As promised I finished my calculations for the mini mealwork

>>7321794
what do they taste like?

>>7321794
>As promised I finished my calculations for the mini mealwork farm.

Mind to show them OP?

>>7321821
A bit nutty.

>>7321837
and the texture?
i'm genuinely curious about eating insects

>>7321821

My order will arrive the next week.

>>7321832

Nothing too complex.
>https://github.com/TinyFarms/OpenBugFarm/wiki/Tenebrio-Molitor-Production-Estimates

It says 2.2 lbs of feed per lb of mealworms produced. The best oats deal I could find still makes the project inviable. Maybe if you find some cheap oats.

>>7321794
What are your calculations exactly? Are you comparing price per calorie, price per weight? What sort of food would you give them? If it's something you can digest yourself, of course it's going to be a net loss in a certain sense. But the whole point here is to combine certain nutrients in the livestock as well as making them taste better and more interesting.

>>7321821
I'd say sort of nutty, with a hint of grain, maybe almost a little like buckwheat with roasted peanuts. It's been some years since I last ate any so the accuracy is limited. They also take on some of the taste of what they've been eating.

The real highlight of fried insects is the crunchy, semi-meaty texture, a bit like shrimp (which makes sense), but more like potato chips.

>>7321869
By "combine" I meant concentrate of course

>>7321844
I'm not OP, I had them a long time ago and they were dried and ground. Tasted like finely chopped peanuts sprinkled on top of asian dishes.

If you're ever in Mexico have a try of their chapulines. They're pretty good when mixed with lime and chilies.

>>7321869
Wait no what am I saying. They're more like croutons than chips. Anyway, they go well on salads, in stir fries, on pizzas, with semi-firm cheeses to contrast, things like that.

>>7321869
I'm interested in the protein exclusively. Supposing they have around 30% I would need a lb of mealworm to exchance for a lb of chicken in my diet but it would cost almost twice as much.

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>>7321794
What are you talking about?
My farm is doing fine just fine.
Be creative and you will find the right way.

Also, ask me anything.
I know a lot about raising mealworms.

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>>7323839
I'll monitor this thread.
I've already made a huge thread about this on some other imageboard so I don't want to say the same things again, if you are not interested.

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>>7321794
>Gonna cost more than buying meat at the supermarket.
This is a lie.
What the fuck are you using that is so pricey?
My colony costs almost nothing. I need to supply carrots and protein egg flakes from time to time.

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>Farming mealworms is inviable in the conditions presented in the literature.
What literature?
What conditions?

is there any difference between in/un/non viable.

I always read non and I was about to correct op before I looked it up. Now it seems like they can be used interchangeably with in maybe more common for living organisms and non for finance.

Anyone know anything?

>>7323884
Any real questions?

>>7323845
You put in too much water when you boiled your rice. Having said that, how often do you eat meal worms, and do you think they're a worthwhile supplement for other sources of protein in your diet?

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>>7323894
1-2 times every two weeks?
They are a good source of natural protein.
I'm trying to keep some variety in my diet.
Also, I don't want to eat my entire small colony before next reproductive cycle begins.

>>7323893
Hey if the word you use are more interesting than your topic that is on you

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>>7323923
I'm not OP.
I'm some other guy who breeds mealworms.

>>7323936
I gotta be honest the fact that there's more than one of you is blowing my mind.

That said meal worms aren't too bad, I just can't get over the psychological factor once I have a few. Weird me out.

>>7323940
>I gotta be honest the fact that there's more than one of you is blowing my mind.
Entomophagy is a new meme that becomes more and more popular in western world recently. It's like veganism but for people who eat meat.

What do you feed the worms with? Wouldn't it just be easier to eat beans and rice?

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>>7323953
>What do you feed the worms with?
Carrots, oatmeal and egg flakes (pic related).

>Wouldn't it just be easier to eat beans and rice?
Can you see any difference between meat and plants? Rice and beans won't keep me healthy and strong.

>>7321794
it was inviable by default since it's impossible to check for infections and external contamination in a sea of worms. They already have hard time doing it with chickens.

am i in bizzaro world

>>7324024
Chickens are rinsed with their own feces and happen to be mammals.

>>7324035
No, you're in plebeian shanty-town

>>7324129
>Chickens are rinsed with their own feces and happen to be mammals.
>Chickens
>mammals

wtf am I reading

>>7323847
>What the fuck are you using that is so pricey?
not op but see >>7321861

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>>7321861
>The best oats deal I could find still makes the project inviable
Byt a large bag of oat bran directly in the mill.
Here in Poland you can get 1KG of this stuff for 0,097 US cent. Less than a cent. Dude.

>>7321861
>6.4 KG/Month
Bull fucking shit.

>>7323945
>a new meme
It's the way of the future brah
In 50 years your options are
>Eat bugs
>Eat in Vitro meat
>Be extremely rich

>>7324534
You can call it as you want.
The only things that matters to me are that I will allow me to make some extra cash and that I will be able to produce my own meat in the city.
You can't breed chickens in the city legally in soviet Poland.

>>7324129
>chicken
>mammal
you're an absolute madman
>>7324024
I'd figure that given the worms' small size, wouldn't a thorough cooking be enough to heat through any parasites? Unless there's some kind of superbug strain that I'm probably more than likely unaware of

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>>7325380
>I'd figure that given the worms' small size, wouldn't a thorough cooking be enough to heat through any parasites? Unless there's some kind of superbug strain that I'm probably more than likely unaware of

1. put them in fucking oil.
2. People breed mealworms because it's confirmed that no diseases can be transmitted from them to humans.

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>>7321794
>I'll cook mealworms at least once in my life.
finally a human who is slightly less weak than the others

>>7321794
Are there any pre packaged mealworm snack?
Like salted and crispy and flavored
Maybe u guys should produce ones

>>7325615
Tough luck pal.
OP is an incompetent teenager and I live in Poland.

>>7325621
Im in Germany

>>7327320
There is no fucking way I'm moving my ass to Germany until the "refugee crysis" is solved. Sorry bro. We can make business using emails.

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insect recipes

http://www.ent.iastate.edu/misc/insectsasfood/friedrice.html

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Top 11 bug recipes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/10401191/Top-11-bug-recipes.html

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http://m.instructables.com/id/Insects-for-Food-Prep-101/?ALLSTEPS

>>7325108
>You can't breed chickens in the city legally in soviet Poland.
That's why you go into a store or to a butcher to buy meat. Like every regular human being.

>>7328196
Their meat is shit and filled with shady substances.

>>7327515
Surely being in the EU would make it possible to sell a dried packaged meat product to another country.

>>7328215
So you rather eat insects that taste "nutty". Instead of proper meat. Sooner or later you'll look back and laugh about that.

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http://www.eatgrub.co.uk/recipes/mealworm-satay-sauce/

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http://www.eatgrub.co.uk/recipes/mealworm-flapjacks/

>>7328228
I can sell them to you as fish bait or pet food.

>>7328231
That is true. At least I know what's in my meat.

If you don't like "nutty" taste, get crickets. You can change their taste by changing their diet.

I don't want to get cancer from eating meat from a store.

>ITT: severely, borderline-non-functioning autistic dudes think it's okay to have a colony of insects in their closets as a food source

sure "it's just food," but good luck with any person that expects you to hold to anything remotely resembling social norms

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>>7328253
I have a gf and she is ok with this.
Stop being a closed minded asshole or move to /pol/. Thanks.

>>7328235
>That is true. At least I know what's in my meat.
So how about vegetables. How do you do that? Or stuff like wheat?

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>>7328253
Do you think Asians have "anything remotely resembling social norms"?

>>7328268
no she isnt

>>7328282
I move my ass to the village near my city and buy vegetables from a trusted farmer I know. He also delivers them to your home if you order in bulk.

>>7328301
>trusted farmer
Explain.

And stuff like sugar or flour?

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1468268424/l-i-v-i-n-hive/description

>>7328298
Yes she is.

>>7321794
Grasshopper is actually pretty good if you fry it in sesame oil and soy sauce

>>7323961
>Rice and beans won't keep me healthy and strong.

But they will

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>>7328310
>And stuff like sugar or flour?
I don't use sugar.
I get my flour from a mill that is located near my city.

Deal with it.

>>7328323
So you go through all that stuff but going to a local farmer to buy meat is a big deal for you?

>>7328318
But they won't.

http://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/

>>7328325
I will buy pig meat from time to time, but having your own source of protein in your home is more convenient.

>>7328332
but you're eating worms you fucking goon

why not just raise chickens/eggs?

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>>7328310
I'm thinking about starting a small colony of Stevia plants. That should give me a way to sweeten my dishes without using sugar.

>>7328344
>why not just raise chickens/eggs?
Because I live in a fucking city in a concrete block of flats. You can't put smelly chickens in here.

>>7328353
So you settled on worms rather than just finding a local butcher

jesus christ I didn't think /ck/ could sink this low

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http://www.manataka.org/page1083.html

>7328363
It's cheaper to make your own food.
Maybe you don't know that, but quality meat costs a lot. Now I can have top quality meat for pennies.

>>7328363
It seems more like he is doing it because it's "in" now.

>>7328375
But isn't it time consuming as fuck to only eat food where you know what's in it?

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>>7328375
>top quality meat
>literally worms

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>>7328376
Closed minded people will miss the money train and be sorry. Remember when e-cigarettes became a thing? Now it's to late to hop in. Mark my words. Bugs are the future.

>>7328387
KC tier post

>>7328383
It's quite easy once you get the hang of it.
Also, you will remain fit as you prepare your own meals instead of eating shit in MCDonnalds.

>>7328294
Do you belong to one of those demographics? No? Do you not understand what a social norm is?

>>7328394
return

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>>7328395
I'm a white Christian male.
The bible says nothing against eating bugs.
The majority of people on this planet eat bugs.
I'm not a slave to my culture. I can implement good practices from other cultures into my life.

>>7321794
You know you could feed them stryofoam.

>>7328395
Why are you on 4chan trying to convince people to follow social norms?

>>7328394
>Also, you will remain fit as you prepare your own meals instead of eating shit in MCDonnalds.

Wait, did we change the topic? I'm pretty sure we were talking about insects as a substitude for meat and not fast food vs homecooked stuff.

Now my next question: If I buy vegetables for example, how do I know what fertilizer the farmer used? If I use tap water or any kind of water that is, who guarantees me that there is no "shady" shit in it ? What about spices? Do you use spices? Where do you get your salt from? What's with pepper?

>>7328405
But it wont work if you plan to eat them or give it to your animals. This may work if you want to use them as fish bait. Stick with carrots, oats and potatoes.

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>>7328402

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD

>>7328410
>If I buy vegetables for example, how do I know what fertilizer the farmer used?
I drank vodka with him. He would tell me.

>If I use tap water or any kind of water that is, who guarantees me that there is no "shady" shit in it ?
Boil it or use Brita™ filter.

>Where do you get your salt from?
From local salt mine in Kłodawa.

>Do you use spices?
I buy ginger roots and full pepper gains.

I do what I can, mang.
You can't protect yourself from everything.
My cell phone and router will eventually make me impotent and the polluted city air will give me some pulmonary disease.

>>7328388
pretty sure I could go out right now and buy an e-cig, what the hell are you talking about?

>h-hmm... p-people might start eating bugs more frequently, i want to be sure that i'm on the eqrly side of the trend, guess i should start a colony in my closet to eat

sure is some autistic logic right there

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>>7328410
http://sklep.sol-klodawa.com.pl/

>>7328429
>pretty sure I could go out right now and buy an e-cig, what the hell are you talking about?
Read TTIP fag. Tobacco industry will force USA and EU to fuck up this market.

>>7328432
Is that salt in a -plastic- bag?

>>7328429
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-fly-farm-idUSKBN0F72FU20140702

>The European Commission is relaxing rules to allow the inclusion of insects in poultry and pig feed from 2015, while the U.S. Food and Drug Administration is considering an application from U.S. company EnviroFlight to sell livestock feed made from insects.

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>>7328446
Yes, rock salt, 100% pure.
The product hasn't changed since the mine's creation. My grandparents used it, my parents used it, now I'm using it. Using this salt is key when you want to make awesome pickles. Everyone in Poland knows that.

wtf /ck/

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Wow. This thread is really interesting.
I mean that.
So why mealworms op? Why not roaches or crickets?
Is it for convenience or taste etc.?

>>7328452
But doesn't plastic contain toxic stuff?

>>7328469
They are the easiest to breed. You can't fuck it up as long as you supply them with carrots and protein from time to time. You can feed tgem with vegetable scraps and other leftovers. They are also silent and can't fly. Crickets can escape and be really loud. Other specues need some extra conditions to reproduce. With mealworms you can leave them sitting for a month and they will be fine.

>>7328476
Explain to me how particles from a plastic bag ccan affect salt crystals in a dry environment.

>>7328476
The I question translates to "But don't I love the taste of dick?"

So don't these things shit after eating? Do you just scoop the shit, into your food too? It wouldn't be anymore disgusting than normal I suppose, you literal autist fucks.

>>7328513
You do the same thing as with snails. Take them out and keep them hungry for 2 days. They will shit out everything and then you clean them in water. I've tried them without starving them and they were still fine. Do what you want. The choice is yours.

>>7328522
>eating something that has starved for 2 days. Quality food right there.

Who cares everyone goes through his rebelious phase as a teenager, it'll soon be over and you'll laught about it.

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>>7328513
Their shit doesn't have any distinct taste.

>>7328531
They can starve for 6 months and still be fine you fool. They are insects.

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From my experience there is no difference in taste between a locust and a shrimp. Do you eat sea food /ck/?

>>7328536
I seriously doubt that you can just starve a mealworm for 6 months

>>7328557
You can. The downside would be that they start eating each other for water. You can slow this process down by putting them in a fridge. Their metabolism will slow down thus they will survive longer. Check out any guide.

>>7328532
>will eat shit of there's no taste
Literally /ck/

>>7328557
They will actually live for up to 9 months in a fridge.

>>7328388
What, are you about to become a mealworm mogul? Nice one if you are, but right now it sounds like you're just raising some in your closet to be trendy.

>>7328550
Yes but I peel it and don't eat the legs. Can you do that with a locust?

>>7328613
Everyone needs to start somewhere. I will rent some space somewhere else to contain my growing colony. Right now I can still fit to more shelves in that wardrobe.

>>7328619
Yes. Put them in a colander after frying and shake them. Wings and legs will come off.

>>7328622
I want you to sell them as organic artisanal mealworms, mostly because I want to see that on a label.

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>>7328642
>organic artisanal mealworms
There are many people who already does that.

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>>7328642

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>>7328642
The list goes on.

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>>7328642
This one is from UK.

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>>7328642
You know what's cool?
You can sell their shit as 100% organic fertilizer.

>>7324335
Sold as a fiber heavy health food over here. Can be pretty expensive and hard to source large quantities.

>>7328707
Take your car and drive to the mill.
You don't buy oat bran for human consumption. It costs over 2 cents in here per kilogramme. You buy forage oat bran for ~1 cent per kilogramme. Buying in shops is retarded. Do you even know how much money do they make on every single package of this "organic" bran? Get to the source.

>>7328484
Honestly, I've raised dubia roaches for three years for my lizards, and I've got it down so well that I've turned to selling my many extra roaches to the local pet store. It's gotten to productive that they won't accept more than 12 dozen a week to replace their stock. I have so many roaches living in big Tupperware containers. They are just so easy to breed. I have a tank full of cherry shrimp as well and supply the same store with them. Basically, you give them a lot of room, clean up their poop once a week, and give them food, then they'll over fill that room with new babies. It's gotten to be a hassle, and I can't bring myself to cull them.

Maybe I should start eating my own dubias. You can feed them vegetable scraps and keep them in your closet for fucks sake. I see how insects infest homes now. It's just so damn easy. My chameleons are getting obese and my leopard geckos have so much fat in their tails I swear it takes up half their weight. One dropped its tail after breeding and it practically lost half its weight, the poor gal.

So can I eat my extra dubia?

>>7328718
There's this company called Bob's red mill over here that sells it for a great profit. I don't believe if I drove to a mill around here I'd be able to buy it to be straight with you. I love in Chicago, and I have central illinois suppliers for my beef, chicken, eggs, and pork. It's a several hours long drive to pick up my half a cow or my pig to put in the deep freeze and my chicken/egg supplier has delivery fees that match the price of the good itself (still not much more than grocery prices surprisingly). This state grows corn and soy. I don't think I could even find an oat grower around here.

you guys are weird. keep doing you, I hope you don't die.

>>7328750
http://arachnoboards.com/threads/entomophagy-w-b-dubia.214129/

>Note: A cockroach's body is covered with a thin coating of wax. In some species (including Periplaneta americana), this wax has a slightly acrid chemical taste that some diners may find distasteful. For this reason, it is advisable to soak the thawed, frozen roaches in lemon juice or white vinegar for an hour or two prior to cooking. This will dissolve most of the wax, which can then be discarded along with the lemon or vinegar solution. The cockroaches can then be incorporated into bug
dishes without further fussing.

>>7328770
Why can't you use corm flour and supplement it with vegetable scraps? How much does corn flour cost in the states? Be creative man.
Everything that is considered to be a waste for humans will do.

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>>7328770
Corn bran should be even cheaper.

>>7328781
Oh neat. Thanks anon. I guess I'll try my first dubia stir fry soon.

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>>7323845

>>7328789
>>7328846
Yeah, I should try that then. But I don't know if my roaches will accept that as feed. Meal worms might, but I'd have to start a new colony and I'm just starting a silk worm colony. Are silk worms edible? I've already got some adults (poor things can't even fly from decades of breeding ) that will be laying soon. I feed the roaches on vegetable scraps for two people. My boyfriend is also kind of interested in my projects.

If I'm doing all this shit for my fat lizards I might as well get some subsistence as well. I have separated some of my dubia to shit their last shits. I'll freeze them then keep them overnight in rice wine vinegar then include them in my stir fry. Might be good. I'll let you know.

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>>7323847
Have you found a way to get them not to pop when frying?

fucking disgusting

>>7328874
>I'm just starting a silk worm colony. Are silk worms edible?
How? Silkworms only eat fresh mulberry leaves.
They won't eat anything else. Do you realize how much leaves do you need?

>>7328875
Make them poop before frying.

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>>7328888
https://theevolutionstore.com/worm-lollipop/

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Take some insect snacks to the party and see how they taste with alcohol. You will enjoy it.

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>>7328874
Silkworms are probably edible but the pupae is usually eaten (might taste better - it's also a left-over product from the manufacture of silk).
In Korea it's called beondegi.
Pic related
They're probably not going to be very cheap for you though unless you have your own mulberry tree.

>>7328781
>it is advisable to soak the thawed, frozen roaches

>thawed, frozen
Nigga what?

>>7328914
You freeze them and then unfreeze them.
Freezing is a method of killing them "humanely".

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>>7328917

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>>7328667

at this moment ..an coffee break

>>7328891
Pop, not poop.

>>7328937
Oh, right.
I didn't. I fry them slowly on small flame. Never gave a fuck about them popping.

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>>7323839
jesus christ

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>>7328857

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Any other questions?
Are we done here?

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What is the current bump limit on /ck/?

>>7329036
Waxworms are delicious. Hopefully they can find something to replace the honey they need in their diets so they can be made much more cheaply.

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They look like a good protein source for a body builder.

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>>7323855

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>>7323839
Finally I'm back.

Can I use all purpose flour as feed? Using human oats is inviable where I live. Corn bran, oats bran and wheat bran is sold as healthy alternative product and ends even more expensive than oats. To buy from a mill I would need to travel 300+ kilometers. Inviable option.


>>7323855
In the tinyfarms' wiki you can find the source saying a lb of mealworms will need 2 lbs of feed.

>>7323847
I pay 6.65 BRL for a kilogram of chicken breast (30% protein). Second tinyfarms' wiki I need 2 kg of oats to produce a kilogram of worms (30% protein). 2 kg of oats costs me 13 BRL. Supposing I use plain flour it'll cost around 4.5 BRL for every kg produced.

>>7329297
Crickets are 20% protein? Fucking mealworms are 23% protein? Holy shit

>>7329452
>Can I use all purpose flour as feed?
You can but it's risky.
Any water that would leak from your fruits or vegetables will make flour hard and sticky, trapping and killing worms that were currently in this area.

>>7329452
>Corn bran, oats bran and wheat bran is sold as healthy alternative product and ends even more expensive than oats.
I know. That's why you need to move your ass to the mill and buy them as animal forage.

>In the tinyfarms' wiki you can find the source saying a lb of mealworms will need 2 lbs of feed.

Never gave a fuck about it. When they fill over half of the container with shit I remove it and add more bedding. They are probably talking about conditions when the container is filled with insects to the maximal capacity and the temperature is kept high. I keep them in room temperature to save money on additional heating.

>>7329452
>I pay 6.65 BRL for a kilogram of chicken breast (30% protein). Second tinyfarms' wiki I need 2 kg of oats to produce a kilogram of worms (30% protein). 2 kg of oats costs me 13 BRL. Supposing I use plain flour it'll cost around 4.5 BRL for every kg produced.

Welp, I already told you that 2 kg of oat bran costs 1.17 BRL. Plus you give them peelings.

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http://bugvivant.com/recipe/good-ol-sweet-potato-cricket-flour-bread/

This is ridiculous.

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>>7329517
This is Sparta.

>>7329488

I don't have acess to teleporter. The bag is 30 kg?
>need to travel to the mill
>costs 120
>mill can send me the packet for 60
>now it costs 5.17

Thats my problem. They send it for free when you buy 300-500 BRL is products. I don't have space nor I think it is a good idea to store 200+ kg of bran.

>>7329479

Can you produce 2 lbs a month this way?

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>>7329537
You know there are people who keep mealworms on nothing right? Give them a bent piece of paper and more food than usual. They should be fine. Of course with no real place to hide, small larvae will get eaten more easily.
Throw any food you want at them as long as it doesn't get mouldy too quickly.
Hell, fill the container with fucking garden earth.
The will be fine but need more food.

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>>7329558
>Can you produce 2 lbs a month this way?
I don't weight them. Right now most of my insects are in a bug stage and are laying eggs. I know that some eggs have already hatched. When the larvae will grow to the size that can be actually seen without a magnifying glass I will tell you how much of them do I have.

Pic related.
4 eggs and 1 hatched worm.
It will probably take much more time for them to grow because I keep them in room temperature. In 28°C they would grow like mad.

>>7329530

Is someone going to erotically eat this from her face and tits?

>>7329566
So I'm gonna forget the theory and just do it to see how much I can farm from a kilogram of flour, maybe some will die trapped in flour blocks but in the end they all going to die.

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>>7329537
I used 2 bike sacks to go to the mill once.
I saved money on petrol and burned some calories. The World is your oyster my friend. You just need to find the right way.

>>7329594
>Is someone going to erotically eat this from her face and tits?

I saw guys putting mealworms on their dicks for pleasure....

>So I'm gonna forget the theory and just do it to see how much I can farm from a kilogram of flour, maybe some will die trapped in flour blocks but in the end they all going to die.

Expect mould and then a lot of dead worms.
Use carrots and maybe potatoes. Any juicy fruit will create an instant death trap for them.
Also, protip : black worm = dead worm

>>7329630
Or you can put the food on paper. Usually it takes some time before they manage to eat a sheet of paper. I also believe that beetles might find it hard to walk on flour. Never tested this theory but I saw them on bread crumbs.
They constantly flipped over to their backs and struggled to turn back.

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>>7329594
Are bread crumbs also expensive in your fine Country?
Maybe my beetles had problems with bread crumbs because they were young.

>>7329664
11 BRL/kg. But I can bake artisan organic sourdough for 2.4 BRL/kg and then expend and extra real to make the crumbs.

>>7329719
>11 BRL/kg
That's stupidly expensive.
Where do you buy your stuff? On a market for rich people? Damn.

>>7321794
Try black soldierflies.

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>>7329754
I believe that black soldierfly breeding machine can't be bought right now.

http://www.kunger.at/161540/1591397/overview/farm-432-insect-breeding

>>7329769
Why would you need a machine?

>>7329776
Don't you need like a large cage for them?
Seems like a pain in the ass to construct that indoors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdPfPDjrcXw

>>7329788
Get a butterfly cage. http://stores.mgfx.com/edsciencestore/terrariums.htm

>>7329796
You still need to literally keep shit in your house for them to mate. Are you sure, you can mask the smell of shit in your home?

>>7329776
You don't, of course. But many people don't know that. They are afraid of working out their own solution, or they prefer something that someone else has made for them.

This sort of thing happens all the time with marketing kitchen products; it's no different than a garlic press, bread-making machine, rice cooker, egg poacher, etc. None of those tools are strictly required but people still buy them.

>>7329788
Cage in the pic doesn't seem very large.

>>7329804
I guess that answer depends on if you are more concerned with eating insect protein or smelling shit.

>>7329739
Found a place selling 25 kg for 5 BRL/kg.

How much you pay for bananas? You can buy a kilo for 0.5 BRL or 25 bananas for 1 BRL.

>>7329809
You don't have to put manure in a mealworm or cricket colony.
>>7329814
http://www.dlahandlu.pl/koszyk/towar/banany-1-kg-na-wage,36.html

3.99 PLN (2.94 BRL) / KG right now, but it's the middle of a fucking winter in here.

>>7329814
>You can buy a kilo for 0.5 BRL
Banana flour then?

>>7329825
We're not talking about mealworms. See >>7329754

>>7329834
I know. I'm saying that breeding soldierflies in home without a hermetic container with it's own ventilation and carbon filter might be impossible (in normal homes with normal people).

>>7329788
>>7329776
>>7329769
>>7329796
>>7329804
For soldier flies I'd just do something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=samyE_r0sXs
Or in a greenhouse

>>7329851
We have winters in Europe. Heating a greenhouse in winter is a bitch and will eat up all of your profit unless you are growing pot in that greenhouse.

Just wondering can I breed the mices they sell at petshops and eat them?

>>7329864
Why the hell not?
The law usually says that you can't sell them for profit without a permit. There is no law against eating rodents. The only problem is that diseases from rodents can actually be transmitted to humans. That's why nobody in the west eat rodents. If it's not illegal, do whatever you want.

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>>7329864
http://www.seriouseats.com/2008/03/eating-mice-can-be-rather-nice.html

>>7329862
Depending on how extreme the winter is I've heard they can generate enough heat to survive.
I mean if you had the space you could take a few indoors.
I've heard people who keep them outside (usually they don't cage them) will have them on a yearly cycle, so I think that means they can live in places with winter and they just return when it warms up.

>>7329883
>I've heard they can generate enough heat to survive.
Enough to survive in a near death state but not enough to make the colony grow. Their metabolism will be slow as shit. Also, any day with temperature below 0°C will kill them no matter what they do.

>>7329883
>>7329894

My family is from Denmark (Vejle if anyone wants to look up it's climate). Even in winter the greenhouse is warm. Walk into it and the first thing you think is "damn, I need to get this jacket off".

Also, you could easily add a small heater to the "bug enclosure" to ensure it doesn't get too cold. You don't have to heat the whole greenhouse, just get one of those heating pad things they use for terrariums/aquariums.

>>7329902
I don't have enough money to rent a greenhouse for my silly hobby. I live in a fucking Poland.

>>7329909

Fair enough, it would be silly to set up a greenhouse just for this. I simply wanted to point out that if you already had access to one it ought to work fine.

They're fun to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww1CAsTvAJs

Off topic but anyone raise their own snails?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a6QKlHhRNw

>>7329932
Nie sądzę.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK9ly9kvZOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVc6w9FnaCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYE0JjHYoQ

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>>7323936
>Don't mind me, just your average mealwormfarming individual

Only on 4chan...

>>7328402
You're being a dick but I'd sure try one of your scorpion cookies sempai.

>>7328576
>being such an autistic manchild that you don't realize how much shit is legally allowed in "clean" supermarket/processed foods

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fucking hell. this is one of the most interesting threads I've ever seen here.

you bastards have given me a craving for insects..

I had a lizard that died and I've been keeping the mealworms since because I don't know what to do with them and I'd feel bad just letting them die. I never considered farming them, I've just been tossing them whatever falls off my houseplants and occasionally dropping in water. I don't think they've multiplied much. How often should I sprinkle in proteins?

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>>7331058
>I've been keeping the mealworms since because I don't know what to do with them and I'd feel bad just letting them die

>>7331083
I had a small plastic container of mealworms that I bought for the lizard to eat and it died before they were finished. I felt weird about throwing living creatures away, even if they're shitty little bugs I'd feed to something else anyway, and I felt weird about starving them all, so I just toss them houseplant trimmings every few days. They're still alive a few months later. They're like... mediocre pets, or a houseplant I don't really look at.

>>7329719
Just go to your local bakery and get stale bread
my god

What the fuck

Glad im rich enough that I don't have to eat literal worms to survive

>>7331101
why don't you let them go free in the earth?

>>7331170
Instead you are rich enough to eat expensive shit that will give you cancer.

>>7331371
>only my homemade brand of Closet Worms™ will keep the cancer away

>>7331058
>>7331101
Freeze them, it's the humane way to kill them painlessly.
Then you can eat or toss the cadavers.

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>>7331407
Buy my magical worms, mang.

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https://www.finedininglovers.com/stories/insect-recipes-cookbook/

>>7331170

This is not only about the money. Eat cheap and you'll eat better. No problem getting something different here and there but I would eat rice, beans and vegetables 95% of the time even with all the money in the world.

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http://www.bio.unipd.it/agroecology/download/pdf/papers/2013/Minilivestock_Belluco_Review_food_insects.pdf

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>>7330765
You can make them really tasty if you know what you are doing.

>>7328447
Why wasn't this already thing before? Insects in their diet should be natural.

>>7332488
Corporations didn't like that idea.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beondegi

>go to /ck/ because I want to drive up my appetite before eating
>expect to see yummy food
>oh look this thread looks interesting

>/ck/

>>7333495
Found a can of this thing in an Asian shop.
I'd like to try, but I don't know how to cook it.

>>7331930
Wish this kind of thing was sold in the states

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>>7324129
>chicken are mammals

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>>7334215
http://jlunjew.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-about-some-stewed-silkworm-pupas.html

http://bertc.com/subfive/recipes/worm.htm

http://criticalmas.com/2012/09/eating-silkworm-pupae-aka-ground-cucumber/

http://500sandwiches.com/post/65327257726/crunchy-silkworm-pupae

>>7333888
>go to /ck/
>expect to see yummy food
how.nu.ru

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/31/travel/china-cockroach-farming-food/

For how long can I freeze them?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAJH1g8YhTE