>>7300340 Yes >no man you just don't get it you've got to have REAL AUTHENTIC cuisine made by a street vendor's unwashed hands you Americans probably think Taco Bell is real Mexican food you just don't get it the real thing is so much different you know
People need to learn that authentic doesn't mean better, most of my favorite Mexican/Italian dishes are fusion or Americanized versions
>>7300340 As a Mexican I bitch about mexican food because it makes me pretty mad that there are foreigners who think shit like fucking Dorito tacos is genuine mexican and then proceed to call it shit because they have never seen actual mexican food, just heart-clogging tex-mex fast food. Just as a reminder, WE DON'T FRY OUR FUCKING TORTILLAS TO MAKE TACOS, unless it's explicitly tacos dorados or literally fried tacos.
I imagine Italians feel the same way, but at least the fast-food version of Italian is still fairly dignified.
>>7300340 To be honest watching Italians sperg about Pizza is funnier than watching Mexicans sperg about Taco Bell, mostly because the Mexicans are more or less 99% right. However, people who think Taco Bell is 'for real' mexican food are more or less a minority, at least here in Texas. Not sure how it is in Flyoverland or the East Coast.
>>7300377 Well, the foods most recognized as American are hot dogs and hamburgers in their respective buns, prepared in a far away factory and delivered to the point of sale in a frozen and possibly half-cooked state.
>>7300340 The thing that most people don't realize is that both Mexican and Italian foods are foods of people who were exceedingly impoverished in crippling subsistence level poverty for generations... that has only been "Dressed Up" for broader marketability for the last 100 or so years.
Literally both cuisines are the descendants of 1700's poor rural farmer food.
It can be tasty. It can be filling. But don't kid yourselves that it's something that it's not.
>>7300475 And nobody argues otherwise. The point that is made is that it is frustrating for people to immediately think of the americanized versions when either is mentioned, and in most people's books poor rural farmer food from the 1700s beats mass-produced modern fast food. I'm also not sure that description fully applies to italian.
>>7300475 >The thing that most people don't realize is that both Mexican and Italian foods are foods of people who were exceedingly impoverished in crippling subsistence level poverty for generations... that has only been "Dressed Up" for broader marketability for the last 100 or so years. >Literally both cuisines are the descendants of 1700's poor rural farmer food. >It can be tasty. >It can be filling. >But don't kid yourselves that it's something that it's not. It's not really true of Mexico. While they are poor on international standards, they have never been "starving" poor, because like the US, the family costs for food is neglible part of the weekly budget. In Mexico, even more so, it's exceedingly cheap to eat well, because it's local farm to table all day every day, and is low cost.
You kid yourself that the cuisine is somehow like the rice and beans of the Caribbean, or that it wasn't continental. Maximilian was Hapsburg Dynasty, and the most famous restaurant in Mexico City is french, really. It's always been a worldly capital with international influences and cuisine. It's a little bit more than tasty and filling.
I won't speak about Italy, except to say that it's far more regional than anyone thinks. And, on the flipside from Mexico, protein is far higher priced than it is in Mexico, or S. America for that matter. A big juicy steak isn't an issue at all for anyone in the Americas that isn't on an island.
>>7300360 >not cooking your tortillas on a comal slightly slathered in oil >implying pambazos, quesadillas, and huaraches aren't soaking in delicious oil Nice proxy you fucking faggot. Or you're probably from some shit village in north mexico
>>7300340 What people don't get is that every day mexican food is simple soups, simple stovetop quickly braised meats and eggs. fucking tones of eggs. fresh cheeses and beans, and ever present fresh tortillas.
I grew up eating eating authentic Mexican food, and it does make me rage when I see folks on the internet/in movies/real life saying "I'm gonna grab Mexican" and you see them eating Chipotle/Tex-Mex/Taco Bell -- which resembles nothing that I ate growing up. I wouldn't say anything if folks said "I'm gonna eat Tex-Mex, or American-Mexican food" however clunky that sounds. At least then, you're not misrepresenting what Mexican folk eat.
Fried stuff: chimichangas, hard shell tacos, "taquitos", nachos etc. are mostly an American thing.
We don't cover everything in cheese and sour cream like tex-mex. As a matter of fact, melting cheese is hardly used in Mexican cuisine. Sour cream is also something you rarely stock up on, it's used sparingly. Burritos are definitely an American thing. So are fajitas etc.
Mexicans eat braised meats and chicken (mole), grilled steak, tortas (sandwiches), hearty soups, tamales, seafood (ceviche) and so on. Mexican dishes are rather light.
The saddest thing about being Mexican and growing up eating authentic mexican food is that I'm so used to eating spicy/hot food that I cannot live without it. If I don't feel that familiar burn in my mouth I find the food bland.
>>7300406 I see that a lot less often than people who more or less replicate taco bell recipes and call it authentic because it's home cooked. I couldn't care less what it's called if it tastes good and doesn't kill me.
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