>>1051008 Hey, as long as the stock is undervalued and will be worth more later by your assessment, it is worth buying. It doesn't really matter if it dips a little more before going up. What really matters is that it will eventually be worth much more than you paid for it.
>>1051028 It's like when you have 2/5 offsuit and you fold it in Texas Hold 'Em, and A, 3,5 comes up. You can kick yourself in hindsight because you didn't win every possible hand you could've won, or you can be happy you're not losing more money in the long run by making stupid bets.
It's just as likely that things will swing back next week and you might be kicking yourself for not buying at the bottom. Realistically, your only concern should be whether or not the trade you're considering right now will be profitable or not. Nothing stops you from buying more next week if it indeed drops more.
>>1051057 Thank you, good sir. I've been responding to doom and gloom spreading trolls so long this morning that I was about to just leave the board in disgust. It's good to see that some people are actually informed on here and can take reasoned positions not made out of fear.
Thanks for restoring my faith in what has become my favorite 4chan board. I love to watch the shills and trolls fight here, but enough is enough for one morning.
>>1051195 >>1051110 >>1051057 >>1050438 >>1050313 >these are the guys who shill the value investing meme >these are the guys who sperg out whenever they see the word trading, technical analysis and anything else disproving the value investing meme >these are the guys giving advices on robinhood threads >these are the guys who didn't accumulated shorts on oil and silver all the way down, in fact they bought the "bottom" at least 10 times before getting margin called >these are the guys who got memed and put their savings in Vanguard recently
Gentlemen, you deserve all of this and more. Markets enjoy punishing retards and people who think memes are a legitimate investment technique and feel like they are Gordon Gekko just because they flipped the coin and got lucky a few times always get slaughtered.
Meanwhile, your liquidity is and has been much appreciated. I would have never managed to be up 76% on my margin account in the last two months by taking only a little risk without your precious liquidity.
Now repeat after me : value investing always works, it's impossible to beat the index, people who average 15% per month on margin accounts are frauds, indexes always go up, oil has reached the bottom, forex is a scam and whoever says otherwise is a cheater and a fraud. Now take a deep breath and use your savings to buy the dip, just like the cool guy with the tie in the TV said
>>1051110 >I've been responding to doom and gloom spreading trolls so long this morning that I was about to just leave the board in disgust. It's good to see that some people are actually informed on here and can take reasoned positions not made out of fear.
This board is just shit. Just leave(as I am going to do after today).
It used to be ok ~1 year ago when overwhelming majority of people here simply dollar cost averaged into index funds/ETFs instead of retarded ethereum or timing the market or whatever /r9k/ suggests now.
>>1051230 Not necessarily. If you have analytical tools to estabilish the primary direction, you can fade the move on lower timeframes and get back on the main trend. But if the main trend is compromised, buying the dip will just provide anybody who has an idea of what's happening liquidity to get out.
But go tell that to the average biz user who starts having seizures when he hears about active investing. Good thing a lot of people here are going to suck dicks for a living in a few days, hopefully this will keep them busy long enough to free this board and good riddance
>started saving monthly on index funds almost exactly a year ago >investments down almost 10% now >simply don't give a damn, will continue saving monthly during the dip and after it for decades to come
>>1051224 > being this autistic and wrong lmao Post your "+76%" faggot.
Also "shorting" oil is the single most retarded thing I've ever heard. You short individual companies you think are going down. If you think an entire industry is going into a downturn you invest in an inverse leveraged ETF and make MULTIPLES back on a downturn, e.g. 3x from $DWTI, while simultaneously protecting yourself from the literally infinite losses resulting from a bad short.
You're such an obvious /pol/ poster, coming here to post "happenings" so you can feel better about having bought intrinsically worthless metals like gold and silver.
>>1051321 Average joe has no clue on how to determine market value. And even if he does, markets are susceptible to mispricing. If the majority thinks a certain stock is going to crash, then the stock is going to crash and bring the underlying with it, no matter how valuable or how much potential it has.
Also volatility. Passive investing (especially index funds) can lead to scary, sudden drawdowns you have absolutely no control over. When actively investing you can manage volatility along the way, and even better with trading on margin if you know what you are doing. Pic related, even two bullshit moving averages beat the index >>1051601 Shut the fuck up fag,when seriously managing money there is no space for "thinking", just statistics and analysis, and then you make decisions. There is no "think", you have to be able to identify entries and exits on the markets you are trading, or if you really want to invest you use options.
Oh and btw i'm short gold, gonna add another position on the close
>>1051635 The best active traders short during these markets and make money on falling prices. Passive investors just buy regardless and 'lose' money during downturns, but tend to make up for it in the long run, although with far reduced returns than (good) active investors.
Shit investors buy high and sell low. Case in point: most of /biz/.
>savings is healthy enough to last me 10 months with no job and no unemployment >current income will have me debt free by july >IRA is way down but whatever >have $150-200/month I could put into my roth
I think I will do it. Stocks are on sale. Assuming some board room execs 4 companies up the supply chain don't freak out and cancel orders my job should be safe.
>>1051615 Judging by the picture, you are attempting to prove, that the "Mac-system" beats SPY. Is the "Mac-system" some sort of ETF, that automatically longs and shorts stocks, whenever the technical indicators tell it to, or is it managed by an actual person. If it is managed by an actual person, then couldn't it mean, that the person is good at judging the "prevailing market emotions" and unwittingly follows the indicators, that confirm his current bias, which so happens to be correct more often than not, since to person is experienced at predicting/following market reactions? And if it is the computer automatically trading, then why don't people have the computer automatically do it without them participating at markets?
I DON'T WANNA LOSE MY JOB IF I LOSE MY JOB I WILL DIE NO ONE LOVES ME NO ONE WILL HELP ME NO ONE WILL FEED ME NO ONE WILL LET ME SLEEP ON THEIR PROPERTY I WILL HAVE NOTHING I'LL SPEND ALL MY MONEY AND KILL MYSELF
>>1051720 Just a sample, easy crossover of two moving averages. That's it. No investment advice, just a proof of concept, an example You're just throwing a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify how useless and damaging passive investing on index funds is. Indices are used as a benchmark, not as an investing tool.
And no biases, no other senseless idiocies you have been blabbering. Just mechanical, rule based systems. I'm sure you are familiar with Richard Dennis, just to make an example
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