretensions about what it is.
And it's definitely improved over time.
>it's people copy and paste styles and butchering it for their own gains
That's exactly what anime is. People copying and pasting Tezuka's style, because it's easy to have semi-trained Korean animators busting out frame after frame at a low budget.
>Hate my own artwork
>See this thread
>Compare work from 6th grade to now
>Thank Xenu that it's better than this shit
Thank you anon.
The worst part is that they also turn all women into shortstacks with baby proportions and all the lovely and subtle shapes of the body are discarded with hate in favor of gelatinous, almost feature-less blobs.
It's so fucking antiaesthetic
i've always been chubby.
i draw thin girls too, but all my friends like butts and thighs, so i draw that more often
I did this thing 3 years ago out of boredom.
Did I do decent /co/?
couldnt be bothered to shade and add a background
because when you learned with a pencil and a paper for many years a tablet means a relearning from scratch, since the eye/hand coordination is totally different? It goes the same with many people who learn with a tablet first, but are unable to make a circle with a pencil. Tool specialisation is a thing. You are supposed to avoid it but sometime you just don't see the time go and ends up stuck in a way or another.
I never really finished either of them.
As for dates
>really don't know actually
I'm still trying to learn, but I'm glad I've improved.
Maybe not as much improvement as I'd hoped but still, could be worse
I think I've gotten worse over the years.
Back when I was really into Teenage Robot.
I don't actually care anymore. Every now and then I do a piece for fans, but that's about it.
Plus, I have a life.
>inb4 saying this on 4chan.
You like bulges anon?
Literally no improvement. BRB committing Kotaku
>Daft Punk Interstella 5555
My nigga, my nigga, my nigga
Those are pretty much all things that break the mold. It would be like saying all cartoons use this geometric thick line style and refuting it with Avatar and NickTMNT: the most cookie cutter bad cartoons use the geometric style, the good ones break the mold (or set the trend in the first place, like PPG or Dexter's Lab).
I don't think so. You can always improve if you study anatomy and gesture and stuff like that. These artists seemed to have just settled for what their current skills were and rolled with it, without trying to change, they probably never got critique.
>want to get better at drawing
>read up on loomis and some other gesture book
>my figures aren't great, but I've reached a point where I need to just practice
seeing these threads terrify me, /co/, I really hope to god I don't get complacent and become a hack
There you go.
I just had a fish around old dA accounts. I might try redoing the 2012 girl (And the other one that went with it.)
>mfw they were actually $50 a piece commissions.
Haha some anime still has three shades of skintone... the hentai, where the highlight is used as a dot of boob shine and in every other place they want the viewers to look at most.
I need to get back on the horse, haven't painted anything in days.
I stopped drawing over 5 years ago because of these threads. I delete any of my old art my mom scans. Somehow my ability does grow without practice but my patience is damn near gone so everything I do doesn't get over 5% done.
There are more, just search around.
I thin it's this one.
Can't seem to find the text that goes with it, but I believe he came to start thinking his cats were watching him as his schizophrenia progressed.
I don't think he is. I think I improved and I normally go all out with doodling for 1-3 months and then stop for half a year.
The reason that says 2013 on the right is because I haven't drawn anything in one year and 3 months.
fuck, I digged up the very first "digital art" (as in, not using MS Paint) I ever tried to draw and drew something fast (heh) with no effort whatsoever to see how it compared to me nowadays.
yes I used to draw Sonic that badly only two years ago.
no I'm not proud of this.
I can totally understand this. I can practice non-stop for a year with little to no noticeable progress, take a 6 month break and have improved by leagues just by observing.
Not really a "Draw this again" thing, but I took two of my pieces that happened to be of the same character and stuck them in.
The formatting is shit because fuck memes
I thought the Miku that won was really cute, but the pet bunny was disappointing. I do think the owl would have went with the wizard/witch design nicely. I kind of think they only wanted to pick people in Japan for the contest though. I wonder if all the entries they chose for this year's Miku were all Japanese.
>literally every western artist with any skill can draw anime characters.
Sure, then we got the aberrations known as OEL manga. Specially the horrid shit marvel put out on its mangaverse.
I think the artist might start grasping what shading is in about 6 years given the progress trajectory.
left is from 2012 right is from 2014.
I think I've improve a little.
I just noticed I fucked up the text at the top.
Thanks, it was honestly a challenge to actually make it look like the artist and keep it looking shitty. It hurt to draw.
I don't really draw much anymore, but I still doodle. I didn't redraw a specific character, but they are both drawn in the vain of Dragonball Z. The one on the left was from last week.
The one on the left actually isn't all that bad, it has a neat sharp style too it! I'm not sure if it's stayed due to the one on the right being a much closer shot, but good job on the improvement still!
Used to do some
DA tourneysand I can't believe I thought I had a chance with that shit. Still, this is one of my favorite characters from those days.
I practice often, but I never finish anything I draw. Like, I rarely get to coloring, let alone drawing an entire scene. So while I've noticeably improved over the years, I don't have anything complete enough to do one of these "Draw it again" things for. Feels bad.
>1) people can draw in different styles, literally every western artist with any skill can draw anime characters
bull shit, that belief leads to tons of fauxnime garbage and "how to draw manga" books were the result is worse than a palcomix pokeporn. story.
Pretty close, anon. Lightning struck the electrical lines in my backyard one night while my computer was on. The electrical surge caused my hard drive to completely fry and it couldn't be saved. I had just lost my job, so I couldn't afford a new one.
>Search "draw this again meme" on dA
>Nothing but generic animu weebshit and furshit
I don't know what I was expecting.
There is actually a pretty good case that the change may not have to do with shizophrenia as much as people think. Especially since he drew completely normal cat pics while still drawing those later ones.
>tfw find threads like these
>all I do is doodle and never really draw
>will never improve beyond doodling
Should I aim higher, or just get better at doodling?
all those weird people who absolutely can't draw who just do giant-feet-being-tickled
there are so many of them and they're all equally bad, it's amazing
foot fetish shit tier fetish so is scat
>I changed the style but did fuck all to my fundamentals
both sides are cherry picking
There literally tons of manga/comics anime/cartoons to choose from
so a cartoon from the 80s
whats new scooby doo from the 2000s
a promo picture of rugrats
what good examples
>anime nowadays looks like shit
this paul faggot doesn't try and suffers from bebop syndrome.
Meh, not fond of photorealistic pencil drawings.
And when they start off with a two-year old's art, going through 4 yo, 6 yo, etc. it loses a lot of its value.
It'd be better if they used examples of people starting as adults.
Here we go. Not the best thing I've drawn recently but it's a fairly good indicator.
>Read comments section of something that isn't fetish related at all
>''mmm i luv ur X...''
>''mrrr i want to lik ur Y''
I cringe like someone stuffed a lemon in my mouth
>tfw you basically erased all traces of your old art so you can never make one of these
I don't know if this is a good or bad thing.
Probably should have chose new colors
I want to draw some stuff.
These threads make me really self-conscious about it.
Sorry for the cellphone quality image, but here's this.
Figured it'd be relevant.
I might be thinking of something else, but did you post the pic on the left in /ic/ a few months ago? I remember seeing a thread with an image very similar to the one on the left and the anon who posted it wrote something like "How do you like it? I'm really proud of it". And then everyone told him he sucked and that he should give up drawing.
I remember this thread specifically because I felt bad for the guy.
Either way, fantastic improvement. I applaud you for not giving up, whether you were that anon or not.
Holy fuck. I was about to post the exact same thing.
Okay, first off that's like assuming all gay men wanna sleep with the first thing with a penis.
Us footfags actually do care about the face the feet are attached to. I for one think Peggy Hill is ugly as sin.
i dunno, take versatility as much as i take talent, is doing photorealistic drawings all they can do? can they paint? can they make landscapes? can they do full bodies? most important of all can they actually create a drawing without any reference?
Shape (women's feet have a distinct shape and curves), cleanliness (or just appearance, can't deal with ashy heels), trim of the nails, fullness (can't be too fat or skinny) and usually length.
Of course this all goes in the trash if the woman isn't much to look at. You can be a pretty woman with slighty damaged feet but you can't be an ugly one with pedicure perfect feet.
These types threads actually push me to want to go further at the best pace I can.
I mean just look at how many fucking years apart some of these drawing are. It's like someone who wanted to become rich was only able to get a single penny working for 3-5 years. That's a whole lot of nothing in a whole lot of time. Just imagining what these paces of work would amount to in an average lifetime makes this extra depressing.
We don't let live forever, man.
Left 2008, right 2014
IT'S BEEN SIX FUCKING YEARS. AM I RETARDED?
Left 2006, Right 2014
I crapped this out. I would've finished but working on it made me cringe too hard.
Move away from the anime and learn realism. Then you can branch off of that and make a style for yourself or go back to anime but with a better understanding of anatomy and proportions.
>If you draw all the time, you should be getting better, even if your methods are crap.
if you practice shitty techniques and habits, you end up using them all the time. All it does is make you a worse artist.
Okay I did the thing. It still didn't turn out as well as I'd hoped but I think it's better than the one I did before. I'm pretty sure on the new one the legs are too short and there're probably other problems but oh well. I'd been wanting to try this for a while so I'm glad I finally got around to it.
...but I already hate everything I attempt to draw, and I'm still not getting good at a fast enough rate to not hate myself on a deep and personal level. What do?
... Also, make sure to analyze why you hate the things you draw, and attempt to rectify them. Remember, baby steps. Always think "What can I do differently to make it better next time?"
Seriously though, what's the name of this artist.
No really, I want to know.
the benefits of not phoning it in to meet your Finals deadline at work, I suppose.
>Wook how wifewess my face wooked back den. I wook awful. HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH
>Look at old art
>It's really a lot worse than I remember
>Well that's way behind me
>It's only a bit over a year old
Why did you make me do this?
But it's like, if halfway through doing the sketch I hate what I drew and if I can't fix it, I just stop. There's no point in doing the lines or shading or color for a sketch I hate since my heart won't be in it, and there's no point in waiting to come back to this one sketch when I could just start something else.
The ability to see how and why art, especially your art, is shit, is a fairly good indicator of how good you are when you're starting out. IMO.
Drawing/illustration isn't in your hand nearly as much as it is in your head.
Figure out what you hate most about your shit, whether it's the proportions, the faces, whatever. Get a Loomis book and practice that. And for fuck sake, follow the /ic/ guide. Pic related, look what that shit has done to my art. I'm nowhere near where I want to be but there's still improvement.
Here, I'll even link it for you: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
The most recent one is still unfinished. I've done so many remixes of my old stuff, I love this meme.
For a while you're gonna hate every piece you do. You can see everything wrong you've done with it, and it's a chore to finish things. But after a while with practice and studying, you'll start producing things you actually like. It's hard to get into art because starting off is sucky, but once you gain some actual skill, it's fun as fuck.
Here's another one, also pretty loose work on the rightmost piece.
I that if there is improvement, it's in the fact that I spent several days on the oldest one, and sketched up the most recent in like half an hour.
I agree - I knew less about colour back then (obviously), and my screen at the time was complete trash, so everything showed up darker than it aqtually was.
(I've changed screens since the most recent ones as well, and now they too look odd n my new computer. Why am I so inept at technology :( )
You're supposed to learn by copying real life, right?
As a test, I sketched a generic anime girl, with cat ears and everything, no reference, in what I would call "my own style". But with reference, I can still pull off something like the guy on the right.
Get the loomis books, they are really good, at first I didn't believe they were that good as everyone said, but it turned out to be true, those books are amazing.
Go to /ic/ I think they have an sticky with tips on how to get started and tips for those who are already learning, and just practice. Also know that at first no one really gets to make amazing draws, those come as you learn more.
You should rather try learning not to work with reference all the time, it makes it so that you can't even draw a realistic person without having to look at a picture, reference is not bad, over-relying in reference is bad though.
Learn anatomy, if you already know at least a bit of anatomy then there's hope.
also your own style is spooky.
Used to doodle alot, never drawed properly because that shit takes time. Doodled some shit recently that I thought didn't look too horrible until I looked at some old crap I had on my HDD. I've gotten significantly worse.
You need to learn basic artistic techniques first: rendering. how to depict form. Right now, all you know how to use is a line, that's like trying to build a house with just a screwdriver. Anatomy is irrelevant for the moment.
No, I've had the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm still not a very good artist, but just watching tv, walking around town and even reading books sort of improves your mindset and practice you use when drawing.
Hey, thanks! And sure, although it's full of furfaggotry
I really... i dont... i dont know. I just banged out the snake woman in a few minutes after i got over the shock of the green monstrosity.
Admittedly I haven't drawn this character in years and I mainly draw creatures/animals these days. But this was fun to sketch. I should practice more.
I've still got eons of improving to do before I can make stuff that isn't trash, but I'm happy with my progress so far.
I'm glad he forgot that he was an artist at the end.
Admittedly I'm not that great of an artist myself, but I still put several hours into practising everyday and to imagine losing all that ability (let alone the several hundred hours put at this level), I'd be depressed as fuck.
Alzheimers and fucking up my right hand is what scares me the most in life.
Oh hey, Super Hella Adventure Time dude.
I don't have time to do a complete painting but I threw this together.
2005 was a rough fuckin year.
oh yeah 'tentacl' which I can't use because it is FUCKING BROKEN, and the site is designed for people who already know what's going on, so if you go to the front page as a new user you will be confused as fuck, turn 180° and walk away.
They've been doing GaiaOnline for like ten years now and they still don't know how to HTML.
I compiled a longer version. It just looks like I went from sonic fag to furry fag.
I wouldn't mind knowing how I ruined them, since I've got a universally negative reception so far and I'd like to improve. Was the original badness what made them endearing?
Did I go from so-bad-it's-good to just plain bad or something?
Not him but if I had to guess it would be changing the original beloved ideas at all.
Maybe people are too emotional? I don't know, I think the old designs look fun and the new designs look great. Don't let the naysayers get to you, the new stuff is still very good.