>>8816256 Echoing I really dislike this sudden deluge of AP-esque star/pegasus/sky theme fad prints from IW. Sure it's only a handful amongst all their releases but in just one season they've already churned out... this is the 4th?
Of all of them this is at least the most tasteful in that it's a bit more reminiscent of their past embroidery prints. You could say they've already done things like this in the past like Astronomical Clock but imo that print with its classical illustrations and architectural elements is much more typical of IW than these more recent ones.
>>8816459 Of course they do, but only after they notice that something is popular.
I would say AP is often a trendsetter. But its hard for me to say without like a chronological list of what brands released and when. (RIP hellolace)
AP just puts shit out there and goes full force with it, people like it and then they know what to fall back on. "Oh lets shoehorn in some crosses cause holy lantern did well, lets put in some horses because DDC did great. "
Of course other brands take notice, and they take those popular elements and try to bank in on it. I'd say out of all the brands, Meta is just always off in its own world doing what the fuck ever. Raschelle lace dresses, bright yellow kimono prints, gobelin prints as far as the eye can see.
>>8816538 ugh I really wish I have been following brand releases. I'd love to make like a tumblr-timeline of releases. Unless there is already a tumblr out there by some special name. Did some googling but the only one I see hasn't been updated since 2014
its my bday soon and I found a dress I REALLY freaking want but i dont have enough for a ~real coord~ to go with it until i start my job in a couple months time but like....i kind of need normie clothes more? but i know if i dont get the dress now i wont see it again for a while/maybe ever.. what do i do gulls...
>>8816648 What's the dress? Certain things I haven't bought I've never seen again and regret a lot, but I am not as skinny as I used to be so they might not fit me now even if I had my dream dress from back then
>>8816648 You don't have to coord the dress the minute you get it, you can always buy the dress now before it dissapears, use the money you would have spent coording it on normie clothes and then when you've got the money together from your new job start putting a coord together
>you probably also don't really need the normie clothes unless you're freezing your ass off and only have a pair of shorts or something.
If she's working in a job where she wants to advance her career, and it's not something artsy or particularly welcoming of alt fashion, she will need normie clothes.
Anon, I know sales are already gone, but I've gotten a good work wardrobe under $200 just by lurking sales. As annoying as they are, signing up for online stores like the limited (that one especially), Ann Taylor, and Loft will alert you to really good deals from time to time. Also aliexpress will have some great prices on blouses if you can't wait that long. I'd be careful with skirts and bottoms since they need to be somewhat well fitted for work, but you can get away with loose chiffon blouses.
Also look into axes femme/l'est rose/liz lisa, and other casual jfash brands for pieces that are both suitable for work and lolita.
Best of luck. I'd say you can afford the dress but you need to start thinking about collecting some pieces that you can use at work - about 7-10 days worth to start at first. You'll have no trouble amassing a ridiculous collection afterwards if you find an interesting piece that strikes you from time to time.
>>8816667 its an oldschool btssb dress that ive never seen for sale!! >>8816673 this is so true honestly, like this is what half of my brain was thinking but the other half was like 'wtf stop spending money on dumb dresses' lol >>8816679 yeah, i mean i felt dumb about having to spend such a long time just to get ONE coord complete but its what would make me happiest in the end! >>8816692 im signed up to a few email subs and stuff, so ill actually start opening them to see what deals i can get i think haha. i love liz lisa and axes femme i just find it hard to not buy the tacky hime style stuff rather than the toned down stuff hahaha
but seriously thank you omg just these few replies have made me feel a lot better about it. i think im gonna get the dress.......omg....
>>8816698 unfortunately i dont read a whole lot of japanese so figuring out how to find old releases is pretty hard. hello lace had a pretty good archive, but I'm not sure if they added them by date, or just by month released. I'd like to start one starting this year at least. AP is really good at having images of their releases + exact date they will be out. All the other sites seem to go by reserve date, rather than release date. Which makes it hard for me to figure out what day they actually release them in the timeline..
If I were to just start at 2016, what does the thread consider to be major brands/worth keeping tabs on?
AP, Baby (aatp) , Meta, IW, JetJ..
I would throw moitie in there but I want to categorize mainly print releases.
>>8816751 I think those usually are the ones that hop on trends the most. Using chocolate as an example, some of the otome brands eventually were apart of that as well, since I think they should be documented too. JM, Leur Getter, and ETC I know had chocolate releases later. It'd be interesting to see how fast otome gets in on trends vs. the lolita brands.
>>8816447 Wow. I meant the poster was embarrassing. They thought it was AP. But damn, I guess no one here can read the flow of a thread properly because everyone always takes simple comments and blows them up.
Yall can have your tacky over done star prints, I'm going to get this shit in every cut, each in a different colorway. In fact I hope people continue to ignore it so it will be easier to get ahold of when it gets released.
It seems to be a list of virtues rather than a phrase -- Love, Faithfulness and Modesty. Faithfulness fits in with the print being violets. I don't know about Modesty, though.
On a different topic, I don't know whether to facepalm or laugh at the girls who feel the need to post "hope you all hate this, I'm going to buy it!". It looks like a thinly veiled request for validation. If the thread already hates your dress, just be thankful and go buy it quickly before it sellls out to the Japanese/Chinese lolitas. You don't need to keep announcing to cgl that you love it so much you want other people to hate it when they're already ignoring it.
>>8816648 OT but for normie clothes I'd recommend consignment sites like swap.com and thredup. I get most of my normie clothes through those, you can get new and like new stuff for cheap. with a referral code to thredup you get $20 to spend if you want one.
>>8817214 Different anon but what do you gulls usually wear for cons ? My previous experiences with heels were hell so I was trying to find loliable shoes with a very small or no heel but I don't find much things.
>>8817299 Orthopedic shoe pads really help a lot. I had plenty of shoes that were difficult to wear for more than a couple of hours (even non heels). There was just no arch support. But after shoe pads, I can wear it the whole day with no pain.
Right? There's time for gloating and posting your own photos after you've gotten your grabby hands on it. A surprising number of people who don't like the brand photos will turn around and love a dress after seeing owner pics and closeups.
Before, though? Just lay low and hope that nobody buys it/snipes your SS for it before you can make a move.
>>8816771 I actually feel that some lolita brands were heavily inspired by prior ETC releases. There was an ETC dress that looked pretty similar to Little Bear's Café, one that had pancakes and bear-shaped honey before Honey Cake and I feel like otome brands started cutlery prints.
But I agree, for a few years now AP seems to be the trendsetting brand.
>>8817299 Low heels, or shoes that look high but with the platform actually only have a low heel, or no heel. Boots that have only a tiny heel. The only truly flat shoe I wear are RHS, nothing I own is sweet enough for tea parties.
What's the cheapest source of pic related in the US? I was shocked to see them for over 10$ on amazon, eBay, and etsy. Does anyone have some left over from a bulk order? Would it look alright with an Alice coord or does someone have a better idea and source for a necklace
>>8816951 I would actually recommend you steer clear of AB for a while. As much as it saddens me to say it.
Their quality has been really hit or miss the last six months or so. I know several different people who have all gotten pretty shoddy pieces in that time frame. Lots of crooked stitching, and a marked decrease in fabric quality on simple accessories especially.
>>8817545 I sent my request and did everything they asked and no invite yet after one week. I asked them what happens to our information once they accept or reject a person but no answer even after they have seen the message. Makes me worry since the information of our social media accounts and legal names attached can be used to put someone if someone inside gets to see that information.
Okay gulls I have a dilemma I have money that I want to spend. My dream dress just came up at a decent but expensive price, and it's not too common, though it is a fairly new release. However it's my least favourite colourway, it's pink and I desperately want the navy version, but I could see if anyone wants to trade, I guess, though I know that's a long process which might not result in me getting my preferred colour anyway.
OR I could use the money for what I was going to do anyway, buy a couple of cheaper dresses that I like, but aren't dream dress tier because I desperately need to fill my wardrobe out & have daily pieces. I can only do one of these things and I honestly can't decide.
>>8818433 Don't buy it in your least favourite colourway, spend it on fleshing out your wardrobe or save it til something better comes up. If this is the pink special set I was thinking of, it's pretty hideous anyway (although not as hideous as the yellow).
You know what's weird? In the heyday of OTT sweet, I liked stuff that was sweet/classic, kind of like the less ott sweet/classic chiffon stuff we have today, but now that's all popular, and AP are making dresses in cuts I love (think the long sleeved OPs they've been putting out recently), I really want them to go back to OTT 2012 sweet. I don't know why! I don't think it's me being a hipster and saying 'I liked it first' because I'm not that sort of person, but I've stopped liking the stuff I used to like in favour of stuff I used to hate. I also used to think old school was frumpy and ugly, now I love that too! I don't understand...
>>8818463 IDK, man. Tastes change. I think when something's no longer on-trend, you only remember the good coords - I miss stellar OTT sweet and stellar oldschool, but forget about all the mediocre and ita shit that was around at the same time. When you get oversaturated with something you get bored of it.
When I started out I only liked gothic and blackxwhite gothic oldschool, thought other oldschool was ugly and frumpy, thought classic that wasn't in jewel tones was boring, and hated all sweet. Then I started treating toned-down classic and OTT sweet as "It's cute, but not on me" material, and now I want to have tried every style at least once. I'm even starting to like ugly-ass oldschool gobelin prints. What I wear hasn't changed that much (I wear sweet-classic now, but still mostly stick to gothic and oldschool) but what I enjoy has changed a lot in five years.
How many elements do you usually use in your coords? I was counting some from a coord I'm planning and I realize I only had ten elements, counting dress, blouse, shoes, socks, headwear, bag and accesories(but no petti nor bloomers). I guess my coords are pretty simple.
>>8818970 It depends how you count it. Are accessories counted one by one or does 'accessories' cover the twenty odd bits and bobs you've got hanging off your coord? The trend for Ott has led many lolitas to feel their coords always have to be bursting with elements to be good but this simply isn't true, there's nothing wrong with simple coords
>>8818970 I normally have main piece, blouse/bolero, socks, shoes, headwear (which may consist of up to three pieces), bag and maybe outerwear and jewellery. So if you're simple, I'm like a peasant. Though I already knew hat.
>>8818970 Honestly, it's nothing to do with the amount of "elements"/different things you wear; it's about the individual elements themselves. Say you wore Fleur Antoinette, a bonnet with roses all over it, an ornate and intricate rose choker with matching bracelet and ring, lace tights and OTT frilly shoes from irregular choice, that's seven elements but not exactly a simple outfit. If it's a plain skirt, blouse, cardigan, understated pendant necklace, bracelet, 2 small hair bow clips, solid colour knee socks, solid colour Mary Jane shoes, plain bag, that's ten elements but clearly a more simple outfit.
>>8818433 You know the answer.never settle for the wrong colour of your dream dress
Thanks guys, I'll be padding out my wardrobe, it's just I've never obtained one of my dream dresses before so that's why I had to ask. Also it's the elizabeth unicorn OP that I'm searching for, not british bear like I think you're referring to >>8818437 Thanks!
does anyone find that AP seem to stick to one design for a long time when they release stuff? I noticed that they used to put out normal waist jsks and mid-sleeve length OPs for a while (think dramatic rose with the plain chiffon bits) then they went through a princess sleeve phase and now they're doing long sleeved OPs and high waist jsks a lot. I'm not saying that everything they release during those times has those cuts, but a lot of it does. Kind of like picasso and his periods.
If you sit in on some AP releases, usually if there is a long-sleeved, high-waisted OP, those will be the ones that are the first to sell out. JSKs are more mixed whether they sell out, high waist or not.
You can see it even now, their webshop has a University OP with long sleeves and high waist that's sold out, and a University jsk with normal waist that is not. It carries over to the secondhand market, too, on Japanese auction sites the Misty Sky OPs tend to go for more than the jsks, iirc British Bear and Elisabeth had the same pattern.
>>8819502 That's probably to keep it simpler for production. As it is they're producing a really (skilled) labor intensive product, by reusing cuts/using similar ones they don't have to constantly be drafting new patterns/making new markers.
Yes, the cut sells out all the time. That's exactly why they keep making it.
AP isn't Picasso. They want money and girls want high-waisted long-sleeved OPs. Why on earth would they stop making high-waisted long-sleeved OPs when the high-waisted long-sleeved OPs keeps bringing in the money. Do you think AP runs on a mountain of cut ears or something.
Are there any Bodyline blouses that are decent quality? I look at them all the time for a cheaper option, but they just look like they are made out of bad material. Like a stiff, cheap cotton. Is it worth it to get a Bodyline blouse to save a couple bucks, or should I stick with the indie/Taobao ones I've been buying?
>>8819553 What kind of blouses are you looking for? Chiffon ones I think just go to Taobao. I only have a BL cotton one which is good for old school. But then I was lucky and got a brand one for cheap, but the quality is still vastly better. Are you not looking to buy second hand?
>>8819565 I was looking at this one. >http://bodyline.jp/en/l382.html I specifically was looking for one with this kind of collar. The other one I was considering is this one by Infanta. >http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/infanta-swan-lake-puffy-long-sleeves-lolita-blouse-inf-270
I looked on LM for some second-hand but when I looked I didn't see any similar to this cut.
I just got a lacebook invite from a friend, but I was wondering: When you sign up, is the "name" bit going to be your displayed name on LB? Will it be editable? Do I need to use my actual name? Basically any help from someone who has already signed up would be a big help.
>>8819633 I really fucking hate that style of corset dress that they do. I think it's absolutely hideous and it looks weirdly huge on everyone. The dress next to it is also fucking disgusting and looks like ageplay sissy fetish shit which I don't understand at all. The first two dress look alright though I prefer the first one. Too bad their shit is terribly overpriced. Seems like their bonnets are the only things that are worth the money but I've never had one, just seen pictures/seen them on other people.
>>8819749 rainedragon made a review on EGL of a skirt she bought from them and the inside construction was just a trainwreck, I went and dug up the link http://egl.livejournal.com/19717247.html
anyways I don't really understand why people like 3F struff beyond their bonnets...to me most of their stuff just looks so hideous and busy and poorly designed so I find it hard to imagine people genuinely like some of the things they put out (like the corset/skirt things)
Once again, I have asked Lace Book mods to give me an answer on what happens to the information given to them and what do they do with it once they reject or accept a person and no answer. Now I want to call them out since they have seen my message twice and are ignoring something that is very concerning.
>>8820453 I want to give them until tomorrow and see if they answer my question since I already gave them my application to join but no answer as of now. They should write back to a person and tell them if they are able to join or rejected. It would help out a lot for people who never hears back and waiting for a responds.
>>8820483 I thought invites were limited to an certain amount per person. Can anyone in LB confirm this?
>>8820522 Anon, they just got back to me today after about a week or slightly more, apologizing for the delay and letting me know I'd been accepted. I'm pretty sure they're probably just overwhelmed by the amount of emails they've received. It looks like in order to invite people you need to connect your account to FB or twitter, though, which bothers me. One of the reasons I was excited for LB was that I'd finally have a place for lolita away from other social media.
Does anyone know around how long I'm expected to wait for a petti from Bunny House? I paid my invoice on January 3rd so it's been just over 2 weeks. She hasn't given me a tracking number or anything, so I don't even know if it's shipped
>>8820611 Everything from Bunny House is made to order and since during the holidays they got swamped with orders, they closed orders to catch up with them. You just need to wait a little bit longer and then you will get your petticoat!
>>8820639 As someone who makes stuff like this you can't just fucking glue them together. You have to sew them to a base which is what I'm sure anon was asking. Holy shit you sure are a cunt for something you so obviously know nothing about.
>>8820611 everything is made to order and it definitely takes about 3 weeks for them to make your order. I ordered a blouse from them on dec 27th and I just got a shipping notification this morning (jan 18). I ordered from them once before and it was also about 2.5-3 weeks. that's just the make time - I think the shipping time may have been an additional 2 weeks as well.
she will definitely email you once your order has shipped, but if you are concerned or want to know an update on your order definitely shoot them an email as they are responsive - for this current order that shipped they emailed me for some additional measurements I missed. but yeah IDK why they don't at least send a confirmation or something because these 2 times i've ordered I never got anything until they sent me the tracking number or when they asked for additional measurements.
>>8817069 I wouldn't wear them as a regular piece of your coord - only as backup shoes in case your feet are sore or you're doing a lot of walking and need more comfortable shoes.
alternatively if everyone in your comm wears them and you really want to that badly then hey go for it but be weary of posting pics online since if cgl sees them they'll definitely rip them right off your feet.
if you just want a flat shoe there's plenty of flat or wide, low-heeled shoes that have that elegant/cute look to them that are far more suited to lolita if you take a look around
>>8820631 I make my floral headresses with florists wire. If I want something big and showy like in the pitcture I tend to start from scratch and make a full wire base but for simpler headdresses I tend to just buy cheap ass headhands and wire flowers around them. If you feel uncomfortable figuring things out on your own there are plenty of tutorials floating around the internet.
Just bought pictured for my last $60 on sale in Shinjuku's shop. I needed a new bag badly, and would have preferred the playing cards one but it was only in brown and wouldn't match much in my wardrobe.
Its much bigger and sturdier than I expected and I really like it. The lighting in the pic is bad but its very cute and something I can carry around in normie mode.
Hory shitto that winter sale is the best I have seen in a long while from IW. If I had the money I would have bought another full coord. Even the cramped shop was packed full of most things being offered online at 50% off.
>>8820982 they are way too plain, it's like wearing a tiny bow on your head or a polo-shirt under a JSK or nude tights. It would look stupid with a lolita dress, because even casual JSKs are pretty dressy.
>>8820994 My ex-friend used to dress to 9 in brand but would always wear fucking flats. ALWAYS. It pissed me off so much because she was already short and her gate was not flattering without heels or pumps.
I must have told her a million times how much better real shoes would look, but without fail she always went for flats for comfort reasons.
Is there an easy way to identify replicas? I'm considering buying a Misty Sky JSK but I want to make sure it's not a replica. The print looks crisp, and I asked for pictures of the logo and care label and they look legit and not hastily sewed on. I think it's real based on that but is there still a chance it's a really well made fake?
I've never bought a dress that had a replica before so I'm pretty clueless about sniffing them out.
Has anyone gotten a invoice for the IW flash sale that was on the 9.1? I ordered the bag in the picture plus a headbow that wasn't on sale and no word yet (nothing in the scam folder either.) >Stayed up for the last sale as well >Still showed as being in stock >Still have hope.
>>8820081 Sometimes they have prints I really like but the dress cuts always look bad, so when I see a print I really like (and one that goes with my wardrobe.) I buy the printed tights. They're hard to find second hand sometimes but it's possible (Even had one pop up on CC.)
>>8821029 IW is notoriously lax when it comes to dealing with heavy order traffic during sales. And for a Japanese company they are surprisingly unapologetic. All they told me was that there was a holiday and they only had a few staff.
I ordered hundreds of dollars worth a few years ago during another big sale and it literally took over a MONTH for them to ship. I got my invoice on the 19th and even though I was keeping in email contact with them it didn't ship out till the 21st of the next month.
I have ordered before without a sale and it processed fairly quickly for a few items, but yeah you could be looking at days to get your invoice and weeks to get a shipping confirmation.
>>8821039 I meant 9.1 as in the sale the went up on the 9th of January. The way IW work with their orders is: >Send in a form >get Email that form was received and that they'll check their stock and invoice you once it's confirmed (got that part.) >get invoice and actually pay for the order (Didn't get this yet.)
The sale is up permanently now and it still seems to be in stock so I guess they're just slow as usual. http://innocent-w.jp/onlineshop/en/sale.html
>>8820982 They make your feet look flat and wide, are unflattering on your legs, create an unbalance with the rest of your outfit and 99% of the time look flimsy and cheap. Flats in general are fine but only if they have some structure to them and don't look like a scrap of fabric glued onto a cardboard sole.
>>8821015 If it has care and logo tags, you're fine. For future reference, the newer, closer replicas have little things that give them away. Misty Sky, for example, used dot lace along the bottom that seems thinner than the original (maybe hard to tell in photos) and the two bows at the straps are pretty sad looking on the replica. Another one, Cream Cookie Collection, seems to cut the bottom line of ribbon from the print off on the JSK, whereas authentic ones all have it. It all comes down to spotting those sorts of differences. Replica makers generally don't put in care tags or the AP tag, though, so I really wouldn't worry about it.
>>8821013 >>8821002 >tfw i totally do lazy flats and a small bow during my non-meet/event days forgive me father for i have sinned...
but honestly, my 20min walk to work is crazy windy sometimes- i always opt for a barette or nothing these days. how do you gulls even deal with severe wind/rain? i change into cute shoes at work, but i'm sure the judgement happens.
>>8821219 Ballet flats aren't even that comfortable and are horrible for your feet, though. On my casual days, I go for oxfords with a slight heel (or even just a good sole) or boots, for my more otome days. I really see no good reason or excuse for flats, though, in lolita or out.
Also, if you're toned down/not wearing a huge petti and a bunch of accessories, a simple bow is fine. I usually wear clips or a low headband/bow on days like that.
hey guys... sorry if this is a dumb question but i was not too sure where else to ask i am very new to lolita and still very bad at coordinating outfits. is it in poor tastes to copy someone elses coords? i don't plan on sharing pictures of it anywhere, just for myself because i like the way the person styled their coord, but would that be considered wrong? sorry for my english!
>>8821392 Well they aren't cheap running at over a hundred for good brands but pointe shoes are also uncomfortable as fuck to wear after a few hours, even when broken in so I don't know why you would do that.
>>8821401 It's fine, especially if you're not posting about it, because no one will ever know. I would say that you should try incorporating new elements/trying out other things, though, in order to get better at coordinating yourself. For example, try swapping out the blouse or accessorizing it a different way.
Has anyone had any issues with Boz lately? My SS reserved an item for me just before xmas which was due in mid-Jan. Said item's now arrived at the Nagoya store, but not at their head office shop ro Osaka shop, and the reservation listing's vanished from the webshop. The heck?
>>8821222 That is what inserts are for. I have a pair that I use for pretty much every shoe ever. I usually wear my flats to commute in and change into my nicer lolita shoes when I get there. If its a meet with a lot of walking I change out of my heels because I'm a klutz and I would inevitably scuff them.
>>8821447 Why not just buy regular shoes with support built in? I'm saying that the argument that a lot of shitty itas use "flats are the only comfortable thing I can wear!!! I have feet problems!!" is bs, because flats are right up there with flip flops and poorly constructed heels when it comes to being bad for your feet.
>>8821464 There are other types of nice footwear without heels other than ballet flats. Wearing actual ballet shoes, especially pointes, just looks dumb, and they will just be shredded worn outdoors. Pointes are also potentially risky to wear unless trained.
>>8821222 I said slight heel, e.g. heel like pic related. If you can't wear this kind of shit, maybe you shouldn't be walking. As someone who dealt with pretty severe leg, knee, and foot injuries due to playing sports year round in high school, I understand having injuries and issues. However, no doctor is going to tell you to wear flats, which offer absolutely no support, and even with inserts offer less support than most other styles of footwear.
>>8821464 Man, are flats comfortable?? I have 1 pair of flats and always want to throw them away at the end of the day. I've got a pair of loafers with a half inch heel which are incredibly comfortable and they make my legs look far better.
>>8821529 >>8821532 This is an orthopaedic shoe. See how it's taller in the back? That's a heel. Most shoes with any amount of support will have a heel. Absolutely flat shoes aren't appropriate for most people. If you need them, that's fine. Doesn't make them less ugly. A flat maryjane or nice boots would probably look better.
>>8821502 I have flat feet and bad knees, so flats are a huge no-no for me. They offer no support, which results in feet cramps at the end of the day. Not comfortable at all. Shoes with structure in which I can insert my orthopaedic soles are the best.
>>8821608 >>8821608 Wooden block? ? ? ? Hahahahahaha. You are so full of shit. It's layered canvas. Their feet get fucked up because humans are not meant to bear the weight of their entire body on the tips of their toes.
Did anyone make any purchases on IW's flash sale yesterday, or have purchased from flash sales before? Just curious how long it will take to get an invoice. I really want to know if I actually got in on time to get Clock Rabbit so I can purchase accessories!
>>8821392 if you're talking about the soft leather flats than no??? those will look even worse than flats the casual shoe because they're almost like leather socks wrapped around your feet. it'll look really fucking dumb and they aren't meant to be worn as regular shoes and they won't look cute or elegant enough to be lolita footwear.
if you're talking about pointe shoes that's an even worse idea and as a dancer I fucking hate people who aren't trained dancers wearing them desu. and if you are a dancer you should know better. pointe shoes are expensive because they were made to do freaky French toe dancing in, not because they're high quality shoes to walk around in. also especially for someone who is untrained they are just going to be flat out uncomfortable and painful to walk around in until they are broken in which you aren't going to do just by walking around. the shoes are made of fabric and you're gonna tear them up when you walk around outside. granted, I only did pointe for about 6 years and I was only average at it, but walking around normally in them kinda hurt and was awkward (there's kind of a gait you have when walking around with them) and they really were made to be danced in with your foot constantly moving in and out of different positions. Maybe if you're a pro ballerina with lots of calluses and really broken in shoes they're less awkward feeling to walk in but pointe shoes are NOT made for casual wear in any shape or form.
there are brands that have made shoes that look like pointe shoes so if you want that look then buy those but for the love of God if you don't wanna look like a goddamn idiot don't wear any sort of ballet shoes with your coords. former and current dancers alike are gonna judge the fuck out of you.
sorry but I'm so protective over pointe shoes and this is also the most retarded thing I've heard all day because I'm not sure why you thought real ballet shoes would actually look good.
>>8821608 I'm >>8821635, it's a really common myth that they're made from wood but it's just layers and layers of fabric and glue - this is so that as you dance the shoe forms to the shape of your feet. the layers are quite hard and stiff though - I suppose the wood theory comes from how noisy they are when you prance around on stage.
but yeah the layers are super hard and yes dancers feet get fucked up but also because it's like that other anon said, humans aren't really meant to be doing this. for the time I did pointe a lot of us wore padding for our toes but more serious or professional ballerinas will wear nothing at all. building up calluses on the feet helps but a lot of the pros will have super gross bruised, etc feet because of the shoes
sage because OT and idk if anyone really cares lol
I did ballet until I was 17 and always thought it was a wooden toebox too. I even thought the sole of the shoes were wood, didn't try very hard to break it in in case it broke and splintered. Things I learn.
Thanks for the info. I'd always been told the blocks were wood, but I never really got into ballet. My sister used to be a figure skater, and had to do some ballet to aid in suppleness, which I went to watch occassionally. Skating boots are like pointe shoes, they wreck your feet because they have to be really tight-fitting and rock hard in order to give your feet the support for doing the big jumps.
>>8821659 yeah the soles are actually super hard leather
I'm not sure why this is such a prevalent myth and in my short 6 years of pointe I often tried to figure out why. I think maybe it's because the shoes are so loud like I mentioned already, but I now I wonder if perhaps they used to be made out of wood back when it started??
>>8821604 you can buy a regular pass and a tea ticket and then it's only like 130. the main stuff you get with vip with the new method is early access to marketplace, early seating for the fashion show and the tea if you have a ticket, and vip events. the vip events last year was stuff like kabedon photoshoot where everyone got a photo with triple fortune. if you really want early access to the marketplace to try and get a bonnet or anything else, like voodooodolly had a handful of really nice hats that sold out instantly, it's up to you if the extra money for vip is worth it. i don't know what was in the vip bags except i remember someone getting haenuli tights.
I have to be honest, I think I looked up the history at some point, and I know they were made of actual metal some long, long time ago. Probably missed the part where they crossed from wood to canvas somehow.
But honestly, how the shoes were made just doesn't matter as much as how to stay on them, how much they hurt, how to actually piroutte on them, how to walk en pointe from one side of the studio to the other, how you should never take them off unless you're a masochist and want to double your pain, how to plaster a fake smile on your face while dancing through the pain, that sort of thing. What the shoes were made of didn't seem all that important to how to dance well in them.
>>8821666 >i don't know what was in the vip bags except i remember someone getting haenuli tights. VanillaBear on YouTube had a good haul video that included everything in her VIP bag.
Other goodies that tempt me:
>Goodies from special guests, sponsors, and vendors If this year is bigger than last year, it should be better than the 2015 bag.
>Exclusive main events, panels, and workshops for Deluxe members only This depends on what those events are, if materials are included for the workshops, etc.
>Complimentary breakfast at the hotel’s restaurant for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday I think this is $10/day otherwise. It was an all you can eat buffet and no one stopped you from walking out with fruit.
>10% off Consignment Room total purchase (only to be used once) So, early access to Consignment, plus 10% off. This is the biggest tempter for me, but it's a gamble because who knows what will be there?
>Thursday night ice cream social prior to the celebrate the start of the annual membership conference An extra, hopefully catered, event in addition to the tea party.
I'm waffling because these could potentially make up the difference in cost between the weekend and the new VIP pass, but only if the items and workshops are things I would like. Without any vendor, guest, or panelist info it's hard to decide.
>>8821691 last year they didn't have much announced before tickets went on sale, and vip sold out really fast. it's possible that with the price hike they might not sell out so fast, but with any luck they might announce more guests ahead of ticket sales this year, rather than later
i know i heard someone saying they are revamping the consignment process so hopefully it won't be as disorganized as last year too, meaning your odds of getting something really good early on to use your 10% off may be better
Not sure where else to ask this, but does anyone know where I can find the English translation of Novala Takemoto's book "Emily"? I would buy it, but it was only released as an e-book, and has been unavailable for a while now. I believe the site that used to have it shut down. I've searched all over to see if anyone uploaded it somewhere, but no luck. I know this is a long shot, but would any seagull happen to have it?
sorry if this is too OT.. but sometimes in sales posts / wardrobe posts i see people using character hangers (from an anime or game), where do people get these and how much should i expect to pay for one?
it's kinda cute seeing clothes paired this way, or maybe my weeb power level is showing.
>>8821913 Do you mean for coping around normies? In which case we need to know what sort of place you're going to in what style of coord Or do you mean like practical things, in which case we need to know whether you live somewhere hot or cold, and if you're taking public transport etc We got your back homes, just give us some more info so we can help and never use emotes here again
>>8821913 >:/ First, don't use emoticons on 4chan. Second, start with a dress/coord that you really like, and see if you can tone it down a bit. When you're actually out, listening to music can help keep you from getting anxious on the metro and stuff. I generally listen to things that are either very cute/peppy or 80s music, like Morrissey/The Smiths and The Cure- it helps me for some reason. Prepare some basic answers for questions you get like "Why are you dressed up like that?" "Did you make that?" etc. I generally avoid mentioning lolita or even the fact that it's a Japanese fashion. Short, simple answers are generally the best, and if people get shitty, don't be afraid to get curt. Ignore anyone who heckles you or is a weirdo.
I felt nervous the first couple of times I was out because my community is somewhat poor and very casual/weird about clothing. I get asked why I'm wearing nice normalfag clothing all the time, so I knew lolita would elicit a reaction. However, after realizing I look cute af and wearing it out a couple of times, I basically got over any anxiety I had.
How did Mila get her hair to stay up so well/high here?
>>8821913 I only started wearing lolita last year and I'm still not confident enough to wear it alone. Here are some things I've done to kind of get used to it.
If you are travelling via public transport, try get another person to go with you. In the best case it could be another friend going to the event, or just ask your partner,or a good friend to drop you off.
If I am travelling by myself, I try to tone down my coord as much as I can to detract attention from myself. (ie. wearing less elaborate headbands / or putting them on close to the event)
Most reactions I've got from the public is pretty positive, but just try to ignore if anyone says anything rude. I try to ignore all looks from strangers by either chatting to friends, or if I am by myself just looking as far as I can forward. Pretent to walk like you have to be somewhere important, people will feel less likely to stop you.
If you are a person who is shy and just enjoys wearing pretty clothes it is really nerve wracking to be suddenly at the attention of strangers. Until you get used to it it really helps to stick with friends (in or out of lolita) as much as you can.
>>8821951 I think you need to lurk more before you post on 4chan again. You don't seem to understand social etiquette around here. If you know your friends aren't comfortable with you wearing lolita, then you probably shouldn't wear it; it's rude, imo. Have you talked to them about it? Maybe try doing that first. Beyond that, if you don't have any sort of confidence and are worried that you'll be seen "as a loser" then you should probably try to work on building some confidence.
>>8821951 What are you planning to wear besides the coat? Specifically, what substyle? Gothic and classic can be easily toned down but sweet is more of a challenge unless there's no print and it's in darker colors like black or navy. Other than that, I suggest working on your attitude; if you step outside thinking you look like a loser/weirdo/clown it'll be obvious, it won't look good and it certainly won't make you feel good either. How's the coord you have planned? Do the pieces look good with one another? How does it look on you when you wear it? Is it flattering? Disregard other people's opinions for a moment: When you're done getting dressed and look in the mirror, do you like what you see? Do you think you look cute? If it's a yes, then keep that in mind when you go outside in lolita. It might be easier said than done, especially if you're shy or suffer from anxiety, but "fake it till you make it" is a real thing that works and I suggest you try it.
>>8821958 >>8821973 thank you, i just got carried away with my rant ha. ill take all this into consideration. my friends wouldnt mind i dont think, i was just worrying more than anything. im working on my confidence slowly! i was hoping lolita would help me with it, but obviously i need to get used to going out in it before that happens. thanks again!
>>8821711 I contacted the publishing/translation company over a year ago (maybe even two years ago) and they said they were working on it... If you want to bug them it's Shueisha English Addition. Why the f they don't put their catalog on Amazon or iTunes if they're looking for a new distributor is beyond me
>>8822128 It's a part of 4chan culture that a lot of newbies don't know about, so I am fine with people pointing it out as part of a mostly constructive post. Obnoxious use of emotes can derail threads and really piss people off (understandably, imo), so it's better to let them know, at least.
>>8821996 I decided to shoot them a message. They haven't updated their page since last March, so I'm not too hopeful. But I'll post if I get a response.
>>8822153 It's supposedly a story about the relationship between a lolita and "another lonely soul, clad in another designer's brand". It also includes a few shorts. It's by the same guy that wrote Kamikaze Girls.
>>8822176 Not that anon, but stop being such a cunt. Expecting others to understand your hobby in-depth is just as autistic as lolitas flying off the handle at normies for not knowing it's a alternative street fashion from Japan. And I'm saying that as a lolita. You could have just clarified it in normal way. People in life will be far more receptive to you and what you're saying if you cut the negativity.
>>8822279 Normally I'd agree but the fact that real ballet shoes are extremely uncomfortable for walking in is one of those things pretty much everyone knows. I've never watched/read anything even vaguely ballet related and even I know that.
>>8822622 this is a good question! unfortunately, weight is not stock information brand sites list usually, so you'd have to crowd source the info and even then it could be grossly wrong since no one can really verify it unless they own the dress.
also shipping calculation usually involves weighing your packing materials too, so it doesn't help much if you don't have a scale either way.
i usually estimate rates with an average weight of the item (obviously things made of chiffon or velvet I will adjust accordingly), this usually ballparks the shipping close enough for the potential buyer (i'll recalculate properly if they commit). alternatively, you could just include shipping in your price so you can avoid quoting a bunch of shipping prices.
I've been out of lolita for about three years, but I just impulse bought Twinkle Sky skirt in black, because my thirst for star prints and gold-on-black is insatiable. Any suggestions for simpler coords with it to ease back into lolita? I still have most of my things, but I've lost weight since I stopped wearing the fashion. I have some gold shoes, but I'm not sure the golds will match.
Do you guys like any of these dresses? My normie friends from high school follow me on tumblr and now they're reblogging lolita stuff but god is this shit tacky looking. Also I'm not plus size but my friends definitely are. Why do all plus size clothes look tacky and never like non plus size stuff? I rarely ever found the exact same top in a plus size section that I did in the rest of a store when I was fat. Does anyone else think these dresses look awful and mostly because they have to be so large and handmade? Not that the sewing itself is bad but.. I don't know. There's something really off putting about them.
Pic related obviously but there's also the link so you can see all of them and her other stuff.
>>8822697 Shades of gold not matching actually is a pet peeve of mine and I'm pretty sure a lot of people are the same. These ugly, shiny, warm gold bodyline shoes paired with these cold toned heart/star bags is a prime example.
>>8822659 I don't think the gold in the print is prominent enough to clash with whatever shoes you have, just pick out other gold accessories wisely and you should be fine!
>>8822764 I honestly expect much worse from handmade lolita, especially plus size. The first two are the best, except the boobloaf. The rest there are more questionable, but it's not the completely garish or fugly granny couch tier I feel like I often see.
>>8822764 I think I know who this is and I might have seen her in person since her body and dresses look similar to someone I seen around during big meets. And if this is the person I believe it is, the dresses honestly look better in person than in the pictures. Also the construction is pretty solid as well.
>>8822315 >anon >>8822128 says only autists care >actually derails about emotes >what >>8822165 said is happening >using the term headcanon >brings Reddit up for no reason >actually uses an emote >:^) Yes. You are the autist.
So a release from Baby that I'm interested in sold out while my damned tabs were loading.
The page had something about: "Due to this serie’s popularity, restock of the following items has been decided. Arrival is scheduled for the end of May~beginning of June ... Please take into consideration that as soon as the first cycle of production sells out, all following orders will be automatically relayed to the second round, and thus, they will arrive on a later basis.
For our online store users, all the above mentioned items’ orders will belong to the second round of production, so items will be delivered around May~June, depending on the items ordered." Added before going up for sale today, but the colour I wanted was still out of stock before I could add it to my cart, should I email them about wanting in on the second run, hope they do another round on the site, or just sob over my missed chance and shit internet?
Sorry for the melodrama, this is the first print I've wanted in a while and I stayed up until 3:00AM while sick as a dog only to be met with failure.
There's actually a few dumbfounded "why would anyone do this?" comments above her essay of a response, imo that essay of a response is a kindness, it really explains all the different shoes and why it was a dumb idea.
I'd have been more sympathetic if anon said "Okay, I didn't know that." instead of "I was just asking". Sure, she was merely ignorant, but she's not very polite herself. So I don't care if anons aren't polite back to her either.
>>8822800 So glad my SS already reserved it for me two weeks ago. Last time I tried for an AatP release ended in me failing and buying 4 other dresses to replace the hole it left in my heart, so I wasn't risking that again
I wonder when they'll restock the items on the online shop, I kind of want this in both JSK cuts
>>8817362 SAME! I love their older floral dresses (2010-2013), and have been buying them up. Especially in long lengths. Where are the florals, Fujiwara-san? >>8819575 I used to own L382 and it's pretty good quality. Would recommend. >>8819749 I saw a bunch of 3F stuff at Kera Shop and it's all poorly constructed shit. Even bodyline's better. >>8820899 Nice choice! I was eyeing that one, at the Shinjuku shop too.
>>8823270 read some of the cc guides on egl, the images are little outdated but the information is still mostly relevant. if you choose not to click that orange graphic paypal after payment, they will send you an invoice asap, usually 2-3 days in my experience. if it's been like 4 days since they sent you an email about receiving an invoice then maybe you might want to email them with your information but yeah they should send you one in roughly 3 days time.
>>8822816 >it really explains all the different shoes and why it was a dumb idea
See, this is why I don't understand all the comments bitching. They didn't just go "WOW, WHAT A DUMB QUESTION", they may have been a bit ranty/testy but they took time to explain why that was a dumb question to them and even provided other options (seeking out shoes that are stylized to look like ballet shoes).
But, this is also cgl, why are we still concerned with people not answering questions politely? I know we aren't a monolith or whatever but cgl sasses people with painful noob questions all the time. That was kind of like a painful noob question for ballet.
I almost got my hands on muh dream dress delivered from Japan today, but I have to pay fee of $33 before I get it. Since I don't use cash anymore, I have go pick it up at the post office tomorrow morning.
Even worse, I'm a Burgerlander. This is the first time I got hit with a fee ever.
I really want that Twinkle Sky headbow, but I figured I'll just order it from AP USA when it comes out since I need to order something else from there as well. How long after the release are we allowed to purchase just the accessories from AP USA?
>>8823868 I'm going down to the post office tomorrow to understand why and get the parcel. Including shipping, it cost 33,000円 which comes close to $300. It may have been incorrectly marked as $33,000 since the yen is a zero-decimal currency. Hence why I am being assessed a $33 fee. It's that or MM is considered a small business compared to AP or Baby.
It's always important to read the bill before you pay something. This is why I'm waiting till tomorrow to pick it up. Hotels are the worst offenders for charging more for a bill.
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