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Can we get some inspiration for super casual lolita coords - ones that would make normies think you're simply dressed kind of quirky, but not quirky enough that they would feel the need to ask you if you were wearing a costume? Some that normies might even - dare I say - like? Outfits that aren't actually lolita but use lolita main pieces are okay too, anything so long as it's a way to wear your lolita without standing out a whole lot!
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I believe what you are looking for is otome.

Also I hope sweet cream house never has to suffer that bad of a coord irl.
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Don't live in fear anon, just come out of the lolita closet.
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>>8811857
Don't pin this on otome. For one thing, the print is way off.
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>>8811874
But a lot of it is tacky and not everyone wants that, it's nice to wear something a little off the cuff to work without being a blinding beacon of attention.

I'm scaling back a lot, things never fit me properly cause I'm not short and asian. I'm tailoring my baby doll jsks into skirts to get more wear out of them. When I took it in the lady said, "this looks like something a baby would wear." Yep.
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>>8811908
>giving a shit
Try one of those online shops that sells pinup dresses for normies who want to be special but not too special.
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>>8811908
In my head I'd be all "I'm not paying you for your opinion. Get my shit tailored or I'm going somewhere else."
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>>8811914
I generally go for the original vintage pieces and pretty much buy everything second hand locally or on etsy. Stuff that doesn't fit just right I get tailored, it makes such a big difference. I don't have many lolita pieces to begin with, maybe 15, but I don't see myself going much further because nothing ever fits properly, the bodices are always too small, or its so fancy that it just sits in the closet taking up space, nice to look at but kind of a waste?
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>>8811931
That's actually a good point.
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OP here - the reason I made this thread is because I love lolita fashion, but I'm moving to a new place soon and I don't want to wear something that could make me feel like even more of an outsider, or make it any harder to meet people. I still want to wear all my cute lolita clothes, I just want to seem more approachable and "normal" so that I can make friends more easily than if I wore real lolita.
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>>8811937
Would a vest by Excentrique qualify or is the corseting on the back a bit out there?
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>>8811944
Also I think incorporating fitted vests into your wardrobe with skirts can give you a nice mature look.
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>>8811944
I think that sounds lovely!
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>>8811914
Apathy isn't the answer to everything for this problem.
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>>8811884
How is the print off for otome? ETC always makes sweets and biscuit dresses. If you took the petti off the dress it has the same silhouette as ETC dresses.
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>>8811812
Angii chan's toned down coords are my fav
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>>8812017
You don't think it looks overly ornate for an ETC biscuit print?

Also, even without a petti, the skirt would be too full.
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>>8811934
Right? Like, shut the hell up and do your damn job, lady.
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>>8812047
Green cardigan with honeycake lives on
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So otome thread?
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I'd take a look at fannie rosies blog for some inspo to make lolita work in a more mature way. Even though she uses a lot of lolita pieces in her coords, her style is very polished and I'm sure even normies would appreciate it.
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>>8812137
No
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>>8812137

>implying my chocolate bunny jsk is totes a 'slightly quirky' outfit for work
>implying otome is just casual work-able lolita

Please stop.
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OK, casual lolita with the maximum possibility of getting "normie approved".

Many lolita prints will look tacky and overdone to the regular person who's used to seeing minimalism within individual pieces of clothing (yet also maximalism in accessories and embellishments). So:

Stick to solids, or generic patterns (stripes, polka dots, some florals).

Avoid JSKs and OPs, and instead pair skirts with a nice long-sleeve shirt, t-shirt, or cutsew. (Remember when we used to make cutsews from t-shirts?)

Add boleros, cardigans, shawls, scarves, blazers, and other pieces of "normal" clothing for layers.

You probably won't need jewelry. If you must, try to wear just one piece. Some pieces of Givenchy costume jewelry have simple, timeless designs and can be purchased cheaply on ebay.

For legwear, solid opaque tights are safest. Lolita brand OTK socks will look odd to Westerners in both length and design (especially lace-up patterns, which will remind some of BDSM). If opaque is boring, select textures like crochet knits, or subtle patterns that are trendy (dip-dyed ombre clothing, including tights, were a fad some years ago).

Shoes: You want everyday designs that fit the aesthetic. No teaparties. Mary Janes, low heels, and flats from brands like Clarks and Hush Puppies will have both comfort and quality. If you want go up to a medium-to-high heel, try to keep the toe box round. Brands like Fluevog and Westwood occasionally produce cute, round-toe heels that at first glance look generic enough for a lawyer's office, but some tiny detail in their design makes them intriguing.

Finally: don't skip the petticoat, makeup, or hair. Just because it's called casual lolita doesn't mean it's lazy. If you own only one petticoat and it's a giant cupcake that cannot be tamed, get a thinner one (you can get the $20 Leg Avenue tulle one and pin the outer layer as needed). Wear a headband, or a single tiny bow in your hair. Do natural-looking makeup so that your skin looks healthy.
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>>8812205
here here!
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In my experience prints and accessories are what separates 'lolita' from 'nice clothes' in the eyes of normies. Also remember for a more casual coord just add cardigans.
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>>8811857
No. Otome is its own fashion, and while it doesn't necessarily have the costume-y feel that some OTT lolita looks do, it still looks extremely quirky to the normie western eye. Don't confuse things. OP is asking for toned down casual lolita, which is nothing at all like Otome.
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>>8812205
great advice!

Casual lolita is so easy to pull of yet is somehow simultaneously constantly done wrong, it's one of the great dichotomies of lolita
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1. Dear god please don't wear a petti in day to day life. As much as I love maximum floof at meets and cons, worn casually they are the woman's fedora. It's cringy as all hell.
2. To everyone suggesting custome accessories, Jesus Christ, stop! Op is asking how to make it LESS tacky.
3. Lolita is by definition not at all casual. Even casual lolita isn't really wearable. If you take lolita and make it wearable, it will break enough rules so as to not actually be lolita anymore.
4. I think what you are looking for is called himekaji.
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>>8812282
Costume accessories*
You'd think as a cosplayer my phone would have learned by now that I'm almost never trying to say custome.
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>>8812282
no that is not at all what we are looking for.
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>>8812286
Are you sure? Because after switching to a himekaji wardrobe 9/10 nerds still think that what I'm wearing is called lolita, and normies just admire how coordinated I am. Seems like what op is trying to say.
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>>8812288
yet I thought OP was asking to be LESS tacky
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>>8812290
I don't get why you seem to think that himekaji is inherently tacky. Liz Lisa produces pretty quality clothing. There's nothing costumey about their brand.
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>>8812288
Now that you're here, can himekaji be done i black? I tried searching but can only find pastels and anything not black is out of my comfort zone.
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>>8812298
It's not typical (I don't know of any prominent bloggers who wear mostly black) but I know that most major Liz Lisa releases will have some kind of dark colourway. You might have a hard time finding straight black but dark navy and browns are abundant. It can definitely be done.
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>>8812282
>Lolitas not casual or wearable

You sound like a noon who started lolita at the height of costumey wanna be princess OTT classic. Lolita is a fashionable and is therefore wearable. Casual lolita is even more wearable for every day. I don't know what you consider casual.
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>>8812298
this girl has a blog, Alice in Gyaruland, from what I can see Himekaji is just one of several jfashions she wears
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>>8812307
I don't wear lolita myself, but even the prettiest and most fashionable lolita becomes cringey when worn casually just like how even high fashion "streetwear" couldn't really be worn off the catwalk.
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>>8812309
she means can himekaji clothes be dark colors like black. holy shit i spat juice out from laughing at the fact that you thought someone referred to white people as pastels.
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>>8812313
I honestly read that 'I' and thought she missed the 'f' in 'if' never occurred to me it could be 'n' in 'in'

oy
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>>8812325
Nice bait
Left looks more himegyaru than himekaji desu
And the right is only walking the line between "could be justifiably posted in an ita thread" and "what the hell are you doing wearing this to a supermarket"
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>>8812335
Why did my phone right desu
I have literally never written desu in my life why did it add that
Phone are you high
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>>8812292
bitch, himekaji is the irl equivalent of those generic rich anime ojousama casual clothes.
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>>8812335
himegyaru here, don't lump us in with that shit. i think you're the one who's high.

also, it's a word filter you dip. baka desu senpai.
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>>8812338
Again I think you're thinking of himegyaru
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>>8812341
Huh, didn't realize they added a word filter. Anyway whatever it is that coat isn't anything himekaji girls would wear this decade..
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>>8812335
looked up Himekaji and there it was.
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>>8812343
himegyaru looks absolutely nothing like himekaji.
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>>8812348
From Liz Lisa's staff snaps

Don't trust Google image search blindly for fashion advice. You don't want to know what lolita could turn into in that case.
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>>8812349
More staff snaps
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Fuck this thread. Sweet Cream House is never going to look normie. If it's appropriate to wear lolita: wear it. If it's not: don't. Just suck it up and wear a cute tshirt and jeans instead.
If you like super casual coords or non-lolita outits using lolita items, awesome, anyone can appreciate a good, wearable outfit. But if you're doing it just to be "normie approved," grow a fucking backbone. You still look like a weirdo, and now you're an ita weirdo.
>>8812282
>don't wear a petti in day to day life
>woman's fedora
Holy shit you do not know anything, see pic related
>>8812311
>I don't wear lolita myself
Then you wouldn't know. You do look/get treated a bit like a special snowflake, but it's worth it to be able to express yourself.
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>>8812349
that looks like pic related how?
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>>8812353
I don't have to wear lolita to know that it looks either ridiculous or not lolita when people try to wear it casually...
I don't wear underwear on my head either, but that doesn't make me unqualified to criticize people if they did that.
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>>8811937
Why don't you try to find your local comm instead of toning down the style?
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>>8812356
It seems somewhat similar to me in the sense that I think it could coexist in the same wardrobe... Though I have no idea what your pic is meant to showcase whatever fashion it belongs to, I think it's a pretty generic example.
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>>8812349
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himegyaru and himekaji are not the same.

the former is about looking like a polished tacky princess who can afford all her expensive shit, conspicuous consumption at it's finest, the latter is about looking like a prim, feminine girl next door. himekaji is more on point and casual, something normies are drawn to because it looks effortless, while himegyaru makes women cringe due to it's egregious show of femininity to the point of sickeningly sweet overabundance.
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>>8812349
that should be a thread, Jfash before and after google images
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>>8812364
This is exactly the point I was making (saying that if they thought himekaji is tacky, it is probably actually himegyaru that they were confusing it with). I don't totally see why you are arguing with me over this.
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>>8812365
If you don't make it I'm totally going to tomorrow when I'm at my computer.

>>8812363
If you really think the only difference is the wig then you're just really misinformed.
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>>8812368
...it was a parody title....
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>>8812369
Are you >>8812364 then? There's definitely at least one Anon in here who seems to genuinely agree with this parody pic since they keep insisting that himekaji is tacky.
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>>8812366
because i'm the one saying that himegyaru looks like casual rich girl anime clothes. which it does. pic related is love live, but still. the only thing himegyaru looks like is that girl from keklakek
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>>8812370
no just someone who doesn't take anything too seriously. Let's face it all Jfash is tacky to Normies.
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>>8812372
And I'm the one who originally replied to the Anon who called himekaji generic anime rich bitch clothes saying that this description sounds a lot more like himegyaru... So from the very beginning it really sounds like we agree.
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>>8812372
also -i- don't think it looks tacky, just actually like it's from anime. (the fact that i'm using more than one love live character is pretty funny)
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>>8812345
it's so we can spot newbs like you
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>>8812373
Fair enough. People in my area seem to enjoy my fashion sense but it's a college town so it's way more open by default. In all honesty outside of work I'm sure I'd still wear himekaji on a daily basis even if everyone thought i looked like a clown since it makes me really happy.
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>>8812379
Interesting since I've been posting since 2009. But whatever.
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As entertaining as this thread is it's gotten way off track. OP wanted casual lolita inspiration so image dump commencing
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>>8812373
No, there are a lot of j-fashions that look really close to western stuff.
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>>8812382
are you the person that didn't know about the word filter? do you leave for months at a time?

it's obvious you don't know what's going on around here.
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>>8812383
Op wasn't asking for casual lolita though, they were asking for wearable lolita. Which looking back on it is actually pretty good bait in the first place.
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>>8812387
So basically you're so salty that you were wrong that you have to tell yourself I'm a newfag so that you can sleep at night?
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>>8812396
Oh honey no
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>>8812388
no they asked for normie approved, which is meaningless.
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Himekaji vs sweet lolita
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>>8812403
I thought we'd had enough "casual cute" threads to nuke ones like these.
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>>8812411
both of these fucking suck. really the bitch has a black fucking bag. i mean she's obviously too poor but fuck, she had to not to get one in brown.
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>>8812423
At least the one on the left just looks like she owns only one purse, instead of clinically insane
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>>8812424
atleast the one on the right just looks like she's clinically insane instead a vapid bitch who only owns one purse.
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>>8812423
the key to bait is subtly.
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>>8812282
Lol, normies can't tell if you are wearing a petti or not. I wear lolita daily and my friend who sews a lot asked me how I make my skirt to stay so puffy.
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>>8812455
the amount of times I've been asked how I get my skirt so puffy...
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>>8812337
i wish newfags would shut up or leave

your opinion is shit and you don't know how 4chan works, just lurk more
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>>8812501
minus the shoes, obviously, and with less poof
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>>8812501
minus headbow
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No matter how toned down or normie approve you try to make it, Lolita will always stand out and get you attention. That's what the fashion is meant to do.
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>implying millenial normies think non-jfash feminine fashions aren't "oppressive" or other retarded tomboy/ghetto comments

The only normies you're going to get approval from are old people and people like us who are only pretending to be normal. Dresses are only for weddings and prom night, according to some normies.

This is the shitty world we live in.
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>>8812531
What part of the world are you from? Lots of girls wear dresses where I am. Granted they're mostly maxi or boho themed
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>>8811937
OP are you me? Good timing.
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>>8811812
Ok first of all that "coord" is terrible.
Secondly
>normie approved
>caring about what normies will think
Lolita is about not giving two shits.

OTT lolita looks like a tacky costume to me even though i am lolita. But back in my time it was much more casual and wearable in general.

Anyway who cares if normalfags don't like it? You dress for yourself. You like it. That's it. The end.
If you want something cute but toned down there is otome or himekaji. Or even "casual lolita" like minimal poof,lolita skirt,cutsew or cardigan and there.
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>>8812537
A place in the southern US where dreams go to die.
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>>8812325
Syrup is larme-kei
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>>8811812
>seeking approval of normies
>ballet flats with lolita

Leave lolita, save your Dresses.
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>>8812282
Do you know what costume jewellery is you fucking dumbass? It's not literally a costume, it just means less precious materials/ more for fashion.
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>>8812325
what happened to her legs ?! I cant tell if you shopped the skirt too long or her legs too short ?
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>>8812575
Nah, from other photos it looks like her legs are a bit stumpy
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>>8812360
Agree with this. You also are not required to wear lolita every second of every day. I'm not really sure why you see it as a conflict of interest to be involved with lolita and to make friends.

You can:

Make friends who wear lolita.

Wear normal clothes when meeting non-lolita friends.

Wear otome, larme or other jfashion around more eccentric but non-lolita friends.

I guess it depends on the sort of friends you want to attract. Personally, I wouldn't be friends with someone who made fun of me for indulging in a fashion style. They don't have to like it or understand it but they have to tolerate it for us to be friends.
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You know I kinda get where the OP is coming from, as much as I applaud the 'dress for yourself, not the approval of others' sentiment the reality of such an outlook has its drawbacks.

Going on general errands and shopping etc, sometimes you want to wear the things that feel like 'you' and make you feel good without being stared at every five seconds, asked questions and have people whisper shit about you 'just doing it for attention' etc. Sometimes it's nice to have things slip kinda under the radar you know? Sometimes we don't want that noise. The reality is we don't live in some Japanese rpg land where people flit about wearing all sorts of weird and conventionally outlandish shit and it's just considered normal.

There are also practicalities to consider, I actually think it's pretty rude to wear a massive petti on public transport or anything that takes up unnecessary room for instance - I get why some people might think this gives off a vibe of 'my life and needs are more important than yours'.

I think a lot of the more old school looks are good for enjoying lolita fashion without drawing too much attention. The babydolls are great for this and don't require much in the way of petticoat poof. I kinda think it's a shame too that there seems to be this idea of late that something can't be lolita unless you have a big petticoat; in my opinion as long as it doesn't look completely sad and flat or distorted by the lack of poof, something relatively minimal for daily wear is absolutely fine, it's not like everyone is off to an angelic pretty style photo shoot each time they leave the house.

I think pic related is a good example of something that is not too attention grabbing but not really casual (or otome) either.
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>>8812282
you are why we can't have nice things
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>>8812282
>> calling Givenchy tacky
>> equating all costume jewelry

It's clear you know nothing of either lolita fashion or western high fashion.

Costume jewelry is by definition jewelry that is not made of precious stones or precious metals. Anything made with sterling silver and semi-precious stones is included.

God sometimes I wish cgl could do regular western fashion too.
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>>8812514
I really like this one!
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>>8812282
Maybe you'd talk less shit if you weren't such a basic bitch playing dressup for your photo session meetups.
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>>8812458
the amount of times old ladies have pulled up my skirt.....
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i thought of something to call many of the coords ITT: Corporate Lolita. like corporate goth; lolita for a professional workplace.
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>>8812828
thanks for not making your own thread but this is still offtopic tbqhfam
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>>8812701
Even with the jewelry misunderstanding, people were also suggesting leg avenue Pettis, which aren't at all more casual, just more cheap.
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>>8812851
I was going to suggest something low poof from malco modes for a daily petti. nice and soft, lots of material.
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>>8812856
>lolita cosplayers
>caps lock
please commit now

I love everyone posting print coords, all of these are dressed down so nicely
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>>8812856
Piss off
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>>8812575
Shoop kek. I made it in ms paint.
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>>8812553
From what I can see larme is just himekaji for cold weather
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>>8812205
Thank you for the advice!
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>>8812396
Is that margaret palermo
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>>8812411
>posting two poor bitches
Himekimoi & Sweet Ita
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>>8813040
Why do people keep saying they're poor?
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>>8812507
There's nothing wrong with coming up with coords for everyday wear that can impress normies instead of weirding them out.
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>>8813061

There are normie a who can appreciate good taste and then there are normie a who think you're fucking weird if you wear anything other than jeans and uggs.

>tfw the latter are my bf's friends from college
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>>8812507
Lolita's just meant to be an alt fashion, not necessarily grab attention.
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>>8813064

Wow autocorrect hanks for fucking up my post.

Normie a should be normies
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>>8813064
There are some main pieces and noteworthy coords that are prevalent in lolita that look very strange unless you understand the fashion and its unique rules and norms. There are other pieces, admittedly on the plainer side of things, which look good to most people regardless of fashion knowledge. I personally think it's good to keep this in mind when planning outfits for particular occasions.
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>>8813067
True, but what do you think alt fashion is? It's different from the norm so it naturally stands out and attracts attention (whether intentionally or not is irrelevant). That's not necessarily a bad thing, it just means you'll stand out no matter how much you tone down your coords because lolita, no matter how simple, just isn't common.
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>>8812816
I wouldn't recommend any of these for a workplace unless you work in a female-heavy industry. Even then, probably not. Like it or not, overly girly is associated with incompetent.
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>>8813378
what a dumb piece of advice

what kind of oppressive shithole do you live in that you would develop such a philosophy?
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>>8813378
i wore an overly girly outfit to my recent interview and now have a 50k/year salary job.
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>>8813403
Need details on outfit!! I am currently interviewing and trying to tread that fine line of office boring and something real and interesting about myself.
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>>8812531
Sadly true.

Last family wedding I went to in a nice estate property every one of my cousins was in a wrinkly cotton casual sundress and flat casual sandals. Even the bridal party. My family is across the board not a leggings and Uggs group but they've also never been super dressy. But wearing a tealength dress with a cardigan, small heels and a barrette even made me feel overdressed.

>>8813378
I partially agree, but I think it's less about 'girly' and more about 'childish'. I think feminine is a better description to angle for when trying for corporate lolita. No illustrative prints, accessories to a minimum, natural hair styled neatly, tights over any type of socks and absolute minimum poof I think are the most important aspects.

Reminds me that collageanon did some nice workplace lolita collages some time ago. If I find them I'll try to repost ones I think work well for this thread.
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>>8813078

I'm not disagreeing with you but I'm pointing out that normalfags who are turned off by anything but the most bland and mainstream fashion also exist. There's normalfag, and then there's basic bitch. And it's just freaking useless to try to please those people. I would guarantee most of the pics in this thread would turn them off. So it's useless trying to placate them.
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>>8813408
Diff anon but it really depends on the industry and their dress codes. I work in a business casual environment, so I can wear a lot. However if you have business wear you are going to have less to work with.

I did my interviews for the job I got atm with lolita blouses and pencil skirts.
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>>8811812
What is the specific brand and model name of that shoe, it's terrible for lolita but I absolutely need it to wear with jeans
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>>8813438
Not OP, but it's called Melissa Wanting by Melissa
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>>8813446
Thank you!!! I like Melissa and haven't seen those, just ugly new models like the lagerfeld gloves and sunglasses
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>>8813455
Lol, anon, in case if you are interested I'm selling a brand new pair of these exact shoes in black x white colourway, if you'll leave email I can send you pictures
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>>8813498
You can email me but I was hoping to find them on sale somewhere, all the other pairs I've gotten were around 25-40$ on end of season clearance. Also I'm in the US
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You can certainly dress down certain lolita pieces but the resulting outfit will probably not be lolita.
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>>8813797
No one said it was. Op just wants to wear her clothes in a way that is more approachable
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Not the op but I tried to tone down the lolita in this outfit and im not sure how I did
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>>8812358
If you don't know the aesthetic then fuck off. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>8814289
I get a punk vibe from this, not a lolita one. Also something about the color blocking feels off, like you need something red on your head and something solid black (like a wide belt) to demarcate between the plaid and the solid red.
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>>8814381
Thanks for the crit! I think I should have changed my shoes to heels to remove the punk vibe(but its hard to kill my love for rhs) any suggestions to push it more into casual lolita territory or can I just jokingly call this "casual punk rorita"
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>>8813601
Is this girl still around? I always thought she was too cute.
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>>8812390
ah, bait. this one's rather detailed.
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>>8812507
If fannyrose walked down the street where I live no one would bat an eye.
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>>8812543
You'll never be fully autonomous.
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>>8812599
What if they move somewhere there isn't a comm or there's only a small comm of itas?
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>>8814926
then wear what makes you happy/comfortable.
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>>8813048
They're saying the outfits look cheap like maybe they didn't have enough money to buy the real thing
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>>8811937
Honestly, it sounds like you care way too much about what normies think to be a lolita.
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>>8812282
>not knowing what costume jewelry means in this context
You should really educate yourself before speaking next time
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>>8811812
>>8811857
You should look up casual lolita. It has existed for a while.
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I think your reasons to wear casuallolita/toned down coords is silly but I love this style so here is a small picture dump
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obviously if you want to please normies it's better to go with solid colours, natural make-up and without a giant fake looking wig
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And Misako made up a style called soft lolita for people who want normies approval
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>>8817485
>Misako reminded people that Casual Lolita exists.

Fixed.
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>>8814928
Read
>you'll never be truly autonomous
Sometimes what makes someone happy is knowing that others around them accept them for what they look like.
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>>8817485
Misako didn't "make a style." She just made up a term to cover casual lolita and otome and further her fucking efame agenda.
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>>8811937
You don't need to justify. To get a proper Lolita outfit you need a lot of work and special accesories. Just starting with a plain skirt and common fashion sense is not that hard. Maybe try Larme? go for plain dresses and natural colors.
Also, beginners tend to feel observed, but once you get more practice wearing Lolita, you will feel more comfortable to wear more and more frills around normies and notice nobody gives a shit
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>>8812041
No, this skirt is not too full. It has its own petti and it is up by itself at a very safe volume
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>>8812282
Don't wear a petti in a skirt that NEEDS a petti and we'll get a normie-ita
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>>8817540
Lol, no it's not. I own SCH, too, and it looks weird without a petticoat. There's too much fabric in the skirt (i.e. it's too full, like the other anon said) to wear without anything, so it gathers/bunches awkwardly. Also, otome prints are usually far less busy/have less going on. Even in this, a relatively busy ETC biscuit print, there is still only one overall pattern being repeated. SCH has at least 4-5 things going on.
Please don't act like you know what otome is when you clearly don't.
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>>8812531
So that's why some locals ask me if I'm the bride even if I'm wearing black.
Yes, also old people say that

Good for them, I'm enjoying y frills
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>>8817562
Which release? Mine is alright, the high waist, but I prefer more puff usually.

I'm not saying anything about otome, sweetheart.
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>>8817540
AP built-in pettis are not to be used as petticoats on themselves, anon.
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Tfw none of these coords would be approved of where I live.

I'd be fucking beat up or something. If I was going to wear a lolita or a j-fashion coordinate out I'd might as well just go full out. Wearing a cutesy frilly dress and a beret with cute socks is seen as overdressed and odd here I fucking hate it.
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>>8817737
>Wearing a cutesy frilly dress and a beret with cute socks is seen as overdressed and odd here
That's sadly extremely common in many many places. Lolita is alt fashion, it's going to attract attention regardless of how toned down it is, and some people do think that anything beyond t-shirts and jeans is "odd". That's just how the world is.
I don't know what people are like where you live so maybe I'm wrong but it sounds like you're just very insecure. Yes, people are going to stare at you, some of them might even be rude but unless your safety really is at stake, you should just wear what you want... unless getting any sort of attention makes you uncomfortable, in which case I doubt this fashion style is for you.
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>>8812455
Normies can tell buts it's considered socially unacceptable to talk to lolitas about their weeb clothes unless you want to be considered a daddy's girl with dress up issues. Story related:

>be me
>see girl with fugly Lolita outfit
>forced to talk to her because friends thought her outfit was cool
>she mumbles about her clothing, cannot talk to people in public.
>"I-I sew and create all of my clothes."
>"Yeah I can tell"
>mfw next semester she finally drops 90% of her Lolita wardrobe
>"Anon did you know her? I saw you talk to her a few times. Why did she dress like that?"
>"idk probably one of those girls who had daddy issues or got touched when they were 7, idk her personally."
>"why doesn't she talk to people, what a weirdo."
>"like I said earlier, probably daddy issues."

Feels good to get rid of her shit Lolita off of my campus.
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>>8817413
Not OP, but you can "be a lolita" without wanting to go full OTT and want to blend in to Western society. Western clothes are bland and ugly. What's the issue with wanting something that's wearable and cute without having others gawk at you while you run errands? Full-on lolita has its time and place, like at meets or photoshoots. Those who want to to all out every day, more power to them, but don't shit on those that don't feel that way.
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>>8817849
Basically the moral of this story and my post is that no Lolita fashion is considered normie so either go full out Lolita (by buying quality clothing) or just dress normie styled because trying to make a normie styles Lolita coord is just impossible because Normies will still notice and you will stick out like a sore thumb. Depending on your outfit, you might be seen as the following

>a girl going to an anime expo after class
>one of those Mormons going to church
>a "quirky" girl (and not in a good way)
>somebody going to a tea party
>somebody who role plays

None of those options are normie tier.
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>>8817879
*or just dress like a normie

(Too many mistakes due to sloppiness)
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>>8817737
Anon, cheer up! Get a job, save money, and just move to a safer neighborhood. I know a lot of my poor friends moved out kind of in wasteland neighborhoods in the country to save cash. They're a bit desolate, but cows and tumbleweeds aren't going to beat you up because you wore something cute.
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>>8817849
why be such a cunt, tho
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>>8817849
I hope this is bait.
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>>8814914
Dunno where you live, but here she'd grab a lot of attention for looking feminine/wearing pastels/looking like she put effort into her clothes.
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>>8812353
this
Man up or bitch out, if you're going to completely change the fashion, then it isn't that fashion anymore.
also
>caring about what people think of fabric
I know high school is hard, but it doesn't last forever, anon.
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>>8817511
that's why I said happy/comfortable
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>>8817849
>normies will think you're "a daddy's girl with dress up issues", socially unacceptable to talk about it
And yet
>friends interested
>people ask about it
>you quickly remind them they should be assuming she has daddy issues and shut down convo like a sperg

I hope you get the hug you need today, anon.
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>>8818197
I've never seen her wearing anything but classic, and honestly, a lot of women where I live dress in something similar only without a petti obviously.
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This thread recks of robots
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>>8818357
Obviously our areas are different, but it's rare to see anyone in vintage-styled clothes here. I got odd looks for wearing jeans and a pastel jumper from Forever 21 the other day.
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OP what pieces do you have? Fashion collage is my hobby.
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Most of these are totally unsuitable for most office environments. I think >>8813378 is thinking of the financial/business sectors, where, yes, standing out as particularly 'feminine' is not a good thing. I'd wear some of these coords to a job in the arts, or teaching - any occupation where you're required to look approachable as well as professional.
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>>8818350
Yeah people asked about it but not in a good way.
"What is she wearing?" with a sort of concerned/disgusted look, not like a "OMG what is she wearing that looks so cool.."

Also my friends asked about it because they wanted to start a collection of new clothes for her because her homemade clothes/coord were ATROCIOUS. Perhaps I should have emphasized that part in my original post. My friends thought this girl was homeless/really poor since her outfit was so sloppy.

Pic related, though it's not her it's just some random pic from google but it's the closest I could find. Imagine some quiet girl wearing this ratty Lolita-ish dress everyday to college while barely speaking a word to anyone.
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>>8817879
I have been never asked about fetishes or whatever either. Not every normie sees it like above. And guess what: I don't give a fuck if they do. I have friends and people around me who thinks it's fine or even cool so I don't have to worry what someone else thinks about clothes I want to wear. I feel most confident in lolita and life is too short to worry about what every random will think.

Probably a bait but yeah.
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>>8818955
You realise this story isn't even lolita related if she looked like that?
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>>8818955
>>8817849

Oh man. 10/10 anon, you totally made my day.

Now whenever I see any anons yelling "lolita looks like a costume you will never not stand out like a sore thumb!11!" I'm going to remember you, and this horrible pic you posted of a weeb wearing ill-fitting replicas. I'm going to remember that you still legit thought this is even lolita at all despite half the board being filled with actual lolita content, including permanent ita and nitpick threads devoted to picking apart outfits that look even better than your pic.

I used to write off all the "all lolita r costumes" comments as just trolling, but now knowing that some of them are being posted by clueless idiots like you makes it so much easier to laugh at it.

polite sage for OC.
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>>8812282
People like you should stick to cosplay
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>>8812311
Wait you don't even wear lolita? Why are you giving others advice? Get out
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>>8817520
Nothing wrong with that, it's a cute style.
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>>8817879
Normies in my town don't know anime expo or roleplay. I never get rude comments about my lolita coords, just one time someone asked if I'm going to a wedding. I don't wear AP tough.
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>>8819075
Somebody didn't read the "Lolita-esque" part of sentence. Never said that the hideous dress was official Lolita clothing at all. Reading comprehension is an important skill to have :^)
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>>8813378
I work in a male-dominated industry and wear lolita to work at least once or twice a week and am still treated seriously/with respect.
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>>8819679
Anon, may I ask what style do you usually wear?
I mostly wear classic and still get a lot of comments from normies
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>>8817873
It's not that she wants it to be less OTT, it's that in that post her reasoning was pretty much entirely related to what other people think.
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>>8813378
This doesn't look infantile. You have to worry about looking cute and young but the sort of outfit she's wearing looks quite confident and adult.
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>>8819748
Yeah but where do you live
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>>8818405
Nah, that's something else probably. If you got something from F21 that means it's most likely near you which means plenty of people shop there cause that's a normie store. I mean unless you got more than a look and someone showed actual disgust at what you were wearing and said something.
You can't base this off looks alone. What if they didn't like your hair or bag or something?
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