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How close are you to rock bottom, fellow drunkards? Why haven't you gone to rehab yet?
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>>7308378
Alcoholism is the only thing I've found that keeps my mind off my terminal illness. I just want to be a drunkard in peace.
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>>7308389
Same here. If I make it to 2017, I'll be shocked.
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>>7308389
>>7308401
What's the illness, if you don't mind me asking?
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>>7308378
I can't be an alcoholic anymore...

I used to drink an entire fifth plus a couple of beers each night after work. "Used to" being like just a few months ago.

Then I started getting hung over. Not like a normal hangover, but a completely debilitating, like I have the worst flu in history hangover. I started drinking less, but the hangovers persisted. At this point, even if I have ONE beer within an hour of falling asleep, I get a "worst flu in history" hangover. I've used up ALL my sick days and half my vacation days on hangovers. And for what? Not even getting buzzed?

Can't drink anymore. Is it an allergy? Did I develop an allergy? What happened to me? Was I simply rescued from alcoholism?

On the plus side, I have a LOT more money now.
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>>7308414
Sounds like your body saved you.

Was it all types of alcohol or just beer?
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>>7308401
What illness you got?

>>7308406
I have HIV, which I can feel is presently transitioning to AIDS. My complexion has taken a hit and I feel weaker and more vulnerable with each passing week. I don't even pet the cats anymore. The germs, man.
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>>7308418
Everything. At first I thought
>oh, it's just dark liquor, like old people complain about
So I switched from run and whiskey to gin and vodka... kept happening
>maybe I just can't do liquor anymore
So I started buying cheap wine, and it felt even worse
>maybe it's the cheapness of the wine
So I started buying mid-range wine.... kept happening
>maybe just a couple of beers after work?
Literally waking myself up at 6am throwing up

I don't get it. I bought a six pack last Wednesday and still have 3 left. I used to crush those in less than an hour.
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Well I started smoking weed again so now I don't have to drink as much to get wasted. Plus the weed keeps me from feeling so hungover

I wish I could stop drinking but I know I never will
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>>7308429
Sounds like it's definitely the alcohol because some of those that's the only common ingredient. I wonder if your liver is shot have you been tested?
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>>7308424
Wow, I'm sorry man how did you contract it?

I thought HIV was treatable and no longer a terminal disease with drugs and everything?
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>>7308433
>>7308433
Haven't.

What other symptoms of that would I have, though? Wouldn't I have like yellow eyes or something?
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>>7308443
Weight loss, fatigue, weakness. Late stages are the yellow eyes and skin blotches.
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I hit rock bottom and am on the rebound. Had a surprise intervention with my family, got my priorities in line, and have been sober for about 2 weeks now and feeling great. I started working out again and have a job interview tomorrow I'm confident about. We all gon' make it bros
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Is rock bottom going on benders and not sleeping for days afterwards
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>>7308437
>I thought HIV was treatable

There's presently no cure, but you can take an assortment of drugs that help to strengthen your immune system and keep the virus in check to an extent. I contracted it by fucking an HIV positive girl that I had met at a bar one drunken night. She didn't tell me she had it. I legitimately wanted to kill that girl when I found out, but I don't anymore.

Be safe. That disease is not something that only exists in a world that you're not a part of.
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>>7308534
did she know she had it when she fucked you without saying? Because that's classified as assault
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Anyone a student here? Drink about 30 units a day then just take modafinil most days to power through the work. Probably not that healthy for me but fuck it, I get the best of both worlds. Pretty sure I'll top myself before any of it matters though
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>>7308548
I just graduated college. School definitely turned me into an alcoholic
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>>7308495
No... if anything, I've been gaining weight.

Since I stopped drinking so much, I also have a ton more energy.
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>>7308547
I'm positive that she did. She didn't want me touching her pussy with my bare hands and she insisted that she watch as I put on the condom. She said she "didn't want to get pregnant."

>that's classified as assault

Doesn't matter now.
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>>7308524
Good work brother.
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>>7308414
If you drink a lot every day your body starts wanting to reject it like 'dude no stop that's bad ugh gross dude spit it out.'

Most alcoholics power through it and manage to keep getting drunk anyway.
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>>7308587
You fucked her with a comdom and still got AIDS? That's like medically improbable. The rate of straight penis to vagina contraction with no condom is very low.
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>>7308626
Thanks bro, first few days were tough as hell but it got better


Side note, any of you bros done therapy? I'm scheduled to talk to a therapist next week about my addiction and anxiety problems to find some coping problems. I hope it helps
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>>7308630
Maybe I'm not a true alcoholic, then... I have a job I really love, and feel like a total asshole for showing up hungover.
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>>7308378
Honestly, i'm pretty well functioning at the moment. Do i drink every day? Yes. Do i drink excessively? Yes. Do i still tend to my job and my social life as i did before? Yes.

The day i'm not going to work because i wanna drink beer is the day i an hero.
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>>7308643
Yeah and you're doing the right thing by talking to someone. My only advice is to stay busy as you can and look toward to future. Dwelling in the present and past fucked me hard for years.
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>>7308648
If you were a true alcoholic you'd drink more in the morning to ward off the hangover
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>>7308659
I used to, but it's hard to drink more when you're throwing up nonstop for 1+ hours.
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>>7308659
I consider myself a functioning alcoholic and I cAnt dream of doing that
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Congrats man I just had a similar expierence. Keep it up.
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>>7308686
rock bottom is different for everyone bruh
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>>7308686
I somewhat disagree, some people can see when they've hit rock bottom
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>>7308686
Kek I'll agree with all of them except the jack off. I was dead sober in Iraq for months and my only pleasure for the day was the "jack shack."

You'll be able to jack off anywhere after you've cranked it in a 120 degree porto while smelling 10 other dude's shit.
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>>7308686
>Rock bottom is waking up outside

>few weeks ago
>got really shitfaced
>wanted to go outside and watch the stars
>climbed low part of roof to lay on roof and drunk star gaze
>passed out
>woke up at 11am next day to neighbor asking if I was ok
>most of the neighbors drove by that morning seeing me passed out on my roof
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>>7308732
That's not rock bottom, that's funny. I did that same thing when I was 16
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>>7308635
She had given birth less than a year before our encounter. HIV can be transmitted through breast milk. It was either that or I had an open sore on my hands.
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I've hit rock bottom.

I've driven all my friends away because I'm an angry drunk. I abuse prescription drugs. I'm NEET, medically considered "unfit to work". I'm 27 years old and trapped in a rural town with nothing else to do but get drunk and sit on the computer.

My therapist wanted me to start going to group but I decided to just stop going to therapy instead.
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>>7308787
You fucked an AIDS ridden whore with a kid?

>That disease is not something that only exists in a world that you're not a part of.
Yes it is.
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>>7308526
That's still rockin rollercoaster. Rock bottom can be different for everybody, but generally it's just getting to the point where you've either ruined most of what was good in your life, or not being able to function any longer and normally live your life without being constantly drunk.
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>>7308826

Real question is did he drink breast milk from an AIDS ridden whore with a kid
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>>7308906
i'd do it
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My New Year's resolution was to not drink during the week M-Th. I stared it after Christmas, so I've kept to it for a month now. I've even lost 7 lbs and I didn't even change my diet. BUT

>be state employee in MD
>off work since Friday
>no biggie I get to drink on weekends
>today off
>got bored, kept self busy by being /ck/
>find out no work tomorrow as well
>having serious trouble coming up with something to do without drinking
>wanted to go to casino, but I drink when I go there
>maybe watch a matinee, but I drink before and after
>go to my favorite restaurant, but I drink there

Any advice, al/ck/? What do you do to preoccupy yourself on snow days?
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>>7309022
movies, video games, go for a run, cook something that takes a long time
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>>7308906
Holy crap. I now have a new fetish.
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> Be Me
> Prep shift starts at 10am
> Hammered off kitchen wine since 2
> Head Chef comes in at 4
> Obliterated but keeping composure on the line the whole night
> Go home and drink until I pass out


And the cycle continues.
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>>7309022
You work so you obviously have a little money. When I get a free day i will go and hike, or try a new crazy hobby, just do something I would never do normally.
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>>7309022
read this as
>maybe watch a manatee
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https://youtu.be/5IJGGe7SOLs?t=4m9s

shoenice chugging macallan 12yo
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>>7308378
>how close are you to rock bottom
No idea. I always think it can't get any worse, but it always gets worse.

I don't really have anything but my job. I don't know how close I am to losing that. It's mundane labor which is barely supervised, so I don't think the handful of times I've turned up slightly drunk have even been noticed yet.
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>>7309348
if you still have a job you havent hit bottom. thats a fact.
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Stopped caring about 6 months ago when I got diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder and realized I won't be able to die in a foreign land in battle. The bottoms pretty nice honestly
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>>7309365
Daesh does not discriminate against people with AIDS. We have a place for you. Even if you are a homo, as long as you are willing to stop pursuing your sexual urges.
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My idea of bottom is to be at a place where you have no way of making any sort of progress in you personal or professional life, and that has happened because of addiction. Also you consider indulging in said addiction despite all the horrendous consequences.

I'm not there but I was there in late 2006. Dropped out of school, stole from my mother and got the love of my life arrested with me so I was subsequently dumped. Joined the military shortly after and things have been good since, minus a couple hiccups. I'm sober now with kids and a wife and shit so things can get better it just takes time and work and in my case luck.
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>>7309493
Doesn't the military screen out addicts via urine tests? Which nation's military is this?
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>>7309496
US. I got off the pills and sobered up before I left, so didn't fail any drug tests. When I said hiccups after I joined I meant back to drinking, and I never got in any legal trouble again, just started hitting the bottle hard and was able to stop before it got bad again.
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I've hit rock bottom before. Please keep your drinking under control. I went through detox and rehab. I stayed sober awhile. I'm drinking again but I'm keeping it controlled and responsible. It is possible. You'll know when you hit rock bottom and you'll never forget that experience. I lost a decent job and moved back into my parents house, lucky I didn't die or fuck up even worse. I still have nightmares about those days but I'm thankful I called out for help, and I was at the end of my rope on a dead end ride. I'm starting over completely.
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>>7309551
>lost everything
>nearly died
>called out for help
>starting over
>still drinking

who are you trying to fool, anon? Yourself?
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Functioning alcoholic here. Drinking doesn't affect my work other than being hungover most days, but it's pretty menial labor anyway and work is really the only time I don't have a beer in hand. As for social life I didn't have one to ruin to begin with; I'll spare you the details but years ago social life got fucked and caused pretty bad depression and I turned to drinking. Alcoholism has been the reason I've never bothered to try and rebuild it though. On my days off I just sit around the house and keep looking at the clock wondering if it's late enough to start drinking for the day (usually make it to about 3pm). Not sure if I'm getting better or worse, I rarely get shitfaced anymore but I'm constantly drinking throughout the day, pass out about 6am and feel like a bag of beat dicks everyday until I crack open the first beer.
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>>7309596
How much do you drink on work nights? I usually have about a pint of vodka. Any more and I'm too hungover to function
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>>7309609
Used to be 10 or more ice beers, got it down to about 5-6 these days
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>>7309587
>who are you trying to fool anon? Yourself?

I don't know, maybe. But I don't think so. Why does it have to be so black and white for alcoholics? Right now I feel like a gray alcoholic, as I have for years. I tried total abstinence for awhile and I felt just as bad as when I was a crippled 24/7 drunk. Now I drink in the evenings, just like I used to before drinking became a problem. I enjoy it. I sleep well, I enjoy my video games and shitposting at night. I wake up without a hangover and go to work.
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>>7309609
Between 2 beers to a bottle of wine and 8 beers, roughly. Depends.
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Anyone here with liver problems?

I've had to give up drinking as my right abdomen was getting enlarged
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>>7308378
No idea what counts as close to rock bottom but last week I went out.
Started drinking around noon and my memories began to fade around 6 in the evening.
I "woke up" in the late morning standing on a street somewhere in the city with everything gone except the clothes I wore that night.
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>>7308787

I don't browse this board, and honestly forget how I arrived at this thread, but I wish you luck bro. Not everything is lost.
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I think I've just about hit rock bottom.

On Saturday my boyfriend and drinking buddy started getting abusive and I had to call the police. He pleaded guilty yesterday and was released, and now I'm just sitting here, drinking and crying and wondering how I'm going to repair all the shit he broke in the apartment. The landlord knows about the damages, and has agreed to let me stay but I don't know if I want to.

I mean, the apartment is really the last thing I have, but I don't know if I'll ever feel safe here again. I don't have anyone to even talk to about this because no one knows besides the landlord, the police, and him. I can't talk to any of my friends because my friends are coworkers and we share a workplace. I'm legally not allowed to tell anyone we work with as it could mess with his employment, the most I can do is tell my boss if he's harrassing me. Not that I would want to mess with his employment, he got drunk and fucked up, that shouldn't mean he loses his livelihood. I still don't know how I'm going to deal with that, but I would hope I could avoid him in a 30,000 square foot warehouse, but fuck.

I don't know. Maybe it's time to finally sober up and try to fix things instead of diving into the bottle.
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>>7311554
I'm curious about this too, for obvious reasons. Especially how much drinking over how much time caused the problems.
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>>7311678
Damn ....that sucks. But you gotta get out, get out now. If the abuse is just starting it's only going to get worse.

How about family? Any other friends? I really wish there was more I could do to help you there friend. Seen this too damn many times, to people who didn't deserve it.
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I spent over two years of my life as an alcoholic, or what i consider to be one. I would get ass blasted drunk friday night, wake up around 5-6 saturday morning, get fucked on what was left over and make my way to the liquor store when it opened. Sometimes id go twice if i was out of rum. Eventually i started drinking 375 ml of rum a night during the week. Last may 24 weekend i drank 87 shots of rum and didnt sleep for about 4 days. I was fucking out of it. One night i drank a bottle of rum and a bunch of beer and pissed a ton of blood. That scared me sober. Went to the doc for anxiety meds to deal with withdrawls.

im 26.. like i said, i consider myself an alcoholic. My doc said i have a "history of controlled substance abuse." Whatever that means. Feel free to ama
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>tfw want to drink but will ruin my gains
reeeeee
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>>7311740
I mean, looking back the signs the relationship was bad were obvious, but a lot of the time I would just write it off as drunken paranoia or that he was drunk and didn't mean it. When I really stop and think I would tell a friend to leave before things got worse. I feel kind of stupid, because the escalating behaviour was so gradual I didn't even notice it until I was afraid for my life.

I would talk to my mother about that night, but it might kill her. She's worried enough as is, and knows that we've broken up but doesn't know about the charges. I just kind of wish I had someone to talk to about how scary it was. The hardest thing I've ever had to do was go over what happened the next day in a video interview with the police. I hate crying in front of people, and I hate talking about traumatic things. It sucks because I still love him, but I can't trust him and I can't live in fear. I'm never going to let anything like that happen to me again.

I left a message with victim services, though, so that's at least a positive step. I was told there's free counseling I can get if I qualify.
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Ive been much worse. The past few months I've only drank light beer. Now, granted, I will drink 24 of them on a day off of work, but still. Overall effects are less severe than liquor or wine. Think I found a happy medium.
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I was drowning my pain in beer for a really long time. It got so bad, back when I lived in New Orleans, that I was dry heaving and spitting up blood regularly. Then I sort of got clean, when I moved in with my current girlfriend. But living with your significant other isn't always easy. So I started drinking again. I started hiding how often I was drinking too.

It got so bad that I would open beers when she wasn't home and hide them under the bed, so I could drink them while she was asleep without waking her up by cracking them open. I was also drinking very watery vodka from a sports bottle regularly.

Then, one night when she was out with her friends, I got so drunk that I broke my brand new cell phone. She tried to call me, crying. No answer, of course. Eventually, she came home and tried to talk to me, but I was blind drunk. One of her best friends dropped the bomb that they're moving away and she was heartbroken. Meanwhile, I was too drunk to comfort her.

I woke up the next day and my phone was fucked, costing me $150 to fix. Not to mention how furious and hurt my girl was.

So since then, I've been sober. Granted, it's been less than two weeks... but for me, that's huge.


I've done a lot worse things while drunk. I've driven drunk an embarrassing number of times. I've pissed my bed and other people's beds... a lot. I e-mailed my ex and told her that I love her, which I don't. I whipped my cock out and sprayed piss all over the kitchen once. And when my sister tried to stop me, I pinned her against the wall and tried to choke her. Then I went around the house unplugging all the electronics, saying that we were being spied on.

I also got frostbite once while drunk, carrying frozen chicken and a six pack of beer in a closed line for almost an hour at an overnight Walmart.

It's funny that I never touched a drink while I was underage, but I became a heavy alcoholic from the day I turned 21 onward. I'm nearly 30 now and I feel like maybe I can stay sober.
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>>7312056

We'd get along well along. I feel your pain
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>>7312056
I've pissed the bed, too, and it's so fucking embarrassing. I hope things get better for you, and I hope you can stay sober. It's going to be okay.
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2nd day out of detox. Was drinking 750ml of rum/whiskey a day for 5 years. The last month was drinking 1500ml a day

Dr's couldn't understand how I wasn't kill....I told them I was a line cook/quasi-sous chef....he, went "ahhh, it all makes sense now"
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>>7312040
>I will drink 24 of them on a day off of work
lol'd
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I enjoy these threads. I like alcohol, I dont drink unless someone buys me a shot, or I have to drink with my girlfriends dad or someone else offering a small amount. Its just respectful.

You give me some good advice for helping my alcoholic friend.
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>>7312096
Detox is good but rehab is better. Gives you some time being sober in a simple and easy environment. Anyways best of luck to you.
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>>7312090
The first night I ever spent with my girlfriend, I pissed myself. We were sleeping on the floor at a party, but I had to come up with a bullshit excuse about why my wallet was wet when I drunkenly drove her to breakfast in the morning.

Then I pissed the bed we were sleeping in and it was a cheap memory foam mattress. Literally half of the bed was soaked in urine. She rolled over in the night and felt something wet. I tried to pass it off like I didn't know what it was and didn't remember peeing, so maybe she did it. But it became clear that it was me. That was almost two years ago and I swore to her that I would never piss the bed again. She even bought me adult diapers. Not even as a joke, she just didn't want me to pee in the bed anymore.

But I did a few times more. Sometimes I would forget to put on a diaper because I was so drunk. Sometimes I would be too drunk to put the diaper on correctly.Sometimes I would just piss so much that it spilled out of the diaper.

But, being an addict with no heart, I always found a way to cover it up. I've pissed the bed with my girlfriend in it four times since I promised her I wouldn't anymore. And each time I've been able to hide it.

My go-to trick is waking her up with a massage and using a fuckton of lotion. That way, when she rolls over in bed and feels damp, she'll just think it's lotion.

Oh, I also clogged a hotel bathroom sink with vomit once lol
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>>7308635
Yeah this is bullshit. Typical closet homosexual is my guess.
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>>7312086
I always get along best with alcoholics and addicts.
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>>7312121

Im a male bulimic and alcoholic. The struggle is real mate
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>>7308752
You think anyone in this thread is younger than 20?
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>>7312122
I struggled with eating disorders when I was younger. No one wants to believe you can still be overweight/muscular and still have an eating disorder, especially if you're a dude.

I had a bulimic girlfriend and I started purging with her just to try it, just so she'd like me more. And then I got addicted to that. At the time I was thin, although I'm not anymore. The worst thing I ever did with food was starve myself for three days, then go to a Chinese buffet and eat until I was sweating grease. I didn't even make it home before I had to pull over and vomit. The tears in my eyes and nasty taste in my mouth were like liquor to me.

Then I started drinking again, after she and I broke up, and liquor became like liquor to me.
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>>7312117
When I pissed the bed, I sleeping in a tent with my boyfriend in a friend's backyard because he had been kicked out of his mother's house after he called her a cunt. His mother is a crazy bitch, anyway, and we weren't drinking heavily or every night when we were living there, she just literally couldn't stand to have him there anymore. She even said I could stay because I was having a housing crisis.

We ended up having to hose down and scrub an air mattress and tent in full view of neighbours with nothing but the hand soap that we owned. I haven't pissed the bed since, but I have pissed myself once. I overestimated my bladder and it just started coming out while I was having a cigarette outside. I've been trying to be a functional alcoholic, and maintain my job, but with all that's happened recently all I want to do is stay at home and be out of my mind. It's probably best for both of us to face up to the awful shit now and stop before we really injure ourselves and ruin our lives.
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>>7308389
me too....as long as we can consider being NEET a terminal illness.
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>>7312152
I was a NEET for three years after high school and didn't have even a sip of alcohol until I moved out on my own and saw firsthand how fucked up and difficult the world can be.

Stay in your bubble, anon. It's safe in there. But maybe you're a better person than I am. Maybe the rat race will distract you from your pain.
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Does anyone else mix chewable vitamins with their booze?
I don't even know why I do this, but if I'm drinking directly from the bottle, about halfway through when I'm already drunk, I'll start dumping in Flinstones chewables.

Is this something that alcoholics do or am I just a drunk retard?
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>>7311769
You are me. Done the detox too many times. I drank a 375 of gin in 24 hours this hour just not to feel anxious and that's tapering me off by little sips. Didn't sleep lastnight, I was dry heaving today at work.. There's nothing romantic about being a drunk. My mother found my empties stash and asked me today if I have a problem. Fuck me man
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>>7312203
that's just reatrded. p sure the vitamins will just run through you if you don't have food in your stomach/if yr liver is working on alcohol.


i used to drop swedish fish in my cheap beer. wasn't bad.

like a brass monkey....but a pbr cordial.
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>>7308378
>Why haven't you gone to rehab yet?
Because of my alcoholism I might be going to prison in a few months anyways

I'm going to drink up while I can.
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>>7312225
Trust, you don't have to tell me how retarded it is. It's something I do once I'm already drunk, so the fact that it doesn't make any sense doesn't matter. I was just wondering if anyone else does that, trying to understand it and feel like less of an idiot.
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>>7312113
>Detox is good but rehab is better.

Thanks, it isn't an option unfortunately. Rent, heat, etc... for the family
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>>7312220

Youre right, it isnt romantic. Its really lonely. No one but my best friend, a fellow drunk, knows about what i do. I downplay how much i actually drink too. No one is there when im up for days with my heart racing. Its just me and my thoughts. I hate it.


The terrible thing is, after being sober for a while... i miss it. I thought getting sober would make me happy. It didnt.
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Went to my first AA meeting on Sunday. Was drinking before I went, and as soon as my friend dropped me off I waited for her to drive off then b-lined it to the liquor store.

Ruining my relationship, I'm always so full of embarrassment when I wake up and see the messages I sent to people on one of my benders.

I've cut bak on the days I drink but now when I drink it'll be 3 days of every waking minute drinking, passing out on the couch and neglecting all the house work.

At work now with the shakes barely able to keep ginger ale down. I'm the assistant manager at a liquor store and pretty much when my stomach settles I'll sneak a half micky of fireball and chug it in the bathroom to level out.
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>>7312247
I feel you. I'm >>7312220

I had a seizure before and I'm terrified to have another one. I work with my family and it's hard to hide the fact that I was so fucking sick today because I've been drunk every day since Thursday. I'll get sober for a time and then it's someone's birthday or an event. My boyfriend has started joking with me to put the bottle down and that I can drink as much as him. I used to pride myself on it like an idiot. It's just fucking sad. I KNOW it's a problem. Anyone else's liver hurt from time to time? I'm tapering so no shots until after midnight and hopefully I can sleep tonight
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>>7312237

>or am I just a drunk retard?

don't ask a question if you don't want it answered.

people with aspergers can't detect sarcasm.....or rhetorical questions.
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Only drank enough this morning to kill the shakes and anxiety before work in the afternoon. Letting myself have some beers tonight.

My goal is to stop drinking during the day entirely.
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>>7312259

Not too sure how my liver is doing but I get a lot of stomach pains. Luckily it's been since my 22nd birthday since I've pissed the bed (was around 8pm too I was passed out lol)

Im Turning 26 in march. How old were you when you had a seizure? What were the symptoms? I get extreme anxiety about having a seizure, and also just stay awake at night when I'm withdrawing because I'm afraid I won't wake up, I hallucinate at night all the time as well. Probably going to be one of those nights tonight.

My bf does similar, I'm a 5'3" female and he's over 200lbs and in 4 years he's never even gotten close to drinking at my pace.
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When I stop drinking, I start binge eating and masturbating compulsively. I'm always ruled by an addiction, no matter what. Why I couldn't be one of those faggots who's addicted to his job or the gym, I can't say.
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>>7312274
You're a 1990's kid like me. I was 24 when I had my seizure. I'm a 5'9 female at about 145 pounds. I'm going to try to do sober for a while. It's just become more of a habit now. Wine at dinner is usually me finishing a bottle to myself. It's disgusting. Had liver pains all day today, (or at least that's what I thought). Thankfully my girlfriends were sleeping over the night I fell out of bed and JD a seizure. I had a nasty concussion. Idiot doctors at the hospital told me the day before that I wasn't going through alcohol withdrawal. I got driven back in an ambulance with them trying to tell me that it was something else. I'm not a idiot and I don't like being taken for one.
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How much were you drinking? It frightens me that it's a very real possibility of having one. I do feel like if I don't do something about my drinking I'm going to choke on my vomit in my sleep or something.
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>>7311772
welp went and bought some rye, goodbye gains
here i come zyzz
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>>7312383
If all you have to lose are gains, count yourself lucky.
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>>7312390
I can lose a lot more lad, just that's the most immediate thing. I'm not a NEET or anything.
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Anyone found a decent hangover cure? I'm glad I get hangovers that prevent me from drinking continuously but I only really drink on the weekends.
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3 days sober.

Trying to drink enough diet soda and tea so I always have something in my hand and to sip on.
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>>7312372
Daily and throughout the day. A Mickey and beers all day long easily. Then I stopped. I just wrote a long paragraph but this stupid captvha fucked up. How much are you drinking anon?
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>>7312398
Best hangover cure is to chug a glass of water after you go to bed, and when you wake up I've found.
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>>7312398
>Anyone found a decent hangover cure?
sobriety :^)
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>>7312427
you're not drinking enough if one glass of water will hold you over.


gatorade before bed and gatorade when you wake up.

also purge as soon as you feel poor.
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I'm currently tapering. My anxiety has kicked in at different times along the taper. 1pm day one with 10 beers spread throughout the day. Second day was 3 pm with six beers through the day. Still terrible sleep and sneaking these beers at work. Friday fuck up . Anxiety and nausea at 1 again rinse and repeat. I got my anxiety at 7 today and I'm on beer 4


This shit is awful I went to a rehab place one. Was nice but missed a week of work. Now I taper myself off if I fucked up. It's hard and painful and fucked up. Don't drink everyday or binge drink. That's my opinion.
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>>7312424
Mickey, you Canadian as well?
Yesterday was a dozen beers and a bottle of wine to myself. Today hung over but not vomiting violently. Probably a micky plus some beers the day before. I can literally just keep drinking and I won't stop until I'm so hung over I can't keep any more liquor down.
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>>7312467
>>7312467
Likewise and yes definitely Canadian. Hah what are the odds? Yep that's about as much as me. I've been drinking for about 10 years but heavily for the last 5. I'm just trying To wait until midnight to have one last shot. What do you do for sleep usually anon?
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>>7312398
B-vitamin supplement. Alcohol destroys it in your system, so it's the one vitamin worth taking. The shakes are basically nerve damage caused by vitamin b deficiency.

Also, I like citrus flavored gatoraid.
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The more I read, I identify, but realize I'm not really one of you. I am addicted to beer. This much is fact. I love getting shitfaced on weekends, or a good drunk on weekdays. But I balance it out with other chemicals.

Damn the booze gives me anxiety, but combine that with my once-a-week percocet day. The second day after using, like clockwork, it's fucking ridiculous anxiety. So, if I can, I plan a sober day the one right after that, then a benzo/drunk day for day 2.

Then there's the blow, which is like fighting fire with fire. It works, but probably isn't the greatest on the cardiovascular system.

I guess I see it all about harm reduction. No way I'm drinking a bottle a day, more than .5 mg klonopin/xanax with my booze, no more than 35 a week on percocet, and no more than a gram a week without at least one more week break from blow. And, of course, try to re-up with supplements like l-tyrosine, 5-htp, multivitamins, b complex, magnesium, milk thistle, and kudzu.
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>>7312556
>I'm gunna balance out the blow with vitamins
Is this bait?
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>>7312516
Small world haha.

I usually take a bunch of aspirin, can't do sleeping pills cause of the drinking and they knock my on my ass. I also have am incense thing that burns lavender oil and as a ritual it helps me fall asleep. Then go find a really boring or annoying thread on /adv/ and that usually bores me or annoys me to the point I just put my phone down and try to sleep.

It's been getting better, and I have a treadmill now so working out and stuff I'm usually pretty tired near the end of the days.

I'm in good ol alberta. Where you at?
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>>7312562
Nah, blow doesn't need balancing out if you just abstain for about two weeks between half gram. Of course, I purify my shit, so no caffeine overload.
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was drinking about 500mlwhisky/day
started an anti-depressant, it made drinking not the most amazing and wonderful feeling so it basically made me stop drinking.

goddamn how do you guys beat the depression tha comes with drinking all the time?

also, anyone ever have DTs?
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>>7312556
>>7312203
>>7312520
I knew I wasn't the only dumb fuck mixing vitamins with my shit.
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>>7312592
Had a panic attack once and didn't know wtf was going on. My blood pressure was so high I pushed my blood halfway through the IV line. Emts were blown away. I told them that it was probably withdrawal from alcohol and they said no way. Three days later went to rehab after I had to stay drunk all day to avoid it again
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>>7312567
Toronto unfortunately, if I were closer to you id take you out for a drink. How long since you've been a heavy drinker? I'm 5 years strong. Job drives me to do it and maintain it to feel normal (bar work, server)
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>>7312600
Nah, you're definitely a dumb fuck. You're pissing out all the lipid soluble, along with 90% of the water soluble ones.
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>>7312608
Also I thought the devil was trying to fuck with me on my first taper. Didn't sleep that night and everything I closed my eyes I saw people killing each other in Victorian dress. I watched family guy for like for hours than closed my eyes with no dead people present. Worst time ever
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>>7312592
>also, anyone ever have DTs?
It was a really weird experience. It was the middle of summer, sleeping on the floor with my girl, wrapped up in a thin blanket.

And I just could not stop shaking. I was shaking so hard and so violently that I woke her up and freaked her the fuck out. My breathing was ragged and I felt like vomiting at the same time. My heart felt like it was being turned on and off with a dial somewhere. I kept apologizing and begged her to hold me, to make the shaking stop. I felt like my blood was dry ice, but it was probably 70 degrees. I had no idea what was wrong with me, but I realized that I was coming down from some pretty heavy binge drinking and figured I was withdrawing.

Fuck, what an awful experience.
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>>7312610
Shame! And too bad all my family migrated put of Ontario haha.

It's been about 10 years for me as well, 5-6 years of heavy drinking.
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>>7312618
Shit sucks
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>>7312618
my psych gives me clonazepam that i take daily, im hoping it will prevent that stuff
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>>7312610
And I am assistant manager at a liquor store. So I know what you mean lol
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>>7312624
A strict taper would be better than opening yourself up to benzo abuse. The keyword being strict. A breathalyzer can help you with this.
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>>7312624
Be careful with that stuff, though. You might just start abusing benzos, which is a whole different ball of shit. Please, use them as directed. Serious, bro.
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>>7312632
Have you done this?
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>>7312632
for w/e reason i've not once gone over my 30 pills ever 15 days for klonopin in the year i've been taking it, i prob cant stop taking them, but at least im not going up
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>>7312634
Depending on your level of abuse, you can drink a beer every time you reach 0.0, then add increments of time after that. Otherwise, unless you have good willpower, there is the temptation or ignorance to just drink more to feel "fine" instead of just getting by.
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>>7312637
I used to go with a girl who was taking four klonopins a day, she was like a zombie robot. That's what will happen to you, if you don't get off that shit. Pretty soon you'll have to start taking more and more to get anything out of it.
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>>7312632
>>7312644
This is such bad/weird/dangerous advice.
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>>7312648
ive never heard of that either, ive heard of going like 15-10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 beers perday tho
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>>7312648
Not really. Cold turkey, or bezno addiction are much worse methods.

Ideally, you're not too far deep, you can take a low dose of benzos for a few days, then abstain. Why would tapering work with every other drug on adjusting your neurochemistry's homeostasis, but not alcohol?
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>>7312655
I've heard of it, it just doesn't seem realistic. The odds of an addict successfully "cutting back" all the way to zero and not fucking up along the way just seem so low. Someone with willpower that strong probably wouldn't have a drinking problem in the first place.
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>>7312666
Someone without the willpower to cut back or quit will not do it, so...
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>>7312645
depends on how many mg your pills are.... i was prescribed 4 pills a day (2mg total) that's no where near zombie/drug addled.

maybe you were misreading someone that was already deep in mental problems.

even if you take klonopin recreationally just for the high most people don't go over 4mg
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>>7312674
Nah, I wasn't misreading her, I saw the bottles. She was just taking way, way too much of that shit every day and that was according to her doctor's orders. Scared the hell out of me and I've steered clear of benzos since.

Now, lithium, on the other hand... highly recommended
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>>7312674
.5 mg should be all you need to take the edge off of anxiety, but your rationalization is just proof in the pudding
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>>7312645
>>7312674
i do 2mg/day most days, and was not zombie at all, in fact still pretty nervous and flinchy and stuff.

a good way to not get addicted to benzos is stay within the limits of the rx and then use alcohol to cover the spots when you need the benzo lol
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Fuck me, my heart is beating like crazy right now and all I want is a drink to calm me down. But it's been 10 days since my last beer. That's too long of a stretch to throw it away now.

But why bother living sober, if living sober means being in agony 24 hours a day?
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>>7312689
idk, teach yourself to be a really good drinker and not over do it and get the best of both worlds?
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>>7312689
I hope you didn't go cold turkey. Have a beer, but KEEP IT AT A BEER. Then go until your shit STARTS acting up.

Of course, don't get drunk, just brain maintenance easing into sobriety.
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>>7312697
That's too dangerous for someone like me.
If I let myself believe I can handle liquor, I'll end up driving drunk in a blizzard to buy an extra bottle of wine, even though I've already got one at home, because I'm afraid of running out. I'm an animal and a piece of shit.
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>>7312655
I've done it. This is used as a way to slowly reduce withdrawal effects. Which can occur to as little as an hour after not drinking. So you go through withdrawal slowly for a week. You might have to do it again two years but at least you don't have a seizure and die.
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>>7312705
It's been cold turkey for the last 10 days. I've felt like shit, but I've been through much worse withdrawals than this. No shakes yet, but I'm not sleeping yet and I feel like crying every minute of every day.

It's hilarious because feeling this bad all the time is what got me started with booze in the first place. So now, getting sober, after withdrawing from alcohol I'll just go back to being an anxious and depressed piece of shit.

Then, when it gets to be too much, I'll start drinking again. And the cycle will continue. Or I'll finally kill myself.

I had a therapist who used to tell me that killing yourself is the worst thing you can do, so if I need to get drunk to stop myself from committing suicide, that's the lesser of two evils. I still don't know how I feel about that advice.
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>>7312711
damn, that sucks that you can't drink.

I've practiced into being the opposite. I get super drunk, then make my bed, leave my keys, wallet, phone in an easy to find place, leave out some water for me in the morning, then read/listen to music enjoy life etc.

although i used to black out on cause trouble on fb, or piss my bed, and sometimes i still have to delete shit on fb in the morning orapologize to someone.

but i figured if i keep fucking up like this i wont be able to drink, and i really want to drink
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>>7312720
Terrible idea. Look up kindling.

Repeated cold turkey fucks up your brain more than easing off, or even just (non-kill-yourself-levels-of) binge drinking. Hence, you should always taper if you're serious, but it sounds like you're just quitting to be cathartic instead of actually helping yourself.
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>>7312720
took me about a month to start feeling "better". i still feel bad but i've been seeing that it's because a lot of people around me make me feel bad, and especially social media. i've been writing and doing other things like that. i want to make things better. it still sucks but i have to try.
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>>7312680
that doesn't make sense.

no one prescribes one (.5) pill a day.

xanax is more "as needed" type dosing and clonazepam is more take a pill quarterly throughout the day...but still 1.5-2.5 a day.

maybe i'm more crazy than i thought.

can't imagine any anti-anxiety med even making a dent if it was a similar dosage.
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I'm really nervous that I'll find out at the end of sobering up after a month or two I still won't have energy/leaveroom/find a real job/life.
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>>7312734
I've realized that my major tipping points for binge drinking always involved my girlfriend. Any time she'd go out with her friends that I hate, I'd get so pissed off and mopey and lonely that I just had to drink to calm myself down.

But, like you, I've been writing. I turned my attention back to a novel that I started a few years ago. I'm 10,000 words in now and when I feel like drinking, I send an e-mail to my sober friend and work on my novel. Also shitpost on /ck/.

>>7312729
I'm trying to stay sober this time. Really, really trying. I know that withdrawals only get worse every time I do it. But I've tapered off and gone cold turkey, neither method really helps the sobriety to "stick," so I've just resigned to doing whatever's more convenient. Right now, I don't think I can be responsible while weaning myself off of booze. So I just had to pour it all down the sink. I've got one small can of beer in the fridge for emergency purposes, but I haven't touched it yet and don't plan on it.
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>>7312735
Then you obviously haven't heard of lorazepam or valium which have much lower effect per milligram.
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>>7312735
If I still feel super fucked up today I'm heading to my dr for benzo withdrawal meds. Fuck this gay shit. I'm just having a shot every hour and I took some zzz quill. I need some goddamn sleep
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>>7312741
That's the nightmare I've been staring down all my adult life. Before I ever started drinking, I was already a depressive NEET. Then the pressure of clawing my way out of that lifestyle and staying afloat was too much, so I became an alcoholic.

So, I guess that in sobriety, I don't have much to look forward to.
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>>7312756
I don't want to be a complete dick, but if you've resigned yourself to failure at every half-assed attempt at opportunity, then maybe you should consider suicide.

Or not.
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>>7312763
>maybe you should consider suicide
You say that as if I don't consider it daily, anon.
And it's not like there are many opportunities around me.
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>>7312752
i was on valium and lamotrigine, while still taking 2mg daily of clonazpam.

starting to think my doctor fucked me over.
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>>7312756
Same. I was miserable until I started drinking then everything just worked. I would only drink at night but I was more functional and happy. Then I got really addicted and went on a 5 month bender where I was never completely sober and almost died at the end. Went through detox and therapy, stayed completely sober for four months. The whole time I was a wreck, couldn't leave the house or find a job. I said fuck it and started drinking responsibly at night. I hope it's just me but I'm doing much better now, for me being 100% clean was just as debilitating as being drunk 24/7. Shits not great but I'm not miserable anymore, I'll just have to keep it under control.
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>>7312774
Your last line is case-in-point you resigning yourself to failure. Seek therapy or death.
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There was a great documentary about uk alcoholics I wish I could find again. One guy spent hours slowly cooking a big fry up while drinking heavily, talking about how good it was going to taste - beans, sausages, tomatoes, bacon, mushrooms etc all ended up in one big pan. When it was ready he burned his hand picking up the pan and it all went on the floor.
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>>7312783
>lamotrigine
I still haven't gotten a straight answer from my doctors regarding what this shit is supposed to do. I've heard various descriptions of what it's supposed to be, none of them make any sense. Maybe you can clarify for me, since you're taking it too.
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>>7312783
>starting to think my doctor fucked me over.

Yes. Doctors, especially the majority of GPs, are shit.
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>>7312788
Meh. Therapy is tiring and I never get anything out of it. I'm manipulative and mean, so I take pleasure in toying with counselors. It makes me sound like some sort of Hannibal Lector sociopath, but really I'm just an asshole.

As for death, there are people who love me. I can at least lie to them and say that I'm happy, as long as I'm still alive.
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>>7312790
is that supposed to be a metaphor or just a sad story about a drunk brit not getting to eat his fry up?
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>>7308816
You sound like an insufferable faggot, control your anger you idiot.
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>>7312799
Yes, have an excuse for everything then sit in limbo. Now I legitimately want you to die. Those who determine that they cannot change are already dead.
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>>7309022
Go fishing
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>>7312805

Tragicomic desu. You were rooting for him to complete the cooking and get to eat it, but at the same time seeing him swig from a vodka bottle you knew a fuck up was on the cards.
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>>7312810
What's your point? You sound like a self-righteous cunt with about as much going for him as me. Meanwhile, I'm not going around telling people they should kill themselves.
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>>7312822
Just calling out bullshit as I see. Yeah, you fuck up, but if you stay down in that hole instead of getting back up, then you may as well off yourself instead of delaying the inevitable.
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>>7312792
mood stabiliser/anti-psychotic.

not diagnosed with bipolar disorder...which seems to be the go to nowadays.

my issues are all pathological/histrionic. i have ptsd, anxiety, and depression.

lamotrogine made me feel a lot more sound, but the side affects were too much for me to handle. took at least a month to ramp up to my dose. had to take it at night so i could sleep off the dizziness/doublevision/headaches.

if i missed a dose by a couple hours i would have double vision for a day. and being crazy, whenever it started to do it's job i would think that i was "cured" and then drop it cold turkey.

after doing that four times my doctor sat me down and said that he couldn't prescribe it to me anymore because if i was "crazy" it's one thing but if i was having seizures because of the meds it would be on him. so i stopped.

it's still the best/worst drug that i tried.

i'm off everything right now. depressed, hallucinating and NEET but at least i feel like myself and am able to have dreams and think.
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>>7312799
>Im manipulative and mean
Why?
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>>7312837
I was taking lithium and lamotrogine for borderline personality disorder with klonopin to help me sleep. i felt like shit and tried to kill myself one week into it, after that i sort of evened out. Still went nuts and started a new life with a new identity in indiana after weaning off my meds, so i don't know if that means they worked or didn't work
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>>7312841
I wish I knew. It's the only way I can really keep myself entertained anymore when I'm around people. If you're in my world, you're either there because I hate you and enjoy tormenting you or because I worship you and want to see how much I can get away with by tormenting you.

It's fucked up and lonely. I'm just always bored. Always, always bored. Even if I'm currently doing something, I have to be doing something else at the same time. And I have to do bad things to excite myself. I'm a piece of shit and I know it. I wish I could be someone better than I am.
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>>7312117
Is your name Jarrett?
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Sober 7 months, think about killing myself every day.
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When I lived in the city I drank every night cuz I was miserable. Then I found xbox and that helped but when I moved away was when the magic happened. I don't drink when I have work the next day and now I try to only drink on Saturday night. Usually the first night not drinking is the hardest but after a while and work towards small goals little by little you find you enjoy waking up the next day clear and sober and able to perform great at your job and able to handle tough situations with a clearer mind. If you can do 3 weeks without drinking on "school nights" you'll come to prefer saving that sweet burn of crown royal for the weekend
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>>7312790

Do you know what when roughly it was on & on what channel?

There's a pretty brutal one that's on YouTube called Rain in my Heart I'd 'recommend'
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>>7308671
I'm pretty much this; I do nothing less than a bottle of red wine and 6 beers a night. then I go about my day the next morning like nothing is wrong.... get home at night and do it all over; 6 years now doing this.
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>>7313121

It was years ago. Probably channel 4.
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> get drunk
> have fun

> try to stay sober
> just get bored, until i start drinking again
> always end up drinking too much too often
> decide to stop drinking, end up getting bored as fuck each night
> repeat process

I can't do this, /ck/...
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>>7313163
just realised that channel 4 and 4chan are my favorite sources of entertainment.
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As your regular 20 year old NEET virgin
This thread is a real mood booster!
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>>7313195
Try grass, as others have mentioned.
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>>7312450
I'm also not drinking enough water if that's what holds me over, to be fair.
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I quit alcohol 2 weeks ago and I'm also on a 500cal deficit to drop 10kg. I'm 5kg down and I already I feel more in control of my life than I have in five years.
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I've had a drinking problem for years but I've always been able to take a few days off each week to give my liver a break. But now I've been drinking every day for close to two weeks. I feel like shit and I want to try to cut down. Is it safe to stop cold turkey for a week or two or should I drink myself down?
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>>7308414
Sounds like withdrawals, but then you wouldn't get worse from having one beer. Your liver might have taken a blow and been unable to handle the alcohol, and built itself up again after you stopped.
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>>7312120
Now shut the fuck up
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>>7313550
came here to post this
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just bombed a job interview because i was shaking so much
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>>7308378
>Went to optician to get fitted for lenses recently
>"I'm noticing some yellowness in the scelera, would you mind staying afterwards for a quick check"
>"I think you should go to your GP"#
>one week and a blood test later
>"You have cirrhosis of the liver, stop drinking, we will look for a donor"
>Still can't stop drinking
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How bad is it to drink a beer after working? I work 12 hour night shifts and I grab a six pack at the convenience store. I always feel like an alcoholic. Maybe it's because I'm buying beer at 6am but I dunno know.
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>>7313657
Well everyone I know drinks at least 2 beers or equivalent after work every night, me and a buddy then go to a bar, have 1-2 and then I have a drink at home.
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my fav comedy sketches about drinking from Mitchell and Webb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwXjm64a3QE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-uNmY_ULY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZTiRdcURuI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqztJoME1ww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sH-rgwORW8
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>>7313312
how is it even possible to be a virgin at 20 lol. I've been laughing at the sad sacks in this thread but damn dude, even bed pisser and admiral AIDS managed to get laid. what is your major malfunction, maggot?
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>>7313765
29 yo kissless
>what is your major malfunction?
alcoholic
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>>7313537
Get dr help. I just came back from my doctor. I was shaking all morning. Decided I needed help. I'm chucking all my booze away, I can't be feeling like this anymore
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>>7313788
plenty of alcoholics get laid, champ...
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>>7308414

Its just getting old.
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>>7312892
...Yes, actually.
Who is this?
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>>7313765
>bed pisser
is that my name now?
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>>7313656
good luck my friend
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>>7313656
Jesus Christ Man. I'm always looking and checking my eyes for this. how old are you?
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>tfw hit emotional rock bottom and seriously considered suicide
>tell myself to get sober for 1 month and kill myself if I still feel this bad
>taper down over the course of a month, start eating and going on walks
>make it a month sober, shoot for 3
>eventually hit a year
>working out, back in school, casual relationship
>still kinda depressed, but much happier
>can drink in moderation, but restrict myself to only socially

Take it one step at a time boys, you can do it
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>30
>been drinking heavily 6-7 nights a week for about a year and a half
>usually drink at least a 6 pack of 7%+ beers, often quite a bit more
>keep a lot of beer in the garage where my wife doesn't really poke around
>wife does not realize the extent of my drinking, she thinks i just have one or two beers most nights
>have six month old son
>have a decent career, making just over $100k
>still spend a lot of time with my family
>still doing a good job at work
>no health problems yet

when is this going to bite me in the ass? i know its bad, but i can't seem to stop and i haven't had any real negative consequences yet.
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>>7315195

>tfw I don't drink, smoke or take drugs and I still am an unuseful little shit
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>>7315195
its fine, you have superior genes. pic related, you at age 90.
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>>7315191
Have you ever read "Under the Volcano"?
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>>7315217
no but ive read the rum diary if that counts.
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>>7315195
When anxiety takes hold, and/or you start day drinking.
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>>7313656
I think my new fantasy is my qt normie optometrist notices that in my eyes and then nurses me back to health even though it is hard for her and me and we fight sometimes and i hate her sometimes
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>>7315217
I'm reading it now cause I'm a /lit/ tourist here.

I used to get increasingly drunk over about 6 months to try to work up the courage to talk to a qt on campus. one time i even came out of the washroom after puking and she was like right there and we made long eye contact. of course, you know how the Consul ended up.
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I've been puking yellow bile in the mornings, I think shit is getting really bad. I know I should stop drinking but I don't know if I can.
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>>7308424
u gay?
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>>7313657
my opinion, if alcohol isnt getting in the way of your health + job + personal life, its nothing to worry about.

even if it is slightly impacting these things you can still function and keep up with your daily grind.
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Canadian Club and caffeine-free diet Coke here, I drink a third to a half of the 1.75 liter after work, and on days off it's usually a half. My hangovers are always fairly rough but I wake up at 5 am for my 6am-230pm shift and do it fine, I consider myself functional. Wish my dealer would come through because when I'm smoking I drink less and it really is probably less damaging. I love the taste of my drink. You have to keep it cold. Fill the cup to 2/3rds with large ice and add your liquor to the half way point, then pour cold coca-cola over the rest. I love drinking, I love the flavor, and I recover quickly enough, and remain functional during a hangover that honestly I feel fairly free of guilt over my alcoholism. I'm 24.

What really started to fuck me up was the melatonin. It provides it's own hangover and you really don't want to double up. Can provide cool visuals though if you stay awake.
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>>7313657
>>7315889
The problem is that you often don't realise it's impacting your health until it's too late. There's not much of a nervous system below the surface. Organs don't register pain until they're already fucked.

Consistently doing a six pack a day will definitely get in the way of anybody's health.
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>>7315902
Maybe, maybe not. I Think that's on the high-end of acceptable. Anyway who really gives a shit, you know?
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>>7312790
That's heartbreaking. Mainly because it sounds like alcohol was really affecting something he loved doing, and I know that feeling. When I was living through my peak year of alcoholism, I missed out on so many things I loved, or just wasn't able to enjoy them in the same way. Poor guy.
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>>7315195
No matter how much you make or how good you're doing, you're still gonna get fucked if you're a true alkie. I went to rehab with a guy who worked on wall street and was homeless because he drank so hard. It just takes you longer to run out of money and options if you're well off.
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>>7312273
You'll need some help to get to that point. Don't be afraid to seek it. I've been there...it sucks and I never want to go back. Been about a year now since my last really bad alcoholic period...I still drink, but it's much much less. I hardly ever get "drunk" anymore. My life has done a complete 180 in the past year and it's all because I made the decision to get better. Please do it.

I know it's not easy. I used to have to get drunk in the morning to even function and make it in to work. Now, I wake up like a normal person and I go into work without the aid of anything else.
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>>7312246
I lived with my roommate for many many months before he found out I was a bottle-a-day alcoholic. And the only reason he found out is because I told him the night I asked him to take me to the hospital.
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5 shots this hour. who else here going for gold right now?
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>>7315922
This. I used to love playing sports when I was younger, Specifically volleyball. When I started drinking heavy, meet ups to play these sports with my friends were just excuses to get together and drink. We were terrible at it. I'm looking forward to enjoying life again soon anon.


I picked up a bottle of this today, 3 capsules daily. It might improve over all liver health for me. Today was the first day in 3 days I could actually keep food down and I love food.
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>>7316144
Forgot pic
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>>7316148
Snake oil. Save your money.

>I'm a liver transplant patient.
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>>7316154
How was the transplant? Story needed if that's okay
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What the fuck is it with sleep?

I'm pretty sure I've put in a good 20 hours in the last 2-3 days but I'm tired as fuck right now and I still have like 8 beers left to drink.
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>>7316158
Save the beers and sleep. Drink em tomorrow
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>>7316158
Malaise.

>>7316154
Not really. Some of that stuff definitely helps, while some of it is just thought to maybe help. Your problem was probably that there's a point where your liver simply can't recover. It's more common to lose a kidney or develop pancreatitis first, though.
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I probably already drunkposted this, but you hit rock bottom not long after you start your day drinking. Never get in that habit.
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>>7316158
Alcohol ruins the 'quality' of sleep, because you wake up a thousand times an hour (figuratively) so you never spend enough time in the deep-cycle sleep you need to be rested.

Drinking during the workweek will fuck you up, as such.
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>>7315996
>>7312273

Tell me about getting drunk and going to work. Maybe once a month I'll be hung over enough to have a shot and a half worth of whiskey to want to come in to work, and I never hear about it. How do people react if at all to one who get drunk in the morning before work? Do you get your jobs done? What do your bosses say or what do you think they think?
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>>7308378
I went from 1.75 liters of vodka a day to 6 months of sobriety to 1-2 drinks a day. The key was medical marijuana. The first month was hard, but I recommend Clonidine and Prazosin to calm down your body.
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>>7316190
You'll probably get fired. I only got away with it for so long because I made them so much money I could get away with it.
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>>7316182
one of my least favorite things is being at work with a hangover and lack of sleep. its torture.
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>>7316190
I expect it depends on the job. I'm involved in routine labor that rarely has oversight for the first couple of hours. It hasn't actually affected the quality of my work yet, so nobody has had a chance to notice or care.

I don't think bosses who find out are likely to be tolerant of it. It poses an insurance issue at the very least. You'll probably get a warning each time, and fired after receiving enough warnings.
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>>7316190
Fired. I missed several appointments and lost myself a lot of money. Funny how the job drove me to drink and I subsequently lost that job. Guess things worked out in that regard
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>>7316205
>>7316218

I really am lucky, I get away with all sorts of shit, and I lived in fear and surprised based on how much went unnoticed or forgived. I have a desk job within a high volume retailer and I used to smoke weed every day before coming in and smoke on my breaks and it worked out, despite me assuming I'd be fired for my addiction. I've always been fairly useful but I've cut down immensely over the past year. I still would go for weed over alcohol if my FUCKING DEALER would come through, but I haven't smoked and come in for work in over 6 months. I'll have a drink and come in rarely, like I said, and usually that makes a pretty good day, doesn't seem to interrupt my work, and I do become social when I do so, where most of the time when I'm sober people tell me I'm too quiet.
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>>7316218
I worked in a production plant. My machine produced one specific product. It needed to be operated by three people. One time we bought a case and a half of beer and got drunk during the shift. We ended up breaking an all time production record and received $300 bonus checks.

Sometimes it pays to play.
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>>7316245
>>7316218 here. I basically stack shelves and could be replaced in an instant, so I do live in constant fear of being found out. But for now it's working out alright.
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I used to smoke crack in the bathroom and come to work high on dope and never got caught. I quit that job though to go to rehab, so I guess I did sort of get fired.
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>>7316260
Same, but with booze. They never fired me but I quit to go to detox and get my shit straight. I'm making much less money now but I drink much less and am happier. That job drove me to drink and in the end it wasn't worth it.
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>>7316148
protip: tudca actually regrows the liver, but you have to be sober, so there's that...
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Since getting this job at a convenience store six months ago I've realized how much beer people drink. I've got a lot of regulars that buy an 18 pack every day, and a LOT that buy a 12 pack. If you're only drinking that much, it isn't really a big deal. People can get drunk as shit and black out every night for decades and they'll be fat and unhealthy sure but that's it.
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Two nights ago i got drunk at a bar and drove home. I hit something...I don't know what it was, but it popped my tire and i drove for a while on my rim and completely fucked it up. Did about 600 dollars worth of damage. I don't know what's been going on. I told myself I'd sober up for new years but I've been drinking recklessly.
I go to community college and live with my parents but i spend most of my time drinking on campus because i know if my parents catch me again i'll get sent to rehab. I just sit in the bathroom between my classes and drink on the toilet. I tell myself every morning that i won't drink anymore but the mental gymnastics i go through is so ridiculous and i end up drinking a pint of whiskey by 1 or 2 pm and then maybe another if it's really bad. I can't sleep without alcohol my thoughts get so scrambled and restless at night if im sober.
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>>7316318
Yep. My dad drinks a 12 pack miller lite a night, I drink a pint of vodka. It isn't healthy at all but we exist and it isn't the end of the world. People like us don't really hit rock bottom, we just float through life as functional alcoholics. Some die early, some don't. Oh well.
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>>7316636
Yep. Most do gooders don't realize that most of us alckies didn't value our lives to begin with. That's why we took it up in the first place. Pointing out the fact that we're fucking ourselves is the least convincing argument they can possibly make, yet it's always the first thing they talk about.
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Forget relationships, drink instead
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>>7316318

from someone who thought they perma damaged their body from drinking, its not that harmless.

the majority of really fucked up shit that happens from drinking happens when you drink daily for years on end.

alot of heart issues, pancreas,liver, basically every organ in your body takes a beating, including your brain, which actually shrinks as you get stupider from chronic alcohol use.

alcohol is literally poison.
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>>7316643

The second you start feeling like you might die from chronic drug/alcohol abuse you regret it all.
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>>7316674
Maybe. It's possible. I don't think I will. My death will enhance the world, because my life inhibits it.
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>>7316665
If you binge drink on the weekends like college kids do, it can do some damage then

I guess the binge drinking on the weekends equates to the daily benders
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>>7316643
Make your life worth living. It takes work and you have to actually do things, but it totally possible.
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>>7316674
Really? Because three years ago I observed that alcohol was probably shortening my life. I didn't really care.

But then, since the age of 20 I've been contemplating suicide and only the thought of hurting my relatives has stopped me. At least a death that can be summed up to an addiction will make people feel less guilty about it.
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>>7316318
>>7316636

Yeah, at least that's my experience. I've seen people completely fuck up and ruin their lives/health through alcohol and I'm not saying that my way is GOOD or HEALTHY but, I only drink light beer and never, ever touch anything else. My tolerance has increased but the fact is that the stomach can only take so much beer so it's hard to get *that* drunk. I'm a successful lawyer and I know it isn't healthy, I'm cutting back and working out and etc etc blah blah but from my experience it's the hard liquor that really fucks.

Although I guess waking up and drinking beer from morning till night would kill you too. But that's hard to do if you have an actual job/life. Plus, honestly, it's hard to get that drunk off light beer, especially if you aren't drinking every day.
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>>7316606

Dude, you seriously need rehab. And to tell your parents. I know it's hard, painful, embarrassing, terrible, but you HAVE to tell them. They LOVE you. You cry about not loving a girl? Imagine how they feel about YOU.

You seriously have to tell your family. It will be the hardest thing you've ever done in your entire life. Your ego won't be able to take it. Your ego will fight and fight and fight but you have to overcome it.

You can do it.
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>>7316691
For one to have a life worth living, someone else has to have a life not worth living. There are already too many of us.

Females can't understand this because they're only starting to contribute. In another generation they'll realise that most post-feminist women will have to be like me for our society to have any future.
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>>7316636
That's deep.
>>7316606
Get help. That's dependency and underlying issues you need handled. That sounds like it can get out of control fast
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>mfw in constant fear of liver failure but no idea if I'm close to it or not
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I partied a lot in my teens but never came close to rock bottom. I got in trouble a couple times and had to go to AA meetings. Some of those stories were pretty sad.

I'm in school now and I have a decent job. I still drink every other weekend or so but its not debilitating. Never was, really. I see a lot of my friends going down a pretty dark road and I'm kinda scared to see what's gonna happen to them in the next 5-10 years.
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>>7316787
Fuck off. You sound like you belong in Tumblr.
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>>7316792
You have no idea the things that I've done or the shit that I've been through.

It's a miracle I'm still alive with all the fucked up shit situations I've been in and going to jail 4-5 times is probably why I'm here today.

Compared to my friends though, I'm doing pretty well for myself. Sorry if my problems aren't as hardcore as yours, bro.
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>>7316796
Uh huh.
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>>7316801
whatever dude. I was talking to the other guy who said he doesn't have a problem and enjoys these threads to get advice for his friends who DO actually have a problem. And I have a lot of those friends.

Sorry if I'm not alkie enough for your little club. I just like to help people when I can.
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>>7312103
I guess I should have replied to the post I was referring to but still. No need to be a dick. If someone thinks they have a problem (which I don't) you shouldn't tell them to go away.
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>>7316807
Keep going.
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>>7309338
i wonder if shoefriend would ever browse al/ck/
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>>7316728
I feel you.
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Today I compulsively went to the store to buy a 40 because my emotions were irrational. All they had was bud light.
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hello firends it is currently 10:33am aussie lasnd time and im pretty drunky poo

I hope yoiu all have a good day/night my friends
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Saw yesterday that my liquor store has a small selection of grappa brandies.

Is grappa good? What does it taste like compared to cognac?
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>>7318949

grappa is fkin shit

t. german
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>>7316606

Nights were the worst for me after a week or two of benders. Couldnt sleep for days and id start to get paranoid
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I have esophageal cancer from drinking. Haven't had my regular voice in years, it always sounds like i have a bad cold. Enlarged heart and mild liver scarring as well.
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>>7318989
How much did you drink for how long?
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>>7318999
I started at 21 and got sick at 28. 1.5 to 2 liters of vodka per day.
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>>7313550
How is this supposed to shut up the guy who said HIV poster is gay? If anything it strengthens his case.
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>>7319058
Yea I misread it at first. Feel like a retard now
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>>7308816
Get a really comfy anime room going bro.
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>>7319025
welp, that would do it
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>>7317710
honestly youre much better off sticking with light beers. ive been doing that for about 4 months now and the problems associated with drinking are much less now.
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>>7313989
It's your gf Jarrett, stop making me roll in piss you fucking nutcase, put the fucking nappies on.

Not really bro but seriously, that's what she'd say.
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>>7319579
this made my day
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>tfw under 25 and brain is still developing so can't get drunk as fuck without risking impairing my brain development
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>>7319025
Wow, that's a pretty good run to be honest mate . Best of luck to you.
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>>7308587
i mean, i'm sorry for you and that story sounds awful, but

>I'm positive that she did

TOP KEK
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>>7320355
your brain is always developing
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>>7308378
haven't drunk since tuesday, I'm going to a birthday party today though so I'm gonna have to have at least a few beers
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>>7320499
/ck/ at least slows it down a bit
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>>7308389
do you read bukowski as well?
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>>7312276
>or the gym

Have you ever gone? You could get addicted.
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>>7320355

There are people who have drunk from the age of 13 and are smarter than you will ever be
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>>7320764

Right and your grandaddy lived to 90 and was a pack a day smoker so we should all light up.
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>>7320930
he was a better man than you'll ever be, pussy
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>>7320937
and now he's fucking worm food lol. sorry grampy!
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Anyone care to make the next thread? I'm on my phone at work so I was hoping to have another one to reply too when I get home
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgR15nlpHkg

I'm taking the weekend off from being a hootch bag so i'll sit around and play vidya and watch FATMAN WORK ON HIS ALCOHOLISM FOLKS!!!!! :D
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>>7320937

Do you not see the logical fallacy inherent in my example or are you just too drunk and sensitive to think, preferring instead to think I was making a comment on your actual grandfather, requiring your belligerent defense of him?
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>>7321400
>feeling this insulted by a snarky comment by anon
You were right in the first place, so who cares. Have a fucking drink and get over yourself.
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I went three days without a drink a few days ago and was so proud that I've been drunk for the rest of the week.
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>>7308378
Just told 5 women I was in love with them
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Sober 3 days! I'm going to make it guys
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>>7321674
hey same here man. lets try to get through this weekend
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>>7321647
how did they respond boyo?
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>>7321749
Waiting on that, 9amish where I am now and still kicking
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>>7321681

bout to finish day 2 and the vague hourly bouts of liver discomfort are already going away. Gonna make it bros. Not in danger of DT's, the worst withdrawal already seems to be long over. Biggest issue now is trouble falling asleep and crazy dreams when I do. Last night I dreamt that I opened my refrigerator and saw that I had a dozen beers in there that I had forgotten about. Woke up sweating, lol.
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>>7323071
yea i already gave in. im shittered. good luck tho
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