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>>8810752
The old one is only at 311... Autosage is like 320 now.

I absolutely love that, though. Too bad (or good for my wallet) there's no dark navy

>>8810752
> that white OP
Hnnng, but I know I can't afford it unless CAD suddenly shoots up like something shooting up really fast.

I really hope the print is more visible in person. It already gets lame points for looking awful in any photo.

>>8810762
Are you certain? My phone shows it as autosaging, and it isn't bumping with new posts either.

>>8810774
Agreed, it looks sooo shiny.

>>8810774
omg, i read your post and thought 'wait there's a print' then i looked at the pic again, adjusted my monitor and i can almost make it out...

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so is the print basically a low contrast version of cosmic or what

Does anyone have the pics of those unreleased AP dresses from some recent tea party? There was an angel/cross or something themed one, an Imai Kira teddybear I think, etc

>>8810762
What? There is navy?

There's a black? I must.

>>8810752
This looks cheap. Like something worth $50 from Souffle Song.

>>8810762
>The old one is only at 311... Autosage is like 320 now.
is picking random numbers for "the new autosage" a meme now?

it is 310 for /cgl/ and this has not changed in months.

>>8810779
Right? what the fuck AP.

Anyone knows how was the IW flash sale? Do they have nice items or just the regular sales stuff? Just want to know if it's worthy enough to get up early for it.

>>8810787
>dark
the one in OP looks shiny as fuck.

>>8810809
There's two in OP.

What is it with AP making their prints as hard to see as possible lately? I love constellations, but I don't know what's going on here. It looks somewhere between print and non-print and it doesn't look good either way.

>>8810808
a lot of the stuff there was up in last years summer sale from what I could see. I think they've finally managed to shove all their Rozen Maiden stuff into Luck Packs as it wasn't haunting the sales page like it has for like the last two years.

>>8810849
Looks like the same idea as Shadow Dream Carnival.

I do agree that they've gotten a bit contrast happy on their photos lately.

>>8810801
I wouldnt say "months" more like a month...

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>>8810808
There are items from last year's summer sale plus outerwear they restocked for the cold season plus some new/rereleased dresses (pic) with a 30% discount.

>>8810752
Will this be a bloodbath?

>>8810752
their website says this goes on say in like six days- are we not going to be able to get any better views of the material and other colors til then? Im interested in the black, but the 1inX1in star cut-out of it I see

>>8810752
Was pretty neutral on Holy Lantern, some colorways looked good and others meh, but this dress is boring and cheap looking. What the fuck, AP?

Lolita Desu just sent awarded me 480 reward points... I haven't bought anything from them for months, let alone used the site. I went on the site and it all seems official enough, did anyone else get this?

>>8810874
it has been this way for longer than that, anon. check the archives.

>>8810752
i want to like it but it's so satin-shiny. the stock photos look awful.

>>8810752
I feel kinda "eh" about this.

>>8810849
I'm more irritated that all colors seem to have a golden print but the print on the navy version looks transparent?

>>8810752
I kinda want OP in white but I think it's mostly just cause it's a star print, not necessarily a good one

>>8810857
I kind of regret not having bought the Kirakishou socks now. Thanks for the info!
>>8810902
That dress is cute, damn now I'm curious enough to check it out

That is fucking hideous.

>>8810762
Why is there always someone ready to complain anytime a new thread is made less than 10 posts early? Plus, it is 310, anyway.

>>8811071
That's how I feel about the JSK in black. I missed the reservation of that one in taobao. I'm hoping there's in-store pictures of the dresses somewhere, desperate to see if it actually looks any nicer.

I actually kind of like it. But I can't say for sure until I see better photos.

>>8810752
This would look much nicer if the constellations were more visible, like in gold or a darker color. I'm not sure if I like it or not.

>>8810752
I only love either subtle/no print dresses, I love OP's with long sleeves,I love constellations, and that shade of white. It feels like it was meant for me. I'm glad nobody is really super into it.

>>8810815
Yeah and they both look shiny

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My gosh, it's primary school art level

>>8810752
>absolutely love it
Now only if I had $300 on hand...

>>8811184
yeah, definitely would like store pics. right now it just confuses me.

>>8811297
it is gold tho, no?

>>8811316
.. okay, I really don't like the gridding very much

>>8811321
>Rufflecon ended months ago but I'm still getting tagged in really bad, unflattering pictures where I'm shiny and have awkward face
Will it never end? I just want to put that weekend of stress, tiredness, and little fun behind me.

>>8811316
What happened to gorgeous, elegant AP prints with detailed, understated prints? Everything I've seen since the start of 2015 has felt like either a clusterfuck or an MS paint clipart collage. Did they hire a new artist who happens to suck?

>>8811335
Also didnt mean to quote >>8811321, gomen.

>>8811316
It's fucking cosmic with a grid??

>>8811316
This is so bad. I hope they were just desperate to crank out a print because this has zero soul.

I hope all you bitches don't buy this dress because as an astrology lover this is my jam, and unless i win the Powerball tonight i can't afford it right now.

>>8810752
Am I the only one who things the fabric looks very cheap? It looks like the fabric you usually use for lining...

>>8811352
Just get a cosmic. This dress looks terribad anon... like don't do this to yourself

>>8811372
Agreed, I think it's too satin-y. Would have been excellent on something like a brushed cotton or velveteen, like a winter-weight complement to Cosmic.

>>8811372
It does look bad in the stock photos, but I don't think it'll actually look bad in person. I don't own any AP, but I know a lot of people always say that they think some Baby/Aatp dresses look shiny and gross, but I own a few of these pieces and they all have a gorgeous and lush sheen to it which is really pretty. Sometimes I feel people are scared of braking the "no shiny fabrics" rule, but don't know the difference between shiny and a lovely sheen.

Maybe I'm completely wrong, though, and this will look cheap and shiny.

>>8811338
Cosmic looks so cuter to me. Constellations are being placed much more massively over the print, also all of that constellation names, moon and milky way patterns give a really pretty touch. Twinkle Sky looks like cheap taobao copy of Cosmic.

>>8811316
gold print is cute and shit, but you just can't see it on the fucking dress. It just vanishes.
If it wasn't for that I'd consider buying ist, but I'm not buying I print I cannot see. Shadow Dream Carnival was atleast not super small and fragile like this.

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Sakuya Lolita dress looks totally alike to me while being three times cheaper. AP really lowered their standarts of prints.

>>8811443
This is way cuter desu

>>8811443
This dress at least has nice detailing and a visible print, too. AP has really disappointed me for the last year or so. The only prints I can think of that I've really liked from them this past year are British Bear and Chocolate Rosette, and CR was a re-release.
Whip Jacquard is cute, but the JSK detailing is fucking weird, and it was disappointing as the year's chocolate print. I like the University series, too, but hot damn, is that cut unflattering on anyone with over an A cup.

>>8811443
I missed the reservation for this dress and am killing myself every day since. I like the fabric more than cosmic from what I've seen in photos.

>>8811352
I dont think anyone really wants it.....

>>8811316
What's the fucking problem with this? It's just a basic star pattern. Some releases just aren't heavily printed with animals and objects.

>>8811417
This. I'll risk it, it doesn't look shiny in a cheap satin way. It looks silky to me.

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>>8811431
It's cosmic on a grid, not that you could tell anyway.

>>8810752

>You can barely see the print on the navy or blue

What was even the point. I'm all for understated prints, Shadow Dream Carnival was mentioned, and I think that worked pretty well in all of the colors. But this is so empty looking, not even the dark colors can save it.

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>>8811505
Please don't tell me that's it.

>>8811473
Do you think they'll ever do a second round of its requested enough?

>>8811519
I'm hoping it's better in person. AP's stock pictures are always overly brightened.

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Can someone tell me why everyone hates the cut of the bodice? Out of all the problems I have with this, the cut of the neckline isn't one of them.

>>8811580
>cheap ass white lace (why?)
>costume/cosplay like corset
>ugly cheap ribbon
>upper bodice just meh
not for 10000 yen for sure

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>>8811505
I can't get over how shiny the top is for no reason and how dull the bottom and print is. It reminds me of the whole Holly Tea Time scandal where the top just didn't match the bottom and whole dress was a mess.

>>8811505
Is it just me or are the colors of the collar, sleeves, bodice and skirt all slightly different?

>>8811592
it' cause there's like, 4 different shell fabric on this dress.each part is made out of something different, there's no way they are all gonna match perfectly.

>>8811592
Sleeves are a different material, I think. Bodice and skirt could be the shit lighting

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Screw AP,Meta is the future!

Does anyone know when AP USA usually has their winter sale? They have so much stock that's just sitting there, while it's already below market value secondhand.

>>8811575
Yeah but even the picture of the model wearing one you can barely see the print and they used proper lighting in that picture... there's just no way this dress looks good.

>>8811505
What the fuck has AP come too. This looks cheap.

>>8811505
Literally looks like Taobao
>Or Meta

I'm curious about what the Japanese Lolitas think of this.

>>8811505
It looks like bathroom tiles.

>>8811694
Isn't there a huge merging of lots of different street styles going on though? They'll probably buy it.

>>8811505
So, I think the bodice might be partially sheer. It looks like you can see the dress form through it next to the lacing/paneling. And it's so light and flowy.

Got an email this morning from Antique Beast saying that they'll open up on 1/14 at 21:00!

>>8811586
Now that you say that, I could see the corset being a leftover from a Mami cosplay. I hate this and don't get the hype unless Bodyline fans just aren't used to classic

>>8811604
Lmao I like you

Make a meta fan page somewhere, I'll join you

>>8811580
>>8811586
>>8811734
Damn, I was thinking the same, it looks like the Mami's corset... how cheap Yan can be...?

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>>8811691
excuse you, don't insult meta like this

>>8811845
Ugh. It looks so cheap in this pic.

>found something on MM
>still in stock
>place order
>check page again
>now sold out
>no email yet

I'm a little worried, anyone have this happen before?

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>>8811845
>>8811505
The real life photos somehow make me like it even less. It looks so fucking cheap and shiny, like a kid's costume.

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Did anyone else see this trainreck on lolita humor?

People are calling the OP rude and saying she is offending poor people who can't afford clothes.

>>8812014
I'm not in the group but that's fucking hilarious

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For the Anon who wanted to see other lucky packs.

I got my fint pack the other day.
Everything is adorable.
Was definitely needing sweaters.

I also got a Swimmer pack and that was fun to open.

>>8812014
>offending people who can't afford clothes
>implying Bodyline is still a good "affordable" choice...

Kek

>>8812014
The OP sounds like an ita who can't make any brand look good. Anyone who gets offended by that picture is an idiot though.

>>8812014
"There's no harm in offending people sometimes."
>says the middle class white bitch
>kek

>>8811845
Is it organza? It's absolutely fucking hideous just like Horror Garden.

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>>8812072

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>>8811821
All I'm saying is people would be eating this dress up if it where put out by meta

>>8812099
Based meta. Bodyline is boring (seriously lacking nice details) and the prints are always cheap looking. All their main pieces and skirts are either design replicas or ugly

>>8812073
>calling Horror Garden hideous

>>8812099
No, it'd still be ugly. meta wouldn't do this shit anyway, too mainstream for meta. the "meta makes ugly dresses" joke is a dead horse.

>>8812151
It's that shiny, stiff organza crap with a thin, cheap pleather bodice tacked on. It has a strange cut and looks strange on a lot of girls. I've never liked it,

>>8812014
I mean, they're not wrong. That dog gets it.

>>8812014
oh my god that's great. i love that OP

>>8812014
I wouldn't call OP rude but I would call OP tryhard. Cute dog though.

This may sound like a stupid question, but I'm new to Lolita.

Are sideswept bangs okay? I have a pretty, wavy blonde wig I wanted to wear with my newest coord, but the bangs aren't cut straight across.

>>8812184
They're fine if you like them like that. It's super easy to cut them though. I did mine with no prior experience and I managed fine. Just brush gently and cut.

>>8812184

It's no problem when they're side swept, but if you're sweeping too-long bangs to the side it just looks sloppy.

There are tutorials on youtube to cut side swept bangs. They're pretty easy to follow. Just go slowly.

>>8812071
It's more annoying than offensive. The only thing offensive about it is how poorly executed the joke is.

>>8812163
Pleather bodice? What. No, it's not.

>>8812184
Are they cut at all anon? Or are they long so you can cut them to your face size/shape? If they aren't cut at all, please don't just pin them to the side and call it side swept bangs.

>>8810752
Gonna see how the headbow looks on the stock image. I need a cosmic headbow and if it looks nice, fuck it.

>>8811338
With a grid, minus the moons, and printed lightly, basically. The cuts are cuter than Cosmic (at least to me, but I have a fairly large bust), but the print is just... not good.

>>8811443
cute!

>>8812014
I'm a fan of some Bodyline designs, and Bodyline's concept in general. I think it's great that there's an online shop with all the basics you need that restocks frequently and has some solid designs, and I have a deep appreciation for girls who have been lolitas for a long time but still pull Bodyline out of their wardrobe on occasion. And all that being said, I still think that picture is hilarious.

>>8812208
That was my point. A lot of idiots got all worked up saying they were offended by this picture and whined in the comments on fb.

>>8812014
This is a shitty post but not for making fun of poorfags (which it's not in my opinion)

It's a shitty post just because it's putting down people who wear bodyline. Now BL definitely doesn't hold up to brand standards, but I do own a couple bodyline pieces that I really love.
This would still be a shitty thing if the post were "my dog sees BTSSB as a rag to lie on"
But it happens to be slightly more offensive to people because it makes her seem like an elitist bitch.
"Bodyline is shit and you're shit if you wear it" is the general vibe from the post.

I see what she meant by the post, but she looks like a cunt for posting it

>>8812248
Is this only not ok bc of you-know-who doing it?

>>8812184
All these anons telling you to trim anyway and to just follow tutorials. Fucking cgl.
Get a razor comb first. Cutting wig fibers with a pair of hair clippers is a huge pain in the ass. I tried it thinking it'd be fine and they came out all choppy. Razor combs are perfect for this however. And they're actually easy to use.
Look up ardas razor comb tutorial video, it's not even that long cause it's so simple to learn.

>>8812014
>accused of making fun of poor people who buy Bodyline
>clearly buys Bodyline herself

If these "poor people" are too oversensitive to take a joke, why join lolita humor?

>>8812471
I don't think it's meant to put down anyone. It seems like it's just meant to joke around about the whole "elitist bitch who hates on Bodyline" stereotype.
I don't think she really looks like a cunt, more like a tryhard.

>>8812484
No, it's not okay because it looks like shit.

For anyone who missed out on Meta's Vintage Rose, they've re-listed both tights and JSK on their website. The products won't be ready until June by the looks of it

goddamnit lolibrary's down just as I needed it for measurement references to sell a dress.

>>8812541
Look at Google cache.

>>8812484
This is a long-standing complaint people have had about wigs. It's one of the first indicators that it's not real hair, for that matter.

>>8812014
There's a difference between not being able to afford clothes and not being able to afford buying a particular fashion.

>>8812062
Man, I am still so pissed at myself for missing the fint one.
Thanks for sharing, anon.

>>8812527
you mean Vintage Cameo?

>>8812624
Still available.

>>8812014
I thought this was hilarious, the mad comments make it even funnier

I want to draw this dog

>>8812484
Sideswept bangs have been complained about since long before she was even relevant.

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>>8812484

I have a bit strange question. Which Classic dresses you consider to be somewhat "iconic" for the fashion? Especially ones with painting prints.

>>8811580
This dress is so ugly, I cant even point a single positive thing in design...

>>8812757
Toppest of keks

>>8812062
That's an awesome pack, anon! Do you have pics of the Swimmer pack? I love seeing lucky packs

>>8812757
This is grade A content

>>8812014
It would have been much funnier if it was a replica.

>>8812075
You basics who say "go back to Tumblr" at every little thing are worse than actual Tumblrinas.

>>8812765
Not sure about prints but I think MM's Saint Claire OP and Antoinette Fleur OP are both iconic.

>>8812757
Genius. Pure genius.
>RIP Alan Rickman though

>>8812765
To me, classic can be divided into oldschool classic, like MM and everything rose gobelin (Baby made one I really like, IW and meta had very, very similar prints), and modern classic, of which I would think IW strahov library and union jack jsk's would be most iconic

>>8812839
alan didn't play voldemort tho...

>>8812832
they had a genuine reason to say that though. the post before they are replying to is very tumblr SJW tier. What's more annoying than "gb2tumblr" posts are the defensive "stop saying that!~" posts after them.

>>8812184
The bangs are that long so you can style them yourself I believe. Don't just pin them to the side, sideswept bangs need to be cut and styled too.

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>>8811381
>this on velveteen

>>8812902
I know anon, but HP link

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Would these shoes be okay for lolita?

>>8811381
UGH YES, and no velveteen dress this year, this would have been perfect, fuck ap use your head!

>>8811381
>petition to velveteen this print
>I'm ready
But really, what I wouldn't give for a nice AP velvet print in general. Maybe just write to them and say you'd like velveteen at all.

What's the deal with AP USA's shipping? I waited for them to get my lucky pack from Japan and they emailed me that they had my order and then sent me my order tracking, but it's been at creating a label since Monday. When will I get this package?

>>8812765
IW's Lotta.

>>8813042
I think they'd look nice with gothic or darker classic looks. I think they're a bit mature for sweet though.

>>8813095
yes

>>8813059
M chocolate rosette jsk is still not shipped and I'm pissed.

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>>8812240
>Horror Garden
>Pleather bodice

Pretty sure Anon is talking about this version. Compared to the others its kinda meh.

>>8813231
That's still not pleather.

>>8813231
the way the bottom of the bodice just hangs off as if on a shelf, and how nothing ties the top to the bottom, it's really pathetic that AP put this out.
All this money coming and resources at their dispense and they charge top dollar for this and Twinkle Sky.

Regarding IW luckypacks, does the Spring pack tend to have more fall/winter release items in it? Or which LP would be best if I'm aiming to get leftovers from FW collections? The New Years packs seem to be filled largely with pastel spring/summer items but I seem to recall the last set of LP's also had mostly pastel items. Do they just not put darker pieces in LP's because they sell better on normal Sales?

>>8812548
What? Lots of normies still have side swept bangs...

>>8810808
I don't know what IW is thinking with this flash sale format... It's quite a turnoff. I know they have trouble keeping up with orders during popular releases/sales but this just means they'll sell less altogether.

>>8812873
Union Jack is just a concept rehash of Grazia, so I would think Grazia which is much more popular anyway would be much more iconic.

Seconding Lotta as well.

>>8813297
You can tell by the volume and way it bulges out because they're untrimmed as to whether they're fake or not, though. Usually natural sideswept bangs have some roots showing because they're thinner.

>>8812765
MM perfume bottle, I.W Stained glass rose and maybe JetJ's library print?

The only ones I know of that are painting prints and highly sort after are more gothic styling. I think they tend to be highly sort after as the reservation period was either very short or people couldn't afford the reservation price and wait for it to appear on the secondhand market.

>>8813231
The vest is not pleather, not on the jsk or on its own. Tbh it would have been better if it was as it would have been stiffer.

>>8813309
>I don't know what IW is thinking with this flash sale format... It's quite a turnoff. I know they have trouble keeping up with orders during popular releases/sales but this just means they'll sell less altogether.
I know some people have stopped trying to order form them during sales because of their disorganized nature and the minimal chance that you'll actually get what you order...so I don't really think they're losing any more business this way than they already have. At least they're making an effort to change (...though why not just invest in a better website? That's my question.)

Anyone seen non-stock photos of Twinkle Sky in black? Any cut? Im hoping the darkness will save it. THe white, doesnt look TOO bad....

>friends talking about next year's Rufflecon already
>the club rooms might already be gone?
>probably won't get VIP tickets

Hate to be a bitch to my friends, but I just want to tell them that I'm not traveling states away to blow a huge chunk of money just to get treated secondclass. Hope it goes well for them, though.

Why do westerners try to make otome and Lolita into completely separate styles? They're both called Lolita in Japan, coords that would be called otome here are called Lolita there, what happened with that?

>>8813187
Thanks! I've been trying to find some comfort heels that I can wear to cons and meets with lots of walking involved. Might go with these then!

>>8813450
Because people were wearing JM and non-poof ETC back in the day and other people were complaining it wasn't lolita enough for EGL. The petticoat rule was hard and fast.

>>8813450
Pretty sure that otome brands try not to associate themselves with lolita so I don't think it's purely a western thing.

>>8813499
Otome brands doing their fashion spreads in So-en says it all.

>>8813398
Personally I'd still rather try at my own convenience than to have to set an alarm for a clearance sale and still maybe not get anything... For a hyped up new release ok, but not the sale bin.

If I remember correctly the issue is less the website and more that they don't have enough staff to handle all the orders. Apparently they've had an open job listing for an international sales handler for ages now but they still haven't been able to find someone. Small employee pool but not a very enticing job (have to speak/write english fluently, presumably interested in lolita, but very low pay).

>>8813550
It's driving me mad, I don't think I could even buy something from the sale right now because my bank balance is really low, but I just want to look at the stock and confirm it with my own eyes.
Not window shopping is suffering.

>>8813566
Same here, anon. I at least want to know *what* items are for sale. Would any anons who catch it mind just screenshotting the page so we can see what items they had up?

>>8813370
>sort

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Question everyone, so my bf got me this skirt brand new with tags which I am happy about but the down side, it's size 1 and it's a bit too small for me. Do you guys think someone will be willing to trade for this skirt in size 1 for a bigger size in like new or new condition? I never done trades before do idk if people are willing to trade sizes of the same skirts.

>>8813504
That means shit all. The Gothic & Lolita Bible has straight up punk stuff in it. Just because it's in the same magazine doesn't mean it's the same thing.

>>8812873
Baby's Gobelin stuff is all super sweet

>>8813599
can I ask what skirt this is?

>>8813672
It's Haenuli's Royal Kitten. It's really pretty in person desu, the stock photos really don't do much justice for it.

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>>8813504
>>8813450

No. Back in the day, someone on egl said they called up either ETC or JM and got told "we aren't a lolita brand, we're an otome brand". Even more telling, the two styles are rarely on the same floors in their shopping malls, you can usually find all the lolita brands on one floor and then the otome brands will be on a different floor.

There's a lot of difference anyway. cgl only ever seems to have eyes for the printed dresses, but pic here is a MILK outfit for 2015, straight out of their lookbook. I've seen normie-looking shorts, pencil skirts, sheath dresses and all sorts of silhouttes from most otome brands, it's just not posted on cgl. I think cgl cherry-picks the most lolita-looking outfits they like, and then confuses itself on why lolita and otome looks so much alike.

May be a stupid question or I may have missed something. What does AP USA mean by a not ticketed release? Also how soon after a release via the USA shop can someone order just accessories?

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Pricing thread is closed.
How much can I expect to pay for pic related in used condition?

>>8812624
like >>8812646 anon pointed out.
I think they still have the listing up on the web-shop.
Do it, go get it.

>>8812773
I have not taken pics yet. I was gonna try and snap some tomorrow. I'll post some then.

>>8813773
Make a price check thread perhaps?

Do any of you have a copy of the JetJ makeup book? I'm thinking about getting a copy but I'm wondering about what the content is like.
Also, recommendations for a petticoat that travels well? I travel a lot and mine always die so fast, I'm tired of having to replace them so often.

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>>8810808
>>8813572
>>8813550
I don't remember all the things that were up for sale. It was pretty much like their last sale though which means they had some leftover items that aren't currently in store anymore like the alice mushroom JSK.

However they also offered upcoming releases at a 20% discount. I definitely remember the flower print underbust JSK and the tartan OP.

>>8813882
There's only Dakota listed as the model, so no thanks.

I'm Asian anyways so the makeup tutorials probably won't work for me. It seems more like a photobook with some makeup tips.

>>8813450
If I remember correctly, japanese don't call it Otome but rather "wearing JM or ETC". Otome doesn't exists like that in Japan but is still very different from lolita.

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>>8813572
Like >>8814050 said, quite a few of the items are leftovers from previous collections, and pic related shows the new stock that's also on discount if that interests you. Some colors and sizes are already sold out, mind you.

>>8813275
I think this is unpredictable. There is a slightly higher chance to get a chiffon bolero in an autumn pack and a warm jacket in a spring pack, but regarding colors you cannot really say, it depends on what they have left after sales. I suggest you to look on their flash sale they are having right now. The items that are in stock in all colors will definitely appear in the next lucky packs.

>>8813773
120 usd. really popular and sought after. if only you sold the black version...

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I hope IW does a proper release of this dress, I actually like this simpler cut much more than the original (it's just too fancy for my daily style). Was sad when I heard they were currently lucky pack only.

>>8813572
I thought of making screenshots, but considering their website's layout and the number of items in the sale you need to make, like, dozens of screenshots. I'm not capable of this at 5 am.

>>8814070
Me too, anon. I highly doubt they will though.

>>8814070
I doubt they would, this print was not popular in the first release. It goes for pretty cheap secondhand now, I bought mine for under 10000 yen. Though I don't understand why, this print is so pretty.

>>8813641
It does mean something though, because Japanese magazines have very specific demographics. Punk and lolita can be grouped under the Harajuku umbrella that Kera caters to while So-en is connected to Bunka. Different types of fans entirely.

>>8814074
Get Awesome Screenshot for Chrome. Allows you to capture the screen or a whole page in one go.

>>8813370
Iconic doesn't mean sought after, there are lots of sought after dresses.
It means that the dress is a prime example for the classic style or that the dress influenced the style a lot (e.g. it did set a new trend). Also that when you think of classic lolita you think of that specific dress. I think these >>8812834 are good examples. And also IW's Grazia Crown, it started a trend for crown prints and the elizabethan OTT styling. Iconic dresses for JetJ would be amour damants (it started the painting print fad with JetJ) and maybe la fee d'une fleur as it's such an exquisite and luxurious classic design and other brands have yet to top it. It's a prime example for high quality pieces in classic lolita. When I think of Victorian Maiden, I think of their Classical Doll OP, so that's another iconic dress for me.

>>8813599
While yes you could, the chances that you will is slim. The more specific you are in what you want to trade, the less likely it will happen. You are better off finding if you can see if anyone will sell the skirt you want.

>>8812834
These are real classic dresses. >>8814157
Do you remember when IW was not considered classic, but sweet lolita? MM/VM type non-print A-line styling were the only true classic back then.

>>8813599
seconding >>8814194
I suggest you alter it. It's not a big task for a seamstress.

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Anyone going for Magic Princess? I hope its not too much of a blood bath and that they announce more colors/cuts. I think it'd look good in lavender.

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Beautiful print. I don't like the people, but the way everything else is set out makes it alright, and I don't feel like the crosses are "too much"

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Does anyone here have a non-blurry copy of melty sky from the latest KERA?

>>8814244
I love how this print, especially the blue version, looks from far away. But, I wish they hadn't included the music notes on the top and the choir children. To be honest, they cheapen the look of the print.

>>8814234
I considered buying it. Reminds me so much of magical girls and has a yellow colorway but I'm not really feeling it somehow. Maybe it's the random chandeliers.

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>>8814261
Not a better picture of the JSK sadly, but the OP.
I love the color! I'm so happy AP does more of the dark blue colorways instead of flat out navy. Will definitly going for the JSK in that color.

>>8814234
Yeah I'm definitely going for it.

>>8814261
I thought there was a semi famous lolita that lives in Japan who always posts actual scans of KEra online. I cant for the life of me remember the name though.

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I want this on my body so bad

>>8814060
Thanks anon

>>8814432
I've had enough with space and crosses. Can we just have a combined space and cross print dress?

>>8814432
This is too AP to be IW

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>>8810752
There was a miscommunication with my SS for "The Grace" reservation and sadly she got me the wrong JSK which I do not plan to keep.
This hasn't happened to me before and I don't know what to do about it.

>>8814472
which ss did you use? i've had trouble with a specific one...
>put in order with SS
>one item is in stock but other is going rereleased in 1 month
>buys item and keeps it there to combine shipping
>rerelease happens, gets item
>sends me package
>item that was sitting around for a month is completely wrong cut, color everything
how did you not see this for a month.png
>oh sorry, anon i didn't check, it's long sold out now, you can send it back and i'll refund you
fuck.

i only use big professional SS from now on, even if they're more costly.

>>8814480
I don't wanna name and shame, I'll just say its a well-known and respected SS which makes me all the more dissapointed.

>>8814484
the one i used is too. i'd really like to know if it's the same one. i'm not going to name and shame either, but it would suck if it is and they're not getting called out.

>>8812646
>>8812646
What the hell... I could have sworn it was sold out when I checked like last week. Thanks, anons. >>8814060
I really want the bottom row OP in wine.

>>8814432
What the heck are those constellations? I love this, though. If AP did more mature stuff like this I'd actually start buying from them. As it is most of my wardrobe is IW

>>8814485
I think its best to wait and see how things get resolved if they do... But unless they do this is the last time I'll be using her SS.
BTW the SS I'm talking about is not a group of people just a single person, I'm sorry you didn't get what you asked but Im glad you got a refund, I might notbe so lucky.

>>8814484
>>8814485
i'm sorry if this is too specific, but is it someone with a webshop? because I've had a similar experience recently too and if it's really the same person I think we should say something.

>>8814493
>>8814494
it is a single person with a webshop...part of why i got a refund(i had to send it back) was since she could sell it on there after.

>>8814486
The bordeaux colorway was still in stock in all sizes when I took a look at the sale on Thursday; bordeaux is usually one of the less popular colorways when it comes to IW's white collared OPs so you probably have a good chance to get it.

>>8811443
>>8811473

I regret making the secret publicising it. I felt like I had to to point out how AP needs to step up, that shit shouldn't fly just because it's brand and to save gulls who were thinking about getting Cosmic some cash etc. I became broke suddenly when my parents fucked off and I had a teenage boy to feed as well as an unpaid internship I needed bus fare to get to, so I never got to reserve one for myself.

>>8811498
But they don't look like cheap costume satin either. I remember when lolita wasn't about prints and used nice fabric.

>>8814494
yes mine is a single person with a webshop too...

>>8813599
Doubt you'll find someone with Royal Kitten. I tried to find someone to trade Wolf in Frame with (far too big for me) for a year, then failed at altering it.

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>>8814432

>That fabric overlay with the embroidery

Not my style, but I feel like this effect is so beautifully done here. I'd like to see IW play with this much more for future dresses.

>>8814234

Anyone got a source on that music print dress in the right side? It's so cut off I can't gather much from it.

>>8814494
>>8814497
So chibi Tenshi is messing up lately?

>>8814432
If AP had done Twinkle Sky like this, I might have wanted to buy it.

>>8814640
It wouldn't surprise me. She's been pretty slow communicating with me for the last couple of months. I think she's just taking on too much, to be honest. AP cranking out prints like there's no tomorrow probably doesn't help

>>8814570
Axes Femme's Melody Cat. A pretty cute and comfy dress. All the little music details made me fall in love. It's still on sale, but only in black now.

>>8814640
I had CT mess up with me recently too.
it seemed to be because of a misunderstanding of language though, so I can't really hold it against her. I should have worded my request better.

>>8814640
She was really short with me when I cancelled an inquiry with her before she even did anything. Normally she's pretty friendly and that was off putting.

>>8814640
She messed up a little while back with the Disney/Angelic Pretty release, she accidentally sent my necklace to someone else. She did buy a new one and sent it to me. Think she has just been so overwhelmed with requests and it's getting to her, I still trust her since she fixes problems quickly.

>>8814432
IW beats AP at their own game? I am honestly okay with this. It looks gorgeous.

>>8814261
>those shoes
I need them.

>>8814675
she's really short latley, I noticed that too.
I think she relly is overwhelmed. i hope she either closes for a few weeks to get rid of that backlash or get help finally.
I love her service, so hopefully she gets it sorted out.

>>8814432
I need this

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>>8814492
The one that looks like a W is Cassiopeia, no idea of the other one

>>8814724
didn't she say that after she came back from her holidays she was going full time as a SS? Seems like her service is getting worse if she's gone full time...

>>8814432
So much want

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>>8814829
>>8814492

The other constellation is Cygnus

>>8814640
I had her forget my SS order completely on a release once, but she went out of her way to find it. I still use her service and she's anyways nice to me. Things happen guys, she's only human.

>>8814854
She is only human, and I think everyone who has said something ITT is being pretty sympathetic to that. However, I think if she's having issues handling it all, she needs to scale it back a bit.

>>8814432
was this in the new Kera?

>>8814244
Is this series up for reserve yet? I'm trying to get one of the items, but I'm not sure if I'm dense or what - the FAQ page for reserves says that they don't take reserves by email, only by shopping cart, but the product page itself says something about emailing them because of the shopping cart not working? And if I did send them an email, what would I even say?

>first time actually trying to order directly
>why can't this be easy
>feel stupid af

>>8814870
The online reserve starts today (16th) but I was able to get my SS to go to the Harajuku early reservation on the 9th. The cart system for baby/aatp is quite easy to use of the site doesn't crash, but you have to be quick

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similar concept to twinkle sky - a bit more of a subtle print, chiffon fabric etc, yet so much classier and less tacky than AP's new dress.

>>8814906
Oh nope sorry, I didn't read the updated reservation rules. They're very confusing regarding the mail order and such, but I think the online reservation where you can use the cart will start at 17:00 on January 20th, the same time as the mail order option

>>8814870
There are shopping cart items and email items. The ones that say "order by email" have to be ordered by email.
The email section says they don't accept email reservations FOR SOLD OUT ITEMS, they do accept email reservations for email items. Just use the same format they have there and email your info.
It's seriously easy, they have all the info right there in the page but nobody reads it

>>8815030
um no, the email items reserve started last week...

>>8815052
Really? I didn't know that, and on the reservation page it says mail order only starts on the 20th
I just know that the Harajuku store had early in-store reservations

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>>8810800
That was my first thought about this dress. It reminds me of that Sakuya constellation dress on Taobao that everyone was shitting themselves over.

I'm so happy everyone hated the new AP release! I love it, looks so silky. Might have been the easiest release I've ever bought from!

If there are still some available during the next sale I'll buy those too

Everytime I see a new 'ugly' release I remember that not everything is for everyone.
>someones gotta love them

>>8815379
I agree anon, I love the silk! I'm not exactly happy everyone hates it, but it made buying it easy. I'm also debating on getting another color, but I'll wait until I get my first one.
I'm guessing once people see it, they'll regret not getting it like a lot of APs understated dresses.

>>8814472
Can I know which color? I'm interested in all the colors except pink, doesn't matter which cut. If you plan on selling it in the future, I'd love to purchase it!

>>8815389
I was considering using FromJapan to buy it because it's the only thing I've used for AP JP but I'm a little worried it will sell out before I can send the first payment. Did you use Tenso? I'm still kinda iffy about it.

>>8815389

I think that's exactly what will happen. Some dresses translate far better in person!

>>8815403
Tenso you dont have to pay them until it gets to their wearhouse, you pay AP directly! I've used Tenso 10+ times from AP now and it's never given me an issue!

>>8815407
oh god my spelling, sorry about that. I'm used to being on mobile with an autocorrect

>>8815403
Definitely tenso anon. Saved so much money by using them instead of an ss.

>>8815412
hi, l am another anon, may l ask, can you use tenso as a ss or for using it you have to purchase through angelic pretty? I don't own a Credit card and I'm not living in the u.s, sorry l'm a little bit confused

>>8815466
Tenso is only a forwarding service; you order via AP using a credit/debit card and have them send it to your Tenso address. Please google this kind of stuff; information is readily available.

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Okay, I have a huge opportunity, and I'm trying not to freak out or make a huge deal of it right now but I'm hella excited.

Long story short:
>family member is important person in a Japanese corperation
>shows my lolita coords to coworkers a lot
>another important person in company becomes interested
>tells someone he knows at TBS (Tokyo Broadcasting Station) about me
>they now asked my family member if I'm willing to be interviewed
>they ask for pics and a voice/video introduction

How do I not fuck this up cgl?

I don't want to be an efame-hungry lolcow. I don't have any YouTube videos or even a tumblr.
I want to make sure I dont come across as some weeby gaijin. I have no idea how to present myself in a nonawkward way.
What sort of things do I talk about? How long should it be?

>>8815518
just do it who cares, it's a great opportunity, just record whatever and show it to a few critical lolita friends if you have any and then someone that knows about tv or media and make sure you're not making a fool of yourself.

>>8815518
Keep it professional and informative! It's not like you've been sucking cocks for this opportunity and have made a mess of yourself in other places to make you look like an efame-hungry lolcow. Being on TV is cool, and you're getting a pretty nice opportunity to share your hobby with others.

>>8815518
That's so random... Just do it, good luck anon.

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>>8814906
>>8815030
>>8815052
>>8815046
>>8815064
Thank you guys! I'm sorry that it sounded like a stupid question, but I read this, and it confused me? It's on their page regarding reservations on the site. I'm still a little confused about it.

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>>8815537
Welp, I sent the email in - I hope I didn't fuck it up by being stupid or something, and everything goes well. Thank you guys for helping! I was going to save up money for a while, and try not to buy any items, but I totally fell in love with the Myriel train as soon as I saw it. Like dream item bad. I always buy secondhand, so I feel like an idiot for asking these pedestrian-level questions.

>pic related, if you haven't seen it

>>8813424
>just to get treated secondclass
i got a regular room and a regular ticket, and while there i made friends, and officially joined a comm after lurking for years. had a blast.

might be different if your friends are paying more and you're not, but for me, who i befriend and hang out with is what makes or breaks a conference. good company can't be bought.

>>8813703
underrated post

I'm really sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I was on taobao and saw a coat by infanta that is being sold for $16.39 it seems too good to be true so I'm not sure weather to buy it or not. They are also selling a atp dress that I also want for the same price. the seller has 4.9 percent good feed back . thank you so much for your help and again I'm really sorry for the dumb question

>>8810752
I don't understand the negativity, how is this different from AP's usual crap? Is it only because the print is less out there?

>>8812184
You can wear any hairstyle with lolita as long as it suits your face and does't look like straw

>>8812248
Why? This looks cute

>>8812541
Measure it yourself?

>>8813450
I think it comes from a general need to label everything now. JM and ETC don't state that they are lolita brands, but neither do they state they are otome. But I think it's pretty telling that ETC and JM are always listed with lolita brands on japanese website's. It looks like otome has kind if died down in jpn too. People prefer to just say they follow x or x brand anyway.

>>8814949
I'm in love with this, it's gorgeous

>>8815518
Any Japanese program is going to spin it as "teehee look at this crazy gaijin likin Japan things".

>>8813450
I think it's pretty weird too. It's obvious when OTT became more popular, people started to crave more casual, easy to wear styles. But I don't understand why casual lolita was ignored and instead people jumped on otome kei and now people are trying to make it into something it's not. Misako's casual style for example is often used as an example of what otome kei is, but in Japan it's seen as a casual lolita style. Not ~real~ lolita but still in the same category. Oldfags will say casual lolita is a t-shirt + poofy skirt, but I think that's why Misako uses the term soft lolita. At least that's what she calls it on her blog. That term didn't get popular tough.

I also think people are so used to lolita having specific style icons, brands and rules, especially in the west, so they try to push this into otome kei as well, ignoring what Japanese people actually say about it.

>>8811443
To all you guls who was looking for this dress - they have restocked it http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/sakuya-lolita-the-whisper-of-stars-gold-stamping-lolita-jsk-sakuya-1

>>8815702
>30 dollar markup on a 70$ dress

I want it but shit.

Does any eurofag here already have their Chocolate Rosette order from the US shop? My order still says they are sourcing from the JP warehouse and it's already been a long time since the release.

>>8815644

Casual lolita wasn't ignored. We've had threads on it that always get derailed by some anons arguing that whatever was posted doesn't meet their headcanon of what lolita is and isn't. Heck, we have a normie lolita thread going on right now with salty anons out to argue in full swing. You're also forgetting that anons are super happy to take any casual lolita pics, post them to the ita thread without providing context, and then nitpick it for fun.

I know cgl is composed of many different anons, I just find it ironic that cgl is now whining about the lack of casual lolita, when it's also the place that shits on casual lolita the most.

>>8815702
Only the navy ugh. Bless you tho anon.
>>8815717
Ngl I want this dress so bad I'd pay that mark up lmao.

>>8815743
I'm in the US, but still waiting too anon. I'm getting dresses I bought from AP Japan before this one, I hate using AP USA as a last resort.

Secrets

>>8815702
>10 cm too big
Will I be swimming in this? Was there any other sizes? It looks like I can't even adjust it, I don't see any back lacing.

Is it frowned upon bringing a male who isn't dressed up in some kind of japanese fashion to a lolita con? Not necessarily the brand tea party because I wouldn't want to take a ticket away from someone who actually wants to be there but just the con in general?

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>>8815644
casual lolita (often abbreviated kajurori) has lived independently of Misako for ages. she is not the arbiter of style in the lolita world.

pic related is a more formal example of casual lolita than what you usually find in japanese publications or coord sites, but it has the words in English so here you go.

>>8815810
I was disappointed when I saw how few there were, but Father Ted reference makes up for everything.

>>8815814
no, there's only one size. I just got mine in the mail, and there's no back lacing.

>>8815807
I asked them and they said there were two batches of the release and the second should've been shipped last week (to their store).

>>8815820
I only mentioned misako because she is so often posted on otome kei blogs even tough she describes that style as casual/"soft" lolita

>>8815865
gotcha

>>8815848
Lucky. What color did you get? I'm dying for the black. I wonder if it'll pop up secondhand.

>>8815848
It looks really cute, but I wish it was adjustable. I'll pass on it. Thanks anon.

>>8815852
I emailed them this past week and they told me they were still waiting.

>>8815744
Because they want "good" casual lolita but don't know how to set standards for a thread and then bitch and whine when there isn't content they like.

>>8815622
It's because you can barely see the print on most colorways. I'm one of the few that likes dreamy planetarium. But this is garbage

>>8815607
It's probably like a deposit or something

>>8815702
I'm looking at their TaoBao and I still see a couple different options in their shop. I'm trying to decipher it but I'm just confused.

http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=522793198718&wp_m=hotsell_goods_-1&wp_pk=shop/index_284816378_&wp_app=weapp&from=inshop

Can you still buy it?

>>8815810
Does anyone have a copy of #10 that was deleted? Was someone being a cunt and got caught?

>>8815976
That shit gets deleted now

>>8815979
>10. removed due to submitter's identity being visible

What time of year does AP usually release yukatas?

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Just got a photo from my sister of the IW C pack I got (had to send it to my home address). So sadly no deer print, but I also wanted to make sure - is it just me or is it less then what I've seen other gulls got? What can I do?

>>8816006
Sorry it's sideways, I'm on my phone.

>>8815946
No I believe those are to finish paying off the preorders.

>>8815820
The pic you posted is classic lolita in the old sense even if the title says otherwise. Most classic lolita outfits pre 2010 were pretty towned down, but that doesn't make them casual.

Casual lolita to me is when the outfit is less expensive looking, for example when it is coorded with cutsews, and oxford shoes or blazers. And if the hair styling and make up is kept on basic level and almost non visbile. Her styling, makeup and the blouse are too elaborate to call the outfit casual.

>>8814640
I have a feeling she's gotten someone else to help with the emails. Half of the emails I get from her are perfectly fine English, and the other half broken as fuck worded. Maybe that's why she started screwing up?

>>8816002
>usually
Spring but it's not a regular thing at all. Only few yukatas have been released 2015, 2011, 2010 and 2007.

>>8816017
Thank you. It seems really random. I'm guessing they just do it when it fits a print.

>>8815819
Why would you even go?
I think if you're a dude in a place like say, rufflecon and not wearing Jfash people will definitely think you're creepy or weird, unless you're someone's dad/bf.

>>8815976
I wonder if v you could get a cached copy

>>8816006
Any chance you're selling that OP and if so, what size

>>8816036
Sorry ESL. I'm a girl and want to bring a guy friend.

>>8816064
What op? The rozen maiden one? Probably. But I don't know the size, or the price. Leave me your mail and I'll try to see what I can do.

>>8814509
How many times are you going to bring this sob story up, I've seen you post this at least 3 times now

>>8814858
Have to agree on this, I've been using her for years without a problem and suddenly mistakes and increasing delays even when contact with days grace. She should scale back or put out that delays are to be expected if she can't keep up with her growing customer base.

>happy it isn't just me
>thought she didn't give a fuck since my orders are less frequent lately

>>8816006

It's a blind LP, I don't think there's much you can do if you feel it's less worthy than other people's boxes. That's the "lucky" part of lucky packs, I'm afraid.

My guess is you seem to have gotten two RM onepieces in your box, it probably bumped up the retail value of the items so they put in more accessories and less dresses to make your box roughly same retail value as other boxes.

>>8815938

Yes, but all the bitching ever does is annoy people, scare away actual content, and discourage people from ever posting photos of casual lolita, in case they end up in ita threads.

>>8814640
Wasn't there a big deal about how her service was suddenly dropping the ball all over the place just a few months ago? Seems like it's only getting worse now.

>>8813773
I've seen it sell from ~$90 all the way up to $200 before, and I paid about $130 for mine, so I think while $120 is the most fair/average price, if you're really dedicated to it I'd be prepared to pay a bit more. There are almost always bidwars on auctions for these.

>>8814060
Damn, if I was after one of these new releases I'd be really annoyed by that.

>>8814157
Agreed with everything in this post.

>>8814432
I wish IW would stop trying so hard to be AP with the last several releases since the unicorn photoshop vomit.

new thread >>8816256

>>8816091
Just make him dress up so he blends in. He doesn't have too look amazing but as a guy, it's not hard to dress slightly formal

>>8816202
Welcome to 4chan. This is not one of the better boards I'm afraid...

>>8816099
Size is on the white label inside the dress, thanks!

>>8816212
Lol, last time one was up, it was relisted heaps of times

>>8816708
For a gold one? I thought there was a brown one that got relisted a bunch (least popular color). What was the price?

>>8816006
anon, if you decide to sell the red dress and bonnet, i'd be super interested! i've been looking for that set in size M with no luck. heck, i'd probably take the other rozen maiden stuff too...

after seeing reveals, i'm so mad i didn't get one of these packs!

>>8816427

lol, I didn't say it was.

>>8816597
Yeah, but again, I don't have the dresses. I'll ask my sister to look.

>>8816818
I didn't even realise the red OP is also RM... I'll see what size it is and will contact you.