>>7258119 Well I'm not eating that, because tofu gives me the shits and other stomach distress. I'm going to try tempeh though, because I hear it's better on the stomach (for soy intolerant people) and healthier overall because it's less processed.
post some damn food! --- I made lentil and sweet potato and mushroom patties which i have since put on an open faced sandwich with avocado, arugula, and creamy garlic dressing. I also omitted the rice and subbed polenta with masa.
roasted garlic dressing- 7 oz. (half a package) soft tofu 1 Tbs olive oil juice from a whole lemon ¼ tsp salt 2 Tbs milk (I used almond) ½ tsp vinegar (I used white wine vinegar ¼ onion (½ if you love onion like i do) 1 head roasted garlic about ⅛ tsp red pepper flakes
HOOLLLLLLYYYYY SHIT. They are fucking amazing. they taste like actual food. I bought 5 more boxes the next day, I'm now obsessed with them and living in fear that there aren't enough dirty hippies that can eat anything a tiny bit spicy and they'll cancel them
why do people do this? shouldn't the thought of eating an animal be repulsive to you?
I'm not n omnivore autist, my sister is vegetarian and I support her, I cook meatless every time she visits home and I generally don't have any problems with it - but then she eats fucking vegan nuggets, vegan mince meat, vegan sausages, vegan bacon, vegan schnitzel, anything really. it just makes me feel so odd, like she's only in it for the "alternative lifestyle" ride.
on the other hand though - if I make a sauce out of vegetables that have been in the oven with - say a chicken or a turkey then she won't eat it. even if they didn't touch each other.
Omnis need to understand that these types of vegetarian knock of variations of meat exist purely for 2 reasons. The first is that they provide a lot of protein, which veggiefags have less of in their diet. The other is that they are fuck easy to make, meaning we don't have to go through the prep and cooking involved with most vegetables.
>>7258559 >The other is that they are fuck easy to make, meaning we don't have to go through the prep and cooking involved with most vegetables. This is a thing. I cook vegan dinners most nights. We don't do canned beans, so I have a pressure cooker. Most nights I spend between half an hour and an hour cooking.
I don't eat fake meat all that often, but keep it around for when I'm in a rush.
you completely missed the point of my post, friends.
I don't give a shit about the labeling as I usually keep my autism to myself..
What I really wonder about is:
>shouldn't the thought of eating an animal be repulsive to you?
why go all out to find a substitute for meat when vegetarians/vegans usually say (no, that doesn't mean You in particular, just my experience) that the thought of eating meat is repulsive? that's what I don't get.
b-but.. you could make a beautiful, delicious porcini mushroom schnitzel.. 100% vegan, 100% delicious, doesn't look like actual fucking meat
why do companies KNOWINGLY try to replicate meat dishes, make vegan food that looks EXACTLY like actual meat? why not make it look different, give it a different name? why do they consciously want it to look like, have the same texture as and brand it as "meat substitute"?
the whole fucking point of a vegan/veggie diet to me is that there is no meat SUBSTITUTE, you decided for yourself that eating dairy and vegetables is completely sufficient.
I eat vegetarian like twice or thrice a week even though I LOVE meat. yet I would never ever, ever even think about cooking a vegan schnitzel that looks like an actual schnitzel. that's fucking retarded to me.
You have unlimited options with just vegetables alone. There are millions, literal millions of scrumptious vegetarian dishes, yet people eat this supermarket trash.
>>7258591 >why not make it look different, give it a different name? That is most vegan food. >why do they consciously want it to look like, have the same texture as and brand it as "meat substitute"? Because just because someone has given up meat doesn't mean they don't want a sausage every now and then.
>>7258886 >I think vegans are preachy and have no sense of boundaries >I know what to do! I'll shitpost and complain in *their* containment thread! Do you see how hypocritical and stupid you sound? If you're not going to contribute please leave the thread.
>>7258886 >vegans just straight up go out of their way to make everyone else feel guilty I have only experienced this with young people who have recently become vegans. They're as insufferable as the kids who discover their sexuality and suddenly want to rub everybody else's nose in it. Most old vegans I know never really bring it up. The most annoying they get is raising an eyebrow at people eating stuff like hot dogs or nuggers (which I find funny anyways).
I live in a house with 3 girls and another guy, the girls are vegan, I eat fish, and the guy is a normal omni. Me and the other guy eat Vegan 95% of the time anyway because we share meals as a house. Fake meat is silly, but the suggestion that eating Vegan is difficult is either bullshit or demonstrates how bad a cook your are. Vegan = more beans and mushrooms, maybe more herbs and spices.
>>7258591 >>7259464 I also want to mention that most processed vegan food should not be a staple in your diet, just like hot dogs in an omni diet shouldn't be a staple. They are usually high sodium and heavily processed. Treat it like junk food.
Also, the idea of replicating meat dishes is good for vegan newbies. It's the idea of still eating foods you used to eat that appeals to people. This might make the transition easier for some.
>>7259464 There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it I have now surpassed.
My pain is constant and sharp, and I do not hope for a better world for anyone. In fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape.
>>7260106 Many are self righteous without an actual understanding of what they're talking about. A very basic understanding of nutrition and an even worse understanding of the impact certain fruits and vegetable farming practices have on the environment (California water crisis). A condescending attitude toward people who don't have the luxury to think about where their food comes from because of much more immediate issues and stresses in their lives is also common.
You can say this thread is just about recipes, but there is always the issue of people trying to take moral/ethical superiority without any actual understanding of the issue.
>>7260147 Stop shillpostin' as if vegetarian and vegan mean the same thing.
>>7260120 >farming practices have on the environment (California water crisis). You realize that there's huge animal agriculture in California, right?
Also, I have never in my life heard or seen a vegan complain about some piss-poor non-country citizen eating animal products, especially that are given to them for free. The closest I've seen is them be agitated at these idiots having cows who eat take up tons of water and food in Africa just for some fucking milk.
>>7260174 No you don't get it That cow in Africa can use resources that a human can't, like grass and fetid water.
The issue with California currently is almonds and other water heavy crops that sell for a large amount of money on the market. Almonds are worth more than cows chickens or pigs. Tree nuts and certain fruits consume a fuck ton of water and need heavy fertilization and pesticides. These farmers are raking in the money and are actually racing to plant more trees and dig deeper wells before their neighbors do due to how much money they're making off these crops.
Meat farmers on the other hand? In the west beef prices are rising because there's not enough alfalfa and other feed being grown for feed. They're running out of food for their animals and having to cull them when they're still unfit for sale. It's fucked up because these cash crops and the rush to grow them is killing animals. There are literally people stealing animal feed because it's so rare due to farm space being used instead to grow heavy water using cash crops. Why do you think corn and soybeans are such highly subsidized crops? The government is trying to help support the farms that are dying because of the drought caused by almonds and other tree nuts and fruit.
>>7260191 >fetid water. But you can grow human-consumables from this.
>grass Kill it, it takes your water and contributes nothing. Or alternatively, realize you're African and don't have grass in food scarcity situations outside of rain forests.
>I swear it's not the meat! Mind giving me a source on the whole "It's the damn plants!" I know there's a high concentration of factory-farms in South California as well as some throughout the rest of the state, as well as more average farms.
I know the droughts down here in Texas are 99.5% due to the fucking cattle and chicken farms here. Literally everywhere, even on the outskirts of towns you will see a good hundred plus cows roaming. I've heard similar to a lesser degree in Cali.
I'm a normal human male and not suffering from mental disorders so I am therefore not vegan nor vegetarian. However, most of my diet is vegetarian friendly and about half of that stuff is suitable for vegans.
Last night, I cooked up a stir-fry of sweet potato noodles, green Chinese cabbage, carrot, Korean sweet pepper, red bell pepper, mushrooms, onion, sesame oil, soy sauce and sugar. Topped with toasted sesame seeds and snippets of seaweed paper. Sides of pickled white cabbage, potato stewed in sweetened soy sauce and fried-then-marinated tofu.
Tonight, I'm cooking cabbage risotto. It's not vegan as it will have cheese. I'm also cooking a black bean soup for tomorrow's lunch at work, which is vegan.
Also tomorrow, I'll be cooking a [mostly] vegan rice plate for dinner. Rice with five side dishes: carrot in coconut curry, morning glory leaf curry, stir-fried mushroom curry, aubergine and okra in tomato curry and roasted cauliflower curry. The thing that makes it not vegetarian is the chilli sauce I serve it with since it's made of smoked fish. Other than that, though, it's completely vegan. Surprisingly enough, all of that takes only about 30-40 minutes to set up for and cook.
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