>>1088286 If you look into who is actually affected by the price hike, it's big insurance companies and hospitals that pay the exorbitant rates - actual patients can get the drug for free if they are unable to get it otherwise (if they don't have insurance for example). His company puts that money back into R&D for new drugs.
He's literally doing what every other pharmaceutical company (Pfizer or Johnson & Johnson for example) on the planet does. Before this, you couldn't put a face to what they were doing, Shkreli however became that face. Furthermore, most people haven't even read any deeper than the mainstream media reports and political outcry to actually get the real story, so most people don't even know why they hate him.
If anything this situation has the potential to change the pharmaceutical pricing system for the better.
>>1088297 >who then spread that exorbitant cost out over insurance premiums Except his drug is a drop of piss in a very large ocean that is just a river of piss in a much larger ocean.
Doctors and hospitals take the largest chunk of insurance and are far likelier to affect premiums than drugs, especially a drug that only a very small percentage of people need. Premiums will not be affected. I suggest you do your own research and see for yourself.
>>1088297 which would have been done over a number of years by the larger companies anyway
i've seen interviews with him, and he's just some faggot troll, so i have my doubts about any altruism in his actions, but you can't buy into the media shitflinging which amounts to "how dare you disadvantage AIDS patients!" he's smart, but he's out for himself. though he did point out in that vice interview that he blames the pharmaceuticals for doing the same thing and getting away with it, and how that annoys him. so i don't know, maybe there's a good guy under all the fuckwittery.
he's shown us the frog-in-hot-water analogy. we don't give two shits if we get gouged by the pharmaceuticals in the long term, but if one upstart cranks it up to 11, all hell breaks loose.
hopefully his actions will see some reform, but i suspect he'll just be dragged through the courts and made an example out of, while the pharmaceuticals slink around in the background.
>>1088299 >his drug is a drop of piss in a very large ocean does it matter? he's still abusing the fucktarded healthcare system. what if every company pulled this shit as hard as he is? it's about the ethics.
>do your own research on what, supply and demand?
>>1088300 obv. he's a scapegoat for big pharma corps, but he's still making life harder in the immediate future for people with fucking hiv. fucks sake, where do you draw the line.
>>1088303 >he's still abusing the fucktarded healthcare system Exactly, now that it's exposed there is the potential for healthcare reform. But of course because nobody cares to read beyond CNN or Fox News, nothing will happen.
>what if every company pulled this shit as hard as he is? Guess what: they do. They just don't start live streaming themselves afterward.
>on what, supply and demand? Insurance premiums: the cost of healthcare and their effect on them.
>>1088303 >but he's still making life harder in the immediate future for people with fucking hiv.
kek, what a joke.
firstly, it's antiparasitic for treatment of toxoplasmosis, not a direct hiv treatment option, so the media reporting is intended to make you feel sorry for poor, oppressed buttpirates.
secondly, as has already been stated in this thread, it will have zero fucking impact on hiv patient insurance prices, or their treatment plans.
and didn't he, at one point, tell people they could write to him and receive the drug for free if they can't afford it?
the intention was never, ever about fucking the patient, it was exploiting the system and drawing attention to it. i'm pretty sure most of the funding is going back into the company's R&D, no it's not as if he's lining his pockets here.
>>1088307 >now that it's exposed there is the potential for healthcare reform yes but he did it in the most dickish way possible and is fucking with the meds of patients... plenty of other ways to go about this that won't land him in prison sucking dick or hated by everyone on the planet.
face it, the guy is a tool, histrionic disorder, it's all about him, and now he's going to get fucked in the ass by corps or gov because of this stunt.
>>1088313 >antiparasitic for treatment of toxoplasmosis ...used primarily in treatment of hiv complications.
>zero fucking impact on hiv patient insurance prices do you think the inflated cost of these meds to insurance, hospitals, healthcare etc. disappear up someones ass now or something?
>didn't he, at one point, tell people they could write to him and receive the drug for free if they can't afford it? do you even realize how much of a fucking chore this could be for someone with HIV? one minute you are getting your meds for a price you can afford, the next they are $750 and you have to tweet some wigger down in jew york to get him to give you something your life depends on if he can be bothered to stop listening to wu tang
>i'm pretty sure most of the funding is going back into the company's R&D jesus christ... its like hes fucking crowd funding his own philanthropy... and everybody here thinks he's le epic meme badass supervillain
>>1088317 >fucking with the meds of patients Please find me a single patient who hasn't been able to get their daraprim. I'll wait.
>land him in prison On what charges? No crime has been committed. Have you actually followed this case at all? Are you familiar with securities fraud cases in general?
Yes, he's a tool. Yes, it is a moral issue. However this happens every single day across the world. If it wasn't for the controversy being reported in the mainstream news, would you even know about this happening at all?
>>1088317 >...used primarily in treatment of hiv complications. missed the point entirely.
>do you think the inflated cost of these meds to insurance, hospitals, healthcare etc. disappear up someones ass now or something? yes. this has already been fucking explained.
>do you even realize how much of a fucking chore... boo hoo, grasping at straws.
>jesus christ... its like hes fucking crowd funding his own philanthropy... and everybody here thinks he's le epic meme badass supervillain why are you on this board? do you know anything about business?
i'm not here to convince you he's a misunderstood hero, i already said the guy's a prick. but he's not the scumbag fatcat corporate untouchable you seem to think he is.
don't hate the player, hate the game. what he did would be a net profit in terms of justice in the healthcare industry by drawing attention to the oft-exploited bullshit in healthcare and insurance law, if it weren't for the fact the deck is already stacked by the pharmaceuticals who essentially write the fucking law anyway.
>yes but he did it in the most dickish way possible and is fucking with the meds of patients oh, now i get it. back to plebbit with you.
>>1088322 >don't hate the player, hate the game >when the player is a fraudster trying to make use of revenue streams from price gouging to pay off former investors in his fund that went belly-up because of his own incompetence
>>1086853 he says that hes doing it for the greater good. if someone wants the medicine he said so himself he fill wight tooth and nail to get you that medicine for free. sounds like he wants all medicine to be free. how hes going to supply thousands of people with a drug for free confuses me.
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