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New Larme thread
Anyone have the latest episode issue?
Aside from that, any and all Larme but winter pics especially appreciated.
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Also I want to address anon's concern about Risa because I genuinely like the girl and I haven't seen her irl like this anon
>>>8773709 (You)
>That's a very old pic. I saw her irl and she's very skinny, her face was looking a little gaunt too. But she's still stunning, her makeup was on point. I follow her since 2011 and it's crazy how her face changed.
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>>8790291*Furisode not episode, spell check sabotage.
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>>8790293
This is what my face and cheeks look like right now... Gives me inspiration to lose some weight and be as gorgeous as Risa is at the moment
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>>8790621
Her weight is fine there though, so if you look like that and feel like you need to lose weight then maybe you have issues? No offence but she looks really normal there. As far as models go I mean.
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I have a few shitty phone images of Larme 19, I can scan properly when I'm back from visiting family

>>8790630
I'm fine, I just don't like being so chubby in the face, it makes my mouth look tiny
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>>8790715
Cupid's bow mouth? Sounds cute. Unpopular opinion but I absolutely love Amo. More than Risa even (I don't know why I just do) I dont care. she has the perfect cupid bow mouth.
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>>8790782
Is Amo the one who has a kid and a super normie clothing line, or is there another Amo?
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>>8790782
Too bad she got knocked up.
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>>8790782
I think Risa is just the trend of the moment, like most models. I can't imagine "I love Amo" ever being an unpopular opinion a few years ago but I guess she's fallen off in terms of relevance since getting married and everything.
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>>8790793
Yeeup she got knocked up
>>8790794
I just really liked Amo as an aesthetic and that was her job, she was a model and she did it well. I think Risa is perfect for Larme but I just really found Amo to be the perfect playful end of Risa, the silly little girl who would do things Risa was too prim to do. I wish Amo all the best, Risa is perfect I just really wish Amo the the best and she was who brought me into larme.
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>>8790801
Amo would still be popular if she didn't pop out a kid. She fucked up her career. But well maybe she was already getting too old anyway.
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.>>8790802
She was but whatever the case, Risa is similar in age I don't think that's what put her out of the game. She posts regularly on her Wear account. She seems happy. I genuinely think Amo is a mother type.
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>>8790802
>This is how some people genuinely view life.

I can't imagine that. Wasting your life on a career with a finite lifespan and eventually aging and dying alone as a result of this need for temporary popularity (directly referencing your wording.)

If having a family is what she wanted and what is making her happy, that's the best life anyone can really ask for.
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>>8790976
Then we can stop talking about her now irrelevant ass.

Bring on the age of Risa and Monaca.
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>>8790977
man yall are weird about models
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>>8790978
creepily weird...
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>>8790291
I thought we were all waiting for the OP or FAQ or whatever to get updated.... now there's no FAQ whatsoever?

Old Thread >>8738197

FAQ/Brands/Models List (WIP):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rG733dzImczHXH7jMJQ-FhkD2awZkYWtRfZUnDSFV70/edit#gid=0

Partial Scans List:
http://pastebin.com/gffZh8UL

Video about Larme Magazine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPx5HuTSiHQ
(Watch this if you're new to Larme. Yes we know her voice is annoying.)

>>8790715
Thanks anon. Notice anything new in particular about the issue's styling or does it just feel like a winter issue?
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Not previous anon but owner of larme-kei tumblr here. Gonna dump some Larme 19 scans here.
Let's go!
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>>8791134
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>>8791091
I feel like there are a handful of pages that are a lot more just like western fashion, but the rest is just a winter issue, there's also a best of 2015 cosmetics items review
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Can I ask a little of a dumb question here? I've not much idea of larme, except it being cute but not too cute and more mature girly style. So my question regards OTT larme (aka swankiss): what's the difference between ott larme kei and cult party kei? They look 100% the same to me
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>>8791157
There is no OTT larme, it's just Swankiss. They're their own brand and have there own style, but some items happen to be suitable for larme.
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>>8791159
*their own style (sorry)
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>>8791159
Oh really? Didn't know that! I thought swankiss is just larme but an OTT form of it (someone mentioned it somewhere, forgot where). So swankiss IS sth like cult party kei but parts of their collection can be used for larme.

Next question: are there any good makeup tutorials for larme or keywords to search for good makeup closeups?
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>>8790802
>Amo would still be popular if she didn't pop out a kid. She fucked up her career. But well maybe she was already getting too old anyway.
Nah, the reason why she suddenly wanted to get pregnant was because of all the japanese truth blogs about her, calling her Japan's Dakota so she used it as coverup reason to disappear.
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>>8791180
Amo is fucking gorgeous in person. When she got married I think a lot of her husband's fans got jealous. A baby after marriage is a pretty normal progression
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>>8791180
Wait, what is Amo's drama? Calling her Japan's Dakota is pretty extreme.
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In the master list, could we add more info on which things work for larme and which don't and why, like the pic of the shoes on the FAQ page?
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Larme isn't really a fashion, why is there a thread for it?
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>>8791354
This! Haha it's literally just older girls/women dressing up and doing makeup in a 'cute' (but basic af) way
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>>8791355
Contribute or get out, if you don't like what the thread is about why are you here?
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>>8791275
There is no drama. She's just a little dumb that's all. I agree with the other anon, getting a kid at 20 something was a big mistake and that guy completely alienated her. She was a big deal back in the day, i really enjoyed her collaborations with Ayamo, Katie, Zipper...etc Well, i hope she's enjoying her life now.
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>>8791371
I didn't say that I don't like it. I just can't see how it's a fashion style for itself. Japanese girls dress like this for years now and it only recently transformed into somewhat of a trend.

But Ipd like you to explain to me in what way you think or know why it is/has to be seen as a fashion style on it's own. Thank you
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I was just googling amo to see if she was still modeling and i found this. Maybe the pregnancy fucked with her hard.
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>>8791386
It hurts... The outfits of the other girls are pretty nice though.
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>>8791382
see >>8791091
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>>8791392
Her face looks more like she is on heavy meds. Otherwise a face doesn't get that bloated(?)
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>>8791406
I read it and don't get it. Especially the makeup point. What is the main point of larme makeup? Does it even have a main point?

And the clothes are as stated, mostly casual. So all in all it's just as I said before, girls wearing 'cute' clothes as if theylve never done that before
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>>8791413
dude just watch the video holy shit
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>>8791420
I watched that goddamn video abot three times.

But hey, so even people like you who act like they know about larme can't explain or give their own proper examples of what this style is about. Great.

I just want an explanation. And the one above in form of an excel tablet is...ugh...not what I was searchin'for. Since that's just what I also knew before.

I want to know the SPECIAL points of the makeup like they exist in gyaru. If it is that important for the style why not explaining the main point of it? Like the op of that did about the clothes? Just tell me what's important in that style thanks
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>>8791413
Even if it is just cute clothes why the salt? Cute clothes is still fashion though. God not everything has to be so strictly defined to qualify as a "legit" fashion.
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>>8791432
I'm not salty. I just think if you see yourself as part of a fashion trend you can explain it's main points to others. And I just asked for the main points of this fashion, especially the makeup, because I was searching for larme on tumblr, google, youtube etc but I don't really see a main point for the makeup even though it's stated to be very important for this style. The only thing similar is the abuse of blush, but that kind be it or is it? Just explain please that'd be nice. Since actually I want to know more about larme
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>>8791426
OK then special points:

Heavy blush under the eye
Bright red or pink lips
Eye makeup seems to be fairly neutral, but still very "dolly"
Dark hair in messy, non-perfect styles, many models have slightly lighter brown hair than their natural shade, but still dark
Fringes or bangs or "forelocks" (although there are many hairstyles in the magazine that skip this but still look good, if for whatever reason you can't have them)
Dusty colours rather than bright pastels
Cherry, heart and lip motifs
Combination of "light" and "heavy" items
Something sad or dark to "mature" the look rather than it being super cutesy like other jfashions

Specifics regarding clothing is hard to talk about because you can't really judge a single item on whether it is considered "larme" or not, it has to be about how it works with the whole outfit. I guess there are some things that come up a lot (heart cut out turtlenecks, pom poms, corset lacing, pencil skirts etc.) but there isn't a particular uniform like in lolita. There are also some things that you wouldn't immediately consider appropriate that can still work, and the magazine has used trends in other fashions and made them work for the aesthetic.

Honestly I would recommend just buying some magazines because I didn't get larme until I'd actually read a couple, and scans aren't really the same. There's no real way to explain it it's literally just the ~feeling~ of the coords and the photoshoots.

If anyone else wants to correct me on anything please do
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>>8791457
Thank you SOO much! That's all what I asked for.

Your description explains the style so well. Especially the makeup part.

Do larme girls wear fake lashes on an everyday basis or can they be let out?
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>>8791408
I was thinking the same thing. That or alcohol/drugs.
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>>8791524
Cortisone or psychotropics can have the same effects. It doesn't really look like 'it's her fault' to look like that. So I'd prefer to not make further assumptions without any proves for it
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>>8791457
>dark hair
Because most of the models are Japanese, numb nuts. And even when they're westerners brown and black hair are the most common hair colors in the world. If a blonde girl wants to wear larme I'm sure that it would be fine for her to do so without needing to change her hair.
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>>8791432
>>8791420
Watching a video doesn't change the fact it's not a fashion style
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>>8791386
Maybe bulimic?
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>>8791466
Many of the models don't, I think you'll be ok
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>>8791544
go away
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Anybody know when the reveal will happen for Swankiss' LP Angel bag?
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>>8791540
I don't think blonde hair looks right in larme unless it's closer to brown. Saramari pulls of the look really well but her hair really lets the whole look down imo. I can't stand dyed blonde hair that isn't toned.
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>>8791540
>>8791600
I've never seen blonde hair done well in Larme
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>>8791606
Sorry for having natural blomde hair and not being willed to ruin it with dark colors(also I look like shit with dark hair, tried it with wigs, it just doesn't fit my facial features). Anyway the larme hair colors are pretty natural aka dark brown, brown, black. So someone who's natural blonde will be fine, because for them it's their natural color
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>>8791386
Holy shit is that definitely her?
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>>8791625
then hide the thread dude its not that hard
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>>8791636
No stop shitting up the board with irrelevant made up fashion styles. Look I'm wearing wearing jeans and a sweater and coat I'm winter kei lol that's basically what larme is. It's spam and this thread is garbage
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>>8791624
I agree, natural blonde would probably look fine, I've just never seen it
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>>8791578
Possibly this?
http://matome.naver.jp/odai/2142025359904077801
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Stop feeding the trolls, guys. If someone really doesn't believe larme is a fashion then let them have a different opinion because it won't affect you. They're just clogging up our thread.

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>>8791600
Pic related has the right look with a medium brown colour, and I think if she was blonde it would still be fine. What I would nitpick about saramari is that her eye makeup isn't "soft" enough, because she uses black instead of brown. Could be a result of her being an ex-gyaru(?).

I think dark colours are just what we're used to seeing in Larme, but any natural, soft hair colour could be incorporated.

>>8791161
Check out the old thread in >>8791091 and Risa Nakamura's tutorial in the video for an idea of what Larme makeup is like.
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>>8791524
She has that bloat look Lindsay Lohan have.
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>>8791636
Just don't respond.

>>8791578
Anyone here bought SwanKiss? I went to their corner at Shibuya109 and a lot of items looked kinda cheap, i was a little disappointed. There was a cute coat but it was the most expensive item. I have to say the sellers were adorable.
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>>8791625
>cosplay and lolita
>not an autistic weeaboo
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>>8791413
I don't get it either. Its cute and I like it, but probably wouldn't wear it as it reminds me too much of fast fashion and being sexy.
I'm not sure why it's caught on here so much?
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>>8791805
I think a lot of them weeb girls think larme = swankiss = kawaii uguuu desu
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>>8791540
dark hair IS an aspect of larme, especially when so many more 'out there' Japanese fashions put a lot of emphasis on hair dying, primping and lightening. Larme often talks about 'dark hair looks', it's part of their image.

Of course we know that Japanese people haven naturally dark hair and most of the world as a whole, that really is offering nothing to the thread and not even the stupidest people of /cgl/ need that pointing out.
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what the hell happened to this thread man, all the other larme threads have been really informative with lots of relevant pictures. sadly I think we needed that sticky back as it covered so many questions that come up over and over again, there were some good suggestions for updating it in the previous thread as well.

Anyway, more pics.
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>>8791919
I'm the original sticky maker. I'm sorry, I was too busy over the holidays to remake the thread and so I guess this all happened? I also made the brands list which needs a major overhaul. I never posted it but I was also working on an FAQ on a Google doc, since I don't think it works as well on the spreadsheet.

What would you guys most want to see in the FAQ? Obviously an explanation of the style and some examples, and I remember that people wanted to compile tips from the threads like Larme hair styles for black hair, etc.
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>>8791386
This is not a great picture of her admittedly. But she is really cute in everything else
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>>8791763
Yeah, Swankiss stuff looks cheap af in real life. The fabrics always look like some cheap costume satin.
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Sorry if this isn't allowed, but is there anyone in Tokyo who wants to go check out 109's sales today?
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>>8791643
Thank you so much!!
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>>8791643
I'm so excited for the lace top! Everything else is definitely cute but may be hard to dress down/wear to school or work.
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Why do her clothing always look dirty and frumpy?
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>>8792568

1. She might wear them for longer than only a year, some clothes get frumpy by that
2. 98% of Japanese clothing lines, especially our all mighty burandos, are real low kei quality.

So 1+2 gives what you see in the pictures
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>>8791641
I agree, doesn't belong here. Take your trashy normie wear to tumblr & call it whatever you want
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>>8792607
lolitas have such a skewed view of what constitutes "normie" clothing.
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>>8792568
Swankiss is cute but the quality looks iffy. For a +$200 coat i expect something a little better? idk and i can have the same thing with better quality at Lililly for almost the same price.
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>>8792682
Agreed. Imo Swankiss is the worst quality Larme brand (and yes I know even its status as a Larme brand is questionable). Mon lily looks like it has even better quality and it's usually at a lower price point. I would only consider buying swankiss secondhand.
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>>8791426
Calm down, sperglord. If you need everything spelled out for you and can't grasp the overall aesthetic, it isn't for you.
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>>8791805
you want somebody to explain to you in which way it's special, but it's not that special, so you are disappointed with the info you already have. it's popular here because it's cute and japanese.
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>>8791540
I feel like like blonde can work, but it takes a lot more effort to balance in an outfit without looking too cutesy. It's a workable, but non-ideal hair color.
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Anyone know if this is any good?
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>>8792007
Definitely add to the FAQ how larme differs from otome. Also the stuff that's been said about how Swankiss isn't just OTT larme.

I also think the scans list should be moved from pastebin to the spreadsheet so people can update it.
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>>8794456
I have it. It's not larme, but it's a cute read. It's got style similar to that nymphet style you see on tumblr.
It's not as good as her first book, but it's still interesting.
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Is this recent? What the hell is happening to Risa?
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>>8791392
wow she really packed it on
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>>8797543
I used to think it was contouring but it's obvious she got ps. The jaw shaving is the most blatant, she looks like a kpop idol.
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>>8792007
you're doing a great job, don't worry about absences, I'm just glad there are people like you willing to help out and put the effort in - it's seriously appreciated.

I think making sure we have an outline of what larme is and isn't is a good idea whilst also emphasizing that's it's more of an aesthetic ideal than a fashion with distinctive guidelines and 'rules' like some j-fash followers may be more familiar with - anything to help stop the tedious posts we've seen cropping up in this thread. I think this anon >>8793172
nails it - larme isn't a super distinctive 'out there' j-fash but it has enough about it to separate it from regular mainstream and conservative fashion, it still has an identity and this has become very clear to me after buying and going through the magazines. Larme is not like otome, general gyaru or himekaji either. If anything to me it's a bit like a Japanese take on ultra feminine hipster type fashion, with the carefree 'for myself' attitude associated with aomoji-kei, but with a more mature and streamlined look - easy on the embellishments, accessories etc.

I think taking some of the tips and ideas for black hair from the previous threads would be a good idea for sure, especially as I've seen a few repeat questions on the subject pop up here.

Saramari's 'what is and isn't' quick guide might be a great thing to include too (also posted in a previous thread), even if it's just a link to her page or someone's own take on her picture guide.

Some of the 'typical' larme looks for makeup might be a good thing to include as well, I think there were a few decent youtube links given in the last thread as well as some decent picture tutorials.

The last thread was actually great for content which is why this current thread looks so lacking in comparison, if someone would be willing to go through the archive and pick out the most useful posts from previous threads to help update the google doc etc, that would be really great.
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>>8791392
this picture isn't that new, she looks as trim and 'model like' as ever these days. Was she actually pregnant during this shoot, or shortly after giving birth? Either way, giving women crap for deciding to have a kid seems really bizarre to me, not to mention expecting them to stay skinny throughout their pregnancy with the 'swallowed a ball' look or whatever. Biology gonna bio.
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>>8798618
Just to add, I'd be happy to help out at all if any additional input is needed.

dropping a cute pic that appeared on my dash just cuz.
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Is there a way to figure out which stores require an SS and which stores let you use PayPal?
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>>8799124
Shoot, i meant Tenso, not PayPal
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>>8798618
She really likes this side of her face, Ariana who? Those outfits are really cute and i really wish i had the money to buy Lillilly.

Does anyone here shop Onespo? Some of their clothing were featured in Larme and the prices are actually affordable.
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>>8798618
I just found this (short) guide to Larme brands that has a pretty good explanation of how not every brand featured in Larme is always Larme kei:
http://mitsuru-hime.blogspot.ca/2015/12/larme-kei-brands.html
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Is the larme facebook group worth joining? I don't have an account but I would consider making one if it's active or helpful.
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>>8800752
depends what you think is helpful. It's a mix of brand updates, personal blogging (like magazine hauls), outfit posts and discussion. I think it is a good mix of small and active, easy to keep up with. even though the brand updates and reviews are occasional, it's nice to have somewhere to discuss larme at all.

dumping some members coords to give you an idea of what it's like
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>>8800955
some people also just post selfies, which I guess is good for seeing makeup attempts. I like this girl's look.
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>>8800946
They also just started a weekly sales thing, so if you're looking to buy or sell larme stuff that could be helpful. Idk, if you have a tumblr you could probably get about the same type of content on there though just by following the right people
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>>8790802
Amo looks so pretty to me still.
She was 24 when she had the kid, right? That's not super young.

I don't really understand Japan when it comes to celebrity pregnancies. But here's 2 examples with really different perceptions.
>Tsuji Nozomi - Obvious shotgun wedding due to pregnancy at age 20. Becomes more famous for being a mama.
>Goto Maki - Pregnant at age 30 and does a photoshoot. Pic related. It's a scandal! Look at her wearing high heels and showing cleavage! Think of the baby!

So I wonder if Amo's lack of activity is due to choice or damaged goods.
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>>8800752
There's new content about as frequently as there is here, but the main difference is that there are a lot more photos of members than models. There are also sales posts occasionally (which is now a Sunday thing).

If you're looking for more larme discussion in your life, definitely give it a go!
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>>8797543
I thought concerns about Risa and her changes were exaggerated until I saw this, she is looking more and more like Kota... I hate this alien editing trend, its awful. Old Risa was so beautiful! (not that she isn't anymore, but...)
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>>8791392
her face freaks me out, she looks she's wearing a fat person mask. this is tragic all around.
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>>8798666
She didn't decide to have a kid, she had an unplanned pregnancy and had a shotgun wedding to the guy. It's a bit sad that it turned her life upside down but I hope she's doing okay.
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>>8803247
That hair is so ugly
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>>8797552
>jaw shaving
I believe Risa has filler in her chin and botox along her jaw to get a v-line.
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is it just me or is monaka really goofy looking?
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>>8803265
Look up jaw shaving, botox doesn't chop half of your jaw like that.
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>>8801032
Maki's whole life is surrounded in scandal (her father not being around, her mothers death, her brothers incarceration.) . If papers print anything about her it would have to be scandalous in a way.

Tsuji lucked out because Ai's scandal was so huge that anything she did wasn't that bad. W was inactive at the time (so she really wasnt a superstar idol anymore), and everyone was so wrapped up with Ai's madness that Tsuji was just able to be like "Oh I'm getting married to ultraman!" with little reaction.
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>>8792568
probably because they actually wear the clothes instead of just putting them on for mirror pictures and stuffing them in the back of their closets.
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>>8803916
Or you know you could just take care of your clothing? I'm not trashing my dress because i wear it more than once. Also that girl is the Swankiss creator, she's literally wearing a different outfit on every pictures i saw of her because she's loaded and promoting her own creations.
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>>8803256
Uh no... she got married quite a while before she got pregnant
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>>8803854
Did she had double eyelid surgery? Or is she wearing tape. Maybe it's shoop too but she looks like a totally different person. She wasn't ugly before, she reminded me of that russian model, Magdalena Frackowiak.
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>>8803854
Gosh she was SO beautiful.

But not sure she actually got surgery, a lot of beauty apps (like beauty plus) edit your face into a v shape... maybe I'm just in denial.
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Anyone got their swankiss LP yet or know anything about shipping?
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>>8806259
Sorry, I'm dumb but how would you go about putting something like this in your hair?
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>>8806283
See how the hair is looped around the ribbon? I think there's a braid or something under there. Google corset ribbon braid, it's a thing
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What's with all this celeb mag style gossip? Can we try to keep things a bit more directly larme fash?

Love the outfit in pic related. I have come to find though that a lot of these brands don't look too great on the hangers, the styling is really import and perhaps an ability to see past sad looking clothing on yahoo auctions etc and recognize their potential. I find following the larme associated brand blogs etc helps too, that way you can see how things fit even if we might not all be cute petite Japanese girls.
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I've been saving up for larme 5 recently, the photos look so interesting and the whole memento mori, melancholic fairy tale vibe really appeals to me (probably because I'm a massive goth at heart buy hey).

I want to swan about in beautiful landscapes wearing pretty clothes being all beautiful and tragic damn it. 'it's hard being this gorgeous and introspective' that kinda thing.
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>>8803854
Different angles + iphone photo editing app
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>>8803854
Caucasian version of Risa, seriously it's uncanny.

The styling here seems so larme appropriate as well.
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Found a Swankiss dress on Rakuten for 2160yen, with international shipping available. Someone who would fit it should go take advantage of this deal!

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kanful/item/g008034895/?s-id=borderless_browsehist_en
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>>8791578
>>8806259
Mine just shipped from TOM!!!
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>>8807847
Omg!!!! Thanks for posting this, checked my email and mine shipped too!
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>>8807859
i'm so excited! i like everything that was revealed, i just hope they look good on me
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I know people had bought a few pom pom style accessories from aliexpress, but has anyone bought any other hair accessories they can recommend? I feel like that's the polish that my outfits lack.
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>>8807937
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/611-Hot-Promotion-Sweet-Bowknot-Hair-Clip-Women-s-Headwear-Ladies-Hairpin-Hair-Accessory-FD895/32370340710.html?spm=2114.13010208.99999999.326.pOOOeV

This is small and cheap but it's pretty well made, one of the only barrettes that stays put in my thin hair. I like the black and dark red
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>>8807847
>>8807859
and mine!
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>>8807937
I haven't bought from them yet but Crayme have been featured in Larme a lot and they have a tonne of interesting hair accessories
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>>8806770
kek looks like a h&m dress senpai
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I'd love to see a master post on how to get started building a larme wardrobe. I find that I keep going for OTP Swanskiss-esk pieces. It would also be nice to have a guide to look at while thrift shopping. Any tips, anons?
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>>8806327
Yo, I love these dresses. What brand are these?
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>>8809294
I just downloaded a lot of magazine scans and looked for stuff in local stores that resembled those things. I go for the more casual stuff though, not Swankiss lol.
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>>8809294
The most promising sections to me in a thrift store to me are the skirts, the sweaters, and the blouses. Some people might find nice things in the lingerie/sleepwear section too, but that's a little icky for me. In any of these sections, you've just kind of gotta scan for nice colors and textures:

Colours: Black, white, grey(or small blackxwhite prints), pastels (especially dusty pastels), red

Textures: Angora, mohair, velvet, really anything fluffy to touch, (faux) leather, chiffon, lace, anything else that's girly and/or interesting

Then you pull the item out and give it an assessment. Does it have any details you've seen in the magazine? Can you add details you've seen in the magazine? Is it a nice cut? Is it too office worker-y? Is there anything you don't like about it? Can you remove what you don't like about it? Will it complement things you already own?

And then you try it on, and buy it if it fits (or if you think you can tailor it).
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Small lilLilly dump because I never really see them mentioned in this thread
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>>8810294
Strong Courtney Love vibes
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>>8810295
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>>8810296
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>>8810299
Really enjoying this ridiculous fluffy gaucho look
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>>8810301
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>>8810304
I freaking love tulle skirts. Especially with fluffy sweaters.
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>>8810357
I got you anon
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>>8810370
These are more organza then tulle I think but similar vibe
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Would anyone mind if I posted a couple of coord ideas for concrit? They'll just be laid out on my bed but I could still do with some feedback.
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>>8811155
Go ahead! I'd love to see them
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>>8811161
Thanks anon. They're mostly offbrand/western stuff because I wanted to be sure I really liked and suited the style before spending any serious money on it.

It doesn't show up well here, but the socks are translucent with a daisy pattern, and the shoes are on a piece of cardboard.
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>>8811170
Similar/same. Again, the socks don't show up properly but they're polkadot patterned.
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>>8811170
>>8811174
Looks good to me Anon. I especially like the pink forever shirt.
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>>8811170
Sauce on those shoes?
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>>8811170
Unless my eyes are deceiving me they're from New Look (9-15 is the teens section)
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>>8811249
Thanks anon. I'm looking for another one 'cause this one is starting to pill pretty badly and I wear it all the time.
>>8811350
>>8811370
Correct, they are from new look. I got them on sale for like £7.
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>>8811170
Are those the primark daisy socks anon? Strong choice. Really like the first outfit btw.
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>>8811174
These are both fantastic! I like how you got two different looks out of the one bag.
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>>8811170
>>8811174
very cute!
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What do you guys think about these? I'm a beginner at this style and I'm not so good at telling if things are larme-able or not.
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>>8812044
Definitely the skirt, you can see some examples of tulle skirts above in the thread.

The dress possibly, but to me it loses a few points for the bare elasticated waist and neckline. With the right accessories - maybe a ribbon or patent leather belt, a hairbow, sheer dotted socks - you're good to go.
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>>8812044
The skirt is great, the dress is okay. It's a nice fabric, but the bodice is a little too normie-y (for lack of a better word). Would work well paired with a cardigan like pic related, or played up with accessories.
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>>8812044
Where are those from, anon?
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>>8812594
Kohl's, lol.
If anyone with more larme experience wants to check out some of their brands to see if there's anything worth using, some I think have potential are Lauren Conrad (the dress and skirt came from her collections) and ELLE, at least what I saw in my local store.
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>>8811170
Imma need a source on that skirt, anon
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>>8791392
Oh, no Amo...I can't tell if she actually has a double chin or if its just that little bit of hair making it look like she does.
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>>8811511
Thanks very much. They are indeed~ Some of the odd things you can find in primark are great.

>>8811606
Thank you! I have one of those big pompom keyrings I like to use on it as well.

>>8811910
Thanks!

>>8812663
I got it from Bank last year, but I see it pop up on ebay from different brands occasionally. There was a listing yesterday in fact, I can't find it right now but if I do I'll post it for you.
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>>8813003
I'll keep my eye out for the skirt, thanks for the heads up!
Really love the outfits you've put together! They're both versatile, and I'd say that you could get even more mileage out of the second one by incorporating some more red (e.g. switching shoes or black skirt for a red one) so then you actually have three outfits

I love seeing other gulls experimenting with larme. Keep up the good work guys!
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>>8806327
I love larme too for a similar reason. It's very casual and perfect for daily life, it has a gothic vibe sometimes but never going too tacky or over the top. I'm always a goth at heart too, i sorta identify with the subculture but i love more frilly and delicate clothing rather edgy and too bat shitting outfits. There are many larme outfits that a goth could totally wear with no issues, like these black and white outfits with peter pan collars and velvet chokers and crosses.
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I've been wondering, has anyone picked up larme 19 and been kinda disappointed by it? I was so hyped for it but compared to 18 it just doesn't seem to have the same gorgeous photo sets and instead comes across a lot messier and generally cluttered. For me the clean look and beautiful photos was its major appeal and created a real stand out point from all the other j-mags. I hope it's not going to continue in the style represented in larme 19, something about it almost feels rushed as well.

Perhaps I'm being unfair as 19 has a lot of 'how to' and model insider type focus so maybe they wanted to to include a lot of useful tips and tutorials before going back to a layout more like 18, I dunno. Not to mention those articles are pretty much lost on me as I can't read much Japanese.

I guess I'm just sour because I spent the last of my 'fun stuff' money on it and didn't get anywhere near as much enjoyment from chilling out with a copy as I thought I would. I loved being swept up in the appealing world they created with their earlier additions.
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>>8813488
It felt like to me just a "Best of 215" issue rather than its own thing.
I think I get what you mean.
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Would it be a good idea to do something like what the lolitas do in January and do a larme wardrobe post?
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>>8813488
Yeah, I used to be able to spend a lot of time flipping through the magazine but the more recent issues haven't been as engaging for me.

I just flipped through the newest issue that came out today (20) and meh, don't think I'll be buying Larme anymore.
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>>8815343
Really? I feel the opposite, I like that its so scattered because it gives me a lot to think about, and also a lot of options for people who like the style but not certain elements. If it was just one theme the whole way through I would get bored more easily.
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>>8815597
>>8813488

I've never bought an issue before, which do you guys recommend?
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>>8815597
I agree anon. I bought the magazines in reverse order and feel like the earliest issues are pretty generic, whilst the newest have a well established style and focus with a lot of optionality
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Can anyone recommend a tutorial how to cut bangs larme style? Or a puc I should show my hairdresser? Last time I let someone else cut my bangs they were too thick, I have really thin wavy hair so it made my hair look even thinner.
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>>8815694
The first ones I got were 12 and 18, which I love, but if I were you I'd get the most recent and work backwards
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>>8791386
>>8791392
Found a video of her at that event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0LwWHdLSo
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>>8816968
She looks ok to me, just the sun is in her eyes so she's doing that weird face
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I remember a lot of anons looking for this bag recently and ran into this one in the auctions. I was actually going to bid on it but I really shouldn't be wasting money right now so good luck to anyone if they go for it.

>http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v445310856
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>>8815597
I'm glad you're still enjoying it anon, for me though the 'scattered' look is what so many j-fash mags already do, and the ones that do go for a cleaner look tend to have less interesting and 'arty' images when showcasing clothing. I loved the idea of 'sweet girly artbook' as a concept that aims to break more conventional magazine formats. The editor of larme also stated that she wanted to focus on dreamy fantasy type imagery rather than just showcase lots of outfit and clothing mixes across single pages.

I've also noticed that there haven't been so many scan uploads to tumblr etc of larme 19 and I have a feeling it's mostly due to the lack of large and 'arty' images to fawn over. I do appreciate that people find 'how to' guides, lots coordinate examples etc useful, that stuff was just never the main draw for me.
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this is one of my favorite images from larme 19, it's just so cute!
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>>8818154
this is the full page but I kinda preferred the cropped version (I took these with my camera so they're not scan quality unfortunately).

I find the idea of a bathing and papering session with a good friend that is isn't portrayed in a hottxxxaction or even Vogue style 2arty4u kinda way charming and cute as hell. Not that I'd likely take a bath and hang out with my friends in the nude but the concept is sweet at least.
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>>8806259
I got mine yesterday and I love it. The items make really cute outfits and the bag is pretty well made.

Does anyone want to know specifics? I got the pink one btw.
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>>8818161
another favorite image, it's only a small pic on page 65 but I absolutely love the cut out shoulder knit here, it has just a hint of coquettishness which I think is more appealing than something obviously sexy.
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>>8818177
would you be willing to take some pictures and do a bit of a commentary? I'd love to see that anon!
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>>8818185
Sure! I was meaning to take layout pictures of the items soon.

I'll be back in a bit.
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>>8818161
>bathing and papering session

oops gotta love auto correct, somewhere out there this is probably an actual thing
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>>8818185
Different anon, I only have outfit pics and don't feel confident enough to share those. The other anon has the pics covered anyway.

But as a general review of the bag...the items are right in between traditional larme-kei and the more swankiss side of the style, they can fit into larme or they can be dressed up to be more out there. So that's a big plus!

The lace top is my favorite piece since layering is such a big part of the fashion. It's nicely made and really soft and has a really cute neckline.

The skirt is my least favorite item, but I don't really like elastic waist bands that much so that might be why. It's also shiny, which is cute, but a little OTT> It's cute enough but a little bit too immature for my tastes.

I didn't expect to like the sweater because of the sequins but the cut is sooooo cute, it's like 90's style. It's versatile too, can be worn with a skirt and heels or jeans and sneakers.

The dress kind of reminds me of monlilly items, it's subtle but still quirky enough for larme. The fabric has a great texture, kind of felty, and it's really heavy so it can definitely be worn for winter if you layer it right.

And we've all seen the coat in pictures already but heads up...IT'S SUPER SOFT.
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>>8818185
I'll do this in parts.

First up is the bag.

It's really soft and every bit as cute as the picture. The closure is magnetic, so I am going to make sure to be careful when I open it to avoid tearing.It doesn't feel cheap though, so I'm not worried about it ripping, I just want to be careful. The inner compartment is lined and has a zipper closure. The bottom has a stiff material in it to help it keep its shape. Finally, the shoulder strap feels sturdy. It's a pleather material, so I know it won't last forever, but it is a decent quality and I don't see it flaking unless I abuse it.
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>>8818275
Next up is the coat.

This is the coat from the product photo. It's extremely soft. There are two pompoms on the end of strings, but they are purely aesthetic. There are two pockets on the front shaped like hearts. I wouldn't put anything in there for safe keeping, but they are large enough for my hands and they are really cute. Instead of buttons, there are magnetic closures. Again, I'm going to be careful. The coat doesn't feel like it will tear around the metal, but better safe than sorry. The back doesn't have any embellishment, but that's fine. It hits me mid thigh. I'm 5'2".
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>>8818295
Here is the knit Sequin Pullover.

It's very comfortable and fits loosely. It reaches the top of my hips. The sequins are opalescent and are sewn on very securely. I will definitely hand wash this though. The back doesn't have embellishment, but that's fine. The front's design is enough. I like to wear my hair down, so I feel bad sometimes when there are a lot of details on the back of things.
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>>8818309
Here is the White Sparkle skirt that you can see the waistband of in the worn pullover pic.

The skirt is three layers. The inner one is a slip, the middle is a stiff tulle with glitter in it, and the outer one is a softer tulle with little ribbon roses sewn onto the hem. The skirt is a bit sheer, I would wear some white shorts under it. Other than that, it's a cute, simple piece. You could coordinate it with the pullover, or use it for something else. I really like how versatile it is.
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>>8818319
The other top in the bag is a sheer black lace top.

It's got some stretch, but lengthwise, not width wise. The arms were big enough for me, but if you actually lift, they might be too small. The Pullover would work for loads of body sizes, but this top is a bit more restrictive. (There is also no elastic at the wrists, so I had to work my hands through carefully.) The pom pom at the neck is removable. It has a pin on the back. There is an invisible zipper with a hook and eye closure at the back of the neck. The zipper goes down to mid back. It's a comfortable piece though and it is a nice Larme layer.
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>>8818353
The OP of the bag is really nice. This and the coat are the best quality out of everything.

There is a zipper on one side with a hook and eye closure. The material is thick, making it nice for cooler weather and it's lined. The bow detail on the back is so cute. It's probably my favorite detail of this dress. The little pleats at the bottom are also adorable.

This dress goes well with the lace top.
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>>8818361
Here is the Pullover and Skirt together. I tucked the top into the waist because the hem of the top is too narrow to leave it untucked with this skirt. It pushes down the poof and just looks awkward.
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>>8818368
And here is the Pink Bow OP with the Black Lace top.

I really liked how the pieces in this set could be coordinated together or used for other outfits. It's a great addition to a Larme or jfash wardrobe because there are lots of opportunities to mix and match with items you already have.

I have a few worn pictures, but they aren't that great quality because it's harder to get clear pictures with my phone when stuff isn't laid out flat with light pointed directly at it.
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This is weird, usually lps are lower quality than a brands regular stuff, this all looks better quality that normal.
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I have big, puffy, round lips like >>8806343 but my eyes are deepset and heavy lidded. How do I look more innocent without too much makeup? I just usually don't wear any at all, but if just a bit would help me, I'd probably look way cuter. I have soft, round features but my eyes really ruin it! I also wear glasses and I'm afraid of touching my eyes, so contacts are hard for me to put in. I've never once managed it and nobody else has been able to either from my flinching.
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>>8818625
Use highlighting concealer to lift the deepset areas. Also don't do thick eyeliner. In fact, if you can get away with tightlining, only go for it.
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>>8818275
thanks so much for sharing anon, swankiss isn't really my style but I love how accessible and versatile this is and the quality really does look good. This is honestly one of the best lucky packs I've seen for this year, including the lolita ones.

I kinda like the idea of trying out items like pic related but in a more mature and toned down kinda way as well.
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>>8819328
No problem. I agree that this is a great lucky pack. I've gotten Liz Lisa trunks two years previous, but since they didn't do any this year, I decided to get this Swankiss one.
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>>8818376
I'm so salty that this OP doesn't fit me, when I pull close the hook I feel the constant boob pressure and its uncomfortable to breathe.
Either nipponpon girls too flat or I'm too fat for this shit. Everything else fits nicely though.
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>>8819823
Sell it to me, anon!
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>>8819823
What is your bust measurement? I forgot to give an estimate for sizing. I agree that it's probably unkind to busts over 84cm. The waist didn't seem especially tiny though.
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>>8819823
Mine fits but just barely, and I'm flat chested as hell. I attributed it to my rib cage.

>>8818353
Glad I'm not the only one who had trouble getting my hands through the sleeves, i was worried I had abnormally wide hands!
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>>8819860
No worries on the wrist/hands thing. I thought it was weird that they'd try a thinner wrist fit without buttons or elastic. But hey it's clothing mass produced for trendy fashion.
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>>8819823
If you don't want it, I'm interested if you sell it.
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>>8812746
To me it looks like a combination of the piece of hair, the tilt of her head, and the white reflection from her dress.
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>>8819828
>>8820070

Oh yeah sure! We can talk about that!
I'm from Canada though, is that ok?
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>>8820367
ugh forgot my throaway email
[email protected]
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Another from larme 19 I don't think I've seen scans of yet(?)
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>>8819841
What?? is this all their clothing? bra sizes in America start at 32in bust right? that type of thinness i model status.
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>>8814816
I think we should. I bet it'd pick up traction with the discussions too.
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>>8821779
It's definitely not uncommon for asian clothing. Height and bone size make a pretty big difference and while not all asians have small busts they are much more common.
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>>8821779
Most of their bust measurements are around 80cm. Some of them are literally smaller than my ribcage by a cm or two. Asians just have smaller bone structure (and they are also probably only catering to the thinner asians, at that)
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>>8821779
It comes from being over all smaller as a population. The average height in East Asia is smaller than the Average height in Europe, the U.S., Canada, Australia, etc. The overall trend when you get taller, it to get a bit wider as well.

You don't have to be model thin. I'm 5'2" with a 81cm bust at a healthy weight. Depending on your sources, 5'2" is average height in Japan for women. So, 50% of women are at or shorter than that.
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Some images fresh from larme 020, if anyone has any more to share that would be great as this is all I have for now.
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>>8822075
that makes sense but damn. i'm not saying that that frame is unhealthy but being 5"7 130lbs i'd have to work my ass off to get that small.
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>>8822031
Yes. One of the reasons why jfashions don't get very popular is that even if we discount the fact that Western people nowadays tend to be overweight, it's extremely rare for non-Asians to have frames that tiny.
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mature, sophisticated larme look
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>>8823535
Source on the skirt please, if you could?
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>>8823535
Sauce on the beret and shoes pls, I really like this outfit
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>>8818147
Since the magazine Cutie ceased publication last fall, I feel Larme is branching out a little more to cover that type of mag style
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Larme beginner here, can I have some concrit with these coordinates?
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>>8823841
The black thing is a velvet scrunchie.
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>>8823841
maybe get a necklace that's a bit lower down. this might get in the way of the bow on the top. other than that looks fine.
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>>8823842
Last one. Hope the resizing is alright.
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>>8823842
That top is super cute anon. Where did you get it?
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>>8824008
Kohl's! It also comes in cream and grey.
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Fuzzy cardigan?

http://www.target.com/p/women-s-cardigan-mossimo-supply-co/-/A-21406823#prodSlot=large_2_21
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>>8824307
Kohl's does have some larme-able things from time to time, like Forever 21.
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Do you need an SS to order from Crayme?
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Larme kind of has this Virgin Suicides/Sofia Coppola vibe to it
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Can someone direct me to the larme group? I can't seem to find it on FB.
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>>8828982
it's facebook dot com slash groups slash larmekei
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Besides pearls, what kinds of jewelry are appropriate for larme?

Also if anyone's interested, ASOS has a lot of larme-able fluffy and pompom shoes for sale rn for like under $30.
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>>8829039
I see black velvet chokers a lot as well as cute things like cherries.
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>>8829039
From Risa's style book
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>>8829024
Thank you!!
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>>8829123
In case that one isn't clear
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>>8829039
Anything gold and girly. Phrase pendants or hair clips that say 'Sweetheart' and so on.
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>>8829356
No problem anon!
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Anyone know where I can get this flower choker? Also seen on Risa in the Anna Sui x Larme video here:

https://youtu.be/2hgHlFzsZV4
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>>8831352
Why not diy it?
It's probably the easiest thing to diy cgl ever saw.
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I know this gets asked every couple of threads, but is larme losing popularity, at least the casual, non-Swankiss style things? Most larme outfits don't get very many notes on tumblr and this thread doesn't update that often, even considering that cgl is a slow board.
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>>8833048
It might just be because it;s winter in most of the West and people are bogged down with snow. I know at least where I am that looking cut is not a priority, and even winter larme isn't really real world appropriate. No one wears fucking ankle socks in the snow.

Also most larme outfits on tumblr are shit, just saying. People don't need to go full out swankiss, but doing normie clothes with larme makeup doesn't work as well outside the magazine. People need to step up their game
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>>8833072
By step up their game, do you mean look less normie or have better backgrounds for photos or...? Because I do want to improve
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>>8833138
Less normie. The problem is that while larme features a lot of normie looking outfits, the styling and presentation makes it fit in with the rest of the magazine. But those types of outfits don't evoke the larme feeling so well in real life, especially in the West. I don't think people need to try to make their photos like art or anything. But some attention to the details that really set larme apart will really help you and others. Just look at the larme threads at what scans get posted. It's generally the more detailed coords. That's not to say you can't use clothes from normie stores. The stuff in this thread is pretty nice imo:
>>8823535
>>8823841
>>8823842
>>8823845

And then play up the makeup and hair from tutorials in the magazine.

Then the other end of the spectrum is people on tumblr who have no idea what larme is and wear some bastardized fairy kei crap or a Barbie sweater.
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>>8833561
Ok, let me illustrate: here's a pic from the larme facebook group. I can see what's she's going for here with the lace top, but overall it looks pretty basic. Not a terrible outfit imo but it's hard to get the feeling of larme from it.
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>>8833611
Here's something a little better. It has some off brand pieces and some brand pieces. I wasn't able to find anything entirely offbrand that I liked. But the lace shirt and the skirt, plus the accessories push it a little past normie for me and make it stand out from a sea of western fashion.

Honestly I had trouble finding good coords on the facebook group. Most outfits are pretty bad or not larme. I'll see if I can find anything better on tumblr for an example.
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>>8833561
>>8833611
>>8833626
Okay, I see what you mean now.
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>>8833611
Oh, this is me! I definitely could have chosen a better outfit to post to the group. This was more of an attempt to be larme-esque but still appropriate for going to my office job.
I'm going to use a longer sleeved lace top maybe layered with a tank, and a cute barrette and choker to it if I ever wear it again. A girl in the group suggested white socks instead of black, so I might try that out as well. But yeah, I am still building up my wardrobe so I've been trying to make do with mostly offbrand things.
Pic related is a more recent attempt, albeit still lacking in accessories and brand. Definitely open to any concrit for this outfit too!
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>>8834017
dropped pic
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>>8834019
Honestly, it looks too frumpy and cheap for me. Here, I think the socks are really weak, and the top (combo?) is a little too much with both lace and fishnet/check pattern. I also don't think that skirt is very flattering on you.

To make it more larme, you need accessories and softer pieces, too. Little things are what make this fashion come together. Otherwise you just look like a normie.
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>>8834028
Advice definitely noted, thanks!
By softer pieces, do you mean softer in color or more flow-y/loose?
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>>8834138
I mean softer, girlier pieces, like accessories. For example, >>8833626 features a soft fuzzy pin and a softer looking blouse.
I also think that outfits that play with texture and fit generally look better than ones that don't. Mixing knits with tulle or tight tops with flowing skirts/oversized sweaters with tighter skirts looks better than swimming in everything or having everything glued to your body. This is why I think >>8823842 and >>8823841 work pretty well.
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>>8833561
To me larme needs a variety of textures to be translated well. Most of the examples: >>8833611
>>8834019
show mostly cotton and stretch materials. Sheer, leather, gloss, fur, and lace components should be used especially considering how frumpy larme is but people look too much to construction and color to notice how heavily texture plays into larme.

And not only the clothing but people don't know how to do their fucking makeup. I'm so tired of seeing a girl in bright red lipstick and winged eyeliner with a tight pencil skirt tagged as larme... it looks like pin-up! I haaate pin-up!
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>>8834149
This is really helpful! I'm kind of ashamed for not thinking about texture for these outfits because I'm usually really interested in textures. I'm doing some AE browsing now to build up an order, I might post it for advice later. Thanks guys.
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What is the Facebook group? I didn't know there was one.
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>>8834262
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>>8834019
>>8833611
I think you have a good eye for some of the elements that can give a piece of clothing a "larme-like" feel, but the details are off and the silhouette of your clothing and hair isn't larme at all. Your clothing is form-fitting all over, while larme outfits need soft, flowing elements, e.g. >>8823590 is fitted but adds softness with a peplum blouse, ruffles, and a straight skirt, not bodycon like you're wearing in >>8834019. Some volume/curl to your hair would go a long way as well.

You're also using a lot of design elements in a single outfit (hearts, lace, fur, ribbons, check) without unifying them, which looks awkward. You're missing textural contrast (stretchy polyester all over); soft or fluffy textures like knits or tulle would really help here. Your shoes also look way too big for you.
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Concrit? This is just an outfit I wore to work but felt it had a larme feel
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Just got some Katie rosettes in the post, they're super cute but I was wondering if anyone knows of a good way to seal (?) the paper backs? They look pretty fragile. Come to think of it is there anything you could use on the ribbon part to protect it, too?
Sorry for the shit yellowy lighting.
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>>8835319
Nice, anon. Where/how did you get those? They're sold out on the webstore.
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>>8835268
The socks don't sit right with me, maybe swap for sheer stockings? White ones look quite nice.
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>>8835268
I thought the same thing about the socks, they're cute but not very larme and are a little much with the dress.
I do like the dress though, where is it from? I might add a fuzzy cardigan or a long sleeved sheer shirt under it for a little interest. I also like the red pop in your hair
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>>8835792
Got them from an auction on y!jp. There's a few available on their zozo webstore including this beauty
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>>8835268
Same anon. Thanks everyone for the leg wear help! The dress is vintage (unfortunately doesn't have a brand tag either). I have another casual outfit from today with shorter socks this time, I hope these are improving .
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>>8837382
Oh and I had already removed my makeup so please just concrit on the coord, thank you!
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Sorry I've been super lame at keeping my queue up recently as life has been hectic but I'm bulking out my queue now to last a couple weeks while I start scanning again.

But you should follow my tumblr for scans!

http://larme-kei.tumblr.com/

2.8k followers and a competition that ends Sunday. Check it out.
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>>8837382
I feel like the socks are too busy and just drive all the attention toward your feet.
I'd either change them for something less attention grabbing or maybe add a hair accessory in a strong color that would direct the sight back to your face.
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>>8837747
I'm already following haha, your blog is great though, keep it up
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>>8837382
personally i think the shoes look a little silly, and i agree with >>8837786 about the socks
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>>8837849
>>8837786
Thanks for the feedback! I've been seeing a lot of silver shoes recently in Larme, so I thought I'd give it a shot but maybe it doesn't sit right with the coord due to warm tones in the bag and skirt. I'll tone down my sock collection too haha
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I have a long wool pleated skirt similar to pictured, would it be appropriate for larme?
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>>8838340
Totally!
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>>8838421
What Risa is wearing is completely different from the frumpy skirt Anon posted
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Nakamura Risa will be taking over Amo-produced brand E hyphen Bon Bon.
Opinion?
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>>8839060
Aww no, it will be less kawaii uguu now
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>>8791392
wew boy angles and lighting are everything...
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>>8837382
i like this a lot but nix those socks
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>>883906
Kind of sad, but on the other hand I have such a boner for Risa that I'm excited to see it. Any other pics?
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>>8839100
Sorry wrong post meant to reply to >>8839060
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new thread >>8839632
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>>8838859
bitch you dont know how to style damn
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