>>7306660 >implying we're not all nutrient deficient >implying cancer isn't just genetic >implying we don't lose our hair due to stress >implying we don't have heart problems due to our drug/alcohol abuse
I'd say yes. Make sure you eat well and healthy stuff that you don't throw up. Then, after you've had all your nutrients/calories that you require, go nuts and eat whatever you like then immediately throw it up. I don't see any problems with this.
>>7306605 I'm bulimic. Fucked up my esophagus and now I sound like female Batman. Not great. Also got heart murmur from it. Again, not great. But I can polish off a buffet while still fitting in my jeans so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>7306605 It's called exercise and healthy eating mate. I'm a very small woman with a fucking pathetic TDEE and I still get to eat food I think tastes great pretty much all day long while still maintaining quite low weight and bf%. Medically underweight, in fact. Just lift heavy on a schedule, do lots of cardio, and eat food that isn't garbage. If you stop eating insanely sugary/salty/oily food for like a week, the other food will start tasting good as fuck.
If you're a man over 5'6 you probably don't even need to eat healthy. Lift heavy, do cardio, and you'll probably look alright even while eating calorie dense foods.
>>7306615 HAES? More like sex at every size. Only reason HAES exists is to allow a double standard for fat girls to expect positive attention from fit, attractive men rather than the male hamplanets they deserve.
I suppose there's also a small percentage of HAES advocates who are just tired of their doctors recommending they not eat themselves into an early grave.
>>7307463 >4 whole tomatoes How the fuck can you stomach just plain tomatoes? I couldn't handle all that juice and tomato pulp alone. I also had a bad experience with plain tomatoes as a kid so maybe that has something to do with it
I'm bulimic. I just ate Thai food, an omelet, and some other shit. I have to purge and it sucks, but I can't keep the food down.
I can tell you that food loses it's best qualities when you use it as a tool for self destruction. I don't properly enjoy any food because all it is is a trigger for me to eat more and more so I can fill up and get it out. It's just a compulsion now.
If you can keep it from fucking up your mind, you can just eat to enjoy it and then get out what you want, but that's a big risk. I'm trying to but I can't at all beat this shit right now, it's driving me crazy.
Low caloric density is the answer, also drink more water. I don't believe at all in the genetic propensity for obesity bullshit, however I think your upbringing does determine your appetite - I was never fat, but our family loved to have huge dinners and small lunches and small breakfasts, I naturally came to appreciate eating large amounts of food in a single go.
These days, regardless of the amount of energy I'm meant to be eating, I can enjoy a huge dinner because I can just fill it up with beans, steamed vegetables and rice with some sort of meat. That's a huge amount of food for little caloric density.
I used to be anorexic, I was living off maybe 300-500 calories for almost a year before being hospitalized for a month. I never purged though, even when I tried throwing up was just too difficult me.
The patients at the hospital who were bulimic had a much harder time recovering than those who were just restricting their calories. They often had digestive issues and weren't physically able to keep food down, even after weeks of treatment. And I've heard that your esophagus and teeth also get fucked up, but I didn't snog with any hot bulimic girls to notice.
Nowadays thankfully there's no evidence or side effects of my healthy uneating habits all those years ago, but I'm not sure I'd be able to say the same if I had been bulimic instead.
I was 80 pounds at one point, and I'm 5'2. Was threated to be hospitalized and went up to about 110 and stayed that way for about 2 years while feeling fat as fuck. Then I was put on a medication that bumped me up to 140 pounds, I went off it but the weight never left even though I was eating the same amount of food as I always have, it was the lack of exercise that made me weight never go down. Exercise is the key I think.
No, calorie restriction and not fucking eating garbage all day is.
You get hungry because your body needs proteins, calories, and other nutrients. If you are constantly very hungry then it's a strong indication that your body is lacking something (proteins, vitamins, etc).
If you are concerned about turning into a 200 KG ultra fat fuck then just do the following:
>Drink a glass of water (500ml) before and after a meal, do not drink soda or juices with food (they contain calories) Your stomach has a volume capacity limit of about 2 liters before you start vomiting everywhere. Filling half of this space with water will literally reduce the severity of the hunger you will feel.
Many Ameriturds can consume almost 1,000 calories from soda alone.
>Eat enough proteins a day Your body will panic if it doesn't eat enough proteins during the day and make you very hungry. Proteins are needed all over the body including the brain (neurotransmitters) so it's crucially important you eat at least 0.8 per KG of body weight (64 grams for an 80KG person). Protein is found in milk/cheese, eggs, and meats mostly.
Not getting enough proteins during the day will cause your body to make you hungrier than usual and it will be forced to eat you for proteins (muscles). All of this causes you to be very tired during the day and makes you weak over time. In severe cases it causes many illnesses and eventually death (which is why anorexia is looked down upon).
>Eat some god damn fruit and vegetables The body also requires many vitamins and minerals it cannot find in meat. Fruit and vegetables also supply fiber which is necessary for a healthy digestive system.
>Do NOT expect to lose weight by exercising exercising is meant to make you stronger and endure physical stress longer. Just walking on a treadmill for 20 minutes will barely burn 100 calories, it's fucking nothing. Calorie restriction is the only way you will ever lose weight. Find out what your BMR (basal metabolic rate) and only eat that while eating enough proteins, you are guaranteed to drop ~2KG of weight each month.
>>7307841 Now I do, but I only started in the last two years or so. When I was recovering pretty much any exercise was banned (when I was in the hospital you were either bed or wheelchair-bound until maybe the last 3 days you were there) even if I was eating right because my heart was still so frail.
>>7307954 not him but he's right. Running is an unrealistic goal for those obese. Anybody with a BMI over 30 can't fucking run, period. Even if they forced themselves to it could cause injury to their joints. Somebody with an BMI of less than 30 could safely run as an exercise but most people are lazy and should just stick to a calorie restriction to not get fat.
Id like to. Bulimia just seems to be a part of me at this point. I went to the doctor when i was 17 and told him about it. He said hed book an appointment with a professional and he never called. Ive never asked for help since. I did get put on something like valium to deal with anxiety after going on drinking benders. Id just take a bunch and drink more. I was sober for 150 days but relapsed around the holidays. I stopped drinking when i started to piss and shit blood
>>7308317 Damn that must have been some hardcore binge. Never got that far but I can sure as hell understand the spiral-like descent. It's never too late to heal man. My brother died stupidly but might have as well survived, so could you. 150 days is a shitload, kudo for that.
Therapy helped me back then, Maybe it could work for you!
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