Does anybody else here just want to finish school, find a decent job and buy your own house, solely to get women ?
Let's say you're awkward and ugly and it's a fact that a lot of women like men with money and status.
I'm a 23 year old virgin studying computer engineering
I'm ugly and short, so physically women HATE me, getting money improves all aspects of life, not just your ability to get women.
If I ever attract a woman with my status/wealth, it sure will be nice, but so is getting my own house and car.
Must be pretty depressing to only have women attracted to you because they want your money meanwhile cheating on you and hoping you die so they can have your life insurance monies and estate
I don't really want this desu.
So in my case, it's not that I am doing those things to get women, it is that I want to have those things BEFORE I get a woman. For instance, I graduated years ago, I have a good job, my career trajectory looks promising, and I'm planning to buy my first house this year (unless the market looks like it's about to blow out).
I could pursue a woman today. I probably could have pursued women for the past several years. But I was busy, and I still consider myself busy. The time I dedicate to finding a wife is time I'm not dedicating to having a strong foundation for that wife when I find her. When I buy the house, the last major purchase I was saving for as a bachelor will be converted into an asset, and I can turn my sights towards the ladies.
>or I can plan my track car build
I dont want to burst your bubble anon but computer engineers dont earn enough to attract a good looking woman with money.
High end what do you top out at? $340k? And thats way into your 50's.
Why would a woman date a beat up guy for mediocre money (~120k) when there are plenty of good looking guys out there earning that much?
they don't care if you're ugly if you're jacked.
honestly, a much faster and consistent way to get women would be to get jack and get tattoos.
women only go for providers when they're 30 and used up/getting old. and providers get cheated on
Women are more attracted to the confidence/security that the money provides. I'm a really average looking guy that makes around $150,000 a year at 24. I drive a 2005 Toyota, dress tastefully (avoid labels and gaudy logos like the plague), and avoid talking about money. I do very well with women. I'd chalk it up to confidence, plain and simple. I don't worry about where rent is coming from, I don't have to count my tab at the bar, and I'm not afraid to talk to anyone. People pick up on that sort of stuff. It's mostly subconscious, but you can tell when someone is successful.
You can argue correlation and causation, but it's mostly the personality type that comes from success. Try faking that. You still need some money, but you don't need to veer into conspicuous consumption.
There's another tier of woman that will be attracted to that sort of thing. They're awful. I've met several. One was having drinks with me at a bar in Hoboken, grabbed my dick under the table, and asked how much money I made in a year. I told her $500k, excused myself to go to the bathroom afterwards, and left her with the tab. You don't need that sort of shit.
I want to do all that for myself not to get women. That's actually my plan to do this and spend time with my future nieces/nephews and buy them stuff since I don't plan on having kids of my own
Whether you consider it rich or not, you need greater $ than that to pull decent tail based on the $ alone. This isn't shit tier Europe anon, American women have money of their own.
Women are attracted to power and status retard. Tons of Indian guys have steady jobs and plenty of cash but no woman wants a beta bitch boy who never asserts dominance over anything
I'm a software engineer that makes a good living. I learned the hard way that there is a pattern among american women to want to fuck around until their 30s or until they have a kid, then they become receptive to guys like me. A loser with money is still a loser. If seeking woman is what you want, going to the gym will increase your chances far better than working hard to become an engineer. It takes a lot of money to match a six pack.
This is one belief that really needs to go away.
All the dudes who are broke and score with a different chick every night are laughing at you guys. Financial security is a great thing in its own right, but not a pillar to getting laid/a gf/ a wife (though it definitely helps in keeping them)
THIS. Women are attracted to the ILLUSION of wealth, and not the wealth itself. They don't care that your BMW is about to be repossessed and your million dollar home is on it's 5th mortgage and you're on the verge of bankruptcy. It's about creating the illusion of wealth.
And before you jump at me saying I'm morally reprehensible, women create the illusion of beauty daily. They have fake tans, fake eye lashes, lip stick, high heels, hair extensions, teeth whitener, pushup bras, etc. All to create an illusion of something that's not there.
lol not true at all. I dated a multimillionaire. she said she loved me and I bailed fast. I and other men could not give a shit less about a woman's "wealth" or "power". no guy but the most beta of betas are looking for a sugarmommy.
>Let's say you're awkward and ugly
Then you should spend time becoming a more attractive person in more regards.
Pick up some hobbies, improve your fashion sense, get into good music, get some culture, get fit.
Women who like you for your money are nothing more than prostitutes. They dont even like you.
I don't know how people can go through their life content with a partner who thinks youre a rich loser.
Or you could date women with more than two braincells to rub together.
people only see what they can see, and what you show them.
The real problem is finding a woman who can handle wealth. Kiyosaki is shit but he found a decent woman.
>Every woman is attracted to weath / power at some level.
No. I've met plenty of girls who are attracted to poor guys.
My wife, for example. I met her at a big music festival when i was going through a rough patch. I was doing an IT startup, and I was struggling to afford food and rent.
She was into me because of who i am.
Now i earn millions per year, and it's great to know that has 0 impact on how she feels about me.
Sometimes I dream about being a little bit older having the kind of cash flow and connections so that I can routinely afford to treat stupid young chicks fresh outta school to doing coke and pills and partying with a "successful older guy" and thereby induce a dependency complex by which these silly young chicks come at my beck and calling.
90% of our efforts as men are to secure reproductive rights.
Don't forget it.
>you stayed with someone who only stayed with you because you got that job and could leech money off you
enjoy getting cheated on. you're the beta she gets money from, she gets sex elsewhere.
>tfw I have nothing going for me right now (other than a good looking face) and girls who have part-time and full-time jobs are flirting with me in public
>tfw who would want to date a good looking guy without a job?
>"Daddy, I want you to meet my new boyfriend Tony, he's unemployed"
>Don't have friends anymore don't have dates
At least I get looks when I'm in public
You missed the point. I'd be exactly the same at $50,000. None of the girls I'm fucking (Except one that makes more than me) know how much I make in a year. They know I wear a suit to work, don't flinch when the check comes, and have a well-appointed home. Beyond that, nothing else. I could have at that at $40-50k.
>He was also crazy and obsessed over women.
Not before he dedicated his life to having a boring, pointless well-paying job plus a dull house in the suburbs purely to attract women. It was the realization that women would rather fuck a homeless junky than a boring, safe-option wageslave.
I mean that's true to an extent, but it's also worth noting that any girl worth anything is attracted to financial stability... it's an important quality in anyone (male or female).
Any girl that will put aside other standards such as look, build, personality ect. yeah, total piece of shit.
It's doable. Not owning, but renting. I rent and could probably swing my place on $40,000 a year.
inb4 renting is for poorfags. With the corporate structure of my job, I'll advance and relocate every two years.
Solely? No. If by "get" you mean fuck, then I guess it doesn't hurt, but it's more like a side-benefit, and not even that great of one. Pussy is only a power for the one whose thighs it's between; it doesn't pay MY bills or put gas in MY tank. If anything, it's a resource-sink.
Young women give it up like it's going out of style, so women these days are essentially bound in a prisoners' dilemma where they fuck and get a short term relationship with a guy, or the guy finds another broad who will.
If you take care of yourself and make money, you can bang 25-year-olds into your 40s.
Since the sexual revolution, it's easier and easier for dudes, albeit mostly only the hotter ones, to bang fresh new pussy. In 1995, you'd have to go out to a bar to get laid. in 2008, you'd have to go through the hassle of OKCupid dates. Now you just Tinder and be banging a broad out in 45 minutes, like pizza delivery.
When women get tired of the tinder scene, they start looking for the nearest useful idiot and compiling a mile long list of requirements.
Women are the only asset in the world where the price goes up as the underlying value goes down. When they're 18, you're cool to a chick if you have a car and your own shitty apartment where you can bang her. When they're 35, you need a "respectable career" and substantial savings to buy her a house with granite counter-tops
Any man whose working to better himself with the goal of sinking it into a bitches needs to get cock-smacked.
All women are attracted to high status, and money is a direct contributor to your status in the dominance hierarchy. If a women is with a man who makes 40k, do you think her attraction would be the same or less if he made 150k? Fuck no.
You mean to say men are attracted to wealth and power in women? Fuck no.
Women have tits, ass, pussy, and eggs. They don't need any of that other shit. That's how it is. Men have to work to have value, women are born with it.