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am i retarded for thinking this? can anyone help make sense of it?
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>>1044446
Buy the dip
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>>1044446
Not exactly. If you're looking to invest, I would just DCA when the S&P falls below 1500. It's too difficult to time the market when the fed is still pushing QE and engaging in stock manipulation. The problem is that stocks might not decline below 1500 for a year or even two years from now. It could even be a decade from now.
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>>1044446
Yes.

This one is going to be the end of the U.S. dollar,

a huge currency crisis,

shit is going to happen that is way worse than 2008 and 2001 combined
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>>1044446
omnomnomnom
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>>1044600
man i fucking hope so
i hope everyone's lives are ruined forever
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>>1044600
bears been saying collapse for years. in 2010 the dow was at 10k now its at 16k and i lost 6k.

the central banks can control the economy
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>>1044933
>in 2010 the dow was at 10k now its at 16k and i lost 6k upside.

i meant to say
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>>1044446
No you're not OP. The strong US dollar is going to kill earnings for US corporations with operations overseas. We're on a downtrend and it will be for awhile. I generally agree with your chart.
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>>1044933
It's at 15k now my nigga

it is happening, Schiff was right
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>>1044600
>end of us dollar

money literally fleeing to dollar and jpy from eur, aud, gbp. i would say this is the "beginning" of usd
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Yes. The fact that you're interpreting a graph without any statistical representation shows how much of an autist you are. Just give up on the day trading meme
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>>1045251
are you retarded or jewish?

one of the two,

either way, you're a subhuman
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>>1044460
>when the fed is still pushing QE
QE ended in 2014. You're kinda stupid.
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>>1045272
>QE ended in 2014.
lmao, ok buddy
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>>1045292
>Purchases were halted on 29 October 2014[63] after accumulating $4.5 trillion in assets.[64]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing

lmao, ok retard
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>>1045297
prepare for QE4 faggot

keep all those fiat bills
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>>1045300
shut up fag. >>>/pol/ is over there.
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>>1045310
holy shit i actually didn't think real jews browsed /biz/

>>1045310
go to >>>/zionism/
>>>/trash/
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>>1044929
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>>1045338
i mean, we kinda of deserve it

we are 18 trillion in debt and have been leaving way above our means


we have to take the pain sometime, 2008 was just kicking the can down the road

2016 is it
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>>1045348
Compared to the US GDP its not really THAT much debt, at least compared to other countries. The interest on the debt is still record low, and inflation is not high. The deficit is decreasing, so what's the big problem?
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>>1045310
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>>1045360
>The deficit is decreasing, so what's the big problem?
lol i hope you own gold, the federal reserve is about to burst, and it is magnitudes larger than any bubble we have ever seen
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>>1045360
/pol/fags don't understand debt to GDP ratio. Just pat their head like a little kid and move on. If they wanna blow their money on gold, let them.

Enjoy transaction and storage fees on your "investment", kiddies.
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>>1044446
>>ITT: permabear circkle jerk
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>>1045268
>87's gonna be the year!
>93 - innawoods we go!
>Y2K WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN
>08 i hope you sold your house like i told you to a month after the crash
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>>1044933
>Durr
The US rate target has been 0% since 2008. 0%. They just adjusted it.
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>>1044446
Nice trend lines there pham
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>>1045251
>gbp market is failing
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>>1045412
what is that graph showing
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>>1044460
Its going to be under 1500 by end of 2016.
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I'll say this once.

Long TVIX.
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>>1044600

Not that time yet anon.

Soon.

> Market will go up n' down till beginning of feb, overall down.
> Market will raise up throughout year after that.

Take it or leave it...
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>>1045452
Bet that shit will go negative in the next few years
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>>1046929
Wsb pls go.
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>>1045416
>/pol/fags don't understand debt to GDP ratio
/pol/fag here. I understand that the debt to GDP ratio is currently approaching WWII levels, despite not being involved in the largest military conflict in history (or anything approaching it)
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>>1044446
no, we're at the end of a long bull market, it might not end up looking like this though, more like that
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since the thread is already full of jew memes, let me post a good one
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>>1045220

lets be fair.

It's like 15,961
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>>1047446
yea, but it is in 15k range

let's be fair
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>>1045360
> In 2013, United States public debt-to-GDP ratio was 71.8%, according to the CIA World Factbook, or 104.5%, according to the IMF including external debt.

lmao, RIP United States
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>>1045272
>>1044460
>confuses QE with FED interest rate policy
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Liquidity is shit. Like never been this shit. Vola will be big now and future. This is completely normal these days. It's big money only, retailers arent even in the market so you can be 100% sure it bounces back before you even realize. I sure hope you didnt sell.
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>>1045272
>and its never ever coming back right Janet?

This board is depressing, you goys are all retarded. Its like going on /k/ and hearing asinine arguments for gun control.

How do you not understand the point of that program was re inflating stock prices, and when they fall again, Mrs.old jew will start up the presses again to make sure Obama doesn't get blamed


>HURR DURR WHAAAT?!? :DDD LOL ECONOMY FIXED NO MORE NEED FOR QE RIGHT GUYS?? :DD
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>>1048714
>How do you not understand the point of that program was re inflating stock prices
Are you actually this retarded? The point of QE was to raise banking liquidity and facilitate the stagnant credit markets. The Feds don't manipulate the stock market, no matter how shiny your tinfoil fedora may be.

Leave /biz/. Dummies not wanted.
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>>1048730

>The Feds don't manipulate the stock market


>implying that Fed rate cuts have no effect on the economy
>implying that pumping more money into the economy doesn't affect the stock market
>implying that bailouts didn't save a few of the big banks (and plenty smaller ones) (I know this isn't "the Fed" per se.. but the Federal government)
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>>1048762
>implying that Fed rate cuts have no effect on the economy
Changing the money supply and credit markets directly affects the economy. I never said otherwise.

Faggot.

>implying that pumping more money into the economy doesn't affect the stock market
I never said QE didn't have an effect on the stock market. I said it wasn't the Fed's intent to manipulate the market, which is true.

Faggot.

>implying that bailouts didn't save a few of the big banks (and plenty smaller ones) (I know this isn't "the Fed" per se.. but the Federal government)
That not QE, which was the discussion topic here. Or do you just jump into threads and post whatever bullshit leaks out your ass?

Faggot.
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>>1045264
>implying those indicators mean shit
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>>1048765
>it wasnt the FED's intention to manipulate the market

are you seriously saying that they did this out of incompetence? what kind of a retard are you?
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>>1048783
>are you seriously saying that they did this out of incompetence?
Shut up fag. Who said anything about incompetence? The Fed intended to increase the money supply and ease the credit market. They accomplished exactly what they set out to do. With the foreseeable, not undesirable, but not intended, effect of elevating the stock market (and the markets for other financial assets too).

Stop being such a clueless fuckwit. If you can't speak intelligently about a topic, then shut your cock-sucking mouth.
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>>1048788
do you honestly believe the Phds at the Fed didnt think that their credit expansion will affect stock market prices? stop being so fucking narrow minded they increase money supply for a reason. they knew what was coming
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>>1048813
What part of "foreseeable, not undesirable, but not intended" did you not understand? Use a fucking dictionary next time, shortbus. I don't have time to teach children.
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>>1048860
>I don't have time to teach children.
What a busy guy kek
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>>1045251
What about the BRICS? Serious question, their NDB is starting up this month and they are actively trying to topple the USD as reserve currency. You don"t think they will?
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>>1044446
Communism failed in the early 90s, globalization continues to expand with Africa being next (hopefully). All this means is that capitalism is the winner now, and the markets should behave the way you predict long term.

Only thing to change this is WW3 or a global political shift
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>>1044933
>the central banks can control the economy

Yet everything goes to shit when they hike rates just .25%
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So, I was thinking: all that QE money seemed to just go into the stock market. That's why we didn't see any inflation from it, right? It was locked up in stocks.
So now if stocks crash and that money gets pulled out, will we then see some real inflation?
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>>1047308
>MFW USA is fucked and I'm sat here in the UK with my graph like...
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>>1049707
What's that look like in 2015?
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>>1045412
shut up retard
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>>1049282
>So, I was thinking: all that QE money seemed to just go into the stock market.
No dummy, that's not how qualitative easing works. NONE of the "QE money" went into the stock market.

ALL of the QE money (which was really limited to Operation Twist, and not any of the QE rounds) went to purchasing treasuries and other financial assets from banks. This increase in demand for fixed-income securities drove down the interest rates, making bonds less attractive to consumers and less desirable as a store of value. As retail and institutional demand shifted to equities, prices rose.

This is elementary monetary policy stuff. If you're going to try discussing the Fed and QE with adults, at least try to grasp the basics.
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>>1049282
If the market crashes that will practically wipe out trillions and probably contract the currency supply?

My guess is the guy Mike Maloney had on is right, deflation first followed by inflation.
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