Am I overreacting for calling this guy a shitbag cuz he lets his kids play on someone's grave?
Aslong as they don't go around kicking flowers or taking a piss near graves, I think it's fine that they enjoy themselves on a sunny day when their parents force them to attend to some boring ass church shit. If I were a kid I'd fucking hate to go if my movement was restricted because some old people with a stick up their ass have an opinion on how to behave at a gravyard.
Honestly, the people who rest there would probably be happy that the youth was happy and playing around in the grass rather than staying silent and waiting to get home. Fuck norms
Call him a shit bag for allowing his son to wear the cunt hat.
And no, they shouldn't be allowed to do this shit just because they're children. If I acted that way my parents would have murdered me and buried me there.
Parents need to punish and discipline their fucking children, life is not a god damn zoo and there is a time and a place for horse play and it's not at a god damn cemetery.
you're the one who raises shitty kids to be shitty people, you're the reason we have hipsters and weak willed cunts constantly complaining that their feelings got hurt because they didn't get their way.
I have peed on someone's grave before.
This isn't really that bad.
It's childs play.
It's pretty clear in this thread why children are being raised by shit bag parents
oh no, my daddy loved me too much ;)
Nah, don't have that much time to waste
I could always use a hug, physical contact is always nice.
I know, I'm the fucking worst. I really wish I would just shut my god damn mouth and get the fuck over this petty bullshit. I'm such a twat.
No but but I'm alive and it pisses me off. It's basically a teabag on someone that can't say if they do or don't like it. That's their resting place and no one should think they have the right to do what ever they want on it. Learn some respect, it'll get somewhere.
it seems hypocritical for adults to build over graveyards and indian burial grounds and yet it is an act of the purest disrespect for children to play on or near a grave, but hey, economics and money aren't chlid's play
Anyone else here thinks we need a new plague to thin out the population,more preferably a disease that targets young children
yeah, I'm shocked you didn't get the shit kicked out of you.
The dead are fucking dead, who cares
I'd stab you, seeing as you love them so much might as well kick it with your homies
Of course you did, those people are fucking dead they don't give a shit. Why would you?
you're confused, see normie fags have respect for social norms like "proper behavior at a graveyard" and conform to those norms, i'm arguing FOR the children to be able to play there, which apparently is against societal norms
Yes. The happiness of the younger generation is one of the effects of a country that is being protected. The guys down under would be ecstatic to see that their deaths were not in vain.
No you're not IMO. People don't know how to be parents these days. You don't have to be overbearing or even beat your kids but fuck, do SOMETHING anything to keep them in line. People let their kids run around being annoying and they don't say shit to them, I've seen kids almost get hit by cars because of lack of parenting and then the parents get mad at the drivers. I've seen dogs almost bite kids because their parents failed to tell the kids to not go near a strange dog and then get mad at the owners of the dog. People are fucking stupid and if they can't handle being parents they shouldn't have kids.
some faggots can't deal deal and the balance it bringz with the happiness in life, the children are happy in such a rough time as of a funeral (perhaps) smile , mourn at home with a bottle of hennesey or some shit
I find it beautiful that these kids are doing their thing on somebody's grave. Death is one of the best reasons to celebrate life.
To the innocent youth who see life's sustenance anew, why lay to rest what we can no longer chew?
The dead are dead for a reason. There's no honor or respect present in this situation, for they are dead. Nobody's turning in their grave, for this is their eternal bed. Upon age I exist to decay, for one day we'll all inevitably succumb and join them, the dead.
those kids are respecting the dead, by playing around them.
you and your mopey ass aren't respecting shit by bringing your negativity and abusiveness to their resting place.
you self righteous prick
Wait wait wait, this thread gave me an idea. If graveyards are one of the few places people show respect, and if it's because of the grave stones, we should put them fucking everywhere. All around major cities, inside of convenience stores, everywhere. Then where ever people go, they will be respectful, because of the dead, and it's a resting place.
It'll go like "Hey, don't be a dick, this is a graveyard, people are dead over there, and mourning".
I remember going to funerals a lot because a lot of my mother's side died when I was young. I'd play with my little brother but the rule was just not to step on the markers of the Graves (and obviously not ruin the flowers and other decorations).
agreed. would interface with compooter, and engineer a chimera virus, then break into the nearest virology lab, create it to be airborne, and disperse it, to wipe out generations youngest to oldest so the human birth rate collapses from the middle out, leaving a hole it can't recover from, and reduces the population to a tiny fraction of its size or none at all.
Very much so. They're markers to signify that a human was alive once. As for the bodies or ashes under those stones, they're objects, not people. But I can totally understand the way you feel. I just feel it's healthy to let the past remain in the past. Remember your friends and family for what they were: changing dynamic entities. Don't worship the matter that once gave them form.
This shit makes me wonder about mother nature, Zika is literally the perfect answer to overpopulation.
>Oh medicine is getting better
>Kids with weak immune systems are living
>Virus Makes potential children mentally retarded
With the upcoming olympics its going world wide, surprised the olympic location is not being moved
>implying that isn't a point tho
>which has been made elsewhere in this thread too
>but i disagree with it
>must be bait
>all posts are intended to spark further conversation
>all posts are bait
>fuk i r dum.
I don't want to be pumped full of formaldehyde, because if that happened, none of the nutrients and vitamins that make my body will ever make it into another living being. There would be no chance for the matter that makes up my body to return to the world of the living. It would forever belong to the world of toxic garbage.
So what if your corpse gets to look like you a little longer? It will forever be toxic trash. Fuck embalming.
The real problem is they let them wear those shitty hats
>dubs for truth so...
No such thing as safe zones and trigger warnings outside of kiddie college, you coddled suburbanite yuppies.
Life is going to kick your ass to the curb when you graduate out of that hilarious circus.
i used to actually fuck in a graveyard sometimes with this really freaky girl.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.
once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?
this was the song:
Yeah, though that reminds me of the girl who invented the mushroom suit, a suit comprised of a culture of mushrooms raised on her dead skin cells so that when she dies, they put the suit on her, and the shrooms just devour her entirely.
Neat, but also, still pretty fuckin creepy to see her standing there wearing it.
If I was in your position I wouldn't overreact but I would be like "HEY THAT'S SOMEBODY'S GRAVE. HAVE YOUR KIDS PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE."
This right here. I like acting like a retard on /b/ and IRL, but if you're to stupid to realize that having you or your children fucking around on someone's grave isn't wrong then you probably shouldn't be breeding to begin with.
Grave's are the most narcissistic bullshit. Anyone who needs a stone and a plot of land to memorialize their life for the rest of history is a self absorbed piece of niggershit, and is likely a Christian.
Additionally -- where the fuck else are those kids supposed to play? It's obvious they are too innocent to understand the situation -- let them stay blissful in their ignorance. So, what, they aren't "mature" enough to ascribe the same meaning to a useless and narcissistic stone? They aren't "mature" enough to think that entire plots of land should be sacred for eternity just because some faggots were buried there?
Let me tell you: you walk over the death locations of millions of people every single fucking day. Just because they don't have a little rock on the ground, does that mean they are less deserving of rememberance? When you danced at your prom, you didn't think it was disrespectful to dance over the graves of millions of past lives?
No, you say? Because you're not a fucking retard, you say? Good. Then leave those god damn kids alone and quit bestowing false importance unto a rock pressed into the dirt you fucking self induced schizo.
These are children... chill out. Let them play. Just don't start with teaching them to be afraid of anything which is "death-related"... why the heck are people doing this all the time?
That's probably the most well-rounded, well-meaning, well-thought-out and inclusive replies I've ever seen on 4chan in my life. I don't think you understand what edgy means you deplorable faggot.
traditional values are ignorance and stupidity
not your grave, not yours to tell others what to do on or around it.
>but i was raised to think blah blah blah
fuck your shitty upbringing then, that's yours to sort out, not everyone elses to conform to.
>to be afraid of anything which is "death-related"
I meant everything..
graveyards go out of business all the time, and have to move, exhuming everything buried, and sell off their property
we've got millions of neighborhoods built on burial grounds and entire cities on top of them
nothing is actually sacred, you stupid faggots, we just pretend it is for a moment here & there when it suits the immediate needs of our mythology
Who cares. So long as they aren't disturbing any headstones, flowers or whatever, I don't really see a problem with it. However, if you feel strongly about it I think you're entitled to your reaction, even though not everyone shares your pov or will really care
OP isn't yelling at kids to protect the people that made him. They're dead and rotted into the ground already.
OP is protecting his idea that what kids do 8-12 feet away from an old casket has any bearing on the decayed festering worm-ridden remains of the body of someone who once lived in the past whatsoever. It's his mythology, which he projects as being all of humanitys mythology, that he's protecting.
He is incapable of critically thinking about the subject he's discussing and acting out on. That makes him either an ignoramus or a bad person. Neither is flattering.
considering the number of ways that people of this world, much less animals of this world, treat & show respect for the dead, OP forcing everyone else he sees to conform to his boorish dour demeanor and attitude, is clearly all about his personal mythology, nothing more.
Fuck OP in his ass.
Graves don't matter. The "people" in them don't exist anymore. You want to stop living humans from enjoying their life because there are broken bodies in boxes underground? Only superstitious idiots care if kids play on graves.
Yes, heaven forbid some children have fun and be kids while standing on the ground above where a person was buried. How disrespectful of them to enjoy life with a dead guy right underneath them.
That was sarcasm if you didn't catch it.
Can you explain to me your reasoning for why this pissed you off? I an genuinely interested. If you have a good argument you might change my mind.
I prefer traditional pagan values over your stupid revisionist judeo-catholic guilt and misery. Fuck your official roman empire religion, it collapsed the empire because it sucked balls and everyone could see what a shitshow it was and how badly it needed to be destroyed.
Quit pretending you're a part of it.
>if you have a good argument
read the thread, he doesn't have one, other than >muh upbringing tol me thet death sad so ebberyone else hasta be sad too
>WHYY AREN"T YOU ACTING SAAAD
For one, they're at someone's funeral. Should show respect to whoever is grieving by not having your kids play fucking red rover as someone is being lowered into the ground. Not the kinda memory I'd want for saying goodbye to a loved one.
So a lonely virgin gets mad that some kids are playing on grass..
They probably don't even know there's a body in the ground.
If you came up to me and tried to talk shit I would laugh at you.
Why don't you do something with your life and get a hobby.
You can really tell who does and doesn't have kids by the comments
If a person who's grieving find it disrespectful or upsetting that everybody around them isn't all sad and depressed just because they are, especially children, that person is a self-centered, immature, idiot.
And don't try to tell me I don't know what it's like. I buried my little brother when he was 16 years old.
Expecting everybody around you to conform to however you're feeling is more childish than what those kids were doing.
What does fixing animals or fighting in wars have ANYTHING to do with respecting dead people? You didn't have to be in pearl harbour to respect a random dead person dumb-dumb
the body probably leeched into the soil 30 years ago already and its constituent chemicals have been carried down by rain to the groundwater table & carried off to a drainage ditch already. There's probably not even a body anywhere near them. Just a grassy field with a rock on it.
and who is an adult who still thinks conformity to social norms is as important as they thought it was as an impressionable kid unsure of their place in their social order.
Clinging to outdated stupid bullshit because it's tradition is why kids do not respect their elders. Nor should they. Adults have the luxury of being intellectually lazy and passing the burden of dragging the world forward to the next generation.
We should have all been euthanized at 30, like Logans Run. ...fuck that stupid ending. Keep old fucks around because they're wrinkly and cute? They're full of bad ideas that poison the world.
Cemeteries, graves, whatever, they don't "mean" shit. It's where we bury dead bodies. That's it. There's no certain way you're supposed to act while at one. There's nothing to be "respectful" of. Do you think the fucking rotting corpse buried under that gravestone gives two shits about some kids playing above it? No, because it's a lifeless corpse. It's not a person. And if there is some sort of afterlife and there are souls or ghosts or whatever you believe, why the fuck would they just hang around where their body was buried anyway?
Any way you look at it, you are completely retarded for feeling that way.
Yes you are you fucking dummy.
If I was dead, I would want the place I'm buried to be a place for carefree, innocent happiness than bitchass mourning and sadness. It really wouldn't matter though because I'd be dead, and wouldn't have a conscious mind to give a fuck with.
Quit being a pussy about dumb shit like this, OP. You know for a fact it's your own fear of death that's making you obsess over this brand of bullshit.
Hide life and death from kids
Hide sex too
Hide drugs and alcoholism
Let them discover it and try to rationalize it on their own later.
Excellent results expected.
You should be a parent anon, you'd fit right in with every other white trash idiot breeding a litter of psychotic kids prone to every manner of extremist ideology.
Trust me, the person buried there doesn't give a shit. If the family is the ones complaining, tell them to come to grips with the loss of their loved one and stop taking out their anger on the living. As one anon said, graves are for the living.
but who is me?
why would anyone trust one anonymous voice on the internet, and not all the anonymous voices on the internet?
why would anyone trust anyone on /b?
why would anyone think an argument that relies on having the person you're trying to convince trust you is a good one?
never say the words "trust me" when trying to convince anyone of anything anon.
same here, and we were fundies, of the evanglizing damning type.
i'd forgotten all about that.
the very idea that we celebrated easter at all, with an egg-laying rabbit, & other pagan symbols of fertility, and its entirely pagan name of Eostre, the springtime rebirth fertility celebration... I mean they really expected us to never connect the fuckin dots on this history? Wow.
Im posting from six feet under right now. Some faggot kids are running around on top of me.
It's pissing me the fuck off.
No, this doesn't happen "all the time."
Moving even part of a graveyard is a years long process of collecting and separating bones, and when the graveyard is full, it's closed and maintained by lawn guys. They're very rarely reused, people are weird about that shit.
>I'm a gravedigger
fuckin newfag fuck off cancer REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
That is where SOME law comes from, kid.
And since you're completely unfamiliar with law, I'll let you in on a little secret, law is not absolute, social norms aren't either. They are the opposite of static. Picking a set you like and expecting them to remain constant and everyone everywhere to adopt them because you like them is the behavior of a fucking lunatic. Otherwise you'd still be living in a pile of rocks in the middle east, you fucking ingrate.
Go shoot up an abortion clinic, kid.
Yeah. It's not a person. It's a corpse, it's meat you can't eat that has to be buried so it doesn't traumatize someone. People aren't sacred. Grave markers are just rocks that cost too much.
Better than the thug niggers that scream rap lyrics and smoke pot the whole time. For the most part, kids stay near their parents, as most funerals don't last longer than 10 minutes. The ones that do go off and play are almost always being watched closely and are told to come back if they're any further than about 30 feet from the gravesite.
Let the kids play, seeing adults cry and scream and get overly emotional
(Spanish and black families only, pretty much.) isn't going to help them out at all. They're kids, that part of their brain hasn't developed completely yet.
While you wee just advocating disobedience to social norms, now you're mocking me for supposedly wanting to shoot up an abortion clinic. See dumbness, you fucks can't even think straight, is it the meds they fed you kids?
I didn't say it was easy. I said it happens all the time. Currently there are 47 graveyards in the process of being moved and relocated in my state alone.
Here, professional gravedigger:
This has nothing to do with the topic at hand, why even bring it up? Arguing semantics, or can't come up with reasons why everyone should think and act like you?
I dig graves, I've never had someone get up and tell me that they'd like it to be nice and quiet around their plot. It's pretty quiet through 6 feet of earth, anyway.
Dude he's a gravedigger, what'd you expect, a fucking intelligent conversation?
Be nice to him. All he knows is how to dig holes in the ground. It's like prison punishment, but for an entire lifetime.
It has nothing to do with the dead people's opinions, moron. It's extremely disrespectful to the living relatives to see such disrespect as dancing and playing on their dead relative's graves.
It's unseemly you vile, uncouth, swine. I would expect that from some trailer trash ghetto shitheads, and that's what it looks like to anyone with sense.
The graveyard is not some fucking playground, and the parents should be minding their children.
Anyone who says otherwise is out of touch with reality. Those graves are private property, not a public park. The law is on the side of keeping your kids in check, also. Don't act like a fucking nigger unless you want to be treated like one.
I browsed the Chan long before I started digging graves. I like the people I work with, I have free time and I'm home every day before 4pm, so I can see my wife and kids.
I like my life. Things could be better, but at least I don't lie about my life to strangers on the interwebs.
To the people acting like it doesn't inconvenience anyone, that's complete bullshit. We're not talking about the dead. The dead don't get a say, but the owners and managers of that private property, do. In addition to anyone with self-respect.
That's trespassing, and disturbing the peace. Stupid white trash.
A funeral is no place for that, dumb-ass. Do you go to weddings and talk about the benefits of divorce? Do you go a library to have a loud party?
You people are either mentally ill or literally children without a concept of the world.
The only people who get like this are old Spanish women, and niggers, because they think the spirit of their lost loved one lives on in their grave. It's why they're there all day every day, talking to it, playing music around it, smoking joints and leaving roaches and shots and beers all over their graves.
You want to see disrespect, go to ANY graveyard in a black neighborhood, it'll be full of trash and graffiti. I've seen people go as far as stealing the GRAVE STONE off of someone else's grave and put it on their loved ones grave.
Every example you stated ignores the fact that these are kids, and kids don't know how to deal with death, and even if they've got the knowledge, very rarely do they have the attention span or dedication to be "proper" in a graveyard for as long as the ceremony goes on for. Some of these ceremonies, just in the graveyard, will last upwards of 2 hours. Of just standing there.
The problem is the parents dimwit. Nobody expects a wild primate to do anything but shit itself and scream, but their handlers should be held responsible and either correct their behavior or stop it.
Goddamn, you're seriously this retarded that I have to get this pedantic with you. Your children are nothing to me. Mind them and keep them out of mine and other people's business and you can let them be as stupid as you are whenever you want.
Organic matter is matter which is composed of organic compounds, which don't have to be alive or supporting a living organism to still be organic compounds.
Organic matter simply differentiates it from inorganic matter, such as , say, a chunk of steel slag vs say, lard.
Thats good anon. Im honestly happy for you. But the other anon was trying to point out that its wrong to let kids run around on someones grave like that. If the relatives were around theyd have a right to be pissed. You may be jaded or desensitized because you do this all day long but put yourself in the relatives shoes. If your kids or wife was buried there would you want some little kid to be trampling all over their grave? If you still wouldnt care then ok no harm no foul. But not everyone would react like that so its just simpler and more respectful to the ones still living to keep kids in line when at a graveyard
Yeah, and someone throwing a brick through your window is just target practicing? Get off it, dude, If you want to get technical, that's trespassing and disturbing the peace that the kids are doing, which would place the blame directly on their parents.
Yes, mind your own fucking business not everyone follows the superstitious crap about not walking on graves, it's just some fucking dirt and they are little kids bit harming anything. You are autistic as fuck if you approach a stranger over this. Kill yourself so i can have my kids play on your grave
The whole idea of graves and funerals is fucking retarded. Let the kids play wherever the fuck they want, at this point there isn't a spot on the earth where something dead isn't buried.
*honestly i want it to target mainly blacks and low iq type people, maybe something that is resisted by brain fat, if your smart you have more of that.
Something that attacks melatonin would be great
Welcome to the de-evolution of man, as society is washed over by the likes of this guy and other poorly developed members of society with no sense of context, understanding, intelligence or respect. Even the neanderthals buried and honored their dead. Welcome to espousing a belief that puts you about on par in social intelligence with lemurs and musk rats.
>quit thinking reality is the only way of life, just because others believe in fairies you should respect their beliefs in fairies
Respect is for idiots who restrain themselves from expressing their true thoughts.
>because retard cave people buried and cared about piles of dead flesh you should care about piles of dead flesh
Grow the fuck up, people die, move on. I don't want a funeral when I die, give my body away to whoever and burn the remains. I won't be there to give a shit, I'll be dead. The fact that we bury rotting dead is ridiculous because it taints the soil for years and years.
Vaping is for faggots. It's pointless and there's no reason anyone should own one. If you want one though, go the fuck ahead, I don't need to care about what other people put in their lungs.
And that's your human right to feel that way. Doesn't mean everyone else shares the same sentiment as you. You're not the center of the universe so stop projecting what satisfied your mind onto others.
ITT: Butthurt faggots who think the dead care about what happens to their rotting bones and the intelligent people (not so) gently telling them, "No, sweetie, they're dead. That means they don't exist anymore, you pretentious sensitive little fuckwad."
Quit excusing people for believing in fairytales. I'm not stating opinion, I'm stating fact. When you die, the cells in your body die you become completely lifeless and you rot away.
You dumbfuck, nobody is talking about what the dead want or don't want. Despite whatever hole you're living in or whatever fantasy you entertain, the facts of the world are that those graves are the private property of living people, you goddamned idiot. Their rights are violated, you ignorant dumbass.
A graveyard is not public property.