>>8837596 I don't really wear gothic nor am I a fan of Moitie but this still makes me very sad. It feels wrong. Is there a reason behind this? Are they just looking to bring in new material or did something happen?
>>8837596 What the literal fuck? I don't wear MmM, but this is fucked up. Mana is one of the symbols of lolita, imo, and as he himself said, he's always been in the bibles. Who gives a fuck if the publisher doesn't want him anymore, I'm willing to bet there are a decent number of people who wouldn't be buying those books if they hadn't gotten into lolita through bands like MM or MdM and figures like Mana.
>>8837607 I think it's a personal decision of Mana to be involved less with the fashion. Two years ago one of his band members died iirc and a couple of years ago a print designer left and I'm not sufe if they have found a good replacement yet. Fact is, that Moities releases are getting less and less, original prints are getting less, and I think it all has to do with Mana's loss of a good friend and the loss of a good designer. I can image that the brand doesn't do well financially right now because of it, and Mana stepping back on costs and work a little seems reasonable desu.
>>8837625 Did you read the post? Mana didn't agree with the decision. Moitie has always had far fewer releases. The death of K (and Kami) were horrible, but MdM are releasing a new album this year, so Mana is still wanting to be active in the music scene. His sadness at not being wanted in the G&LB anymore indicates that he also sees a long term future for Moitie. I was worried when all the stores shut down, but Moitie items have always been slow to release and sell out. Even Iron Gate and Cathedral took a long time.
>>8837647 It's true that Moitie hasn't evolved as much as some other brands such as AP, Baby, Meta (and less so, IW), but they have definitely changed over time. Most noticeably, from around 2010 onwards. Moitie actually started doing ~trendy~ things like printed chiffon and longer dresses before most other brands. VM and MM don't change, but no one shits on them for that. While black x navy is Moitie's staple colourway, they also have items in many other colours such as white, red, cornflower blue, emerald green, gold, pink (usually an accent), etc.
One of Moitie's mistakes is not releasing enough socks, bags, shoes, parasols, etc. Everyone needs more of these, yet they never release them, especially the last three. Moitie also hasn't released any bloomers for almost a decade.
>>8837596 This is just awful of them to make a decision like this out of nowhere. It really makes me lose hope for the future of the fashion. You don't just get rid of a fashion icon who basically birthed gothic Lolita. It makes me wonder if part of the decline of gothic lolita was due to some conscious decisions like this. There's no reason to axe Mana and his brand, of all things, unless you have clear intentions to steer the fashion more towards sweet or classic. The wanting new blood excuse is bullshit. Lolita is still to small and niche to show favoritism to only certain brands. Do they want to kill Moitie?
I bet there's some new people on staff since this looks like internal changes. It should be looked into and complained about to whoever can fix this.
This is so upsetting, fuck. His photos were always a highlight for me; even if I didn't care for the clothes showcased, the photography, makeup, hair, etc. we're always great to look at and inspiring.
I wish moitie would release more staple pieces as well; I'd go nuts for that stuff, but really I don't want to buy anythig from them now because I already have 5 solid color moitie dresses, so I really don't need another one of those and that's mostly what they have. Their OTKs are of incredibly quality, and are always so damn hard to find. I really wish I had more of those.
>>8837425 Thanks for reporting back, anon. I'm the anon that tried disinfectant spray, just spraying it it still smelled faintly of sweat, but after washing it as well the sweat smell is gone. You can still faintly smell the (at least nicely-scented) disinfectant on it, but the sweat has gone.
>>8837733 >Their OTKs are of incredibly quality, and are always so damn hard to find. I really wish I had more of those. i got a pair of their new blue rose ones and really like them. how do the new ones compare to the old?
>>8838015 I've been buying lots of second hand items off Y!J since the yen went downhill last year and this news makes me happy. Canada's dollar hasn't been doing well either so now is a good time to buy from Canadian sellers if you live in the US.
>>8838015 OH HELL YEAH NIGGA Plus oil shares are up slightly now aren't they, since the US is slowing production with the weak price. Hopefully they calm the fuck down so commodities stop sliding downhill and causing mass stock selloffs. I was getting so depressed about the dollar falling since I buy mainly from Japanese secondhand stores
>>8838062 Not that anon but I doubt they meant Meta. Probably meant the brands' ever changing aesthetics and trendhopping (AP's sweet/OTT sweet/OTT classic/religious motifs, IW's sweet pieces and abundance of electric blue carousel/crosses/unicorn prints, etc) Meta having no consistent theme or aesthetic and doing their own thing is nothing new.
>>8837951 I'm not sure, honestly. The newest pair I have is pic related, and I got them in either 2009 or 2010. I must have worn the damn things 20-30 times by now and they still show no signs of wear at all; plus they're super stretchy, comfortable and extra long (which is great because I'm too damn tall), way more so than Baby/AATP OTKs. I really hope to get the ivory some day. I even fell in these damn things one day and cut my knee UNDER the socks and it didn't harm them one bit.
>>8838352 >from AP USA site Sephora's Bishojo Basics $50.00 ***Sephora's Bishojo Basic Party*** Join us and our friends at Sephora Powell as we learn the basics of the lolita look. Learn how to create that innocent doe eye, or perfect your lash application. This is your chance to ask a make up specialist the question you always wanted to ask! You will also enjoy the luxury of private shopping time at Sephora and Angelic Pretty Shop. And wrap it up in our shop with your own photoshoot with photographer Sakiko Hill!
*Event will take place on February 21st 2016 (Sunday) from 9AM~12PM. *Hands on make-up Tutorial will be done inside Sephora located on Powell (walking distance from Angelic Pretty San Francisco store.) *Each attendee will receive Sephora $25 gift certificate!! *Light food and beverage will be served. *Purchase of $25 or more is required for eligibility to purchase ticket. *Qualifying purchases must be made starting from January 21st 2016 from the Angelic Pretty San Francisco website or physical store location in San Francisco. *Purchase of gift certificate is not eligible for the $25 requirement. Purchases made using gift certificates as a form of payment is eligible. *Tickets are bound to the purchaser and are not transferable. *Physical tickets will not be mailed out. *Will receive confirmation email a week prior to event.
>>8838432 so spend $25 at AP in order to buy $50 ticket that includes $25 gift card, so you're not saving any money at this point... It's decent since it also includes a photoshoot with a pro and makeup application tips.
I would personally rather do one of those LUSH parties instead...
>>8838448 >Estimated to ship out from Angelic Pretty San Francisco Branch early April 2016. idek, i'm part of the MTO batch that's already coming March-April 2016, so this is kinda surprising, "holy shit not again" aside
>>8838448 http://angelicpretty-usa.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=279&products_id=11095 >mfw that's... that's not the black x white but the black x black... AP please..... >mfw i'm actually fucking crossing my fingers
>>8838457 Same. I usually wear gothic lolita and sort of liked it, even if it's a bit sweet, but passed all these times. It's practically throwing itself at us leftover people who have sat on the fence this long. I think I should just buy a skirt for casual wear (since a unique print this is no longer) and give into Unholy Bandwagon.
>>8838501 I had zero issues with this release and the last few. I was able to go back and grab a pair of socks. To be honest, I had a slow internet speed last year and it caused problems with buying items during releases. I upgraded my connection since I needed it to work from home and it loads completely normal.
>>8838511 I agree. The only thing that sold out is the ivory headbow so far.
>>8838514 Yes, you can go back and add accessories to a new order so long as you follow their point rule. It's usually 1 dress, 1 headbow, and 1 accessory (socks). I always check out with a main piece then go back and add accessories. I haven't had any orders canceled on me and I've done it at least 10 times.
>>8838506 >>8838511 >>8838514 >>8838516 >>8838519 >>8838525 Ok anons, after 20 minutes of trying it went through, not sure what the issue was to begin with but I saw that error page more times than I've ever wanted to. I ended up getting the lav op and accessories. I'm honestly glad it wasnt as bloodbath, I would have been fucked
>luster after AP's tiara bag after Marine Kingdom release >actively search, miss listings on the rare occasion someone sells >await throwing money at AP with every regal release hoping the bag would be rereleased >never happens >give in and buy replica last week >fucking AP decided to release it NOW with new release that's so fucking print unrelated
>>8838105 Not her but frequent mover anon. Thinking of putting up some black sweet stuff. I was trying to sell some pastel sweet stuff but it didn't sell and I just got two more dresses in the mail. I don't have any active listings because I'm trying to figure out when to sell things (like when do people start buying summer stuff? When do people buy more one pieces? I really want to sell a few things)
>>8839330 See where the pointy bit of the pin is? There's a notch above it that you hook you nail in and rotate it down. That lets you get the pin out of the clasp like normal. It's to stop the brooch from undoing itself.
>>8839225 Lel, the tssb $1000+ MTO dresses sometimes sell out in less than an hour, so I'm not taking any chances here. If the dress will even be so easy to order! I have no idea about Aps online shop to be honest, and I'm not familiar with tenso and don't want to risk anything. Which is why I need a reliable SS.
>>8837951 I own pic related in white (released 2010), and like the other anon I tripped and scraped my knee under the sock, while the sock itself was unharmed. The elastic ribbons are still stretchy and look new, and I haven't once made a hole in the toes while I usually can't wear a pair of socks for more than a few hours without somehow walking holes into them.
>>8839024 Reminds me a lot of the pompadour OP they've put out before. I don't usually follow AP but I liked how historically inspired that one was. Maybe this one will be similar in price/ popularity?
I wish there was an active online comm specifically for trading, without direct selling. I could post an ad in the various sales groups but they're so active with DS posts pushing everyone else down with bumps that I worry my WTTs will go mostly unseen, even if I also bump my posts. and i can't post my wishlist on cgl out of fear of someone identifying me and outing that i go on cgl.
What's a good english book that gives a decent portrayal of lolita fashion with accurate information? My mother and grandmother think it looks cute and want to learn about the fashion I'm into, but they're more readers and don't go online much. All I keep finding are street snap type books and I don't really want to buy a general "harajuku fashion" book with dated decora and random goths in it.
>>8839708 it is ouji. aristocrat is not just ouji with long pants. it is like lolita in that respect; everything from Misako's kawaii uguu coords to Fanny Rose's understated Mary Magdalene coords are lolita.
pic related is part of a GLB feature for ouji styles to wear through the week, for example.
meanwhile, aristocrat has a level of decadence and a particular drape to it.
>>8839727 How is >>8839679 strictly ouji and not aristocratic? With that roland and jabot blouse? There's really nothing boyish about the whole thing. If anything it's a bit weirdly mismatched with military boots and a rough workwear looking belt. It's also lacking any of the ott or silliness of ouji.
And in Japan people tend to refer to aristocrat as ouji too, hence maybe your confusion.
>>8839727 I know what aristocrat is, I wear it. There's a reason why I described it as being 'closer to a more casual male aristocrat' look. I like the look as a great example of how to tone the style down for a more everyday look, while retaining key aspects of the more mature, aristocrat style.
Even the long trousers looks in what I consider to be ouji retain a sense of playful youthfulness to them. See Buttcape's Lolita-Aristocrat-Ouji family triangle diagram.
>>8839759 A jaboted blouse and a Roland can be used in ouji and aristocrat alike. It's the way that they are used in an outfit is what marks the difference to me.
Both your picture of Mana and the guy in >>8839679 can both be classed as casual aristo in my eyes. The first guy clearly has elements from aristocrat in his style, but it's still fairly relaxed as an overall look, it's not as full-on as aristocrat can go, even in the male variant.
>>8839784 i wear it also. on the lolita family triangle (it pleases me to see this term in use) i think that guy's coord is in the middle space between ouji and aristo, but if i had to put it in one category i would call it ouji, based on my research.
i know the Western comm uses "aristocrat" in a different way than Japan does, and that most of what people know comes from Western tradition. i am confident that Japanese oujis would consider the coord in question to be ouji. the omage may even have been used in a certain article on ouji overseas but i am having a difficult time locating said article.
>>8839806 The maturity of the look overall is what puts the look into aristocrat for me rather than the more childish look of ouji, which to me has more accessories most of the time. There's a simple, restrained feel to this outfit. Technotropism's pictured outfit however, is definitely ouji. There's the key difference, even though both outfits have long trousers and long boots in them. Technotropism's outfit is closer to the halfway point in my opinion.
>>8839791 Boz considers pic related to be ouji-kei; what do you think of that?
i think there is a bias toward seeing men/masculinity in ouji as "aristocrat" because they do not tend to wear the same cutesy, girly ouji that women do. but this is like saying Fannie Rosie and Princess Peachie wear different fashions. because FR's coords are not as silly or OTT as PP's.
>>8839817 for me, the main difference between ouji and aristo is not the youthful/maturity scale but the fanciful/decadent one. ouji has elements of fantasy to it while aristocrat is more grounded in gothic fashion tropes. ouji also regularly pulls from Rococo fashion, while aristocrat lingers around Victorian and modern styles without going all Rose of Versailles.
i think the unwillingness to follow Japanese terms for a Japanese fashion is a bit weird 2bh.
>>8839843 Not an unwillingness to follow the Japanese terms for me. More that I'm using terminology as I see it used in the West for ease of communication combined with my own views on the differences based on several years of wearing what we refef to as 'aristocrat'. I dont call aristocrat EGA though, that's for Moitie's take on it.
>>8839873 i can see that. i think that is the most common view, and i can respect that you are making an educated choice.
for me, i used to tell people not to use "kodona" as a term, but then realized i was being a hypocrite by saying "kodona" wasn't okay but "aristocrat" outside of EGA was. both are Western categories based on Western aesthetic interpretations of ouji and Japanese goth. maybe i am inclined to this view because i wear it alone and spend too much time researching Japanese sources, where the terms (kodona and aristocrat) aren't relevant. if i was more involved in the Western community i might see it differently.
>>8839880 no more than lolitas like Lovely Lor imo (which is to say, not at all)
>>8839843 If you were to follow Japanese terms you'd call all of it ouji and you wouldn't make this sort of distinction between ouji and aristocrat. You can't use pictures of swans labeled "bird" and tell someone that swans aren't actually swans but birds.
>>8840417 pic related: crappily-assembled aristocrat collage. these would never be mistaken for ouji; it seems to be a separate fashion with little in common. dreade's coord is much closer to the ouji silhouette for me. even the GLB has used "ouji" in its desceiption of certain of Mana's looks (see >>8837877; to me, it is an example of EGA that could just as well be ouji, like how some lolita coords would not look out of place in a strictly vintage, gothic, or steampunk scene).
to me, it is not so much about swan vs bird as it is dessert vs breakfast. some dishes are distinctly one or the other, and some could be either depending on the context.
but i understand that in the Western community, aristocrat is used to mean a "more serious, with a lower hemline" version of both lolita and ouji, rather than a separate but overlapping style. if dreades (who tagged his outfit as both, cause why not) called it just aristo, i would not debate it in casual conversation. i know this level of pedantry is more academic than practical.
>>8840439 All of your 'aristocrat' examples are Moitie, who are only one brand that caters to this style. Atelier Boz, and others also produce clothes that we refer to as 'homme/male/masc aristocrat'. Moitie's stuff is EGA. If you look at what Boz produce, and at Buttcape's family triangle diagram, you can see that one of the guystyle examples has long, narrow trousers. But if you look at the 'halfway' point between aristocrat and ouji, you can see that the overlapping pieces have long trousers mainly, but they have an edge of the more playful aspect of ouji, including the headwear accessories. I tell the difference by how something is accessorised, and how the overall outfit looks. There's a reason why I said that I think that dreade's outfit to me looks more like 'aristocrat' (as we've come to see it in the West), but more toned down, and isn't as full on as a lot of aristocrat outfits. The choice of footwear also helps add to that feel, combined with the lack of headwear. It's interesting to compare how these styles are perceived and referred to in he West verses in Japan. I think if this discussion is going to continue, it might be worth moving it to the Ouji/Boystyle thread rather than keeping it here in the Lolita General.
>>8840473 >I think if this discussion is going to continue, it might be worth moving it to the Ouji/Boystyle thread rather than keeping it here in the Lolita General. happily! i am enjoying the discussion since this is something i have wrestled with and been conflicted about. i am currently samefagging the hell out of /ouG/ (and about to sleep) but i can dump a few examples of boystyle coords and how i would categorize them to kickstart discussion.
What do you do when there's something you want on y!auctions but there's no proof picture? And I'm looking for a new shopping service that has different payment options other than PayPal because the one I'm normally use it's on hiatus.
>>8840557 shame, I've taken a liking to black and grey. extra question, what's the difference between embroidered and non-embroidered? lolibrary doesn't really say anything about it as far as I can see...
>>8840566 I actually went to investigate (I'm still not accepted to Lolita Updates so I need to go to the group page if I want to see anything) and people are saying there's unlimited black and limited grey available. any SS recommendations? preferably one that is ok with marking packages down a bit. sorry for the new questions, I've never ordered from taobao before
>>8841254 Except that's not what she wrote lmfao. She only mentions it because Dolores's nickname is Lolita, and that's it. If you're going to try to take jabs at Misako you could at least do 2 seconds of research.
>>8841359 Someone should take pics when they're done (though I know there's probably a policy against photography). I wonder if AP is going to change their image soon since a lot of their upcoming releases lean towards a sweet-classic hybrid style. Plus all that MTO cash has to be going to something big.
Has anyone bought from "SWLolita"? Someone posted a cute dress from them on Lacemarket, but they want double of what they went for (minus shipping) but it's super cute so I was thinking of getting it if the quality was good.
I'm currently losing weight (I've got about 20lbs left to go) and I'm not sure which size to get. Currently my waist is 73cm, but my bust is 100cm. Should I just go for the Large and get it taken in? Or get a medium and hope that by the time I get to my gw my tits are small enough?
>>8841502 Have you ever lost that much weight before as an adult and so far have you lost any from your boobs? Some people don't lose any off their boobs for like... 10kg, and even then it's only like 2-3cm, others lose it from the boobs first then their waist. If you haven't lost much from your chest chances are you are not going to get that much smaller.
>>8841502 I'm just going to say that from experience, size up. I have a 90cm bust and 68cm waist, so I thought the size S would fit me because I didn't want my waist to be swimming, even if I was on the edge of the bust size, and when I got it it was TINY on me; in bust and sleeve length, to the point where I couldn't wear it at all. I sized up and got a large, which was too big on me, but it made the lengths really great and the fact that it was too large on me gave it a really billowy look that was really flattering. It's a babydoll OP, even if it doesn't appear like that in the stock photos, so take that into account as well.
If someone has a 90-95cm bust, I'd recommend the large for them. You may need a size larger than L, but for sure do not get a medium.
>>8841559 Yeah, if you lose another 4-5cm then the large would fit really great! With that dress it's really better to go a few cm under the max bust, so you should be good, even if you just use a really good bra with it at your current size.
>>8841657 They're asking your opinion of the collection, not the label itself.
>>8841645 I think it's interesting that AP is trying to compete with Baby's more elaborate pieces. I wonder if it's just because of the rise of classic and if it'll make a lasting change in their style.
>Browse AP US site "Oh, I should pre-order some OTKs here. It would be nice to just buy shit simply without an SS." >put two OTKs in the cart >calculate shipping >18 dollars from San Fran to NYC >for two little OTKs
>>8841670 speaking as a seller who is frequently having to use priority mail, blame USPS's priority mail shipping prices, not them >I hate USPS shipping prices >HATE >but especially hate priority mail shipping prices I'm sure AP hates them too
Maybe we can do a compilation of known lavender label vs pink label items. It'd be interesting to see what dresses AP decided to put in which category, give us a clue about what the lavender label is all about. I can start going through my AP collection and listing which ones are lavender and which ones are pink after I get home (I think it's mostly pink. I pretty much gravitate towards sweet)
>>8841645 What else is in the lavender label aside from Antoinette Decoration? I want the Antoinette Decoration print, but I'm pretty surprised a ruffly, poofy dress with cakes on it is going into the lavender label. I'd have thought lavender is for stuff that's more borderline goth/classic like Holy Lantern.
>>8841715 wait, they charged you more AFTER it came in? definitely threaten to leave negative feedback and possibly reporting them to the lacemarket mods for not being more clear and see what they do. if the lm mods take forever to respond then take it to the heads of the sales groups.
>>8841670 Baby is just as bad. I paid $11 for a tiny little hair clip. It arrived in a giant flat rate shipping box. No wrapping, postcards or anything included. A small padded envelope would have been easier on everyone.
Anons, is it better to sell something from the US while I'm here or wait until I move within this month to France and sell it. I have space in my stuff to bring it. It's not a very popular item so do i try to push it selling before I go or should I just list it and change the listing location when I move? I know Europeans like to stick to buying within the EU but I also know French buyers can be a pain or flaky.
>>8841875 If you can realistically mail it out before you leave then put it up now, and the day before you move, take it down if it hasn't sold and re-list from France. But the one problem I see is if there is an issue and it has to be returned to sender. It'll be going to an address you're no longer at.
>>8842070 Not related but I haven't been to that group in months and lol'd hard at the pinned "no trolling" post
>>8842080 >>8842085 My print screen button doesn't want to cooperate right now so here's a copypaste of her bullshit:
"I think the lack of women in color in lolita is really sad.
I think it's more tragic that so many lolitas bend over backwards to justify the racism and colorism rampant in the fashion. It's not okay because it's a Japanese fashion (there are dark-skinned natives in Japan who face horrible oppression). It's not okay because white girls face "oppression" too (you're a literal fool if you think a few critical comments on your coord are the same as people calling you a nigger who doesn't belong in the fashion because your ancestors were slaves). It's not okay because there are WoC blogging on Tumblr (especially because we STILL get shit on no matter what we do). And it's especially not okay just because a few Uncle Toms pop up in every discussion of racism to say that they personally have never felt oppressed, so everyone else is wrong.
Lolita is an awesome fashion, and I think it's really pathetic that some people try to play gatekeepers by excluding people from full participation in the fashion, or by discouraging people from participating in the fashion through harassment and insults, based on the color of their skin."
>Why aren't there more POCs in the lolita industry? >You mean Japanese people don't count? >Well, I mean African American people specifically. >What about [indie brands], which are American and run by POC? >Well, I mean in Japan/Kera/the GLB >Japan is mostly Japanese, why would they do that? >THEY USE WHITE GIRLS! COLONIALISM! OPPRESSION! JAPAN IS RACIST! >etc. etc. etc.
Basically the same damned circular discussion that happens when someone brings up a wish for more non-white lolitas in Japanese lolita ads.
>>8842080 >I don't live in my ~*own safe space*~, but thanks for playing! My life experiences include gems like being beaten up by police for my skin color and being brutally raped for being a "nigger bitch"
>>8842134 Even it did happen....why post it on a fb group about dressing in frilly girly clothes. This isn't your therapy hour. Go write in your journal or call a friend if you need to talk about it.....
>>8842160 Well she's known for greatly exaggerating the truth (i.e. how long she's be in lolita, the Maikodolly situation) so it's probably more like a police officer brushed against her and a man cat called her on the street >>8842219
Heart E doesn't really have a fanbase to pull buyers in with. You could probably still move it if you list it at like USD30, tops USD50. Take good photos, including preferably a cute coord photo so girls can see how cute it can be. I don't know if that's "worth listing" for you.
>>8842070 She has done this before if anyone else remembers.. Same, "I need to see "poc" in lolita because i don't know if my skin will go with the clothes." crap. undertones are where it's at, seeing someone with dark skin looking good in a dress doesn't mean it will look good on you. The people complaining about foundation are right, there isn't only one dark skin tone and it's kind of inappropriate of her to imply that therr is only one like this...
My friend and I swapped dresses, but for some reason, my deodorant failed to work and now her dress smells bad in the underarm areas. I feel so terrible! I haven't had this problem before. I have two weeks to give it back and I want to know if there's a way to spot clean it or just clean it in general. It's an unprinted bodyline dress. Do I handwash it in cold water? Would that be safe?
>>8842417 It's Bodyline and unprinted you will be fine to machine wash. if you are still worried, machine wash on a cold, delicate cycle inside a lingerie bag and you will be fine. Honestly I wash all my brand solids like this (MM,VM,IW) have never had a problem.
>>8842070 This makes me want to vomit t b h. Acting like Japanese brands have to cater to you as a black women (because clearly lighter skinned Asians aren't real "POC") when their country and probably over 90% over their market is white or East-Asian, is fucking ridiculous. Brands have no real incentive and no obligation to use darker skinned people; race politics are a totally different game in places like Japan, Korea, and China; and you acting like everything should cater to your Western idea of racism and oppression is only pointing out how ignorant and ego/Western-centric you are. The shitty thing is some of these people are the same people who will scream about cultural appropriation. Honestly lolita has made me dislike a lot of people for discussions like this.
>>8842101 >your ancestors were slaves This is such a tired argument. Most racist idiots are definitely NOT thinking of that when being racist. When are people gonna realize that it's just hatred. I've had to deal with racism my whole life. It's not because a long time ago some people came into my home country and oppressed my people. It's because people see my face, notice I'm not white, and they don't like that. That's literally what racism is every single fucking time.
I wish people would get their head out the past god damn
As another "PoC", the oscars are a goddamn sham where famous actors go and jerk each other off.
The fact we're giving this any lip service only gives credence to them as having any credibility when really it's all about whatever the fuck goes on in their head that year.
I mean, fuck, most of the time the people nominating best animated awards haven't even watched 80-90% of them.
It's an arbitrary awards ceremony set up by an arbitrary committee and should never be used as a measuring stick of how any one diverse group perform, especially 'PoC' who if I recall are much more diverse in their skillsets than you imply.
Also, stop using that term. I'm Asian, but I don't think you meant me when you meant 'PoC.' I'm sick of simultaneously getting lumped in and then having my issues disregarded in the sea of black issues. I don't want your bullshit.
>>8842661 Not really. I handmake my pettis and hair accessories so I don't have to force myself to buy them and I'm pretty much a bolero/blouse maniac. The only issue is that I'd rather buy myself a fifth solid black dress than I buy a second black handbag. I've already got one why more?
>>8842661 I just want all the dresses, and my bell petti just deflated, and I want to spend the money on another dress, but I need another petti and accessories and shoes. But then a dress of CC came up an I needed it. Can't wear it without a bell petti.
>>8842689 I don't remember every blouse I bought, but These two were pretty recent and I even bought them in 2 colorways: http://de.aliexpress.com/item/Blue-Wine-Red-Black-Chiffon-Blouse-2015-Autumn-New-Fashion-Womens-Tops-Long-Sleeve-Peter-Pan/32541430983.html http://de.aliexpress.com/item/Plus-Size-S-3XL-2014-Fashion-Spring-Summer-Women-s-Elegant-Temperament-Chiffon-Shirt-Blouse-Women/1745111715.html
>>8842730 I've owned and sold enough bodyline Dresses and blouses to know how the quality will turn out. Not milanoo-tier but lacemonster-y enough to never consider it lolita. But lolita Fashion is so quality driven, it's completely okay for goth. My in-laws wear goth and they'd be all over this.
>>8842741 I'm really sorry for this. It was the first solid black dress i've seen after your post)
Also, bodyline's quality is awful for lolita but not so bad comparing with clothes from usual shops. It has 50% of cotton. lace is better, than usual and it's much cheaper. Goth shops sell even more crappy goods and it's really dear
>>8842750 please stop doing your russian smileys, this is an imageboard. if you want to convey an emotion use a picture.
I feel validated about my main piece thirst now, thanks gulls (though I guess I can't wear any of my dresses yet anyway because winter and northern hemisphere) anyone else prefer OPs to JSKs? I find that I love the OPs a lot more than the JSK cuts on new releases usually.
>>8842853 Can you wash velvet pieces in the washing machine? Or hand wash them? I usually bring them to the dry cleaners but they are fucking expensive in my country and if there is a way to save money, I'm all up for it.
>>8842588 Like the other anon said- it's all bullshit. I feel this way about every award ceremony. And political events. It's just a show. Who gives a shit what it is. I assume you bring this up bc I mentioned /tv/ - I used to love that hobby. But everything is shit now.
>>8842617 >my ancestors were slaves too and I'm white as fucking snow white Where you from? Just curious
>>8842904 Do not wash velvet pieces in the machine, it'll ruin them. When I was 18, I put my favourite vintage velvet coat into my washing machine at 30 and it was ruined. Never again, just don't risk it.
>>8842904 Not sure what the circumstances are, but it's generally unnecessary to wash the entire dress and instead addressing spots like the under arms with a soak mixed with woolite should do you just fine. Velvet is usually cotton based, just handle it with care, don't wring it out, place it between towels and press.
>>8843051 Estonia - we were bitches for Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Russia and Poland. the commonly used term is serfdom but same shit, until the 1800s we were literally owned by our landlords and every girl's virginity was claimed by them
I know this question gets repeated all the time, but it never gets much of a satisfactory answer - is MLT legit or not for pettis? she gets recommended all the time but the fact that literally all of her feedback on her page is 5/5 and her prices are so low makes me kinda nervous
>>8842101 Why do people like this act like there needs to be a bare minimum of a race? Why do we have to convert black people to liking lolita if they like some other fashion? There's plenty of good black lolitas and other races in lolita fashion, so Wonderfinch can shove it up her ass.
If you wanted to get technical about it, whites and blacks are both minorities in lolita fashion compared to asians. What does being a minority in lolita even mean? It affects literally nothing, other than you don't see as many photos of your race. I've literally never seen racism in lolita as it's a pretty global fashion now.
I used to have a shred of respect for Wonderfinch, but it looks like she drinks plentifully from SJW kool-aid, using amusing terms like "WoC" and "Uncle Toms" unironically in her sperging. Her projection gives a lot of milk, though.
>>8843118 not to blog, but i guess the fashion was always fun and we had fun together participating. but now she's so focused on efame and being popular, it feels like the fashion changed her for the worse?
i almost want to say this is something that happens often, but maybe i'm biased because of my own situation.
So Vierge Vampur is selling a new colorway of Meal Time OP on the 27th at la majie de parfum duox. I know they were selling the green and black colorways at another event last november so is there a chance they'll be releasing it again on their webshop any time soon?
>>8843055 The dress has to be cleaned properly. It smells like it was drained in sweat, like it was worn on a hot summer day and the person moved a lot and didn't use deodorant or something. If it were just the armpits, I'd try to spot clean it. But I'd still feel disgusted wearing it. I guess there is no way around the dry cleaners then.
I bought a dress that turned out to be missing some parts (wasn't mentioned in the listing) and when I brought it up with the seller, I was met with a "it's not my fault attitude". I've asked for a very small partial refund and haven't heard anything back. What do?
>>8843169 You're looking for a smart tailored fit that comes up high on the waist, between your natural waist and hip that doesn't dampen the poof of your petti. If you find something a little loose you can anyways have it tailored but something like shoulder width is much more tricky and costly.
>>8843185 Was this listing on LM or LSE? And did the photos show said missing parts? I know you said it "wasn't mentioned", but what about the "proof" photos?
If the photos showed the missing pieces, and they weren't sent, they're at fault. If the photos didn't show the missing pieces, you're sadly probably SOL for not having asked/noticed at the time I'm afraid.
LSE mods seem more sympathetic to these things than LM though, which is why I asked where the listing was.
>>8843189 LSE, and the pieces and the corset lacing weren't shown in the proof picture. Maybe I'll just forget about it, I'm annoyed by the principle of it, mostly. Especially since there was no markdown.
>>8843128 her actions are a symptom of social media culture, not lolita. it is not the fashion that changed her. she has changed, for reasons of her own. lolita is not stealing her from you; she herself is choosing online attention over you.
>>8842842 I love OPs with long sleeves. Especially long chiffon sleeves. I have big shoulders and arms, and I find that sleeves down to the elbow or 3/4 sleeves are very flattering to me. Too bad OPs are always the most expensive cut.
>>8843214 I got fucked over by a seller once. The dress was missing the corset lacing and had cat hair all over (like, really noticeable cat hair.) I'd leave a note in their feedback section, if I were you.
>>8843294 Hey how big are your shoulders? I have pretty big shoulders and kind of settled for not being able to wear OP'S but I want to so badly. If someone else with larger shoulders can then I definitely can.
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