Biz, I'm planning to expand my escort agency. I need ideas on how to recruit girls and any other tips.
I have two girls currently working for my agency.
Profits are good and I'm in a country where this is legal.
Also, it wasn't my idea to create an agency, I was approached by one of girls and I had the resources to make it happen.
I'm in a first world country. Doesn't really work.
Nope, Canada. It's a bit of a legal gray area.
do you fuck your girls first op?
i've always dreamt of going full actionfilm-villain and seducing vulnerable 20 year old girls, fucking their brains out, making them emotionally dependant, and then exploiting them by being the abusive bad boy boyfriend that fucks them ocassionally but mostly just pimps them out to gross fat old dudes.
The thing clubs is, it's just an odd venue. If these girls are from the city they probably work as independents.
If they're from a small nearby town or another area, they're more likely to stick around because it's convenient.
With the agency they already have a solid client base built up.
Locals don't have to worry about this, in time they can do all of this. Outsiders don't have the capacity or the know how.
I'm thinking it's best to employ one of my girls to recruit. Every recruit she gets, she'll receive a $1000. If they stay for more than 3 months, another $3000 bonus. Plus a cut of her earnings.
I know it should be cash first and ass last. The girl needs to know what makes for a good session. I don't constantly do it. Just a few times initially.
Back from the gym.
> Its not your job as the pimp. That's the trainer or the studs job.
That's some meme level nonsense.
Sorry anon, that would reveal too much. This business is all about reputation. The better, the more you make. The worse, the less you make.
Also, you need to be cautious of criminal elements. Can't even begin to talk about how many people threaten you.
Can you tell us stories that don't give anything away about yourself?
I've always been fascinated by the way I get hustled at strip clubs. I've never used a prostitute, but I'm fascinated by the underworld. In Montreal they actually walk into the booths when you're getting 'danse contact' and shine a flashlight on your crotch to make sure nothing fun is going on.
If you think you can make me earn enough for making a living there, then I'm okay.
I've a lot of experience in prostitution, I fuck between 40 and 60 prostitutes per year and I'm friend with a lot of them so I know about the hided things of the business.
Where do I begin, it's been a roll coaster. These girls usually have some sort of serious family issue or financial problem. If you treat them well or fill the role they always needed, they will be happy with you.
I got started after one of the escorts I was seeing had a falling out with her agency. She contacts me and we bang. She then tells me what happened and asks if she can crash at my place. I let her. In the morning she explains everything their is about escorting and how agencies function. She didn't have the technical capabilities to peruse it herself and that's how I got involved.
I learned most agencies treat girls like shit. I just treat them a better and operate my business in more suitable manner.
Most clients are in their 40's and married. They develop a relationship with the girls. They become emotionally and physically attached to them. This is one reason girls prefer to work for an agency. They get a degree of separation from their clients. Last thing they want is a creepy dude stalking them.
> In Montreal they actually walk into the booths when you're getting 'danse contact' and shine a flashlight on your crotch to make sure nothing fun is going on.
Damn, I've been to strip club once or twice and it was in Montreal. It was pretty wild.
I've heard from clients and a few others that you can get laid in Montreal strip club. That kinda thing is unheard of anywhere else. But these people might be bs'ing.
No it's true about getting laid in Montreal strip clubs, you go in during the afternoon. You see old guys walking out of booths looking very tired and satisfied with their shirts half unbuttoned
It kind of sounds like you're living in an anime, like Amagi Brilliant Park but with whores. Fucking awesome. The risks must be great though... I am sure you get a lot of thugs trying to muscle you out?
The benefits of having an agency with a solid reputation. The girls get the benefit of becoming established quickly.
4chanescorthookup @ gmail.com
If the girl is hot and fairly fit, probably $3000 a month. Once established easily $5000 per lady.
That's email, I'm probably gonna get spammed.
Damn... that's some Tijuana style fuckery. Are these half decent looking girls? How much do they charge?
I'm surprised people don't care for their privacy or discretion.
> It kind of sounds like you're living in an anime, like Amagi Brilliant Park but with whores. Fucking awesome.
Never really thought of it like that, but yeah it's kinda like that. Everything sorta just fell in my lap. It's crazy to think about.
I didn't even recruit the second girl, she just emailed different agencies and picked mine because it seemed the least sketchy.
> The risks must be great though... I am sure you get a lot of thugs trying to muscle you out?
That's my biggest headache. The girls don't like thugs and don't like working for them. The cool thing is the more established you are the less frequent these events become.
Alright heading to bed, I'll check tomorrow to see if thread is still alive.
Go on Fetlife and trawl the findom/escort groups. Approach girls who mention their 'wishlists' on their profiles. I'm really not into prostitution (if I don't feel attractive I don't get off) so I don't know what is involved, but there are certainly a lot of women with interest in the industry on that site.
Use your girls to recruit/find other girls. NVM, I see you already stated this here: >>1027457
You're on the right track. Do not give them a cut of her earnings. Remember, the girls are still working for you and that wold deincentivize them to get your paper in the long run. You should pay them a fee that's split between the girl first joining the team, and after she has been ether a while OR defer all payments until after she has been there 3 months are a period of time. What countries have easy travel to Canada? Another good source of women is importing them. You pay all upfront costs and they are under contract to you until they earn a specified amount of money. After the contract is fulfilled they can stay on with you, go home, or go freelance. Whatever you do, fuck what you see on shows like Cathouse (Nevada brothel), if you're running a legit agency you can't fuck the girls. Creates a lot of drama and high turnover. I also suggest having a right hand woman or "den mother" or "mamasan", whatever you want to call her, to help manage the girls and deal with the drama that can't help but happen when you have that many women working together.
I disagree on fucking the girls.Maybe fine if you have one or two or a few. Easy to fell just like one big happy family and to give relative equal attention so no one feels favored. But when you are talking 4 or more, it's more headache than it's worth. Maybe fuck your bottom chick/mamasan, and that's it.
>would love to know how a startup generates leads and employees.
If I knew I wouldn't be asking, I just got thrown into the mix and I'm trying to manage the business as best as possible. At this point I've just been lucky.
>What type of marketing do you do?
Ads in the local online classifieds and a website.
So lead gen is this world would be the same as general marketing. If all of your income is online, have you tried SEO optimizing your site?
You can geo target your site to your local area, and you're probably the only agency that would be even remotely optimized. This means when someone searches "escorts Winnepeg" or whatever, you show up first.
Beyond that, you can probably do some ppc for "Hot Bill Cosby in Niagara Falls". If we're being conservative on click to sales being 4%, and your customer lifecycle is over a year, you can probably spend 100s on ppc ads and still get profitable to grow the business.
I obviously don't know anything about Canadian cities, but what I do know about is SEO, SEM and Digital marketing conversion.
That type of thing is what your agency can do to make finding, and ordering your whores the easiest to find and most efficient process.
As an added bonus, if you dominated search results, women looking for agencies would find you first.
search engine optimization. its basically setting up your website so google spiders will see that it is a good website and put it on the top of the list when someone searches for shit you cover.
Does Carrie Moon work for you? I loves me some Carrie Moon.
yes yes but in practice, what does this look like? just spamming the same word everywhere and naming your files 'high quality service location' etc ?
it all sounds so mysterious. specifically what does an SEO dude do?
Surprisingly, we're not low on clients.
That's solid idea. It's untested, so I have no idea what the actual retention rate of girls would be.
I need market this outside my geographic area, to attract someone looking for employment. People from the local area would obviously attempt to work in a local were they're not recognizable.
op another question for you. how do the girls benefit from working under/for you? this is one thing that i don't quite understand. what's keeping them from going their own way? i always thought main reason girls would get pimps were venue (the guy rents the place) and protection (the guy hires thugs to throw out annoying clients and protect thegirls from abuse)
Variety of reasons. No need to maintain two residences, clients feel comfortable dealing with an agency, opposed to seeing someone on there own. People who work on their own flake quite often.
It's multitude of reasons, the primary being reputation, reliability and convenience for both parties.
Not that's just nasty, I'd get your test levels checked if you were attracted to that infertile whore.
This may surprise you but professional escorts aren't meth addicts or womb polluted (whatever the fuck that means).
If you saw them in the supermarket you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from other shoppers.
What your thinking of is called a street walker. A vile creature, best avoided at all costs.
Oh yes anon, sometimes they wear sweatclothes thats desginer but a little dirty, eyes a little red, expensive jewlery,
Sometimes you see them under a bridge 5 years later because they sold the jewlery so pimp can make jail- all the same, whores.
Do you launder your money? You said you make all of your money cash right? How do you manage your expenses
My other question is does anyone you personally know have any idea of this side businesses you run?
I was a lot like you anon.... The only board I used to frequent the most was /fit/ and I can say it's the best board on here.
Start doing things to build your confidence and you'll make it, pal.
I wouldn't recommend seeing and escort and no they won't charge you more. The only reason I saw escorts was to fill time in between gfs.
I've know guys who are addicted to escorts, they ruin their personal lives and just live in an awful false reality. The girls love these clients. They'll use them for every penny. The guys start to think they care for them and spend ridiculous amounts of money trying to keep them happy, thinking eventually the girl will be smitten. They buy them cars, jewelry, purses. These guys are beta to the max.
Better yourself anon. You can do it.
Seo is search engine optimization. Google, bing, and even yahoo have ways to determine what pages the most relevant to any user's search.
The major question is "How do I make my site 'relevant' to the searches?"
The short answer is across three different methods - user retention, content relevance, and site backlinking.
Google and Bing crawl all webpages across the internet to see if "hot cosby ontario" is heavily mentioned in your site. Yahoo cares about what sites mentioning hot carls link to your site.
To optimize user retention, the best sites are designed to be 1) mobile friendly, 2) have the lowest loading time possible, 3) have users on the site clicking more pages than the rest of the competition, or keeping users engaged.
This is to stop have zombie ips sending content clicks to your site.
Content relevance is controlled through two methods. 1) If a certain page mentions in the main readable texts (URL, TItle, Image description, Body text). For instance if I wanted hot cosby's in ontario, the escort site that mentioned in the url Caucksluts.com/ontario/fetishes/hot-cosby would already give a lot of relevance. Then if the page had pictures that linked to functioning pages, video content and body content about hot cosby's in ontario, this would be an optimized page.
2) Because google is not a human (yet), it cannot read pages and know exactly what is going on. A well optimized page for content will have "schema tags" or html cues that alert crawlers to what the content is about. Tossing in "itemprop" tags will really help your site with micro data. Look up Schema.org.
Backlinking is the hardest, it is getting other sites with successful pages to post your site link. This was the first way yahoo was built and it was the core of Google search. The pages need to be worthwhile too so you don't have zombie websites like Nicememe.website including your site.
The best way to do this is have blogs and news sites mention you.
Figuring out your content keywording and what to be relevant for is what makes seo complicated. Sometimes fighting the world for "Naked sluts" just isn't worth it.
If you dominate niche terms, then you become more and more relevant overall.
There are a few more tips to help, geotargeting like registering your business to local directories gives local searches more power, creating and maintaining a blog about positive content helps.
Also sharing your content on major sharing sites like reddit, medium and linkedin are powerful tools. This drives unique users and backlinks, which google cares about.
Then when optimizing isn't getting you to the front, you can pay per click to get noticed. There is a whole art to that as well. We call that SEM, Search Engine Marketing.
But either way, I strongly doubt escort sites are even trying any of this. You could be a real digitally advanced escort service and get more clicks anywhere in canada.
> Do you launder your money? You said you make all of your money cash right? How do you manage your expenses
I actually declare my earnings and pay taxes on them, it's just simpler that way. Can't go into detail exactly how I go about doing it. The girls just sit on the cash, which isn't smart.
Not many expenses to manage, other than buying condoms and lube in bulk.
> My other question is does anyone you personally know have any idea of this side businesses you run?
Nobody knows. Everything is registered through a proxy, so I'm protected a few degrees of separation.
I'm not flashy and I'm doing this so I can retire quickly, fall in love and just live a chill life. The luxury item I've bought, if it can even considered a luxury, is a Hatchback Subaru WRX STI. I plan on driving this thing for life.
I'd be fucked really bad if someone who knew me personally found out. Life would turn upside down.
I'm headed to gym and will check back today or in the morning.
Planning to open a massage parlour literally around the corner where I live.
Anyone got any advice? Going rent a small shop and turn it into a massage place. I will employ one girl and see how it will go from there. I plan on doing Happy endings and body2body massages but not full on sex.
It's illegal but I'm willing to take a risk
Or should I do what OP is doing and attempt to make a escort agency?
On a different machine so I don't know if I wil have the same ID but I'm >>1028088
Fucking them is fine now, but as you hope to expand you will have to designate one as your girlfriend, even the dude on Cathouse did this. Personally I was working with 3 different mamasans/groups of girls so I had one in each group, and even that was drama from time to time.
lol i work the phones for an escort agency ran by uncle, we have 3 girls working for us at the moment (began 2 months ago), we advertise on the 3 biggest escort websites in the country, we only provide outcalls and prices start at 150 pound and hour, an average day we get around 10 clients.
The funny thing is my uncle didnt plan on starting an agency, an ex of his who he is still friends with shares a flat with 2 other girls (all are above 8's) and they propositioned him into doing it, my uncle gets half the cut and i get 100 pound a day for sitting on my couch answering phones and phone the girls driver (whos my cousin) to give out locations for meets, cant complain desu.
>Uncle gets half the cut?!? That's unreal.
I live in a big city with high violent crime, the half cut is mostly for protection purposes, my cousins 6ft3 and built like a brick shithouse, he waits outside in the car when the girls visit the clients, the girls also have loud as fuck panic alarms but so far weve had no problems.
What cut do you get? I have seen 50/50 split as the minimum. See 60-40, 80-20 , 75-25, much more often. But room and board is typically provided as well, and they are under contract for a set value/time. After the contract is fulfilled basically charge for room/board.
>Biz, I'm planning to expand my escort agency. I need ideas on how to recruit girls and any other tips.
Ask the girls to recruit for you, also I do not know what kind of a fellow you are, but being able to enforce is always a good backup if it doesn't work out as planned (the john not the girls). I have a nail studio. It works, I actually do nothing, I just get the money and am there if someone doesn't act in a civilised manner.
Yeah it seems so. I have had a lot of "casual encounters" with craigslist women for free, I wonder if I could just post on there about wanting to open an escort agency and be a manager and hope someone contacts me.
Kind of unrelated to the topic, but I'm 99.5% sure that my next door neighbour is an escort. Time to time I hear her having angry sex at 2am-4am on a weekday, and she's almost always home during daytime. I know her legal name and her LinkedIn is pretty much empty, which confirms she doesn't work 9-5. There's no way you can afford to live in my condo unless you have a cushy professional job, which means she's doing something shady or has a sugar daddy (I live in a posh downtown condo). What's the best way of confirming if she's an escort or not? I live in Toronto if it matters.
Bro I'm in Western Australia and it is legal here. I'm also a serial entrepreneur and quit a savvy business man.
If you share your current knowledge with me, I'm happy to replicate your business here and give you a 10% return on equity as long as you share your experience.
(I'm already running 2 online businesses here)
Are you interested?
running an escort buinsess is not all fun and games , if its legal its taxed out of the ass and regulated by health inspections. the worst part is having a rival mob trying to eliminate the competition , and what happens when the girls try to swindle you out of your buisness? do you go full pimp mode and slap that ho? john doesnt pay and knows kung fu what do you do? you have a gun? youre going to use it? its a nice fantasy of easy money and easy pussy but in the end of the day seems more like a headache
Can confirm, it's not as glamorous as it seems, but it is good money. Smart business practices prevent some issues. Like for new clients get the money up front and have it given to you (if you drove her) or the taxi. That's another thing you should employ your own set of drivers to drive the girls around. That's the Taxi I am referring to. Girls pay the drivers directly. This is only necessary if you have a lot of girls. Otherwise you drive them yourself. I previously mentioned that long term fucking them will fuck your money up. Have you ever noticed how street level pimps can only have a few girls at a time? That's one of the reasons why. >>1031686
Finding girls does not equate to the ability to manage them. Though I do know girls that went full mamasan once their contract was up, butt come to think of it I don't think she ever recruited.
About the mob part, you actually don't see that much. There is never enough Pussy to go around. The closest I'very come to that is girls from different groups beefing. You do have problems with Johns. Like she gets into a room and more than one guy is there, or make a decision to get into a car with a John and takes you to another location and a bunch of guys are waiting and you get gangraped by 13 dudes. Or guys being rough, bruising girls. Girls robbed by Johns. The occasional murder/thrown off the balcony. Less frequent than you think, but it does happen.
They have cruises for college frats, cruises for family, for gays, for singles, for leisure. When are they gonna have cruises for guys who like to punt? Everything is legal in international waters anyway. There are lots of single guys who want to take a holiday close to home but most holiday packages are built around family or couples. Just get a load of hookers on a boat in the Caribbean and I'd say you would have lots of customers.
they have that , a friend of a friend of mine was recruited to work in a swingers cruise. you can bring your wife , gf but most were probably escorts , the really high class ones. i
They're very good looking. Just fucked one this morning, life is good.
Charge to see them is $400/hr
did you write this yourself OP?
Hi! *blush* Ive had a sugar daddy before but never done this, although I know I will be exceptional at it :)
I am truly the kind of girl you hope to meet. You will LOVE my friendly and flirty personality. Im a TINY 4'11 34DD natural & perky, hazel eyes, dirty blonde ombre hair, silky tanned flawless skin!
I am very seductive, sexy, fit & limber, witty and down to earth! I love to please!
I have an upscale, private condo with everything we need!
Text or call me! xoxox
I wish, that's some quality writing.
I only use real pics in my ads and we're upfront about being an agency.
The pics in that ad are fake.
Make a website like kaufmich.com (aka buyme.com german based)
I would really recommend against one these cruises. I know what they are and it's pretty nasty. Unless group fucking is your thing, then yeah, go for it. It's usually old dudes who have problems getting it up and require 30 min blowjobs, in which used up whores try and get them hard.
OP is focusing way too much on getting the girls and not enough on getting the clients. It's like that suggardaddy website that has 10 girls for every guy. There is an abundance of girls willing to fuck for cash but there is not enough guys to go around.
You need to find a way to get connections with wealthy men OP, joining a golf club is a good idea. You could try pitching unrelated business ideas to local venture capitalists and you could show them your appreciation for helping you out by giving them a discount on one of your girls, that way word would spread and your girl might just have a new repeat client.
Think about it OP. A girl would love to work for an agency where the guy running it is super connected to high-status men. Rich guys are always flying in clients for business meetings and they go whoring together, you could be the one organizing these parties.
so I participated in the start of similar business as yours, I come from country that has a lot of tourists, like a lot, younger ones party, get drunk and then want girls, but where to get them? prostitution is illegal there, they get ripped off by skyrocket prices.
Me and my friends started travel agency, we have 2 sectors, normal and young, normal ones are usually older couples or like serious business men, they would either hire a guide to show them the city and everything, or hire a guide to show them restaurants etc and support them in general.
So for younger ones, it was a debate, prostitution is illegal, and I'd say it's semi-legal, if government authorities get money in envelope as we have few sites that advertise "massage" but all girls are wearing bikinis and no one would charge 150 euro per hour for a massage session, other websites just get shut.
so we lurked on these websites, meet some of the sloots, also met some of the sloots in clubs, asked about their pricings and profit, offered them our services, 2 went to work for us full time if we rent them flat, we did, and some others are part time, they still work for their current pimp I assume but come to us when we need them.
this is a fast and good way, therefore slightly dangerous, one pimp came to us like y u steel my sloot nigguh, we are 4 guys in this business, and all big, doing sports since childhood so it's quite safe. still dangerous if they come with knife or a gun.
so its up to you, either go on dating sites and find semi-sloots that look for sponsors, and convince them working for you or go our way and risk?
btw i quit, I just do marketing for them living in different country.
You also have to take care of the girls as you said, it is the key to success, if they feel that they are treated like shit they will scam you, wont respect you.
if you help them, and treat them nice, they will respect you and be loyal and thankful for your help, they are humans too, and no one would like to fuck 3025025 guys in their life, most have good reason to do it.
therefore i do not recommend attracting foreign customers, as they often don't care of what they do, because they know that they will leave next day or something. It is a big problem, since the business is semi-legit and if anyone abuses one of your girls, what can you do? nothing much, so don't go this path, just use the recruitment strategies
You'll make it bruv, keep that the chin up.
Money is only good in big cities, the smaller the local, the shittier the business. I had $400,000 tied up in property necessary to run the business.
Legal = regulated. Look at your local regulations, they'll probably fuck you over bad with approvals and other bs.
Lol no. You've got it backwards, clients are everywhere.
That's some solid business development It's tough to get established and stay established.
Update, one the chicks has left the agency. Not good.
Found love, supposedly. Business has taken a downturn.
Other girl is working on recruiting another one. Candidates so far are too fat or too ugly.