>Graduate Chemical Engineer last year >Went into it because I actually enjoy math and chemistry >Also had the added perk of being well paid >Zero (0) jobs available now >"Well see, this is why you go into something you love!"
Fuck this world, I'm gonna become a cop because at least with unemplyoment rising, they will be in demand.
>>1040458 Probably not if you enjoy it and put in the work.
I've been sitting on my bachelor's in Pharmaceutical Sciences since Spring 2014. Originally went into it because "chemistry is interesting and I want to help people" ($$) and because of the university meme/sham.
>Didn't realize until Fall 2014 that I hated myself and had no interest in what I was doing. >Somehow managed to graduate. >Too lazy/stupid/scared to apply for grad school for Fall 2015 or Fall 2016. >Have only applied to a handful of entry level jobs with no luck. >Haven't studied/worked on anything remotely related to chemistry since graduation. >University claims high job placement. >Received no help and no prospects besides mass emails notifying of resume workshops and Grad program showcases.
What's worse is the field I want to get into isn't at all economically viable. Would have to have Bruce Lee tier discipline/attitude to make something of myself.
My parents have put up a lot to see me this far. I've let them all down. Considering anhero.
>>1040458 STEM is absolute shit. I'm an engineer and have been unemployed for 4 years. My chemical engineer friend works at walmart. The economy is fucked. Only medical doctors are the ones getting real jobs
lol, a woman my mom bought her house from had a PhD in chemistry and was selling real-estate.
Capitalists are disconnected from reality, ultimately their arguments are motivated by maintaining their own wealth because they have profited from the current system. They won't accept that just happen to have been lucky.
Getting a job isn't about 'getting a degree', 'working hard', 'study something useful' lol. It's about connections. If you want a job you gotta go out, party, and meet tonnes of people. Sorry that you guys fell for the memes.
>>1040921 >I was dumb enough to go through 4 years without an internship. I was dumb because I felt no one would want to hire someone who studied Bioengineering from a SUNY.
It's almost like you wanted to fuck up. I filled about a hundred applications in a single day, that's all it fucking took and now I have a stacked resume with internships and great offers.
I don't understand how people can study a hard fucking degree for years but can't spend a few hours or days mindlessly grinding out applications. (I did so while stoned out of my mind) Those intern applications are way more fucking important than anything else.
>hurr durr you're unemployed bcuz you didn't study STEM >hurr durr you're unemployed bcuz you didn't try hard enough as a STEM major. This board is fucking hystrical. There are no STEM jobs. As a whole STEM is going to downsize in the next ten years. Look up the BLS stats on STEM jobs. Only two jobs are doing well. Civil Engineering, and Data monkeys. There are a lot of of unemployed experienced STEM workers. Most just end up in sales/marketing because its often more stable than STEM.
>>1040517 I'm one worse on you. I did Bioe because I figured coming from a good university I could go into a less developed field and still live comfortably. The kicker is a took a bunch of comp bio and cs courses too. It's a pain in the ass to watch people that you're smarter than shrug off 6 figure job offers. I guess they were smart about the one decision an 18yo makes that matters.
Almost minimum wage is better than minimum wage though, so I guess I'll still have to do life sciences until I can transition into an actual career or maybe I'll be lucky enough to get experience I can leverage into an mba and consulting gig or read into ip law.
>>1042688 >I studied math and make 215k annually as an actuary. It's easy, i have no college debt, and I will never be unemployed. Do tell? It's a profession I'm planning to chase, any idea where I can get some good info or advice or anything? I'm thinking of lurking Actuarial Outpost.
>>1040495 some people (like doctors) actually give a shit about helping people and being "useful". A lot of STEMfags are autists who think they will be able to secure a $100k+ starting salary with zero connections or experience
>>1044463 I went to the hospital today to see my father (very sick) and I was really really impressed with doctors and nurses; their work looked really interesting. I think I chose the wrong career path.
>>1044894 Then you realize that becoming doctor involves not only having a bachelors like every other STEM fucker, but going through a rigorous application process that takes a year of your life and a lot of your money.
And that's just to GET IN (assuming you get in on your first try).
Then you have your pre-clinical years, rotations, residency, fellowship, CME's, malpractice, and getting fucked in the ass by insurance companies. All while in debt.
No lie, shit is interesting as fuck, even benign shit like some guy coming in for eating too many pot brownies.
I just got into medical school, this has been a very trying year of my life. But thank god I got in on my first try.
>>1042979 I don't know how it is now but 15 years ago there were nearly zero opportunities for CS internships. Every now and then one would come up like "be on call 24/7 for maybe 5 scattered hours of fixing PCs with your own tools and your own car up to 100 miles away." I finally got an internship with state government but Republicans and their starvation budgets have put the screws to stuff like that. They used to hire CS students at $10/hr to do little programs that staff was too busy to do. Dept got needed tools, student got needed experience, win win. Now they just lay off half the staff and hire Indians at $300/hr to crap all over everything for years and years. Too much corruption from being "partners" with crapitalists.
There are good-paying STEM jobs for people with a BSCS who know their shit. Currently even people who fall below that criteria. Even in bad times BSCS people will have jobs, ones who know what they're doing. This has been the case since the 1970s and will continue to be.
There is a hell of a lot of learning and so forth to get to that point though. You have to go to college and learn calculus and discrete math and theory of computation for a year or two, then learn data structures and algorithms for a year, then learn languages like Java, then take some electives in ML, graphics etc.
You're still early on after that.
It takes a hell of a lot of work to get to where you're fairly secure during hard times. You have to enjoy it on some level (not all of it all the time, but...)
>>1045660 >You're right, don't Brits just do it all via college credit? I'm ignorant of the specifics Nah, we usually have to leave uni with an appropriate degree (although I don't think there's an actual requirement on what degree you have, but for obvious reasons maths, stats or actuarial science seem to be the most common, although I've yet to see any stats on it) and then do 15 exams with the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries (IFoA).
>>1045865 >The exam and education process is largely divorced from the actual work - exams are meant to weed out the dumb people. beanactuary,org is a start I've heard that that's only true in America. Mostly because your actuarial societies don't trust your fucking universities.
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