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I'm afraid of choosing the wrong major, MIS or CIS.
I want to do db stuff, I'll get my oracle cert, etc. But I'm not 100% sure if that's what I'll enjoy doing 10 years from now.
Which major leads to more opportunities and/or is more desirable in grads?
I have an associate's in business administration and about a year's worth of classes that can go either to mis or cis. It's time now to finally make a decision and I'm pulling my hair out.

>MIS curriculum: https://rap.psu.edu/recommended-academic-plan-management-information-systems-misbd-penn-state-erie-behrend-college-0

>CIS curriculum: https://rap.psu.edu/information-systems-infsy-recommended-academic-plan
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>>1045199
>CIS curriculum: https://rap.psu.edu/information-systems-infsy-recommended-academic-plan
Why would someone who studies information systems take classes on humanities, arts and other irrelevant subjects?
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>>1045202
My guess is because being well rounded individual is not a bad thing, but ultimately it's money of course.
I don't mind taking humanities, arts, sciences, etc.
Personally, I think it's quite pathetic when a person only knows their field of work and completely oblivious to everything else. You cannot really converse with this person about anything but his niche interests and his field of work.
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>>1045199
CIS is better.

The more math and CS theory you learn the better.

You need to know what sets, Cartesian products etc. are before you know what a relation is. You need to know what a relation is to know a relational database like Oracle.
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>>1045218
>Personally, I think it's quite pathetic when a person only knows their field of work and completely oblivious to everything else.
True, but I don't think a few courses will help with that. It's a matter of if that person has an intrinsic interest in things
I think high school should give a wide education and then in uni you specialise
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>>1045231

This guy knows what's up.

Even though I myself am going more into the business analysis side of IS, it never hurts to have more quantitative stuff under your belt, and you can broaden your horizons in humanities by reading in your own time.

If you're tearing your hair out at this point, go with CIS.
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>>1045218
>Personally, I think it's quite pathetic when a person only knows their field of work and completely oblivious to everything else. You cannot really converse with this person about anything but his niche interests and his field of work.
AKA Everyone I've talked to who went to a "top 10" tech school. All they want to talk about is either the latest Meme.JS language or argue about Linux distros. Try talking to them about the world at large and they regurgitate the talking points from Uber's/Google's/Dropbox's PR department or some venture capitalist. They can't even comprehend the true impacts of their work.

People love to shit on me for going to a Lutheran liberal arts college. But, you know what, at least I know where I will be valued instead of wasting my life pissing money at my problems while sucking the cock of some corrupt CEO.
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>>1045199
so i'll give you the argument for mis. i have a degree in mis; graduated in 2006. i made ~245K in 2015. don't do anything remotely related to mis anymore. but got this job b/c i was brought on board to work on the data tracking tool the company used, and i learned the business and tool well enough to turn it into a widely respected and utilized data set for management decision making. they realized i learned the business so well they moved me to the revenue generating team. the skills i learned taking classes on how to be a bsa and data relationships are what gave me the tools to figure this shit out.
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>>1045218
You could be well rounded without paying for a few extra courses. Don't fall for memes.
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>>1045519

Hi. I'm the anon starting a MIS degree this year. Any other tips you can give me to succeed?
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>>1045525
most of this stuff is more for the corporate world; dont' remember a whole lot of college (chose the degree b/c it was literally the easiest thing i thought i could get a job doing)

>ask a metric fuck-ton of questions, but try not to ask the same question twice.
>be sociable with everybody. the most important people to have like you are as-likely to be the admins as they are the executives, and you'll never know whose more important until after first impressions have been established
>learn to manage up. that means setting and understanding clear expectations, delivering whenever possible, owning mistakes, and clarifying rather than assuming
>in the corporate world, you don't get promoted before you prove you can handle the job. if you want to become X, prove you can do the work required of X, and then you're likely to get moved into the role. often this means doing your day job plus extra; it sucks, but its worth it.
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>>1045530

Ok, thanks (same anon, different PC). I'm a bit socially awkward but I already work about 50 hours per week at the job I currently have (so about two hours overtime each day) and deliver about around about 2.5x what I'm actually required to, so I hope that in the long run my diligence and work ethic will make up slightly for my difficulties with "schmoozing" and all that, which I can do if I make the effort but don't really enjoy.

Is it worth my while to learn programming in my free time or is there something else I could be doing to better improve my skill set? If you don't mind revealing this, which role did you end up moving into and is this something I could prepare for as a career goal?

I just want a job that challenges me and lets me provide for my family.
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Is a Finance/ CIS degree god tier?
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>>1045537
my career's pretty niche, so i'd rather not put it out there, but suffice it to say i wouldn't take my path - it's more or less un-repeatable.

the socially awkward thing is important to overcome, as in many of the roles you might want to transition to, you'll have to be reasonably competent dealing with clients (either internal or external). you don't have to become lifelong friends, but building from small talk to more substantive relationships is important
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>>1045367
I kind of relate to this. There's too much talk of meme.js and of popular companies now adays, while talking about other things leads to really shallow conversations. But you meet some cool people here and there.
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>>1045367
Wooop Lutheran liberal arts college!
Hillsdale?
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any cis or mis grads here with some insight for fresh grads or soon to be grads?
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>>1045218
>being well rounded individual is not a bad thing
right, but why are you taking those stupid courses that do nothing but brainwash you?
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I was about to say is dula majoring in accounting and finance
Or accounting and CIS the better degree
The CIS sounds interesting to me and the accounting is for practical purposes.
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>>1046022
Sorry dual
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