All the people that paid taxes fled the city, the only people left where wellfare queens and gangsters, neither of which pay taxes, but they break a lot of shit.
So now the city has a lot of broken shit and no tax revenue.
Detroit is kind of a microcosm of America post hillary- all the wealthy tax payers will flee in fear/protest, and leave human trash behind, and human trash NEEDS the rich and hardworking to pay for their lives
I've heard there are people in Detroit whom have never seen a white person in the flesh. I've heard it's a large, violent open air drug market loaded with prostitutes who suck dick for practically nothing.
The documentary Detroit Murder City was entertaining.
Capital left--workers had too much bargaining power, old manufacturing models were struggling to keep up with more efficient Japanese models of production, containerization was just going into full swing to allow overseas trade to operate at reasonable costs.
Industry made Detroit and capital left it and its corpses behind once it was no longer profitable.
>>1036238 Black people got fucked all around the US.
Blacks used to occupy all the low skilled positions in both rural and urban areas that Whites did not want to do: fruit pickers, farmhands, house maids, drivers,cooks, butlers, landscapers etc. In cities they also worked low skilled jobs in manufacturing. In Detroit of course, they worked mostly in the auto industry.
Starting around the culmination of the Civil Rights movement, the US started opening up trade with Southeast Asia, especially Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Singapore. This lead to massive layoffs in American manufacturing as factories moved overseas. At the same time, Mexicans started to mass migrate into the US and inundate the traditional black professions.
Blacks couldn't move forward, since manufacturing was dead and they were stuck in shitty guetto schools due to blockbusting and white flight. And they couldn't move back to the rural areas because Mexicans had completely taken over their traditional jobs.
And then the crack cocaine and war on drugs happened.
It's either an unfortunate set of circumstances, or the meticulous work of the US government.
>>1036238 Also the government is crooked. Monies that were to be used to fixed things like the library were stolen by the gov't workers. Millions of dollars taken I have read. The Detroit urbex has a ton of pictures of abandoned buildings.
>>1036244 You're right about the eroding tax base, but many Detroiters are doing alright. Lots of blight, for sure, but most non criminal locals (95% of the population) are more self reliant than the wealthy suburban masses. There is no wealthy taxbase in Detroit to pay for the lives of anyone, desu
>>1036248 Liberal labor policy is literally the only thing keeping Detroit alive.
This is a vague statement. a few city blocks may be nice, there may even be some solid suburbs but you can't hinge the success and health of a city on those things.
Detroit has lost a lot of the industries and corporations that made it prosperous.It needs the corporations to return with their massive office parks and thousands of employees with their disposable income to make the city well again.
The problem there is that the north and those great lakes cities are essentially fucked. The cost of living is too fucking high to make any of these companies want to move in. If they did, they would only do so because of massive tax incentives, which would only stall the immediate problems with the city from being fixed which would in turn make less companies want to set up shop without massive tax incentives which, once again, doesn't fix the problem.
>>1036606 The way American unions work is shit, but the people on the other end of this argument are far worse. The unions did take concessions when they needed to. They can't be blamed for the corporate greed that led to job loss in a more globalised economy. What they can be blamed for is making workers fucking lazy.
>>1036617 Want to know something funny? Owsley county in kentucky is the poorest county in america, it's a small county that lost it's energy sector jobs and is 99% white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owsley_County,_Kentucky >According to the 2010 census reports, Owsley County has the second highest level of child poverty of any county in the United States. In terms of income per household, the county is the poorest in the nation.
Yet even in their poverty the county doesn't have major crime issues. Their crime rates are lower than average.
>>1036238 >ecconomy based almost entirely on the auto sector >asian factories got high tech, paid lower wages and flooded the market >massive job losses in detroit >anyone who was skilled move elsewhere >anyone with savings moved elsewhere >nothing for the government to invest in, the town becomes a welfare black hole >housing prices crash because nobody wants to live there and so many places are unocupied >unocupied properties taken over by squatters, land prices fall further
and ta-da, detroit
the government could have A. invested in the auto tech boom and put people out of work early, rather then keep people in work and ruin the competitiveness
B.inulate the US market by imposing tarifs on foreign cars american motorists pay more, but GM doesn't go bust
C. had a plan to re-skill auto workers, many countries struggle with this-maybe it's not feesible
D. stop people moving there, make it a special economic zone, go full communist
It simple why detroit failed. Detroit was a large industrial city. Many people moved to detroit for jobs blacks and whites. The major companies left and/or down sized. This caused lay offs and unemployment, so workers decided to leave for better financial opportunities. The majority of whites left because they could afford it and because they were opportunist. The majority of black got left behind because they could not afford to move and settled. This is similar to what happened in hurricane katrina, in that the poor black did not have the money to move, so they stayed and tryed to wait out the hurricane. But this only lead to disastrous results.
The monstrous decay is caused solely by a lack unemployment opportunities. If the major corporatio s moved back and made it a full on industry capitol again, the city would shape up quickly. But this will not happen because the corporations are racist and detroit is stigmatized as a black poor city. Everyone hate detroit because everyone hate detroit.
>>1036617 Theres always at least one Africa Thread on >>>/his/ about all the various empires and civilizations you never heard about in school, go over and check it out, Herr Adolf american blacks and blacks in the rest of the world are entirely different.
>>1036617 Africa has had many functioning governments throughout history. They were no Europe, but the people were happy, and they were actual governments, with an ability to exert their power, and force their hands in day to day affairs (i.e. actually govern). Anyways, most of Maryland's upper-middle class towns are 40-60% black. >>1036628 The Baltimore riots, unlike Ferguson, weren't because of the shooting, despite what people believe. The local youth decided that since all the police would be at the protests to make sure they didn't get out of hand, they could fuck shit up without consequences. >>1036650 This.
>>1036421 But those blacks are like gypsies and feminists. Gypsies also have special status in my country, they are our niggers.
Anyway. Same shit. They could easily get paid just because they go to school, yet they refuse to. They could get accepted to any university, but they dont even try. Workplaced would get tax refunds, bonus and shit, yet gypsies don't even try to go there.
All they want to do is collect benefits, and do "black" low-iq jobs like collecting leaves. Black as in they don't pay taxes, they are officially jobless, and they get paid by the employee on a daily basis. Its like .... an illegal job? (English is not my first language, sorry.)
Feminists cry about how there are no wymin in STEM, yet most women pick shit tier education, like feminism itself, or marketing, or any similar useless bullshit.
I think that crime can be caused by a lot of factors, but I think that the most important factor in most cases is crime becoming more socially acceptable. So when crime is becoming a trend in a group, people in that group tend to join. Then if it isn't stopped you get a snowball effect.
I don't know if this is true, this is just an observation.
Unions but not in the way people think-in the 70s-80s unions had the chance to lead their members in buying stock in their own companies but they chose not to so they ended up being helpless when companies chose to leave. This happened recently when the GM union sold the shares of stock they got from Obama's bankruptcy deal.
>>1036851 Happiness is subjective. The people in question may not have had the same technology as Europe, but that doesn't mean they were miserable all the time. For the second part of your answer, the crime is about the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf,_Maryland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowie,_Maryland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel,_Maryland
>>1036256 I live in this shit city and make well beyond to move to a far better city in or out of state but stupid family. However I truly agree with this statement it's not racist its the truth. Dont get me wrong there are others that make and help it be shit however for the most part ya this.
>>1036667 1. No 2. Wrong 3. No 4. Wrong Spin it however you want to no one wants to come/work etc in a crime ridden city. Because of mostly African Americans and of course others however for the most part them. I lived in this shit city all my life so i know what the heck I'm talking about.
Directly across the river is Windsor, Canada, which has a negligible murder rate lower than many of Canada's other cities. I read a few pieces that chalk it up to strict anti gun laws keeping Canadians safe :^)))))
>>1037369 That's more of a /pol/ thing. But there are places in the US with stricter laws than Canada and 5 times the enforcement dollars, and hundreds of miles to the nearest border, so it's not easy to just have shit cross over. The great lakes is a very weak border to smuggling. And you can compare some other cross border cities like Vancover/Seattle ect, ect.
Because this is biz, use a different approach. Take a google streetview and zillow view on some dense urban property, and some high crime property. You can see differences that have absolutely nothing to do with guns, and is overwhelmingly about the culture of the people there.
>>1036667 Same thing happened to Pittsburgh. Steel industry left town and they could have sunk or swum. They still had the genetic capital to change direction, overcome adversity and thrive. Don't here of no white flight in Pittsburgh do you? Why? Two very similar situations. two very different outcomes.
>All they want to do is collect benefits, and do "black" low-iq jobs like collecting leaves. Black as in they don't pay taxes, they are officially jobless, and they get paid by the employee on a daily basis. Its like .... an illegal job? (English is not my first language, sorry.)
>>1036667 Do you live here in Detroit? I do and there is nothing racist about most of what i being posted. I have black friends and not all black people are bad, but here in Detroit there is a large majority of trashy black ghetto pieces of shit who prey on one another. There are neighborhoods where you can not park your car for more than ten minutes without the windows being smashed out. These cars are rundown older models with nothing of value inside and belong to people who try to work a normal job and contribute to society. Come live here for a couple weeks and tell me we are wrong. You would probably call home crying after your first night.
I appreciate both sides of every argument in this thread except one. You guys who think welfare queens don't exist... How over privileged are you? Have you never been poor, lived in a poor city or at least worked and been around poor people? My first job was at a Walmart because the city I was born in is poor as fuck. As much as the idea of having to do this might bother you I started my education by working my way through community college as that was as much as I could afford at the time. Where I worked and studied it was amazing how many single moms there were who went to college for free on state assistance and were involved in every social benefit program available. The dumbest ones even lost their access to these programs when it was discovered they lied about the number of children they had to get increased benefits. Fucking lol If you think welfare queens are bigfoot come on down to where I grew up and do fifteen minutes of myth busting
>>1038805 I was homeless for a period of time, and had to use welfare to get myself back up on my feet. While I was waiting in line for stuff, the amount of people who brought their kids in to purposefully tear at their caseworker's heartstrings were disgusting. People were having kids to LITERALLY get more money from the government. They would do whatever it took to get more food stamps and cash, which they would then use to buy iPhones and sneakers and stuff.
I once worked with a woman who had 8 children (and 4 miscarriages). One day, she bought three PS4s and two Nintendo DSs because "her kids deserved it." One week later her car got repossessed, and she cried about it, and got a week's worth of pay for being sad.
I tried working in a soup kitchen because I wanted to help people who used to be homeless like me. I saw people with better shoes than I had and more expensive phones than I had laugh and eat this food we had worked so hard to make for them. The few who ACTUALLY needed the help were laughed at and harassed.
>>1038814 Where is your compassion son? So you worked in a soup kitchen to feel better than them, but when you saw those poor bastards enjoy an ounce of their lives with their new nikis you started praying to Reagan? Shame on you ;)
>>1036238 Putting all its eggs in one economic basket - the auto industry. That is the root cause of all the other causes of Detroit's horrible decline.
Together, the Detroit automakers had a virtual stranglehold on the U.S. market, but there was never any way that was going to continue indefinitely.
Unions can serve a good purpose, but the UAW got too powerful and too intractable, so U.S. automakers couldn't adjust when they needed to.
Because of all those good, unionized, factory jobs, Detroit had one of the lowest education rates of a major city in the country, making it even harder for it to transition when the Big 3 started to falter.
>What doesn't cause crime: The Man The popos White Privilege Racism Skool2PrisonPypelien Guns Republicans White people Jews
Not all black people are criminals, not even a majority, but there is a serious culture problem among many (not all, not even a majority, but still too many) blacks where people grow up not respecting any sort of authority, fetishizing violent and anti-social behavior, rejecting intellectualism, and refusing to take responsibility for one's own lot in life or having any work ethic. Too many black kids just don't WANT to be smart, hard working, law abiding people and so you see whole communities that are stupid, lazy, and full of criminals.
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