Almost entirely Amazon links related to the theme of the account (I have several demographics: diet/fashion/lifestyle/etc) The first month or so I was putting in 5 hours a day or more gathering resources and scripting actions, but once everything was set up the workload dropped substantially, I work on it maybe an hour a day now, some days I don't even look at it
I actually started a long time ago writing scripts/macros for Ultima Online, but it's really simple. Download autohotkey and use the record tool, then modify the results until you get something that works. I have a dozen scripts that take care of posting, following, cleanup, etc. Setting up a new account is as simple as plugging the account credentials into the scripts and setting them to run in task scheduler
Do you actually have to know anything about your themes to be successful in this? For instance, I'm not interested at all in "diet, fashion, or lifestyle" but I assume that's where a lot of the money is.
It doesn't hurt. You're going to be spending a lot of time initially racking resources for tweets (links images etc). I really like Nike shoes, low carb dieting, and cars, so those were my first accounts.
Once it got to the point where I could have an account up and loaded with enough material for a month of posts in just a couple hours of fucking around, though, it became easy to branch out into things I'm not personally interested in (girly diy stuff, pregnancy advice, blah blah)
I use the Chrome tweepi extension to select entire pages of users, and use a script to follow/unfollow hundreds of people per day, per account. I don't pay for premium services because I don't really need to- just need a dedicated machine to handle running all the scripts. Mine is just an old Lenovo netbook.
Lots of scripting and debugging in the beginning. The idea though is simple: gather material for your twitter accounts to spit out. Set up a service or scripting to spit out that material when you want (all of my accounts post automatically 4-5 times daily). Follow the followers of a similar account, by the hundreds, daily. Wait for the users you have followed to follow you back. Then, after a day or two, unfollow anyone who is not following you back. repeat this process across all your accounts and build a following, and eventually start retweeting advertisements or rolling your own with your own affiliate links. A small percentage click through, a percentage of that percentage buy something on Amazon, and you get a percentage of those sales.
It took a few months of staying on it daily. Accounts are very slow growing in the beginning, but once you have a few hundred followers it starts to pick up. Once you're over a thousand you can also add significantly more daily without getting locked by twitter, which really helps.
Imagine you have a half million active followers and you post an advertisement at the best possible time once daily that reaches all 500000 followers. Assume 1% clicks through. They now have a tracking cookie on their computer. For the next 48 hours, anything they buy will net you a 4% commission. Say 5% of that 1% makes a purchase in a month of daily advertising. How much did you make that month on those slim numbers?
I go into them all every couple of days and do some retweeting, I occasionally post text tweets, but really I'm just looking for consumer junkies who like looking at pictures of material goods, or desperate people looking for a quick fix to their diet or whatever.
>>612402 IIRC OP has one amazon affiliate account, and hundreds of email+twitter accounts that all post links from the same amazon account.
OP, would you say you were able to refine your algorithms on one account and then pretty much copy paste that to new ones? I'm just learning AHK but it seems like you could automate the creation of account specific scripts from a master script, so you could quickly revise many bots at once.
>>612409 How long would it take to learn what you typed up? If you posted the code here, would just adjusting variables like resolution/themes/etc. be enough to get it rolling? Also, which language? Just download autohotkey and type in that? Never used it, so I'm curious.
Watch a few YouTube tutorials, it doesn't take long. Might take a day or two before you have something nice and functional. Get a reference list of shortcuts for your chosen web browser and OS, definitely makes things easier/more reliable
>>612918 How long do you usually wait before you unfollow those who didn't follow back? Do you know the specific limits of twitter? Like how many accounts can you follow in one day without getting banned?
Interesting stuff OP. I remember when I did the blog click ring scam with /b/ a few years ago but quit due to laziness. Luckily I stopped right before they cracked down on everyone so I still have a good standing with adsense.
I set up an amazon partner account, but I'm not from the US so i can only cash out in gift cards or check, which has brutal fees. How are you doing it? Are you from the US?
I followed around 800 people in the last 5 hours, so far 35 have followed back, but US online time is night time for me so that sucks. Also I don't want to keep my PC turned on during the night, so my scripts are quite useless right now.
>>612532 lol i remember you, allthebestmilfs was it? I started out same time as you did. My follower base is getting quite solid now and I'm getting ready for monetizing the traffic in a couple of months or so.
Services like that seem like a waste of money to me. I can build my own user base, I can slap a landing page or site together if I really need one.
Actually I'm working on a blog at the moment as part of a more all-encompassing marketing campaign. Use twitter to drive the traffic, offer an eBook in exchange for signing up for my mailing list, let the page climb the google rankings, then publish a more robust eBook and make a few bucks. With the regular advertising thrown in all the while of course
>>611692 I love following these big sites about deals/discounts. Would this be a viable twitter to startup? If I just started posting like the best deal for free money/stuff everyday, then eventually plugging an affiliate program?
>>613922 That not 4% on targeted items, that's 4% on ANYTHING they buy within that 24 hour window. Also, that commission goes up depending on how many items you've sold in the month.
Lets say Johnny is on twitter and clicks on your link, not knowing what it is. It takes him to amazon. While the item he landed on doesn't interest him at all, he does see some suggested products that he actually wants, so he adds them to his cart. He can checkout any time after that, and you'll get the commission, as long as those items were added to the cart within 24 hours of clicking your link.
It's a much different structure than Clickbank. Amazon associates can use a shotgun tactic and get as many people as possible to click the link, and by sheer numbers alone a few people will buy stuff they'd buy anyway.
Click bank products don't really mesh with most of my audience. They're bullshit scheme stuff. Now, I'm working on a couple motivation accounts and one actually about affiliate marketing.... Those I could dump click bank crap on. It's in the pipeline for sure.
I haven't even tweeted anything yet and I've gotten 80 followers in the past day using Tweepi. When would it start taking off? I think I heard you say 1,000 somewhere in this thread. I'm gonna start retweeting some stock articles and post charts. By the time I get 10K followers, I'm gonna charge for some get rich e book
>Programmer >Recently lost shit job I could easily write something up myself to work with my needs instead of relying on someone elses software that only does half of what I need. OP, I love you. Thanks for the idea.
>>614577 This whole thread has been about shilling affiliate marketing links. Maybe you should read it.
I know Twitter will delete an account if you try to sell it, but if you keep it on the DL how would they know? I can see myself building up something like this to finance another project, and then selling off the accounts once I get sick of it.
>>614586 >tfw there's an explosion of shill bots because of OP, and Twitter figures out how to spot and block them
>>614588 Would people actually buy twitter accounts off people if it had alot of followers? Where would you even go about doing that? I know you just said Twitter will delete them if found out, but I would assume they would only find out 'after' I sold it, so it wouldn't be my problem at that point.
>>614593 You're basically selling the login credentials to someone else.
If you set up the deal in the booth of your favorite diner with a friend, there's no way for Twitter to know.
A guy recently tried to sell a Twitter handle with a desireable name. He put the "for sale" notice up on Twitter, and after he made the sale, Twitter reset the password and (I believe) returned it to him. Maybe someone here can provide sauce.
Anyways, it would violate the TOS, but it's not illegal or anything obviously.
>>614602 That's my point, if you keep it quiet, there's no way for Twitter to know it's a different user logging in.
>What is the URL of the website(s) you will use to send traffic to Amazon?
If I'm planning on making a massive amount of Twitter accounts and whore them out, does it actually matter if I put all of them here? Might be a silly question, but the Amazon site doesn't really specify.
I wonder if it's possible to create a facebook page for every one of those Twitter bot accounts linking them, Same with Instagram. You'd have a giant network of bots posting to every major social site. Reaching the greatest number of people possible. it's prob a lot more work than it sounds and I imagine you'd be getting banned and deleted accounts left and right.
>>614675 Unless you do everything using scripts I don't think you'll get banned. What does it take to look up a random topic related picture on the internet that features a currently popular topic, post it on your site, write a short text and make a few clicks on tweepi every day...
>>614692 Thank you anon. Each social platform is sort of unique in what users it has. Targeting as many of them as possible and getting a very broad general viewing base with maximum possible clicks. once you get a large enough following across platforms you can start going full jewberg. Clean out bots, start connecting people following you across platform. Make more precise targeting ads for higher click yields.
About 24k between them all. I was using qbasic to retweet whatever first came down the pipe, which I guess is what flagged my accounts.
I have a pretty serious day job that involves me staring at screens, I just want to shut my eyes by the time I am off the clock. I don't think spending so much time on actually participating in social media would be viable for me.
I'm up to 132 followers in 2 days. Just re-tweeted a few posts from CNBC and Wall Street Journal.
I've turned my refollow rate up by only following people that's last tweet has been within 1 day. Before it was 5-10%. Now I'm following 200 at a time and getting 25-35 new followers. Repeating 2-3 times a day.
>>614873 Sorry for so many questions and thank you for answering them; Once you unlock your account, does the limit reset itself, or will you get locked out again if you try to add more followers immediately after? Although I suppose that even if I can, it will make my account seem 'extremely' fishy if I brute force it like that. Regardless, do you know if you can?
I do this myself, make about £1200 a month for about an hours' work a day.
In the beginning, if you want to speed up the process, it's worth dropping about $100 (I spent about £50) getting about 10 accounts up to 1,000 (fake) followers with any of the services that follow that. Then you can follow/unfollow 1,000 people per account per day, which is much better than Twitter's restrictive new account policy.
Britfag? I want to do the same thing as you, but I need some startup advice.
So the easy part is setting up a website/blog/whatever and fill it up with SEO-friendly content and lots of links.
What's your method of spreading awareness of your site? Is it just Twitter, or by other means? And how many websites are you currently managing? How many different affiliate schemes are you using? And finally, can you give us a link to one of your sites?
How long did it take you to get to that level of income? Are you using Amazon or something else? Is your network Twitter accounts only or are you in other social media outlets as well? If you can earn £1200 monthly on an hour a day, what's keeping you from doubling, tripling, quadrupling your network and making some serious money?
What's a good niche to get into? I've been thinking maybe cooking, eventually linking to cooking appliances, cooking books etc. Or maybe animu, linking to DVDs, online stores etc., though I am sure that there's less material online for that. Any other ideas?
If op is still here, I have some questions, especially about the scripting part:
1. I know absolutely jackshit about scripting, but I imagine the point is that you make the script post for you right? If so, how can you make it choose a different picture every time, tweet at different intervals (you said 4-5 times/day) and add text/hashtags? Or are you doing that yourself
2. What kind of name did you use for your Twitter account? Did you pretend to be some person, or did you go for something related to what you're tweeting about?
>yfw people make piles of money -- which itself has no intrinsic balue, being overvalued fiat -- by doing insubstantial things on the web which produce no real or fungivle commodities -- vapor "services" -- while hard-working craftsmen and factory workers who actually *make* real things can barely survive.
How? Like, seriously, link please.
Alternatively, how many miles of penis did you fellate?
>>616681 I was pretty young when I played, so I was always scared to go out bucs. I would always get ganked and not be able to find a Fucking wandering healer for like 2 hours. That game was a grief machine.
>>617008 With autohotkey you really only need the very very basic stuff. All you need is basically is for example to manually go on tweepi and do everything there without using the mouse, only tab, up, down and that stuff. Then the script is really not a problem. For examle I made a very simple script that takes care of flushing all the unfollowers.
You might have to change the amount of tabs but you should get how this stuff works, it's really basic. http://pastebin.com/NXus2dqJ
Just started with my onw little niche. A lo macros set up. following a bunch of people. hitting the limit at 1k.. getting about 10 followers in return. Should i just wait a bit and than purge and repeat?
I'm picking from a pool of another users massive following.. (used the friend follow user's followers feature) I'll start following the same people I've unfollowed again.. I think. Should I just change the account I'm harvesting follows from?
Even if i make 50 bucks a month I'd be lolling at the retarded way I've done it. (too much time, too much money)
You have to give people a reason to follow you. Are you putting out quality content at a steady rate? Just finished writing a script that creates all the scripts necessary for a new account, and then plugs them into task manager. Basically just doubled my production speed.
This thread is why I want nothing to do with twitter. Creating 500k fake accounts to follow more fake accounts with ads. Nonsense. All this site does is amplify bad opinions, popularize c-list celebrities and shit like OP is doing. There is literally no value and its all going to go up in smoke one day.
Nice work OP, but I dont like the fact that your biz could be crushed without warning (and frankly it should be).
>>618297 Twitter is the chosen form of "personal" communication for most celebrities, and therefore the masses flock to Twitter to see what their favorite celebs are saying "candidly". I wish I had a dollar for every time I hear "______ posted this on twitter" on the radio and on tv.
>twitter has 284 million accounts >OP has created over 500k fake ones >assuming even 100 people are doing the same thing >50 million fake accounts >celebrity says some shit >spammers + desperate journalists + actual fans >everyone thinks it's an earthquake >same "journalists" are using attention to what people say to get page hits on their shit
The only organic people on tiwtter are hardcore fans of celebs. Everyone else is either product placement (like OP) or looking for page hits (journalists). The vast majority of the accounts are fake. It's also obvious companies like Yahoo!, Huff Post, Salon, etc.. depend highly this "non-news" news by posting articles are non-events and exclaiming that they are relevant due to twtter usage.
These are conservative estimates. I would argue twitter is massively fake.
Again, not hating. I think what OP is doing is good. Nice $ making. But it's mostly capitalizing on a few narcissists who work a min wage job and go home and tell everyone they're blessed.
>>618320 Celebrity culture has always been a hype machine where boring people pay publicists, stylists, designers and etc millions of dollars to do nothing but make them more interesting so that they can extract millions more dollars from other boring people thru movies, perfume lines, commercials, etc.
Western culture is all marketing with mediocre substance underneath
The past year has not been kind to Twitter or its shareholders. Whether it's slowing user growth, declining engagement, or questions about management's competence, Twitter bears have had plenty of negatives to feast on. Recent insider selling hasn't helped, either.
After a 40% decline in 2014, Twitter's valuation is more reasonable now than it has been for most of its time as a public company. At more than 100 times forward earnings estimates for 2015, Twitter remains an aggressively priced stock, but I still believe value can be found in its shares.
If I understand this correctly, you just use a service that can follow a person based on an algorithm that determines if they have a high chance of following you back. Leaning on the idea that once a normie follows you, they won't unfollow because they are lazy and stupid. Proceed on a massive scale until your account has tens of thousands of followers. Then, post an affiliate link when most of your followers on active and %1 of them will click through. %1-%5 percent of that initial %1 percent will actually buy something. If they do it within 48 hours, you receive a %4-%10 commission of the total amout they paid for the item.
This model becomes extremely feasible assuming 1)Twitter doesn't look at your following/follower rate and deactivate your account and 2)You have a huge following that can all be accessed at a certain time. This is a great idea but the reality is that it is very hard to pull off without hundreds of thousands of followers.
Yeah, even on the tiny chance you get a following big enough to get a good enough returns, you need to be SELECTIVE with your followers too, so they're the right sort of people who'll click on your links. This requires so much dedication, that I don't think a NEET on /biz/ could pull it off
>>618504 >you need to be SELECTIVE with your followers too, so they're the right sort of people who'll click on your links
Really? Selective with 20k people who you know nothing about, how would you do that? Are you referring to the process of gaining them in the first place or sifting and pruning through them after they join? Because once they're there you don't know very much about them especially in aggregate.
>This requires so much dedication, that I don't think a NEET on /biz/ could pull it off
Do you seriously think it's possible to "dedicate" 6 months to stalking 100,000 followers on 5 accounts to somehow determine which ones are big online spenders MANUALLY? With software it could be done but I don't understand how you're assuming a need for this fierce dedication that's needed to expertly sort through tons of online personas on a site which provides NO demographic information whatsoever to the public.
Maybe there's software that does it in a few clicks. Or maybe nobody bothers and just builds up massive followers and plays the numbers game.
It's as if you're nitpicking on something you don't even understand. Like an obstacle that isn't there.
Tweepi, the app OP uses and the app that >>618999 for some reason recommended that he scrap in favor of using Twitter's API. Except that Twitter's API requires an app too so in effect OP would be throwing away an easy to use functional app and struggling with coding his own app for no reason.
I just hit 1K followers in 5 days using Tweepi. Thanks OP. I got a lot of jailbait following me even though I was following followers of stock traders. Don't know how that happened. But no complaints here. Pic related.
For posting the actual content, i currently use Hootsuite. So basically I spend about an hour or two per account to plan the posts (manually add images + short text/tags) for the upcoming month. Is this the way to do it, or can you script this as well? (not familiar with the whole scripting thing)
>>621395 I coded my own bot in Java, but here is what it does; 1. The bot first 'clicks' and puts some text into the post. 2. The bot picks a image from a specific folder at random. If < 5mb, look for a different image. 3. The bot finds the element to upload images by classname ("file-input") and 'types' the image path into it. 3. The bot then deletes the text, and presses the post button.
I'm trying to allow my bot to work in the background of my own PC. Some website elements (Such as the posting form) will retract into their smaller forms when unclicked. But the 'Post Image' element hides when the posting form is small. Yet posting form keeps going small when 'I' am not focused on it (In the background). So to work around this, I post some text into the field first. As the posting form will not get smaller again if text is already in it. Then it types the image to upload and posts it. I also plan on having a .txt with every one of my images that I can set up and have the program check if said txt file exists, if so, use it's contents to write a post. To make it seem even less animated.
I'm using selenium as the API for my program. So, of course, depending on what you're doing, these methods might not work for you. From what I understand, alot of you are just letting a program control your mouse and keyboard than automate it from there. But saying as how I 'want' to use this PC, and I want to add some 'organic like' qualities to my bot, I'm doing it my own way instead of that. Regardless, hopefully I can be of some help.
And no, I will not upload my bot. I just finished it yesterday and I'm working out some bugs. It's also 'hardcoded' to use my PC and I don't feel like making the code portable. I also figure the more bots are available, the more this will lose it's 'value'. As well as I don't want twitter to possibly change how some things work just because of my bot going public.
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