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Had this earlier today, was a nice American style red ale. Thought the labelling was pretty neat as well.
Followed it up with this, which I'm currently drinking. Great IPA, wouldn't be able to taste that it's 8%. Very easy to drink.
Recently gave this brewery a try again and was blown away at how good they've gotten. Not my pic, but one of my favorites from them
Had a Guinness, made in Ireland now instead of Canada, breddy good. Tried a newer local pale ale and some Green Man Forester Stout.
Waiting 4 income tax so i can take a trip to the beer store in Virginia
Started an Irish Blonde kit from Northern Brewer a couple days ago, haven't been able to check it today but yesterday It already had krausen so that's good.
Just got off work 40 mins ago. Having this, never had but it's a really good IPA. Got a bunch of good stuff tonight, will post. For now I'm going to go cook a ribeye.
Actually my friends wanted to hang tonight, but my gf is working an overnight and it's been too long since I've been able to drink beer and listen to music by myself all night. So I'm choosing to spend this one alone with my dog.
newest big boy batch came in straight from danksterdam lads
Can you believe Florida made the sell of malt liquor in containers over 32oz illegal?
Cool. I haven't seen the barrel aged stout but I'd buy that for sure if I found it.
My experience with "sours" is really limited. I've had Weyerbacher Tarte Nouveau and some goses but I don't think that those are sour compared to the other stuff out there. I'm just dipping my toe into the sour pool.
Allagash White, for sure. This beer is delicious and it is the same style.
It isn't as fruity/orange-y as these are but it's a very high quality beer in the same style.
If you come across any mikkeller. Spontan series they are all real good and in all sorts of flavors. I've got some good places around me in Philadelphia area that sours are always on and I love em
I live in the Philadelphia suburbs so I can probably get whatever you're talking about. Can you make more specific recommendations? Are the Free Will sours good? I've never tried one.
It's pretty good. Not great though. I prefer their porter and stouts more.
got a schwarzbier lagering, a foreign extra stout in secondary and a weird apa (maris otter 75% munich 20% 5% cara 40, tastes ultra bready so far what was i thinking) that i'm dry hopping with columbus and bottling in 3 days
>>7322831 some of the free will stuff is OK. Mikkeller does some great stuff I'm never dissatisfied how close to phila is a great beer shop in Southampton snd malvern and he just opened one in Philadelphia who has great selections.
a lot of Belgian yeast wheat beers are brewed with citrus peel (the whole concept Blue Moon was trying to appropriate). Also, some wheat beers with citrusy hops work pretty well like Gumballhead
New Glarus makes the best German style Hefe I have ever tried, they didn't make it this past year though. Hopefully it returns this summer
I've just never sen someone use 'anymore' in that context
How is it a meme beer? I understand people calling not your fathers a meme but nugget nectar? Are you saying that because it is very popular and has a following that it is a meme? This meme shit has gotten way out of hand. Beer general used to be pure.
You're a goober. I've been posting in beer generals since 2007, and we've always called the hyped up beers that beeradvocate, and later beer rate and untappd rated 10/10 far too often "meme" beers
>ignore any post with the word 'meme' in it
>quality of threads shoots up
Can't imagine why that might be.
This one was a bit of a gusher obviously, stupid me for not opening it over the sink. Beer is pretty good though.
Decided to spend by day off by comparing a stout and porter from the same brewer. Went with Bell's, since I've heard so much about Kalamazoo Stout.
The comparison was actually really interesting. I started with the porter, and it definitely had some malty roast flavors, but was just lacking a lot. A little too thin, a little too flat, not a lot of depth of flavor, just a touch too far on the bitter side.
The stout, I swear to god, is the same beer, just with everything done right. The balance is perfect; it's just a little sweeter, but not too sweet. The bitterness is perfect. The malt notes feel the same, just amplified. The mouth feel is much sturdier, and any sense of wateriness is gone. I mean, just look at the difference in heads. These beers were poured exactly the same way.
If I blind tested these, I would think they're the same beer, just something had gone wrong with one of the batches.
Side note, the licorice aroma is overpowering when first pouring the stout, but goes away pretty quickly, and there is no licorice flavor up front at all.
Something about Unibroue bottling just doesn't look appealing to me. Which is obviously unimportant, and I like their beers just fine. Just something about the way they're packaged and labeled makes my mind think I don't want to drink it.
I wish I could put my finger on it.
Yeah the halloween edginess is offputting to me. That doesn't stop me from enjoying their beer though.
Comparing these is a good idea. The difference between a porter and a stout seems so subjective and the line between them is blurred at best in my own mind.
Bell's is one of my favorite breweries for porters/stouts. Try Expedition if you haven't had it yet. It's a Russian imperial stout and is much stronger tasting that Kalamazoo and is the best RIS I've tasted.
You hate barrel aged beers in general or you hate people buying barrel aged beers and aging them even more in the bottle?
I've only been into beer for about two years so I don't have experience with any seriously aged beers but I do keep my stouts, barleywines, and some Belgians in my cellar instead of in the fridge.
Some of their beers are not edgy at all but Maudite and Trois Pistoles kind of are. Maudite kind of looks like the precursor to Stone's gargoyle mascot.
what's your saison recipe peeps
thinking of trying something like this http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2009/11/hoppy-french-saison.html when the summer comes
eh. the story of the chasse-gallerie is really well known in quebec and i'm not sure it really counts as 'edgy'
old-fashioned and a bit campy perhaps
This was my first beer and is still one of my favorites flavor wise.
Yeah, it is pretty objective. And people will get all huffy and tell you there are clear definitions, when there aren't really.
It seems most breweries' stouts are stronger and darker than than porters, but one brewery's porter may well be another brewery's stout.
Ayy, Harrisburg here. Thanks for reminding me of Troeginator, I don't deviate too much from pic related.
>people will get all huffy and tell you there are clear definitions
Just autists who take the BJCP seriously. It's a document to guide classes in competitions, and one which has demonstrably bad research in places, nothing more.
drinking a deschutes fresh squeezed clone,
on deck: sierra nevada beer camp tropical IPA, homebrewed cherry lemon gose, and a homebrewed westbrook mexican cake clone.
fermenting a foreign extra stout and a rye pale ale.
conditioning an apfelwein
>eh. the story of the chasse-gallerie is really well known in quebec and i'm not sure it really counts as 'edgy'
>old-fashioned and a bit campy perhaps
ok then, I'm just a foreigner that doesn't know about the story behind it
I bought this because the label art is weird and it wasn't expensive. Turns out to be a bretty gud IPA.
But those are what bad IPAs taste like. It's bad to generalize. I've had some shitty Belgians that doesn't mean all of them taste like "typical dirty gym sock piss".
I've heard good things about it. I'll get some of that if it's still around next time I go beer shopping.
I agree about porters and stouts being semi-subjective. Victory at Sea tastes exactly like any other coffee stout even though it's a porter.
>Victory at Sea tastes exactly like any other coffee stout even though it's a porter.
Yeah it's the clearest example. They label it an "imperial porter" which might be the stupidest beer classification I've ever heard of. A stout is an imperial porter, there is no reason to try to describe it this way.
I had a bottle of Briney Melon Gose tonight and it was very good. This is my second gose after Sierra Nevada Otra Vez and it's definitely saltier with a stronger fruit flavor. I liked it a lot and will probably buy more of them once it is released in 6-packs of cans.
Overall though I might prefer Otra Vez because the salt was so strong in Briney Melon. A little bit of salt makes drinks more refreshing but this crossed the line into a salty drying sensation. Maybe it's placebo but I feel more thirsty now after drinking it.
My battle station. If you're not drinking these beers you're fucking retarded
Jopen Ongelovige Thomas
Apparently got the award for best domestic beer so decided to try it out. It's pretty good for a quadruple beer.
(American quad is a copyright thing, it's a dutch beer)
good shit mate mfw im real close to the alchemist but am too lazy to cross the frontier to get the nectar of the gods
also i've got no qualms with drinking light lagers either so i jelly
I'm liking this, but I'm a sucker for fruity hops. Not a huge smack of hops either, ends with just a light dry grapefruit taste.
Both of these are pretty non traditional goses. Try to pick up the Evil Twin Geyser gose if you can find it. That will give you a better idea of what they're supposed to taste like.
I am in Vermont once every other month for work so I stock up. I am not a huge fan of heady topper. Lawsons is the shit though with the fruity tones if you're going to make a whole journey there
yeah. one day i'll do a beer trip and go through winooski, the alchemist, lawson's finest and hill farmstead
all rather close but unavailable in Qc because of stupid laws (somehow it's easier to get beer that's 18 hours away from montreal but in the same province than beer that's 3 hours away but across the border)
It's glued on and all flaky, it doesn't come off in one piece. I hate it. It's either take a minute to peel off the foil or roll the dice and just pop it open and hope the flakes don't end up in your beer. Unibroue is the only decent beer I can get around here so I have to deal with this shit all the time. I can't get it in the 750ml bottles either. It took me a solid 5 minutes to type this, I am quite drunk.
I don't see anything that bizarre. It's lame for them to have so many beers from the same breweries on that list though. There are about 8 Hill Farmstead and 8 Russian River entries on there.
They're almost all American beers because Ameriburger beer drinkers are easy to please.
Europeans have had good beer for centuries whereas Americans are like "oh wow, this pine piss is delicious. so much better than Coors Lite! 5/5"
That's wrong, frankly. Have a quick read of one of the British bloggers that actually do primary research, try a search for stout porter differences or similar search terms on Shut Up About Barclay Perkins.
Americans still haven't really come to grips with the idea that beer comes in different styles. Hence why every conversation about beer is really an unspoken conversation about no more bud light. It's like how you cannot have a meaningful conversation about politics with an Israeli, to them everything is about their persecution complex and anyone who disagrees with them is either a nazi or an islamist. Even when there's no nazi or islamist in sight, still, everything is evaluated in terms of nazis and islamists, and the only way Americans can think about beer is in terms of how it compares to bud light.
I don't think America will be capable of having a reasonable relationship with beer for another couple of centuries.
There are no nazis living in Israel
Doesn't really change anything though, does it
Don't you worry your pretty little head about it.
>muricans constantly shitpost about their high alcohol carbonated drain cleaner
>europeans try to correct them but americans just scream and fling their shit like monkeys
>hahaha yuropoors are obsessed with us lmao!
Not american or european, but can you guys try to keep it all in one thread, at least?
True, Iraq War 2 finally pushed you past Europe for number of wars started by an out-of-touch aristocracy for personal reasons and to the detriment of the nation as a whole.
As for beer, you're only ahead if you're exclusively measuring the quality of your beer in terms of IBUs or kilograms of hops per litre of wort. Then again, given your crippling autism I imagine you're only comfortable measuring things in numerical terms like that rather than anything so intangible as taste.
Pretty tasteless beer, still i did expect it from such a low abv beer that stood in the shelf for a year.
"session" just means low alcohol and that's fine. Not every beer needs to be extremely high abv and you don't need to get drunk every time you drink. Low abv stuff is good for lunch and taste different. Different styles can both be good.
>Not every beer needs to be extremely high abv and you don't need to get drunk every time you drink. Low abv stuff is good for lunch and taste different.
Honestly, if you can't put back three or four pints of imperial stout with lunch, you're a fucking pussy lightweight and almost certainly underage
After dinner dessert. Had this one before but thhis batch is brewed by a new contract brewer and fresher than the last ones i have had.
Love this stout, i can sit and just smell it forever.
all the tanks are full at the brewery. currently have the following going:
firkin of stout with vanilla
pilot system (20gal) arrived last week so I'll be testing it out on thursday. planning on kettle souring then fruiting a berliner weisse style ale
I've never had a Ballas Point beer. Has anyone had Victory at Sea, Black Marlin, The Commodore, and Sea Monster to compare them?
This is actually something I want to do now. I never see Sea Monster or Black Marlin on shelves, though.
Been meaning to grab the other two for a while, just generally too interested in other things.
>Americans still haven't really come to grips with the idea that beer comes in different styles.
Lolwut? When is the last time you checked a beer aisle in the US?
>the only way Americans can think about beer is in terms of how it compares to bud light.
You have described exactly zero of my beer conversations.
I don't even know where you're getting this, you come off as incredibly out of touch.
Yuros with absolutely no experience with beer outside of their own region, but assuming that's enough, is literally my favorite part of these threads.
Was anyone around for the Belgian kid who was all butt hurt when he was bragging about Chimay, and then found out it's available outside his country?
Had this last night. If you like coffee, this is absolutely the beer for you. I like it even more than Founder`s breakfast stout (original not KBS). So rich in flavor. I love the direction Texas craft beer is going.
I think it might be an "experimental ipa". Lots of breweries have been releasing those every once and a while. It means that they are using some new breed of hops that doesn't have a name yet. They're unpredictable tasting since they can't just tell you "this has cascade hops, it is dry" or "this has citra hops, it is citrus-y". The recent Victory Experimental IPA was good stuff. I think it used Pilsner malts so it's very light-colored and has an aftertaste that I'd associate with a lager instead of an IPA. I've had some other "experimental" IPA's that were much less successful though. They're a gamble but can be interesting.
Drinking pic related. Only my second gose beer so I'm not sure what I'm looking for. It has some grain flavor to it while being nice and tart. Salt comes through on the finish. Would buy again in the summer.
Got 3 of these after going through 2 of them way too quickly. Not gonna be drinking them til I'm no longer sick and can actually taste things. Really good, they use Chimay yeast - at least that's what I've been told.
GOAT EPA coming through. I miss this classic label
That's the thing, I haven't truly had any type of alcohol except for maybe some gulps that my parents offered me, one time i tried Blue Moon, bretty gud.
My dad fucking loves angry orchard, I tried it and like that too
I'll second this. I live on the east coast but Firestone Walker makes amazing beer so I expect it would be a nice place to drink.
If you go out on your 21st then drink whatever people offer you. If you're buying something for yourself I'd say you're probably best off buying some kind of mixed pack and getting to try a few different things. Blue Moon is a wheat beer, sometimes called a "wit", and if you enjoyed that you could go to a beer store near you and pick up some others in the same category.
I'll shill Allagash White again too >>7322617
. It's not adventurous or extreme but it is high quality.
As long as you aren't drinking extremely sour beers you don't need to worry about being too much of a hipster faggot. The real neckbeards are finally moving on past extreme stouts and IPA's to the super-puckering sours.
That's not true, I've seen studies that basically show people who are driving this are largely millennials. We're the largest generation in the US ever, even larger than the boomers.
Seriously? To me, Unibroue's packaging is one of its appeals. Reminds me of vintage Magic the Gathering artwork. Cozy and nostalgic.
>it's not a trendy hipster thing to do anymore
True, most craft beer aficionados look like pic related
>Reminds me of vintage Magic the Gathering artwork.
I love that. Anything specific from Unibroue you recommend? I've only had La Fin Du Monde and am looking for what to try next. I like how relatively low their prices are too. La Fin Du Monde clearly competes with Belgian tripels but here in the states it is half the price of the ones imported from Belgium.
it depends on the brewery and the location obviously. not the guy you are arguing with, but I work at a brewery and we get a mix of ages, but I would say the majority are in the 40+ range.
when I go up to san francisco, the age drops significantly... I'd estimate average age is late 20s
I've got some classic Expedition Stout tonight. I got a bigger head than usual when pouring it this time.
I just tried pic related and liked the smooth creaminess, however the taste was a bit too bland and watery. Is there anything similarly creamy, but with better flavor?
no, this beer is hella pale
too many stupid fucking indie beers with wacky names and logos and generic tastes that people tout as the best because they think its obscure
What kind of flavor do you like? Because you're probably looking for the mouthfeel of nitro beer, which I'm a big fan of.
Left Hand is the best purveyor. They've got a milk stout, a russian imperial, and a (very well balanced) amber on nitro. They're all really good, though I haven't had the amber on nitro. They also just started bottling a coffee stout I want to try.
I know Oskar Blues also bottles nitro,but I've never seen or had it.
I don't think many of the beers that are considered the best are particularly obscure.
There are certainly great obscure beers, but the stuff that gets the most praise in craft circles is also well known, and often relatively easy to find.
Trois Pistoles would be a good next step, it's similar to a Belgian quad. Any of the big boozy seasonal ones are worth getting too (grand reserve, la resolution).
>La Fin Du Monde clearly competes with Belgian tripels but here in the states it is half the price of the ones imported from Belgium.
This is one nice thing about living in Ontario: reasonably priced Belgian beers. Rocheforts 8 & 10, Chimay, La Chouffe, Duvel, St. Bernardus, Gulden Draak are all around 3-4 CAD a bottle.
>Troegs' website says there's a Nugget Nectar event in Virginia today
>can't find any info about it
It must have been canceled. The beer is supposed to come out tomorrow anyway.
I think I'm gonna go get a half-price growler fill later at my local pizza joint. What should I get?
1. Stone Xocoveza Stout
2. Stone "Sorry not Sorry"
3. Founders ReDANKulous
And that's after the price hike. They were under four bucks during the summer.
>Maybe the Americans are seeing 750ml bottles or something.
Nope, 355ml/12 ounces
>Xocoveza is probably great but might not go well with pizza if you're eating that. Sorry Not Sorry is a hop-bomb IPA.
Nah, no pizza. I don't like ultra bitter IPAs, if that's what you mean. My favorite IPA is Jai Alai which is extremely fruity. I'm also not the biggest fan of stouts, but I love pepper in chocolate, so Xocoveza sounds good.
That's too bad about Rochefort. Unibroue and Allagash are the way to go for Americans.
I just bought some relatively fresh (2 weeks old) Jai Alai today that I'm looking forward to trying tonight.
It's very good but honestly it reminds me of Victory Hop Devil. Hop Devil is my favorite go-to IPA but I thought this was supposed to be super fruity and it's just a bit juicier than Hop Devil. I like the Jai Alai a lot but it wasn't what I expected (super hoppy and juicy)
I started drinking a little bit after work to relax. Trying new beers here and there not really enjoying the taste, until I drank this and holy fuck it's actually good.
Am I just getting used to the taste?
Anything similar to Dogfish 90?
If it was truly your first
The widget is more of a UK thing. It started with Guinness and others starting using it.
There are new techniques now though that can do nitro without it. The widget is a matter of tradition.