so is the print basically a low contrast version of cosmic or what
What is it with AP making their prints as hard to see as possible lately? I love constellations, but I don't know what's going on here. It looks somewhere between print and non-print and it doesn't look good either way.
a lot of the stuff there was up in last years summer sale from what I could see. I think they've finally managed to shove all their Rozen Maiden stuff into Luck Packs as it wasn't haunting the sales page like it has for like the last two years.
There are items from last year's summer sale plus outerwear they restocked for the cold season plus some new/rereleased dresses (pic) with a 30% discount.
their website says this goes on say in like six days- are we not going to be able to get any better views of the material and other colors til then? Im interested in the black, but the 1inX1in star cut-out of it I see
Lolita Desu just sent awarded me 480 reward points... I haven't bought anything from them for months, let alone used the site. I went on the site and it all seems official enough, did anyone else get this?
That's how I feel about the JSK in black. I missed the reservation of that one in taobao. I'm hoping there's in-store pictures of the dresses somewhere, desperate to see if it actually looks any nicer.
I only love either subtle/no print dresses, I love OP's with long sleeves,I love constellations, and that shade of white. It feels like it was meant for me. I'm glad nobody is really super into it.
My gosh, it's primary school art level
>Rufflecon ended months ago but I'm still getting tagged in really bad, unflattering pictures where I'm shiny and have awkward face
Will it never end? I just want to put that weekend of stress, tiredness, and little fun behind me.
What happened to gorgeous, elegant AP prints with detailed, understated prints? Everything I've seen since the start of 2015 has felt like either a clusterfuck or an MS paint clipart collage. Did they hire a new artist who happens to suck?
It does look bad in the stock photos, but I don't think it'll actually look bad in person. I don't own any AP, but I know a lot of people always say that they think some Baby/Aatp dresses look shiny and gross, but I own a few of these pieces and they all have a gorgeous and lush sheen to it which is really pretty. Sometimes I feel people are scared of braking the "no shiny fabrics" rule, but don't know the difference between shiny and a lovely sheen.
Maybe I'm completely wrong, though, and this will look cheap and shiny.
Cosmic looks so cuter to me. Constellations are being placed much more massively over the print, also all of that constellation names, moon and milky way patterns give a really pretty touch. Twinkle Sky looks like cheap taobao copy of Cosmic.
gold print is cute and shit, but you just can't see it on the fucking dress. It just vanishes.
If it wasn't for that I'd consider buying ist, but I'm not buying I print I cannot see. Shadow Dream Carnival was atleast not super small and fragile like this.
Sakuya Lolita dress looks totally alike to me while being three times cheaper. AP really lowered their standarts of prints.
This dress at least has nice detailing and a visible print, too. AP has really disappointed me for the last year or so. The only prints I can think of that I've really liked from them this past year are British Bear and Chocolate Rosette, and CR was a re-release.
Whip Jacquard is cute, but the JSK detailing is fucking weird, and it was disappointing as the year's chocolate print. I like the University series, too, but hot damn, is that cut unflattering on anyone with over an A cup.
It's cosmic on a grid, not that you could tell anyway.
>You can barely see the print on the navy or blue
What was even the point. I'm all for understated prints, Shadow Dream Carnival was mentioned, and I think that worked pretty well in all of the colors. But this is so empty looking, not even the dark colors can save it.
Can someone tell me why everyone hates the cut of the bodice? Out of all the problems I have with this, the cut of the neckline isn't one of them.
I can't get over how shiny the top is for no reason and how dull the bottom and print is. It reminds me of the whole Holly Tea Time scandal where the top just didn't match the bottom and whole dress was a mess.
Did anyone else see this trainreck on lolita humor?
People are calling the OP rude and saying she is offending poor people who can't afford clothes.
For the Anon who wanted to see other lucky packs.
I got my fint pack the other day.
Everything is adorable.
Was definitely needing sweaters.
I also got a Swimmer pack and that was fun to open.
All I'm saying is people would be eating this dress up if it where put out by meta
This may sound like a stupid question, but I'm new to Lolita.
Are sideswept bangs okay? I have a pretty, wavy blonde wig I wanted to wear with my newest coord, but the bangs aren't cut straight across.
It's no problem when they're side swept, but if you're sweeping too-long bangs to the side it just looks sloppy.
There are tutorials on youtube to cut side swept bangs. They're pretty easy to follow. Just go slowly.
Are they cut at all anon? Or are they long so you can cut them to your face size/shape? If they aren't cut at all, please don't just pin them to the side and call it side swept bangs.
I'm a fan of some Bodyline designs, and Bodyline's concept in general. I think it's great that there's an online shop with all the basics you need that restocks frequently and has some solid designs, and I have a deep appreciation for girls who have been lolitas for a long time but still pull Bodyline out of their wardrobe on occasion. And all that being said, I still think that picture is hilarious.
This is a shitty post but not for making fun of poorfags (which it's not in my opinion)
It's a shitty post just because it's putting down people who wear bodyline. Now BL definitely doesn't hold up to brand standards, but I do own a couple bodyline pieces that I really love.
This would still be a shitty thing if the post were "my dog sees BTSSB as a rag to lie on"
But it happens to be slightly more offensive to people because it makes her seem like an elitist bitch.
"Bodyline is shit and you're shit if you wear it" is the general vibe from the post.
I see what she meant by the post, but she looks like a cunt for posting it
All these anons telling you to trim anyway and to just follow tutorials. Fucking cgl.
Get a razor comb first. Cutting wig fibers with a pair of hair clippers is a huge pain in the ass. I tried it thinking it'd be fine and they came out all choppy. Razor combs are perfect for this however. And they're actually easy to use.
Look up ardas razor comb tutorial video, it's not even that long cause it's so simple to learn.
I don't think it's meant to put down anyone. It seems like it's just meant to joke around about the whole "elitist bitch who hates on Bodyline" stereotype.
I don't think she really looks like a cunt, more like a tryhard.
To me, classic can be divided into oldschool classic, like MM and everything rose gobelin (Baby made one I really like, IW and meta had very, very similar prints), and modern classic, of which I would think IW strahov library and union jack jsk's would be most iconic
they had a genuine reason to say that though. the post before they are replying to is very tumblr SJW tier. What's more annoying than "gb2tumblr" posts are the defensive "stop saying that!~" posts after them.
What's the deal with AP USA's shipping? I waited for them to get my lucky pack from Japan and they emailed me that they had my order and then sent me my order tracking, but it's been at creating a label since Monday. When will I get this package?
Pretty sure Anon is talking about this version. Compared to the others its kinda meh.
the way the bottom of the bodice just hangs off as if on a shelf, and how nothing ties the top to the bottom, it's really pathetic that AP put this out.
All this money coming and resources at their dispense and they charge top dollar for this and Twinkle Sky.
Regarding IW luckypacks, does the Spring pack tend to have more fall/winter release items in it? Or which LP would be best if I'm aiming to get leftovers from FW collections? The New Years packs seem to be filled largely with pastel spring/summer items but I seem to recall the last set of LP's also had mostly pastel items. Do they just not put darker pieces in LP's because they sell better on normal Sales?
I don't know what IW is thinking with this flash sale format... It's quite a turnoff. I know they have trouble keeping up with orders during popular releases/sales but this just means they'll sell less altogether.
Union Jack is just a concept rehash of Grazia, so I would think Grazia which is much more popular anyway would be much more iconic.
Seconding Lotta as well.
You can tell by the volume and way it bulges out because they're untrimmed as to whether they're fake or not, though. Usually natural sideswept bangs have some roots showing because they're thinner.
MM perfume bottle, I.W Stained glass rose and maybe JetJ's library print?
The only ones I know of that are painting prints and highly sort after are more gothic styling. I think they tend to be highly sort after as the reservation period was either very short or people couldn't afford the reservation price and wait for it to appear on the secondhand market.
>I don't know what IW is thinking with this flash sale format... It's quite a turnoff. I know they have trouble keeping up with orders during popular releases/sales but this just means they'll sell less altogether.
I know some people have stopped trying to order form them during sales because of their disorganized nature and the minimal chance that you'll actually get what you order...so I don't really think they're losing any more business this way than they already have. At least they're making an effort to change (...though why not just invest in a better website? That's my question.)
>friends talking about next year's Rufflecon already
>the club rooms might already be gone?
>probably won't get VIP tickets
Hate to be a bitch to my friends, but I just want to tell them that I'm not traveling states away to blow a huge chunk of money just to get treated secondclass. Hope it goes well for them, though.
Why do westerners try to make otome and Lolita into completely separate styles? They're both called Lolita in Japan, coords that would be called otome here are called Lolita there, what happened with that?
Personally I'd still rather try at my own convenience than to have to set an alarm for a clearance sale and still maybe not get anything... For a hyped up new release ok, but not the sale bin.
If I remember correctly the issue is less the website and more that they don't have enough staff to handle all the orders. Apparently they've had an open job listing for an international sales handler for ages now but they still haven't been able to find someone. Small employee pool but not a very enticing job (have to speak/write english fluently, presumably interested in lolita, but very low pay).
It's driving me mad, I don't think I could even buy something from the sale right now because my bank balance is really low, but I just want to look at the stock and confirm it with my own eyes.
Not window shopping is suffering.
Question everyone, so my bf got me this skirt brand new with tags which I am happy about but the down side, it's size 1 and it's a bit too small for me. Do you guys think someone will be willing to trade for this skirt in size 1 for a bigger size in like new or new condition? I never done trades before do idk if people are willing to trade sizes of the same skirts.
No. Back in the day, someone on egl said they called up either ETC or JM and got told "we aren't a lolita brand, we're an otome brand". Even more telling, the two styles are rarely on the same floors in their shopping malls, you can usually find all the lolita brands on one floor and then the otome brands will be on a different floor.
There's a lot of difference anyway. cgl only ever seems to have eyes for the printed dresses, but pic here is a MILK outfit for 2015, straight out of their lookbook. I've seen normie-looking shorts, pencil skirts, sheath dresses and all sorts of silhouttes from most otome brands, it's just not posted on cgl. I think cgl cherry-picks the most lolita-looking outfits they like, and then confuses itself on why lolita and otome looks so much alike.
Pricing thread is closed.
How much can I expect to pay for pic related in used condition?
Do any of you have a copy of the JetJ makeup book? I'm thinking about getting a copy but I'm wondering about what the content is like.
Also, recommendations for a petticoat that travels well? I travel a lot and mine always die so fast, I'm tired of having to replace them so often.
I don't remember all the things that were up for sale. It was pretty much like their last sale though which means they had some leftover items that aren't currently in store anymore like the alice mushroom JSK.
However they also offered upcoming releases at a 20% discount. I definitely remember the flower print underbust JSK and the tartan OP.
I think this is unpredictable. There is a slightly higher chance to get a chiffon bolero in an autumn pack and a warm jacket in a spring pack, but regarding colors you cannot really say, it depends on what they have left after sales. I suggest you to look on their flash sale they are having right now. The items that are in stock in all colors will definitely appear in the next lucky packs.
I hope IW does a proper release of this dress, I actually like this simpler cut much more than the original (it's just too fancy for my daily style). Was sad when I heard they were currently lucky pack only.
I thought of making screenshots, but considering their website's layout and the number of items in the sale you need to make, like, dozens of screenshots. I'm not capable of this at 5 am.
I doubt they would, this print was not popular in the first release. It goes for pretty cheap secondhand now, I bought mine for under 10000 yen. Though I don't understand why, this print is so pretty.
It does mean something though, because Japanese magazines have very specific demographics. Punk and lolita can be grouped under the Harajuku umbrella that Kera caters to while So-en is connected to Bunka. Different types of fans entirely.
Iconic doesn't mean sought after, there are lots of sought after dresses.
It means that the dress is a prime example for the classic style or that the dress influenced the style a lot (e.g. it did set a new trend). Also that when you think of classic lolita you think of that specific dress. I think these >>8812834 are good examples. And also IW's Grazia Crown, it started a trend for crown prints and the elizabethan OTT styling. Iconic dresses for JetJ would be amour damants (it started the painting print fad with JetJ) and maybe la fee d'une fleur as it's such an exquisite and luxurious classic design and other brands have yet to top it. It's a prime example for high quality pieces in classic lolita. When I think of Victorian Maiden, I think of their Classical Doll OP, so that's another iconic dress for me.
While yes you could, the chances that you will is slim. The more specific you are in what you want to trade, the less likely it will happen. You are better off finding if you can see if anyone will sell the skirt you want.
Anyone going for Magic Princess? I hope its not too much of a blood bath and that they announce more colors/cuts. I think it'd look good in lavender.
Beautiful print. I don't like the people, but the way everything else is set out makes it alright, and I don't feel like the crosses are "too much"
Does anyone here have a non-blurry copy of melty sky from the latest KERA?
I love how this print, especially the blue version, looks from far away. But, I wish they hadn't included the music notes on the top and the choir children. To be honest, they cheapen the look of the print.
Not a better picture of the JSK sadly, but the OP.
I love the color! I'm so happy AP does more of the dark blue colorways instead of flat out navy. Will definitly going for the JSK in that color.
I want this on my body so bad
There was a miscommunication with my SS for "The Grace" reservation and sadly she got me the wrong JSK which I do not plan to keep.
This hasn't happened to me before and I don't know what to do about it.
which ss did you use? i've had trouble with a specific one...
>put in order with SS
>one item is in stock but other is going rereleased in 1 month
>buys item and keeps it there to combine shipping
>rerelease happens, gets item
>sends me package
>item that was sitting around for a month is completely wrong cut, color everything
how did you not see this for a month.png
>oh sorry, anon i didn't check, it's long sold out now, you can send it back and i'll refund you
i only use big professional SS from now on, even if they're more costly.
I think its best to wait and see how things get resolved if they do... But unless they do this is the last time I'll be using her SS.
BTW the SS I'm talking about is not a group of people just a single person, I'm sorry you didn't get what you asked but Im glad you got a refund, I might notbe so lucky.
The bordeaux colorway was still in stock in all sizes when I took a look at the sale on Thursday; bordeaux is usually one of the less popular colorways when it comes to IW's white collared OPs so you probably have a good chance to get it.
I regret making the secret publicising it. I felt like I had to to point out how AP needs to step up, that shit shouldn't fly just because it's brand and to save gulls who were thinking about getting Cosmic some cash etc. I became broke suddenly when my parents fucked off and I had a teenage boy to feed as well as an unpaid internship I needed bus fare to get to, so I never got to reserve one for myself.
>That fabric overlay with the embroidery
Not my style, but I feel like this effect is so beautifully done here. I'd like to see IW play with this much more for future dresses.
If AP had done Twinkle Sky like this, I might have wanted to buy it.
It wouldn't surprise me. She's been pretty slow communicating with me for the last couple of months. I think she's just taking on too much, to be honest. AP cranking out prints like there's no tomorrow probably doesn't help
I had CT mess up with me recently too.
it seemed to be because of a misunderstanding of language though, so I can't really hold it against her. I should have worded my request better.
She messed up a little while back with the Disney/Angelic Pretty release, she accidentally sent my necklace to someone else. She did buy a new one and sent it to me. Think she has just been so overwhelmed with requests and it's getting to her, I still trust her since she fixes problems quickly.
she's really short latley, I noticed that too.
I think she relly is overwhelmed. i hope she either closes for a few weeks to get rid of that backlash or get help finally.
I love her service, so hopefully she gets it sorted out.
The one that looks like a W is Cassiopeia, no idea of the other one
I had her forget my SS order completely on a release once, but she went out of her way to find it. I still use her service and she's anyways nice to me. Things happen guys, she's only human.
She is only human, and I think everyone who has said something ITT is being pretty sympathetic to that. However, I think if she's having issues handling it all, she needs to scale it back a bit.
Is this series up for reserve yet? I'm trying to get one of the items, but I'm not sure if I'm dense or what - the FAQ page for reserves says that they don't take reserves by email, only by shopping cart, but the product page itself says something about emailing them because of the shopping cart not working? And if I did send them an email, what would I even say?
>first time actually trying to order directly
>why can't this be easy
>feel stupid af
The online reserve starts today (16th) but I was able to get my SS to go to the Harajuku early reservation on the 9th. The cart system for baby/aatp is quite easy to use of the site doesn't crash, but you have to be quick
similar concept to twinkle sky - a bit more of a subtle print, chiffon fabric etc, yet so much classier and less tacky than AP's new dress.
Oh nope sorry, I didn't read the updated reservation rules. They're very confusing regarding the mail order and such, but I think the online reservation where you can use the cart will start at 17:00 on January 20th, the same time as the mail order option
There are shopping cart items and email items. The ones that say "order by email" have to be ordered by email.
The email section says they don't accept email reservations FOR SOLD OUT ITEMS, they do accept email reservations for email items. Just use the same format they have there and email your info.
It's seriously easy, they have all the info right there in the page but nobody reads it
Really? I didn't know that, and on the reservation page it says mail order only starts on the 20th
I just know that the Harajuku store had early in-store reservations
I'm so happy everyone hated the new AP release! I love it, looks so silky. Might have been the easiest release I've ever bought from!
If there are still some available during the next sale I'll buy those too
Everytime I see a new 'ugly' release I remember that not everything is for everyone.
>someones gotta love them
I agree anon, I love the silk! I'm not exactly happy everyone hates it, but it made buying it easy. I'm also debating on getting another color, but I'll wait until I get my first one.
I'm guessing once people see it, they'll regret not getting it like a lot of APs understated dresses.
I was considering using FromJapan to buy it because it's the only thing I've used for AP JP but I'm a little worried it will sell out before I can send the first payment. Did you use Tenso? I'm still kinda iffy about it.
hi, l am another anon, may l ask, can you use tenso as a ss or for using it you have to purchase through angelic pretty? I don't own a Credit card and I'm not living in the u.s, sorry l'm a little bit confused
Tenso is only a forwarding service; you order via AP using a credit/debit card and have them send it to your Tenso address. Please google this kind of stuff; information is readily available.
Okay, I have a huge opportunity, and I'm trying not to freak out or make a huge deal of it right now but I'm hella excited.
Long story short:
>family member is important person in a Japanese corperation
>shows my lolita coords to coworkers a lot
>another important person in company becomes interested
>tells someone he knows at TBS (Tokyo Broadcasting Station) about me
>they now asked my family member if I'm willing to be interviewed
>they ask for pics and a voice/video introduction
How do I not fuck this up cgl?
I don't want to be an efame-hungry lolcow. I don't have any YouTube videos or even a tumblr.
I want to make sure I dont come across as some weeby gaijin. I have no idea how to present myself in a nonawkward way.
What sort of things do I talk about? How long should it be?
just do it who cares, it's a great opportunity, just record whatever and show it to a few critical lolita friends if you have any and then someone that knows about tv or media and make sure you're not making a fool of yourself.
Keep it professional and informative! It's not like you've been sucking cocks for this opportunity and have made a mess of yourself in other places to make you look like an efame-hungry lolcow. Being on TV is cool, and you're getting a pretty nice opportunity to share your hobby with others.
Welp, I sent the email in - I hope I didn't fuck it up by being stupid or something, and everything goes well. Thank you guys for helping! I was going to save up money for a while, and try not to buy any items, but I totally fell in love with the Myriel train as soon as I saw it. Like dream item bad. I always buy secondhand, so I feel like an idiot for asking these pedestrian-level questions.
>pic related, if you haven't seen it
>just to get treated secondclass
i got a regular room and a regular ticket, and while there i made friends, and officially joined a comm after lurking for years. had a blast.
might be different if your friends are paying more and you're not, but for me, who i befriend and hang out with is what makes or breaks a conference. good company can't be bought.
I'm really sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but I was on taobao and saw a coat by infanta that is being sold for $16.39 it seems too good to be true so I'm not sure weather to buy it or not. They are also selling a atp dress that I also want for the same price. the seller has 4.9 percent good feed back . thank you so much for your help and again I'm really sorry for the dumb question
I think it comes from a general need to label everything now. JM and ETC don't state that they are lolita brands, but neither do they state they are otome. But I think it's pretty telling that ETC and JM are always listed with lolita brands on japanese website's. It looks like otome has kind if died down in jpn too. People prefer to just say they follow x or x brand anyway.
I think it's pretty weird too. It's obvious when OTT became more popular, people started to crave more casual, easy to wear styles. But I don't understand why casual lolita was ignored and instead people jumped on otome kei and now people are trying to make it into something it's not. Misako's casual style for example is often used as an example of what otome kei is, but in Japan it's seen as a casual lolita style. Not ~real~ lolita but still in the same category. Oldfags will say casual lolita is a t-shirt + poofy skirt, but I think that's why Misako uses the term soft lolita. At least that's what she calls it on her blog. That term didn't get popular tough.
I also think people are so used to lolita having specific style icons, brands and rules, especially in the west, so they try to push this into otome kei as well, ignoring what Japanese people actually say about it.
Does any eurofag here already have their Chocolate Rosette order from the US shop? My order still says they are sourcing from the JP warehouse and it's already been a long time since the release.
Casual lolita wasn't ignored. We've had threads on it that always get derailed by some anons arguing that whatever was posted doesn't meet their headcanon of what lolita is and isn't. Heck, we have a normie lolita thread going on right now with salty anons out to argue in full swing. You're also forgetting that anons are super happy to take any casual lolita pics, post them to the ita thread without providing context, and then nitpick it for fun.
I know cgl is composed of many different anons, I just find it ironic that cgl is now whining about the lack of casual lolita, when it's also the place that shits on casual lolita the most.
Is it frowned upon bringing a male who isn't dressed up in some kind of japanese fashion to a lolita con? Not necessarily the brand tea party because I wouldn't want to take a ticket away from someone who actually wants to be there but just the con in general?
casual lolita (often abbreviated kajurori) has lived independently of Misako for ages. she is not the arbiter of style in the lolita world.
pic related is a more formal example of casual lolita than what you usually find in japanese publications or coord sites, but it has the words in English so here you go.
I'm looking at their TaoBao and I still see a couple different options in their shop. I'm trying to decipher it but I'm just confused.
Can you still buy it?
Just got a photo from my sister of the IW C pack I got (had to send it to my home address). So sadly no deer print, but I also wanted to make sure - is it just me or is it less then what I've seen other gulls got? What can I do?
The pic you posted is classic lolita in the old sense even if the title says otherwise. Most classic lolita outfits pre 2010 were pretty towned down, but that doesn't make them casual.
Casual lolita to me is when the outfit is less expensive looking, for example when it is coorded with cutsews, and oxford shoes or blazers. And if the hair styling and make up is kept on basic level and almost non visbile. Her styling, makeup and the blouse are too elaborate to call the outfit casual.
I have a feeling she's gotten someone else to help with the emails. Half of the emails I get from her are perfectly fine English, and the other half broken as fuck worded. Maybe that's why she started screwing up?
Why would you even go?
I think if you're a dude in a place like say, rufflecon and not wearing Jfash people will definitely think you're creepy or weird, unless you're someone's dad/bf.
Have to agree on this, I've been using her for years without a problem and suddenly mistakes and increasing delays even when contact with days grace. She should scale back or put out that delays are to be expected if she can't keep up with her growing customer base.
>happy it isn't just me
>thought she didn't give a fuck since my orders are less frequent lately
It's a blind LP, I don't think there's much you can do if you feel it's less worthy than other people's boxes. That's the "lucky" part of lucky packs, I'm afraid.
My guess is you seem to have gotten two RM onepieces in your box, it probably bumped up the retail value of the items so they put in more accessories and less dresses to make your box roughly same retail value as other boxes.
I've seen it sell from ~$90 all the way up to $200 before, and I paid about $130 for mine, so I think while $120 is the most fair/average price, if you're really dedicated to it I'd be prepared to pay a bit more. There are almost always bidwars on auctions for these.
Damn, if I was after one of these new releases I'd be really annoyed by that.
Agreed with everything in this post.
I wish IW would stop trying so hard to be AP with the last several releases since the unicorn photoshop vomit.
anon, if you decide to sell the red dress and bonnet, i'd be super interested! i've been looking for that set in size M with no luck. heck, i'd probably take the other rozen maiden stuff too...
after seeing reveals, i'm so mad i didn't get one of these packs!