What's the cheapest food budget you could live healthy on, if you had to count your pennies?
I figure a jar of peanut butter, a bag of rice, beans, hotdogs, some corn and some oranges could probably feed a guy for two weeks for under 10 dollars
I recently started living alone but in terms of cheap and healthy I would say $20 a week could work if you go to a cheap grocer.
Usually I go for frozen veggies, rice. sale bread, apples. oranges, lettuce and when its on sale some bulk chicken and ground beef. Best option is to get a bunch of tupperware or baggies and make rice+meat or meat sandwich for lunches and dinners and you basically eat it with water and only use 2-3 dollars of food a day.
Its very penny pinching, but its better and healthier then 33 cent ramen.
Not the best choice, but I guess it depends on what's cheap.
Breakfast (about 10 cents USD a day if wheat is bought in bulk)
Hard red winter wheat cooked in thermos (Boil water, add wheat to thermos with a pinch of salt add water and seal lid to thermos. come back after getting ready for your day and eat.)
Lunch 30 cents USD or so.
Lentil soup (Lentils, pepper, onions, carrot, salt Bullion cube if desired. Also can be prepared with the thermos method, but takes about 4 hours, and the thermos needs to be kept wrapped in a towel.)
Dinner (maybe 1.50 USD):
Fisherman's eggs (Sardines crushed up with some cracker in a souffle dish with a couple of eggs cracked over them. baked until eggs are opaque.served with hot sauce)
Wa La. meals for about 2 dollars including energy expenses.
There is some variation between nations and regions, but that aside, you tend to eat cheapest by minimizing fruits, vegetables, fish and spices, and to some extent meat. It is advisable to consume a variety of staple foods with different nutritional profiles, rather than just one staple food plus a lot of vegetables and fruit. Processed products, including processed meat, are almost always more expensive than unprocessed equivalents and thus should be avoided. If anything, processed meats are not "healthy" either, because the preservatives used tend to cause cancer.
Example selection: In rotation, at least 2 of these a day: Buckwheat, millet, cornmeal, wheat flour, potatoes, brown rice
1 serve of legumes: beans, lentils, peas
limit vegetables: spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, kale, apples
animal options: eggs, fermented dairy; pork chops, ground beef, beef liver
snacks: hazelnuts, peanuts, sunflower seeds, dried figs
1 serve of oily fish per week
always avoid: tomatoes, mushrooms, honey, salad, cucumber, onions, garlic, spices
And the reason I forgot certain grains is because I personally don't eat them. But obviously, you can and should also eat wheat, barley, rye and especially oats as these are very cheap in the West and provide adequate nutrition in combination.
It's just important to keep in mind that even a very expensive staple food tends to have a much lower cost per calorie than most vegetables. For example, the cost per 1000 calories for quinoa is 2.6 at my local store, whereas tomatoes are at 10 and mushrooms at 20.
However, quinoa is high in magnesium and phosphorus and adequate in iron, zinc and folate, with an acceptable 14% protein content. Tomatoes and mushrooms are essentially just extremely expensive water.
I'm avoiding onions anyway because of the FOS content, but they contribute nothing of significance in a diet intended to be as cost-effective as possible anyway. They are basically a spice, and spices are a waste of money if you are trying to save money.
by the time you take into account how many servings you get out of it, it would probably be the same or cheaper than hotdogs, to just get a chunk of meat, or a roast or something and cut it down into single servings and ziplock/freeze it till you're ready to use it
one $5-ish bag of rice + $5-ish bag of chickpeas + $5-ish bag of frozen vegetables is enough to live on for a week, easily. I would add one $5-ish jar of curry paste to avoid madness.
OP, you underestimate the cost of food; what you listed would cost more than $10.
How much rice and veg does that buy you? I would get at least 5 lbs of each of those. The chickpeas would probably be 3 lb for $5, but I'd probably buy lentils instead since they're cheaper and chickpeas take goddamned forever to cook. Even if chickpeas were half the cost of lentils, you'd probably make it back in cooking energy costs.
buy a whole chicken brine it then roast it. usually cheaper than individual cuts and you can make stock from the bone. i usually go through one a week.
also no one has mentioned canned fish like sardines and herring. which in my opinion is the best protein/$ at the grocery store
>ITT: spices are expensive
So is /ck/ like /o/ in that 90%of posters have no idea what the fuck they're talking about?
>spices and salt
>onions for the vegetable vitamin content and flavor
>oranges for fruit/ prevent scurvy
>two or three meals for $5
this is what i do on a fun day, this isn't saving money. getting a whole rotisserie chicken is basically the same price as well. real meat savings come when you can get thighs for like $1/lb, and you save the bones for stock.
>canned salty fish
>better protein content for cost than beans
Buy one get one free bottom shelf foods that expand when cooked, fill you up faster, give you more calories, and store a long time.
>10$ grocery list (two weeks addition)
cheapo brown rice
cheapo nutrient drink mixes
This is subjective on the geographic location of the subject. I live far away from the sea so fish will be always expensiver than chicken/pork/beef (unless we are talking about canned tuna, etc)
I bought a big bag of brown rice, frozen veges, and chicken. Mix it all up for dinner every night. Breakfast is oats with a peanut butter sandwich, lunch is probably pasta or something.
>muh preserved canned fish isn't salty!
salt in a soda:
about 19 mg in a 21 oz. cup
can of sardines? yeah that's 41 mg in 12g. not as bad as a pack of jumbo hotdogs, about 130mg of salt per 12 grams
even canned tuna is salty brah, just like you are when you're backpedaling
this, also cheapest place to get beans, rice, milk, cheese, veggies and fruit, eggs, butter, flour, sugar, etc.
>buys peanut butter
>buys nothing to put it on
Shit shopping list tbqhwy, homie.
Also, assuming a bare pantry, it's just about impossible to live on $10 for a week. However, even with a bare pantry, you can live off of $10 per week. Sounds like the same thing, but it's not.
If you buy in bulk, prices by weight are cheaper but at a higher initial investment. Also, having bulk ingredients on hand means fewer shopping trips would be necessary. Ergo, if you spend $100 in one go intelligently, you can feasibly avoid shopping again for over 10 weeks.
For example, three frozen chickens just shy of 5lbs each would cost under $15.
>enough bones for a litre/quart of stock
>enough meat for 30 servings if you're not a fatty fatty fatty fat who eats three-to-four portions of meat more than you actually need in a meal
>enough skin and fat to render for nearly three cups of cooking grease
>enough skin and fat to turn into crunchy, delicious chicken rinds for snacking
Add a bit of rice, pasta/noodles or bread and some veg and that'll feed you four weeks of dinners at a total cost of about $5.25 per week.
Rice pudding for breakfast. A week's worth costs about $1.20.
Vegetable or bean-based dishes for lunch. A week of meals would cost about $3.50.
That's a total just slightly under $10 per week.
Upping your budget even by only a single dollar, though, would be extremely helpful. You could add fruits or salads or snacks. $10, though doable, is very, very difficult.
Buy oatmeal. It costs about $2 and that much will last you two weeks. It's probably the best thing you can buy if you are on a budget.
I always look for items on sale. There is always fish or meat on sale. I buy them in bulk and freeze them. It is really not that difficult to live on under $4 a day unless you're a complete retard.
Do I have all my money for the month or year all at once or is it dished out?
What you'll find is if you're doing say 10 dollars a week, it's rather difficult to meet 2000 calories a day in any satisfying way.
If you have 40 dollars a month, your options expand a lot more because food tends to be the most expensive at smaller amounts. The difference of buying saying 50 lbs of rice for 16-20 dollars versus buying 5 lbs of rice for 3-4 dollars.
Also, another important factor is how long. If I were to do this, assuming shopping once a month
>bulk buy rice, dried pasta and/or potatoes
>bulk buy dried black and kidney beans
>bulk buy frozen vegetables
>bulk buy a fat
And boom, you can live while hitting caloric and protein needs for a few months.
Costco is weird, They actually use the Rotisserie chicken as a loss leader to get people into the stores. One analyst estimated that they are losing 40 Million dollars a year on them.
I don't know about merricans but in e-europe we got these bad boys
>no gluten if that's your fetish
>cheaper than rice
>complete protein profile
just make a huge batch fried together with onions and bits of any meat that is cheap
1lb. Of bacon can be stretched to the max. You can sometimes get the cheaper brands on a 2 for $5 deal, but even at an on sale $2.99-$3.99 you can stretch the shit out of it. 2 strips is a good serving, you can make a pound last a week and you always reserve your bacon fat to cook with in place of cooking oil or as a flavoring in vegetables. Adding a teaspoon to almost any meal baconizes it into something different. You cancer gags can complain about the nitrates, but a serving of spinach or celery has 20x the nitrates two strips of bacon has.
Rice and multivitamins.
Meet your calorie per day intake with the rice, and take two multivitamins a day. You would also need to increase your water intake to flush your kidneys to prevent stones forming from excess of minerals from the multivitamins.
How doesn't peanut butter make the cut? I guess if you eat shit tier jiff or Skippy that's loaded with sugar and extra fat, but natural PB is just peanuts and a pinch of salt. An absolutely perfect healthy source of protein. It's actually cheaper too, Smuckers natural PB is less than $3 a jar, plus it comes in glass so you can use a metal knife without worrying about getting plastic shavings in your sandwich.
eggs, but they're too expensive now
lots of dried beans
lots of dried rice
condiments and silverware from fastfood places
bags of frozen mixed veggies
canned parm (maybe)
dried noodles if on sale
any produce on sale
Save money. Find a package of bacon ends. for even less. Especially if you are using it more as a flavoring than a part of a meal. portion out how much you will use per meal into the little snack size ziplock bags. keep it in the freezer. Flavor beans and split pea soups with it.
>it comes in glass so you can use a metal knife without worrying about getting plastic shavings in your sandwich.
>mfw when people worry about this
What the hell? use a butter knife and don't work it like you're trying to loosen up your boipussy.
Because glass is old school and superior in every way to plebstic jars. It's highly recyclable, reusable and either you are in the ghetto and your butter knives are made of plastic or you are moneybags Mcgee and leaving two sandwiches of PB in the jar because you are to elite to scrape the sides. If you had a 3rd grade or higher education they would have taught you metal Is stronger than plastic.
Even so all good natural peanut butter comes in a godlike glass jar. So even if your limp wristed can't scratch a plastic jar with a metal knife. You are still eating garbage palm oil and sugar laden kids food.
Honestly, I buy the Jif natural (which comes in plastic) and I eat it maybe once a year. I primarily leave it in the cupboard for a snack (all my friends like peanut butter) but mostly the dogs eat it.
I put a tablespoon down the empty marrow every now and then as a treat. I'm not going to drive 45 minutes to go buy fancy peanut butter I'm hardly ever going to eat, and then feed it to the dogs...
> tells me I'm trying to loosen up my boi pussy
Meanwhile you are flitting around your house in panties and a chastity device on your feminine benis, making PB&J sandwiches for your girl and her lover while they are busy in your bed. I bet you hold your knife with your sissy pinky up while you scrape peanut butter out of the jar.
Sorry for being a fucking man and have no time to deftly ninja scrape a sandwich.
A pound of hotdog is $2.50, 900 calories, 600 from fat, and 50g of protein.
A pound of lentils is $1.00, 1600 calories, almost none from fat, and 120g of protein.
Poors who eat hot dogs have been cucked by the meat industry.
>this is a really good way to not enjoy a meal ever
>i agree with most points but you need onions and spices
The goal was cheapest healthy diet, not most enjoyable diet. A bland meal can be okay now and then, but you've got to sacrifice the other criteria to some extent if you want tasty meals.
of course it should be cheap but those are 5-10 euros a month that you can save somewhere else
you could eat a lot cheaper than your post suggested if you really needed to and it would still taste infinitely better than meals without spices and onion
not OP, but try NOT getting a job and you have to live off with a few pennies to spend for meals. Not everybody can get money and even if they did, it's mostly to pay bills and shit and little for everything else.
The reason you're saying shit on this is because you never once experienced living like a poorfag. So until you do, shut the fuck up if you have nothing to contribute.
Lentils are not a complete protein so the comparison is not very fair.
Also eating a pound of lentils can be tricky and I like lentils.
But hotdogs are pretty shit since there are better sources for proteins, or calories, or fat.
Rice+Lentils is a complete protein for example which is superior to hotdogs.
If you sprout lentils they will become a complete protein too. (protein will have all amino acids, not saying the lentils suddenly become 100% protein)
Whey protein is also a lot cheaper than hotdogs for protein, and it's a complete protein.
For one person?
Breakfast: oatmeal and a multivitamin
Lunch: hunger and sadness
Dinner: Rice, beans, chicken, and mixed veggies
10lb oatmeal is like 8$ from costco and has lasted me a month eating oatmeal every day since I got it (I haven't even made dent)
25lb rice is like 20$ and has lasted myself and my 2 roomates for 3 months, and we're about half way through
No idea on the cost of dried beans as we always get the cans, but ill put the price at 2$ per lb
Chicken breasts are expensive as hell at 12$ per bag, and each bag lasts about a week
Mixed veg can be found for 7$ per 5lb bag
Let's say the oatmeal and rice last a year
Your cost per month is like 62$ per month, brought down to 14$ if you omit chicken
bumping this because i want to figure out how to live on food worth $20/week or less 'cause I got a low blow on my finances and need to tighten my wallet.
Eggs are so damn expensive now at $3-4/dozen and they're medium.
Hotdogs usually sell at $1.50 per 8 pack that tastes like shit. I'd get it at 80c if I'm lucky on certain days, or if I go REAL far in places where they sell them as such.
I can get a 5lb bag of rice for $3
a 1lb bag of frozen mixed veggies sell for $1 each
a fully cooked small rotisserie chicken (around 3-5 lbs) usually sell for $7. I often use that as a basis when I buy Fresh Chicken normally. Now I have to rethink on what's the best way to buy meat for cheap. Some dollar stores do sell $1 chicken for an awfully small pair of drumsticks.
Ramen is $1.50 for half a dozen
Bread is usually at $2
So anything else you guys recommend me to buy that would cost me less than $20 total and can last for a week or longer is helpful.
I have a book named "Nourishing Traditions" and in it there are recipes based around bones that have been cooked for many hours to extract flavour and nutrients. These recipes are referred to as "Broths or Stocks" apparently the difference, according to my book, is that broths are not really measured or calculated, just some bones thrown in water with salt and veg. Whereas a stock is a consistent, measured formula usually made in kitchens for future recipes.
There is your answer you colossal weirdo. Additionally, maybe not everyone knows what "stock" refers to..The dictionary has 7 definitions related to the noun form of the word "stock" and only 3 for broth. which is more efficient at conveying my intended message?
I must say though, after years of browsing this forum I have never been more irritated than I am now by your confusing display of inanity and pettiness.
I hope life improves your mode of person-hood.
>. Additionally, maybe not everyone knows what "stock" refers to
It's a fucking cooking board. If people don't know what "stock" is then why are they here? It's one of the most fundamental parts of cooking.
>which is more efficient at conveying my intended message?
The original, correct, term. If people don't know what that means they are welcome to look it up using a dictionary, or the online equivalent.
>getting blasted for saying broth instead of stock
salty bunch, aren't ya? or I guess it would be accurate to use the proto-germanic word "saltom" because age defines relevance.
Also for the fun of continuing this shit-flinging extravaganza here is a tidbit I pulled off wikipedia
"The difference between broth and stock is one of both cultural and colloquial terminology but certain definitions prevail. Stock is the liquid produced by simmering raw ingredients: solids are removed, leaving a highly flavored liquid. This yields classic stock as made from beef, veal, chicken, fish and vegetables.
Broth differs in that it is a basic soup where the solid pieces of flavoring meat or fish, along with some vegetables, remain. It is often made more substantial by adding starches such as rice, barley or pulses.
Traditionally, broth contained some form of meat or fish; however, nowadays it is acceptable to refer to a strictly vegetable soup as a broth"
Considering I do leave the bits of fat and meat in my BROTH I will continue calling it such.
If in US, start with bread. wheat/flour is best $/calorie, even beating rice (costco prices for bulk, walmart for others)
$0.45 Homemade bread 1883cal 46.5g Protein
3.5x ==$0.09 1 cup Flour 455__13
1x ==$0.11 1 Tbsp Butter 100__0
1x ==$0.03 1.5tsp yeast 13__1
2x ==$0.02 1 Tbsp Sugar 59__0
$0.19 1 banana 105__1.3
$0.66 handful dried cherries 130__1
$0.28 16 Wheat Thins 140__2
$0.33 1 can Coke 140__0
$0.17 2tbsp Peanut Butter 190__7
$0.32* 1/4cup(dry) Chickpeas 110__11
$0.86* 1 Chicken tender 190__12
$0.25* 1/4Cup Peanuts 170__8
$0.20* Chicken Ramen 380__10
$0.38 Ramen instant lunch 290__7
$0.27* 1/2 cup pasta sauce 90__2
no, it's because you said "bone broth", as in, stressing that it's made from bones. only plebs to whom this is a foreign concept and who think you can make "stock" from little cubes actually need this reminder.