Peeking bloomers?

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Can we make this a "pushing/revisiting theLolita guidelines" thread? Such as jsks that look good without blouses?

I guess for you, OP I wouldn't be sure what to say without a reference photo that more accurately depicts what you are going for. You say its not old school but that's all I'm getting.

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>>8795524
>I read online that they're ruffly at the bottom so you can peek them out to add detail- is that true?
It's true but only when it's done right. Ones like in pic related don't look good in my opinion because tulle lace looks too thin (torchon, eyelet, and good quality raschel are my personal favorites); it looks cheap compared to the OP pic.

>>8795716
I await the day JSKs will be accepted without blouses. Not all work with it, but a lot look really cute without a blouse.

>>8795716
>I wouldn't be sure what to say without a reference photo that more accurately depicts what you are going for.
I haven't put together a photo yet, but I will try to describe it as best as I can:
The dress isn't oldschool, but it has oldshool inspo- the lace and sleeves are reminiscent of it. The shoes will be something that was popular back then- I'm debating between RHS or the classic clunky heel. I will also have the knee high ruffly socks that used to be popular, and a rectangle headdress. The dress itself will be keeping the outfit from being oldschool but it's meant to remind people of that era.

>>8795769
I was planning on getting some similar to OP pic. I agree that those look too thin!

>>8795524
I love a lot of old school trends so I think you could definitely make it work. People that are too obsessed with da rulez need to calm their tits and be open while still keeping a critical eye. Of course some rules need to stay to keep it lolita, old school lolita is still lolita so. No issues with me.

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>>8795781
I have this but I don't know if it really looks good without a blouse. A lot of okay no blouse looks would look so much cleaner with a blouse imo

>>8797711
I think it looks fine in the stock picture but I guess it depends on how it fits you personally and how you coord it; dresses that look flattering on IW's models don't necessarily look the same on everyone else, after all, and some JSKs look a bit boring without the added details of a blouse or a bolero.

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>>8797725
It also depends on the JSK itself as many with classic cuts look worse with a blouse, pic related.

>>8797685
They aren't rules anyways rather than guidelines and nobody in Japan gives a fuck about them (besides the petticoat part), not even brands.

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>>8795716
I think the Gingham Rose Ribbon JSK looks really cute without a blouse, especially with the straps down a little. My shoulders are pretty broad so it looks bad with a blouse due to the nature of the straps but I don't have the courage to wear it like that in public and put a cardigan over it instead.

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>>8795716
In truth, there are some jsks that I think would look just too frumpy with a blouse

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>>8798096
And I can never figure out what to do with Juliette et Justine necklines.

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I think jsks with detachable collars look just fine without a blouse too.

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>>8798133

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>>8798133
>>8798135
Nightmare Rising's collar isn't detachable but I agree, JSKs that have their own collars look perfectly fine without a blouse.

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>>8795716
I was under the impression JSKs with this type of collar were intended to be worn without blouses. I own pic related and it looks really cute without a blouse, or with a cardigan.

>>8798151
Well the chest thing is, that's what I meant.

>>8798110
I think this particular jsk looks great without a blouse, you could probably work a fairly simple high neck one into it, but that would pretty much be for the sake of perceived rules in my opinion, rather than for any aesthetic ideal. Sometimes, honestly no blouse is ok - there's a difference between clueless newbies that do it and those accustomed to the fashion that understand the guidelines but also be stylin'.

>>8798133
>>8798135
>>8798151
>>8798158

dresses like this are sometimes referred to as 'sun dresses' in glorious nippon for what it's worth, and it's generally considered they're perfectly fine blouse-less, particularly in hot weather.

>>8798358
actually it's considered rude in general japanese fashion to reveal shoulders(armpits). people will come up to you and ask if you're 'cold' to try to get you to cover it up.

>>8798365
I've been to Japan 10+ times and that has never happened to me ever.

>>8798365
that only applies to japanese

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>>8798158
That's what I thought too but then I see people pull pic related and it makes me question everything

>>8802807
Fashion isn't a precise science, it doesn't have concrete rules (despite what some people might think and tell you). I'm not a huge fan of this specific blouse in this coord, personally, but it's possible that another blouse could look good with this JSK (though it would look perfectly fine worn on its own).

>>8798365
It depends on the TPO, but most of the time they ask you if you're cold is to make fun of you.