>>1042095 >pay a college grad what a grade 9 dropout shovel-wielder would have earned 40 fucking years ago (in real terms of course) >surprised you can only attract bottom of the barrel trash You get what you pay for you retarded fuckbag.
Sleeping on the job or worse, goofing off on the job and not manning their post. It's literally the easiest and most permissive job in the world. You could do your job, browse the internet all day, and get paid to do it.
>>1042095 Because noone gives a f... about your brilliant business except for yourself. If you want to make them give a f... there's three options - make them partners (stock), pay them well (above median), or slavery (difficult one atm).
>The pay is consistent with the skill level not to mention pays above the skill level So $8-$12 an hour. Those jobs are a dime a dozen in some areas. People can't afford anything on that wage so they're not motivated to keep it, and if they lose it they can fairly easily get another one, or go on unemployment and get paid roughly the same to sit at home and browse 4chan.
Just the way it is. You might have better luck with people who are usually considered unemployable: autists, downies, the extremely elderly, non-english speakers or felons.
>>1042162 Why aren't university students mature enough for it? I did something equivalent in skill in my countries busiest trauma/emergency surgery and was by far the most effective employee. Don't be bias against people getting a degree, the ones that need to work often don't have time to be immature
And that is your answer right there. You arent going to find great employees paying that little. I run a shipping department of 30 packers and loaders who all make 8.90 an hour. Its just understood and accepted that we are going to have a 40% turn over rate every year. Guys making that kind of money will change jobs for 10 cents an hour. They will also call in constantly, want to leave early, and generally dont give a shit about only taking 30 minutes a day for lunch.
>>1042160 >go on unemployment and get paid roughly the same to sit at home and browse 4chan.
A while back I was making $11/hr which came out to ~$350 a week after taxes. When I got laid off PA unemployment was giving me $210/wk without taxes being withheld. I would not say a 40% drop in income is making the same money.
Either pay more to attract real people or screen your applicants better. But night shift workers are historically the bottom of the barrel. It's like society literally doesn't want them to see the light of day.
Hire a disabled person. Somebody with no legs but all their marbles. You get a tax break too IIRC. Or break it into small chunks and make it a part-time job, hire a bunch of seniors each working a couple hour shifts a week.
>>1042095 >staying up and being alert during a graveyard shift, which is known to cause health problems, is the easiest job in the world
being a watchman is easy, but you're asking people to fuck over their sleep and health for you. If you want people to actually make an effort to destroy themselves, you should compensate them for the damage they are inflicting on their body.
I dunno OP. I'm pretty responsible, don't need much money, and would love to get paid to do what I love (browsing 4chan at night). I might just look into this after I've saved up a good chunk of cash from my software job and look for somewhere to settle down. Are there any certifications are other credentials required for this sort of work?
And are there other jobs like this? Sounds like a fantastic way to focus on self-improvement for a year or so without having to burn through my savings.
>>1042162 >9.5/HR and Phoenix, AZ Holy shit. I make more than that working part-time at a grocery store. And you want somebody to do basically low level police work (guard stuff from crooks) at weird hours for that?
>>1045222 Small retailer. Still a side gig (work in IT for real) but growing. I'd love to be able to hire somebody to help with some stuff but I feel like it's my responsibility to be able to provide enough hours and stability before I ask somebody to make a commitment to work for me. When I absolutely need another body, like at a trade show or something, I pay all expenses for a friend or relative to come with me.
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