>>7282705 It's shit. I think there is one in my town but I don't even bother going there, I have way better shops than that.
BTW I still can't believe this doesn't exist outside France. Basically the best physical teashop ever.
See pic related? Green tagged boxes are unflavored teas, white tagged boxes are blends and by their standards jasmine pearls is a blend. Also the bottom of the tag color indicate the oxidation of tea. Dark brown is puerh, light brown black, blue oolong, green green and white white. And of course, only loose tea.
All sellers are trained at tea tasting in a tea school from the same company. And when you go to the side of the shop with unflavored tea, they understand what kind of client you are and they don't try to sell you shitty blend. That the only place where I can have discussion like: >should I try yunnan or qimen first? >Probably Yunnan
Try green teas, they have the most anti-oxidants. That said, anti-oxidants are a fad, every freaking plant has antioxidants. The only real health benefit of tea backed by research is that drinking a lot of it unsweetened clears up a lot of bacterial dental problems.
I personally hate the way green teas taste, too vegetal. My favorite type is medium roasted oolong, and non-Indian black teas.
I just made a nice cup of very high grade silver needle. It was very good. I like how the little tea leaf hairs float on the surface. It was very sweet and delicate. I have trouble describing white teas.
Hey /ck/ I have an electric kettle that works awesome, with variable temps. However, I was looking at Zohji/Tiger electric "hot pots" to safely keep water hot all day (I drink a lot of tea and coffee).
Are they worth the $120? My $30~40 black and decker works fine, but i dont feel comfortable with leaving it on "warm" for long periods of time.
I have one and find it very worth it, but I steep the fuck out of all my teas to get my money's worth. Each 6g gets four resteeps, and I go through two of those on work days, one scoop before work and one right after.
How often do you go to get hot water? If it's only two or three times a day on average, not worth the money IMO.
Sounds like you would put it through enough use to warrant spending $120 on it. Make sure to clean it once a month, though, and don't use tap water in it or a lot of muck will build up in the filter thingy at the bottom.
Yeah probably. It isn't a taste issue, that's for nitpickers. My heater had a lot of flakey, chalky white shit in the filter whenever I used tap, so I started carbon filtering my tea water and it cleared up.
Your kettle could be for your top shelf shit, and the heater is for daily drinking while working or fapping away at your PC.
>>7284502 It was black tea labeled as being from "Yunnan and Anhui Provinces" suitable for breakfast or afternoon tea.
I don't keep track of temperature. I let my tea kettle whistle, take it off the burner, rinse the pot out with the boiling water, put the tea in, and then pour. I let it sit for 3 minutes initially, and went up to 5 minutes in some later brewings. Still wasn't strong enough. I used a teaspoon of loose tea per cup.
I posted a couple threads ago about giving away some bagged Yerba Mate The person from USA who said they were interested never replied to my email so I'm offering again. I've got two international stamps all bought out so it's about 4 or 5 teabags per person. They're all wrapped in their own plastic packaging so you wont have to worry about them getting wet
>>7282705 I used to work at pic related and it's very similar. I learned a lot about the process and history behind tea but now I just go to a local shop. They jack up the prices to insane amounts and put way too much sugar in all of the samples to bring people in.
>>7282642 >mfw trying to get my friend into drinking tea >mfw buy them some good quality herbal tea (about $15 worth) >mfw from Oklahoma >mfw all anyone knows around here is Lipton/Luzianne iced tea >mfw "i dont like tea"
>>7284513 Honestly, it sounds to me like you've come to expect a specific flavor from what you think of as tea and anything that isn't that flavor isn't tea. Nothing really wrong with that, but enjoying tea for it's flavor instead of just the caffeine is something you could learn to do if you want to get into tea adn explore what it has to offer.
>>7284723 Well, it's easier to make green teas bitter by steeping them in water that is too hot (boiling would achieve this). You honestly aren't going to be getting better tea from lose leaf teas if all you want is the bitter taste. I recommend you stick with what you're doing.
>>7282642 I used to get Teavana's Copper Knot Hongcha as my go to black tea but for whatever reason they've stopped making it. I'm glad to no longer have an excuse to go there, but the closest I can get is Yunnan Golden Tipped from a local shop. I think Golden Heaven Yunnan from englishteastore.com is pretty close.
>>7284540 Bad wording on my part. I mean tea growing stale. Any ripeing probably wont happen here in europe, since we have dryer climate (than in China) and the tea cake just... get dry. Only change happenin oneward is just negative.
>>7284804 The pot did come from a Chinese restaurant that went out of business near me. They had a sign in the window that said everything for sale so I asked if I could buy one of their tea pots. Got it for $6 and it came with a huge amount of oolong.
I'd just like to tell you something I learned in my health class today. All you tea drinkers out there, who think they are getting great health benefits are idiots. You are drinking leaves, how is that healthy? Your just drinking chlorophyll!
90% of the people who drink tea on this site are just fucking WEEABOOS. You drink tea just because the JAPS do it. Well, the JAPS have you conned. The other 10% are just britfags, and you are excused, because you are naturally fucking morons. Tea is just a LEAF! Japs aren't smart. You see how shitty their Yen is? You think that someone, who can't even keep a good economy, has the intelligence to know how good tea is? Bullshit.
Enjoy your diluted organic particles and chlorophyll, you've all been conned by the crafty, yet idiot NIPS.
I bought the adagio raja sampler, and it was delicious. I've got one of those ingenuitea things, a cheap electric kettle, and I use spring water to make my tea because our tap water makes it taste weird.
>>7282642 Never try to talk about tea with a fucking britcuck, those fucks don't know shit. Some stupid bitch I gayme with sometimes couldn't tell me what type of tea she drank (kept calling it "regular tea") after telling me how superior tea is to coffee. Took me a week to finally get the dumb bitch to admit that it was black tea what she was drinking but still insists on calling it "regular tea" and didn't know white tea existed.
>>7288734 Heck, I can't really hold that against the brits, over here tea means sweet black iced tea and that's the only tea that matters, which is stupid for several reasons. What I can hold against the brits is how every single one that I've ever known leave the bag in and burn the tea, making it bitter as fuck.
>>7288734 Yeah brits are pretty ignorant about this kind of thing. Literally every drinks the same blend of Black tea. It's either PG Tips, English breafast, Tetley or Yorkshire and they all taste pretty much the same.
Most of them have genuinely never encountered any other type of tea. "Tea" to them is English breakfast type tea, in every scenario.
What are some good, low-caff teas? I'm considering not getting shincha this year because drinking anything somewhat high on caffeine makes me feel really weird. Preferably with places to order from; I don't mind importing.
Matcha and surprisingly white tea have the highest caffeine content, the rest vary by farming and production methods.
Roasting leaves tends to lower caffeine content, although if the raw leaves had high caffeine to start with they would still have quite a kick.
The onlyi reliable way to estimate caffeine content is to look at the size of the leaf: pretty consistently in my experience the tippy, small leaves have very high caffeine and the big roundish leaves have the least.
Sorry I can't offer a concrete suggestion for a light tea, these are just observations from my job at a tea wholesaler.
>>7290257 Gyokuro Karigane has low caffeine and high theamine, but it can be very vegetal. I absolutely love it, but I would only recommend it if you already like green tea. I get it from a local shop here, and they have an online site but you can probably find it elsewhere.
>>7290842 Gyokuro superior is indeed high in caffeine. Gyokuro Karigane is basically the waste product of Gyokuro Superior. Karigane is just the stems/sticks of the leaves, whereas the leaves are used for Superior. If you don't believe me, read it in the link I first posted. It's a stick tea like regular Kukicha, which I just learned is also low in caffeine.
>>7291004 It processed my transaction and I got an invoice saying that it went through. I didn't have to enter any credit card information either. It seems to be free tea. I don't know whether it will actually ship though.
>>7291415 Yeah, I don't brew anything nice in a cup, I don't drink my nice teas in cup quantities either, I usually sit down and enjoy one or two small cups then keep going about my business. If I'm brewing I gotta grind through the work, I use pic related.
That's fucked up. They're gonna have to change that soon or else Teavana will run into the new organic movement of consumers. Artificial flavoring in tea is about as bad as fast food. Luckily the new health trend is setting the industry straight.
>>7284497 You can try having Matcha, or oversteep Mei Lü (use really hot water plus twice the account of leaves you'd typically use) and you will achieve that bitter flavour... Personally, I think you're better off sticking with coffee if what you're after is bitter flavour
>>7292116 What do I need to enjoy tea? A taste and opinion on the different kinds of tea probably, but, things like loose leaf vs bagged or the concept of milk. When, if ever, should I add milk? What is a standard cup of tea? Like a table spoon of loose leaf to 250 ml of water? Does water temp really matter. How long should I steep it for?
I feel like I can answer these questions if they related to coffee, but outside of Barry's tea and milk, tea is an unknown world to me.
>>7292116 not that guy but yeah usually white has less and green has the most. obv matcha would have a higher amount as it is both green and concentrated, plus you consume the whole leaf. Mate is not tea.
rooibos is also not tea. not trying to be pedantic or split hairs its just neither of those come from the tea plant so the caffeine and other attributes are irrelevant as they can't be compared with other tea varieties. It would be like asking which egg has more dietary cholesterol, quail or cadbury.
>>7292171 You have a point there. I guess I just got so used to having white, black, green, oolong, puehr and rooibos being compiled under the tea category.
>>7292160 I got halfway through your questions and it was already like a novel so I'm going to bite the bullet and ask you for other means of contact. I took a screenshot of your questions so I could answer them more in depth.
>>7292892 >>7292895 I was in this asian dudes tea shop in San Fransisco once, during a visit. He had one type of tea worth $3200 for a pound. So that would be about $176 for your 25g. He does free tea tasting sessions for hes "cheaper" teas $60/lb or so I think. So I got to try some different stuff which was cool.
>>7293101 Use honey instead of sugar. Dark honey at first then use alfalfa honey since it's light. Once you've gotten used to that taste, try straight up tea with honey notes. Youll get used to the taste of tea.
>>7284456 Keeping coffee on a hot plate cooks out a lot of the subtler flavors. If you just want a coffee kick in the mouth that's fine, but it's better to keep it in a thermos if you're froo-froo about your coffee.
>>7284484 Home made soft drinks can actually be an art, too. Originally the carbonation came from fermentation ("soft" drink meant LITTLE alcohol, not NO alcohol). There can be just as much skill involved in a good soda as a good beer.
>>7293140 This, I though I had no taste at first. But very soon I wasn't able to drink lipton anymore. And the further I go the more lower grades taste bad to me, even loose tea from somewhat okay stores.
>>7293583 >Everyone seems to think being bitter as Satan's asshole means it's strong. And that's wrong as hell. Tea shouldn't be bitter. At all. Never.
The tanins that are responsible for bitterness actually kill the caffeine which is the purpose of those drinkers who don't even care about the taste in the first place. Even them should care a little more and make a proper freaking tea.
Well except Tuareg-style gunpowder, but you put a ton of sugar to compensate and it's a very different purpose than ordinary tea. Not really comparable.
>>7293157 Making your own ginger ale (or strawberry soda, or whatever you want) at home is really easy, actually. Sterilize an empty 2L soda bottle, rinse it well with distilled water, add yeast, flavoring (ginger or whatever), sugar (maybe 3/4 cup or so), then distilled water. Shake well, then twice again after a few hours. Then stick it in the closet and forget about it for 2-4 weeks.
>>7293694 I've heard darjeeling been called as the champagne of teas. It's fruity and floral but has a spice flavour to it. The way they oxidize it re similar to how they would oxidize a green or an oolong, which is probably why it reminded you of that taste. I like the second flush better, desu.
>>7295805 I dont have any off the top of my head, but that rivertea.com place is still broken so you can get free tea, but I dont know if its tea is any good I'll find some links tomorrow, chamomile is my favorite herbal tea
so explain to me scientifically how brewing tea with different methods matters in the slightest? as long as the tea is making contact with hot water, through an infuser or not, how would that matter? coffee I can understand, it is brewed in a much more exact process to get the strength, tea is just the right amount of water to leaves and the right water temperature steeped for a certain amount of time.
When it comes to the infusion process it's important to allow the tea leaves to breath in the water so to speak. Allowing them to be fully surrounded and not compressed will allow for it to release its properties.
Black tea contains tannins but not tannic acid. Like fine wines, teas, especially black teas are often described by tasters as "tannic." This means they contain high levels of certain phenolic flavor compounds, collectively called tannins, that give the tea its refreshingly astringent, slightly bitter taste.
So it's absolutely important to ensure the right temperature and steep times correspond to the potency you desire. It's worth testing this out over time and see what works for you.
Also it's worth drinking out of a clear glass cup to truly see the infusion process take place. It's beautiful!
>>7297284 Oh that. It kind of matter. Less than the temperature and quantity of tea/water but still.
First the gong fu cha vs western methods. Of course it matter, you're changing the time and quantity of tea…
Then there is the space. Tea infuse better when it can move freely and when the leaves can open nicely. I know that also by experience. I have some tie guan yin that takes time to open up. And every fucking time the first 2 or so infusions aren't that great and then after the leaves are actually opened it taste way better.
You could also say that the matter of the teapot can change the taste a little bit. But I use that shit ( >>7292280 ), the infuser is in fucking PLASTIC and it still taste great.
Apart from that, not really. Teapot vs infuser in cup is exactly the same.
>>7297448 Jesus. Stuff like this always makes me wonder what kinds of jobs people here on /ck/ must have in order to afford this interest of theirs. Are we all just living a quality of life that's well above our means? Or can some of you actually afford to maintain this lifestyle?
>>7297528 I know what a hobby is. I know what kind of money can be spent on those hobbies as my grandmother, uncle and aunt respectively have enjoyed those hobbies all their lives. I never said 'just for some tea' by the way. Not minimizing your interest in tea. It's as valid a hobby as any the way I see it. My grandmother also collected tea sets. Fine China, that sort of thing. Anyway. Glad you have something like that in your life.
>>7297661 Hasn't been nearly that long for my grandma, not even close to one decade, but yeah, I get your point. A lot of people do tend to treat them as ornamental possessions. At least from what I've seen.
Ok so I need a tea for sleep. Right now I drink the extra sleepy time bear tea (he's like passed out on the ground on the box instead of the chair) I think it's celestial? It kinda makes me sleepy, not like the bear on the box. Am I just drinking bullshit? Is there better sleep tea?
>>7284656 I bought some green tea and a kettle from Harney & Sons for the holidays. Tried Japanese Sencha because I heard it was a good entry tea and it really helped me get through some mornings. I just got an order of Chai and Vanilla Comoro because I wanted something more exotic and the caffeine was worrying me. Do you think I should try more green teas or look into whites and blacks first?
>>7297259 >>7297315 To put it simply some of the aromatic compounds and give the flavor and smell of tea evaporate/break down at high temperatures for teas like green and white while in other teas those compounds aren't released into the water unless brewed at adequate temperatures.
>>7297456 You should see what the 40k and MTG guys on /tg/ spend on their hobbies. If you buy some good but still an "everyday" sort of tea, say $40/month, that really isn't too extravagant. Eating a couple of meals at home instead of going to a restaurant easily makes up for that difference. Or having your tea setup at home/work and using that instead of going out to Starbuck's.
>>7297695 Anything with valerian is good for that. However, valerian taste like butts, so most blends will also have mint and chamomile. You can also buy valerian powder capsules at your local hippy bullshit store. Melatonin tablets are good too.
Neither make you groggy like diphenhydramine (benadryl/nyquil).
>>7297856 But eating at restaurants or drinking that shit at Starbucks are things I could never afford to do (or want to do in the latter case) anyway. But I get your point. The tea was only one small part of what I was trying to say. There are a lot of fairly expensive things discussed here. At least for me. And I have to wonder how people manage to live like that. I'd like to. Maybe someday.
>>7289608 >visiting my aunt, who recently married >new uncle is british >aunt wants to go shopping to take me to get food and things since they are rarely at the house and it's even more rare that they have company since they both work super demanding jobs >uncle overhears me saying we should get some tea >TEA? WE HAVE TEA. HERE IT IS. THE ONLY TEA WE NEED IS PG TIPS
what's with brits and PG Tips? is it like their Lipton or something?
>>7298211 I went to their facebook page and it looks like people have been complaining since March 2015 about the defunct website and no one being able to contact the owners. the anon who "bought" tea isn't going to get anything, sadly.
>>7284832 It's been such a long time, but I remember it being medium bodied (not too strong of a black tea), having a nice rich but somehow still mellow malty flavor (tasted wonderful but never overpowering), and mild tannins. It was never astringent and I had once over-steeped it by half an hour. It didn't need any sugar or milk either. It was like the perfectly balanced tea. I also remember being able to re-steep it up to 3 or 4 times and still get a very good cup of tea. The best steeping was honestly the 2nd time if I didn't overdo the first.
I've never tried Ruby 18, I'll have to give it a try. Just read some reviews of it online and it sounds pretty awesome.
>>7290257 Honestly, just steep most any tea for about 5-10 seconds and pour out the first steeping. That will carry away with it 75 - 90% of the caffeine. Then just re-steep and you'll end up with a low caffeine tea. The flavors should still be very much present unless it's a low quality or old and dried out tea (in which case it wouldn't be that good to begin with).
>>7293101 - Get a good quality black tea (holds up to southern palate) - Learn how to brew it without boiling the water or oversteeping the tea. (made a huge difference in flavor for me when I was doing this) - Continue drinking this tea but slowly reduce the sugar and try to identify different flavors and aromas in the tea as you drink it with less sugar. - Reduce the amount of sugar you eat/drink in general. - You'll soon start tasting the natural sweetness/maltiness in teas without much sugar or any at all.
I'm probably going to get shit on by /ck/ elitists for this, but this herbal mix infusion is my go-to before sleep. It's aromatic, fragrant and has a sweetish aftertaste, perfect for 2am relaxation. During the day I drink some earl gray I ordered from Sri Lanka.d
>>7282787 There's Palais des Thes in several countries. It's a damn impressive shop and service has always been good, but they are expensive, especially when looking for current-year stuff, and they dropped the ball at least once on properly cleaning the fruity smell out of a can before reusing it for a different tea.
I've had great luck with online shopping so far (just no silly things like an account that came up on an ebay or aliexpress search, no matter how highly rated they are)
>>7297520 I don't think Sencha has any business costing over $35 per 100g, and that's for top-shelf stuff bought at the peak of shincha season. Though that's before figuring in the fancy tea shop markup.
>>7300127 Last time I had to find a new vendor, I went to Teachat and read through the vendor recommendation threads for the tyes of tea I wanted. Better get fresh recommendations than my stale ones. For best results I order each type of tea from a respected vendor in its country of origin. Since tea is light, compact and not terribly expensive, you can do this without incurring the wrath of the customs gods. One vendor per country of origin is usually good enough. China is an exception in that it's worth splitting between different vendors, because there's real benefit in, say, getting pu-erh from a specialist, and also in hedging your bets with dodgy goods or fucked up shipping.
>have some wonderful green tea I love >it's starting to run out >there's no indication of what sort of tea it is anywhere on the box What am I supposed to do when it actually runs out? It's in small curls, tastes of ginseng and has a mild sweetness to it.
can someone give me some pointers of how to make basic tea with a teabag
whenever i try it always ends up tasting kind of sickly strong and almost aches the back of my throat. oddly enough it still doesnt have much taste, its more like drinking dirty water
i dont get it, i follow all the steps. i boil the water and then pout it over the bag in the mug, it still ends up shitty. is there something i'm missing? do i have to stir the tea so it gets evenly distributed? do i leave the teabag in there or take it out? and its ok if the teabag immediately floats to the top when i pour in the water, right?
>>7303176 >>7303184 Definitely pour the water over the bag, the bag floats to the top because there's a lot of air trapped inside, not much you can do about that unless you're willing to perforate the teabag and risk the blend floating around in your cup, also, you should use a proper tea cup just because. As for leaving the bag in or taking it out, I believe that's up to you, as in optional, but I might be wrong.
>>7303176 There is no reason to ever use a teabag ever.
Teabag always contain the most shitty of shitty teas.
Get yourself an infuser and some loose tea FROM A TEASHOP (no twinning box or other shit). The first price loose tea is ~5€/100g which is even less expensive than the less expensive teabags, and way better.
>>7303186 I have some sencha ariake, the liquor is green as fuck.
>>7303192 Not that I would really know, but this. I've heard about the difference in quality as long as I've lived, so I have to lend it some credence. I just can't afford tea like that. And I don't think I have a local tea shop.
>>7303204 >I just can't afford tea like that Can't you read? Loose tea (at least the first price) is LESS pricey than even the shittiest teabag box.
It becomes pricey only when it becomes a hobby and you start looking for new, rare, and better teas. Take a teabag box you would buy, look how many grams you have in it, look the price, make some maths and tell me if you find less that 5€/100g.
>>7303221 Dude, do you have a food pantry charity thing in your area? And you should probably also apply for foodstamps, but that might take a while. Or maybe go hang out at a Buddhist/Sikh temple, they have free food at most of their events, and they'd probably let you do general work there for food.
>>7307830 I suppose that makes it much harder, I sit corrected. Most proxies I use are banned on the chan. I never go to /int/ and /pol/ is a hitler youth VS communist VS edgelord clusterfuck last I checked.
>>7307810 Have you tried gunpowder tea with a shit load of fresh mint and sugar for Tunisian one? Don't take the leaves out of the pot either, it is supposed to get more bitter with every glass. If you had some outside, they were probably sitting for a while and way more over brewed than whatever you will try at home.
Still pretty new to all of this. But I'm taking a liking to tea that are, for lack of a better term, strong in taste. Lapsang souchong is my personal favourite. What other teas do I go for if I want strong taste?
Also, should I get a gaiwan? I more or less know how to use one.
>>7311027 Thanks, Anon. I'll note that down and see if I can find it at the local tea shop.
>>7311030 >You know it's called Westerner tea in China right :) Ha, I believe it. It's delicious though. It's kind of funny, I don't know anyone IRL who drinks it, but I see it mentioned very often whenever I stumble over tea discussions online.
>Try roasted oolongs and any Chinese black I like Oolongs, but I'm not sure if I've had much roasted. I'll look around for it. I just recently moved, and I don't know the local tea shop that well. Thanks, Anon.
why do instructions always give you such obscene amounts of leaves per ml of water? like this lapsang said to use 8 teaspoons for 1l of water and I put in 4 and it was more than enough and for my green teas it often says 1g per 1oz fluid but that would be like 33g for a liter of tea, an absolutely ridiculous amount of leaves
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