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>>673292353 The question is, is there a single reason not to? Socialism's is a failed system that has been proven so over and over again throughout history. So who else are you going to vote for? Trump would collectively trigger every SJW in the world if he was elected and he's not a socialist. I'll support that.
>>673294877 socialism has and will fail every time because thats how it is designed. it only works when there is an infinite resource(ie money) to fund it. eventually the rich run out of money and the poor cant support the system
>>673295368 Nonsense. Communists described themselves as socialists routinely. Every single fucking day. They made constant reference to "international socialism" and "socialist allies" (like Bernie Sanders, who honeymooned there and supported the Sandanista communists) and "socialist ideals."
"Democratic socialism" is soft-core communism. All the same people still get fucked, but not by a revolutionary cadre bayoneting them in their beds.
here are some reasons I didn't vote for him >im not an edgy faggot >im not afraid of brown people >im not going to ruin the economy by letting that dumbass deport 11 million people >he has no diplomatic skills and many world leaders have already said they hated him
>>673296792 The Soviet Union wasn't a true Communist state, one the reasons for this is that they had currency "Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production"
>>673296348 You said "no one relevant wants communism in the US." I demonstrated that a senior US official did, in fact, want communism in the US.
Now you're moving the goalposts to pretend you weren't wrong and trying to get me to shut up and go away.
Typical leftist. Kudos.
Also, >implying that strict gun control isn't a communist policy
One of the first things the Bolsheviks and Chinese Communists and Cuban Communists did when they took power was disarm all their old revolutionary comrades so they couldn't fight against the new order.
Jesus Christ, read a book. You can start with a modern history of Russia.
>>673296837 some of the leaders who hate him are because he wont blindly do what they want such as let our military be theres and instead have to invest more heavily into there own taking money away from there social programs plus deporting 11 million wont hurt the economy the way you think, all it will do is open up jobs for the unemployed to take them going back into the workforce generating more tax revenue since if you believe illegals play taxes and companies who pay them off the books actually pay the taxes on them being workers for them then you're an idiot
as for brown people we have banned immigration fro certain parts of the world before, even obama banned iraqis from coming for a short time. all he wants to do is try to halt the progression of radicals from entering the country and having what is happening in parts of europe from happening here
>>673297817 he is still vary arrogant and a dickhead forgive me for sounding like an sjw but his plan on deporting 11 million people is fucking stupid along with his plan on building a wall and making Mexico pay for it (they wont) I lost all hope for him being a good president when he ridiculed jeb
>>673297817 Okay sit down and get ready to read you idiotic faggot. Trump is a complete baboon who will make a mockery of this great nation, and tarnish the diplomatic foundations set before him. Read a book, for a fact read " A day without a mexican" You're just simply blinded by a two faced businessman.
>>673292353 How the fuck does he plan to pay for the costs of deporting millions people? Or the trillions in tax breaks he plans? I like how conservatives used to be the party of fiscal responsibility, but after Bush fucked the budget they just gave up on it
>>673299731 That's the thing about Trump, he constantly contradicts himself. He has said he would let Putin fight ISIS, which I could get behind. But then later, he says he need to kill the families of terrorists. He is appealing to both war hawks and non-interventionists, but you have no idea what he would actually do as president
>>673299122 yes he is an egotistical dick but if he became president then his ego would now be the usa's ego which means he would do everything to ensure it stayed big so he wouldnt go around fucking shit up since then it would hurt him by extension. having an ego is not a bad thing if it means you will do what it takes to not have it get hurt. there is a way to make mexico pay for it and thats by stopping all humanitarian aid sent to them along with other sources completely and they will lose more money than if they paid for the wall. they may not pay for it 100% but they would agree to pay some, if i ventured a guess around 30-40% i agree hitting jeb wasnt nice ut jeb screwed himself in this race, and i lived under him in florida and he was dam good here but he went in assuming he was a bush and would be a sure thing and that it was 8 years ago. >>673299378 the current diplomatic functions have the us losing money and being everyones big stick. they need to be altered and if it takes an asshole to do it then so be it. this "great" nation is already a joke and has been sliding downhill for the past 20 years. as for your book there would be short term issues but to say fine let illegals who drain the system and take advantage ofthings only citizens should stay just because there will be hardships is stupid. that would be like saying to not learn how to walk because you might trip and hurt yourself trump is not the best candidate or an ideal one but as it stands he is the best that is offered. he would rather focus on rebuilding the country how it would benefit its people over how it would benefit the people of other countries.
>>673300872 Well, I don't live in Cuckmerica, so I am entitled by the State to free healthcare - like a CIVILIZED person in a civilized country. So sorry that you Americans have to pay out the ass to your Jew insurance companies just so you can be halfway certain that a minor accident won't fuck you over financially for the rest of your life.
>>673297817 There are currently a lot of jobs open but due to the effort of the job and the minimum payment people choose not to work there. Read about what happened in Alabama once they banned immigrants and there was nobody to pick fruit. It was a mess, the same thing will happen to the economy. Besides Drumpf himself has hired people from other countries to work on his projects, what makes you think he really cares about the average american getting jobs?
>>673301283 >Can you imagine the scale of the cost just to deport them? It's fucking insane.
...why? Operation Wetback deported 1 million in only a year back in the 1950s without bankrupting the country. And once property starts being seized and people are getting kicked out, a bunch will leave on their own.
"It's impossible" is a lazy excuse for status quo.
>>673301283 What is the cost of paying for education, welfare, and jailing of 11+ million illegal immigrants for a lifetime? Seems like a deal if you build a wall, keep them out it's cheaper in the long run.
>>673301975 Him not saying shit is better than Bernie talking about how much he loves getting cucked by niggers and how he is just some old ass gremlin who is trying to connect with the young people of today If you want I'll just vote for Trump for you
>>673301315 idc if Mexico pays for it or not building a wall on the usa and Mexican border s fucking stupid and time consuming. and I don't want to live in a country run by someone like trump. so if he win im moving to Canada or some other English speaking country that's better then the shithole the us is going to be if trump wins.
Ignorant Uneducated Lacking in empathetic intelligence Watches Fox news Insecure and probably deeply disturbed Takes /pol/ "advice" seriously Lack of understanding in general, especially lack of self awareness
These are all reasons to vote for that joke. Too bad the joke isn't funny and is taken seriously
>>673302882 in american history during black history month my professor actually had us trace back our families(if we could) to see if we were slaves or slave owners and found out my family owned another kids family in class. professor told me to give some form of respiration to make amends so i gave him roots and told him now he can learn that slavery has no bearing on modern day since he thinks i should feel sorry for something my ancestors did best trip to the college dean ive ever had
>>673302491 The other candidates at least have some type of political experience. Sanders (even though I'm not voting for him) has at least been supportive of his ideas in the past and you can find evidence of his political participation. Trump has just been a moron that likes to yell whatever comes to his mind. He's got no clear vision of what he wants and how he's gonna get it, he just constantly changes opinions and keeps on commenting that they'll figure it out.
>>673303469 >>673303522 Naw it's just pointless and autistic for anyone of any color to bitch about something that happened 400 years ago Sorry that not everyone enjoys sucking black colored dick as much as you guys>>673303666
>>673301461 >"I give up my basic freedoms for a little financial security" Thats all I can hear. Plus the healthcare doesnt make your utlra liberal country any better. Enjoy your country filled with fags and mentally ill transgender people
>>673303970 Yeah. There's a good chance the Obama era has sent the US into terminal decline. Why not ride the disaster down, Dr. Strangelove style? At least we could kick some illegals the fuck out, first.
>>673292353 >Making lefties buttmad >getting protectionist policies instead of the globalist shit we have now >deporting spics >not getting into war with Assad >following that, making closer ties with Russia instead of trying to antagonize them >the wall is a hilarious meme >destroying the republican party; I've had enough of cuckservatives
that's pretty much it
>>673295151 >>673295368 You're both fucking retarded. To Communists, the transition to Communism (defined as a classless, stateless, moneyless society) is preceded by the transition from a Capitalistic nation to a despotic Socialist nation. From the Communist Manifesto;
>"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible.
>Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.
Governments and revolutionaries that have called themselves Communist are simply trying to bring about Communism by implementing totalitarian Socialism. That's one of the reasons communism is such a stupid fucking ideology, it relies almost entirely on blind faith in this mystical societal transition (the specifics of which are never stated). Marx's supposed inevitable societal transitions have already proven false, as the only nations which have successfully and lastingly transitioned to fully Socialist governments were previously Feudal, not Capitalist.
>>673303970 because they want to beleive it can be saved by the same establishment that ruined it. if it cant then they cant justify voting for the same people over and over who all did what they are bashing trump about now such as change stances on something
I'm also voting for him because it's what everyone is NOT doing and I just assume that anything politically incorrect must be the right thing to do because society now is pretty fucking stupid so GODSPEED MRTRUMP
>>673292353 Vote for him. Niggers and wetback are calling him racist because he will get shit done as a competent white man. Sure he may pass a few laws to benefit the rich but its well worth the trade off of making America great again. Not to bend to the conformity of what is keeping America in a shit hole.
I mean Trump for president isn't going to hurt the middle class like they are hurting themselves with all the useless shit they buy and fork themselves into debt and its not like the poor can get any poorer. It's just that Americans seemed to have developed an inferiority complex with the rich people out the making millions. They feel jealous and entitled to the money that they are making while they do nothing to better themselves. So people are dismissing Trump just because he is a well known business man. Never mind the fact that most politicians are just as wealthy, though they might not openly admit it.
>>673292353 I'm not nominating Trump because I don't want four more years of another nigger who will only increase our debt, who makes rediculous promises that faggot ass retards "who won't vote for another politician" cling to, who has no real appeal other than being a loud mouth wanna be hebrew (just nominate and vote for sanders atleast then you will get the real thing), who will enevably increase out taxes and last but not least can only tell you how great he is and how wonderful he will make everything. Does hope and change ring a bell? Come the fuck on, fuck that faggot.
>>673304520 The conditions of the despotic Socialist nations meant to "entirely revolutionize the mode of production" and "necessitate further inroads upon the old social order"
Again, quoting from the Communist Manifesto
>These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. >Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable: >1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. >2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. >3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. >4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. >5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. >6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. >7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. >8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. >9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. >10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
Note that literally every one of these was put into place by the Bolsheviks in Russia, by Mao's first government in China, in Cuba, etc. They were all just following the Manifesto like a fucking instruction manual, not realizing that in actuality it's essentially just the pseudo-philisophical ramblings of a NEET autist and his friend.
>>673305055 Yeah sure man if u say so But what's worse is that you'd be the one white person that'd argue about how blacks deserve respect from whites and how racist white people are!!! Yeah man you go you're such a hero Trumpy2k16
>>673292353 >tell supporters to punch nignogs in the face >tell supporters he'll pay their legal bills >supporter punches nignog in the face >shrugs on debate and says people are angry >audience cheers >his is an god >he is an invulnerable >he can not be stopped >why not be on the winner side for once?
>>673303685 >>673305769 How is Trump anything like theadore rosavelt? I mean I do agree rosavelt was a bad mother fucker but I do not see and could never imagine Trump physically leading troops into battle nor could I imagine him finishing a campaign spachila after being shot much less going into the wilderness and hunting for his food. Theadore Rosavelt was a true American hero and a great president don't soil his name with trump.
>>673292353 I guess truthfully because he is the master of all trolls. Tell his supporters they are poorly educated. Has them raise their right hands in a Sieg Heil motion for an oath. Half of his supporters are trolls and just like any great troll, it gathers momentum with people who don't understand the ironic or satirical nature of it. When it comes to how far he can push his support or how far he can manipulate the media, he is amazing.
>>673305717 thats not true at all, lol. You know nothing about the settlers/pilgrims and the eventual rebellion they fought or the country they founded. Besides, "Religious diversity" at that time meant Christian outcasts from Europe, especially ones not of the King's religion.
>>673292353 Honestly, I'd vote for him just because every candidate somehow manages to seem worse.
>Sanders is an liberal extremist cuck who takes advice from Al Sharpton >Hilary is corruption incarnate >Cruz is a theocratic authoritarian. Trump somehow manages to seem "better." >conservative on social issues >not overly conservative economically. >not a big part of the Federal establishment, more of an independent kind of guy
>>673307075 No I do not see the resemblance and will refuse to do so. I dont believe trump is anything like him, but go ahead and dismiss me as some reddit meme fag who has no real knolage of history and I will dismiss you as one of the millions who can't see though the one liners of some fuck head calming to be concervative who was up until a few years ago a tree hugging, nigger loving, illigal immigrat hiring, hillary Clinton supporting dick hole
>>673292353 So basically Michelle crashes her car Gets locked in a bunker with Harold and Emmet Harold admits to crashing into her car Harold goes crazy and shoots Emmet in the head Michelle and Harold get into a fight, causing a fire in the bunker, which Michelle locks Harold in to die. Michelle leaves bunker to notice an alien invasion Michelle takes Harolds vehicle to Houston The end That's prettymuch 10 Cloverfield Ln Also it has nothing to do with Cloverfield
Yeah... I don't think the comparison is on how good of a hunter Donald Trump might be in comparison to Roosevelt.
The point is that both are people who think the 2 party system is broken, and are going to do what they can to fix it in their time. Both aren't willing to just pretend like this country is super amazing, when really it isn't. They're willing to say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done to put the USA on top again.
Trump will be the next president, better start getting used to winning. Even if you want to not win, he's not gunna let ya. Even if you beg, please Don, let us lose just one time so we can remember what it's like he'll tell you no and we'll win some more.
>>673299378 Fuck mexicans. We can provide allow guest workers that are only allowed in shifts, whose kids cannot be citizens, and if they have kids while they stay in the US they have to pay for their education at cost, not subsidized by the wider American society.
I don't have a reason to vote for Trump, I have a reason not to vote for any other candidate. There is no point in voting. It is a suggestion box for slaves. You have more chance of winning five lotterys in a week than your vote changing anything.
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